Murdered on a Deserted Island | Sea Wind Case Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2022
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What are the odds? Sail hundreds of miles to visit a deserted island and encounter murderous psychopaths.
...and murderous psychopaths are everywhere. They just feel freer in places where nobody can see them.
The ole West of the high seas
Higher than you think.
It’s really sad 😢. I wish the sweet couple, the Graham’s had taken off as soon as Buck took all the cigarettes.
They are everywhere,
Just shows you how prevalent bad neighbors are if you can even find some on a freakin’ deserted island.
Note to self: If I'm ever on a deserted island with people I don't like, get the heck off of that island. Thank you for another exceptional analysis, Dr. Grande! 🌻
exactly. stubborness cost them their lives. wonder why they stayed.
@@helensmith8325 Well tbf they lost their lives because some scumbag chose to murder them.
@@eadweard. but the scumbag was an obvious scumbag, so it was risky staying there
@@helensmith8325 Graham insisted on staying even tho Eleanor was adamant about leaving. Too bad he didn't listen to her 😔
This note still works if we remove "I don't like"
I saw the dramatization of this story on A&E and was so annoyed at Malcolm. He thought he could handle himself but then why take the risk. Swallow your pride and enjoy the rest of your life.
Couldn't agree more, I would have been out of there as clearly this Buck guy was deranged.. The pacific is a big place with thousands of other identical islands that don't have Buck on them.
Some people are just oblivous to clear signs of danger and let their ego get the best of them. A fatal mistake a lot of times.
I feel the same way exactly as you said it. He was overconfident and didn't perceive the danger. All the signs were there. Strange couple, antisocial behavior, scumbag, no means to support themselves, the desperation, and a gun owner.
It's exactly the kind of situation a sensible person would have noped out of. You know gone sailing back to Hawaii for a year and return later.
What was also sad, was that Graham’s wife, Eleanor ( Muff ), was having awful premonitions of this-their final boat excursion. She told a friend just prior to leaving that they wouldn’t return, and even when the friend inquired in regards to Muff staying home, Muff responded that she couldn’t do that, knowing that her husband was “gone” without her-that she would never forgive herself, should she remain behind at home. Besides she loved Mac, and would have been heartsick without him.
Yep, and his arrogance got his wife killed.
Seriously, all the signs were there that remaining alone on the island with the armed and desperate couple was a very bad idea. I think it was Malcolm’s ego more than his inflexibility that got in the way of his sense. He wasn’t about to be pushed around and back down and leave because of Buck. Malcolm should have considered his wife’s safety was more important than his ego. They should have just sailed away at the same time as the last set of visitors and called the Coast Guard to rescue Buck and Stephanie.
Yes!! They'd made their beautiful journey, why put danger over safety at the end?
They could have left with the others, and gone on to their next adventure, taking wonderful memories with them.
What a tragically sad waste.
Yes - It's Easy to see what they SHOULD have Done , looking back on the Situation Now . . But as the Old saying goes "HINDSIGHT Is 20/20 " !
Or just let them starve to death.
Exactly!
You are so right. Muff and Mac should have sailed away at the same time as the last yacht to leave. The other yachties were very wary of the rogue couple, and warned Mac.
Sometimes the best thing to do is just adjust to the reality you find yourself in, accept your disappointment, and sail away.
💯 ❗️
nah, he should have killed the other guy first
I remember this event. It was horrible. I was always surprised the GRAHAMS stayed on the island with Buck still there. I think Mr Graham was stubborn and no one was going to intimidate him to leave. So sad.
Great analysis. The ending comment about Buck didn’t know how to make a plan and Malcolm didn’t know how to deviate from a plan was a profound observation that definitely would have made this tragic horrific event turn out very different.
This is like the plot of a horror movie. Unreal. May the victims RIP
Not really because Malcolm and his wife would’ve left anytime they wanted, thus avoiding the whole thing. This is more like the plot of an after school education special.
Flexibility is a key survival trait, then.
Eleanor was the only smart one in that relationship, sadly. Interestingly, listening to stories like this, is one of the ways 'common sense' is formed. You hear about the mistakes of others, and then avoid making those same mistakes yourself in the future.
