@@JP-rk6gw not really, as chinese. i think. back to 60 yrs ago, ppl have faith , have spirits. ppl believed in gov and hold the hope to the future . today , china is essentially grown up to be a bureaucratic capitalism country. people's mindset is different
My father spent years of his time in the desert and mountains away from our home in Beijing. Tens of thousands scientists, engineers, workers were involved in the project. My father was one of the engineers.
@25:34 It wasn't just the broken treaty, The USSR and PRC were in open ground battles in Manchuria during this time. So from the Chinese perspective, they were caught between 2 nuclear armed enemies (three if you count England, a former colonial invader), which was highly motivational and worth the cost even during the worst of the "Grate leap forward", from their perspective. I know you hit on that, but I don't think you really emphasized that context enough.
@@ShengYu1995 It was an ongoing thing basically. Russia invaded Xinjiang in 1944, and that was, from the back of my head, Russia's 6th invasion of China.
Imagine my surprise to see, at 7:40, in a video about the Chinese atomic bomb, a photograph showing the Irish Taoiseach, Eamonn de Valera, sitting in the centre of the front row! Alongside Arthur Eddington, Paul Dirac and Erwin Schrodinger. It's remarkable that Peng Huanwu, who went on to be one of the leaders of the Chinese nuclear weapons programme, was based at the Dublin Institute of Advanced Studies in the early 1940s, and that this meeting of eminent physicists took place there in 1942, in the midst of the largest war ever to occur in Europe.
Yeah a lot of problems in Ireland, Rental prices, lack of house development, infrastructure stagnation is caused by socialist policies ther unfortunately same goes with most of EU nations and UK as well, they had always been backstabbers to the nations of the west , even US is run by traitors
The really hard part of developing atomic weapons isn't the design, it is having the industrial capacity to produce the materials necessary. If you look at the budget of the Manhattan Project, Los Alamos + R&D was only 7.5% of the entire budget. The rest was mostly the industrial infrastructure to produce the enriched uranium and plutonium. The real utility of Soviet aid was the development of the industrial infrastructure that enabled the development of nuclear weapons, and not transfers of specific knowledge about nuclear weapon design.
The science and R&D are just as important in building those machines and infrastructure to make the bomb. The R&D and planning of building a skyscraper may also be dwarfed by the costs associated with actually building it but you can’t have one without the other. The cost does not necessarily = the importance.
@@hollandoats4738 theyare both important. But by the 60s a nuclear bomb wasn’t as cutting edge as it once was in 30s and 40s. It was just a matter of copying much more instead of figuring out the physics and engineering from scratch.
It's the design, bro. Recommended reading: _Plutonium, A History of the World's Most Dangerous Element._ The R&D Los Alamos financed involved the world's smartest men, full stop. There's a very conspicuous reason why Nobel prizes get awarded in a proportion that is fantastically out of whack with China's population, especially if you ignore awards that are given for accomplishments that are fundamentally engineering as opposed to invention or theory. Hindsight, such as concerning the development of the bomb, does not alter this reality. China are conspicuously aware of this discrepancy; it's part of the reason why they're so desperate to make a name in scientific papers that they willfully flood publications with tripe and outright fraud.
@@Asterra2 Funny.If you think China adds lies to your paper, then you should read papers written by Chinese people well, because lies cannot make DF-21
Very good video, as always. Just one small correction: 21:45 says: _"The key issue the Chinese bomb design needed to do was to properly synchronize the high explosives so to kickstart a series of nuclear chain reactions. A bad timing issue means stray neutrons running around - a premature neutron burst resulting in an overall unsatisfactory performance."_ The story is a little bit more nuanced. First, multiple detonators need to fire simultaneously within about a microsecond, simply because without this the symmetrical implosion does not happen, and the material does not get compressed to a sufficiently supercritical state for a rapid chain reaction. Second, the chain reaction needs to start at the precise moment this supercritical state is achieved -- not sooner, not later. To prevent premature chain reaction, the compression of plutonium needs to be much more rapid than the rate at which neutrons happen spontaneously. This is the whole point why explosively driven compression is used for plutonium -- to make it quick, because in plutonium there is a high rate of spontaneous fission. For uranium this aspect is not important, because there is no such background. But using implosion for uranium allows to make a bomb from several times smaller amount of uranium. (The explosives actually compress the metal, and a smaller amount can be made supercritical.) That is why China used this method. To start the reaction at the moment of greatest supercriticality, a powerful source of neutrons must fire at exactly the right moment, again with the precision of a microsecond or so. In the first nuclear bombs the neutron source was a mechanical device in the middle of the bomb, and it was set off by the implosion itself mixing different materials in the source. This automatically guaranteed correct timing. In the later bombs, an electronic neutron generator was used instead, located outside of the fissile material. This required firing the pulse of neutrons with a carefully calculated delay after firing the detonators.
I have to correct you here. Such weapons have never been created as those reactions are pure fantasy. But it is funny that guys like you buy propaganda about them and parrot it.
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 it would "fizzle"- (thats the term). maybe some limited chain reaction, but mostly, an explosive disassembly of your expensive nuclear device. (depending on how bad your synchronization is, and i guess how optimized the design- a fat man spherical implosion or two- point explosive lens is propaply more robust than a miniaturized nuke )
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Since a few decades ago, US bombs are specifically designed for safety in accidents, such that they would not produce a nuclear explosion if only a single detonator fires. This is called "one point safe design". This requires certain amount of effort to achieve. In weapons that are not one point safe, even an asymmetrical implosion can result in a sizable nuclear yield, albeit typically much reduced compared to the full scale explosion. Older US weapons were not necessarily one point safe, and it is not known whether weapons of other countries are.
Interestingly enough, China celebrates their acquisition of nukes together with their accomplishment of launching a satellite into space (Two Bombs, One Satellite), and my ears perked up when you said nuke development was done at Jiuquan because that’s also where they first launched satellite into orbit (and continues to be a popular launch site).
It's all about a spirit of beating all challenges, a persistent characteristic of the Chinese govt from the days of their revolution to the Long March and so it goes. This is part reason why Napoleon suggested it’s best to let the dragon lie.
Qian Xuesen, or Hsue-shen Tsien, was a Chinese aerospace engineer and cyberneticist who made significant contributions to the field of aerodynamics and established engineering cybernetics. He moved to the US to study at MIT, from where he was recruited to join Theodore von Kármán's group at Caltech. Wikipedia, He was not a nuclear physicist
He in the end was driven out of the US due to blatant racial discrimination which backfired disastrously as he joined and became the head of the PRC's nascent missile programmes.
#nichilasmaude Because communists do not steal property especialy intelectual... HAHA The programmer who wrote the Tetris game (in his spare time) didn't get a cent until the USSR collapsed even though the West was paying for the right to use the program? Your comment is blatant racial discriminational lie and anyone with little will to check it can confirm it ->Chien-Shiung Wu (Chinese: 吳健雄) -> She was important scientist in Manhattan Project -> she was Chinese -> she was from China -> she was a woman -> no-one kicked her out->and i have the feeling that she helped with development of China attomic weapond even if Asianometry did not found any info about it... ->she wanted to be buried in China...
Yes, he is mostly known in China as the 'Father of China's Space Program'. There's a big, new-ish museum dedicated to him at Shanghai's Jiaotong University. Nicely designed building, by the way.
This guy has no idea whatsoever how the Chinese got the atomic bomb. When the Jewish Rosenberg couple stolen the atomic bomb planes, and sold it to the Soviet Union, they also gave the patent to Israel. Israel had the plans how to make the atomic bomb, but not the necessary elements, or the materials. China had them both. Therefore Israel and China combined their possessions, and made the atomic bomb together. That is how Israel and China got the atomic bomb in about the same time.
It was...as with almost everything Chinese, there they took from America, even America's education. You should not be able to study nuclear physics and then go to a different country to help build their nuclear ambitions as China and Israel benefited.
Yes, a co-founder of “Jet Propulsion Laboratory” in 1943, 15 years before the founding of NASA. In those days, “jet propulsion” was a euphemism for rocket propulsion. (The engine produces a powerful jet of gas.)
I remember my friend telling me about how his grandad, who was a party member, illegally went to see the first atomic bomb test. I wish I got to talk to him, but he was living in Chongqing while my friend and I were in Beijing at the time. Really fascinating history, glad that you made a video covering it.
Another fun story: the factory which is part of the project, was on the edge of shut down due to lack of funding, so they use those centrifuges to make ice cream.... It was called 504 ice cream lol
It is weird how beliefs outlive people. People who believed in national socialism in 1939 are dead yet people who love national socialism are alive today. Nukes do make a war costly, high risk, high reward. They are so powerful that earth would be destroyed forever.
This will be China once it catches up in EUV and semiconductors, "Exceptionalism" exists everywhere, the key factor in anything is to know if it's possible, if we know it's possible, brilliant minds will do it, and China has plenty.
They will have to invent their own optics industry aswell, if it is possible for China to catch up they will need to do the work of several nations and decades of research in the next few years and given how many chip founders go bankrupt after wasting billions of RMB I cant see this happening. There is a reason why EUV tech is only know and controlled by a few companies.
The Chinese keep saying with a chuckle that there's nothing godly or supernatural, it's all human creations that can be reproduced by whoever has the will and the resources. I don't think they ever believed in exceptionalism and they're starting to rub it in the muricans faces.
@@katiebarber407 Not exactly, China is a leading manufacturing place, it's really good in plenty of areas such as material science and such, but it has areas to catch up at the very high end (where most profit is located). One of those areas is chip manufacturing, first of all you need 3 requirements to manufacture a Chip, The ability to design a Chip (China does have this), access to commonly used architectures today (X86 or ARM, both propietary of the west, China no longer possesses access to this at least not for important stuff), and lastly, semiconductors, which is what Chips are made of. In the case of Design as I said China has the expertise and can design advanced Chips fairly easily, in the case of architecture, this is harder, because even though China knows how to do stuff in those architectures, they cannot officially do it because of licensing problems, so they are switching ATM to RISC-V which is an alternative architecture which is open source and won't suffer from licensing issues and or blacklisting by America or its allies. Lastly, the most important and hardest one is semiconductors. Right now China can reliably make semi modern semiconductors with decent yield, the problem starts when you need ones for more advanced applications, such as supercomputers, AI Chips or even the latest consumer CPUs. They are on sub 10nm (actually 5nm and lower), China has managed to design and produce 7nm semiconductors but with low yield, let alone anything below that. Reason? They lack the tools to make them. China does not posses DUV (up to around 2010s) (although it's working on these), let alone EUV machines (made by ASML utilizing like 100k parts from different countries, including the US), this is the biggest hurdle to China, it needs to produce these. Japan was the leader in DUV in the 90s but then US trade war and restrictions made Japan unable to cooperate with America in EUV design, then America cooperated instead with the netherlands and ASML managed to produce EUV, Nikon (Japan) almost got there, stopped at the 2nd prototype, but they gave up cause it was too late/too expensive mid 2008-2011 economic crisis. China is currently on a massive effort to make these machines, but it will likely take them maybe to close to 2030(?) to get close to the west, unless of course a breakthrough happens for even smaller semiconductor node sizes, but even then they would still need to catch up in EUV to produce stuff that requires those nodes.
Today, it’s semiconductor, very similar situation, the Americans still the main reason why China need the advanced chips technology but the actual factor that propel China needs to achieve the breakthrough as soon as possible is not Russia technical help but the absent of Netherland and Japan equipments. Chinese experts working in US still receive same treatments from the Americans, many coming back to help the motherland, history proven China can achieve anything if they fully put their efforts into it.
