How the USSR and China became enemies again - Cold War DOCUMENTARY
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Our historical documentary series on the history of the Cold War continues with a video on the second Sino-Soviet split, as we see how the USSR and China became enemies in the post-Stalin period, as Khrushchev and Brezhnev also had problems with Mao.
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"We are upset that you didn't nuke the US so we will mend relations with the US."
Gotta love realpolitik.
Sigh, "It is what it is" never changes.
Yeah that's one thing I don't understand. The Chinese wanted to stick it to the Soviets by...allowing their workers to be exploited by companies from the biggest Capitalist power in the world? 🤔
Hehehe
Mao 60s: "You traitor to socialism sleeping with Capitalist America, just start nuclear war already, whats the big deal"
Mao 70s: "Hey America, you want to help us against the USSR,?"
This is the bit that is confusing me. How could Mao be giving Russia a hard time over not starting a war, with the capitalist pig dogs, when he then let's Nixon and the US visit China to hang out.
@@xunqianbaidu6917 the Chinese governmnet stands for nothing. They will adopt any position, befriend any enemy, steal from any ally, harvest the organs of their own people, etc to amass and secure more power. You saw it with mao, you see it today.
@@Monkey_SK Because at that point in the Cold War (1972), Sino-Soviet relations were bad enough to the point of armed conflict along the border for the US to take advantage of, compared to 1962 when communist solidarity was still strong (the video explains this)
@@ftwcrazyman perhaps you didn't understand the question. Mao accused the USSR of not being proper communists, for not starting a war with the US and trying to Peacefully exist. That's hardline. Yet Mao does the exact same thing years later, where are his hardline ideas then?
Did anyone in the USSR say hand on, you're a fraud!
@@Monkey_SK It's just politics. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. At this point, they both realised that an armed conflict with the West would result in either being crushed in a conventional war or the conflict going nuclear. In either case, they're screwed. So instead of fighting the West, it was better to fight for dominance of the communist world. To do this, Mao accused Khrushchev of not being communist enough, thus other nations should look to Beijing and not Moscow for leadership. By the time of the Kissinger/Nixon detante, it was pretty clear that the results of the confrontation with Moscow were mixed, so why keep up the front? Especially if greater economic advantage, stemming from a thawing with the West, would allow China to build a larger military and, through development grants, influence other communist countries. Remember that most communist countries, that weren't facing direct invasion from the Soviet Union, were happy playing each power off against each other for maximum advantage.
I just like the fact how China condemn the Soviet Union for its peaceful coexistence stance and wanted it to be more confrontational, yet were happy to warm relations with the US in the 1970s if it meant opposing the Soviet Union. Geopolitics is the gift that keeps on giving!
Bait and switch.
This is by far one of our favorite historical channels.
I was an extremely ignorant man when it came to soviet culture, this channel has opened my mind to some fascinating videos :)
I lived it. Semper Fidelis! 🦅🌎⚓
Just let me know when you're ready to start the revolution, on behalf of the proletariat, and give the workers ownership of the means of production.
I need to know, so I'll have time to escape. I'm part of the yacht-owning class and bourgeoisie capitalist. An elitist like me wouldn't survive a revolt. If there's no bread, let them eat Russian 🍰. Problem solved.
I'd rather die then leave near communism after watching the videos :)
There’s a channel called the Ushanka Show by a man named Sergei who grew up in the Soviet Union. He talks about soviet culture a lot if you want to learn more
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Jesus Mao, you need to chill out bro.
He wasn't wrong about Russia though. Their interests were not aligned anymore then, than they are today.
The wrong side of the split won out in the end
Have a snickers mao, cause you are not you when your hungry
It was a very backward country regarding economy and industry.
Jesus Mao? If that isn't already a punk band it is now. We will rip off Marilyn Manson songs and play them like ELO.
Not the least bit surprised that relationships between countries during the Cold War were exceedingly complex. But this video added a new dimension to that understanding. Nice video.
Never in a million years I don't understand how this channel is still having less views, the research and dedication makes it fun to watch these videos. He deserves 10 million views already.
Stats are brilliant!!
People are getting sick of American propaganda.