Yes! I notice that people who do not read often lack common sense due to inexperience! Leading many vicarious lives informs!
@@bthomson Yes. Common Sense has a definition. It's KNOWLEDGE LEARNED THROUGH EXPERIENCE. Either your own experiences or the experiences of others you have learned about or read about. We all build up a data-bank of life experiences as we progress along in our lifetimes. Sadly, some learn slowly. Others never seem to learn from their mistakes and keep making the same mistakes over and over and over.
👍for common sense!
They were two hard-headed men: Mac and Buck, the one a success, and the other a criminal
This is the story that Vincent Bugliosi's book "And the Sea will tell" was about. An excellent book, excellent commentary by Dr. Grande, and an excellent miniseries (from the 80's with Rachel Ward).
Vincent Bugliosi thought he was the best lawyer that ever lived in that book. The story and movie; however, was riveting.
"And the Sea Will Tell" is an outstanding book, so well-written, I couldn't put it down. It's one of the best true crime books I've ever read. The TV movie/miniseries from 1991 holds up pretty well, In addition to Rachel Wood, Richard Crenna, Diedre Hall and James Brolin starred.
If it’s anything like Helter Skelter it’s no wonder it’s a good book, because it’s a complete work of fiction!
Thanks! Always on the hunt for a good book. I found Vincent's Helter Skelter to be riveting when I read it decades ago. He had a huge ego but I found him to be an interesting, intelligent man and a great story teller. While he delves deep into the mind of murderers he also took the time to show respect and mourn the victims.
Fabulous book
Dr Grande never disappoints with his content and his humour.
Ain’t that the truth! How he does it with a straight face is a mystery to me.
@@Peter_Morris that’s not hard
@@Peter_Morris on like
@@janetf.8459 humor?
Right!!! So monotone but savage
I'm just speculating but it seems I daily find myself in a situation like this, that situation is watching Dr. Grande.
This was a very suspenseful analysis especially when you added so many people were leaving the island because of Buck and Stephanie. Eww creepy Too bad they didn’t have the instincts to get out of there!
Linda Muff wanted to leave but couldn’t convince Mac. Too bad - Mac and Muff would have had their lives and with any luck Buck and the moron Stephanie would have died
Stephanie Stearns got off because Vincent Bugliosi was brilliant. Why he defended her is beyond me but the catch-phrase from his defense of her was "consciousness of innocence." According to the defense, she repeatedly made statements that unwittingly indicated she genuinely didn't know what Buck did. Critical thinking would have enlightened her but she didn't have any of that either; she was in love with Buck and completely relied on him. If there's a smidgen of an iota of a chance that she didn't know what he did at the time he did it, it is believable that she did not ask questions after the fact, and relied only on whatever lies Buck told her - because she did not want to know the truth. Wilful ignorance is not a new concept.
Women are often innocent until proven guilty and men guilty until proven innocent.
That is just an open lie. There is no chance that she did not know what Buck did. The Grahams were missing, and they stole their boat. Maybe the jury were mesmerized by Bugliosi
@@justnoted2995 Yes, having a celebrity for your attorney more or less stacks the deck, doesn't it?
Just noted Agree. Stephanie had to have known what her loser boyfriend did and she most likely helped in some way
She was guilty as can be. She got away w murder. What a sleaze that Stephanie was. Disgusting. And bugliosi knew she was guilty.
Boat version of the witness protection program because it testified against the mafia or something hahaha 😂😂😂 Thanks for the laughs and as always great analysis, Dr Grande 👍❤️⚔️🔥🐴
That made me laugh hard too!
Swordfish as villain!
These older cases have me at the edge of my seat. I was sooo hoping that the Grahams weren't the victims, but why wouldn't Malcolm just get himself and hid wife far away from that couple??
Very interesting case Dr. Grande, and I was happy hearing you explain the geographical information of where this case occurred, geography was always my worst subject.
Loved the Swordfish comments too! ;D
I remember reading the long book and watching the movie.