Yes, the more they steal IP from other countries & commit corporate espionage, they'll eventually steal enough to catch up! Too bad creating nothing of your own leads to zero soft power or influence outside of your own country
i dont think semi conductors are that easy . amercians are like far far ahead of any country in semi conductor technology , i learned somewhere ibm has created on of the brilliant semi conductors , and figuring out the machine which prints on fab is made in netherlands and america now being active in this field is not possible for chinese , it might take them decades , in that much time americans will be far more ahead of them , people underestimate american technology leap compared to rest of the world combined .
@@opai1821 u got so much confident on Americunt technology but even Americunts got no confident, they imposes sanction after sanction until they no longer got any bullet left to do anything to China. Lol.
I remember studying the Karman-Tsien compressibility correction rule in gas dynamics (aerodynamics) class in 1968 at Manchester University, UK. It was disgraceful that Prof Theodore von Karman never supported his protege Dr Hsueh-Shen Tsien during Sen. McCarthy's disgusting trials. Dr Tsien's bachelor degree in China was in railway engineering. Dr Tsien was a prolific researcher - not just in fluid mechanics. He also wrote several papers in solid mechanics (e.g. warping of solid hollow tubes etc.). A full account of his life and work can be found in the book "Thread of the Silkworm" by Iris Chang.
At least in China, one of the hyper sonic ballistic reentry method was named after him. Which is a key to modern hypersonic missiles. I think that method is like bouncing multiple time with atmosphere, which not only greatly increase the range, but also make the missile much harder to intercept.
In Europe and the United States, at least among the English speaking people, deep-rooted racial discrimination and the idea of a superior ethnic group remain deeply ingrained. France, Germany, and even Iran are the same, they still feel that the Chinese are inferior. This is a cultural imprint left by the colonial era that lasted for 400 years, and it is difficult to easily remove them.
Thank you, I know a lot about the American, British, Russian, and Israel's nuclear weapons development efforts as I am an electrical engineer, I am by nature fascinated by such high technology projects as this. This has highlighted me about something I knew very little. I was not aware of their Gaseous diffusion plant, at their Lanzhou Nuclear Fuel Complex as this is new for me. Nor was I aware that they used uranium with an implosion design. The only reason they used the implosion design with plutonium was because the presence of Pu-240 meant that the bomb would start to pre-detonate long before a critical mass could be attained with gun design plutonium bomb, although the Americans did attempt to design a gun type plutonium bomb. Uranium 235 does not have that problem. Thank you, as this is content and reporting you rarely hear about.
The precision timing of the explosives is an important detail back in the dark ages of ww2 making the triggers was pretty difficult the U.S. effort had a trigger failure in the lab just prior to the use of the first plutonium bomb. There was some concer that dropping a bomb might just be a delivery of highly enriched fissile material if the bomb malfunctioned then Japan would have all they needed to make a bomb to drop on The U. S.
There was a nursery rhyme in China that almost every girls in China knew during Cultural Revolution. The first line goes something like: "a little rubber ball, kick it off a structure." However, no one understood what it was about. Only a few years ago, it was revealed it was commemoration of Ma Lan Base which was in the center of Chinese nuclear program. The "little rubber ball" actually refers to the first nuclear bomb which was detonated on a structure.
@@youbigtubership Agreed. Let me clarify here. It's not exactly nursery rhyme, more of a song children sing when play a particular game. And it's highly cryptic, meaning it's clearly not a government attempt to brag about it.
Solid content No bias, no BS. Suggestion: review the chinese nuclear deterrence strategy document. For all the fear and paranoia propaganda we consume in the west concerning China, their nuclear policy is level headed and reasonable.
Great video, well researched, not biased against either the West, China or the Soviets, very informative and the subject matter is very interesting. I think a good director could make a nice movie about this story, provided he's given enough creative freedom. edit: it has been brought to my attention that there is already a movie on this, 横空出世 or "Roaring across the horizon"
@@fedyx1544 To begin with, the security of a nation has no price especially after the Chinese experience in the korean war against Murica. To stress that the cost of the Chinese nuclear program was exhorbitant at the time given the hardships the Chinese were going through is a biased view if you don't also stress the context in which this program became a pressing issue for the Chinese national security. So, it's pretty obvious that a biased bent to the narrative that jumped to the eye.
@Bob Morane Watch it again, he focused on the United States threats to China early on in the video and doesn't sugarcoat how maniacal they got. What was he just not supposed to mention that compared to other Nuclear powers at that point China was working with far fewer resources and was at thatpoint the only developing nation to work towards it and achieve it?
To be fair France often times tries to exclude themselves from that list as well. For decades the actual majority of their national power grid was nuclear but they've been intentionally working to get rid of them.
@@alexsis1778 Atomic power relates to atomic weapons, not to atomic generation of electricity. Many countries such as Japan and Ukraine produce electricity in nuclear power plants but do not have nuclear weapons.
@@anreoil Yes... When Ukraine was still part of the USSR. In 1994, Ukraine signed the Budapest Memorandum, surrendering its nuclear weapons in exchange for security assurances from Russia, the United States, and the United Kingdom. To my knowledge, Japan only 'had' nuclear weapons for split seconds when the US dropped two nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 1945. Reminder: The topic of the video is about China acquiring nuclear weapons and technology in the 1960s as a result of the US deploying nukes in Taiwan and South Korea (never in Japan) in the 1950s, during the cold war era. The situation has radically changed since then as Israel, North Korea, Pakistan, India and South Africa (although S.A allegedly destroyed their nukes) have developed nuclear weapons. The US is currently considering deploying nukes in Japan under strict US control.
One of my friends (very old now, I don't know if she is still alive) is a lady who did her studies in France with a Chinese student. He called her much later and gave his name, asking her if she remembered him. He then said that he had become the father of the Chinese atomic bomb.
I really appreciate your attention to punctuating Chinese words correctly! Most RUclipsrs covering China topics are inapt in even pronouncing Xi (They usually go with Xse) Jinping correctly!
"Sexy Zhou Enlai" 🤣😭🤣😂🤣🔥 I guess you're not wrong, find it absolutely hilarious that I was thinking "Is he sexy, maybe. Wtf why is this happening" ... So good work as always!
My stepmother used to watch the nukes in Nevada from on top of her house apparently. She had a special guy fly in that just deals with issues arising from fallout exposure. Looked over her charts and said her issues weren't nuclear related.
I thought about it, and it only goes so far. Kruchev was definitely right when he adhered to the motto "beter ten halve gekeerd dan ten hele gedwaald" or whatever the Russian equivalent of that Dutch saying was. It means "better turn around halfway than stray completely". Also, politicians in general, Deng Xiaoping in this case, will always embelish to look good. After the man-made hardship that China had gone through, it would legit be something to be proud of but that doesn't mean he shouldn't make it look even better!
How such a bad nation make such big achievements? You McCarthyist would never understand it is a paradox, but I like your stubborn attitude, hold this prejudiced shit for life.
Mutual criticism and the withdrawal of Soviet aid began in 1959. After the Soviet intervention in Czechoslovakia, China severely criticized the Soviet Union as a "red imperialist", and the border conflict occurred in 1969. (Because Vietnam refused to criticize the Soviet Union about the Prague Spring, China began to withdraw some aid to Vietnam, and after the death of Mao Zedong, China stopped all aid to Vietnam) The "Washington Post" revealed that the Soviet Union planned to conduct a "surgical" strike against China. From the mid-1960s until 1989, the Soviet Union was China's main defense target. Because Vietnam was allied with the Soviet Union, this led to a border war between China and Vietnam from 1979-1989. The economic difficulties from the 1950s to the 1980s cannot be simply attributed to Mao Zedong’s economic policies, but because most of the experience was in wars or building defense industries to prepare for possible wars, and also to assist other international allies (Africa, Southeast Asia, Algeria, etc. )
This guy has no idea whatsoever how the Chinese got the atomic bomb. When the Jewish Rosenberg couple stolen the atomic bomb planes, and sold it to the Soviet Union, they also gave the patent to Israel. Israel had the plans how to make the atomic bomb, but not the necessary elements, or the materials. China had them both. Therefore Israel and China combined their possessions, and made the atomic bomb together. That is how Israel and China got the atomic bomb in about the same time.
Soon after the atomic bomb, China succeeded in detonating a thermo-nuclear bomb and launched its first satellite. This was done with engineers and scientists using calcalators and slide-rulers.
Sometimes you have to salute to these Chinese scientists, generation by generation, they have not given up, determined to go extra mile for their goals.
@@yawos9024 OK, OK, I get it! Gotta cut some slack. Let's remember that we have non-native English speakers reading our comments. We native speakers know when to distinguish between _accept_ and _except,_ but a non-native English speaker with limited experience will more often than not get confused.
Great video. If I'm allowed to be picky ... 1. Qian Xuesen was by no means a nuclear physicist. He was a brilliant aerodynamics engineer. 2. Mao's attitude to Khrushchev's secret report on Stalin was "dialectical" and not at all personal. His own words were "Khrushchev uncovered (the truth) but caused trouble" and "comrade Stalin made grave mistakes but (Stalinism) shouldn't be abandoned completely". 3. Chinese scientists and officials will of course downplay Soviet's role, but without Soviet's guidance and help, China's nuclear bomb project would be a mission impossible.
@@johnmackenzie3871 that's what impossible means in that context. Ofc technological challenges only ever get easier. By impossible they surely meant "impossible to complete in that decade". The political weight of China would have been a lot different without that development that early. Even its seat in the UN security council wouldn't necessarily have been come that early. And Russia might have reacted differently to the skirmishes of the 60s and 70s.
You forget France in your introduction, its first nuclear bomb dates back from feb 13, 1960 or 4 years before the Chinese one. Chinese was therefore the 6th and not 5th nuclear armed nation.
my parents worked at the facility where deng jiaxian, the father of the chinese a bomb, as theoretical physicists. they dont talk about what they did tho....
This guy has no idea whatsoever how the Chinese got the atomic bomb. When the Jewish Rosenberg couple stolen the atomic bomb planes, and sold it to the Soviet Union, they also gave the patent to Israel. Israel had the plans how to make the atomic bomb, but not the necessary elements, or the materials. China had them both. Therefore Israel and China combined their possessions, and made the atomic bomb together. That is how Israel and China got the atomic bomb in about the same time.
He is from taiwan so all his videos about china are biased, he is also an american citizen so he keeps shilling and defending America especially when it comes to them destroying japans economy
My granddad actually worked on the china nuclear program in the 60s. There are still things he cannot tell us because of national secret, but he did go to tsinghua university in the late 50s.
Maybe the national secret is that China never built a nuclear bomb as U.S./soviets never built one since nuclear bombs not real. It was only national fear propaganda made in Hollywood Basement.
How much Russian tech transfer mattered is like asking how much the Soviet bomb program benefitted from espionage. The basic physics is well known, and the fact that someone had solved the engineering problem earlier is critical.
