Let's Look at...CENTERPOINT Crossbows!
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
- Our second most requested crossbow manufacturer to look at...Centerpoint crossbows! So here goes!
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Bunjie is a 2010 Excalibur Axiom Crossbow. After a decade of killing deer, hogs, squirrels--you name it!--with the "stock" 20" Easton Firebolt arrows, Bunjie experimented with heavy arrows during 2020 but has since decided to hunt with 20" ProFlight arrows from Easton, for a total arrow weight of just under 400 grains when tipped with a 100 grain Rage Crossbow Hypodermic Broadhead. This keeps old Bunjie around 300fps.
Bunjie, Jr., is my daughter Genevieve's crossbow, an Excalibur Micro Suppressor 355. She also shoots ProFlights (16.5" variety) with a 150 grain Rage Trypan Crossbow Broadhead, for a total arrow weight around 415 grains.
I am in the process of upgrading Bunjie in favor a more modern crossbow. I am looking to continue to perfect my preferred hunting strategies with a new crossbow by my side. That Quest for Bunjie's Successor should be complete by summer of 2021.
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The reverse draw they’re talking about is the string comes back “inside” the pulleys instead of traditional outside the pulleys, another reason the string angle is so sharp
Great, pinned comment for all to see, thanks!
It should say "Reverse Cam" not Reverse Draw. A true reverse draw is something like a Scorpyd.
Centerpoint makes a good crossbow, very accurate for no more than they cost!
most of them are rebranded man kungs.
Im hunting with the Centerpoint Wrath 430! I absolutely love it! Super fast, accurate and quiet! LOVE IT!!!!!!
Awesome!!
Love my centerpoint sniper 370. Very good consumer friendly option. I did have a limb split out first season I had it contacted crossman they sent replacement set of limbs no questions asked whole conversation lasted about 10 mins excellent customer service amd that means a lot now days.
I own a Center Point Amp 415. The stock scope was removed before I left the store. I had a Vortex Crossfire II illuminated scope installed. I must say, I love my Amp415. It's excellent value. It's quiet, and accurate. All around great value. I added a carbon fiber bipod and other minor goodies. It's been reliable thus far. Very good all around crossbow and excellent bang for the buck! Keep in mind Center Point is under the same banner as Ravin. Center Point has a promising future with Ravin technology in their tool box. Depending upon wind speeds I've been able to get a 4-6 inch grouping at 100yards.
Btw, Great Channel. My wife and I both enjoy your videos. Cheers from Alberta Canada 🇨🇦 👍
Ten point request #5
#6
Your channel is genius, and I do mean that with all do respect.
Wow, thank you!
Arrow details yes! We need this.
I have a centerpoint amped 415. Love it!
First crossbow, love it
I just got home and flopped down on the couch, thinking... Wouldn't it be great if there was a Bunjie video today. He should do Fridays. And what to my surprise did appear?! Nice :)
I own a center point daggar and sniper. Both are fabulous crossbows that are extremely accurate and powerful!
Hi Rich, really enjoying this look at all the crossbow offerings. Looking at the Center Point home page they have a CP 400 that has the same basic profile with an adjustable stock.
Center point uses victory bolts. Their specs are with 316 grain and 100 grain point. When my 370 chronoed it was actually 364 average so the numbers are close
I love this video series about the search for Bunjie the 2nd! I hope you plan to look at Wicked Ridge. I’ve never owned a crossbow - but used your advice and a few other videos to purchase an Invader 400. Haven’t even fired it yet
I have the Center Point Dagger 390 I bought it 4 days before archery season began and I love it it very quick and very accurate I shot a doe at 30yds my arrows are all at 400 Gn and I weighed all and got them right at 400 gn
I bought my wife and I each the centerpoint cp400 we love them the only downfalls are the triggers. once you get used to them they aren’t that bad. We went from an Excalibur matrix bulldog 400 and a wicked ridge lady ranger.