There were other people on the island with the Graham’s and the 2 criminals for awhile.
The others left the island but Graham insisted they stay longer.
His wife was terrified of Buck and Stephanie and wanted to leave when the others did.
Thank you Dr. Grande.
If anything I'd believe that malcom was responsible for her death. She was afraid and he didn't listen to her
@@yvette3970
I agree.
She wanted to leave when the other groups left.
They were afraid that the swordfish would finish the job 😆. Great analysis, I am one of your followers who suggested it. I read Vincent Bugliosis book and saw the miniseries. Both of those accounts portrayed Stephanie as innocent. Vincent made a great case for reasonable doubt but you made a great case for her guilt. Thanks for the video, it’s a fascinating case and I enjoyed the other perspective
Lol! Who knows, maybe it was the swordfish that killed the couple and Buck and Stephanie were just trying to get away, before the fish came after them!
If you're interested in seeing the prosecution's perspective, this case is one of the first episodes of the TV show _The FBI Files_ made back in the 90's - you can watch it on a couple of channels here on RUclips. It's excellent because they interview the FBI investigators from Hawaii (who explain the challenges of investigating a crime on a remote island) _and_ the friend of the Graham's that they were regularly checking in with via radio (also the person who raised the alarm). I can't recall if it was this or another program but I've also watched an interview with the couple who were the last boat to leave Palmyra before the murders, and they didn't paint a pretty picture of Stephanie & Buck.
I have hard time believe Stephanie was innocent! She had to be guilty to some degree!
The way better and more truthful book is Final Argument by Thomas Bucy.
Another captivating analysis. I read Bugliosi's book years ago and wondered how he could defend Stephanie Stearns.
Because that is what defense attorneys do.
bugliosi was a crook among crooks
Because you are assumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Do you think this is a bad thing? Or do you think the government should be able to imprison people at random without trial?
@@johnqpublic2718 Why do you say that? I'm curious
Tiger But Stephanie lied a lot - no way was she innocent among other reasons
I like the deadpan look when making a joke! Your videos are great linear timelines of what happens in the cases you explore and your reasoning logical. Thank you for your analyses.
A great analysis for a horrific crime. Congrats on surpassing One Million Subscribers - very cool.
Thanks for putting the video up.
Your razor wit, perfect timing and special blend of sarcasm is the best. Sometimes I find myself laughing at one of your lines all over again long after I’ve viewed your videos.😊
This story has always made me sad.. You did a hood job telling it….And YES. both of these horrible people are guilty of murder.
Ahree. I can’t believe Bugliosi defended her - she had to have been guilty
Your shirt matches the wall 🤔😅
I know most will disagree with me. But if she actively participate in the murders, they had the entire ocean to dispose of both bodies. It would have been impossible to take them to trial if that woman had not found the box.
I think that’s a really good point. He didn’t want her to know.
Yesss !!
J Marie Yes but Buck did take measures to ensure they would not be found. Placing them in the box and placing wire around the box. If she had nothing to do with it why did she tell so many lies and contradictions? She’s a murderer too!
They tortured Muff to death to get the money, not the $400 but the over $5000 they had stolen from the Grahams then buried her on the beach. That's why her body was found there. Read . The way better and more truthful book is Final Argument by Thomas Bucy.
"Was the boat afraid that the swordfish would find it again and finish the job?". Dr. Grande, you always manage to crack me up with your cleverly timed one liners. So good. You are a natural my friend. 😂 Thanks for the video!
Waiting for Grande … so many stories, so little time.. Thanks, Grande. These videos are the best!
Can kitty sail?
You would think that that would have been the last place on earth to encounter such nightmare neighbors! Thanks for covering this story!
OMG Doc!! I knew you'd make a million subs!! I'm so proud of you!! You soooo earned it!! 😄
I love the stories on this channel that are cautionary tales. I wouldn't have known about most of these cases without Dr. Grande highlighting them as topics. These stories are a a lesson for idealists, the overly optimistic, and those who venture off the beaten path unprepared. In my experience, if ideals or fantasies take you to a remote place, literally or figuratively, you will find a sociopath or two who thrive in either the open-heartedness of the sojourners or who need the remoteness to avoid detection.
