Denni And still, even to this day they are considered as a bible that shape some of our musical tastes. That's why you should always take those "best of" or "worst of" lists or critics albums reviews with a grain of salt.
They despised the Ramones "I bought the first Ramones record, because Rolling Stone hated it, and anything they hated, always sounded pretty great to me!"- Billy Zoom
It's funny how the critics back then hated these albums but now they worship them
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Konstantinos Ernesto Economou It's true. I've bought albums I hated at first listen but gave them another spin or two before I was hooked. Bet some of these "critics" gave one cursory listen and then passed judgment. Maybe some regretted their first impressions? Oh, well...
"It's funny how the critics back then hated these albums but now they worship them" Critics aren't monolithic and most of the critics today aren't the same people nor with the same tastes as music critics in the 70s.
To be fair, that may be what the reviewer actually thought and that's ok as a personal opinion. However, to present it as an absolute fact that everyone should adhere to is bullshit - and that's all these "critics" are doing.
Actually there is no comparison to make. Elvis wrote excellent lyrics and great music. Van Halen was some great rocking music but their lyrics were banal unless you were 14.
They also loved Public Enemy, the Sex Pistols, Bob Dylan, Van Morrison, the Beach Boys, the Clash, the Who, the Stones, the Kinks, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Elvis Costello, the Modern Lovers and many more . . . however, metal has rarely gotten a smooth ride from the rock press. Fine by me . . .
ProJatior That's kind of what I'm saying. I used to find that if a record got one rave review it meant nothing, but if it got two or more it was almost certainly worth checking out. Some people will take what a critic says as gospel. Then again, there are others who go to the other extreme and say all critics are full of shit all of the time. I don't know which type is worse.
Occasionally critics are in cool bands like The Angry Samoans or the Sniveling Shits that’s the late 70s though when music was generally a little more interesting
To be fair, they have had good points about some albums. At the time, I probably would have agreed with their review on CCR's Mardi Gras, seeing as the worst album they had ever heard from a band. :P
@@YouCanCallMeXoe what ??? CCR never made a bad album in their whole career. C'mon !! And imo the fucking Ramones were the most overrated band ever. Rolling Stone magazine was too rolling stoned to get it right !
Wtf ! Pink Floyd become world famous superstars with DARK SIDE OF THE MOON and then follow it up with another masterpiece WISH YOU WERE HERE. Critics are useless pieces of shit who probably can't even tune up a guitar, let alone review intelligent music.
"Wish You Were Here" reviews make me laugh because that album was purposely made to poke at the music industry because they would make them do everything just for money instead of the joy of making music.
Rolling Stone hated The Wall when it came out too. They savaged it as the worst Floyd album of all time, as they continued to compare every Floyd album to Dark Side. RS doesn't deserve respect. It is studiously wrong.
There´s two kind of critics, the objective one and the "i need attention" one, the first one worth a listen cause he might have some valid point, the other one is like every kid in the comment section shitting in what they can´t do
Ignore the critics. We know what we love, don't need negative nimrods trying to sway us. Oh yes, prime example: Grand Funk Railroad, pissed on, shit on and puked on by critics, loved by millions of fans worldwide. Critics always hated Zeppelin btw. I agree that you can't please everybody, but let's be serious here....
Every Iron Maiden album in the eighties got scathing reviews. Believe it or not, so did most Yes albums. Really, most classic bands were hated in their time.
I have never put any credence into what Rolling Stone mag has to say. They have always come across as pretentious little hipsters that HATE hard rock and metal (as this video points out, going back to the late 60s when they started)... I assume some of that is driven by the fact that they were beat up by the fans of those genres growing up. They think our music is immature and/or lacking in substance, because it doesn't fit into their idea of "art." However, most of what they consider art, I consider boring, whiny, unenergetic and uninspiring music made by people as miserable as they are. I will never buy a copy of Rolling Stone magazine - they are as big of a joke to the world of hard rock and metal, as is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
They kinda like Black Sabbath, Metallica and occasional albums from some other bands, but in general yes - they seem to hate the genre. However Christgau is even worse imo.
PDX Guitar Freak Also you have to remember that rolling stone magazine is the same magazine that put John Lennon above Slash, Dimebag Darrell and Hetfield on their greatest guitarist list so I'm not trusting anything they say XD
They'd still have the leftover teeth marks, too. Maybe some folks need to be bitten on the ass to get them to hear good music. Actually, if ANYTHING bit me on the ass , I'd really appreciate it, at my age.
He also said about music critics: "People who can't write, doing interviews with people who cannot think, in order to prepare articles for people who can't read.
Other examples : Kick Out The Jams - MC5 "The thick overlay of teenage-revolution and total-energy-thing [attempts to conceal] these scrapyard vistas of cliches and ugly noise." - Rolling Stone Are You Experienced? - Jimi Hendrix (overall positive but got some pretty negative reviews too) "It is one thing for Jimi to talk arrogantly and without any pretense at artistry; it's another to write lyrics in that fashion." - Rolling Stone Blood On The Tracks - Bob Dylan (very divisive, for an album that is now adored by critics) "To compare the new album to Blonde on Blonde at all is to imply that people will treasure it as deeply and for as long. They won't." - Rolling Stone (#14 on Greatest Albums of all time, yeah right totally forgotten) Harvest - Neil Young (again, mixed) "It's as if he just added a steel guitar and new words to After The Gold Rush." - Rolling Stone Freak Out! - The Mothers of Invention (Not that many reviews, but mostly scathing ones) "[Freak Out!] could be the greatest stimulus to the aspirin industry since the income tax" - Los Angeles Times
The “In The Court of the Crimson King” one pissed me off. One of the most important prog albums of all time and definitely one of the best of all time.
For its time, Court Of The Crimson King was such a musically artistic rock song, that I believe many just didn’t understand where it fit into the landscape. King Crimson was a very underrated band.