@@ProleCenter uhhuh, guy with soviet iconography as a profile picture. i am certain your bias is just not there
@Juggylocko It is absolutely there. As you can see, I make no attempt to hide it. You have to think for yourself and make up your own mind what the truth is.
What's interesting for you may not be interesting for others
BTW, the rift between the USSR and China began during the Korean War, Mao wanted Stalin to launch the final war between Communism and Capitalism.
Where did you hear that?
@@na-lm1pk A documentary on the Korean war.
@@StalinTheMan0fSteel Stalin disliked Mao Zedong from the beginning. Mao Zedong marginalized the Soviet power agents within the CCP, and Stalin had always worried that Mao Zedong would be as difficult to control as Tito (his worries proved to be correct). Stalin preferred Chiang Kai-shek, and the Soviet Union provided far more aid to the KMT than to the CCP.
@@noahpeng1689 True. Stalin did make a goodwill gesture toward Mao by exposing his own Chinese agent in the Chinese Politburo, who Mao then had arrested and shot.
Dzughashvili the man of iron
Maybe a video on Cambodia next?
Enjoying another episode in my 25th birthday 🥳🎂
Many happy returns.
I hope today's a great day for you. Stay cool because just like in the *Cold War,* it won't take much for climate change to make it *HOT.*
Mao once told Khrushchev he was willing to sacrifice 400 million Chinese for the USSR to win a nuclear war with the US
Perhaps ironic, decades later, didn't the United States thru diplomacy (Nixon/Kessinger), help prevent a nuclear war between the Soviet Union and China?
Thank you! I really enjoy focusing on certain events and topics broken up in a specific time frame rather than huge generalizations that lack details of specific decades and explaining how things developed. Again, thank you so much!
Castro was Pro-Soviet while Che was Pro-Mao. I think that there also some armed groups that were communist that were pro-Beijing in Afghanistan and Nicaragua during the 1980's.
I love this video! I never saw the Cold War era this way until today. Thank you!!
Love this channel
Thanks
I was going to skip the ad like I usually do but since it isn't another friggin Established Titles ad, I'll humor this one.
Amazing video guys!! Could you please post a link to Part I in the description by chance? I'm only asking for anyone new, I have no problem looking it up tho! Well worth it!
Can't wait for a video on the Sino-Vietnam War of 1979!
Thank you David for another interesting video. Would it be possible to do one on the struggles within NATO during the cold war, for example the exit of France?
France left the nato unified command, not nato. Greece has also left the nato unified command, but both countries have rejoined.
Very interesting video! I would love to see a video on Cambodia next
Enjoy the channel. Subscribed today.
Suggestion: Could you do some videos on the Angolan Civil War from 1975-2002?
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As someone who doesn’t see the Soviet Union as an antagonist, Mao’s China definitely would have put us in an MAD situation. Either because he was true kool-aid drinker or was purely ignorant of the MAD tensity and just ignored the death consequences.
Very ignorant
That reminds me in how my country, Chile, during Pinochet's dictatorship had really good relations with China in part because it wasn't a Soviet satellite like Cuba. Or Allende's administration in the same situation with Francoist Spain 😅
7:50 My grandpa fought the Chinese at the Kazakh-Chinese border in Jalanaskól in 1969
You folks are Russian slaves even today lmao.
Kissinger ...history's greatest monster? He's like #378 on the list!
Yeah, definitely not even close.
They were fighting over the international spoils of being the true arbiter of Communist thought. Not the petty indulgence of a current dictator.
Interesting!
Did the host just say, "When we last left our HEROS."(1:01)? Interesting words, Comrade David!
Mao is a hero and a legend. If he was white, he would be a figure comparable to napoleon
Leaders die, regimes change, but the basic needs and desires of people never do. The form of government that best understands this, will remain in power forever.
If only you didn't need to go to war in order to "show/prove" force your political, economic, etc systems obvious superiority
Nothing says "we have the best system of (whatever) like invading another country just to force your "superior" systems on another country...
And yes this comment extends past the topic this video covers..