**Summary of the RUclips video "How China Got the Bomb" by Asianometry** This video describes the history of China's nuclear weapons program, from its beginnings in the early 1950s to its first successful nuclear test in 1964. The video begins by explaining the context in which China decided to develop nuclear weapons. After the Chinese Civil War in 1949, the People's Republic of China was a relatively weak and isolated country. The United States and the Soviet Union were the only two nuclear powers at the time, and they were both hostile to China. Chinese leader Mao Zedong believed that developing nuclear weapons was essential for China's security and sovereignty. In 1955, China and the Soviet Union signed a treaty of friendship and cooperation, which included a provision for the Soviets to help China develop nuclear weapons. However, the Soviets withdrew their support in 1959 after relations between the two countries deteriorated. Despite the Soviet withdrawal, China continued its nuclear weapons program. In 1964, China successfully detonated its first nuclear bomb. The test was a major milestone in Chinese history, and it made China the fifth nuclear power in the world. The video concludes by discussing the implications of China's nuclear weapons program. China's nuclear arsenal has deterred any foreign power from attacking China directly. However, China's nuclear weapons have also contributed to the proliferation of nuclear weapons in Asia. **Time stamps:** * 0:00-1:00 - Introduction * 1:00-2:30 - Context: China's decision to develop nuclear weapons * 2:30-3:30 - Soviet assistance and withdrawal * 3:30-4:30 - China's independent nuclear weapons program * 4:30-5:30 - China's first nuclear test * 5:30-6:30 - Implications of China's nuclear weapons program * 6:30-7:00 - Conclusion Please note that this is a summary of the main points of the video, and it does not include all of the details. If you are interested in learning more about China's nuclear weapons program, I recommend watching the full video.
for example iraq, yugoslavia, libya, afghanistan etc, never attacked any nato country. but they were still invaded by an organized nato force. nato = mercenary for the usa. france got in massive trouble and had sanctions placed on them for refusing to help invade iraq
What an incredibility articulated and quality piece of work. I'm just blown away by the quality of contents from this and other "China" related channels. I have to purge all the propagandas that I've learned through western my education and media.
@Jizz I didn't think of that...didn't cross my mind. And I'm happy that he's a fellow American. In fact, I'm even more impressed. LOL Besides, it doesn't change anything in regards to the content.
This guy has no idea whatsoever how the Chinese got the atomic bomb. When the Jewish Rosenberg couple stolen the atomic bomb planes, and sold it to the Soviet Union, they also gave the patent to Israel. Israel had the plans how to make the atomic bomb, but not the necessary elements, or the materials. China had them both. Therefore Israel and China combined their possessions, and made the atomic bomb together. That is how Israel and China got the atomic bomb in about the same time.
I like how the Chinese fooled their enemies cleverly. It’s ironic, the same thing happened to China’s space program when the US denied China’s entry into the ISS, which accelerated their path to space. Thumbs up to the Chinese.
I am near 60 and when young I was working with number of older people came from the mainland. They all said they had to suffer when China had to pay USSR for any help heavily. An example of payment with food, eggs and their sizes. The size of eggs had to be larger then a sized hole to be counted. The size of the hole became bigger and bigger. The smaller sizes that didn't count still went to USSR. If anyone ask a older Chinese person or from more remote area, what do they get for their birthday.... a red egg was special for most!!
@@commie5211 Really? Paying interests as US of A now? Or paying interests as the British did with cannon shoots? Call Chinese people what you want, but it is the actions that matters!!
For someone who stands completely on the Western side, it is indeed difficult to understand the self-reliance and self-improvement of the Chinese people
can you also make a video about how pakistan and india was able to have nuclear bombs. I am also interested about how the middle east in general particularly in iraq and iran was close to actually developing a nuclear bomb.
Nothing deep but - India had access to nuclear power pretty early on post-independence. Being the largest democracy with a massive energy deficit helped in convincing the West especially Canada in providing reactor tech and fissile material. Then comes the '62 war with China that was unilateral aggression from a nation India believed until then to be a friend and partner. Coupled with the Chinese test in the '60s prompted India to take a more realistic view that while India believed in peaceful use of nuclear energy she did not want to be caught with her pants down. So in the '70s India successfully detonated her own nuclear weapon allegedly by siphoning of the fissile material provided by Canada. Canada was livid. Fear of sanctions ensured no further tests until '98 when India tested all the theoretical advancements since '74 and caught the world with their pants down. India has a no first use policy and has a self-imposed unilateral moratorium on nuclear testing. The Pakistani bomb is more a nuclear proliferation case study. North Korea, possibly aided by Chinese nuke charity, colluded with Pakistan to jointly develop both nuclear weapons and the missile platforms to deploy them. It was mostly a Chinese strategy, albeit a grossly stupid one, to disrupt the status quo with India by introducing a new variable. Sadly they introduced a loose cannon for a new variable. North Korea has repeatedly used it's nuclear weapon arsenal as a direct threat to strong arm negotiations with the South and allies. Pakistan on the other hand has a level headed establishment that IMHO would never first use nuclear weapons but that establishment itself is as weak as grandpappy's bladder on Christmas morning. With most trends signalling that Pakistan is a de facto failed state any power vaccum that eventually arises will imply missing nukes and a real broken arrow scenario for not just India but the World at large. Worries would begin at black market nuclear weapon supplies and end at Islamist terrorists waging nuclear jihad. Iraq's nuclear programme was taken out by Israel. So irrespective of their intent Israel didn't wait around. Iran is a different thing altogether. Not only is Iran arguably way stronger as a nation today than Saddam's Iraq but the fact that Iran is openly willing to cooperate with the IAEA makes Iran's intent transparent on paper. The recent purchase of Su-35's from Russia is the strongest possible deterrent against any unilateral action from Israel. Nonetheless Israel with 5th gen airpower might be willing to screw around and find out. This possibly is the hottest nuclear conflict zone of this decade!
@@jaymudd2817 Yeah, my late airman father would agree with you too. As tragic as it is for humanity these nukes do provide immense bargaining power for the posessing nation when it comes to dealing with the World and a very credible deterrence.
"Hey guys we got a nuclear bomb too now can we be a permanent member of the UN?" - India "Hey china give Pakistan a nuclear bomb so we can shut India up" - US
2:01 it was nit just athreat, parts of the US Army considered it, and General MacArthur maybe wanted to use them, president Truman fired him to prevent nuclear war (though there were maybe also other issues involved).
In the Korea war, General MacArthur had a plan to drop 34 nuclear bombs on China before he was sacked (Wikipedia). In 1960s Britain also planned to use nuclear bombs in case of a war broke out in Southeast Asia or Hong Kong was invaded.
Is there a point there somewhere? They had plans of what to do if things went south with the allies as well, and it’s a good thing. A military that doesn’t look at the possibility of conflicts and how to handle them isn’t doing it’s job properly.
@@smeagle3295 sure, but nations dont go openly stating they want to nuke you. Which the us and the soviets very much did to china. That is, openly threaten nuclear annihilation.
I remember reading that. General MacArthur clashed with President Truman over the bomb controversy. MacArthur didn't want to go through another long drawn out war like he did in WW1 and WW2. Truman just thought it was too dangerous considering the Soviets would likely retaliate against the US.
One nitpick. The first atomic bomb was an implosion design. Trinity. They didn't test the gun model because of lack of material and they had confidence in the design.
@@bronzebuilder2115 of course. Just look at the data. Tell me which country has China invaded and occupied before showing off your stupidity. You are following the Anglo-Saxon media narrative, you are either brainwashed or racist. Don't believe? My ancestors have been immigrating to Southeast Asia for a long time, trading most of the time. When the Europeans arrived, they simply colonized it and took everything to them. If you say my ancestors were not peaceful, then you are either racist or brainwashed. It is not SUBJECTIVE. You are just a racist that try to use modified narrative to hide Europeans' crimes. Chinese have been moving to Southeast Asia to do business and integrated with the locals for over 1200 years, over 1000 years before Europeans found Southeast Asia. China had the means to occupy the region but China didn't. Your "subjective" is utterly rubbish and nonsensical. You are a racist and trying to push the blame to the Chinese. You know what? You are either too stupid or you are trying to brush off the crimes Europeans have done in the region. Europeans refuse to learn the real history of other people. They want to clean off all the histories and force everything into theirs. Chinese is one of the few races who refuse to comply and thus we are targeted. Everytime I support China as a Singaporean, you guys would only do what? Claim that I support communism. Of course, no proof, no evidence... only use words. Today China will correct Europeans' crimes. You guys will pay for your crimes.
@@jaymudd2817 India invaded and occupying Sikkim. Of course they would disagree. Russia occupying many lands of China, of course, they would disagree. USA threw agent orange and kill millions of Vietnam innocent civilians. China has never done that kind of things.
After that, China did not slow down its nuclear weapons research. In the three years after 1964, they developed a more powerful Nuclear fusion hydrogen bomb, which was earlier than the developed country France. Their hydrogen bomb structure has more advantages than Western ones, and can be preserved for a long time with low maintenance costs. China's two bombs protected its peaceful development for decades, and it was during the golden period of development that China gained its current strength. Their generation was very difficult, but it also benefited their children and grandchildren. There is a famous saying in China: sin in the present day, profit in the future
except the real owner of advantage chip technology are chinese be it engineer designers or descent nvda boss is not white guy last time i checked lol or amd lol
Thanks to Qian Xuesen, who not only helped China make great breakthroughs in the field of missiles and nuclear bombs, but also suggested in the 1990s that the Chinese government skip fuel vehicles and develop electric vehicles (now China is a country with advanced electric vehicle technology). As an American officer said, he is worth at least five divisions.😋😋
Absolutely stunning!!!!!! It would be greatly appreciated if someone could explain how the Soviet Union got their first atomic bomb in less than 5 years after the Americans manage to produce it .( The Los Alamos and other laboratories that were involved in the production of the first atomic bomb was possible because thousands of top class scientists and engineers ,many of them Europeans who escaped the Nazis.). It remains a mystery to me how the Soviet Union managed to produce their atomic and hydrogen bombs considering the fact that they were scientifically and technologically hugely inferior to the USA.
And it should be recalled that the Second World War has just ended. 27 million people were killed in the USSR. Hundreds of thousands of settlements lay in ruins. People lived in dugouts. All the industrial enterprises that survived were beyond the Urals. Among the participants of The Los Alamos were those who were afraid of American imperialism and sympathized with the USSR. For the purpose of balancing, some participants copied and transmitted working documentation, diagrams, calculations, etc. to secret agents of the USSR. In addition, German scientists worked for the USSR, in particular, it was German scientists who designed a breakthrough method for enriching uranium using centrifuges.
@@johnmackenzie3871 Yes, the Americans took out the main German specialists for themselves, as well as samples of missiles and rocket engines. But the Soviets also managed to get something, for example, a number of German specialists who worked on rocket stabilization and flight control systems were taken to the USSR. Samples of rocket engines have also been studied. A copy of the V-2 was created and tested. ruclips.net/video/9IiFoPRl0uo/видео.html However, in the end,since the USSR already had some independent developments in rocket engines, the creation of developments based on the V-2 engine was considered inappropriate. In particular, the German rocket engine had a very large combustion chamber, in which it was difficult to achieve stable burning and high pressure. By the way, you can still observe this difference between engines created in the USSR/Russian and American engines. The first have small combustion chambers with four nozzles on one engine, and American engines have one huge combustion chamber with one nozzle.
@@bulsond Yes Soviets also took a little bit of German help but those German engineers were returned back home in 1953. This is in contrast to the US where both the team that designed the rocket that took the US to the moon, and its director (Werhner von Braun and the Redstone team) were German.
It's ok. It will be rated the square of its actual yield, won't go off about 50% of the time right out of the box, but at only $0.37/unit, they will set them off like it's new year's eve.
France, Italy and Turkey(maybe already moved to Bulgaria) have usable nuclear weapons in the form of US made NATO ordinance as far as I know. The UK still maintain their Trident submarine fleet with nuclear warheads. If you have other information regarding France, please correct me.
