The underdog wins against a spammer character proving little macs not a bad character and a little kid gets brutalized in the end truly all is right in the world
SpiceYourLife You haven’t played the game enough kid. Try fighting the best players you can possibly find as Fox or a Shoto. Online eats a lot of inputs and the lag completely changes the game
@@PassTheMic2006 been hearing that the lag makes precision inputs harder for the “higher tier” characters but I’d argue that getting mac’s recoveries require some precision inputs
@@jgamez106 Fair enough. By the way, I don’t hate tier lists, but I feel like a character’s worth and viability shouldn’t depend on a tier list, and only on a tier list. Yeah Little Mac isn’t that good and Joker and ZSS have some great tools, but at the end of the day, the character doesn’t matter that much and it mostly comes down to the player’s fundamentals and skill level.
Facts. This Ness decimated a whole bracket to get here. He had decent fundamentals, but by no means did he seem prepared to fight a skilled Little Mac. He is questionable, but not weak. Definitely a matter of inexperience or underestimation, but that’s part of the charm of Little Mac. You don’t have to underestimate him for him to have a chance. Hence the 2-0.
You can't grab what you can't touch. Instead of assuming Ness played bad, look closer at the match. Mac is controlling neutral and limiting Ness' options. If he misses a grab, that a free high percentage punish for Mac and death at 80 or above. That's one of the key elements in good Mac gameplay. They control the match. It's also weak that people can never give a Mac the win. He did GoOD BuT OnLY beCauSE NeSS pLAyed bAd 🤦♂️
The thing about super armor though is in smash 4 I agree with you but in Smash Ultimate the end lag if you whiff a smash attack makes you vulnerable so even with the super armor you still need to be tactical of when to use it.
Little mac the under dog of his own tier list. Those who main him find enjoyment in always having to give it a 110% to win a match. Now that being said nothing is more frustrating then being gimped on a new stock, or spam projectile from across the stage. I'm not saying make him the lord of the sky, I am saying if this man cant fly make him a Lord of the lands. Make his Ground game the best. Balancing Little Mac Steps 1. Give his Side B super armor so he can recover and not be gypped. That or allow him to use it again if he is hit. Followed up with up B sooner would help greatly. 2. Change his neutral B into something that can be charged and held. Giving him the ability to recover. 3. Less ending lag on his moves so that when he attacks a player and they simply shield they are not able to grab him so easily. That or make it so his moves push him farther away from his opponent. 4. Give him a special mechanic when he spot dodges, perfect shields that he gets something special that follows more with his game. ( Examples) Spot dodges= temporary faster smash attack Spot dodges= strong tilt Spot dodges= charges up for a KO punch. Perfect Shields= stronger Smash attack Perfect shields= charges up KO punch Perfect shields = more knockback Perfect shields projectile = able to shrug off one project Perfect shields multi attacks= temp gains browsers big boy perk. These are all just ideas that could be worked around or even better ideas. 5. Better frames in his dodges (Getting grabbed in mid dodge sucks....) 6. Being able to get on a platform without using two jumps. 7. A better counter that's not going to kill you if it's used in the air. Maybe make it so Little Mac automatically counters back towards the stage other then flinging him into the abyss. 8. Redoing his Up B would be amazing so he does not go into free fall when used would allow him to use his Side B and Up B to recover in different ways. 9. Less end lag when landing back on stage would allows him shield projectile better or dodge faster.
Wait, Grand Finals was a best of 3? Is that just how The Grind works? That's so weird to me. I'm glad Peanut won but I was not expecting a 6 minute set lol.
I’m not a Little Mac fan or anything, but it is kinda strange seeing him at the bottom tier. I realize his air game isn’t there, but if you make your opponent play your way, make em come to the ground, Macs speed and power should make up enough for his lack of recovery and air game. At least enough to consider him something other than being the very worst character, oh well
@@kyresd Which means he requires the most skill to utilize. Every character in a tier above him are easier carries. I have more respect for a Mac main than I do for a Marth main.
LZL's problem was that he threw out PK Fires way too much when it wasn't necessary. Like using one while he was on the ground but Peanut was on a platform was just asking for a big punish
@@Sioniz Matchups do make it more difficult, but not impossible; they don't automatically decide who wins. No one plays frame-perfect 100% of the time, and anyone can be outplayed.
