Please attempt watching most of Trailer Park Boys and analyzing it. I would like to see you fine intellectuals actually try and put Juliann, Ricky, and Bubbles in an existential light. lol
@ScreenPrism. Millennials aren't immature. They are just people reacting to the current environment. They are no more or less mature than us gen-Xers, or the boomers before my generation. The main protag acts like any woman in an environment with this kind of social freedom
It was her leaving a more stable life for personal growth - some people would try to save a relationship no matter what, and breaking up with a long term partner and moving in almost in a dorm does look like a step back in life, even tho it also appears like a good choice to me
@Metal Fan that’s definitely not where cheating comes from. If a guy leaves a woman because she won’t let him do whatever he wants to her, then that guy is a braindead, wannabe rapist. His life ending would be beneficial to all
I think a Schmidt character study would make for a great video essay; specifically how he exhibits a different type of masculinity than what is typically seen in media. The charismatic, sex-driven side of him is paired in equal measure with his more effeminate preferences, e.g. his sensitivity, honest emotions, love of "the finer things" like quality shower products and haute cuisine, and of course his open and brotherly affection towards Nick. I feel like in a way, Jess and Schmidt are something of kindred spirits, in that he too embraces this part of himself without ever a second thought, and forcefully rejects the more toxic, outmoded notions of manhood. I believe the show directly addressed this in season 2, episode 8
Definitely! I always loved how scmidt was presented as a sort of barney component but completely catches you by surprise as the show goes on. He is so fearlessly himself. He really grew to be one of my favourite characters ever.
For me, New Girl represents the importance of developing emotional relationships and emotional intelligence, authentic connections with other people OVER professional development or the traditional view of 'growing' up.
New Girl definitely feels to me like a beginning of an era rather than an end. And it doesn’t feel like they are clinging to childish ways, instead, it brings up an acceptance that just because you’re an “adult” doesn’t mean you have to have your shit together and be all serious. You can still be weird, colorful, moody, awkward, goofy, dumb, cute, and dorky. It crushes the looming presence of an expectation that has been pushed on us our entire lives. It gives me hope for my future, with a sense of knowing that, even if I’m not perfect when I’m older, I’ll still be okay, and I can still be happy.
right? its nice to know you can still like kawaii cutesy things well into your 20s and 30s. the show kind of exaggerates it with jess' character but its perhaps helped in normalizing people in their 20s/30s enjoy stuff that's traditionally for teens. like the amount of kpop Stans in their 20s/30s feels like a relatively new phenomenon. a decade ago, you'd probably get judged harshly for decking out your office cubicle in photo cards and cutesy anime memorabilia...but its a norm now. I always see tiktoks of 20/30s showing off their office setup.
i watched this show for the first time as a 21 year old and omg it gives me so much hope for my future despite the world being even more complicated and digital than when the show was airing it teaches so much about life, friendship, love, and self, and i'm so happy that i watched it honestly, no other show made me feel the way "new girl" made me feel and i watched A LOT of them so that definitely says something and your comment described perfectly why i love it so much
That was the first episode I watched. During the super bowl all my friends wife at the time could talk about was new girl. I don’t blame her the was the infamous Denver/Seattle super bowl. Sadly my friends, and his ex wife didn’t have the best marriage, and she disappeared after the divorce which was the right choice to make. She will forever be the reason I got into new girl lol. Sadly my friend got into heroine before his marriage, and became an absent father, the mother is someone else. I had to eventually cut off contact, one of the hardest decisions I had to make. I check up on his daughter with his with his family weekly. Man she looks so much like him, and it kills me inside knowing what he’s missing out on. Thankfully the mom found a good guy who seems to really care about the daughter. Sadly things just aren’t getting better. I know he’ll pull through, and I hope he knows it isn’t him I hate, because I love him like a brother. I just can’t keep seeing him ruin his life. I’ve had my addiction issues so I know he can get through it. I can’t lie though everyday I worry I’ll find out he passed away. Sorry for the rant 2 year old post. Just needed to talk about it.
Friends paved the way.... but I find New Girl to be funnier and less cheesy than Friends... New Girl is immensely underrated 😔😔 they would never do a Friends reunion type thing for New Girl and its sadl
Jess is a realistic take on how the "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" would actually be in real life, as supposed to how a lot of films write the character. While Summer is a male love-interest's depiction of the MPDG - unattainable, cool and quirky in acceptable ways, Jess is how that would play out in real life - someone who is genuinely weird and sometimes "too much" and not always accepted. The message of New Girl shows us that, even if she is not the perfect MPDG we see in films, there is ultimately a lot to gain from that "imperfect" yet unapologetic way of living, and that you do not need to tone your quirks down to be just as desirable to the people who end up really caring about us.
I don’t think you got the point of Summer in 500 Days. She’s meant to be a subversion of the trope. She’s the manic pixie dream girl that doesn’t want the protagonist. She’s a girl living her own life.
I remember watching the first episodes of this show and being surprised for how adorable and funny it was. But everything said in the video makes so much sense. Now is even better for me because it was always there, but I couldn't explained.
Personal development NEVER has to end in life. At any given point - you should change, adapt, and better yourself. That is what makes life exciting and worth living. The goal of bettering yourself doesn't stop in your 30s or ever, as long as you keep changing!
In defense of Zooey Deschanel, her persona manages to both deconstruct and reconstruct the manic pixie girl trope. You can't really fault her character for resembling the trope when that's kind of the point of reconstruction. I think it's important to remember that just because we perceive someone as inauthentic doesn't mean they are.
That's true, the whole point of the manic pixie dream girl is that MPDG is portrayed as awesome to date. But (even though she's model-pretty, kind and relatively together) the show makes the point that Jess might actually be kind of difficult to date and definitely has her own shit going on. Sort of like the end of Breakfast at Tiffany's (the manic pixie dream girl mothership).
Totally agree. As a character, it's shown time and time again that Jess is flawed in many ways, and no other characters see her as faultless (the way Tom saw Summer in 500 Days). In fact, Jess' personality and feminity are often a point of criticism and used against her. I really like that New Girl portrayed Jess' brand of intense feminity as both her strength and her weakness, and though she may grow and improve, she won't change for anyone.
Great show, but I still hate that they pushed the idea that growing up means getting married and/or having kids. There are many who grow up, but do not have or even want either one of those. There are many different ways to grow up, and the media should began to embrace this.
I think I remember reading somewhere that the creators didn't initially intend for everyone to end up with a pairing, but thats just the way it turned out. At least it all felt natural, and I wouldn't say they all "grew up" just because they got married and had kids. Nick and Jess end the show unemployed in fact. They have grown up but are still the same people from the beginning of the show (except Winston, which is a compliment)
Yeah, when neither of those things apply to you and it's constantly pushed as an expectation of 'maturity' it gets old lightning fast. Getting married/having kids is maturity for some people, for others it's completely different things, and it seems off that those are the primary things focused on in regards to maturity in the media.
You "hate" that they chose monogamous commitment and raising children as indicators of growing up? Statistically speaking, how many people do not attempt to do this throughout their life? I guarantee it is a very small minority. Evolutionarily speaking, doing so is one of the most fundamental components of our very humanity. Perhaps the characters could bask in a millennial wonderland for the rest of their lives, where they criticize everything that doesn't fit their exceptionalism? Seems to be working for you just fine....
It kind of makes sense for Cece and Schmidt, she came from an Indian background, even if it didnt feel like it, we know from her first wedding that she embraces the culture, and how traditional it is and she wants her mother to be proud (we know this when she hides that she is with a white guy) Schmidt was the one with the most stable career and said in some episodes how he imagined a family with Cece, so we can say that both had a strong desire for a conventional family. Winston and Abby, im not sure, i feel like they neglected Winston for so long, and it just started to become something when they found the police / Abby plotline, and Nick and Jess totally made sense that they are still figuring stuff out.
