Koleda post bug fix showcase: she is now STUNNINGLY good! | Zenless Zone Zero Shiyu 16
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- So word has been spreading that Koleda is now "buffed" after the bug fix to her core passive, so here is a showcase. I must say... She stuns the enemy so fast now it's actually insane!
Reddit post: / koleda_got_a_massive_b...
Though, I do need to point out that my Koleda is M3 so that may slightly affect how fast she stuns the boss here, but barring that, there is still a very noticeable difference in her stunning capabilities as compared to before. Do give her a try if you have her, she is now worth building for sure!
Also some tips from my observation: she has i-frames while in the air (4th basic attack) and also during her EX skill animation after her 2nd basic attack as she is slamming her hammer down. So use that to your advantage! If you know anymore tips feel free to share in the comments.
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I literally thought it was my skill issue for not being able to use her. Like, Ellen could put enemies on daze much faster than Koleda, despite being an attack agent. I didn't realize it was a bug
2:12 pain 💀
lmao 💀
I fucking love koleda 😭
I love the aggressive feeling of this comment
It's kinda crazy how big the bug was, 100 polychrome kinda not enough if I'm being honest considering how sluggish her gameplay was because of it and left a bad impression on a lot of new players.
I didn't know there was a bug, and I've been having her in the team ever since. What was the bug anyways?
Oh nevermind it's in the description
so far as a purely f2p i got early fire team (soldier 11 koleda (with c1 now lol) and lucy
and they made koleda barely playable with her bug, and lucy didnt work all day long with ult just doing nothing (and they are my only built characters)
yet i got 100 poly as compensation only lol, in wuwa all i had to suffer was some stutter because i was playing on HDD and some sound bug for 1 boss battle and i got like 20 pulls for it
ZZZ is fun for sure, but the way they treat us players made sure i'll stay f2p if i stick with the game, they dont deserve any cent from me
@ganyumaindayone1112 Except those two aren't comparable in the slightest. Wuwas issues wasn't just "some stutter" it was outright unplayable for nearly half the playerbase, constant and egregious translation errors to the point where they almost scammed the Japanese playerbase, and numerous other technical issues. The fire team bug was unfortunate but not even remotely in the same ballpark as Wuwas disasterous launch.
Edit: Also those 20 pulls you mentioned were all standard pulls, not even limited pulls
And Hoyo is pretty a big company with a consolidated place in the market. They dont need to give a lot of freebies to be relevant like Kuro is. Not saying Wuwa is bad btw, just trying to open your mind or something, so you can see things differently.
Gosh I felt bad getting her as my first 5 star, because in gameplay I felt like anby has better stun. I think I need to try her again
I was needing to do the whole attack string to stun some normal enemies before. Now using EX on the 2nd hit is usually enough to stun them. It's feel way better and nice to use her now
It was about time for the fire hammer to cook🔥🔥🔥
I think she’s twice as good now
She is
Wouldn't it be more than just twice? Since now it's +60% instead of -60% daze buildup.
So this is why I can stun immediately with her alone, I always bring ben to add the daze because of how slow she stuns an enemy 👍🏻
now give 1,600 polychrome please or 5 pulls worth it made a bad impression on her as a S class
ohhh i wish i can pull for her in the standard banner next.... i really like ben and her combo atks and animations, i wish hoyo will make more animated combos
i almost regret getting her ... i like her as a character/personality and character design... she had bug? no wonder Koleda is so hard to use... she feels slow/her stun is slow
i'll try to use her again
Apparently her core passive was decreasing her daze buildup instead of increasing it. She should feel much more potent now
Yeah she feels so weak in the story mission due to the bug
Best stunner at least for now.
Is your Piper C0?
@@shofu she's c6 :(
As a normal player
I didn't even know she was bugged lmfao. I've been using her for basically everything so far. I'm still far from having enough to do shiyu past 6 tho
I don't think it a bug you guys are complaining for no reason smh If it was a bug, why would you guys want it to be fix
She is ALWAYS good 😂
how valuable is butler on that team? i got him thinking butler would be the most universal one and then i was planning on getting sharkboo for my ellen team, but not sure if something like bangvolver would provide significantly more value to the phys/assault team instead
@@zephyrims I see butler as somewhat a universal option too, to me I feel that extra energy is always nice. For a phys team I guess bangvolver could be better. But in your situation I would pick sharkboo first for Ellen team and use butler for your phys team for now until you get bangvolver in the future
@@fattyflip4168 yeah I wasn't sure which upgrade would have a larger impact myself, thank you for the input!!
Resonabo> all
If piper is this good, I can't wait for Jane to crit anomaly lol
Would you say Butlerboo is a must for this team (considering the energy usage) or could you also use a Bangboo that helps apply burn like Rocketboo?
I refused to use her before because I feel she is very clunky and wondering why she take so much time to stun enemy. I guess now Koleda is the same tier as Lycaon as stunner.
would you say this is piper's best disorder team or is it on par with grace? and is nekomata even comparable to what piper can do
@@bookmarker2891 I would argue that grace + piper + rina is a better team because of much bigger disorder numbers with grace being an anomaly unit herself.
As for neko, I've been seeing her together with Piper on the same team with Lucy, so the team focuses mainly on assault rather than disorder
Do you think she can function with Lucy and Ben in the party? I haven’t even managed to roll any form of dps unit 😂
I have grace but doesn’t seem to pair nicely when I tried koleda grace Lucy
Mono fire with Lucy and Ben is pretty legit
Wtf is that boss made from?
Cause 100k didn't even bend it's hp bar that much 💀
galvanized steel
Oooh so that’s why she kinda sucked at stunning before 😹
How was she bugged before?