@@earlysda No country has ever created such weapons because such reactions do not work in reality.
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That's quite sad because the french developpement and the strategy of using them is quite comparable. One fallen colonial power and one giant underdevelopped country, both recovering from the war. And both countries adopted counter-value strategies (a.k.a target cities and factories, not enemy nuclear power) because both countries knew they could not make precise missiles en mass
CN is the fastest country to get their hydrogen bomb after getting the atomic bomb, and with Dr. Yu Ming's new structure that differs from US & Soviet, CN's hydrogen bombs can be kept longer and cheaper while a lot of the hydrogen bombs of US & RU are ineffective now because of natural aging and lack of maintainence budget after the end of Cold War
@@Fred_the_1996 Sorry Fred, it was only my lame joke attempt to try to relate Asianometry's usual topics covering historically important developments in "electron-ics" to this video, where heavy atomic nuclei are split, causing a runaway chain reaction, hence the bomb. The lowly electron is hardly ever mentioned in these descriptions of such a serious topic.
Soviet spy's stole it from the US and the British were assisted by the US in creating theirs. France, India, and Pakistan are a bit more complex. Also I'm pretty sure Israel has it with help received from the US however they just don't talk about it. Which is actually very smart.
China has some very new delivery vehicles that outperform anything in the US arsenal. The DF-ZF is a hypersonic MIRV that can deliver several warheads while maneuvering to avoid interception. Russia has even better ones, capable of circling to the US via the *south* pole, likely not even being detected before it started dropping it's payload(s) over the coasts.
All major nuclear powers depend on one of three technologies. Submarine missles, air bombers and missles. All ICBMs are hypersonics by nature. Don't let modern nonsense convince you otherwise. The US developed minuteman in the early 60s and the Chinese certainly can duplicate it. With a salvo approach, you can simply fire a group of missiles. The first array blankets the defence system and second gets through. The main defence against nuclear weapons is the assurance that all your own cities will be destroyed in a counterattack. My understanding is the Chinese largely maintain a mutually assured destruction arsenal of over 200 bombs and feel that is suitable. Which it probably is.
@@kusotarre The US has similar things. They just have black budgets and don't like to sable rattle. They're already on top, so they don't want to give others excuses to develop more weapons.
@@kusotarre To my knowledge US hasn't invested much because the old systems are still effective, ICBM's normally travel 23+ mach. Let's say Russia or China can stop 3/4ths of warheads, (good for them!) as part of the strike plan just aim four warheads at anything important from different delivery vehicles. Detection isn't and hasn't been a problem for decades (it's safe to assume Russia has comparable detection ability.) You realize that there are literally half a dozen US and allied systems that could detect a launch as well as track before land based radars in the US see the incoming if fired in any direction towards the US. Mutually Assured Destruction is still very much a thing.
I've heard that at the end of the war in Europe, the Americans got their hands on several tons of Uranium metal from the Germans already enriched with their cyclotrons - the implications if true are pretty interesting. I believe it was the U-234.
Not true at all. The Nazis ended up having two seperate nuclear weapons programs and didn't give them enough focus. A side effect of fascism is that the leaders push for multiple competing factions to fight each other, so they are too busy to plot against the leader. This might work to develop two parallel fighter aircraft, but nuclear weapons needed so much effort that it doomed the project to failure. As well, because Einstein and some other physicists were Jewish, the Nazis were hostile to Quantum mechanics and modern physics through much of the 30s, so that they never really recovered.
crazy how cooperation and working together is superior to unnecessary redundant competition when it comes to scientific progress. I wish the West had learned this instead of adapted Nazi Germany attitude of private property and competition
It’s true although hushed up, the guy above me has no idea what’s he’s talking about going off on a separate tangent that has nothing to do with the topic, more like a deflection.
@@cjthebeesknees it's hardly deflection, It's just that this claim has effectively no evidence. Though in a general review, given the Nazis did do some amazingly advanced research (especially the V-2, though its a near useless weapon without a nuclear payload.), why didn't they develop it. People have done load of work on this and those reasons I explained are exactly the reasons why the Nazis never developed the bomb. It was internal politics and a lack of faith in the bomb, both due to time taken to develop, plus a general strong unease with quantum physics, which is needed for nuclear weapons development. It's also funny because the guy who got the first nuclear reactor to work, Fermi was a refugee from a fascist country, Italy.
Thanks for your interesting and informative videos.
Wished the channel noticed you
The very definition of "fine, I'll do it myself". Same thing happened with the international space station.
And now it's the chips. Believe it or not, in 5 years, China will catch up on chip making.
The lesson here will be dont let china do something herself if you want to conquer the world
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It already caught up.
At least 10 years early than expected.
@@JP-rk6gw not really, as chinese. i think. back to 60 yrs ago, ppl have faith , have spirits. ppl believed in gov and hold the hope to the future . today , china is essentially grown up to be a bureaucratic capitalism country. people's mindset is different
这就是为什么资本讨厌共产党，如果它们能控制的话，西方的宣传机器将每天充满赞美@@arkyin3860
My father spent years of his time in the desert and mountains away from our home in Beijing. Tens of thousands scientists, engineers, workers were involved in the project. My father was one of the engineers.
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@25:34 It wasn't just the broken treaty, The USSR and PRC were in open ground battles in Manchuria during this time. So from the Chinese perspective, they were caught between 2 nuclear armed enemies (three if you count England, a former colonial invader), which was highly motivational and worth the cost even during the worst of the "Grate leap forward", from their perspective.
I know you hit on that, but I don't think you really emphasized that context enough.
That was in 1969 I think, long after
England has Scotland and northern Ireland in a nuclear vice.
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It was an ongoing thing basically. Russia invaded Xinjiang in 1944, and that was, from the back of my head, Russia's 6th invasion of China.
@@ShengYu1995the sino-soviet split was in 61 with skirmishes being a problem throughout the 60s and early 70s
This channel is a taiwanese dpp channel so he will belittle mainland china every opportunity
Imagine my surprise to see, at 7:40, in a video about the Chinese atomic bomb, a photograph showing the Irish Taoiseach, Eamonn de Valera, sitting in the centre of the front row!
Alongside Arthur Eddington, Paul Dirac and Erwin Schrodinger. It's remarkable that Peng Huanwu, who went on to be one of the leaders of the Chinese nuclear weapons programme, was based at the Dublin Institute of Advanced Studies in the early 1940s, and that this meeting of eminent physicists took place there in 1942, in the midst of the largest war ever to occur in Europe.
Yeah a lot of problems in Ireland, Rental prices, lack of house development, infrastructure stagnation is caused by socialist policies ther unfortunately same goes with most of EU nations and UK as well, they had always been backstabbers to the nations of the west , even US is run by traitors
And despite all this he could still build a nuclear bomb! Astonishing!
The really hard part of developing atomic weapons isn't the design, it is having the industrial capacity to produce the materials necessary. If you look at the budget of the Manhattan Project, Los Alamos + R&D was only 7.5% of the entire budget. The rest was mostly the industrial infrastructure to produce the enriched uranium and plutonium. The real utility of Soviet aid was the development of the industrial infrastructure that enabled the development of nuclear weapons, and not transfers of specific knowledge about nuclear weapon design.
日本战败后，留在东北的工业基地让苏联抢走你怎么不说？
The science and R&D are just as important in building those machines and infrastructure to make the bomb. The R&D and planning of building a skyscraper may also be dwarfed by the costs associated with actually building it but you can’t have one without the other. The cost does not necessarily = the importance.
@@hollandoats4738 theyare both important. But by the 60s a nuclear bomb wasn’t as cutting edge as it once was in 30s and 40s. It was just a matter of copying much more instead of figuring out the physics and engineering from scratch.
It's the design, bro. Recommended reading: _Plutonium, A History of the World's Most Dangerous Element._ The R&D Los Alamos financed involved the world's smartest men, full stop. There's a very conspicuous reason why Nobel prizes get awarded in a proportion that is fantastically out of whack with China's population, especially if you ignore awards that are given for accomplishments that are fundamentally engineering as opposed to invention or theory. Hindsight, such as concerning the development of the bomb, does not alter this reality. China are conspicuously aware of this discrepancy; it's part of the reason why they're so desperate to make a name in scientific papers that they willfully flood publications with tripe and outright fraud.
@@Asterra2 Funny.If you think China adds lies to your paper, then you should read papers written by Chinese people well, because lies cannot make DF-21
Very good video, as always.
Just one small correction: 21:45 says: _"The key issue the Chinese bomb design needed to do was to properly synchronize the high explosives so to kickstart a series of nuclear chain reactions. A bad timing issue means stray neutrons running around - a premature neutron burst resulting in an overall unsatisfactory performance."_
The story is a little bit more nuanced. First, multiple detonators need to fire simultaneously within about a microsecond, simply because without this the symmetrical implosion does not happen, and the material does not get compressed to a sufficiently supercritical state for a rapid chain reaction.
Second, the chain reaction needs to start at the precise moment this supercritical state is achieved -- not sooner, not later. To prevent premature chain reaction, the compression of plutonium needs to be much more rapid than the rate at which neutrons happen spontaneously. This is the whole point why explosively driven compression is used for plutonium -- to make it quick, because in plutonium there is a high rate of spontaneous fission. For uranium this aspect is not important, because there is no such background. But using implosion for uranium allows to make a bomb from several times smaller amount of uranium. (The explosives actually compress the metal, and a smaller amount can be made supercritical.) That is why China used this method.
To start the reaction at the moment of greatest supercriticality, a powerful source of neutrons must fire at exactly the right moment, again with the precision of a microsecond or so.
In the first nuclear bombs the neutron source was a mechanical device in the middle of the bomb, and it was set off by the implosion itself mixing different materials in the source. This automatically guaranteed correct timing. In the later bombs, an electronic neutron generator was used instead, located outside of the fissile material. This required firing the pulse of neutrons with a carefully calculated delay after firing the detonators.
I have to correct you here. Such weapons have never been created as those reactions are pure fantasy. But it is funny that guys like you buy propaganda about them and parrot it.
Wouldn't an out-of-synch detonation just destroy the fissile material?
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 it would "fizzle"- (thats the term). maybe some limited chain reaction, but mostly, an explosive disassembly of your expensive nuclear device.
(depending on how bad your synchronization is, and i guess how optimized the design- a fat man spherical implosion or two- point explosive lens is propaply more robust than a miniaturized nuke )
@@nos9784 Only in fantasy world.
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Since a few decades ago, US bombs are specifically designed for safety in accidents, such that they would not produce a nuclear explosion if only a single detonator fires. This is called "one point safe design". This requires certain amount of effort to achieve. In weapons that are not one point safe, even an asymmetrical implosion can result in a sizable nuclear yield, albeit typically much reduced compared to the full scale explosion. Older US weapons were not necessarily one point safe, and it is not known whether weapons of other countries are.
Interestingly enough, China celebrates their acquisition of nukes together with their accomplishment of launching a satellite into space (Two Bombs, One Satellite), and my ears perked up when you said nuke development was done at Jiuquan because that’s also where they first launched satellite into orbit (and continues to be a popular launch site).
Why is that so “interesting”?
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@@billysgeo I think Jas means Coincidentally enough
Thank you for your post
It's all about a spirit of beating all challenges, a persistent characteristic of the Chinese govt from the days of their revolution to the Long March and so it goes. This is part reason why Napoleon suggested it’s best to let the dragon lie.