I was glad Jess's character quickly settled into a less adorkable and more just dorky character because the mega-cutesy "can't say penis" thing was annoying. After that the critiques of her character feel off because she is usually "the responsible one" in terms of day to day life adulting and arguably the least childish character. Naively optimistic about other people, yes, but juxtaposed with a never-to-be-opened box of decades-old collection notices, aspirations to be a living Axe commercial, and ... Winston, the show doesn't present a, "adorkable manic pixie dream girl" as much as a group of strange cartoonishly immature people. Also all of them are great physical comedians.
I feel like she only took on the responsible character around season 6 and that was a coping mechanism so she didn't have to deal with the struggles in her life. I think the responsible character gets juggled around often. Sometimes it was Schmidt running the loft and yelling for them to be adults, sometimes it was Coach telling them to grow up emotionally. Sometimes Nick even got insightful and laid some knowledge. I do agree that for the most part, they were all really immature though but then again, that's where the extended adolescence comes in.
That's true, "the responsible one" was juggled around (I haven't seen season 6 yet). I don't generally enjoy the dynamic where there's a smart one and the other one has a bucket stuck on his foot, or an immature oafish husband + beautiful motherly wife, so I enjoyed how they shared the immaturity on New Girl.
That's funny, because the "millenial stereotypes" you mentioned remind me of young Baby Boomer stereotypes (in the 60s) and GenX stereotypes (in the 90s). "Kids these days, studying impractical things and exploring life in an open-ended way," complained every older generation ever. BTW backpacking in Cuba sounds so cool! Yeah I think New Girl definitely exaggerated accurate traits that a lot of people that age usually hide or worry about, and can look at and say, "yeah, I can see myself doing that... in private." Or "man, I wish I could still do that." Like, they have the sort of every-man strangeness but just exaggerated, as opposed to Kramer or the cast of 3rd Rock from the Sun, oddballs whom the average audience were meant to observe more than identify with.
I think is two different things, she was a classic "mama hen", caring for everyone and wanting everyone to be their best and looking after them, But that is not the same as being a responsible adult. She did what she could because that's the way she was, so sometimes compared with the others she seems more put together, but she is also a mess. A caring mess, but a mess.
I miss the adorkable era and indie vibes of the early 2010s in general in music TV and stuff im almost leaving my 20s and entering my thirties and i can identify to some forms of that show. I enjoyed it!
Kind of tangential, but I will never make sense of the criticism of 500 Days of Summer. It's explicitly a film about how waiting for a manic pixie dream girl to make your life perfect is a naive, adolescent, idiotic fantasy that you have to grow out of if you're going to become an emotionally mature, fully functional adult who is capable of actually forming a connection with someone. It's not just a deconstruction of the trope. It's the equivalent of pouring kerosene on it and lighting it ablaze.
THANK YOU. It's like people don't realize that the movie is about Tom and the way he sees Summer. We only ever see her from his perspective, and we're drawn in to this idea of her that he kind of creates for himself, only to see how out of touch it was. It actually reminds me of Dickens' Great Expectations in that sense. Different opinions are fine, but people saying it reinforces the idea of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl are straight up misreading the text of the film.
I never like the character of summer, and at the end she sort of looks hypocrite cause she ends up with another guy even though she said she wanted to be alone? 🤔
That's literally what everyone complains about. But she was entitled to do whatever she wanted. Ok, let's say that after dating Tom, she found someone that she really wanted to be with, what was she supposed to do? "Oh sorry, i know we are perfect together, but i told to this other guy, that i wasnt looking for a relationship, so, would you mind to wait a unspecified amount of time, until that guy (the one i have nothing to do with anymore) feels its appropiate for me to want a relationship?) That's the whole point of the movie, Tom was dating this image of a girl, but she wasnt that, she was her own person, and we never get to see her side of the story. It's a literal story of a guy so immature that gets mad at a girl for not wanting to be with him. Don't be that guy.
The video calls out lens-less glasses like they are something Jess wears as part of her quirkiness. This really bugged me for some reason. I would think a channel that talks about movies and TV would have noticed that lens-less glasses is something regularly done in movies and TV, likely to avoid awkward reflections and glare from stage and camera lights. Her glasses sometimes do have lenses and the show has mentioned Jess' need for contacts and glasses. Pay close attention and pretty much every character with glasses in anything is missing the lenses in at least a few scenes. Similarly you can tell that most cups carried by characters are empty by the way the actor holds and moves and drinks with them, doesn't mean the characters are carrying around empty cups just to have something to do with their hands.
Oh my gosh the fact that you guys did it break down with one of my favorite TV series is just phenomenal and so accurate. The fact that young people my age can relate to these character so easily and feel OK with figuring out who they are before taking steps to become an adult. Instead of going from one milestone to another without really taking time for yourself to reflected like you guys pointed out in Mad Men’s Betty Draper video.I definitely agree that this show has become is this generations type of FRIENDS, whether it ages well, I guess we’ll have to find out. Great job ladies as always. Keep it up! 💕☺️
I agree. They are completely different. I see Jess as quirky but Summer as the cool person who is unattainable. Also, the obsession with Summer reminds me of Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind where Jim Carey's character wants to be defined, given purpose by Kate Winslet's character (the quirky girl), and she says to him...I am just another fucked up person--basically, she is a real person with real issues and not a symbol.
They are pretty different but I think what they meant in the video was that they share a lot of superficial similarities and fit into the same sort of archetype.
Eric oung they were both similar in the quirky “manic pixie dream girl”(ugh), way. Beyond that though the character of Summer was way more cynical and realistic. It’s been awhile since I’ve watched the movie, but I think it was her parents divorce that made her not believe in true love or something like that. I did appreciate though that 500 Days of Summer acknowledged that Summer was very perfect looking, with that montage at the beginning. You can give Zooey a weird or quirky personality, but she’s still going to look like a beautiful movie star.
They're like opposite of each other, Jess would like try to change Summer. And hate the fact that Summer doesn't believe in love. Or Summer never acts weird. That's the difference. Summer was the cool girl, Jess was the weirdo. They are both quirky, but in a whooole different way. That's why Summer was considered manic pixie dream girl. Whereas Jess is the complete opposite of the manic pixie dream girl. And unlike Summer, she was hiding nothing, she was an open book all the time.
For sure. Many of them just lived in denial and passed on their issues to others. Midlife crisis is hitting harder for this age group just like quarter life crisis crushes us.
Jess's "adorkableness" never bothered me, in fact I missed it when they toned it down later on. I thought it was really fun and a good contrast to the guys
Ouch. As a millennial entering my thirties soon and still in the extended adolescence phase of shit in certain key ways... I don't want my era to end before I get out it. I want to escape this type of uncertain existence before it becomes hideously unfashionable again. Oh well. The clock was already ticking, but it feels like it's ticking a little faster now.
Same. But I'm really over having roommates and I'm 26. Having to share a bathroom, kitchen area, and living space is getting a bit much. I want space to cook and watch tv in my underwear dammit. It's strange that our parents' generation were either living with a partner or by themselves at this age and we're living with friends and roommates well into our thirties. Obviously, there are financial reasons for this yet we're docked as being immature.
Honestly, there's no genuine similarity between Jess and Summer in any introspective manner. When first meeting Summer, she could almost be considered a nihilist, compared to the naive and literally singing Jess. While, they both are "quirky" in some respects, the way in which they express it is very different and is based on widely different meanings. They are practically polar opposites in character.
i always saw new girl as the friends of my generation, and always preferred it over friends. After watching episodes for an extended period of time, I found myself to feel genuinely happier with the joy it brought to my life. I'm so sad that it's over
Yes. Plus just look at the gay world.... I know lots of guys in the "scene" (In my case Chicago.) who are pushing 50 that still live like they are 23!!
And I hate that "getting their shit together" has to involve marriage, kids, and a certain type of job. There are other ways to lead a fulfilling life.
*It really bums me out that I will never know the infinite joy of what it feels like to carry a child inside of me* -Coach - 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Sure has hell gonna miss this show. One of the best comedies around next to HIMYM, Scrubs and Friends.
Lenseless glasses are pretty much the norm in TV shows because they won't glare with all the studio lights. In the show it's made abundantly clear that Jess has terrible vision and needs glasses/contacts to see.
