Ecumenism is a Heresy. Sermon by His Eminence Metropolitan Demetrius
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Sermon delivered by His Eminence Metropolitan Demetrius on the first Sunday of Great Lent, the Triumph of Orthodoxy, March 8/21, 2021, at Saint John of San Francisco Orthodox Monastery, Cobleskill, NY.
Metropolitan Demitrius uses an eloquent and beautiful yet butterfly wing-light touch to place a well-deserved yet respectful rebuke where it is greatly needed. Something tells me those being chastised likely never realized they'd been so. Masterfully done.
Yes I can affirm as painful as it is becoming I absolutely love his presentation of my failing. Please pray for me I am a sinner and have an affliction. God Bless
I've finally found the true ..genuine orthodox church..Seek and you will find.
May God keep you in a good confession of faith!
Greeting from Jakarta, Indonesia..
Am new to Orthodox, still learning... thank you for the sermon Metropolitan Demitrius..❤❤❤
God bless you.
Thank you for defending the Faith of our Fathers.
God bless you!
Thank you for the beautiful sermon l am quite upset over the calender celebrating the holiday of the Transfiguration and the Dormation Of Mary ahead of its time. We are lent still
God bless you.
Thank you Blessed Father Demetrius for guarding The Truth.
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I went to a ROCUR church on Sunday and they have commemorated Patriarch Kirill, I refused to partake in the communion and left. I don’t understand why people don’t stick to the truth and feel to unworthy to point out the falsehoods. I went to GOC church in FL for the first time and finally I heard orthodox teachings without confusions and contradictions. Thank you so much you eminence☦️
God bless you.
Not understanding your point. Why would those who are Russian Orthodox not commemorate their own patriarch?
@@eens9579 because the patriarch fell into a heresy
We need to return to our roots. Starting with the patristic calendar.
Yes.
بشفاعات والدة الاله وجميع القديسين يا مخلص خلصنا امين
Holy Master bless
Thank you Despota for your wise words in helping us understand how easy it is to fall away from the teaching of the church . Especially when one may put his or her own will first. I pray God will give you His strength to continue to guard His church. Amen!
What a beautiful sermon!
Greetings from an orthodox Serb from Bosnia.
God bless you.
Amen. Thank you, Your Eminence, for sharing.
Mother Anastasia, of St. Paisius Hermitage.
Wonderful sermon Bishop. Την ευλογία σου. Ο θεός και η Παναγία μας να σε έχει καλά. 🙏
video time 12.35 jerusalem and antioch have cut communion as have constantinople and moscow/things are getting worse/thank you metropolitan demetrius of san francisco
What does this mean? To cut communion? Which is the heretic Jerusalem or Antioch?
Please pray for me! I was received into the OCA 20 years ago, by Chrismation ONLY (at the adamant insistence of the "bishop" at the time). I know now how wrong that was, and am seeking God's guidance and direction towards receiving a true baptism, and being joined to a TRUE Orthodox Church (hopefully GOC).
May The Lord direct you to follow His holy will. Where do you live?
@@OrthodoxTradition Thank you. I live in the Los Angeles area. I believe the closest GOC to me is in Oxnard (Holy Trinity), which is about an hour away. I have been in contact with them by email.
Glory to God!
I remember this one! Thank you for posting it!!!
Thank you Despota. You have exposed so many things that I was unaware of .
I know there are many problems , nothing new under the sun . It appears that we are in great need for truth to be revealed and evil exposed . Thank you for your loving and composed presentation. I pray that those in the positions of authority will respond and repent . The contradictions and incorrectness that is unfolding in the Orthodox Church will be revealed .
I pray . God is with us .
So forgive me if I come across accusatory, I was baptized by a ROCOR parish over ten years ago, I at the time had heard rumors of old calandarists but had never researched into it, should I be seeking to join the GOC and has the last decade been nothing more than a delusion for me? Was my baptism false and all my struggles just vain strivings? I have been growing disillusioned with the church I have been attending but I don’t know if that’s more of laxity on my part or something else. I can be very impulsive hence why I am cautious of just “jumping ship” because someone says I am in the wrong place
Again please forgive me for being somewhat brunt, despite constantly being distracted I find my heart’s desire is salvation in Christ and I just want to make sure I am on the right path.
You should probably write directly to the monastery of St. John in Cobleskill.
I’d email Metropolitan Demetrius. He’s an amazing man, and will help you. I’m in the Bulgarian Patriarchate.