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Qian Xuesen, or Hsue-shen Tsien, was a Chinese aerospace engineer and cyberneticist who made significant contributions to the field of aerodynamics and established engineering cybernetics. He moved to the US to study at MIT, from where he was recruited to join Theodore von Kármán's group at Caltech. Wikipedia, He was not a nuclear physicist
He in the end was driven out of the US due to blatant racial discrimination which backfired disastrously as he joined and became the head of the PRC's nascent missile programmes.
@@nicholasmaude6906 Alot of the scientist was driven out of america due to racial issues.
#nichilasmaude Because communists do not steal property especialy intelectual... HAHA
The programmer who wrote the Tetris game (in his spare time) didn't get a cent until the USSR collapsed even though the West was paying for the right to use the program?
Your comment is blatant racial discriminational lie and anyone with little will to check it can confirm it ->Chien-Shiung Wu (Chinese: 吳健雄) -> She was important scientist in Manhattan Project -> she was Chinese -> she was from China -> she was a woman -> no-one kicked her out->and i have the feeling that she helped with development of China attomic weapond even if Asianometry did not found any info about it... ->she wanted to be buried in China...
I remember he was one of the five creator of JPL.
Yes, he is mostly known in China as the 'Father of China's Space Program'. There's a big, new-ish museum dedicated to him at Shanghai's Jiaotong University. Nicely designed building, by the way.
The fact that they were able to figure out the implosion technique in just three years is most impressive.
This guy has no idea whatsoever how the Chinese got the atomic bomb.
When the Jewish Rosenberg couple stolen the atomic bomb planes, and sold it to the Soviet Union, they also gave the patent to Israel.
Israel had the plans how to make the atomic bomb, but not the necessary elements, or the materials.
China had them both. Therefore Israel and China combined their possessions, and made the atomic bomb together.
That is how Israel and China got the atomic bomb in about the same time.
it was published in details by Americans
It was...as with almost everything Chinese, there they took from America, even America's education. You should not be able to study nuclear physics and then go to a different country to help build their nuclear ambitions as China and Israel benefited.
@@the_DOS why didn't other countries do the same thing?
@@the_DOSthat doesn't sound like freedom to me. Hypocritical much?
“Underestimating your enemy”The most common mistake in history.
Qian Xuesen was a Chinese aerospace engineer and cyberneticist , not a nuclear physicist.
He still was part of the manhattan project, he wasnt nuclear physicist but still take part of it, something that help partially to make the nukes.
To be plain, he helped other scientists to solve the basic science and made the nuclear bomb fly. :)
This channel just doesnt research enough when it comes to china due to his taiwanese bias
Co founder of JPL in NASA
Yes, a co-founder of “Jet Propulsion Laboratory” in 1943, 15 years before the founding of NASA. In those days, “jet propulsion” was a euphemism for rocket propulsion. (The engine produces a powerful jet of gas.)
I remember my friend telling me about how his grandad, who was a party member, illegally went to see the first atomic bomb test. I wish I got to talk to him, but he was living in Chongqing while my friend and I were in Beijing at the time. Really fascinating history, glad that you made a video covering it.
I be seeing chongqing in cyberpunk tiktoks
Another fun story: the factory which is part of the project, was on the edge of shut down due to lack of funding, so they use those centrifuges to make ice cream.... It was called 504 ice cream lol
@@kaymanwangthat's pretty epic
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It is weird how beliefs outlive people. People who believed in national socialism in 1939 are dead yet people who love national socialism are alive today. Nukes do make a war costly, high risk, high reward. They are so powerful that earth would be destroyed forever.
Same way they’ll build chips, bunch of smart hard working people
This will be China once it catches up in EUV and semiconductors, "Exceptionalism" exists everywhere, the key factor in anything is to know if it's possible, if we know it's possible, brilliant minds will do it, and China has plenty.
They will have to invent their own optics industry aswell, if it is possible for China to catch up they will need to do the work of several nations and decades of research in the next few years and given how many chip founders go bankrupt after wasting billions of RMB I cant see this happening. There is a reason why EUV tech is only know and controlled by a few companies.
isn't China basically already the world leader in economy and education right now? and manufacturing? I'm confused
The Chinese keep saying with a chuckle that there's nothing godly or supernatural, it's all human creations that can be reproduced by whoever has the will and the resources. I don't think they ever believed in exceptionalism and they're starting to rub it in the muricans faces.
@@supabass4003 Asml has Carl zeiss, Japs have Nikon and Canon. I thought the Chinese hv their own optics industry leader , who is it again ?
@@katiebarber407 Not exactly, China is a leading manufacturing place, it's really good in plenty of areas such as material science and such, but it has areas to catch up at the very high end (where most profit is located).
One of those areas is chip manufacturing, first of all you need 3 requirements to manufacture a Chip, The ability to design a Chip (China does have this), access to commonly used architectures today (X86 or ARM, both propietary of the west, China no longer possesses access to this at least not for important stuff), and lastly, semiconductors, which is what Chips are made of.
In the case of Design as I said China has the expertise and can design advanced Chips fairly easily, in the case of architecture, this is harder, because even though China knows how to do stuff in those architectures, they cannot officially do it because of licensing problems, so they are switching ATM to RISC-V which is an alternative architecture which is open source and won't suffer from licensing issues and or blacklisting by America or its allies. Lastly, the most important and hardest one is semiconductors.
Right now China can reliably make semi modern semiconductors with decent yield, the problem starts when you need ones for more advanced applications, such as supercomputers, AI Chips or even the latest consumer CPUs.
They are on sub 10nm (actually 5nm and lower), China has managed to design and produce 7nm semiconductors but with low yield, let alone anything below that. Reason? They lack the tools to make them.
China does not posses DUV (up to around 2010s) (although it's working on these), let alone EUV machines (made by ASML utilizing like 100k parts from different countries, including the US), this is the biggest hurdle to China, it needs to produce these.
Japan was the leader in DUV in the 90s but then US trade war and restrictions made Japan unable to cooperate with America in EUV design, then America cooperated instead with the netherlands and ASML managed to produce EUV, Nikon (Japan) almost got there, stopped at the 2nd prototype, but they gave up cause it was too late/too expensive mid 2008-2011 economic crisis.
China is currently on a massive effort to make these machines, but it will likely take them maybe to close to 2030(?) to get close to the west, unless of course a breakthrough happens for even smaller semiconductor node sizes, but even then they would still need to catch up in EUV to produce stuff that requires those nodes.
Today, it’s semiconductor, very similar situation, the Americans still the main reason why China need the advanced chips technology but the actual factor that propel China needs to achieve the breakthrough as soon as possible is not Russia technical help but the absent of Netherland and Japan equipments. Chinese experts working in US still receive same treatments from the Americans, many coming back to help the motherland, history proven China can achieve anything if they fully put their efforts into it.
Yes, the more they steal IP from other countries & commit corporate espionage, they'll eventually steal enough to catch up!
Too bad creating nothing of your own leads to zero soft power or influence outside of your own country
i dont think semi conductors are that easy . amercians are like far far ahead of any country in semi conductor technology , i learned somewhere ibm has created on of the brilliant semi conductors , and figuring out the machine which prints on fab is made in netherlands and america now being active in this field is not possible for chinese , it might take them decades , in that much time americans will be far more ahead of them , people underestimate american technology leap compared to rest of the world combined .
@@opai1821 u got so much confident on Americunt technology but even Americunts got no confident, they imposes sanction after sanction until they no longer got any bullet left to do anything to China. Lol.
@@CouchDoritos 现在美国已经没有人力资源和制度资源跟中国在科学技术领域pk了。最多10年，中国将在所有科学技术领域碾压盎傻集团。目前之所以还有很多人闭眼崇美或看低中国，主要是他们因为看不清存量技术和新增技术的区别。前年杨洁篪面对布林克的挑衅说“你们没有资格跟中国说以实力出发打交道”是有实力依据的。
Weird way to say treason.
This was a excellent video about a subject I admittedly knew nothing about. Thank you for sharing.
I remember studying the Karman-Tsien compressibility correction rule in gas dynamics (aerodynamics) class in 1968 at Manchester University, UK. It was disgraceful that Prof Theodore von Karman never supported his protege Dr Hsueh-Shen Tsien during Sen. McCarthy's disgusting trials. Dr Tsien's bachelor degree in China was in railway engineering. Dr Tsien was a prolific researcher - not just in fluid mechanics. He also wrote several papers in solid mechanics (e.g. warping of solid hollow tubes etc.). A full account of his life and work can be found in the book "Thread of the Silkworm" by Iris Chang.
At least in China, one of the hyper sonic ballistic reentry method was named after him. Which is a key to modern hypersonic missiles. I think that method is like bouncing multiple time with atmosphere, which not only greatly increase the range, but also make the missile much harder to intercept.
In Europe and the United States, at least among the English speaking people, deep-rooted racial discrimination and the idea of a superior ethnic group remain deeply ingrained. France, Germany, and even Iran are the same, they still feel that the Chinese are inferior. This is a cultural imprint left by the colonial era that lasted for 400 years, and it is difficult to easily remove them.
Also, I wish you good health.
实际上在过去几千年里，欧洲（美国没有历史）远远落后于中国@@siroyiryuu
Witness of history, I wish you good health.
Thank you, I know a lot about the American, British, Russian, and Israel's nuclear weapons development efforts as I am an electrical engineer, I am by nature fascinated by such high technology projects as this. This has highlighted me about something I knew very little. I was not aware of their Gaseous diffusion plant, at their Lanzhou Nuclear Fuel Complex as this is new for me. Nor was I aware that they used uranium with an implosion design. The only reason they used the implosion design with plutonium was because the presence of Pu-240 meant that the bomb would start to pre-detonate long before a critical mass could be attained with gun design plutonium bomb, although the Americans did attempt to design a gun type plutonium bomb. Uranium 235 does not have that problem.
Thank you, as this is content and reporting you rarely hear about.
China had their sights on a stockpile from day one.
I'm honestly not sure if this is a real comment or a bot...
I've read of Seismic activity in the Negev in 1963 that couldn't be determined.
This pretty much shows t j at the real trick is getting the pure radioactive fuel for thr bombs that is the trickiest part.
The precision timing of the explosives is an important detail back in the dark ages of ww2 making the triggers was pretty difficult the U.S. effort had a trigger failure in the lab just prior to the use of the first plutonium bomb. There was some concer that dropping a bomb might just be a delivery of highly enriched fissile material if the bomb malfunctioned then Japan would have all they needed to make a bomb to drop on The U. S.
There was a nursery rhyme in China that almost every girls in China knew during Cultural Revolution. The first line goes something like: "a little rubber ball, kick it off a structure." However, no one understood what it was about. Only a few years ago, it was revealed it was commemoration of Ma Lan Base which was in the center of Chinese nuclear program. The "little rubber ball" actually refers to the first nuclear bomb which was detonated on a structure.
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@@xinalityo 原来是这个意思。我们小时候经常唱这首童谣。
Really, I though it was about Deng Xiaoping's son.
That's so creepy, making children sing songs about that. Psychos.
@@youbigtubership Agreed. Let me clarify here. It's not exactly nursery rhyme, more of a song children sing when play a particular game. And it's highly cryptic, meaning it's clearly not a government attempt to brag about it.
Solid content
No bias, no BS.
Suggestion: review the chinese nuclear deterrence strategy document.
For all the fear and paranoia propaganda we consume in the west concerning China, their nuclear policy is level headed and reasonable.
Where can we read this document
This video is quite biased though….
@@johnny5584 google "no first strike" and "china nuclear deterrence doctrine"
Good luck.