Dr.Grande, please discuss the Phillip Markoff (Craigslist Killer/medical student) case from around 2009. A lot to analyze.
Markoff's problem was he kept repeating the same bad behavior expecting a different outcome =
INSANITY
Dr. Grande did a video on Markoff about one year ago.
@@bthomson No he didn't. I checked.
GR RK. - Sorry! I saw That Chapter and thought it was a Grande! 😑
What an interesting case - and analysis. I have never heard of this one before but it's like Gilligan's Island meets Lord of the Flies. Crazy stuff happens when people are off the grid without a large audience to keep them accountable. Thanks for keeping it interesting, and having such a diverse bunch of content, Dr. G!
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Excellent story, very interesting case.
That Maxwell must have been stubborn, I would have just left.
There is little to restrain convicts when there are no authorities around.
Thank you for the video.
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Dr. Grande, you're the best! Thank you for highlighting that weak point: The inability or refusal to deviate from a plan. Flexibility is key - _"Survival of the most adaptable,"_ (an important nuance in reference to being "the fittest") as one of my favorite anthropology professors stated. 👍
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As someone who was cruising on a sailboat in the '80s, this was a horrific story I had heard about back then. I've been in remote places where it was imperative to be prepared to be alone, whether on an island or open water, and be to equipped. This life style is not for the faint-hearted or someone with a big ego. That awful couple, with their starving dogs...horrific.
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Imagine in one episode we start with the exculpatory evidence, it would blow my mind! 😂 Great episode Dr Grande 👍
Great final roundup of this one👌🏻: '1 didn't know how to make a plan & the other did not wish to break his plan...' Such a shame, they should have left when they had the chance... 🏝️
This is such a sad case. I first read about it a few years ago. It has stuck with me. The Graham’s seemed like good people , looking forward to being home close to their grandchildren but they was stolen from them. Great analysis, Dr Grande.
The Grahams didn’t have kids let alone grandkids. Still sad though. Another really sad yachting murder case is about Tom and Jackie Hawks who lived on their boat in Newport Beach CA. They were horrifically murdered and dumped at sea in 2004 when a loser couple pretended they want to buy the Hawks boat
OMG! in the 1880s (i believe) an ancestor of mine was shipwrecked on this island en route from Australia to san francisco. the ship was called the henry james and the captain and first mate rowed vast distances to Samoa. The passengers were finally rescued after over 40 days on the atoll.
I first heard about this case from one of the first episodes of the TV show _The FBI Files_ made back in the 90's (you can find it on a couple of channels here on RUclips). It's excellent because they interview the FBI investigators from Hawaii (who explain the challenges of investigating a crime on a remote island) _and_ the friend of the Graham's that they were regularly checking in with via radio (also the person who raised the alarm). There's also an interview with the couple who were the last boat to leave Palmyra before the murders, and they didn't paint a pretty picture of Stephanie & Buck... I'm still surprised that the Graham's didn't just sail a good distance away, call the Coast Guard to pick the Gruesome Twosome up, and then sail back to enjoy Palmyra alone. Such a shame.
I'll always think of boats as being afraid of swordfish, lol. It baffles me that Malcolm wouldn't leave. My husband and I were in a remote place in the mountains once, and another couple showed up, and it just didn't feel right being along with them in such a remote place. They gave us the willies. We left quickly, and years later, I still feel nervous thinking about it. The couple in this video seem like remarkable people, what a sad story.
I read the book.
You were very nice explaining Buck. According to the book, he was a monster.
Stephanie wasn't much better
Always interesting
Thank you.
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Good story, first time hearing it.
Love your delivery! 😄 Would you consider analyzing the case of Debora Green? Ann Rule's book Bitter Harvest about that case was fascinating. Thanks, and I really enjoy your videos!
This was a made for tv movie as well. I think it was "And the Sea Will Tell". Very good book and movie.