However this is a great video that is a good follow up to the original
Looking forward to more in-depth videos on the Sino-Soviet split, or the Soviet-Sink split (whatever way whoever reads this prefers)
Interesting. Things are a lot more complicated in reality it turns out :)
Name a more iconic pair than leftists and infighting
Centrists and fascists
@@xunqianbaidu6917 shut up liberal
I very much enjoy these videos about China during the Cold War. I feel like there's a ton I don't know about the subject. Is there anything about Maoism in particular that made the PRC government so against peaceful coexistence? Thank you for any answers, and thank you to the video creators for another excellent episode!
God be with you out there everybody! ✝️ :)
Henry Kissinger summarized Mao Zedong’s diplomatic strategy: provoking a struggle between the Soviet Union and the United States to strive for opportunities for peaceful development for China.
I'm decently versed on the Cold War (having lived through a few decades of it), but the channel always has some bits I didn't know.
It's always cool to be able to see you guys put out a new video and get excited about learning some new things about a time period I like to study. Thanks to everyone involved (take some of the sponsor money and buy everyone on staff some Timmy's they deserve it).
thank you and we are glad you are enjoying the videos!
@@TheColdWarTV been watching and sharing your vids for 2 or 3 years now.
I know the first vid from here I saw was on the war in Korea. Like the War of 1812 it's a war that Americans seem to have forgotten about.
I dont think Henry Kissinger is that bad haha if you guys havent done so yet, maybe do a biography video on him. He was in several rather high profile events.
I only knew about Damansky Island because it was mentioned in season 4 of Stranger Things
Folks, why are your playlists all backwards?
I mean, shouldn't they contain the episodes in chronological order, starting with the oldest one?
That would make binge watching your channel so much easier.
I have no idea why the USSR kept US concessions after the Cuban Crisis a secret, it did nothing to harm them to not get the removal of weapons from Turkey in writing
I thought the US was the one that wanted the withdrawal of nukes on the low. I'm not even sure basing them there was public knowledge at the time, and JFK probably wanted to keep attention on the "out of our backyard" thing as it made him look good to the public.
We’ve already made it to this?!?!?
"Not from a Biden"
I grew up in the USSR during Khruszev- Mao spat in the late 60s. And I remember seeing documentaries about 3 Chinese armed excursions into Siberia. Thanks to many military bases around Vladivostok and Sakhalin, Soviets were ready to repel Chinese w/o engagement during the 3rd and the last encounter. Chinese just simply ran.
Most wonderful explaining ,documentary coverage this suspected politician phenomenon inside ( communism world 🌎)thanks for sharing
Zhou En lai. Pronounced like Joe Stalin. Zhou= Joe. Chinese Ou= English O
🙏🏼
This is why “Chou”, while not 100% accurate, is a damn sight better than what the video said, sadly.
Nobody cares
@@dinkydaug3005 I'd say about a billion people do.
Personally I think I would find it very amusing in an alternate time line to see what happened if the 2 had actually gone to war. Probably be better than in this time line where China still exists and is the same pain in the ass as they have always been
I’d rather go back and let Germany and Japan win WW2. No more Russia or China. And no communism either.
Please do a video on iran crisis of 1946.
Have you seen this one?
ruclips.net/video/8JZBtTGFQpI/видео.html
@@ritemolawbks8012 ohh yes I forgot
This week surely you should have said said of red?
2:36 I ship it!
Zh in Zhen Bao pronounced like J in Jenny. en is like "un" in under. Chinese Zh = English "J." The sound the narrator made doesn't exist in Mandarin Chinese.
The videos on this channel keep getting better and better while the comment section... well... seems to be doing the opposite of that. 🤣
The Stalin-Tito split resulted in Yugoslavia receiving material aid from the West. Looks to me like the PRC followed suit.
Thank you for the view from Moscow
The legendary kissing unibrow @ 2:30.
A fascinating video. However I thought the Chinese claim on Siberian territory was much larger than one island in a river and the land immediately around it. I thought in fact that it extended to most or all of the hatched regions on the map at 3:01. Can anyone comment on this?
Beijing didn't make claims to the land, they only wanted acknowledgement that the land had been obtained by the Russian Empire through unequal means when the Qing Dynasty was at its weakest. What they would have done with that acknowledgement if given is anybody's guess, but at the time, they weren't laying claim to the land.
History's greatest monster? You're really getting hyperbolic with these things.