@@rickleblanc8900 intelligent? I would say their music is not very dynamic. Too often it's sort of lethargic and phlegmatic, lacking any sort of punch to śpice things up. I know they're not really a rock band, but some more aggression or speed would make them more interesting I think
@@jans2887 I get why you don't like them that much, but I bet most people would think exactly the opposite. Pink Floyd is for sure one of the best rock bands of all time. I personally find their music very unique, and more than dynamic; not boring at all. And yes, they were a rock band!
@@alejandro.isaacg They're a rock band in the sense that they play guitars. But stylistically they're not really rock. Which I don't care about, because I don't think playing rock makes anyone a better band.
Rolling Stone Magazine Cult: The Clash are the greatest band to ever exist. Jimi Hendrix was the greatest guitarist ever. Van Halen is adolescence absurdity and only the second worst rock band behind..... Kiss. Yep. If you say print it enough times, many people will believe that those statements are actually true.
“It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat.” - Theodore Roosevelt
@@julos5598 Not at all, singles were just the top of the iceberg, if they are singles it's because they usually are the one that people is more prone to buy
2:31 Melody Maker: *says Pink Floyd has lack of imagination on the Wish You Were Here album* Pink Floyd members and Shine on You Crazy Diamond: Are we a joke to you!??!?!
As I've often said: Those who can't do, teach. Those who can't do _OR_ teach, become critics. Thanks for proving me right all these years, Loudwire. Loved the list =)
@@tommaso5727 Tupac is in 86th while Pink Floyd is in 52nd. Moreover, Tupac's lyrics is so powerful, maybe you don't have enough guts to understand that. So shut up. (Not a Rap fan though)
The worst list they have is the top 100 guitarists one. it's painful to look at. Putting kurt boain fifty spots in front of Dimebag darrel, not eve mentionning buckethead and other guitar gods on the list...
Probably your typical Kiss fan. Their music wasn't exactly a favorite with the critics but their music was completely unchallenging and lyrics downright dumb which appeals to the type of person who wants music that requires little thinking and simply rock out. In that case they'd have trouble with In the Court of the Crimson King and don't get it.
I think a lot of these critics were failed musicians/artists themselves and held a grudge against the biggest rock groups of that time. Rolling Stone was particularly vicious. I know Lester Bangs was a wannabe musician and Robert Christgau started as a sci-fi short story writer but moved on to become a journalist and then rock critic. No wonder these bands had no respect for the press. Today, these scathing reviews of classic albums of Zeppelin, Floyd's Wish You Were Here and Sabbath's first album sound so far off base and completely ridiculous.
I have always found Robert Christgau to be the mark for all douchebag rock critics to shoot for. He has no redeeming qualities to speak of and has been a rock critic for years despite no actual qualifications to be one. Whenever I have seen a Christgau review in the past, I chose to buy the record that he shit all over even if I didn't like the group and he was always pretty far off base. Thurston Moore of the legendary but now defunct group Sonic Youth responded to a very negative Christgau review by writing a song called, I Killed Robert Christgau With My Big Fucking Cock, and put it on their next album release. Wouldn't have expected that from a kid from Coral Gables but it was admirable anyway.
It has aged quite well, but I can see why people who loved the classic Queen songs would not take to it right away, as it was quite a departure from most of the music they had released previously.
Nah, Jazz is good, but not THAT great and this is coming from a fan. Still, it’s ridiculous that the rating is 1.5/5, like I’d probably give it a 3.5/5.
@@TGSP16 Thibk of what was popular the decade before. Big polished poppy hair metal. Everywhere you looked was glammy and every damn party you could choke on the hair spray. Then here comes a band with depressing lyrics that actually connected with the depressing real world of the 80s and 90s. A band that didn't do all that and just had a simple drums bass guitar and vocals with some distortion and a bit of chorus thown in. No keyboards no big stages no fireworks and no god damn power ballads. Nirvana were such a shock in the music world that people had no choice but to pay attention
Sometimes I actually never trust critics in any opinions they have, because I'm the kind of guy who has to see it to believe. Sometimes I disagree, and sometimes I agree. But I never trust anything Rolling Stone has to say lmao. Funny how theses albums changed the world in contrast with these opinions!
@Joshua Brind You are so right and you should say it!!! And I feel like the hate for "The Game" "Hot Space" and really any of Queen's 80s albums speaks to a larger phenomenon of rock critics being overly pretentious when their favorite bands want to branch out from the extremely narrow path of what that critic's idea of good rock music is. Honestly, whenever critics talk about an artist "selling out" or making an album that seems like a "cash grab", it rubs me the wrong way. These artists are not making music for YOU, the person who's stuck in 1973 and who thinks bands like Queen and the Beatles are lame because they're more pop than rock, they are making music for THEMSELVES, and are being generous enough to share their art with you. There are some critics who actually do what they're meant to do and give analysis of music that they both like and dislike (Todd in the Shadows here on RUclips is fabulous, I never miss one of his episodes even though I firmly disagree with his dislike of Ed Sheeran haha), but most treat music criticism as a platform of "look how smart and cool I am", and that's an insult to the craft.
@Joshua Brind .. I hear ya dude.. People also shitted all over Bowie when he formed Tin Machine. The first Tin Machine album is awesome. So many great tracks on it. Yet folks got the "Boo" on with Bowie because he was doing something different. (Kind of ironic coz Bowie was always being different. Lol.)
I feel sorry for people that don't like Rush. Best band that has been or will be, better than those 10 put together. and no he doesn't sound like a choked duck. Sounds more like defective lugs to me.@Stork Legs
Rolling Stone was famous for their elitist critics who shat on everything and everybody. We were perfectly capable of judging our music without Bangs, Landau and the others.
High Voltage is my favorite AC/DC album. I never trust critics for anything. I like to see for myself if I like something. Usually when critics praise something they're either paid off give it a good review.