When the series first came out I was an antisocial kid starting high school. I rewatched the series last summer and freaked it when I realized how much I could relate to it
Man every frame a painting dropped youtube like looong ago. That was content as good as there'll ever be though. If you are into Game of Thrones, Westworld and other randomly chosen stuff, try Alt Shift X.
I love this channel and this video. My only issue is that this video is defining adulthood by being married and having kids. It's not just a personal opinion, but rather a fact that maturity and marriage and family building aren't necessarily connected. In fact all studies show the younger you are when you are married the more likely you are to divorce. Having children younger ages you sooner and shortens your life expectancy. Not to mention the idea as a whole is heteronormative and capitalistic therefore not inclusive so can't generally be applied.
I think they were saying this in the context of what society expects of being a real "adult", which is all those things. Fortunately we're beginning to see people break out of these norms and redefine adulthood.
Very good points! I've always defined adulthood/maturity as knowing how to do your taxes and disapproving when you see young people riding bikes without helmets... but that's not exactly as appealing as marriage and children, and heck I don't even want kids. But yeah, sad to say I've known some married parents who had not yet reached maturity.
Absolutely! Every time marriage and having children was mentioned as milestones of maturity in this video I thought 'Well, I certainly don't want either of those things, and never really have, so where does that leave me?' It's literally just an 'expectation' of society at large, rather than a genuine point of maturity. Hell, it really is super heteronormative and exclusionary as well, whether this was the intention or not. That aside, though, this was a good analysis video overall!
+St. Rhinocéros I dare say that some people I feel rush into marriage and/or parenting to appear to be more adult or just because they have nothing else going on and nerd to feel successful. Those are the ones that have major midlife crisis and when its time to face those decisions after the effect has worn off and evaluate them it comes in a time when it will likely ruin a lot of lives. If children are involved it just creates another person with trauma. I dare say the most adult thing you can do is wait until you really know/love yourself to enter a relationship, regardless of your age.
Tell me about it Tracy! Case in point, my parents got married right out of college. It was the early 70s and that was what people usually did back then.....Flash forward to the 80s, my folks discovered that they had far less in common in their 30s then they did when they were both 21...... So long story short my 5-year-old self was a witness to one hell of an ugly divorce!
I found this video to be pretentious. The narration tries to make the viewer think it's being deep, yet it's very superficial. The comparison between New Girl's Jess and Friends' Rachelle completely ignores that Rachel came from a wealthy/privileged upbringing and Jess most certainly did not. Also, the recession didn't magically stop impacting people, and this video seems to imply that millennials chose to extend their adolescence by not getting married and having kids sooner due to emotional maturity issues. Actually, most millennials who attended college are drowning in student loan debt... notice, I say ARE... they were went the New Girl first aired and they still are. Also, countless major companies have gone bankrupt in recent years with the CEOs and those in power walking away with obscene amounts of money, while the workers are out of jobs and in some cases their pensions have disappeared. The economy is still taking quite a toll on various generations, and millennials have gotten screwed the most because if they did what you're suppose to do and go to college to be an effective part of the work force, they are being crushed by debt. Back when former Vice President Biden went to college, he played $243 to do so... College was 94% cheaper for Biden's generation, home prices were 60% cheaper, rent was 40% cheaper, and he minimum wage had 33% more buying power. Our country has had on going wars for the most of past couple of decades... people are signing up for the military to get college funds or to pay have health insurance, then if they are severely injured in the military, often they are left holding the bag for bills because the V.A. is overwhelmed. I'm now pushing 50 years old and the economy still makes things tough for my family, but we're better off than if we would have come of age in the millennial generation. The whole extending adolescence shtick in this video implies a choice to do so, when the millennials have had much of their choices taken from them by an economy largely screwed up by babyboomers'. Nick while working a full time job doesn't have health insurance to get a lump checked out. Regardless of the ACA, there are large portions of today's population who don't have health insurance because they can't afford it... or if they do have insurance, it still may not cover what is needed to live a healthy life, for example obscenely expensive prescriptions if a health crisis arises. Getting back to "New Girl" specifically, I think the show will hold up well over time due to good writing. I'm sorry it's over, because I think there is more compelling material there. The NG writers know how to write for an ensemble without playing favorites, and they know how to write relationships without mean-spirited tropes like the Ross/Rachel chronic bitching 'we were on a break.' Nick and Jess were not a couple for most of the run of the series, and yet, they never went out of their way to hurt and belittle each other. Though their break up was essentially the result of relationship growing pains, not knowing what comes next when conflict arises, especially since neither had experience in functional romantic relationships, they still displayed an emotional maturity, because while were both broken-hearted over the break up, they talked on the phone to help each other deal with the pain because they were still friends. That's an emotional maturity that surpasses what a lot of people of any generation have, and certainly surpasses Ross and Rachel's periodic tantrums about each other. While this video is not without some merit, I found it incredibly annoying for the above reasons, as well as the use of "Adorkable" in the title, because using adorkable makes people think something cute and amusing will be contained within... This video wasn't cute and amusing, and on the serious angle it took, it was woefully ill informed.
I just want to say - I love that you, not being a part of the millenial generation, are really making an effort to see their perspective. I know a lot of people who are demeaning about millenials and those even younger for their perceived attitude of not growing up quickly enough, yet refuse to see their point of view and options in our society, just because, well, because they are older and not in the same position.
I am amazed. You completely destroyed this video. You really made solid points, and had the courtesy to provide real explanations. RUclips needs more commentators like you; frankly, the world needs more people like you. I hope she ends up reading this comment and questions all her choices
agree... basically what i got from the video is grow the fuck up to what society says you have to be. you don't have fun after college..life is over and its all your fault. this is whythis sort of mentality kills imagination and dreams. and also the video breaking down personalities thta aren't acceptable in soceity shows whats wrong with the world and boxing people. so i guess quirky is just a mental illness of said ' suspended adolecence. thumbs down to this video.
I hate the way that people use the word "Trope" now. The term was created to offer a neutral alternative to the negative word "cliché" but it got usurped by things like "Tropes vs Women" to be negative again. Every story has tropes. Real life even has tropes. They're not something to be avoided. That very concept is absurd.
I’m now approaching the age Jess was when the show started (I think) and I can honestly say that New Girl was the perfect in-your-twenties-but-don’t-know-how-to-grow-up show. It was there when I needed it to be. Now that I’m nearing 30, it does feel like it’s time to say goodbye.
Please, please do gossip girl, possible topic, the message it sends out to young women about gender roles as all the lead characters “end up” in relationships that were in some way abusive. Love your Channel thanks.
Lucy Towey, I watched it and loved it but yes Chuck is utter trash, though he does get better down the line, honestly Nate Archibald was the ONLY decent main character on the show, and even he did some shitty and questionable things.
eric van der woodsen was okay, right? i loved him so much. he did some questionable stuff but nothing like the other characters. also i always thought blair was a good character, she's one of the only main characters who actually admits to everything bad she does and tries to do better? but my memory of the show is a bit faded
yes THANK YOU- especially Chuck and Blair. I don't understand how so many people idolize and obsess over their relationship when it is toxic and abusive as hell
I really love both Screen Prism and Pop Culture Detective. You both provide such interesting outlooks and speak in such soothing voices and talk about things that really ought to be discussed. I love it :)
Finally, "I'm not like other girls" gets old pretty quick. I brush my teeth when I take a shower, but I don't think that gives me personality. I'm just lazy.
@@ayea28 damn. I thought I was a special breed when I discovered that I could get more slurpee into my cup if I turned the rounded lid upside down. I still have so far to go....
Thanks for this! I loved this show. I think that, as with Friends, the extended and close ties between these people also serves as a temporary surrogate and healing period for family structures that might've hindered development. As with every individual, you inherit both strengths and weaknesses from your family dynamic. With New Girl, we can see sometimes the isolated nuclear family has broken apart; or the father figure has abandoned the household; or the family are immigrants with different social norms that children find hard to live up to, given their first generation experience, etc. The friendship, even though seemingly adolescent, is a useful bridge to help the individuals in the group face fears, challenge themselves and eventually grow up. It's a sweet show and overabundance of emotions (even though melodramatic in nature) is what I think made it special.