JUSt bOUGht MY 1st bOW, Centerpoint AMPEd 425 Power Draw Crossbow 4x32 scope,. For the $$$ Don't Think i CUdA SPENT ANY MORE hOURs Listening To YOU n everyone else n settled on the Centerpoint AMPEd 425,
Both the Centerpoint Sniper 370, and Heat 415 I purchased came with the same model 4X32 Centerpoint scope. The scope seemed fine, but I replaced it with a Hawke crossbow scope. Very happy with the Centerpoint crossbows though.
I shoot a center point 415 I really enjoy it it's easy to cock and really accurate with the factory scope at 40 yards I have shoot targets out to 50 and the arrows were only 1 - 11/2 inches apart free hand
Hey Rich , been watching your videos for years and everyone I watch seems to catch my attention . You have good content and interesting points on all the topics that you explain to us , as my dad would say you have a knack to gap . By the way I have a Scorpyd crossbow and love it , very accurate out to 50 yards , but the limbs are a bet wide. PS -- I mess seeing lighting bolts on the intro !
Lightning lol, thanks for this and thanks for watching
I have a Centerpoint Dagger 390 and I am impressed by the power this crossbow delivers. The Centerpoint optics leave a lot to be desired...I replaced mine with an Leapers model. I have to use two target blocks when I shoot broadheads(Montec G5 125 gr) and they sometimes make it through both. The blackout target is rated for bows up to 400 fps, but it will not stop bolts from the Dagger. Last year was my first season hunting with a crossbow, but I did not get a chance to take a deer, so I cannot comment on the effectiveness while hunting. Accuracy is very good...I practice with 3/4" orange stickers and can hit them out to 30 yards. My first shot with this crossbow was at a target on top of two milk crates and it was low. The bolt went through 4 layers of hard plastic and was only caught by the vanes in the second crate.
When looking at string angle, you might want to consider TenPoint’s Alpha-Nock. They’re a little bit “pricey “, but a great idea for less wear on strings and servings. Just a thought. Good luck with whatever you choose. Great video.
Rich. I bought my nephew a Centerpoint 370 a few years ago. It was his first Xbow and I think it was under $300. He killed his first buck with it that year and several more deer since. It is very accurate and very fast. The scope and trigger is where they lack. That being said, for a low cost entry into xbows, it is impressive. So much so, the kid saved up money for an upgrade and still won’t get another, he just upgraded the scope.
I have a center point dagger 390 and it’s awesome
Nice. North East Pennsylvania. Same here! Lancaster Archery has most of these bows you mentioned
I bout the amped 415 as my first crossbow. Ive hunted archery for about 23 yrs but decided to try out the crossbow world and didnt want to spend $1500 incase i didn't like it. I have to say after my first year with it i love it. I used it for rifle season and spring gobbler as well. I have to say that you get all the perks of the higher end bows with a budget price. May up grade this coming year to a more compact and lighter crossbow.
Scope that came with my centerpoint seemed cheaper I didnt mount it just put an ar style red dot zeroed in at 35 yards and anything 40 and under its a tack driver amd where I hunt its rare to get a shot over 40 anyways so im good lol
I had a gladiator 405 and loved it had the string replaced and they did it incorrectly and broke the crossbow the replacement I got was a 415 amped. Both of them are extremely accurate and love them both. I ended up taking the scope off the gladiator and putting it on the amped because I didn't like their "new" style of scope
I bought the Ten Point S400 Viper. Love the crank cocking/de-cocking, weight, price. Shooting 385-390 with 100g Rage Hypodermic.
Sweet!!!
I also purchased a Centerpoint Amped 415 last year and I like it much better than the Barnett DOA that it replaced. I've had no problem with the scope out to 50 yards.
Reverse draw means the string is on the far side of the cams. You get a couple more inches of power stroke when it’s configured that way.
I look forward to all your videos. As for Centerpoint, there appears to be some inconsistencies on their website, you’d think they would get the details right. That said, people really like the CP400. My money is still on you becoming a Sub 1 owner! Keep ‘em coming Sir!