Wish You Were Here?? Possibly the most perfect long playing record ever conceived. It's rare for me to fall in love with an album from the very first listen, but WYWH literally had me from the initial synth wave onward...! The record just sucked me in to its sonic landscape and I sat on my couch, headphones on, and took in every single note from start to finish while swept in emotion. At the end I sat there for a few more minutes with one question on my mind: have I just heard the best record ever made? This was in 2003. Sixteen years on I still maintain that it is, indeed, one of those perfect records in the history of popular music. And I know I am not alone, lol.
Bullshit, they HATED acid rock from which metal and punk came from. They loved 'folkies', 'grown up music' (ie middle class middle aged retirement music; Joni MItchell, Carol King, Cat Stevens, Bruce Springsteen etc) and 'serious' jazz stuff. They hated the Doors, Led Zep; Sabbath, Floyd and Sgt Peppers at the time (Favorites of mine) as well the most acid of music ('War Pigs' is classic Hippie anti war sentiment in 1969; see Hendrix 'Star Spangled Banner'. LEARN some music history, you ignorant meme spewing cunt and stop just regurgitating crap you heard from others, it's embarrassing and worse spreads lies about what happened! Rolling Stone are crap aside from their support for Hunter S Thompson!
With the Korn one you should've put in the clip of Beavis and Butt-head reviewing the song "Blind" in which Beavis suddenly sounds intelligent in his review. And goes on that it "Lacks originality and it is very derivative of other bands like White Zombie and Suicidal tendencies and other bands that carry the mantle of so called 'Alternative rock.' "
A lot of these reviews for albums are the kind of reaction to something new or different. Back when these albums were released they didn't have the context of what these albums would become or what they would influence. Music critics use to really piss on 80s and very early 90s alternative rock (along with metal but that's not what we're talking about). But then Nevermind came out and all the bands they use to give shit to suddenly became relevant and they all looked like fools. This lead to critics giving middle of the road reviews on new things to play it safe, or sing the praises of shit in the hopes of looking like they're on the cutting edge. TL;DR: Just buy music you like, and maybe read the critic reviews for laughs or fun.
I hate "Bohemian Rhapsody" But I love "We Will Rock You", "Hammer to Fall", "Seven Seas Of Rhye", "Keep Yourself Alive", "Princes of the Universe", "Another One Bites The Dust", "One Vision", "Under Pressure", and "Headlong"
Can't stand them. I don't like music that's "weird", just for the sake of being weird. It's also why I don't like Pink Floyd and most psychedelic music.
I like Corn better than that, but notice they took a review from the CALGARY HERALD? That's the only city in Canada where it's not weird to wear cowboy boots or hats, and it's the home of Canada's oil industry and biggest rodeo, think Canada's Houston. Duh Korn got a bad review, that's cherry picking.
The pure, brutal contrast of the segueway from King Crimson to Korn completely shut me down for the day. Will go to bed in order to sleep it off. Not setting the alarm. The body must recover at its own pace.
Moral of the story: If Rolling Stone doesn't like your album, you're probably on the right track
Denni Wintyr 😂😂
Denni
And still, even to this day they are considered as a bible that shape some of our musical tastes. That's why you should always take those "best of" or "worst of" lists or critics albums reviews with a grain of salt.
Exactly.they promote mainstream big label product, while pretending to be " hip" to what's fresh.shills for corporate $$
They despised the Ramones "I bought the first Ramones record, because Rolling Stone hated it, and anything they hated, always sounded pretty great to me!"- Billy Zoom
@@richardkey4289 Kurt Cobain was usually right about these things, hence the famous T-shirt "corporate magazines suck."
>Rolling Stones
>Gets bad review from Rolling Stone
Don’t trust anyone, not even yourself.
Lol
sometimes it be ya own niggas
Funny enough is most of these albums are super high on their top 500 albums of all time.
Different dylan Songs inspired the rolling stone magazine and the rolling stones to their Names
lmao
It's funny how the critics back then hated these albums but now they worship them
Konstantinos Ernesto Economou It's true. I've bought albums I hated at first listen but gave them another spin or two before I was hooked. Bet some of these "critics" gave one cursory listen and then passed judgment. Maybe some regretted their first impressions? Oh, well...
Defenitely agree
"It's funny how the critics back then hated these albums but now they worship them"
Critics aren't monolithic and most of the critics today aren't the same people nor with the same tastes as music critics in the 70s.
Cause it made them money...
Margaret Ann Casey
Exactly. "The critics" have not been the same people for the last 50 years - rock writers come and go.
I never listen to critics. I judge for myself, just like everyone should.
True. Most critics just form their opinion on what they think is going to be popular, they're corporate robots.
Same here
Agreed
Thats the way music should be interpreted, ni other way
Yes critics suck
Rolling Stone praised Avril Lavine as a tremendous new voice of "teen angst" after her debut... yet Pink Floyd is unimaginative.
That's modernish Rolling Stone. They praise nearly everything.
She was the worst. Glad she's gone, the "I'm so punk, the dead Kennedys fear me" attitude from her disgusted me.
To be fair, that may be what the reviewer actually thought and that's ok as a personal opinion. However, to present it as an absolute fact that everyone should adhere to is bullshit - and that's all these "critics" are doing.
@Cletus Anfernee Jackson avril lavigne isn't dead, she just isn't making music anymore
LMFAO
Rolling stone magazine is great! When you run out of toilet paper.
Oooh burn
I’d rather use my socks or boxers, Rolling Stone would make your ass dirtier.
dragnetter g my ass would be offended to lay in that lonesome filth
Kevin Dubrow quote?
I respect my ass too much to wipe it with the Rolling Stone....
"The reason critics like Elvis Costello more than me is because they all look like Elvis Costello."
- David Lee Roth
Great Quote!
david lee roth sucks
@Blue Storm anti-Semitic comment. You should be jailed for it. (Who cares if you are right on the mark).
Actually there is no comparison to make. Elvis wrote excellent lyrics and great music. Van Halen was some great rocking music but their lyrics were banal unless you were 14.
@@sh230968 right or wrong is not the problem. stupidity of blue storm is the problem
“Critical lack of imagination...”