Thank you, Amanda. What world are the makers of this video living in. People who work at Sam's Club came to work one day to be told their store was closing. Countless other businesses are filing for bankruptcy, paying their owners and stockholders on the way out, but leaving the workers high and dry. ... and signs indicate a new recession or possibly depression is on the horizon soon. They should have stuck with making a fluffy 'adorkable' video about New Girl, because they don't get what's happening with the economy.
I used to love this show. I really need to catch up on it. I appreciate you guys doing videos focusing on female characters and shows. It’s a nice change of pace.
You guys do a fantastic job of decoding TV and film. For filmmakers such as myself it's like going back to film school in the best possible ways. Always learning. Keep it up!
Love this web series of The Take! Love the narrator! Especially the one about Cinderella! Whoever wrote that critique is the kindest soul in the world! Love you!
I'm gonna miss this show in my life. So damn much. I can just always laugh when I watch it. Just like it is with friends for me. Still can't believe it's over
New Girl is one of those shows I've never seen but would probably binge watch the entire series on Netflix if it was put on. In 2011 there were polls about what show would be the most culturally significant and fondly remembered by future generations. In those type of polls most people said The Big Bang Theory, I said The Middle (because it was still fresh back then) but I guess we've all been punked because it was New Girl.
oh, here in Germany New Girl is on Netflix. I saw the first season years ago on TV and was quite annoyed from Jess' character but recently i started to watch the third season via Netflix and i liked it
I don't think millennials need more time than their parents to mature; I think we're just more honest about not being ready. Our parents were expected to marry, pop out babies, and take on boring jobs to support it all whether they were ready for it or not. Millennials be like "uhhhhh. No thanks. Sounds miserable. I'm gonna figure myself out."
Ryan Rodriguez I always saw this show as a bunch of memes loosely tied together with preposterous story lines. I only watched to see Jess and CeCe's outfits.
This was why I didn't watch it in 2011, though I imagine if the show managed to go this long that it must have grown out of this/ found a good balance of it. This video makes me actually want to finally check it out.
Yeah, I saw the clip of Jess saying batmanmobile to Cece( they tried to force that dorkyness and it just, like nobody ever says that shit like ohhh IM So DuMb I CaNnOt PrOnOuNcE WoRdS CoRrEcTlY) What makes it even more ridiculous is that she says it correctly many episodes before......That type of crap is enough to annoy someone into a headache
This was actually an incredibly thoughtful and thorough analysis of new girl. I didn't even realize as I was watching the show, but those are TOTALLY the reasons why the show was so relatable to me, and why it'll always have a place in my heart. Still my favorite show of all time.
I liked the other characters, but Winston was the character that made me LOL more than any other. Well....Coach did too, but he doesn't really count because he was in-&-out of the show a lot. Good job, ladies. 😊❤️
This is one of the best shows i've ever watched tbh. It never got boring, had great characters and amazing character development and an ending i'm pretty sure mostly everyone had hoped for (compared to many other shows who have shitty endings).
I love something like this. Light hearted, touching and interesting. I want something I could watch with friends and family and alone as well, something I could enjoy when I'm bored, I'm happy, I'm sad, something I could watch while eating and not have to worry about missing some important plot point...
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ScreenPrism please do how i met your mom
Please attempt watching most of Trailer Park Boys and analyzing it. I would like to see you fine intellectuals actually try and put Juliann, Ricky, and Bubbles in an existential light. lol
please do insecure..
ScreenPrism nice job.
@ScreenPrism. Millennials aren't immature. They are just people reacting to the current environment. They are no more or less mature than us gen-Xers, or the boomers before my generation.
The main protag acts like any woman in an environment with this kind of social freedom
“Today’s young adults aren’t dealing with the immediate aftermath of a recession”.
Yeah these writers did not see 2020 coming. Here we go again
yeeeshh we can never catch a break
Ha take that Gen z ya turds.
You said it well
@@93BossRoss thanks bobby.
haha its 2022 and we're officially in a recession ✨ ..also most of the gen z I know are conservative
Jess didn't leave a more stable life for personal growth--she caught her boyfriend cheating on her and appropriately left his ass.
It was her leaving a more stable life for personal growth - some people would try to save a relationship no matter what, and breaking up with a long term partner and moving in almost in a dorm does look like a step back in life, even tho it also appears like a good choice to me
@Metal Fan that’s definitely not where cheating comes from.
If a guy leaves a woman because she won’t let him do whatever he wants to her, then that guy is a braindead, wannabe rapist. His life ending would be beneficial to all
I think a Schmidt character study would make for a great video essay; specifically how he exhibits a different type of masculinity than what is typically seen in media. The charismatic, sex-driven side of him is paired in equal measure with his more effeminate preferences, e.g. his sensitivity, honest emotions, love of "the finer things" like quality shower products and haute cuisine, and of course his open and brotherly affection towards Nick. I feel like in a way, Jess and Schmidt are something of kindred spirits, in that he too embraces this part of himself without ever a second thought, and forcefully rejects the more toxic, outmoded notions of manhood. I believe the show directly addressed this in season 2, episode 8
YEEEEES, PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON SCHMIDT! @screenprism
Agreed! Love Schmidt 💘
Yes, agreed!!
Definitely! I always loved how scmidt was presented as a sort of barney component but completely catches you by surprise as the show goes on. He is so fearlessly himself. He really grew to be one of my favourite characters ever.
Which is also why it's really interesting that he's a Republican
For me, New Girl represents the importance of developing emotional relationships and emotional intelligence, authentic connections with other people OVER professional development or the traditional view of 'growing' up.
100% agree
Ya. I wish other people in my life thought this way. My 20s have been really lonely and it seems everyone around me only cares about the rat race.
New Girl definitely feels to me like a beginning of an era rather than an end. And it doesn’t feel like they are clinging to childish ways, instead, it brings up an acceptance that just because you’re an “adult” doesn’t mean you have to have your shit together and be all serious. You can still be weird, colorful, moody, awkward, goofy, dumb, cute, and dorky. It crushes the looming presence of an expectation that has been pushed on us our entire lives. It gives me hope for my future, with a sense of knowing that, even if I’m not perfect when I’m older, I’ll still be okay, and I can still be happy.
greatly put
exactly. perfectly said
And you can still find friends who accept you and go along with your weirdness willingly. This show is perfect for this part of my life tbh.
right? its nice to know you can still like kawaii cutesy things well into your 20s and 30s. the show kind of exaggerates it with jess' character but its perhaps helped in normalizing people in their 20s/30s enjoy stuff that's traditionally for teens. like the amount of kpop Stans in their 20s/30s feels like a relatively new phenomenon. a decade ago, you'd probably get judged harshly for decking out your office cubicle in photo cards and cutesy anime memorabilia...but its a norm now. I always see tiktoks of 20/30s showing off their office setup.
i watched this show for the first time as a 21 year old and omg it gives me so much hope for my future despite the world being even more complicated and digital than when the show was airing
it teaches so much about life, friendship, love, and self, and i'm so happy that i watched it
honestly, no other show made me feel the way "new girl" made me feel and i watched A LOT of them so that definitely says something
and your comment described perfectly why i love it so much
New Girl had Prince in it...enough said
He was in it cause he actually liked and watched the show and they found out about it and invited him to guest star.
The Mel Experience Prince makes everything better🙏🏼
Not to forget Gordon ramsay aswell
Which is why it's the only episode I ever saw
That was the first episode I watched. During the super bowl all my friends wife at the time could talk about was new girl. I don’t blame her the was the infamous Denver/Seattle super bowl. Sadly my friends, and his ex wife didn’t have the best marriage, and she disappeared after the divorce which was the right choice to make. She will forever be the reason I got into new girl lol. Sadly my friend got into heroine before his marriage, and became an absent father, the mother is someone else. I had to eventually cut off contact, one of the hardest decisions I had to make. I check up on his daughter with his with his family weekly. Man she looks so much like him, and it kills me inside knowing what he’s missing out on. Thankfully the mom found a good guy who seems to really care about the daughter. Sadly things just aren’t getting better. I know he’ll pull through, and I hope he knows it isn’t him I hate, because I love him like a brother. I just can’t keep seeing him ruin his life. I’ve had my addiction issues so I know he can get through it. I can’t lie though everyday I worry I’ll find out he passed away. Sorry for the rant 2 year old post. Just needed to talk about it.