A little thing about Centerpoint. I had thought about getting one and they had a bunch of new models coming out in 2021. I emailed them to ask when these would be available, That was a month ago compared to two days when I emailed SEVR. I'm looking forward to you looking at the Assassin 400TD. It has everything you want, smaller stature, 400 fps, easy maintenance, and a built in cocking sled.
My Center point Patriot has a Center Point scope w/multiple cross hairs and it has worked flawlessly
reverse draw is string come off the inside of the cam or bottom of the cam depending on how you want to say it. Bullpup trigger is the trigger is in front of the cocking mechanism and uses linkages between to cocking mechanism to fire the crossbow when you pull the trigger.
Hey Rich! Good video! U.I.A. deals in Centerpoints, KI, Excal, Ravin and Axe. 👍
They might call it reverse draw since when uncocked the string is in front of the cams and the cams turn in...?
I really enjoy your content, please keep it up. I've been into archery for many years, and shoot personally a compound bow, now that my age has caught up with me, and have back with shoulder issues, I've been considering getting into crossbows. I've been following your crossbow reviews very closely, and find them very interesting loaded with info which is good. This is only my opinion, but you have a excalibur recurve, and regardless of all the bells, and whistles that come with compound crossbow models. I personally would want to stay with something simple like the newer models from excalibur recurve crossbows which comes with less tuning tinkering as one would have with a compound, plus recurves have less issues that one may have to deal with in a pinch situation. I'm personally looking strongly into excalibur recurve crossbows.
Nothing wrong with that, good points, but no harm in looking at others. I wanna make sure I consider all options for sure, will be doing excal soon
i got a centerpoint 405 gladiator few years back but now i have a killer instinct speed 425 i use the same crank system from the centerpoint on my killer instinct and it works great
How do you like the center point? I've got a Barnett whitetail hunter str and kinda wish I'd gotten a center point.
@@lanaholmes7098 i really like it i put the Instinct LUMIX SPEEDRING Scope an its awesome
I love my Sniper Elite 370. Tack driver at a great price point. Took my last two bucks with it and the last one was a tough shot where he was looking right at me and had a large branch covering part of his vitals. I had to put the bolt into a spot the size of a silver dollar at 20 yards and he made it maybe 20 yards before expiring.
Oh yeah that's great!
Most other centerpoints have adjustable stocks, quivers that can be put on either side and fore grips that can be moved.
Watching through your videos, as I plan on xbow hunting this season (laws permitting) and your videos are just amazing! Second watching the hogzilla video, me personally I wouldn't want a xbow I couldn't cock manually if I had to. I have a 175 lb draw weight xbow and it's closing in on the limit of what I can do without a cocking rope or other device. I just feel better about it.
The reverse draw actually is reverse cam design. I just purchased the 430 X instead of the bull pup design it has the ar15 style stock and adjustable for length. I did put the Vortex crossfire 2 with speed ring. Chronographs at around 410 fps with 400 gr bolt. Very accurate 1inch groups to 50 yrds. So far I'm very happy. Been watching it for a while and Amazon had a really good buy at just over $400 so i made the purchase as other sites went from $550 to $700. Gonna be a long wait till 2024 season but i will be ready !!
I have a Centerpoint amped 415 killed 2 deer and 2 turkey with it last rear. I absolutely love it 152lbs of kinetic energy
$400
I can keep a quarter size group at 50 yards
Also, the adjustable stock on the Amped 415 failed 😞 after only one season of hunting so whatever you decide on DO NOT GET AN ADJUSTABLE STOCK!! Lol did I say that loud enough? Have a blessed day today Rich and thank you for the informative videos!!
The CP400 comes with the Ravin's HeliCoil technology! Most don't know that Velocity Outdoors recently bought Ravin out! They make Centerpoint crossbows as well. You can buy a new CP400 with the Ravin HeliCoil technology for $650!
Indeed, good stuff!
Friend of mine I hunt with has the sniper 370 and it works great for a low-end crossbow ya can't beatem thinking about getting another crossbow which will probably be a center point but in the middle price range I like my barrnet but l like the adjustability in the center points these high end crossbows are nice but I can't see spending that kind of money
I've got a couple month old Barnett whitetail hunter str and kinda wish I'd had gotten a killer instant.