What
Trevor Ganoe I know right? The whole album was innovative and fun to listen to
I laughed pretty hard at that
The critic mu
To say wish you were here lacks imagination, rolling stone should critique the pure shit that's on Saturday night live every weekend!!!
I don't think they know what Transcend means.
Edit: That wasn't meant to be a reply... oh well
Rolling Stone: "We were pretentious elitists before it was cool."
And yet they slated prog rock for precisely those reasons.
James Bannon they called 90125 an embarrassment when that album saved yes and made them popular again
Pitchfork: Hold my beer.
"Just like Cream only Worse" is actually pretty hilarious, even if its BS
I see what you did there...
the press hates anything trying to change music
TheBritishMewtwo true
Well they loved The Beatles
They also loved Public Enemy, the Sex Pistols, Bob Dylan, Van Morrison, the Beach Boys, the Clash, the Who, the Stones, the Kinks, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Elvis Costello, the Modern Lovers and many more . . . however, metal has rarely gotten a smooth ride from the rock press.
Fine by me . . .
Tony Bates Well yeah just because the press likes something doesn’t mean it’s bad either.
ProJatior
That's kind of what I'm saying.
I used to find that if a record got one rave review it meant nothing, but if it got two or more it was almost certainly worth checking out.
Some people will take what a critic says as gospel. Then again, there are others who go to the other extreme and say all critics are full of shit all of the time. I don't know which type is worse.
I suggested for the next video *"10 Albums Critics Loved, But The World Hated"*
THAT could be interesting, I'd buy that ! Good idea mate !
Rolling Stone always seemed to like Yoko Ono....
The opposite of this, very clever
Are there 10 at all?
Elvis Costello
How the hell is Rolling Stone still in circulation?!? Have they ever gotten anything right?
I think the CIA funds them to spread establishment propaganda nowdays.
Not yet.
Not in a long long long time.
You buy it so that you can see what they DONT like then go out and get it! I thought everyone from the 60's on new that.
Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves.
How has this comment got less than a million likes?
Well said
Those who can, do. Those who can't, become critics
Occasionally critics are in cool bands like The Angry Samoans or the Sniveling Shits that’s the late 70s though when music was generally a little more interesting
Mainstrean music critics: modern music sucks cause It all sounds the same
Also mainstrean music critics: hates everthing that sounds new and different
@Vincent Mileto you said that critics suck, while saying you say your opinion, do I need to point out the hypocrisy
@Vincent Mileto and second there is good modern music, you are just to lazy to go find it
@@xenan7889 Agree, there is so much good music nowadays and people with a stick up their ass are too stubborn to go look for it.
@Vincent Mileto You do realize that listeners of Jazz said the same about your beloved rock?
moral of the story- Never ever consider Rolling Stones reviews seriously
But they were right about the stooges a pathetic group of useless weirdos unlike the more adventurous more innovative and better at everything MC5.
Tuten Vanman Say what you will, but Search and Destroy is fantastic
They had a 100 Greatest Guitarists list where Kurt Cobain was like #17 and EVH was like #80. Dimebag Darrell wasn't even on it.
To be fair, they have had good points about some albums. At the time, I probably would have agreed with their review on CCR's Mardi Gras, seeing as the worst album they had ever heard from a band. :P
@@YouCanCallMeXoe what ??? CCR never made a bad album in their whole career. C'mon !! And imo the fucking Ramones were the most overrated band ever. Rolling Stone magazine was too rolling stoned to get it right !
"writing about music is like dancing about architecture", frank zappa
Zappa also said that "Most rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, for people who can't read." ;-)
Pink Floyd lack imagination? Possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
came here to say this, i am not a huge fan but i appreciate their music. how anyone could make such a statement is beyond me lol
Wtf ! Pink Floyd become world famous superstars with DARK SIDE OF THE MOON and then follow it up with another masterpiece WISH YOU WERE HERE. Critics are useless pieces of shit who probably can't even tune up a guitar, let alone review intelligent music.
VultureClone I agree but they are overrated.
Exactly what I was thinking lol
I think it's ridiculous indeed, and I've nver been into the Floyd (though they inspired a few of my favourite bands. Go figure.)
"Wish You Were Here" reviews make me laugh because that album was purposely made to poke at the music industry because they would make them do everything just for money instead of the joy of making music.
Anyone mentioned how much Rolling Stone hates heavy metal?😆
The Wish You Were Here reviews are the exact opposite of reality.
If I had to guess, the critics just wanted another dark side of the moon.
But yeah, they're dead wrong.
Hayden of Everything totally true !! I thought none the less, they couldn't be more wrong
"Wish You Were" is as good as "Dark Side of the Moon", maybe even a little bit better.
Rolling Stone hated The Wall when it came out too. They savaged it as the worst Floyd album of all time, as they continued to compare every Floyd album to Dark Side. RS doesn't deserve respect. It is studiously wrong.
Seriously XD
I really don’t give a shit what critics say
Shadow Figure I don’t think anyone does they are payed to complain
There´s two kind of critics, the objective one and the "i need attention" one, the first one worth a listen cause he might have some valid point, the other one is like every kid in the comment section shitting in what they can´t do
I trust critics only when it is exactly my opinion.
DannyMcfries yes truth
I always make sure Rolling Stone gave a bad review before I'm buying any album. That is how I know I will probably like it
meganega123 ha! Me too
meganega123, it would be an insult if an album was loved by Rolling Stone.
Ignore the critics. We know what we love, don't need negative nimrods trying to sway us. Oh yes, prime example: Grand Funk Railroad, pissed on, shit on and puked on by critics, loved by millions of fans worldwide. Critics always hated Zeppelin btw. I agree that you can't please everybody, but let's be serious here....
Critics are frustrated wannabe musicians that failed.
If they failed at becoming wannabe musicians then they are real musicians?
No not really. That's the little kid's insult and excuse for not having a critical opinion.
Duke Emzworth yes like DJ's
“Calculated stupidity offends me”
Rolling stone will never offend themselves then
ACDC are pretty shit tho?
@@ILoveDawko Not really
@@chadtrickthereal They kinda are tho?