"I'm a bartender who's 30 years old. I don't have health insurance" 😂😂
This was me post-college
Love your channel!
New Girl is hugely underrated. It has one of the best sitcom-casts of all time.
Namu Situ *through tears* YOURE DULL AND FAKE *snotty inhale*
Friends paved the way.... but I find New Girl to be funnier and less cheesy than Friends... New Girl is immensely underrated 😔😔 they would never do a Friends reunion type thing for New Girl and its sadl
Friends is super overrated. Not funny and flat and overacted
the word "adorkable" makes me want to die
What’s the hold up?
i texted Death, they didnt get back to me
the idea that "adorkable" is tied to the word "hipster" is killing me. i can sing and dance without glasses, thank you very much.
Same
What's wrong with the words Adorable Dork?
Jess is a realistic take on how the "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" would actually be in real life, as supposed to how a lot of films write the character. While Summer is a male love-interest's depiction of the MPDG - unattainable, cool and quirky in acceptable ways, Jess is how that would play out in real life - someone who is genuinely weird and sometimes "too much" and not always accepted. The message of New Girl shows us that, even if she is not the perfect MPDG we see in films, there is ultimately a lot to gain from that "imperfect" yet unapologetic way of living, and that you do not need to tone your quirks down to be just as desirable to the people who end up really caring about us.
I don’t think you got the point of Summer in 500 Days. She’s meant to be a subversion of the trope. She’s the manic pixie dream girl that doesn’t want the protagonist. She’s a girl living her own life.
I remember watching the first episodes of this show and being surprised for how adorable and funny it was.
But everything said in the video makes so much sense. Now is even better for me because it was always there, but I couldn't explained.
I remember watching the first episode and not being able to believe how bad the show was. Terrible terrible show.
Personal development NEVER has to end in life. At any given point - you should change, adapt, and better yourself. That is what makes life exciting and worth living. The goal of bettering yourself doesn't stop in your 30s or ever, as long as you keep changing!
For The Love Of TOTALLY agree!!!
For the Love of BRAVO!! Settling down & having kids is not a hand off point to the next generation, no matter what the media wants you to believe
In defense of Zooey Deschanel, her persona manages to both deconstruct and reconstruct the manic pixie girl trope. You can't really fault her character for resembling the trope when that's kind of the point of reconstruction. I think it's important to remember that just because we perceive someone as inauthentic doesn't mean they are.
That's true, the whole point of the manic pixie dream girl is that MPDG is portrayed as awesome to date. But (even though she's model-pretty, kind and relatively together) the show makes the point that Jess might actually be kind of difficult to date and definitely has her own shit going on. Sort of like the end of Breakfast at Tiffany's (the manic pixie dream girl mothership).
Totally agree. As a character, it's shown time and time again that Jess is flawed in many ways, and no other characters see her as faultless (the way Tom saw Summer in 500 Days). In fact, Jess' personality and feminity are often a point of criticism and used against her. I really like that New Girl portrayed Jess' brand of intense feminity as both her strength and her weakness, and though she may grow and improve, she won't change for anyone.
People who are too treacly nice still disturb me
Great show, but I still hate that they pushed the idea that growing up means getting married and/or having kids. There are many who grow up, but do not have or even want either one of those. There are many different ways to grow up, and the media should began to embrace this.
I think I remember reading somewhere that the creators didn't initially intend for everyone to end up with a pairing, but thats just the way it turned out. At least it all felt natural, and I wouldn't say they all "grew up" just because they got married and had kids. Nick and Jess end the show unemployed in fact. They have grown up but are still the same people from the beginning of the show (except Winston, which is a compliment)
Yeah, when neither of those things apply to you and it's constantly pushed as an expectation of 'maturity' it gets old lightning fast. Getting married/having kids is maturity for some people, for others it's completely different things, and it seems off that those are the primary things focused on in regards to maturity in the media.
I mean, there is also the lifelong joy and purpose aspect of marriage and children.
You "hate" that they chose monogamous commitment and raising children as indicators of growing up? Statistically speaking, how many people do not attempt to do this throughout their life? I guarantee it is a very small minority. Evolutionarily speaking, doing so is one of the most fundamental components of our very humanity. Perhaps the characters could bask in a millennial wonderland for the rest of their lives, where they criticize everything that doesn't fit their exceptionalism? Seems to be working for you just fine....
It kind of makes sense for Cece and Schmidt, she came from an Indian background, even if it didnt feel like it, we know from her first wedding that she embraces the culture, and how traditional it is and she wants her mother to be proud (we know this when she hides that she is with a white guy) Schmidt was the one with the most stable career and said in some episodes how he imagined a family with Cece, so we can say that both had a strong desire for a conventional family. Winston and Abby, im not sure, i feel like they neglected Winston for so long, and it just started to become something when they found the police / Abby plotline, and Nick and Jess totally made sense that they are still figuring stuff out.
11:23 "Today's young people aren't dealing with the immediate aftermath of a recession"
*Coronavirus has entered the chat.*
Yup
I was glad Jess's character quickly settled into a less adorkable and more just dorky character because the mega-cutesy "can't say penis" thing was annoying. After that the critiques of her character feel off because she is usually "the responsible one" in terms of day to day life adulting and arguably the least childish character. Naively optimistic about other people, yes, but juxtaposed with a never-to-be-opened box of decades-old collection notices, aspirations to be a living Axe commercial, and ... Winston, the show doesn't present a, "adorkable manic pixie dream girl" as much as a group of strange cartoonishly immature people. Also all of them are great physical comedians.
Oh yeah I forgot-- nice video!
I feel like she only took on the responsible character around season 6 and that was a coping mechanism so she didn't have to deal with the struggles in her life. I think the responsible character gets juggled around often. Sometimes it was Schmidt running the loft and yelling for them to be adults, sometimes it was Coach telling them to grow up emotionally. Sometimes Nick even got insightful and laid some knowledge. I do agree that for the most part, they were all really immature though but then again, that's where the extended adolescence comes in.
That's true, "the responsible one" was juggled around (I haven't seen season 6 yet). I don't generally enjoy the dynamic where there's a smart one and the other one has a bucket stuck on his foot, or an immature oafish husband + beautiful motherly wife, so I enjoyed how they shared the immaturity on New Girl.
That's funny, because the "millenial stereotypes" you mentioned remind me of young Baby Boomer stereotypes (in the 60s) and GenX stereotypes (in the 90s). "Kids these days, studying impractical things and exploring life in an open-ended way," complained every older generation ever. BTW backpacking in Cuba sounds so cool!
Yeah I think New Girl definitely exaggerated accurate traits that a lot of people that age usually hide or worry about, and can look at and say, "yeah, I can see myself doing that... in private." Or "man, I wish I could still do that." Like, they have the sort of every-man strangeness but just exaggerated, as opposed to Kramer or the cast of 3rd Rock from the Sun, oddballs whom the average audience were meant to observe more than identify with.
I think is two different things, she was a classic "mama hen", caring for everyone and wanting everyone to be their best and looking after them, But that is not the same as being a responsible adult. She did what she could because that's the way she was, so sometimes compared with the others she seems more put together, but she is also a mess. A caring mess, but a mess.
I miss the adorkable era and indie vibes of the early 2010s in general in music TV and stuff im almost leaving my 20s and entering my thirties and i can identify to some forms of that show. I enjoyed it!
"Extended adolescence can't last forever." Challenge accepted!