@@NeostormXLMAX lol nope
@@NeostormXLMAX this channel has always had a bias
Great video, well researched, not biased against either the West, China or the Soviets, very informative and the subject matter is very interesting. I think a good director could make a nice movie about this story, provided he's given enough creative freedom.
edit: it has been brought to my attention that there is already a movie on this, 横空出世 or "Roaring across the horizon"
I mean its pretty biased against the Soviet Union and China, but still factual information and a good video!
@@larllarfleton how so?
@@fedyx1544 To begin with, the security of a nation has no price especially after the Chinese experience in the korean war against Murica. To stress that the cost of the Chinese nuclear program was exhorbitant at the time given the hardships the Chinese were going through is a biased view if you don't also stress the context in which this program became a pressing issue for the Chinese national security. So, it's pretty obvious that a biased bent to the narrative that jumped to the eye.
@@bobmorane4926 Pointing to resource allocation and how much went into each pot is bias?
@Bob Morane Watch it again, he focused on the United States threats to China early on in the video and doesn't sugarcoat how maniacal they got. What was he just not supposed to mention that compared to other Nuclear powers at that point China was working with far fewer resources and was at thatpoint the only developing nation to work towards it and achieve it?
"The US, the USSR and the UK as one of the five atomic powers..."
That's only four, including China. These guys cannot count and forgot France.
To be fair France often times tries to exclude themselves from that list as well. For decades the actual majority of their national power grid was nuclear but they've been intentionally working to get rid of them.
@@alexsis1778 Atomic power relates to atomic weapons, not to atomic generation of electricity. Many countries such as Japan and Ukraine produce electricity in nuclear power plants but do not have nuclear weapons.
@@Samsara_is_dukkha Both Japan and Ukraine had nuclear weapons at some point.
@@anreoil Yes... When Ukraine was still part of the USSR. In 1994, Ukraine signed the Budapest Memorandum, surrendering its nuclear weapons in exchange for security assurances from Russia, the United States, and the United Kingdom. To my knowledge, Japan only 'had' nuclear weapons for split seconds when the US dropped two nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 1945. Reminder: The topic of the video is about China acquiring nuclear weapons and technology in the 1960s as a result of the US deploying nukes in Taiwan and South Korea (never in Japan) in the 1950s, during the cold war era.
The situation has radically changed since then as Israel, North Korea, Pakistan, India and South Africa (although S.A allegedly destroyed their nukes) have developed nuclear weapons. The US is currently considering deploying nukes in Japan under strict US control.
@@alexsis1778 so stupid too, now the world is going nuclear again after realizing how much better and safer it is in general
One of my friends (very old now, I don't know if she is still alive) is a lady who did her studies in France with a Chinese student. He called her much later and gave his name, asking her if she remembered him. He then said that he had become the father of the Chinese atomic bomb.
Is she lady Currie?
@@jchanmcse No. She worked in the Curie institute.
the Chinese student must be 钱三强
@@Myst21Sid I suppose I could ask the lady, but she must be about 95 years old and might have trouble remembering.
@@Myst21Sid 参与研究的人不止新闻上说的那么几个，很多都是幕后工作，我们知道的只是主要的几个领导
20:48 Noice! LOL. your delivery reminds me of one of my favourite professors back in the day. Thank you
I really appreciate your attention to punctuating Chinese words correctly! Most RUclipsrs covering China topics are inapt in even pronouncing Xi (They usually go with Xse) Jinping correctly!
He's Taiwanese
you dont even watch the second video of his...
really? Who cares?
"Sexy Zhou Enlai"
🤣😭🤣😂🤣🔥 I guess you're not wrong, find it absolutely hilarious that I was thinking "Is he sexy, maybe. Wtf why is this happening"
... So good work as always!
I was a teenager when I saw Zhou En-lai in a motorcade that passed our home.
Interesting choice of topic! Came to nerd out on semiconductor tech, stay for history, business, and everything else.
My stepmother used to watch the nukes in Nevada from on top of her house apparently. She had a special guy fly in that just deals with issues arising from fallout exposure. Looked over her charts and said her issues weren't nuclear related.
Sounds like the specialist knew more about protecting the US government from paying out money than about radiation related disease
I thought about it, and it only goes so far. Kruchev was definitely right when he adhered to the motto "beter ten halve gekeerd dan ten hele gedwaald" or whatever the Russian equivalent of that Dutch saying was. It means "better turn around halfway than stray completely". Also, politicians in general, Deng Xiaoping in this case, will always embelish to look good. After the man-made hardship that China had gone through, it would legit be something to be proud of but that doesn't mean he shouldn't make it look even better!
Khrushchev was ousted 4 days before the detonation.
带着你的小岛消失😊
How such a bad nation make such big achievements? You McCarthyist would never understand it is a paradox, but I like your stubborn attitude, hold this prejudiced shit for life.
08:20 - Was his name really "Sexy Zhou Enlai", or are you just adding a "cheeky soubriquet" 😂
Mutual criticism and the withdrawal of Soviet aid began in 1959.
After the Soviet intervention in Czechoslovakia, China severely criticized the Soviet Union as a "red imperialist", and the border conflict occurred in 1969. (Because Vietnam refused to criticize the Soviet Union about the Prague Spring, China began to withdraw some aid to Vietnam, and after the death of Mao Zedong, China stopped all aid to Vietnam)
The "Washington Post" revealed that the Soviet Union planned to conduct a "surgical" strike against China.
From the mid-1960s until 1989, the Soviet Union was China's main defense target.
Because Vietnam was allied with the Soviet Union, this led to a border war between China and Vietnam from 1979-1989.
The economic difficulties from the 1950s to the 1980s cannot be simply attributed to Mao Zedong’s economic policies, but because most of the experience was in wars or building defense industries to prepare for possible wars, and also to assist other international allies (Africa, Southeast Asia, Algeria, etc. )
Another good research and reporting.
Keep up the great work.
This guy has no idea whatsoever how the Chinese got the atomic bomb.
When the Jewish Rosenberg couple stolen the atomic bomb planes, and sold it to the Soviet Union, they also gave the patent to Israel.
Israel had the plans how to make the atomic bomb, but not the necessary elements, or the materials.
China had them both. Therefore Israel and China combined their possessions, and made the atomic bomb together.
That is how Israel and China got the atomic bomb in about the same time.
“让一切内外反动派在我们面前发抖吧！让他们去说我们这也不行那也不行吧！中国人民不屈不挠地努力，必将稳步地达到自己的目的！”
Your face Chinese stubborn people! Feeling high 😂
米を植えるときも米を刈り入れるときも我慢が要ります。
😂 just like Americans
@@hananokuni2580 中華民族が繁栄して強くなったら、まず軍国主義日本を排除することだ！
@@bronzebuilder2115 At least we didn't kill native American Indians and made their scalps into boots.
Soon after the atomic bomb, China succeeded in detonating a thermo-nuclear bomb and launched its first satellite.
This was done with engineers and scientists using calcalators and slide-rulers.
Sometimes you have to salute to these Chinese scientists, generation by generation, they have not given up, determined to go extra mile for their goals.
China is going to the moon in the next 4 year. Let see how many countries will tune in to watch it. West will finally accept China as a competitor.
@@Linkwii64 It's _accept,_ not except. Except means _to leave out._
@@hananokuni2580 corrected
@@hananokuni2580 Finicky! You knew what he meant.
@@yawos9024 OK, OK, I get it! Gotta cut some slack.
Let's remember that we have non-native English speakers reading our comments. We native speakers know when to distinguish between _accept_ and _except,_ but a non-native English speaker with limited experience will more often than not get confused.
Great video. If I'm allowed to be picky ...
1. Qian Xuesen was by no means a nuclear physicist. He was a brilliant aerodynamics engineer.
2. Mao's attitude to Khrushchev's secret report on Stalin was "dialectical" and not at all personal. His own words were "Khrushchev uncovered (the truth) but caused trouble" and "comrade Stalin made grave mistakes but (Stalinism) shouldn't be abandoned completely".
3. Chinese scientists and officials will of course downplay Soviet's role, but without Soviet's guidance and help, China's nuclear bomb project would be a mission impossible.
I would say that China nuclear bomb was inevitable since US does not have an effective method to prevent development like that with Iran.
没有苏联的帮助 中国也会拥有核武器 时间长一点而已
@@赵某-o5o 对。我的意思是不太可能在1960年代就完成原子弹。氢弹的基础是原子弹，就更不可能了。
Not impossible, would've just taken several more decades.
@@johnmackenzie3871 that's what impossible means in that context. Ofc technological challenges only ever get easier.
By impossible they surely meant "impossible to complete in that decade".
The political weight of China would have been a lot different without that development that early. Even its seat in the UN security council wouldn't necessarily have been come that early. And Russia might have reacted differently to the skirmishes of the 60s and 70s.
You forget France in your introduction, its first nuclear bomb dates back from feb 13, 1960 or 4 years before the Chinese one. Chinese was therefore the 6th and not 5th nuclear armed nation.
I was about to write the same. DeGaulle Force de Frappe
The video said wrong and right: China Was indeed the 5th after the US (1945), the USSR (1949), the UK (1952) and France, as you say but in 1960.
I always enjoy when geopolitics mixes with science. This was a great one 👏
Sexy Zhou Enlai was pretty rad
Victor M Deru,
RUclips, PhD levels will never work here, you need audience !
You can never trust Arabs, or Communists, only trust the West.
Geopolitics is what drives technology in a lot of cases.
Space Station, Chip war… History repeats itself, and surely we’ll get more big surprises too!
Don't miss the GNSS either (BeiDou and Galileo)
The fact that the Chinese were able to develop the hydrogen bomb faster than the France is amazing.
I never have any idea what your next video might be about. They are always entertaining and educational to watch, no matter the topic.
my parents worked at the facility where deng jiaxian, the father of the chinese a bomb, as theoretical physicists. they dont talk about what they did tho....
This guy has no idea whatsoever how the Chinese got the atomic bomb.
When the Jewish Rosenberg couple stolen the atomic bomb planes, and sold it to the Soviet Union, they also gave the patent to Israel.
Israel had the plans how to make the atomic bomb, but not the necessary elements, or the materials.
China had them both. Therefore Israel and China combined their possessions, and made the atomic bomb together.
That is how Israel and China got the atomic bomb in about the same time.
neither should you.
they probably shouldn't talk about what they did
希望你也替你爸妈保密，这是油管，害人之心不可有，防人之心不可无。
小心你成为有心人士盯梢的对象。
Good material good writing good narration A ++ overall do more please
I love the Asian history you make so much. Semiconductors are cool but this is why I started watching. Love to see more Taiwan and Shanghai content!
The country of Taiwan is an impressive place, except for the shark finning industry.
@@southbound1969 province *
@@ali99_82 The country of Taiwan has NEVER been ruled by or pays taxes to dirty China.
He is from taiwan so all his videos about china are biased, he is also an american citizen so he keeps shilling and defending America especially when it comes to them destroying japans economy
@@NeostormXLMAX Only taiwanese actually understand Taiwan. Not some mainlanders who know nothing about the locals.
My granddad actually worked on the china nuclear program in the 60s. There are still things he cannot tell us because of national secret, but he did go to tsinghua university in the late 50s.
Maybe the national secret is that China never built a nuclear bomb as U.S./soviets never built one since nuclear bombs not real. It was only national fear propaganda made in Hollywood Basement.
That's a happy ending.
Your research and presentation are always impressive. Thanks for your hard work.
