Collapse of the Titans
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
- Peak Moment 202: Learn from the Soviets - personal relationships are the best currency, says Russian-born Dmitry Orlov, the author of "Reinventing Collapse: The Soviet Example and American Prospects." The American empire is following the USSR into collapse, he asserts, with financial collapse happening first, followed by commercial and then political collapse. Dmitry, an America resident for several decades, suggests lowering our needs and expectations and replacing money transactions with barter and exchanges. [www.cluborlov.com]
Best advise ever. Will never forget his words spoken from a true visionary. Thanks for the interview.
Orlov is a genius...........................Brilliant guest
One of the best shows I've seen. Thanks. I will definitely pick up the two books mentioned.
I'm happy to say that I'm in a community that is already doing a lot of these things... AND I have taken steps to simplify my life and am still paring it down, starting with ditching the "regular job" for a consulting business, not buying anything new, bartering and eating a more local and sustainable diet.
what a wonderful video. The key thought for me from the video is to lower our standards. That is not what our society wants to hear but there is nothing wrong with not wanting as much. I left a job in 2010 and am making half the money and doing just fine. I have never owned a home and now I rent a room from a friend. I let my car go back and paid a family member $100 for a truck. There are tons of options if people would only be willing to explore them.
11:25 "become idle, and out of that idleness comes the realization of the very few thing you actually need to do/get."
so true, funny how it seems.
Zero death isn't possible. If you eat, something had to die. Either a plant or an animal died directly, or else got displaced (which often results in extinctions). If you don't grow your own food, then you also have responsibility for the petroleum used to transport your food an average of 1500 miles for most consumers.
I applaud your wish to reduce animal suffering. We should be responsible with our impact. But there is ALWAYS an impact.
Dmitry Orlov brings forth subject matter as important as dis Gandhi, stephan Moleneux.
@gaiagale Actually, the standards sets by the consumer society are false. Getting rid of the crappy food and useless junk and using your own creativity and resourcefulness is actually raising your standards, not lowering them!
It's ok - denial and anger are the first stages of grief.
This is so true.
the family is an important social security support in" poor" countries.they r rich in family life.
it was a financial meltdown and a political. Russia still has its resources ... and there are still there even growing.
so wait what?!
Walmart isn't that inexpensive anymore, in fact, their food prices are more than the supermarket now, or the same price...You can compete with Walmart, you just have to sell what they don't and have products that people want...
If I wanted to live life simply I'd go camping, no electricity, no toilet, no plumbing, no air conditioning etc. But I'd rather have those things on a daily basis...Camping is fine for about a week...With that said, I don't live in a city, I'm in a rural area, but I have home, indoor plumbing, electricity etc...
I like the latest video and... that author seems to me to be missing some recognition of the extent of the political (and economic) shift underway. There is soaring opportunity as well as soaring risk, including things like civil disorder.
I use the term "organized coercion" several times in the following post from today. I do not use it with condemnation or fear. It is a simple reality. Governments are all operations of organized coercion.
Keep up the great work, peak moment.
Excellent video. The times are definitely changing, for the better.
Still think it’s for the better?
@anglinthemtns
Here in México we don´t hear much about the ones who don´t send money and do hear a lot from those who do who are many. Many others become individualistic and fully asimilate to american mainstream culture.
GSOB
This would be more useful without the background noise
@gaiagale It's rare to hear the word "citizen" these days. We are regarded as "consumers", mere components in a massive machine that turns resources into profit. Even our own living energy is regarded as a consumable by the "human resources" departments of the corporations that seek to own the world. We have a duty to our descendents to reclaim our lives. We know how to design highly functional, sustainable, not-for-profit forage systems, and foraging is indeed fun. It's also enlivening.
Thank you for your program.
There are no degrees of unique
unique means being the only one of its kind; unlike anything else
2017-03-08 13:28:06.31 GMT +7
Great vid.