Amen. Thank you your eminence. ☦️🙏
Amen! Indeed, a very timely topic!
Indeed!
Our faith defines how we believe and must, obviously be protected. The old calendar church is the only church that is not corrupted. We need not look very hard to find fault in man, but not the church. Many people think man is corrupted, therefore the church is corrupted.
God bless you. Thank you.
AMEN ! 🩸☦️🩸 THANK YOU UPUR EMINENCE IN CHRIST JESUS OUR LORD GOD AND SAVIOR AMEN.
Does OCA church has fallen as well? Are they considered heretics? Tnanks
Thank you Father 🙏
pray for me
God bless you.
Fr Seraphim Rose and St John of San Francisco were in Communion with COGOC yes? If yes, that's all I need to know. These were to mighty and holy men of God in our recent times. I am fortunate enough to have a parish near me
Yes, both of them -- and many other holy men and Saints were too
@@OrthodoxTradition thank you for the response. if I can ask another question, does the COGOC have a Matthewite ecclesiology? Im very interested in attending a parish near me although their sermons online are Greek. I hope there's English in person lol
No, it does not
What is COGOC? Nothing Orthodox-related comes up in a search for that acronym on Google. Thank you.
@@clannard1 Church Of The Genuine Orthodox Christians
Thank you for your words.
God bless you. Thank you.
If only we had more strong voices like Metropolitan Demetrius on the Latin side against the ecumenist heresy. We need more orthodoxy in Rome.
You need Orthodoxy in Rome
Wouldn't it be wonderful if Rome abandoned the papacy and heresy and repented and converted, forsook all her ways and returned to Orthodoxy and brought all her children with her. The Vatican could be shut down with all its riches and sold off and the money be spent to feed the homeless, impoverished, the starving, the poor.
There has been, but they get marked as schismatic and or punished so people won't listen.
@@CHURCHISAWESUM Rome needs to convert and repent
@@catherinecarter8987 Our Lord said that the poor will always be with us, not so with our Lord. Funny how you point to temporal benefits for spiritual problems. He has come with the sword.
San Fran? West Covina Native here, Justin again I guess I answered my own question.
Pray for us on the Roman side.
May God unite all to His true Church.
Im old orthodoxy ☦️
God bless you.
@@OrthodoxTraditionGod bless you father
I'm confused... are all orthodox churches on new calendar considered heretics? To me old calendar makes more sense, but it is not up to me. I'm a member of an Antiochian Orthodox Church, which I believe is new calendar. Am I a heretic?
Unfortunately, the Antiochian Archdiocese is heavily involved in ecumenism.
@@OrthodoxTradition Even if that's true, it wouldn't mean grace has left it's sacraments as of today?
Please can you tell me what is this orthodox church? What is your patriarchate. And thank you
GOC, The Church that was in full Communion with ROCOR, before its union with Moscow.
@@OrthodoxTradition ok thank you. And with what churches do you have Communion now? And wich churches not? Sorry my bad english and hope it understandable.
As I shook my head I remembered he's surrounded by Muslims it's easier to be an ecumenist under pressure pray for our bishops in private prayer that God speaks to them
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me.
I hope that this video with your wise words will continue to enlighten orthodox untill the end of the age. But im curious what became of the monk who lost his grace of baptism?
The monk repented and was accepted by the Saint. May God save us all.
@@OrthodoxTraditionthank you. Have a blessed day
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All Glory to God for the Blessed Monk who repented and was saved.
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Lord protect you Church.
Kyrie eleison.
IC XC
NI KA
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Lord have mercy!
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Where is Fr. from? Greece? {Justin} here USA Massachusetts Melkite/Greek Orthodox catechumen.
Why can't we all just get along?
pride
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@Aioniansage6081 No! We can't because I'm right and you're wrong! And you need to listen to me, but I won't listen to a single word you say! Why? ECUMENICISM!
Maybe this is why the Orthodox have done a piss poor job of spreading the Gospel to all nations. Pride dressed in priestly robes.
Alonian Sage
We CAN get along, but we must preserve our Traditional Doctrines and keep them pure.
We cannot water down our Faith by changing the rules to modern thinking and political idealism.
Eastern Christianity is not a political agenda, or a world governmental institution, or a community run by mere men.
We are in accordance with The Nicene Creed and make this Profession of Faith at every Holy Liturgy.