I shoot the ampid 415 very happy with that crossbow and there customer support is great I also use there premium arrows and am getting 400 fps out of my setup scope is right on the money out to 50 yards and is adequate as far as I'm concerned
i have the Dagger 390. Love it except for the scope
The Amped 415 is a monster for the money. I paid a little over $300 for mine, it is very accurate and powerful. Chronographs at 353fps with 470gr (total including tip) bolts.
Loving the search for Bunjie replacement series Rich.
I've got the mercenary 370, and It is everything I need in a crossbow. I'm sure the pricier models are even better...
I had an Excalibur matrix 380 a couple years ago and sold it because I hadn't been hunting for a couple years. Last year I bought the CP amped 415. I shot it about 40 to 50 times. It was very accurate out to 50 yards with the factory arrows. I tried the blood sport arrows and they were very accurate at 20 yard, as I moved out they shot off a few inches every ten yards I went out. But all three arrows were tight together, just not where I was aiming. I couldn't figure it out. I also didn't like the fact that I had to collapse the stock down everytime I cocked it and slide it back out to take a shot. I figured the mechanism would break before long. Plus it left weird marks on the shafts up by the fletching from the ball bearing hold down device, not sure what caused that. I sold it, and now wished I would have kept my Excalibur. Luve and learn. So back to looking for another crossbow, but don't have the budget for the nice ones anymore. At least I hear CP has great customer support, that in and of itself is a good reason to choose them. Happy hunting!
What I have been hearing is that the crank system can be attached to any of centrepoints crossbows
I started looking into crossbows 2 days ago, as I was invited to hunt for deer in the end of this month, I loved your videos and watched a ton + subscribed 🤛🏼 I’m so lost with all the choices out there, I have a $600 ten point and a $2200 ravin in my cart but cannot decide. I may not hunt as much as I would love to (once every other year) and have shotguns and a rifle but what would you suggest for someone like me who has never shot or hunted with a crossbow? CenterPoint Archery Wrath 430 Black Crossbow or Ravin R29? Thanks a lot
Gotta try 'em out...I do like the looks of that Wrath too!
I have a centerpoint sniper 390 snd that crossbow is very accurate to 50 plus yards at a great price. And centerpoint is very helpful. 290.00$ its a great price for me. Good luck happy hunting
It does only come with a draw rope but you can but a crank
I know you've already decided on and bought the Scorpyd. I bought a Wrath 430X a few weeks ago. The X has an adjustable stock, like an AR-15. I wasn't fond of the package scope. I put a Hawke on it. The stock bolts are 400 grain with the 100 grain head. I ordered some heavier, spine indexed arrows, and they are 480 grains with 100 grain head. I shot it with my new bolts for the first time today. According to the speed ring on the scope, it's shooting just under 380 fps. I shot an 1 1/2", 3 bolt group with it at 60 yards and a 3" group at 100. I couldn't ask for more. The only drawback to me is the incredibly long trigger pull. The trigger pull isn't too heavy, it just has a lot of creep and no back wall before it fires. I tried the Silent Crank. It is silent, but I much prefer the rope cocker. It's a handful to cock, with the 210 lb draw weight, but it's not too bad if you're only shooting 15-20 times.
That's great to hear, I really like that crossbow btw
The reverse draw your drawing the cams off the back of cams instead of the front giving you added power stroke equal to size of cam making crossbow a little faster from what i understand. And i would check out trigger my centerpoint 370 has like a hard to pull 6lb trigger terrible. But crossbow is accurate.
I do believe that they test crossbows with light arrows to get highest speed. The arrows you looked at are 345 without field points, so it would be 445 with 100gr broadhead. This would give you that 160fpe listed.
I've crono'd my amped415 at 385fps with piledriver bolts, 100g fieldpoints. So it's close, but not perfect
Tenpoint/wicked ridge for the win!!!