@@ILoveDawko no they aren't
@@artemisthegunslinger3956 I checked and they still are.
Every Iron Maiden album in the eighties got scathing reviews.
Believe it or not, so did most Yes albums.
Really, most classic bands were hated in their time.
Scott Baldwin Yes! Even motherfucking Abbey road had some struggles in the critic department
GOd yes was terrible lol
I love how Rolling Stones has Said so much shit in all of their critics !!!
That is a meaningless statement.
Have a little respect You Damn Critics
Stone Cold XV
Critics with respect would be very boring.
Roling Stone its rock music magazine as Post Malone is a rockstar
Like armond white is a movie critic
Post plays guitar though, and he does cover rock songs sometime, he made a video with Jared Dines also
Have you even heard post Malone play guitar?
Yes is amazing but the trap shit they sing destroy everything
@@ryancrawford945 taylor swift plays guitar too
The thing is a lot of these were bands debut albums, which just proves they were changing music and critics didn't get it.
No band plays for the critic . They play for the love music and for the fans.
Yet they somehow get all depressed as soon as their albums are panned. Ha.
@@genki2genki while their albums are selling millions
See people, things really don't change: Rolling Stone didn't know what the fuck it was talking about then either.
I have never put any credence into what Rolling Stone mag has to say. They have always come across as pretentious little hipsters that HATE hard rock and metal (as this video points out, going back to the late 60s when they started)... I assume some of that is driven by the fact that they were beat up by the fans of those genres growing up. They think our music is immature and/or lacking in substance, because it doesn't fit into their idea of "art." However, most of what they consider art, I consider boring, whiny, unenergetic and uninspiring music made by people as miserable as they are. I will never buy a copy of Rolling Stone magazine - they are as big of a joke to the world of hard rock and metal, as is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
They kinda like Black Sabbath, Metallica and occasional albums from some other bands, but in general yes - they seem to hate the genre. However Christgau is even worse imo.
PDX Guitar Freak Also you have to remember that rolling stone magazine is the same magazine that put John Lennon above Slash, Dimebag Darrell and Hetfield on their greatest guitarist list so I'm not trusting anything they say XD
You fucking nailed it.
Fuck Rolling Stone and fuck the Rock n Roll Hall of Shame
They are so open minded their heads are full of shit.
To paraphrase Frank Zappa - Some people wouldn't know good music if it bit them on the ass.
Also from Frank: Most rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, for people who can't read
@@teemusid: Thanks for resurrecting one of Frank's best quotes.
They'd still have the leftover teeth marks, too.
Maybe some folks need to be bitten on the ass to get them to hear good music.
Actually, if ANYTHING bit me on the ass , I'd really appreciate it, at my age.
He also said: "talking about music is like dancing about architecture"
He also said about music critics: "People who can't write, doing interviews with people who cannot think, in order to prepare articles for people who can't read.
Imagine panning 1970's Pink Floyd in print and putting your name to it.
"How can I make my 3 word statement 300 words so I look like I'm smart" -Robert Christgau probably
I never liked that asshole since the day I read his name.
One things always been consistent throughout the decades. Rolling Stone magazine is a complete waste of time.
They did pring some good articles by Hunter S. Thompson. But as a music magazine--Zero.
@@aleleeinnaleleeinn9110, doh, that's what I was going to say;)
The “Just like cream! But worse” line made my sides hurt from laughing.
Black Sabbath is literally miles ahead of Cream
what are you talking about, SBS and Sabotage, Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules were amazing. and 13 was great, i dont know what your talking about
Only someone with used tampons in their ears would think those two sound alike in any way.
I gotta admit, despite not sharing the opinions of most, there were some funny insults: "party anthems for agoraphobics."
That was a good one.
Rolling stone: same magazine which voted Tupac and NWA into the ROCK N ROLL hall of fame lol
They may not be rock but they slap
Garrett Willcox I mean, nu-metal was basically white dudes who wished they were NWA so I think they deserve their spot.
Tupac has fucking nothing to do with rock n roll ...... Leave it to Rolling Stone magazine .......
@@ladydontekno they also haven't put iron maiden or Dio into it so basically fuck the hall of fame
Yeah kinda stupid to put them in rock hall of fame, but they still were incredibly influentual, like hip hop or not, these people were very talented.
Other examples :
Kick Out The Jams - MC5
"The thick overlay of teenage-revolution and total-energy-thing [attempts to conceal] these scrapyard vistas of cliches and ugly noise." - Rolling Stone
Are You Experienced? - Jimi Hendrix (overall positive but got some pretty negative reviews too)
"It is one thing for Jimi to talk arrogantly and without any pretense at artistry; it's another to write lyrics in that fashion." - Rolling Stone
Blood On The Tracks - Bob Dylan (very divisive, for an album that is now adored by critics)
"To compare the new album to Blonde on Blonde at all is to imply that people will treasure it as deeply and for as long. They won't." - Rolling Stone (#14 on Greatest Albums of all time, yeah right totally forgotten)
Harvest - Neil Young (again, mixed)
"It's as if he just added a steel guitar and new words to After The Gold Rush." - Rolling Stone
Freak Out! - The Mothers of Invention (Not that many reviews, but mostly scathing ones)
"[Freak Out!] could be the greatest stimulus to the aspirin industry since the income tax" - Los Angeles Times
Some people are in charge of pens
That shouldn't be in charge of brooms.- Graham Parker
The “In The Court of the Crimson King” one pissed me off. One of the most important prog albums of all time and definitely one of the best of all time.
I'm not musical expert but that album is almost perfect isn't it? every song is so good, so epic, how anyone could hate that masterpiece?
For its time, Court Of The Crimson King was such a musically artistic rock song, that I believe many just didn’t understand where it fit into the landscape. King Crimson was a very underrated band.
Too bad they showed John Whetstone singing instead of Greg Lake who actually sang it on the album.