If people desire unity, then leave heresy behind, step back into Eastern Orthodoxy and trample on the schism created by the historical heretics, through Repentance and Chrismation; be healed, restored and learn that unity is not about anything other than being reunited to God in Christ and the Holy Apostolic Church He set up and maintained '2000' years ago. Christ is the Head of our Church.
Man is imperfect.
The Holy Martyrs fought for and died for our Faith.
No Pope or false prophet or evangelist can add to what has been set.
This is what we defend and know.
We can get along and in Orthodoxy alone, not adulterated mixing, we can travel home together.
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Because the fall of man is real, and so is the devil ...
Thank you Your Eminence.
Today, the loyal Old-ROCOR is the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad (ROCA) that was formed in 1920 by bishops who were forced to leave their homeland along with millions of Russian people, all fleeing the horrors of the communist system. The ROCA bishops, clergy, and laity remain loyal to the original mission of an independent ROCA. We are not in Eucharistic communion with the Moscow Patriarchate (MP), the state-controlled official Russian Church.
The Moscow Patriarchate (MP) and the current ROCOR (MP) need to repent of the heresies of Ecumenism and Sergianism.
The Churches of the ROCA remnant (the part of ROCOR that did not go along with the union with the MP in 2007) are present today in the Diaspora District of ROCA. The list of Parishes is present on the rocana and auroca web sites.
The ROCA Churches are located in Australia, New Zealand, St. Petersburg, as well as in the U.S. and Canada.
Despite protests from within the ranks of bishops, clergy, and laypeople, on May 17, 2007, a large part of the ROCA entered into Eucharistic communion with the MP with the signing of the “Act of Canonical Communion” and is now known as the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia (ROCOR - MP). A smaller part chose to remain loyal to the historical Russian Orthodox Church and continue the mission of the ROCA.
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God bless you.
Where in the US?
What a beautiful sermon. Please forgive me but there is a rumor that a Priest under Metropolitan Demetrius married an Orthodox Christian to a Coptic Heretic. I hope this isn't true. Please correct me but is this even allowed?
It definitely did not happen under Metropolitan Demetrius. Be careful what you hear. Especially be careful of people who just say things with no proof. Oftentimes they are the ones who fall into the sin of slander. You will know them by their fruits. May God forgive all those who have slandered us.
I thought it was allowed to marry coptics and other heretics so long as they were baptized by their heretical sects.
What a profoundly stupid comment.
@@OrthodoxTradition Prayers for you all and especially for Blessed Metropolitan Demetrius.
Prayers for St. Michaels protection against demonic attacks against all who serve in The Holy Spirit.
Thank you for your sound Spiritual guidance and teaching.
With Love in Christ from the UK.
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What is your stance on Covidism ?
Yes I would also like to know the answer to that question, if I recall they followed the Gov orders and Obeyed but left certain decisions up to each congregation leader.But I may be wrong
In all sincerity, can someone explain to me why people should accept as true that early church fathers were divine vessels or had the ability to speak with God or to correctly define dogmas and doctrines as opposed to simply writing out their beliefs and coming to some sort of agreement on what they thought was true? For instance, we know from Arianism, and even biblical epistles, that Christians didn't all agree on everything. So beyond tradition and desire, why believe church leaders when they insist that the Fathers spoke with God? Thank you
The Holy Spirit dwelt within them. On top of that, the beliefs condensed down at the seven ecumenical councils were beliefs held by the Church at large, not just the views of a handful of patriarchs. Without the Church, these dogmas and doctrines would never have been accepted.
@@andreichira7518 I appreciate you taking the time to write. I probably wasn't clear as far as my question. The Bishops insist that they have always been guided by the Holy Spirit & that it is impossible for their collective decisions regarding matters of faith and morals to be incorrect. I'm wondering why people should accept this is being true beyond simply wanting it to be true? The Councils were held because groups both inside & outside of Proto & Orthodox Christianity considered themselves as Christians but often held different beliefs about God. For various reasons, the Emperor's, and their own, demand for unity, a sincere desire for clarification, a desire & need for control etc., the Bishops held the councils to decide on the Church's positions and then, utilizing the temporal power of the Emperors, enforced these positions, sometimes threatening various degrees of punishment, so indeed, these doctrines would never have achieved wide acceptance without the Church. As I'm sure you know, not all church leaders always agreed with the council's decisions and various church leaders and Bishops passed in and out of heresy & orthodoxy.. So, again, my question is, as the Church chose the books in the Canon and then decided on their inherency & the doctrines those books declare, what reason, or evidence, is there to believe that God grants the Church infallibility regarding its positions on faith and morals? Thanks very much!