I living free in a solar escaper RV, best life ever, better than most losers loser jobs and apartments having to surround themselves with useless junk for insecurity
@lordhasen. Collapse may not itself be a physical law, but the conditions bringing on collapse DO follow physical laws. Overpopulation and overconsumption of non-renewable resources...means we'll have less (and more expensive) oil, water. Every civilization has come done because they demanded more resources than their environment could provide. Pretty close to a physical law...
Good interview!
Good video
@ryanbrooks11388, this interview was actually taped on the Nevada County fairgrounds in Grass Valley. We try to make shows relaxing and intimate. ...I agree with your response to shufang100 about collapse coming more quickly than we expect. Last weekend we taped Chris Martenson, who shows we're experiencing an ever-accelerating pace due to exponential rises in population, exponential use of resources, exponential debt levels. Unprecedented in human history.
What are you referring to as B.S.?
thnx quite enjoyable
I just wish to say that theres a comment re. illegal immigrants & Hispanics & that Hispanics do things for their families. This is not always the case. I wish to comment that Mexicans & Hispanics are different & there are multiple realities w/in Hispanic culture & Mexican culture & Caucasian American culture- lets not forget that females in general are not treated as equally w/in Latin culture so its basically the women holding-up a family or broken family. Let's not romanticize reality plz!
Those operations of organized coercion that respond most "appropriately" to the emerging global economic shift (which will vary from place to place and time to time) will either dissolve or be replaced. Some will thrive and some will not.
That author's perspective is relatively simple and clear and unbiased, compared to some other guests you have interviewed. But "how far down the rabbit hole" are you willing to go?
How to sh*t in the Woods baby! :D
@manilaenglish
I have personally withnesed the oposite. But yes, it is hard to know who to thrust, specially in certain places. Anyway, treating people with respect is free so even if they don´t live to your expectations afterward you have lost nothing.
The Nevada County fairgrounds in California. It's a wonderful community.
@144jr144
He deals with many oportunities in his blog!
We tend to think the grass is greener elsewhere & that other cultures are doing so much more than our own- this is false. I think the same amount of people are good & bad everywhere. The EU bans the use of Atrazine but Switzerland still sells it to the US & others including New Zealand. We tend to criticize our environment but the corps are everywhere doing the same thing... Do Americans not help their friends/family but only the Mexicans who may care little about others except their families?
@MrHeggna, wow that's quite fatalistic! You're saying humans won't change until it's too late. I hope a lot of people wake up and do what they can to stop the destruction of the planet. And begin to do the reforesting and local-scale perennial polycultures food production, so there's potential for some humans and non-humans to continue.
It is not possible to "lower our expectations." Our expectation, at the very least, is to survive. In order for us to survive, what little is left of nature will HAVE to be killed off. And then man too will die away. In order for the planet to survive, and a few of us along with it, our expectations will have to be set at less than what it takes to survive. Therefore, it is not possible to lower expectations. Therefore, the brutish future we all dread will be upon us.
His comments on "Americans need to reduce their standards" are odd to me. He is talking about urban and suburban life and seems to have "a chip on his shoulder." Millions of people in the US, Japan, the EU, and even Bombay/Mumbai are already living at collapsing standards and aren't going to quit their jobs. His idealism may be attractive, but... it may be irrelevant for many.
I really dont like this "collaps is unstoppable" . Collaps is not like a physical law .
Perhaps it is--entropy, the second law of thermodynamics.
with record low temperatures this year i think the video needs to be tossed out haha
This is pretty extreme. Dont eat meat. Switch to rice and beans. How do you propose to live if you don't live in an apartment our house? In cottage in the forest with no running water and electricity?
cottage in the forest? You'll have to buy the land and building materials. Or you could squat until you get evicted, maybe in the middle of winter. Maybe I could sum up his advice as "just give gifts to each other and nobody work to create those gifts." Am I the only one who sees the flaw in this logic? I see problems with his sailboat strategy too. It is not nearly so simple as he suggests.
Yep let's all slip into the dark ages again! Wake of and figure out how to keep the most tech and industry that can be kept going. This madness of becoming a poor villager is nuts. We do have to learn what we really need that is true. But! I am not ready to move to the grass hut and so on.