God I hate auto correct
@Margaret Ann Casey oh ya let's get some cool pop or rap/hip hop shit goin instead, huh ??? Let's hear it for auto tune. Yuck
There's no way Pink Floyd lacks imagination and passion
They're OK but often put me to sleep
@@jans2887 well, they're not metal, so you won't feel assaulted ! So i guess intelligent music puts you to sleep ? Ok.........
@@rickleblanc8900 intelligent? I would say their music is not very dynamic. Too often it's sort of lethargic and phlegmatic, lacking any sort of punch to śpice things up. I know they're not really a rock band, but some more aggression or speed would make them more interesting I think
@@jans2887 I get why you don't like them that much, but I bet most people would think exactly the opposite. Pink Floyd is for sure one of the best rock bands of all time. I personally find their music very unique, and more than dynamic; not boring at all. And yes, they were a rock band!
@@alejandro.isaacg They're a rock band in the sense that they play guitars. But stylistically they're not really rock. Which I don't care about, because I don't think playing rock makes anyone a better band.
The biggest mistake these bands made,according to Rolling Stone, is not being Bob Dylan or Joni Mitchell.
Shit, Joni got bad reviews too. "SHE WENT ELECTRIC BOO HOO BOO HOO" I think Rolling Stone hated EVERYTHING that I liked. Like I cared.
Rolling Stone famously began its review of Dylan's "Self Portrait" with "What is this sh*t?"
@@OroborusFMA Well, even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.
No kidding. Or fucking King Crimson.
Rolling Stone Magazine Cult: The Clash are the greatest band to ever exist.
Jimi Hendrix was the greatest guitarist ever.
Van Halen is adolescence absurdity and only the second worst rock band behind.....
Kiss.
Yep. If you say print it enough times, many people will believe that those statements are actually true.
“It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat.”
- Theodore Roosevelt
"Just like Cream! But worse" Can't stop laughing at that one, that is why I have never even read the critics opinions
A night at the opera by Queen was hated by critics. And Bohemian Rhapsody was on it.
Pretty much all of Queen's albums were hated by critics
Kake er matete mama........
Still it's not Hot Space, too much people hates it, A night at the opera wasn't welcome too anyway... Also critics hated The Game and A Kind Of Magic
Tbf Queen's albums as a whole were not ground-breaking, it was more their hit singles that did the trick.
@@julos5598 Not at all, singles were just the top of the iceberg, if they are singles it's because they usually are the one that people is more prone to buy
you missed one of my all-time favourites: "If this band makes it, I'll commit suicide." : Rolling Stone, Uriah Heep's first album.
Did he do it?
Anything from Black Sabbath is loved by me🤘🏻
Harley Quinn Fuck yeah
Lucious Aldamar 😈🤘🏻
Tony Iommi actually said ”the day we get good reviews by critics we shall quit”.
Harley Quinn even forbidden?
Oliver Fletcher yea
2:31
Melody Maker: *says Pink Floyd has lack of imagination on the Wish You Were Here album*
Pink Floyd members and Shine on You Crazy Diamond: Are we a joke to you!??!?!
Rolling Stone is hereby declared null and void.
I declared Rolling Stone null and void in 1988. They suck.
God, Rolling Stone is just a GARBAGE publication, isn't it?
Yup.
I enjoy reading it on the toilet, just avoid all record reviews.
@@triciabrown3035 Rolling Stone magazine is a body cleanser !
Thaddeus ALWAYS HAS AND WILL BE. ALWAYS
and all by rolling stone and these are the people running the rock 'n' roll hall of fame!, enough said really
The hall of fame is kinda their way of apologising for being so wrong all those years ago...
Should do 10 albums that critics liked/loved but fans absolutely despised.
It would probably consist of a lot of Radiohead.
A lot of critics actually liked lulu by Metallica I think and many like metal machine music by lou reed
The Big Day by Chance the Rapper
@@rodsmolter5046 lot of people love Radiohead
They might have a point with Korn.
Agree with that one!
As I've often said:
Those who can't do, teach.
Those who can't do _OR_ teach, become critics.
Thanks for proving me right all these years, Loudwire. Loved the list =)
Rolling Stone magazine was and still is garbage.
Truth!
Their top 100 lists are shit
nasser wiz look at the top 100 best artists. They fucking put 2pac over Pink Floyd and Eric Clapton
@@tommaso5727 Tupac is in 86th while Pink Floyd is in 52nd. Moreover, Tupac's lyrics is so powerful, maybe you don't have enough guts to understand that. So shut up. (Not a Rap fan though)
The worst list they have is the top 100 guitarists one. it's painful to look at. Putting kurt boain fifty spots in front of Dimebag darrel, not eve mentionning buckethead and other guitar gods on the list...
How can someone hate "In the court of the crimson king"?
Probably your typical Kiss fan. Their music wasn't exactly a favorite with the critics but their music was completely unchallenging and lyrics downright dumb which appeals to the type of person who wants music that requires little thinking and simply rock out. In that case they'd have trouble with In the Court of the Crimson King and don't get it.
King Crimson's music is Marmite - one either loves it or hates it. There's no ambivalence with Crimson.
It is a straight up masterpiece.
I think a lot of these critics were failed musicians/artists themselves and held a grudge against the biggest rock groups of that time.
Rolling Stone was particularly vicious. I know Lester Bangs was a wannabe musician and Robert Christgau started as a sci-fi short
story writer but moved on to become a journalist and then rock critic. No wonder these bands had no respect for the press.
Today, these scathing reviews of classic albums of Zeppelin, Floyd's Wish You Were Here and Sabbath's first album sound
so far off base and completely ridiculous.
I have always found Robert Christgau to be the mark for all douchebag rock critics to shoot for. He has no redeeming qualities to speak of and has been a rock critic for years despite no actual qualifications to be one. Whenever I have seen a Christgau review in the past, I chose to buy the record that he shit all over even if I didn't like the group and he was always pretty far off base.