How much Russian tech transfer mattered is like asking how much the Soviet bomb program benefitted from espionage. The basic physics is well known, and the fact that someone had solved the engineering problem earlier is critical.
It's harder to get the material to make it than to design it
@@user-pd9ju5dk5s It is hard to create something which has never been created and proven in reality.
@@kordelas2514 It was already proven by the Americans when they dropped it on Japan. China wasnt the first
@@user-pd9ju5dk5s How did you verify it? Do you claim that damage done in Japan could be done only by those weapons and not napalm and mustard gas?
@@kordelas2514 if you have a statement to make, please state it.
NOICE!
- Mao Zedong
Lenin and mao some of my favorite people in the same comment. noice
Wazzup Beijing
- Xi Jinping
**Summary of the RUclips video "How China Got the Bomb" by Asianometry**
This video describes the history of China's nuclear weapons program, from its beginnings in the early 1950s to its first successful nuclear test in 1964.
The video begins by explaining the context in which China decided to develop nuclear weapons. After the Chinese Civil War in 1949, the People's Republic of China was a relatively weak and isolated country. The United States and the Soviet Union were the only two nuclear powers at the time, and they were both hostile to China. Chinese leader Mao Zedong believed that developing nuclear weapons was essential for China's security and sovereignty.
In 1955, China and the Soviet Union signed a treaty of friendship and cooperation, which included a provision for the Soviets to help China develop nuclear weapons. However, the Soviets withdrew their support in 1959 after relations between the two countries deteriorated.
Despite the Soviet withdrawal, China continued its nuclear weapons program. In 1964, China successfully detonated its first nuclear bomb. The test was a major milestone in Chinese history, and it made China the fifth nuclear power in the world.
The video concludes by discussing the implications of China's nuclear weapons program. China's nuclear arsenal has deterred any foreign power from attacking China directly. However, China's nuclear weapons have also contributed to the proliferation of nuclear weapons in Asia.
**Time stamps:**
* 0:00-1:00 - Introduction
* 1:00-2:30 - Context: China's decision to develop nuclear weapons
* 2:30-3:30 - Soviet assistance and withdrawal
* 3:30-4:30 - China's independent nuclear weapons program
* 4:30-5:30 - China's first nuclear test
* 5:30-6:30 - Implications of China's nuclear weapons program
* 6:30-7:00 - Conclusion
Please note that this is a summary of the main points of the video, and it does not include all of the details. If you are interested in learning more about China's nuclear weapons program, I recommend watching the full video.
The fun part is that the text outlined in the Soviet treaty sounds like the Article 5 of NATO
the difference is nato is an offensive contract
for example iraq, yugoslavia, libya, afghanistan etc,
never attacked any nato country.
but they were still invaded by an organized nato force.
nato = mercenary for the usa.
france got in massive trouble and had sanctions placed on them for refusing to help invade iraq
@@NeostormXLMAX boo hoo, you can't commit genocide and ethnic cleansing freely anymore.
What an incredibility articulated and quality piece of work. I'm just blown away by the quality of contents from this and other "China" related channels. I have to purge all the propagandas that I've learned through western my education and media.
@Jizz I didn't think of that...didn't cross my mind. And I'm happy that he's a fellow American. In fact, I'm even more impressed. LOL Besides, it doesn't change anything in regards to the content.
Keep that mindset of purging western education lies and misdirections because it’s rampant my friend. Cheers.
This guy has no idea whatsoever how the Chinese got the atomic bomb.
When the Jewish Rosenberg couple stolen the atomic bomb planes, and sold it to the Soviet Union, they also gave the patent to Israel.
Israel had the plans how to make the atomic bomb, but not the necessary elements, or the materials.
China had them both. Therefore Israel and China combined their possessions, and made the atomic bomb together.
That is how Israel and China got the atomic bomb in about the same time.
Ahem infographics show
@@cjthebeesknees
As Chinese, may China purge it’s own propaganda and censorship as well. Cheers
I like how the Chinese fooled their enemies cleverly. It’s ironic, the same thing happened to China’s space program when the US denied China’s entry into the ISS, which accelerated their path to space. Thumbs up to the Chinese.
Plus the GNSS BeiDou vs. Galileo
"too sexy to disclose" got me!
I am near 60 and when young I was working with number of older people came from the mainland. They all said they had to suffer when China had to pay USSR for any help heavily. An example of payment with food, eggs and their sizes. The size of eggs had to be larger then a sized hole to be counted. The size of the hole became bigger and bigger. The smaller sizes that didn't count still went to USSR. If anyone ask a older Chinese person or from more remote area, what do they get for their birthday.... a red egg was special for most!!
Because Mao was stupid, nobody repay loans as one time payment, paying interests is good enough, but Mao did.....
@@commie5211 Really? Paying interests as US of A now? Or paying interests as the British did with cannon shoots? Call Chinese people what you want, but it is the actions that matters!!
@commie5211学习没有坏处，多读书吧。那个时间中国与苏联关系恶化，苏联要求中国一次性偿还贷款，中国不得不“勒紧裤子假装不饿”付出巨大经济代价去还钱，不是中国不想分期付款，而是中国不得不一次性还清贷款
@@令喆孟 那是你被告知的，事实上苏联从未要求一次还清，是毛自己主动还钱。事实上苏联还像东北“借出”了粮食？再说要还钱就得还钱，你看世界上有没有第二个国家如此还钱的？斯里兰卡还钱了，还是非洲还钱了？
@@chopper1239 actions like starving their own people.
another absolute banger from Asianometry
You make the best content, thanks for sharing
In 5 years you can come back to edit this video simply by replacing atomic boms with silicon chips and the USSR with USA.
For someone who stands completely on the Western side, it is indeed difficult to understand the self-reliance and self-improvement of the Chinese people
can you also make a video about how pakistan and india was able to have nuclear bombs. I am also interested about how the middle east in general particularly in iraq and iran was close to actually developing a nuclear bomb.
Nothing deep but - India had access to nuclear power pretty early on post-independence. Being the largest democracy with a massive energy deficit helped in convincing the West especially Canada in providing reactor tech and fissile material. Then comes the '62 war with China that was unilateral aggression from a nation India believed until then to be a friend and partner. Coupled with the Chinese test in the '60s prompted India to take a more realistic view that while India believed in peaceful use of nuclear energy she did not want to be caught with her pants down. So in the '70s India successfully detonated her own nuclear weapon allegedly by siphoning of the fissile material provided by Canada. Canada was livid. Fear of sanctions ensured no further tests until '98 when India tested all the theoretical advancements since '74 and caught the world with their pants down. India has a no first use policy and has a self-imposed unilateral moratorium on nuclear testing.
The Pakistani bomb is more a nuclear proliferation case study. North Korea, possibly aided by Chinese nuke charity, colluded with Pakistan to jointly develop both nuclear weapons and the missile platforms to deploy them. It was mostly a Chinese strategy, albeit a grossly stupid one, to disrupt the status quo with India by introducing a new variable. Sadly they introduced a loose cannon for a new variable. North Korea has repeatedly used it's nuclear weapon arsenal as a direct threat to strong arm negotiations with the South and allies. Pakistan on the other hand has a level headed establishment that IMHO would never first use nuclear weapons but that establishment itself is as weak as grandpappy's bladder on Christmas morning. With most trends signalling that Pakistan is a de facto failed state any power vaccum that eventually arises will imply missing nukes and a real broken arrow scenario for not just India but the World at large. Worries would begin at black market nuclear weapon supplies and end at Islamist terrorists waging nuclear jihad.
Iraq's nuclear programme was taken out by Israel. So irrespective of their intent Israel didn't wait around.
Iran is a different thing altogether. Not only is Iran arguably way stronger as a nation today than Saddam's Iraq but the fact that Iran is openly willing to cooperate with the IAEA makes Iran's intent transparent on paper. The recent purchase of Su-35's from Russia is the strongest possible deterrent against any unilateral action from Israel. Nonetheless Israel with 5th gen airpower might be willing to screw around and find out. This possibly is the hottest nuclear conflict zone of this decade!
@@EdilbertFernando was a young teenager in 1974, knowing of the 62 war I was glad India joined the Nuclear Club
@@jaymudd2817 Yeah, my late airman father would agree with you too. As tragic as it is for humanity these nukes do provide immense bargaining power for the posessing nation when it comes to dealing with the World and a very credible deterrence.
"Hey guys we got a nuclear bomb too now can we be a permanent member of the UN?" - India
"Hey china give Pakistan a nuclear bomb so we can shut India up" - US
@@EdilbertFernandolol india attacked china first, if china was aggressive there was zero reason why they would fall back and give back land
Can you make a video on Turkish drone industry?
2:01 it was nit just athreat, parts of the US Army considered it, and General MacArthur maybe wanted to use them, president Truman fired him to prevent nuclear war (though there were maybe also other issues involved).
Why don’t you have a bibliography in the description?
Cause his sources are posted in the video instead. It's RUclips, not Harvard.
@@bentimmer295 but they’re not. He only has the sources of the pictures
Touche'. Then its an opinion piece
In the Korea war, General MacArthur had a plan to drop 34 nuclear bombs on China before he was sacked (Wikipedia). In 1960s Britain also planned to use nuclear bombs in case of a war broke out in Southeast Asia or Hong Kong was invaded.
Is there a point there somewhere? They had plans of what to do if things went south with the allies as well, and it’s a good thing. A military that doesn’t look at the possibility of conflicts and how to handle them isn’t doing it’s job properly.
@@smeagle3295 sure, but nations dont go openly stating they want to nuke you. Which the us and the soviets very much did to china. That is, openly threaten nuclear annihilation.
I remember reading that. General MacArthur clashed with President Truman over the bomb controversy. MacArthur didn't want to go through another long drawn out war like he did in WW1 and WW2. Truman just thought it was too dangerous considering the Soviets would likely retaliate against the US.
@@winnienguyen4420 所以中国在美苏冷战时期在全国狂挖了一万个防空洞
MacArthur was full of himself, he underestimated his enemies, thus he got sacked.
Fantastic presentation. Always amazing to learn about Asian history. Something we almost completely don't learn in the western world
Great video ! Well researched, unbiased and great historic information ! Keep up the fantastic work and may God bless you always !
Well informed and clearly explained,..
One nitpick. The first atomic bomb was an implosion design. Trinity. They didn't test the gun model because of lack of material and they had confidence in the design.
The world has underestimated China and Chinese. Most importantly, we are all peaceful.
"peaceful" is subjective. 😂 😂
@@bronzebuilder2115 of course. Just look at the data. Tell me which country has China invaded and occupied before showing off your stupidity. You are following the Anglo-Saxon media narrative, you are either brainwashed or racist.
Don't believe?
My ancestors have been immigrating to Southeast Asia for a long time, trading most of the time. When the Europeans arrived, they simply colonized it and took everything to them. If you say my ancestors were not peaceful, then you are either racist or brainwashed. It is not SUBJECTIVE. You are just a racist that try to use modified narrative to hide Europeans' crimes.
Chinese have been moving to Southeast Asia to do business and integrated with the locals for over 1200 years, over 1000 years before Europeans found Southeast Asia. China had the means to occupy the region but China didn't. Your "subjective" is utterly rubbish and nonsensical. You are a racist and trying to push the blame to the Chinese.
You know what? You are either too stupid or you are trying to brush off the crimes Europeans have done in the region.
Europeans refuse to learn the real history of other people. They want to clean off all the histories and force everything into theirs. Chinese is one of the few races who refuse to comply and thus we are targeted. Everytime I support China as a Singaporean, you guys would only do what? Claim that I support communism. Of course, no proof, no evidence... only use words. Today China will correct Europeans' crimes. You guys will pay for your crimes.