Bruh this guy has ttv in the name like I’m trying to go watch ness main 46574838 play in more online tourney sets, that’s the last thing I’m tying to do
Little Mac has always been a character I never really minded. Never loved him, never hated him. But Peanut? I really like that guy. This is a scenario where I don’t mind the character, but my love goes mostly to the player.
No air game and easy to edge guard and ledge trap and most macs dont know how to recover with mac that well And the stereotypical mac player spams smash attacks so he has a really bad reputation
we did it boys
Amazing play you did great, congratulaion
Great job Peanut! Happy for your progress man, keep on going!
Nasty
So happy for you bro. I knew you could do it. Dope ass win man. LITTLE MAC MAINS RISE UP
I remember some days ago where you were kinda down..
Glad you continued, always knew you could do it !
It’s so fitting that maining Little Mac automatically makes you the underdog.
True
Of course mac is a flawed character heavily flawed
Solid point
The underdog wins against a spammer character proving little macs not a bad character and a little kid gets brutalized in the end truly all is right in the world
5:58 The ness Player will never know how close to death that was, because that was a grounded KO with perfect execution, peanut always a beast 🥊🥊
The funny part is he literally walked away
🥊🥊
It's like he knew what Peanut wanted. You don't just casually wait at ledge and walk away WITHOUT SHIELDING. LzGlowz had a hunch, and it was right.
LET'S GO MAC
As a Mac main, I got hyped seeing Peanut play him so well
If only he can teach me how to Truly mac
Never thought I’d see the day where a mac is in finals
Little Mac mains, *rise.*
I’ve played peanut and he’s the most fearless Mac player I’ve ever seen
Grr
Macs are more than capable of making it to finals. It's like people have never play Mac and realized his onstage presence is monstrous.
@@thebluetornado6185 you could say Little Mac Is underrated
Favorite part was 5:51. The hop over the yo-yo to punish was amazing
The ftilt was supposed to be a dafsmash but I misinputed
Mine was 5:43 that pk fire dodge to point blank up smash got my blood pumping
"Magic is cheating, you can't cheat in boxing so no magic."
Great Tiger: *Laughs in Hindi*
A Little Mac in Grands?
Ok but no way he wins
😲😲😲
@Bryan BD Interesting
Him just beating the crap out of ness...brought me so much joy :D
I know its online, but it's still damn impressive to win a Grand Finals with Mac.
Because is online is invalid?! Cmon that's being a dick man!
SpiceYourLife Online skews the results heavily, and that’s a fact. A mac would never win irl
@@faded9581 that's BS! You can play with any character, sure online has a small lag but not enough to make a change of that magnitude.
SpiceYourLife You haven’t played the game enough kid. Try fighting the best players you can possibly find as Fox or a Shoto. Online eats a lot of inputs and the lag completely changes the game
@@faded9581 I agree with the online part, but don't underestimate my boi peanut.
Finally. Someone who actually knows how to play Little Mac.
peanut’s mac might just be my favorite one yet. they really mastered the usage of those tilts
Peanut's been doing WORK! Nice try with the gazelle punch. Catching fairs to further disadvantage, jab mix-ups going crazy, and that plat movement!
I see peanut and I feel happy
😊
Yes Peanut is BACK!
Big win for Mac. Don’t care if it’s online. Proves any character can win
Since when did it matter if it was online or offline?
Pass The Mic When people needed more excuses for why a Little Mac got so far. Everyone loves to hate on the Mac after all
@@chyguy3776 Ah right. Gotcha.
@@PassTheMic2006 been hearing that the lag makes precision inputs harder for the “higher tier” characters but I’d argue that getting mac’s recoveries require some precision inputs
@@jgamez106 Fair enough. By the way, I don’t hate tier lists, but I feel like a character’s worth and viability shouldn’t depend on a tier list, and only on a tier list. Yeah Little Mac isn’t that good and Joker and ZSS have some great tools, but at the end of the day, the character doesn’t matter that much and it mostly comes down to the player’s fundamentals and skill level.