Thurston Moore of the legendary but now defunct group Sonic Youth responded to a very negative Christgau review by writing a song called, I Killed Robert Christgau With My Big Fucking Cock, and put it on their next album release. Wouldn't have expected that from a kid from Coral Gables but it was admirable anyway.
at least Lester could write, and was funny.
One of many reasons I don’t read Rolling Stone!
Jazz was a bloody masterpiece as well as all Queen albums
(btw I'm not British but I just wanted to say bloody lol)
It has aged quite well, but I can see why people who loved the classic Queen songs would not take to it right away, as it was quite a departure from most of the music they had released previously.
All Queen albums are masterpieces except Hot Space. terrible funky disco shit
@@TakerKane29 With the great exception of "Under Pressure", Hot Space was the worst outing for the best band ever.
Nah, Jazz is good, but not THAT great and this is coming from a fan. Still, it’s ridiculous that the rating is 1.5/5, like I’d probably give it a 3.5/5.
Queen? Creeps? I'm sorry but rolling Stone were extremely stoned while writing that review
They called queen fascists in this review.
Nirvana’s Nevermind originally recieved 1.5/5 stars from Rolling Stone
LMFAO because it was different.
@@brianwilliams5662 low effort trolling my guy, if you're purposefully gonna try and piss people off online, do it right
@@heavymachete6235 PURPOSEFULLY???????? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jacob Molyneux they are tbh, I have no clue why their subpar musicianship and average grunge lyrics are considered so amazing
@@TGSP16 Thibk of what was popular the decade before. Big polished poppy hair metal. Everywhere you looked was glammy and every damn party you could choke on the hair spray. Then here comes a band with depressing lyrics that actually connected with the depressing real world of the 80s and 90s. A band that didn't do all that and just had a simple drums bass guitar and vocals with some distortion and a bit of chorus thown in. No keyboards no big stages no fireworks and no god damn power ballads. Nirvana were such a shock in the music world that people had no choice but to pay attention
If you hate King Crimson, you have just made every statement you have or will ever say irrelevant.
AMEN.
They forgot the greatest critique of Korn ever:
"It talks less to the heart, and more to the sphincter." ~ Beavis
How can you not love Led Zeppelin 1?
Because most of the songs on it were plagiarized from other artists whom Zep didn't give credit to.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 there is dazed and confused, you shook me lyrics.. thats it lol. babe im gonna leave you is a cover/adaptation.
How Many More Times.....best rock-and-roll intro ever.
@@hughjohnson4071 But a better ending - from 5:30 on out.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 Ooooh, a Music Justice Warrior.
Sometimes I actually never trust critics in any opinions they have, because I'm the kind of guy who has to see it to believe. Sometimes I disagree, and sometimes I agree. But I never trust anything Rolling Stone has to say lmao. Funny how theses albums changed the world in contrast with these opinions!
Yes I am aware of that. Doesn't mean I have to agree with them however my friend.
That is no problem at all my friend! Have a great rest of your day
“Sometimes I actually never...”
Ye, I'm not good with commenting haha. I basically never trust Critics
In reality, Jazz is one of Queen’s best albums.
Agree Don't Stop Me Now, Fat Bottomed Girls and Bicycle Race are one of their best songs
People love to crap on both “Jazz” and “The Game”, and those two albums have some of Queen’s best songs. I just don’t get it 🤷🏻♀️
@Joshua Brind You are so right and you should say it!!! And I feel like the hate for "The Game" "Hot Space" and really any of Queen's 80s albums speaks to a larger phenomenon of rock critics being overly pretentious when their favorite bands want to branch out from the extremely narrow path of what that critic's idea of good rock music is. Honestly, whenever critics talk about an artist "selling out" or making an album that seems like a "cash grab", it rubs me the wrong way. These artists are not making music for YOU, the person who's stuck in 1973 and who thinks bands like Queen and the Beatles are lame because they're more pop than rock, they are making music for THEMSELVES, and are being generous enough to share their art with you. There are some critics who actually do what they're meant to do and give analysis of music that they both like and dislike (Todd in the Shadows here on RUclips is fabulous, I never miss one of his episodes even though I firmly disagree with his dislike of Ed Sheeran haha), but most treat music criticism as a platform of "look how smart and cool I am", and that's an insult to the craft.
@Joshua Brind .. I hear ya dude.. People also shitted all over Bowie when he formed Tin Machine. The first Tin Machine album is awesome. So many great tracks on it. Yet folks got the "Boo" on with Bowie because he was doing something different. (Kind of ironic coz Bowie was always being different. Lol.)
Compared to Night at the Opera or A Day at the Races or News of the World... you're joking right?
You forgot to include Rush's entire discography.
And Queens
True. They hated rush
@Stork Legs I agree with you. there are both hard rock and prog rock bands that are way better than rush; still, people seem to idolise them...
Read the lyrics, here the music, watch Rush live. Then try to call them any thing but thoughtful, professional, n real. N the critics hated them
I feel sorry for people that don't like Rush. Best band that has been or will be, better than those 10 put together. and no he doesn't sound like a choked duck. Sounds more like defective lugs to me.@Stork Legs
Rolling Stone was famous for their elitist critics who shat on everything and everybody. We were perfectly capable of judging our music without Bangs, Landau and the others.
This list could easily be populated by at least four Rush albums.
Empire strikes back??
Wait, wrong channel.
Bottom line, Rolling Stone magazine is snobbish crap.
bottom-bottom line all critics are snobbish pieces of crap
Not even snobbish. Snobby people at least know what they're talking about. Rolling Stone has no clue.
List looks like my top 10 albums😂
Black sabbaths my favorite band of all time
Roger Taylor from Queen did wrote a letter back to RS abusing the hell out of them. The magazine did publish it.
Rolling Stone magazine is garbage.
Nice to know that Rolling Stone has always been worth nothing more than glossy toilet paper.
nat jonestower you can take the shit of your dog with that shit paper
High Voltage is my favorite AC/DC album.
I never trust critics for anything. I like to see for myself if I like something. Usually when critics praise something they're either paid off give it a good review.