Kind of tangential, but I will never make sense of the criticism of 500 Days of Summer. It's explicitly a film about how waiting for a manic pixie dream girl to make your life perfect is a naive, adolescent, idiotic fantasy that you have to grow out of if you're going to become an emotionally mature, fully functional adult who is capable of actually forming a connection with someone. It's not just a deconstruction of the trope. It's the equivalent of pouring kerosene on it and lighting it ablaze.
Totally agree!
THANK YOU. It's like people don't realize that the movie is about Tom and the way he sees Summer. We only ever see her from his perspective, and we're drawn in to this idea of her that he kind of creates for himself, only to see how out of touch it was. It actually reminds me of Dickens' Great Expectations in that sense. Different opinions are fine, but people saying it reinforces the idea of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl are straight up misreading the text of the film.
AGREED. People who think that the movie is somehow reinforcing the MPDG thing literally missed the entire point of the movie.
I never like the character of summer, and at the end she sort of looks hypocrite cause she ends up with another guy even though she said she wanted to be alone? 🤔
That's literally what everyone complains about. But she was entitled to do whatever she wanted. Ok, let's say that after dating Tom, she found someone that she really wanted to be with, what was she supposed to do? "Oh sorry, i know we are perfect together, but i told to this other guy, that i wasnt looking for a relationship, so, would you mind to wait a unspecified amount of time, until that guy (the one i have nothing to do with anymore) feels its appropiate for me to want a relationship?) That's the whole point of the movie, Tom was dating this image of a girl, but she wasnt that, she was her own person, and we never get to see her side of the story. It's a literal story of a guy so immature that gets mad at a girl for not wanting to be with him. Don't be that guy.
The video calls out lens-less glasses like they are something Jess wears as part of her quirkiness. This really bugged me for some reason. I would think a channel that talks about movies and TV would have noticed that lens-less glasses is something regularly done in movies and TV, likely to avoid awkward reflections and glare from stage and camera lights. Her glasses sometimes do have lenses and the show has mentioned Jess' need for contacts and glasses. Pay close attention and pretty much every character with glasses in anything is missing the lenses in at least a few scenes. Similarly you can tell that most cups carried by characters are empty by the way the actor holds and moves and drinks with them, doesn't mean the characters are carrying around empty cups just to have something to do with their hands.
Oh my gosh the fact that you guys did it break down with one of my favorite TV series is just phenomenal and so accurate. The fact that young people my age can relate to these character so easily and feel OK with figuring out who they are before taking steps to become an adult. Instead of going from one milestone to another without really taking time for yourself to reflected like you guys pointed out in Mad Men’s Betty Draper video.I definitely agree that this show has become is this generations type of FRIENDS, whether it ages well, I guess we’ll have to find out. Great job ladies as always. Keep it up! 💕☺️
I think jess and 500 days of summer character are very different
They’re both “quirky” ?
I agree. They are completely different. I see Jess as quirky but Summer as the cool person who is unattainable. Also, the obsession with Summer reminds me of Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind where Jim Carey's character wants to be defined, given purpose by Kate Winslet's character (the quirky girl), and she says to him...I am just another fucked up person--basically, she is a real person with real issues and not a symbol.
They are pretty different but I think what they meant in the video was that they share a lot of superficial similarities and fit into the same sort of archetype.
Eric oung they were both similar in the quirky “manic pixie dream girl”(ugh), way. Beyond that though the character of Summer was way more cynical and realistic. It’s been awhile since I’ve watched the movie, but I think it was her parents divorce that made her not believe in true love or something like that. I did appreciate though that 500 Days of Summer acknowledged that Summer was very perfect looking, with that montage at the beginning. You can give Zooey a weird or quirky personality, but she’s still going to look like a beautiful movie star.
They're like opposite of each other, Jess would like try to change Summer. And hate the fact that Summer doesn't believe in love. Or Summer never acts weird. That's the difference. Summer was the cool girl, Jess was the weirdo. They are both quirky, but in a whooole different way. That's why Summer was considered manic pixie dream girl. Whereas Jess is the complete opposite of the manic pixie dream girl. And unlike Summer, she was hiding nothing, she was an open book all the time.
It’s not that before generations “grew up” or “emotionally matured” quicker... they just pretended and it obviously catches up to them.
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For sure. Many of them just lived in denial and passed on their issues to others. Midlife crisis is hitting harder for this age group just like quarter life crisis crushes us.
I always wondered if she actually had lenses in her glasses lmao
me too :D
Miguel Quinto I suppose they did it for the sake of the show, cause otherwise the light of cameras would reflect.
Ella X I think her glasses did have lenses because I remember she had the same prescription as her 3rd cousin
Ella X She didn’t, and it made me hate her so much.
You can actually see she has lenses in a clip in this video: when she’s on the car going through the car wash her lenses are foggy.
Jess's "adorkableness" never bothered me, in fact I missed it when they toned it down later on. I thought it was really fun and a good contrast to the guys
I agree! I haven't seen many characters like Jess and it was a nice change.
Same! I was sad they blanded her up.
Agreed! When they tried to get rid of her dorkiness she turned a bit boring/bland and her mistakes were less funny/cute and more just annoying
I'll never get the hate her character got for her behavior just because she was different to the girls that are usually seen on tv
Yeah she really reminded me of myself
Ouch. As a millennial entering my thirties soon and still in the extended adolescence phase of shit in certain key ways... I don't want my era to end before I get out it. I want to escape this type of uncertain existence before it becomes hideously unfashionable again. Oh well. The clock was already ticking, but it feels like it's ticking a little faster now.
Marcus Gerber Same 🙁
Don't worry, there are still plenty of shows that still portray extended adolescence. Insecure is a good one.
Same. But I'm really over having roommates and I'm 26. Having to share a bathroom, kitchen area, and living space is getting a bit much. I want space to cook and watch tv in my underwear dammit. It's strange that our parents' generation were either living with a partner or by themselves at this age and we're living with friends and roommates well into our thirties. Obviously, there are financial reasons for this yet we're docked as being immature.
Same 😢 27 and sort of freaking out.
You aren’t alone. I’m 24 and feel like I’ve just been running in place for the last few years. That feeling of being in limbo is a bitch dude.
Honestly, there's no genuine similarity between Jess and Summer in any introspective manner. When first meeting Summer, she could almost be considered a nihilist, compared to the naive and literally singing Jess. While, they both are "quirky" in some respects, the way in which they express it is very different and is based on widely different meanings.
They are practically polar opposites in character.
i always saw new girl as the friends of my generation, and always preferred it over friends. After watching episodes for an extended period of time, I found myself to feel genuinely happier with the joy it brought to my life. I'm so sad that it's over
I don't like the notion that it's inevitable that people will get their shit together, or that someone's lot in life is because of "maturing slowly"
Yes. Plus just look at the gay world.... I know lots of guys in the "scene" (In my case Chicago.) who are pushing 50 that still live like they are 23!!
And I hate that "getting their shit together" has to involve marriage, kids, and a certain type of job. There are other ways to lead a fulfilling life.
I agree. If there were more jobs and more income equality they wouldn't be stuck in low waged jobs.
As far as I see it if you make enough money to pay your rent/mortgage, you have it together!
Yeah, that and assuming everyone in "post-adulthood period" went to and finished college. They didn't mention that's for a very specific audience
*It really bums me out that I will never know the infinite joy of what it feels like to carry a child inside of me*
-Coach -
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Sure has hell gonna miss this show. One of the best comedies around next to HIMYM, Scrubs and Friends.
Lenseless glasses are pretty much the norm in TV shows because they won't glare with all the studio lights. In the show it's made abundantly clear that Jess has terrible vision and needs glasses/contacts to see.
When the series first came out I was an antisocial kid starting high school. I rewatched the series last summer and freaked it when I realized how much I could relate to it
Me
There isn’t a RUclips channel that breaks things down as well as this channel does. Please keep it going 👏🏽
Jaime Chavez if you like this you'd probably like the channels 'every frame a painting', 'lessons from the screenplay', and maybe Nerdwriter1.
Pop Culture Detective is another channel that does amazing breakdowns. You should check it out.
Man every frame a painting dropped youtube like looong ago. That was content as good as there'll ever be though.