I have ALWAYS wondered that same thing!
Get the book Orthodox Dogmatic Theology by Pomozansky.
Someone who can see the uncreated light in a person would have no trouble accepting Christ. If you have to ask, you would ask for a sign from Christ himself. Keep reading the Fathers and let the scales fall.
Which Bishop Andrei is His Eminence Met. Demetrius reffering to?
Archbishop Andrei of Novo Diviyevo
@@OrthodoxTradition THanks but what was the other one?
Is this Rusia Orthodox Church?
Many Orthodox I talk to get angry that I believe ecumenism is heretical. I want to become Orthodox but I dint know where to go.
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@Orthodox Tradition thank you I did. They are truly orthodox
ἔφη αὐτῷ ὁ Ἰησοῦς Ἀμὴν λέγω σοι ὅτι ἐν ταύτῃ τῇ νυκτὶ πρὶν ἀλέκτορα φωνῆσαι τρὶς ἀπαρνήσῃ με.
How can you lose grace of baptism when the apostle did not?
Jesus Christ the Lord restored Apostle Peter's loss of grace when he asked him three times "do you love me Peter." The holy fathers teach that the three denials were healed by three confessions "Yes, I love you Lord."
Is your monastery in communion with OCA ?
No, because of Ecumenism.
@@OrthodoxTradition i understand is that the same with Antiochian?
@@OrthodoxTradition I was curious about why you call yourself the genuine Orthodox Church? It’s kind of strange to me. With all respect. I do enjoy your homily’s
@@Ag-wu4miGreek Orthodox Church is already taken by the New Calendarists.
With all of my respect your eminence, it is not heresis, it is paneresis. What's the difference in between those two. We name Heresis, when someone is teaching a dogma, strange to the official teaching of the church. Paneresis is when the church accepts all those heresis as true, which is even worst.... my repentance...
What are you talking about ??? Paisios was a supporter of ecumenism ... He was supporting Bartholomew's who is a freemason and they both supporting heresy ... So stop calling paisios a saint... You are blaspheming by saying that ... paisios and Bartholomew's both said that the Quran is a very holy book ... And they bowd to it..
So stop spreading rubbish when you don't know what you're talking about ...
What is this in response to, a youtube message or the video? No where in the video is there a defense of Elder Paisios.
Is metropolitan Demetrios in communion with bishop Akakios from Serbia?
Although he knows of Bishop Akakios, they are not in Eucharistic Communion.
Isn't the GOC schismatic to the Orthodox Church? 🤨
No.
Schismatic is thrown around too much. The GOC(K), is taking the position of St Maximos of a complete separation from heresy. There are other approaches, but they seem to be within their rights to do so.
It is not. It holds the true way of Orthodoxy as is. Read Blessed Serafim Alexiev 's book on Orthodoxy and Ecumenism. Ecumenism IS a heresy. GOC preserves Christianity when the Ecumenical movement is taking over churches such as the OCA, the Greek Church in America, Antiochian, etc etc etc
@@ryrocks9487 Schism is breaking from the body of the One True Church. By creating their own Synod (upon synod, upon synod) losing count now, they have well and truly broken away from the body of the church. Simple. I am not saying they are not staunch defenders of the faith, more so then our current Ecumenists, however if the simply went about the correct way of things, there would be no schism. Apotixisi for one, walling-off they could have done.
I do not understand this sounds exactly like the teaching of the Antiochian , Greek and other orthodox Christian’s .
May God unite all Orthodox Christians who believe the Truth.
I'd listen, but that would be...ECUMENICAL.
Well, one could argue that everything after the Nazorean Essenes are a heresy 🙄
His eminence ? Seems a little strong bro.
Orthodox Church.
Stay away from the latins !
Even if the Latins are completely wrong, Jesus ate with sinners and tax collectors. You sound like the Pharisee in that story.
@@theTavis01 remember in scripture where we are told to stay away from those idle in tradition?
@@mariorizkallah5383 feel free to quote a verse and tell me why you think it's relevant
@@theTavis01 Bill, I truly think you misunderstand what Ecumenism is actually all about.
Ecumenism is Spiritual Adultery and this is also why we are unable to share communion with Protestants and Roman Catholics.