Wow hey look a person who posts on youtube with a brain. So rare lol
Wish You Were Here?? Possibly the most perfect long playing record ever conceived. It's rare for me to fall in love with an album from the very first listen, but WYWH literally had me from the initial synth wave onward...! The record just sucked me in to its sonic landscape and I sat on my couch, headphones on, and took in every single note from start to finish while swept in emotion. At the end I sat there for a few more minutes with one question on my mind: have I just heard the best record ever made? This was in 2003. Sixteen years on I still maintain that it is, indeed, one of those perfect records in the history of popular music. And I know I am not alone, lol.
I remember when Neil Youngs Harvest was released Rolling Stone said "If you spread tomato sauce on it, you can pretend it's a pizza."
Well they obviously didn't have hearts of gold.
The only reason that rolling stone gave them bad reviews is because they wanted acid rock to still be a thing
Bullshit, they HATED acid rock from which metal and punk came from. They loved 'folkies', 'grown up music' (ie middle class middle aged retirement music; Joni MItchell, Carol King, Cat Stevens, Bruce Springsteen etc) and 'serious' jazz stuff. They hated the Doors, Led Zep; Sabbath, Floyd and Sgt Peppers at the time (Favorites of mine) as well the most acid of music ('War Pigs' is classic Hippie anti war sentiment in 1969; see Hendrix 'Star Spangled Banner'. LEARN some music history, you ignorant meme spewing cunt and stop just regurgitating crap you heard from others, it's embarrassing and worse spreads lies about what happened! Rolling Stone are crap aside from their support for Hunter S Thompson!
With the Korn one you should've put in the clip of Beavis and Butt-head reviewing the song "Blind" in which Beavis suddenly sounds intelligent in his review. And goes on that it "Lacks originality and it is very derivative of other bands like White Zombie and Suicidal tendencies and other bands that carry the mantle of so called 'Alternative rock.' "
A lot of these reviews for albums are the kind of reaction to something new or different. Back when these albums were released they didn't have the context of what these albums would become or what they would influence.
Music critics use to really piss on 80s and very early 90s alternative rock (along with metal but that's not what we're talking about). But then Nevermind came out and all the bands they use to give shit to suddenly became relevant and they all looked like fools.
This lead to critics giving middle of the road reviews on new things to play it safe, or sing the praises of shit in the hopes of looking like they're on the cutting edge.
TL;DR: Just buy music you like, and maybe read the critic reviews for laughs or fun.
Wow these critics are trash saying Freddy Mercury has a bad voice, I would like to see them sing as well as him
Chris Windham For reals though !
It’s true that Rolling Stone magazine dumped on every Led Zeppelin album !!
They gave Physical Graffiti a good review
Probably because by the time PG came out they knew they'd sound like total dumbasses if they continued to bash Zeppelin.
Not true
They gave Coda a good review.
HOW CAN YOU HATE QUEEN! I’m shook
Yeah smh
I hate "Bohemian Rhapsody"
But I love "We Will Rock You", "Hammer to Fall", "Seven Seas Of Rhye", "Keep Yourself Alive", "Princes of the Universe", "Another One Bites The Dust", "One Vision", "Under Pressure", and "Headlong"
@@jliller bohemain rhapsody is one of the but but I respect your opinion
How can you dislike an album that had a song titled Fat Bottom Girls on it!
Can't stand them. I don't like music that's "weird", just for the sake of being weird. It's also why I don't like Pink Floyd and most psychedelic music.
Rush was absolutely HATED by The Rolling Stone.
*Progressive Rock in general was hated by the stones. Maybe a higher up was jealous of people who could play instruments better than them!
Blind is the greatest opening song of all time. Makes people go apeshit
Tn Floose IKR
I disagree, I'll leave it at that
I love Blind as much as the Rolling Stone mag doesn't. However, I think Hail The Apocalypse by Avatar is the best opening track on any album ever.
EvilEats Bacon godamn right. That’s Awesome to see someone else feel that way.
Korn gets a 2/5 from me too
I like Corn better than that, but notice they took a review from the CALGARY HERALD? That's the only city in Canada where it's not weird to wear cowboy boots or hats, and it's the home of Canada's oil industry and biggest rodeo, think Canada's Houston. Duh Korn got a bad review, that's cherry picking.
Yeah, those ones they got right
Those writers/critics sound like me writing youtube comments when I wake up on the wrong side of the bed...
How could someone hate in pink Floyd?!?!
People who have never gotten stoned.
@@jliller I never got stoned. But i love Pink Floyd
I mean everything they said about Pinkerton is true but it's still good
It just didn't hold a candle to the blue album. I think people had high hopes another album like that.
The Conner's Channel IKR
Kind of. I guess it was an odd album coming from Weezer at the time. Still one of my favorites
Don’t listen to critics. It’s their literal JOB to hate on stuff.
BlazingFury They get paid to bitch at stuff
I don't think you actually know what a critic is
The cons will always outweigh the pros for them.
No it's their job to review stuff
Yeah, people usually critique things that they don't really understand. Sometimes they are right, but mostly the stuff they say is absolute bullsh1t
Having the phrase 'polluting ideals' on the screen while he's singing about having a good time is just... /chef's kiss
The pure, brutal contrast of the segueway from King Crimson to Korn completely shut me down for the day.
Will go to bed in order to sleep it off. Not setting the alarm. The body must recover at its own pace.
"Party anthems for agoraphobics" I wouldnt take that as an insult
I laughed when that crossed the screen. Whether it's accurate to that album or not it's a great line.
I mean, it’s true.
Critics trying to go "Look how smart mee eez !" and falling flat on their sanctimonious arse. A classic.
Literally just got High Voltage today before I saw the notification
The_Weasel_2012 If you don't like it, your name suits you. 😆 Only kidding dude.
Basically it sounds like the critics were an older generation just like when Jethro Tull beat out Metallica at the 89 Grammy
I just realized that '25 or 6 to 4' by Chicago lifts the riff from 'Babe I'm Gonna Leave You'.
Put on what you like and TURN IT UP!