If you are into Game of Thrones, Westworld and other randomly chosen stuff, try Alt Shift X.
I love this channel and this video. My only issue is that this video is defining adulthood by being married and having kids. It's not just a personal opinion, but rather a fact that maturity and marriage and family building aren't necessarily connected. In fact all studies show the younger you are when you are married the more likely you are to divorce. Having children younger ages you sooner and shortens your life expectancy. Not to mention the idea as a whole is heteronormative and capitalistic therefore not inclusive so can't generally be applied.
I think they were saying this in the context of what society expects of being a real "adult", which is all those things. Fortunately we're beginning to see people break out of these norms and redefine adulthood.
Very good points! I've always defined adulthood/maturity as knowing how to do your taxes and disapproving when you see young people riding bikes without helmets... but that's not exactly as appealing as marriage and children, and heck I don't even want kids. But yeah, sad to say I've known some married parents who had not yet reached maturity.
Absolutely! Every time marriage and having children was mentioned as milestones of maturity in this video I thought 'Well, I certainly don't want either of those things, and never really have, so where does that leave me?' It's literally just an 'expectation' of society at large, rather than a genuine point of maturity.
Hell, it really is super heteronormative and exclusionary as well, whether this was the intention or not. That aside, though, this was a good analysis video overall!
+St. Rhinocéros I dare say that some people I feel rush into marriage and/or parenting to appear to be more adult or just because they have nothing else going on and nerd to feel successful. Those are the ones that have major midlife crisis and when its time to face those decisions after the effect has worn off and evaluate them it comes in a time when it will likely ruin a lot of lives. If children are involved it just creates another person with trauma. I dare say the most adult thing you can do is wait until you really know/love yourself to enter a relationship, regardless of your age.
Tell me about it Tracy! Case in point, my parents got married right out of college. It was the early 70s and that was what people usually did back then.....Flash forward to the 80s, my folks discovered that they had far less in common in their 30s then they did when they were both 21...... So long story short my 5-year-old self was a witness to one hell of an ugly divorce!
I'm gonna miss Nick Miller so MUCH! 😭😭😭😭😭😭
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I can't explain with words how much I love New Girl
I found this video to be pretentious. The narration tries to make the viewer think it's being deep, yet it's very superficial. The comparison between New Girl's Jess and Friends' Rachelle completely ignores that Rachel came from a wealthy/privileged upbringing and Jess most certainly did not. Also, the recession didn't magically stop impacting people, and this video seems to imply that millennials chose to extend their adolescence by not getting married and having kids sooner due to emotional maturity issues. Actually, most millennials who attended college are drowning in student loan debt... notice, I say ARE... they were went the New Girl first aired and they still are. Also, countless major companies have gone bankrupt in recent years with the CEOs and those in power walking away with obscene amounts of money, while the workers are out of jobs and in some cases their pensions have disappeared. The economy is still taking quite a toll on various generations, and millennials have gotten screwed the most because if they did what you're suppose to do and go to college to be an effective part of the work force, they are being crushed by debt. Back when former Vice President Biden went to college, he played $243 to do so... College was 94% cheaper for Biden's generation, home prices were 60% cheaper, rent was 40% cheaper, and he minimum wage had 33% more buying power. Our country has had on going wars for the most of past couple of decades... people are signing up for the military to get college funds or to pay have health insurance, then if they are severely injured in the military, often they are left holding the bag for bills because the V.A. is overwhelmed. I'm now pushing 50 years old and the economy still makes things tough for my family, but we're better off than if we would have come of age in the millennial generation. The whole extending adolescence shtick in this video implies a choice to do so, when the millennials have had much of their choices taken from them by an economy largely screwed up by babyboomers'. Nick while working a full time job doesn't have health insurance to get a lump checked out. Regardless of the ACA, there are large portions of today's population who don't have health insurance because they can't afford it... or if they do have insurance, it still may not cover what is needed to live a healthy life, for example obscenely expensive prescriptions if a health crisis arises.
Getting back to "New Girl" specifically, I think the show will hold up well over time due to good writing. I'm sorry it's over, because I think there is more compelling material there. The NG writers know how to write for an ensemble without playing favorites, and they know how to write relationships without mean-spirited tropes like the Ross/Rachel chronic bitching 'we were on a break.' Nick and Jess were not a couple for most of the run of the series, and yet, they never went out of their way to hurt and belittle each other. Though their break up was essentially the result of relationship growing pains, not knowing what comes next when conflict arises, especially since neither had experience in functional romantic relationships, they still displayed an emotional maturity, because while were both broken-hearted over the break up, they talked on the phone to help each other deal with the pain because they were still friends. That's an emotional maturity that surpasses what a lot of people of any generation have, and certainly surpasses Ross and Rachel's periodic tantrums about each other.
While this video is not without some merit, I found it incredibly annoying for the above reasons, as well as the use of "Adorkable" in the title, because using adorkable makes people think something cute and amusing will be contained within... This video wasn't cute and amusing, and on the serious angle it took, it was woefully ill informed.
I just want to say - I love that you, not being a part of the millenial generation, are really making an effort to see their perspective. I know a lot of people who are demeaning about millenials and those even younger for their perceived attitude of not growing up quickly enough, yet refuse to see their point of view and options in our society, just because, well, because they are older and not in the same position.
I am amazed. You completely destroyed this video. You really made solid points, and had the courtesy to provide real explanations. RUclips needs more commentators like you; frankly, the world needs more people like you. I hope she ends up reading this comment and questions all her choices
agree... basically what i got from the video is grow the fuck up to what society says you have to be. you don't have fun after college..life is over and its all your fault. this is whythis sort of mentality kills imagination and dreams. and also the video breaking down personalities thta aren't acceptable in soceity shows whats wrong with the world and boxing people. so i guess quirky is just a mental illness of said ' suspended adolecence. thumbs down to this video.
Smart guy !
Yes to all of this. I couldn't pinpoint why I couldn't fully get on board with this analysis, but this is spot on.
@11:23
"Today's young people aren't dealing with the immediate aftermath of recession"
Well this phrase is a bit ironic now.
“Today’s young people aren’t dealing with the immediate aftermath of a recession.”
Oh no, this is much worse
Me, watching this is March 2020, while being in quarantine, knowing full well that another recession is beginning.
I hate the way that people use the word "Trope" now.
The term was created to offer a neutral alternative to the negative word "cliché" but it got usurped by things like "Tropes vs Women" to be negative again. Every story has tropes. Real life even has tropes. They're not something to be avoided. That very concept is absurd.
I’m now approaching the age Jess was when the show started (I think) and I can honestly say that New Girl was the perfect in-your-twenties-but-don’t-know-how-to-grow-up show. It was there when I needed it to be. Now that I’m nearing 30, it does feel like it’s time to say goodbye.
Narrator: this generation isn't growing up immediately after a recession
Coronavirus: Hold my beer, we can make that happen
I want to just become an adult now... and finally be able to support you guys on patreon because these little videos are gems! Thank you for these!
I felt like “New Girl” could’ve went longer then it did and this makes me sad😔I honestly felt like I lost my friends when it ended🥺😢
Schmitd will always have a special place in my heart
Please, please do gossip girl, possible topic, the message it sends out to young women about gender roles as all the lead characters “end up” in relationships that were in some way abusive. Love your Channel thanks.
Good idea!! I want to hear them TRASH on Dan Humphrey
Lucy Towey, I watched it and loved it but yes Chuck is utter trash, though he does get better down the line, honestly Nate Archibald was the ONLY decent main character on the show, and even he did some shitty and questionable things.
eric van der woodsen was okay, right? i loved him so much. he did some questionable stuff but nothing like the other characters. also i always thought blair was a good character, she's one of the only main characters who actually admits to everything bad she does and tries to do better? but my memory of the show is a bit faded
yes THANK YOU- especially Chuck and Blair. I don't understand how so many people idolize and obsess over their relationship when it is toxic and abusive as hell
I don´t know. the characters of New Girls seem pretty realistic to me.