@@nathanco8488 apparently her core passive reduced her daze instead of increasing it
@@fattyflip4168 lmao thats hilarious
And i thought shes already that good before... @@fattyflip4168
So this is why she's so bad when i tried her in story mode.
Could you explain your rotation for this team? I also decided to build them since I lost my 50/50 to Koleda, but I feel like I'm not really playing them correctly
Sure! Keep in mind there may be better rotations out there but I feel comfortable with how I'm playing her at the moment. This post is about to be long so I'm going to split into multiple replies.
Team order: Lucy → Koleda → Piper
(1)
I start with Lucy and use her skill (you can tap or hold, either one is fine, but holding her skill has a 99.9% hit rate while tapping her skill may miss)
After Lucy lands her skill, this will trigger Koleda quick assist which gap closes you to the enemy (very useful tech), then I usually do 2x basic followed by an immediate EX skill to gain the Furnace Fire buff (this buff powers up your subsequent basic attacks)
(2)
Then I either repeat the same 2x basic into skill, or I can choose to do 4x basic into skill which has higher multipliers, but also has a chance to whiff if the enemy decides to just run away (see video 2:12). So you have to anticipate and react accordingly. Keep doing this until boss is stunned.
(3)
Once boss is stunned, do your chain attacks. I always do Lucy → Koleda → Piper for chain attacks as I want everyone to get Lucy's buff. Piper then spins until you run out of energy.
At this point I will swap immediately to Lucy and I repeat the rotation again from (1)
Not every fight will be the same because different enemies behave differently, so just adapt accordingly!
@@fattyflip4168not sure if you're already aware, but holding Lucy's EX skill actually increases the buff duration from 10 seconds to 15 seconds. There are of course still situations where tapping is more advantageous since her hold skill can take a while to touch down, thus delaying the quick assist prompt and leaving Lucy vulnerable, but it can be useful to get a little more out of her buff
Is this Koleda's best team comp atm? I have this team but also Soldier 11
Koleda works in S11 comp as well, she functions mainly as a stunner so whichever team that needs a stunner, she will fill that role perfectly!
@@fattyflip4168 Thanks! Was just wondering which is stronger but I'll probably invest in Soldier 11 then
Why didn't you use Ben? I thought that him and koleda were basically and inserperble duo when it came to team combs, having their combos extent and play of one another alongside giving crit rate and helping with daze
@@toasty3977 Ben is good but I prefer Piper's playstyle more
Is it worth it to put her in same team with Ben to proc her passive?
Her effectiveness increases with Ben in the team!
How do yall get strong so fast 😭😭 u couldn’t s clear like 2 days ago how u already clearing everything
If it makes you feel any better, I spent money on the game, did max energy refreshes daily, all that "p2w" stuff
@@fattyflip4168 no not that where’s the strength coming from ..is it like artifacts or leveling skills or is there a huge buff from lvl 40-50
@@Young_Mon Artifacts definitely play a huge part I must say. Choosing the right main stat is important.
E.g. For Piper you want Anomaly Proficiency main stat on slot 4, and Anomaly Mastery on slot 6.
Things like that.
@@fattyflip4168 so I’m lvl 39 now how is the disc farm at lvl 40 is it all gold rewards or gold and purple ..want to know so I’ll decide if I prefarm ascension mats or just keep farming artifacts for now..at lvl 39 it’s gold and purple
@@Young_Mon no differences at 40 for disk farm
And now Lucy's Ult doesn't hit the enemies. Is it just me, or does everyone get this bug?
I've seen ps5 players reporting the same on reddit. So it's not just you. More compensation polys incoming~
Oh, so it's just not me being a noob. This is the first time I've used Lucy and I'm wondering if something is happening when it whiffed TWO TIMES when I used her in one commission.
i didnt know she was bugged, can u explain wut the fix buffed?
@@nathanielr.9121 her core passive used to reduce her daze instead of increasing it
How does she compare to lycaon? I lost my 50/50 to him 😢
@@andrewistryinghisbest2366 on par I would say
Does she stun faster with Ben in the team, rather than Lucy?
Yes she stuns faster with Ben, but only for some attacks.
@@fattyflip4168 I see. That's great. Btw, what weapon are you using for Koleda?
@@prinsiplecallofduty5708 I'm using her signature weapon
Why does her hair glow??
@@eliasdailey3911 it's a special effect that you get from equipping her signature weapon
@@fattyflip4168 is that it? Or is there anything else
Would koleda be a good replacement if i don't have lycaon for an ellen team?
@@apotsumtudnum9071 I don't see why not. What is your other team by the way?
@@fattyflip4168 My main team right now is grace koleda anton, i have enough pull to gurantee ellen since i got grace for my very first pull in limited banner but currently saving up the currency for Zhu Yuan because i haven't get Lycaon so far. What do you think? Should i wait for Zhu Yuan or go for Ellen instead? My current S lineup is Grace, Koleda C1 and Grace's W-Engine
@@fattyflip4168 my main team rn is Grace, Koleda, Anton. I can gurantee ellen since i got grace in the very first pull on limited and have enough for a guranteed Ellen but im saving it for Zhu Yuan since i haven't gotten Lycaon yet. My current S lineups are Grace, Koleda C1, and Grace's W-Engine. Wdyt? Should i wait for Zhu Yuan or pull for Ellen?
@@apotsumtudnum9071 i would go grace, anton, anby for one team and then Ellen soukaku koleda for the other
@@fattyflip4168 thoughts on Zhu Yuan?
….. shiyu critical 5 S
your either rich or out of your mind😦
Do you think she stun faster than Lycaon?
@@sdfPZXC I will say she is somewhat on par, just my opinion based on my gameplay with her since the fix!
She can stun mini bosses with single skill if you have proper discs equipped