If you are on a budget, the CenterPoint & Killer Instinct crossbows are quite competitive. CenterPoint has the connection with Ravin (owned by same company), but like Ravin their warranties are quite limited. Whereas, Killer Instinct has a lifetime warranty. If I was spending less than $1,000 on a crossbow, I would surely consider the CenterPoint CP400. I've held it in several stores now, & it seems quite solid & well built. A Wisconsin sporting goods store that tends to carry higher end stuff (Mathews, Mission, Hoyt, Bowtech, Ten Point, Ravin, etc...) has the CenterPoint CP400 hanging next to everything else. Outside of the scope not being the best, it's not a bad package for the money. If you really wanted a Ravin but can't really afford one, the CenterPoint models would be worth checking out. You can buy a CP CP400 from Walmart for under $700. 18 out of 19 reviews on the Walmart site, give this crossbow a 5 star rating. One rating was four stars. The only knock I have heard is the triggers may not be as good as the Ravin crossbows.
Are you going to look at Tenpoint? I recently upgraded from a barnett Jackal to Tenpoint's turbo.
Should be next video
Centerpoint crossbows are really bringing great performance crossbows at a very budget friendly price . I have the Mersinary 390 with the whisper kit and I love it! It's super accurate and currently the quietest crossbow I have owned to date 👍
Totally agree, good luck out there!
Centerpoint is Mankung..
hi, centerpoint wrath 430 is a rebranded man kung mk-xb65 and therefor (only for the centerpoint stickers) you pay around 200 euros more.
omg! you're correct! i feel scammed man kung are trash. They really killed it with the mk-xb65, very impressed. Wish they imported this into my country.
The "reverse draw " is the string coming from the inside of the cams (rail side) instead of the limb side ....also I and my family have shot the sniper 370 it is a great crossbow for the money the trigger is stiff and honestly I did not like the scope it seemed not so great but it was switched out with Bushnell trophy 2x7 doa crossbow scope and that was much better
Hi Rich.Any chance you might do one or two re-curves in the coming weeks? Loving my Excalibur Assassin 400 TD !
He already started it off with a recurve.
Will do excal soon!
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@@leveraction767 Good point, well made. One out of ten ain't bad. 🙂
My first crossbow Center Point Amped 415, greetings from Poland friends 👋😁
Many new crossbows have picatinny rails on the bottom, so you can just add a vertical grip if you want. Been thinking of putting one on the Killer Instinct Boss 405 I just purchased.
Sweet, a great point!
Would love to have a center point, bought a Barnett whitetail hunter str and bought a fore grip for it that expands into a tri pod.
Great video bud I was thinking about centerpiont 430 how is that trigger what’s the pull on it lbs
Thanks, I think 3.5 lbs trigger
@@Deathbybunjie ok thanks
As you know I shoot the patriot 415 from center point and I am more than please I really love my crossbow the optics are ok I would prefer something better for low light conditions but I can't really complain 😜
If you check out ten points website for crossbows you have the option of a built in retractable manual cocking system the acu draw 50 or a crank cocking system which is the acu draw system
I had a ten point before I bought my Patriot and the string crank was Very noisy and had cost me several hogs the crank on my Patriot is MUCH quieter
Rich, will you be looking at the newer Excalibur’s eventually? (Aside from the twin strike of course) lol
Lol absolutely
I absolutely love Excalibur I own 7 Excalibur's, my hands down favorites are my Bulldog 400 & Matrix 380. But the state I recently moved to, has a 200lbs draw weight restriction on Xbows. So I just ordered a CP Wrath 430X with silent crank from Amazon for $424 and I'm getting a $100 nail in rebate from Centerpoint. $324 after mail in rebate for such a fast as accurate crossbow, with a silent crank is awesome. Amazon also has the original cp Wrath 430 for $380.
That's cool, some good crossbows there that's for sure. I really do like that wrath for what it's worth! That is an amazing price for what you're getting, I really hope it serves you well.
How long before they confirmed the rebate after you submitted? Did mine right at Christmas so I’d expect they will be slower, but want another data point for comparison.