Kissinger the Monster. Fueled by the souls of his countless victims he remains amongst the living.
Excellent video 📹
The CCP China 🇨🇳 worried USSR and today even Russia 🇷🇺.
The Russians realised the Chinese vould destroy the Tran-Siberian Railway 🛤.
So the USSR built a new one
BAM railway. North of Lake Baikal.
Cost the USSR, 30 billion dollars 💵.
Most expensive project.
China today is no longer communist
Plus Russia got bombed by uk
Imagine the hits and money you would MAKE if people could only watch your videos in order
Henry Kissinger is still alive
No one in the White House gives a fuck about him, if this wasn't the case, they would have followed his advise and not force a war with Russia.
"Henry Kissinger is still alive."
Unfortunately. :/
@@eermirosemh8339 the USSR and Russia are different... one is much smaller and weaker. No war is being forced, they don't want war with NATO for good reason.
@@TheBucketSkill The rapid expansion of NATO in the direction of Russia isn't a act of provocation?
Imagine watching a guy with a serious expression and a machete in hand walking towards you and not taking protective measures...
This reads like a conspiracy theory
8:30 😂😂💀
6:00. You can see Kim Il Sung’s big lump behind his neck already (Late 60s ?). Beijing made no attempt to hide it from the footage.
That's mainly because of the bitter feud between Mao and Kim. Kim basically blew off Chinese intervention after the Korean War, which still is the case.
Noted warmonger Kissinger, beautiful
1:00 Propaganda war
2:51 1969 border conflict
7:59 US response
9:23 Supporting opposing factions in Cambodia, Vietnam, Angola, Ethiopia & Somalia etc.
I imagine if the Chinese and Soviets had gone all out against each other, the US would have slung material to the Chinese and the Europeans would sling material to the Soviets, but both coordinate to make sure the war lasted as long as possible but neither would win an outright victory.
Since European powers founded NATO to keep the Soviets out of western Europe. I think they'd have been more likely to sit on the side lines and pray the Soviets lost.
@@scottkrater2131 no I think Europeans would take advantage alongside Americans and destroy ussr once and for all with China.
@@scottkrater2131user is now gone
And now they are weak af
दोनों एक से बढ़ कर एक , आज अपनों से सावधान।
Russia, and its modern form as a rump state of the Soviet Union, has long had a conflicted relationship with the West. This video is wonderful in that it shows that even with countries with which it supposedly shares a great deal of ideology there is still a sense of distrust.
Let's not forget Afghanistan and the split there
Man Mao was very ignorant
Therefore, the Soviet Union disintegrated, China can still stand
@@na-lm1pkthat's because they elected the most powerful leader called xi Jing ping and deng Xiaoping
I would not touch omaze
Lmao Mao was not an empathetic man. Don't want to call him dumb but if he actually thought he could win a war against the USSR without nuclear weapons.... LOL
Algorithm
Too bad the Republic of China didn't use this chance to deepen their ties with the USSR
They did. Many years later, the media asked whether it was true that the Soviet Union supported ROC in counterattacking the mainland. Chiang Ching-kuo did not deny it.
Why USSR never invaded Yugoslavia ?
Noted warmonger?
Your bias is apparent.
Your bias is apparent.
What war did Mao ever win? LMFAO! Not a great general just at the right place at the right time.
those who glorifies communism, especially those living in the west, need to see your videos and understand what communism really was. indeed everybody was equal but equal in the dirt
Those who glorify england and america need to see only those who are pure white equal. Never forgot, it was capitalism, england, and america that committed the most genocide, the most evil cultures, the most evil people's. Your days as an evil empire, enjoy them while they last
@@FrankieJames7 every expansionist 'empire' did genocides, but remember, USSR and China did it against their own people. And I don't care if capitalism go down, but remeber what happened when white people got mad in the past
Yes, their economic system was shit, but those who glorify Capitalism are in no position to speak about any other system since Capitalism is equally terrible if not worse than a Communism.
@@1997lordofdoom Capitalism, the true one, with a free market, not the shit it is today, work. What we have today is oligarchy.
No no no. Henry Kissinger was no saint but neither was he a "war monger". Unsubscribing from your channel. I cannot support uncalled for cheap shots and that is all that was.