I see little mac, I watch
We protecc, we attacc, but most importantly, our recovery is as bad as hecc. -little Mac main
John Ruiz That’s doesn’t even rhyme but okay
Faded idc
not when you have a wall, LMs wall jump distance is pretty high
@@Dan_om3 still bad recovery
Nah you just don’t know how to use it
I see you Peanut. Great stuff!
"No magic in boxing"
Laughs in Great Tiger
Never thought I'd enjoy watching a kid get punched in the face... Then I met Ness.
LET'S GO! I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO SEE A LITTLE MAC MAIN WIN A TOURNAMENT! (Coming from a DK/Piranha Plant main)
Good little mac but that Ness is questionable. He was playing neutral pretty weak.
i think the ness, although had a better matchup against little mac, had almost no experience against a good little mac player
@@eisanotatsujin can't blame him, little Mac is as common as good mobile games.
Especially in competitive
Facts.
This Ness decimated a whole bracket to get here. He had decent fundamentals, but by no means did he seem prepared to fight a skilled Little Mac.
He is questionable, but not weak. Definitely a matter of inexperience or underestimation, but that’s part of the charm of Little Mac. You don’t have to underestimate him for him to have a chance. Hence the 2-0.
Never before have I heard a commentator say “Mac is cheating” 😆
Great little Mac. I think Ness shouldve grabbed more.
You can't grab what you can't touch. Instead of assuming Ness played bad, look closer at the match. Mac is controlling neutral and limiting Ness' options. If he misses a grab, that a free high percentage punish for Mac and death at 80 or above.
That's one of the key elements in good Mac gameplay. They control the match. It's also weak that people can never give a Mac the win. He did GoOD BuT OnLY beCauSE NeSS pLAyed bAd 🤦♂️
@@LuvMehSi Which is also why pk fire cane out so much :(
Even though I'm half of a Ness main, this match up still puts a smile on my face.
The KO punch taunt at the end was great!
The thing about super armor though is in smash 4 I agree with you but in Smash Ultimate the end lag if you whiff a smash attack makes you vulnerable so even with the super armor you still need to be tactical of when to use it.
Little mac the under dog of his own tier list.
Those who main him find enjoyment in always having to give it a 110% to win a match. Now that being said nothing is more frustrating then being gimped on a new stock, or spam projectile from across the stage. I'm not saying make him the lord of the sky, I am saying if this man cant fly make him a Lord of the lands. Make his Ground game the best.
Balancing Little Mac
Steps
1. Give his Side B super armor so he can recover and not be gypped. That or allow him to use it again if he is hit. Followed up with up B sooner would help greatly.
2. Change his neutral B into something that can be charged and held. Giving him the ability to recover.
3. Less ending lag on his moves so that when he attacks a player and they simply shield they are not able to grab him so easily. That or make it so his moves push him farther away from his opponent.
4. Give him a special mechanic when he spot dodges, perfect shields that he gets something special that follows more with his game.
( Examples)
Spot dodges= temporary faster smash attack
Spot dodges= strong tilt
Spot dodges= charges up for a KO punch.
Perfect Shields= stronger Smash attack
Perfect shields= charges up KO punch
Perfect shields = more knockback
Perfect shields projectile = able to shrug off one project
Perfect shields multi attacks= temp gains browsers big boy perk.
These are all just ideas that could be worked around or even better ideas.
5. Better frames in his dodges (Getting grabbed in mid dodge sucks....)
6. Being able to get on a platform without using two jumps.
7. A better counter that's not going to kill you if it's used in the air. Maybe make it so Little Mac automatically counters back towards the stage other then flinging him into the abyss.
8. Redoing his Up B would be amazing so he does not go into free fall when used would allow him to use his Side B and Up B to recover in different ways.
9. Less end lag when landing back on stage would allows him shield projectile better or dodge faster.
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@@Peanut_SSBU your content is great, keep it up bro. rep the mac mains, show them we're mid-tier at worst
Wait, Grand Finals was a best of 3? Is that just how The Grind works? That's so weird to me. I'm glad Peanut won but I was not expecting a 6 minute set lol.