Amazing Malcolm wouldn't leave the island, when they were obviously in a vulnerable position. He had a responsibility to look out for the safety of his wife, and he failed miserably at that. He should have left the island, then I'm sure Buck and Stephanie would have tried to sail their boat at some point, and probably drowned somewhere in the pacific. Also the world would have been spared another moronic Bugliosi book, which is always a positive.
I have the book by Vincent Bugliosi! Heartbreaking! Thank You, again!
The way better and more truthful book is Final Argument by Thomas Bucy.
Thank you Dr. Grande for your analysis on this case. I recall it from a true crime show years ago, it made me feel so sad for Eleanor. I definitely agree that Stephanie was, at least, an accomplice of the crime. I wish that Malcolm and Eleanor just have left and changed their plans.
One of my favorite reads! So happy to hear your analysis Dr. G.
Hello Dr.Grande, thank you for the very interesting analysis videos. This case was interesting and kind of strange. I tend to feel the same way you do. Love to follow you and listen to the different cases you bring to us, thank you for sharing. Best Regards.
The Grahams should have left almost immediately. What did they expect from people who are low life and have no supplies?
Interesting to note Malcom thought his .357 would keep him safe. The best defense is always to avoid the scenario.
You really are sensational Doctor Todd.
Thanks so much for your always, very fine work.
Another excellently crafted explanation. The final thoughts are always cogent and helpful.
I applaud your wonderful sense of dry stirred humor. It adds a nice extra to your very interesting videos. I called “amused learning”. Thank you 🙏
The sword fish joke got me 😄😄😄
Thank you Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis as always.
I wish that people would learn that there is nothing wrong with giving in to a situation, such as walking away, sailing away and relinquishing plan A for plan A somewhere safe. Too much pride can also be dangerous.
Great content doc
This is one of the most fascinating - and horrific - of all double murders. That poor couple. The story captured my attention at a time when I was so deeply immersed in my own career that almost nothing outside of that phased me. I still have my paperback copy of the story of these murders, "And the Sea Will Tell," by Vincent Bugliosi, the attorney who prosecuted Charles Manson and also wrote a book about those murders, "Helter Skelter." "And The Sea Will Tell" was made into an outstanding 1991 TV movie with an all-star cast. Glad this crime made Dr. Grande's list.
The way better and more truthful book is Final Argument by Thomas Bucy.
I don't could I read his book on the case. Pretty sick he got that woman acquitted
It's hard to believe that Mr. Graham chose to stay and risk their lives.
😂 Rename & paint the boat so the swordfish couldn't find it... 😂😂
Good morning, everyone! Thank you Dr Grande!
I started reading a book about this case. Buck was clueless. He thought that he could grow weed on the island but didn’t have a reliable way of getting it from the island to wherever it was that he was supposed to sell it. He didn’t consider if there was a source of fresh water on the island. Unprepared slacker.
Do you think this is surprising?
I saw a long documentary on this case a few years ago. It was chilling.
One of my favorite true crime books. Nicely covered.
The way better and more truthful book is Final Argument by Thomas Bucy.
Max and Muff were my aunt and uncle. That was their nicknames. It was a sad time when they just stopped communicating. Sadder when we heard they were murdered. We are from San Diego. Yes, my Aunt was afraid of these people, and their dog, but my Uncle didn't want to seem afraid.
So, yes. it was his choice to stay and got them murdered. This broke my Grandmothers heart. I'm told they found my Aunt's skull in the sand and made Malcom walk the plank.
‘They planned to plant marijuana seeds and sell it. The bugs 🐛 ate the seeds before they had a chance to grow.’
That really nipped their plan in the bud. 🤣
The analysis was interesting- Have a great day, Dr Grande ☀️🌵
Very sad ending for a couple who had dreams for a life time. I am pleased someone was found guilty, so often zero justice is applied. As we see in the acquittal of the accomplice.
Dr. Grande, as always your analysis is greatly aporeciated. Your insights and explanations help to understand the unfortunate happings around us. Keep up the humor! With a smile your way, take care and see you on the next one!
I've never seen this Case covered before!
Excellent as per usual
Good Day, Dr. Grande.