Sled style cocking devices are a little bit difficult to disengage after cocking. Develop a technique to remove without endangering your fingers. Second focal plane scopes usually have a crosshair. You can change magnification without causing accuracy problems because the crosshair is in the center of the scope. A tree style reticle will only be accurate at a particular magnification. The speed ring scopes are second focal plane scopes with the speed ring controlling magnification and accuracy.
CNC is a machine that they program and it cuts it out of a solid piece metal stock whether it is Steel or Aluminum . It`s done all by computer .
2021 centerpoint siege rs410 is the reverse draw
Think they need to update their site
I love my dagger 390
Hi rich I love your videos alot I'm a very new crossbow hunter and have just bought a centerpoint sniper xt 390 does Any one know much about it that might help me out with it Mike from ohio
Read manual cover to cover...from what I know about CP most come with a good manual. Cock and shoot and repeat. Get to know it. Follow manufacturer's instructions. That's gotta be 90% of success right there. I hope that helps!
I used Horton crossbows for 15yrs ,it’s retired now,( been doing this for 26 yrs) yes time does fly
A Blazing 232 FPS, always worked out to 30 yrds or so, Center point does make a good crossbow
Certain Barnett’s, if I needed a new one,I’d take a hard look at Ten-point/ wicked ridge, call them,they most always answer the phone!
Be -Safe best of luck
If you go with the newer narrow hi tech ones...are you changing the logo for Death By Bunji?
No way lol, that's Bunjie!
White band is a good (potential) blood spotter. You can crest any arrow. You should get a crester. I think you would like doing this kind of art on your arrows. Seems a good fit for you and not an expensive hobby.
If you have to replace any type of crossbow/bow string or cables, I’d use 60X custom strings. They’re out of PA. I’ve used them personally and replaced nearly 100 strings with that companies offerings
Replaced a 100 strings with that company? Hope it was on at least half that many bows! At 100 shots + a day I only changed string 2 times a year, with winner choice. ;)
@@leveraction767 I work at a Cabela’s. My comment was too brief. I’ve replaced my original Mathews compound bow string with theirs. I’ve also have several recurves strung with 60X strings. I’ve recommended them to customers. I’ve installed probably 100 60x strings and they’re always the proper size with tight servings. Super quick shipping as well.
What other crossbows have you looked at? We got an awesome deal on that Bear X Trek 380.
Also, are there any kind of little stands you can use just to help prop up a crossbow? Its for when my mom wants to use it. Its a little front heavy for her but I'm confident with practice (and some kind of little prop) we will both love it. (I know I'm feeling satisfied with a quality purchase) 😁
I looked at a lot more crossbows back then but I'm also looking at some new offerings right now with new videos so check out both. As for the prop, take a look at the Caldwell Deadshot field pod or the bog death grip, both of them get good reviews from me. Hope that helps! Good luck out there to both of you!
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Awesome! That is a place for me to start.
Just our blind is a repurposed fishing shack so it’s actually a small building with removable windows and strong frames to rest your rifle on (still with a hand to cushion)
So at least I know there are options.
(I’m still so tickled at the awesome deal we got and what little extra I had to pay was way overshadowed by the fact I was able to support a local business and not have to travel 3.5 hours to cabelas.)
String is on the inside of the cams instead of the outer. Reverse draw. Most things are not CNC they are molded. CNC is a machine with router bits that carves things out of solid stock. 👌
I’m not overly impressed with the scope that came with my Sniper 370 but it’s the only crossbow scope that I’ve ever used. So far just shooting it for practice it seems to be adequate. One day while I was practicing at 20 yards I was able to put the bolt in the same hole four times in a row.
Awesome
Couple months ago I got a bernet whitetail hunter str and kinda wish I had got a center point sniper.
Re: the reverse draw: when I hear that term I think of a bow where the cams are at the front and the limbs are closer to the shooter; however, I do see that the string runs on the inside of the cams in the Wrath, rather than around the outside (as with a typical compound bow), so maybe that's what they mean by "reverse?" Just a guess. 🤷♂️
On this crossbow the reverse draw means the cams spin inwards instead of outwards.