India, Russia, and Vietnam might disagree.
@@jaymudd2817 India invaded and occupying Sikkim. Of course they would disagree. Russia occupying many lands of China, of course, they would disagree. USA threw agent orange and kill millions of Vietnam innocent civilians. China has never done that kind of things.
@@jaymudd2817 people has been brainwashed to the level that they cannot see the truth and facts.
You should do this for india pakistan and N korea too
And South Africa
Endia is not that significant so no need.
@@michaelg4158 Pakistanis are always butt hurt whenever they hear or read India
There is a video game on building the first bomb for iOS: 第九所 (di jiu suo)/The Ninth Institute.
Very interesting and informative, thank you! 😊
In other words the Bear gave the Panda its power.
After that, China did not slow down its nuclear weapons research. In the three years after 1964, they developed a more powerful Nuclear fusion hydrogen bomb, which was earlier than the developed country France. Their hydrogen bomb structure has more advantages than Western ones, and can be preserved for a long time with low maintenance costs. China's two bombs protected its peaceful development for decades, and it was during the golden period of development that China gained its current strength. Their generation was very difficult, but it also benefited their children and grandchildren. There is a famous saying in China: sin in the present day, profit in the future
This is like analogy to chips war between the US and China right now.
And just like before, the us is sending china brilliant scientists by openly discriminating and persecuting them.
Not even close.
Ren Zhengfei is Chinese Oppenheimer m
except the real owner of advantage chip technology are chinese be it engineer designers or descent nvda boss is not white guy last time i checked lol or amd lol
Not really related, but @ 3:19, that is a really fresh fade for the dude behind Mao, especially for the time period.
Thanks to Qian Xuesen, who not only helped China make great breakthroughs in the field of missiles and nuclear bombs, but also suggested in the 1990s that the Chinese government skip fuel vehicles and develop electric vehicles (now China is a country with advanced electric vehicle technology).
As an American officer said, he is worth at least five divisions.😋😋
这种话就鳖说了吧。人家歪果仁只会对华人留学生增加恐惧仇视和抗拒。中国有句话叫闷声发大财，你这一句评论不知道要毁多少留米博士的前途
Uh...huh...well, America and Europe had electric vehicles in the early 1900s. They weren't practical then and they're environmental nightmares now...
Absolutely stunning!!!!!! It would be greatly appreciated if someone could explain how the Soviet Union got their first atomic bomb in less than 5 years after the Americans manage to produce it .( The Los Alamos and other laboratories that were involved in the production of the first atomic bomb was possible because thousands of top class scientists and engineers ,many of them Europeans who escaped the Nazis.). It remains a mystery to me how the Soviet Union managed to produce their atomic and hydrogen bombs considering the fact that they were scientifically and technologically hugely inferior to the USA.
They were not inferior. And with the resources of Eastern Europe...
And it should be recalled that the Second World War has just ended. 27 million people were killed in the USSR. Hundreds of thousands of settlements lay in ruins. People lived in dugouts. All the industrial enterprises that survived were beyond the Urals.
Among the participants of The Los Alamos were those who were afraid of American imperialism and sympathized with the USSR. For the purpose of balancing, some participants copied and transmitted working documentation, diagrams, calculations, etc. to secret agents of the USSR. In addition, German scientists worked for the USSR, in particular, it was German scientists who designed a breakthrough method for enriching uranium using centrifuges.
Inferior? The Soviets were able to design and built their own rockets to space without German help, unlike the US.
@@johnmackenzie3871 Yes, the Americans took out the main German specialists for themselves,
as well as samples of missiles and rocket engines.
But the Soviets also managed to get something, for example,
a number of German specialists who worked on rocket stabilization
and flight control systems were taken to the USSR.
Samples of rocket engines have also been studied.
A copy of the V-2 was created and tested. ruclips.net/video/9IiFoPRl0uo/видео.html
However, in the end,since the USSR already had some independent developments in rocket engines,
the creation of developments based on the V-2 engine was considered inappropriate.
In particular, the German rocket engine had a very large combustion chamber,
in which it was difficult to achieve stable burning and high pressure.
By the way, you can still observe this difference between engines created in the USSR/Russian
and American engines. The first have small combustion chambers with four nozzles on one engine,
and American engines have one huge combustion chamber with one nozzle.
@@bulsond Yes Soviets also took a little bit of German help but those German engineers were returned back home in 1953. This is in contrast to the US where both the team that designed the rocket that took the US to the moon, and its director (Werhner von Braun and the Redstone team) were German.
It's ok. It will be rated the square of its actual yield, won't go off about 50% of the time right out of the box, but at only $0.37/unit, they will set them off like it's new year's eve.
In fact,it's really difficult for Chinese to make nuclear weapon because the blockade techniques.They even not have computer,so they use the abacus
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Yes, my predecessors suffered too much, but they also did the greatest thing! !
“Too Sexy to Disclose”
I really love your jokes. They come out of the blue and are really funny!
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Just to add, France exploded its first atomic bomb in 1960, making China the 5th nation to do so.
He says five but only give four, anglosaxon bias !
Israel may have done it in 63.
21:58 "a premature neutron burst resulting in an overall unsatisfactory performance."
I actually LOL at this.
Excellent video. Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video.
Why aren't you mentioning France in your list of countries that have the atomic bomb?!
France, Italy and Turkey(maybe already moved to Bulgaria) have usable nuclear weapons in the form of US made NATO ordinance as far as I know. The UK still maintain their Trident submarine fleet with nuclear warheads. If you have other information regarding France, please correct me.
@@PaulSpades France was the fourth country to test an independently developed nuclear weapon, doing so in 1960
@@PaulSpades There is no proof of existence of such weapons. France does not have them too.
@@earlysda No country has ever created such weapons because such reactions do not work in reality.
That's quite sad because the french developpement and the strategy of using them is quite comparable. One fallen colonial power and one giant underdevelopped country, both recovering from the war. And both countries adopted counter-value strategies (a.k.a target cities and factories, not enemy nuclear power) because both countries knew they could not make precise missiles en mass
Excellent, and very informative. On July 16, 1945, the world forever changed.
It is hard to forget one of biggest hoaxes done on the masses.
what happened
@@katiebarber407 Seriously? Google the date. Better you read it for yourself.
@@glennac oh the day the USA solidified it's path for worlds most evil nation
@@glennac just your average "informed" Western tankie
the question that you fail to see is : how britain and france got the bomb ?
CN is the fastest country to get their hydrogen bomb after getting the atomic bomb, and with Dr. Yu Ming's new structure that differs from US & Soviet, CN's hydrogen bombs can be kept longer and cheaper while a lot of the hydrogen bombs of US & RU are ineffective now because of natural aging and lack of maintainence budget after the end of Cold War
If only you knew
The only thing that ensured the security of the country against the imperialists around the world. 👍👍👍❤ Outstanding achievement!! 🎉
0:17: they joined the United States, Soviet Union, Great Britian, and *France* as an atomic power.
I would be happy to wager that some electrons are indirectly involved, but perhaps not specifically mentioned, when covering such a topic.
Chinese say " erections " not " elections"..
What?
@@Fred_the_1996 Sorry Fred, it was only my lame joke attempt to try to relate Asianometry's usual topics covering historically important developments in "electron-ics" to this video, where heavy atomic nuclei are split, causing a runaway chain reaction, hence the bomb. The lowly electron is hardly ever mentioned in these descriptions of such a serious topic.
Similar story of Huawei processor 😅. Self develop when left / force behind
If my neighbour bought a gun I have to get one
Wow, Today I was thinking about the chinese nuclear bomb and you just released an amazing video about it. Thanks.
Interesting story. Can you also do stories about how other nations get their nuke too, please?
Soviet spy's stole it from the US and the British were assisted by the US in creating theirs. France, India, and Pakistan are a bit more complex. Also I'm pretty sure Israel has it with help received from the US however they just don't talk about it. Which is actually very smart.
At 0:17 seconds,was said that the USA, Soviet Union, Great Britain,and China were the 5 atomic powers, even though their were only 4.
They skipped France, Israel may have had it in 1963.
How long did it take for China to make the great leap forward to thermonuclear fusion weapons? And how would they deliver these weapons?
China has some very new delivery vehicles that outperform anything in the US arsenal. The DF-ZF is a hypersonic MIRV that can deliver several warheads while maneuvering to avoid interception. Russia has even better ones, capable of circling to the US via the *south* pole, likely not even being detected before it started dropping it's payload(s) over the coasts.
I read that a later version of a nuclear bomb was actually delivered by a rocket
All major nuclear powers depend on one of three technologies. Submarine missles, air bombers and missles.
All ICBMs are hypersonics by nature. Don't let modern nonsense convince you otherwise. The US developed minuteman in the early 60s and the Chinese certainly can duplicate it. With a salvo approach, you can simply fire a group of missiles. The first array blankets the defence system and second gets through. The main defence against nuclear weapons is the assurance that all your own cities will be destroyed in a counterattack.
My understanding is the Chinese largely maintain a mutually assured destruction arsenal of over 200 bombs and feel that is suitable. Which it probably is.
@@kusotarre The US has similar things. They just have black budgets and don't like to sable rattle. They're already on top, so they don't want to give others excuses to develop more weapons.
@@kusotarre To my knowledge US hasn't invested much because the old systems are still effective, ICBM's normally travel 23+ mach. Let's say Russia or China can stop 3/4ths of warheads, (good for them!) as part of the strike plan just aim four warheads at anything important from different delivery vehicles. Detection isn't and hasn't been a problem for decades (it's safe to assume Russia has comparable detection ability.) You realize that there are literally half a dozen US and allied systems that could detect a launch as well as track before land based radars in the US see the incoming if fired in any direction towards the US. Mutually Assured Destruction is still very much a thing.
I've heard that at the end of the war in Europe, the Americans got their hands on several tons of Uranium metal from the Germans already enriched with their cyclotrons - the implications if true are pretty interesting. I believe it was the U-234.
Not true at all. The Nazis ended up having two seperate nuclear weapons programs and didn't give them enough focus. A side effect of fascism is that the leaders push for multiple competing factions to fight each other, so they are too busy to plot against the leader.
This might work to develop two parallel fighter aircraft, but nuclear weapons needed so much effort that it doomed the project to failure. As well, because Einstein and some other physicists were Jewish, the Nazis were hostile to Quantum mechanics and modern physics through much of the 30s, so that they never really recovered.
crazy how cooperation and working together is superior to unnecessary redundant competition when it comes to scientific progress. I wish the West had learned this instead of adapted Nazi Germany attitude of private property and competition
It’s true although hushed up, the guy above me has no idea what’s he’s talking about going off on a separate tangent that has nothing to do with the topic, more like a deflection.
@@cjthebeesknees it's hardly deflection, It's just that this claim has effectively no evidence. Though in a general review, given the Nazis did do some amazingly advanced research (especially the V-2, though its a near useless weapon without a nuclear payload.), why didn't they develop it. People have done load of work on this and those reasons I explained are exactly the reasons why the Nazis never developed the bomb. It was internal politics and a lack of faith in the bomb, both due to time taken to develop, plus a general strong unease with quantum physics, which is needed for nuclear weapons development.
It's also funny because the guy who got the first nuclear reactor to work, Fermi was a refugee from a fascist country, Italy.
@@letsburn00 Don't forget Leo Szilard who was also a refugee from a fascist country Hungary who were allied with them too...