I really love both Screen Prism and Pop Culture Detective. You both provide such interesting outlooks and speak in such soothing voices and talk about things that really ought to be discussed. I love it :)
Finally, "I'm not like other girls" gets old pretty quick. I brush my teeth when I take a shower, but I don't think that gives me personality. I'm just lazy.
Wait you can do that?
@@revolvertaco7493 nah man. Only the select few can accomplish this. The chosen
@@ayea28 damn. I thought I was a special breed when I discovered that I could get more slurpee into my cup if I turned the rounded lid upside down.
I still have so far to go....
@@revolvertaco7493 train hard young grasshopper
Thanks for this! I loved this show. I think that, as with Friends, the extended and close ties between these people also serves as a temporary surrogate and healing period for family structures that might've hindered development. As with every individual, you inherit both strengths and weaknesses from your family dynamic. With New Girl, we can see sometimes the isolated nuclear family has broken apart; or the father figure has abandoned the household; or the family are immigrants with different social norms that children find hard to live up to, given their first generation experience, etc. The friendship, even though seemingly adolescent, is a useful bridge to help the individuals in the group face fears, challenge themselves and eventually grow up. It's a sweet show and overabundance of emotions (even though melodramatic in nature) is what I think made it special.
Post-recession America? Not sure we're quite there yet.
We will probably have a new recession in the next 2 years, and a really big one.
Solid analogy
Thank you, Amanda. What world are the makers of this video living in. People who work at Sam's Club came to work one day to be told their store was closing. Countless other businesses are filing for bankruptcy, paying their owners and stockholders on the way out, but leaving the workers high and dry. ... and signs indicate a new recession or possibly depression is on the horizon soon. They should have stuck with making a fluffy 'adorkable' video about New Girl, because they don't get what's happening with the economy.
Miguel Quinto Short the stock market and profit off of everyone losing their jobs and businesses declining.
OHH how this had aged well
11:25 "Young people today are not dealing with the immediate aftermath of a recession"
2020: recession, pandemic, gender reveal parties
god no wonder i initially watched it for escapism and left with the cripling fear of Growing Up. it’s a coming of age.
Loved this. Thanks for doing this little analysis. Was a fan of the show from start to finish.
Phoebe and joey character studies please.
god, yes, this!
YES!!
YES X 100000000
They're up!
If only other shows would end when they are no longer relevant (Big Bang Theory)
Yout wish came true
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Wow, this channel is always producing quality content. Keep up the great work.
I used to love this show. I really need to catch up on it. I appreciate you guys doing videos focusing on female characters and shows. It’s a nice change of pace.
Maybe because I'm a millennial that born in 92'
I relate to New Girl more than How I met your mother, and far more than Friends
I loved New Girl. I’m really going to miss it😔
You cvan still t on NetFlix, on some legal site or buy or stream it. It';s era willnever end. And its cast (Zooey,sp.) is sitll alivew..
this show means so much to me and it made my day when i got notified for this video THANKS. A LOT!
This show looks great, gotta get around to it this summer.
Who's that girl? Who's that girl?
Franz The Handsome It’s Jess!
It's Andy!
kevinkellyswellies Are you sure it’s not Bearclaw?
Franz The Handsome it’s Jess
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"todays young people aren't dealing with the immediate aftermath of a recession"
Oh, how I wish that was still true
You guys do a fantastic job of decoding TV and film. For filmmakers such as myself it's like going back to film school in the best possible ways. Always learning. Keep it up!
Love this web series of The Take! Love the narrator! Especially the one about Cinderella! Whoever wrote that critique is the kindest soul in the world! Love you!
"todays young people aren't dealing with the immediate aftermath of the recession" *laughs in 2020*
2:43 I never knew that John Krasinski (from "The Office) was on "New Girl"!
ASIAN JIM!
I followed it since it first came out. I was in love with it since Day One.
Ive been binge watching it all week.
I'm gonna miss this show in my life. So damn much. I can just always laugh when I watch it. Just like it is with friends for me. Still can't believe it's over
New Girl is one of those shows I've never seen but would probably binge watch the entire series on Netflix if it was put on. In 2011 there were polls about what show would be the most culturally significant and fondly remembered by future generations. In those type of polls most people said The Big Bang Theory, I said The Middle (because it was still fresh back then) but I guess we've all been punked because it was New Girl.
oh, here in Germany New Girl is on Netflix. I saw the first season years ago on TV and was quite annoyed from Jess' character but recently i started to watch the third season via Netflix and i liked it
The male banter on New Girl is really great. All of the guys are really relatable and funny in their own ways
You girls are the best. I love this channel so much
I've never watched this show, but I think now I will. Thank you, ScreenPrism!
If the show started in 2011 and the people were 30-32, then they're not Millinneials.
Actualy, the ones who are 30-31 are meillenials, only the ones who are 32 are from Gen X
Bradley J No, its not, they were born after 1980, so they are millenials
@Bradley J if you where born between 80 and 95 you're a Millenial.
@@darthvader1787 Zoey was born on January 17, 1980, so she IS one of the last of the red hot Gen Xres
I completely agree I remember on my graduation in Madison square garden a guy literally told me you picked a hell of year to graduate
THIS SHOW WAS SO GOOD! BEST DEPICTION OF TV FRIENDSHIP
I don't think millennials need more time than their parents to mature; I think we're just more honest about not being ready. Our parents were expected to marry, pop out babies, and take on boring jobs to support it all whether they were ready for it or not. Millennials be like "uhhhhh. No thanks. Sounds miserable. I'm gonna figure myself out."
This is such a great video and really pinpoints something I'd never realised about New Girl that makes me feel like I can appreciate it more.
500 Days of Summer was a deconstruction of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl and critics that don't understand why are too dense
I really disliked the "try-too-hard-to-be-dorky" feel of it. I felt like I could see through it.
Ryan Rodriguez I always saw this show as a bunch of memes loosely tied together with preposterous story lines.
I only watched to see Jess and CeCe's outfits.
This was why I didn't watch it in 2011, though I imagine if the show managed to go this long that it must have grown out of this/ found a good balance of it. This video makes me actually want to finally check it out.
SAME.
@@mundaneamazing Yeah, it was never that deep. I love Screen Prism, but I think they're reaching too much here.
Yeah, I saw the clip of Jess saying batmanmobile to Cece( they tried to force that dorkyness and it just, like nobody ever says that shit like ohhh IM So DuMb I CaNnOt PrOnOuNcE WoRdS CoRrEcTlY) What makes it even more ridiculous is that she says it correctly many episodes before......That type of crap is enough to annoy someone into a headache
This was actually an incredibly thoughtful and thorough analysis of new girl. I didn't even realize as I was watching the show, but those are TOTALLY the reasons why the show was so relatable to me, and why it'll always have a place in my heart. Still my favorite show of all time.
I liked the other characters, but Winston was the character that made me LOL more than any other. Well....Coach did too, but he doesn't really count because he was in-&-out of the show a lot. Good job, ladies. 😊❤️
you're video essays are soo goodddd!!!
why is this channel like an actually well thought out and intelligent watch mojo??
I've been binging your videos all week and they're so good! Please keep up the amazing work!
y’all never miss
I can't believe it's over... I love-...loved this show.
I just LOVE your videos
I love New Girl
Love your channel thank you for all you do
This is one of the best shows i've ever watched tbh. It never got boring, had great characters and amazing character development and an ending i'm pretty sure mostly everyone had hoped for (compared to many other shows who have shitty endings).
I feel like something has to be said about Michael Cera here because he was essentially the adorkable boy of the late 00’s-early 10’s
This was a perfect video thank you
i love this show, and this good bye was one of the hardest!
I assumed the glasses with no lenses was a just a TV thing, to avoid glare/reflections.
Amazing analysis! Thank you for giving a deeper meaning to this show and helping me understand my 20 somethingness.
I love something like this. Light hearted, touching and interesting. I want something I could watch with friends and family and alone as well, something I could enjoy when I'm bored, I'm happy, I'm sad, something I could watch while eating and not have to worry about missing some important plot point...