I’m not a Little Mac fan or anything, but it is kinda strange seeing him at the bottom tier. I realize his air game isn’t there, but if you make your opponent play your way, make em come to the ground, Macs speed and power should make up enough for his lack of recovery and air game. At least enough to consider him something other than being the very worst character, oh well
Mac isn't bad he's just the worst.
@@kyresd Which means he requires the most skill to utilize. Every character in a tier above him are easier carries. I have more respect for a Mac main than I do for a Marth main.
PEANUT IS THE GOAT
Was that a Little Mac 2-0 in Grand Finals?? Against a Ness main?? Fuuuuuuck
How does a back air beat out a superarmour smash attack? Was it due to the percentage peanut was at?
LZL's problem was that he threw out PK Fires way too much when it wasn't necessary. Like using one while he was on the ground but Peanut was on a platform was just asking for a big punish
Is this actually grands?
Seems like it.
Swiss bracket
wheres my big mac, its been 5 years since i ordered it
Lil mac... Hidden high tier?
Every character can be high tier if ure good they used to say jigglypuff was shit tier
@@yeflynne A yes, because if You're good enough with Ganondorf you can win any and every Major. Very true indeed.
@@Sioniz I sense sarcasm on your part, but technically... yes!
@@potato5150 It's Sarcasm, and no, the best ganon won't win Every major. Do you realize how bad the Ganon vs Pikachu Match is?
@@Sioniz Matchups do make it more difficult, but not impossible; they don't automatically decide who wins. No one plays frame-perfect 100% of the time, and anyone can be outplayed.
“Mac upb is surprisingly strong”
Hmm
I'm just sitting here like "No, it really isn't, dude was at 90 and took all the hits", it's laughably weak
Peanut finally did it 0/
AYYY IT'S PEANUT!!!
Bruh this guy has ttv in the name like I’m trying to go watch ness main 46574838 play in more online tourney sets, that’s the last thing I’m tying to do
"mac's up-B is pretty strong"
fails to kill a small child at like 120%
I admire Peanut. He probably gets a lot of snooty players condescending him but I don’t think he cares.
Close range only, gg
COME ON PEANUT
Wheres sol at with his mac
Wtf I didn’t know peanut used to be a pikachu plush
everybody a mac fan in the comments but do you actually like this character????
Little Mac has always been a character I never really minded. Never loved him, never hated him. But Peanut? I really like that guy. This is a scenario where I don’t mind the character, but my love goes mostly to the player.
A grand Finals with no views...Quarantine really is reminding me people why they hate this game’s online, huh?
Or the community died cause of pedos lol
Maybe it's also because it's a grand finals which isn't a best of 5? for some reason?
I've tried to watch this three times now and I can't get halfway without falling asleep
Lets fucking go I hate ness
I main little mac and 5:15 are enormous plays!!!!
*checks date* huh it’s not april fools... *clicks on video*
Ness when in a pinch
PK FIRE
PK FIRE
PK FIRE
PK FIRE
Ness when he's leading
PK FIRE
PK FIRE
PK FIRE
PK FIRE
Why is it 2-0 if it’s grand it should be 3 wins not 2 ?
Best of 3
Go Peanut!
Why is mac considered bot tier?
No air game and easy to edge guard and ledge trap and most macs dont know how to recover with mac that well
And the stereotypical mac player spams smash attacks so he has a really bad reputation
Peanut make me play more with Mac
4:14
Can someone explain to me the obsession tourneys have with this god awful remix of Gladion's theme?
Even commentators have lag
respect the nuttr
I would rather pick LittleMac to win!
It’s not lil mac winning. It’s about ness losing
The Ness was just mashing the entire time. Not gonna work against someone with a brain. Kinda had no business being in the finals.
ness stood no chance
Peanuttty
A best of 3 grand finals? Lol grats to peanut
I hate Ness. That PK Fire bullshit is one of the most broken bullshit moves in the game. 😑
Imagine losing to Little Mac as Ness...
So you're saying that you'd beat Peanut's Lil Mac? 🤔
Skill > tier
Get rekt
Pk fire spamer!
terrible commentary
Zzzz
I always love seeing Mac play, the patience you must have and the calmness off stage bruh