"Better a live dog than a dead lion." -Caroline Ingals
In other words sometimes it's better to tuck your tail and run than to get your dander up and try to fight it out...
the boat protection program and swordfish jokes are too good
And The Sea Will Tell by Vincent Bugliosi was a great book about this case. I read it a few years ago. Fascinating story.
Yes I think it may be better than Helter Skelter.
The way better and more truthful book is Final Argument by Thomas Bucy.
I think he underestimated how dangerous Buck was and his ego wouldn't let him leave the island and it got him and his wife killed unfortunately
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Subject : evil murder deceit and horrendous things , and yet Dr. grande’s voice Is soooo soothing so peaceful and pleasant to listen to , sweet dreams from Texas
Another amazingly accurate, detailed & humous analysis
You have to be really careful of those swordfish perpetrators when you're a boat.
“The couple kept the vessel in perfect working order.” I guess you could say the Seawind was shipshape 😂
Thanks, Doc.
I read the book on this years ago. So tragic. Must have been terrifying.
Love the string lighting.
Once again putting an overconfidence on having a handgun available to deal with evil, instead of acknowledging it, weighing anchor and moving on.
Dr. Grande keeps a straight face when I would crack! 🤪 Would love to hear your analysis of the Thomas and Jackie Hawke murders. What a compelling case.
I do love your sense of humor.
Have a good weekend Dr.
Dr. Grande, this is so good! Your comment section is excellent tonight as well. Thanks! ♥️🎶
Warch first, watch second time, read comments!
I enjoyed this segment I read a book about this quite a few years ago
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Woohoo! Just in time, I’m in the back of an Uber and need some food entertaining content!
This story is really larger than life! I can’t believe this really happened, the nature of existence is so brutal… You aren’t even safe on a desert island! Why we can’t just love our brothers and sisters in humanity I can not understand. The reality here is that if Stephanie and Buck would have just gone about things honestly, the Graham’s would have probably dropped them off somewhere to save their lives. The Graham’s sound like they were good honest hard working people and this is very tragic but I have to say that it sounds as if they wouldn’t have wanted to go any other way. I’m thankful Buck and Stephanie got caught and are not walking amongst my children on the streets!
@@mayabergsdottir9622 no I wrote that before I even knew what story he was about to tell. I was excited to have a Dr. Grande video because I like him. Remember, we all have to die one day and I certainly don’t “gloat” at death as it’s close to home. It is important to remember that every little tiny dishonesty can lead you to a very dark place and watching these stories keeps that in perspective for me. If nothing else, the Grahams story has helped me to live another few hours being honest with myself and that means a lot.
@@supermeansadie6753 It's fine. Everyone except Maya understood you were happy to watch a Dr Grande video.
@@supermeansadie6753 idk the way some of you guys in the true crime sphere gloath in ppls very tragic deaths as entertainment is troublesome to say the least. You are ofc not alone in this phenomenon. Its one thing to remember the victims, or use it in an informative maner another thing to use it & let it be used for entertainment. It is what it is... Little bit of soul searching wont do no harm.
@@supermeansadie6753 "Every little dishonesty can lead to a dark place." Well said and this is at the heart of what draws many to these terrible stories. The deeds were done. Now all that is left is to learn and try to prevent it from happening again. A hard look at ourselves, being accountable for the awful things we do and think (all of us do it) and being willing to call each other out is the best chance we have at effecting change. Thanks for the awesome comments.
@@mayabergsdottir9622 It is ironic that your last comment ended with the advice to soul search but you dont seem willing to engage in that yourself. You paint people who are interested in discussing true crime as ghouls...but you are here too. Perhaps you feel only you have pure intentions. IDK. While there are many who revel in the pain of others, I find most of us are drawn in because we are grappling with the awful things we humans do. That is a lot to process as most of us dont see ourselves as being the bad actor in our stories when all of us have had our moment. All of us have been near or on the slippery slope that can lead to the darkest of places. My only request to you is maybe try to be a little kinder in how you approach people. You may find greater opportunities for good conversation and effecting change if that is of interest to you.
Thanks for the chuckles with the boat protection program on this gloomy morning🙏🙏🙏🙆