Had a centerpoint bow and it was the 370fps was a great bow now my granddaughter has it and got her first deer with it.
Hey Rich, do you know if any manufacturer make a GPS nock to easily find your arrows with phone?
There have been a couple. They have come and gone and never caught on. Bread crumbs was the last. Maybe they are still around. Very expensive (all of them) and customer satisfaction has always been mild at best.
There were some Bluetooth nocks but really, IMO, a lighted nock still best bet at least for me
I just bought the Wrath 430 from cabelas. 399$ on sale, Plus 15% off for cyber monday, plus 100 Manufacturer rebate. 239$ out the door for the bow after everything. I really wanted a ravin R5X on Cyber Monday, but could not pass this deal up for essentially 1,000$ cheaper. Plan on registering the bow Friday when it comes.
Holy cow that's incredible, I really like that crossbow, let me know how you make out, that is an incredible deal
How did the rebate process work for you? How long the approval after you submitted? Have you received the rebate yet?
Rick you need to take a look at the F1 lambs head crossbow it's really neat you need to take a look at it this is Carl up in Maine
if you had to choose between the Tradition 405 or the AT400?
Took a quick look at both of them. I'd say the tradition 405, has an aluminum Rail and sometimes that makes a big difference. Composite sometimes gets a little wonky with temperature deviations that's just my thoughts off the cuff, but either one of those crossbows will kill some deer! Good luck!
@@Deathbybunjie thanks I appreciate your insights
I have a centerpoint 370 sniper ! Only complaint is the trigger creep other then that I love it I shoot a heavier arrow amd it can moose! That isnt realtree telling me it's the moose in the freezer telling me !!
Lol perfect!
Due to being on disability budget was very important to me so I went with the sniper 370. The only downside is the trigger creep. That being said this thing is a tackdriver. Not a top of the line it does the job very well.
CNC (computer numerically controlled) design means the manufacturer can download a computer aided design (CAD) drawing, yes in three dimensions, into the CNC machine. This is a accurate way to manufacture what was designed on the computer.
I like your idea about the fore grip, that's why the darton 135 Toxin felt so good to me, and the high comb on rear stock, no head bobble trying to sight in for your shot
They actually used a 400 grain arrow total for testing.
I have a CP Sniper 370 it is a older one but there are some cheap parts (plastic) like the trigger release for the adjustable stock loose and clicky (noisy) .
The optics are nothing special CP 4 power scopes, the redicals I like a solid line on sides with a peep tho circle ⭕️ in middle but the yardage is not numbered no biggy but also if you sight your main retical at 20 yards the next retical will be low about an inch at 30 and the 40 retical will be about 2 inches low! I don’t know but it is almost like the scope is designed for 5 yard increments in my opinion! I sight my main retical at 25 yards then at 30 it is on and at 40 is anout inch low. So you may want to change out the scope that comes with the package. Also as I said mine is an older bow and they may have addressed these minor issues!
It seems they have moved ahead and I also see the prices have moved ahead as well since I bought my Sniper for $300 Canadian.
Ten point
I imagine Centerpoint is a known economical crossbow. They are owned by the same company as Crossman. I remember owning a Crossman by gun when I was young and was reliable had it for years. I haven't heard of that many problems with Centerpoint.
Too bad you didn't buy the Ibex 11 years ago to get the thumbhole stock you like so much.
Just bought a amped 415 centerpoint it's really accurate
purchased one of these for last season (and my first season) shoots great!
I have a patriot 415, upgraded to a ravin scope and zombie slayers, I absolutely love it
I wish i went truglo on the scope, went utg - was a mistake. I run piledriver bolts, but ill bet he's going to run with the oem bolts regardless of choice
I also must note: Raven and Centerpoint are both brands owned by Crosmen
@@Endmass i actually bought a set of 20in Fang bolts and 100gr swackers and total weight was 430 gr , i hope they work for me