As a Waspi woman, I wasn't expecting any compensation from either government. But the thing that infuriates me is the blatant bare-faced lies and deceit from this "so-called" government.
Im a 1956 girl and I worked out that as long as I live until I am 84 I will break even - after then the extra pension for the extra years will be a bonus. I knew I was going to have to work until at least 65 quite early on and I was getting wages during those extra years so I cant understand why its caused hardship. Even if you only found out 6 months before you just continue working and getting income until your time comes.
True, in May this year when in opposition, he was accusing Sunk of plotting to abolish fuel payments for pensioners.He's dangerous and has more faces than Big Ben.
No matter the party the problem is the sesspit called Parliment, Shit has , does and always will come out of it. Why you think politicains cannot call another a liar in that place..... simple because they all are
One out one in doesn't matter , while i agree that Reform is the best option, if there is no consequence's for betraying the people then there is always the possibility for foreign money to pays the captains wages
@@ianhunter2374 continuing to allow illegal immigrants to keep flooding in, giving them preferential treatment over indigenous population and allowing them to infiltrate all parts of the country. Pushing the climate crisis scam with the net zero 2030 agenda. Pushing the WOKE agenda in order to make a certain section of the community to believe they are oppressed. Ruining our farmers to cause them to sell their land so that it can be used for solar farms and wind turbines or developed for housing. Ruining the country by spending on wars and foreign aid. It will all end in a financial crash ushering in CBDC and digital id. I could go on but haven’t got time.
@@NevervousOtooleall labour need to go with him.they have let him run wild.all for him .need all out khan too an lammy.we are a laughing stock around the world.labour never be trusted.wd need oyr country back now .labour will not do that
@@elizabethsheffield6609he doesn’t have a conscience so he wouldn’t lose any sleep over anyone not even his relatives. Remember he is alright jack as he had a special bill passed specifically to protect his massive pension and to ensure that he doesn’t even have to pay any tax on it whilst us mere mortals have to pay tax on our pittances.
@@hikerwoody182 I will be and did do in GE July'24. It's just that The UK has missed a great opportunity to have ReformUK in government simultaneously with Trump in the Whitehouse. What a partnership that would have been. Sadly it will never happen now.
I am a pensioner. Who along with my wife worked very hard all my life. Saving for anything I ever bought, never used credit, couldn’t afford it. As I bettered myself and got better paid jobs I saved for my future, don’t have a massive amount of money but I can afford to live reasonably comfortably, any extra that the government gave me in winter fuel was a nice treat. But because I’ve been independent and never claimed anything from the government as I’ve just been above that income group. I get and will never get anything.
Go and put ANY extra money that you may have, somewhere else in a trusted family member name. Then claim poverty and claim ANYTHING you can. Utilise anyone that can help YOU. Unfortunately under this piss poor government, it’s you against them, so retaliate and help yourself, because THIS government won’t help you, even though you have paid in more than your share. Disgraceful Lie-bour government. Good luck British citizen. 🤞🏼🤞🏼🇬🇧🤞🏼👍🏼👏🏻. 🎄
It is that way all over. You work hard for a lifetime. You live a modest life & do everything you were brought up to do. You followed all the rules. Then, all that lifetime of being a " good" citizen has placed you JUST beyond that artificial line to recieve a bit of assistance from the country you supported your entire life. It is a common story all over & it is maddening!! My grandparents faced the same issue .
I remember hearing something about the adults had taken over.?? Turns out these adults are just the bullying arrogant abusers who just don’t care about anyone else other than their own self importance
The true test of a nation is how they treat their prisoners and their animals. We have Labour urging Judges to put people inside for Tweeting, while letting violent criminals out and we have Labour lifting the ban on carrying farmed chickens by their legs. They are the most repugnant group of gaslighters ever to hit our heritage.
Too many people think all pensioners are middleclass - dumb - there are more working class in the population - throughout every generation - they do all the low paid jobs & don't have high enough wages to save significantly.
That's true and those who were going to be able to manage when they retired got shafted in 1997 by Gordon Brown's windfall tax on pensions, this destroyed many pensions and the Tories never put it right , they just tinkered with it. My Mum wa a cleaner and my Dad was a caretaker. certainly not middle class or wealthy.
Parents who were cleaner and caretaker nighter middle class or rich would of worked very hard in there jobs , like I as a carer nights shifts for years amongst other hard working hard jobs now retired not at all recognised for how hard we have worked , this government just still wants to keep taking as well all wrong really wrong
@@JohnSchofield-j4i Ha! Ha!. Nothing what I rea said. This one man alone has removed most of the Christmas spirit from the people of the UK. Wonder what afflictions develop from aids if some one caught it. We may indeed see if the country gets lucky.
@@chriswhitcomb8675 Actually, it is classified as a benefit (even though it should not be), thats why its so unfair as @binmanblog mentioned and down right dangerous when a Madman like starmer gets in.
If they'd been run properly, it wouldn't be those of working age supporting pensioners, it would be the investment returns from those pensioners' own tax money.
@HVTNZ then we are forced to vote for a seriously rascist, far- right party that could do the unthinkable, it will not be on us but them for not listening. Our way of life is being destroyed and will get much worse if this continues, nearly too late now..
I’m a baby boomer and I’m just about to retire. I have got three adult children, I gave them the best education that I could afford and good teeth - I never bought them a car cause I couldn’t afford to. I own two houses outright, one is Spain and one on a beautiful Scottish Island just by me and my husband working hard and planning our spending. So, leave people like me alone because I have paid all my taxes and as a family, we have never broken the law - plus my three kids are an asset to humanity!
Don't worry. In April if Starmer stops general election we all stop paying bills, specially council tax . Then, we will make a deal on inheritance. Either, money or revolution. People are sick abd tired of such kind of government. Illegals are out of control. Taxpayers money every day goings to all kind of counties and pockets. Without our permission. Enough is enough.
@ that’s absolutely irrelevant, I’m talking about Starmer .A single individual who is making bad decisions. Truss wasn’t ‘propelled’ she was elected by the Tory membership.Grow up.
The riots exposed starmer sent him out of control that's when he started bringing out his own speech laws and all sorts but he only has his self to blame with the Southport cover up attempt saying its a Christian from Wales, vowing to protect muslim communities and there Mosques instead of everyone in society, so he knew then that Axel was a muslim and they was gonna be in trouble for butchering our little girls. And Starmer lost control from there he couldn't handle the riots and then decided to punish them harshly for it, then the news said its Two Tier treatment so then he punished everyone who spoke out against Starmer, Clarkson spoke out and he banned smoking and attacked the pubs,, the farmers said something and he taxed them, the working class got labelled far right thugs, he tried give an island away,, locked people up who speak out online ? he's a Marxist.
This is the one that got my goat ..Absolute cover up and protecting the usual suspects . Absolute despicable ,lying , bunch of traitors . Branding everyone that protested as far right ...As a life long Labour voter ,I will never forgive them ,ever . R.I.P. Peter Leach . Open boarders have dragged our country into the abyss.
The people at the top of this deep state, globalist goons owned.by the dark .have been eliminated by the light .they are not here anymore, so the puppets have lost their superior, no one to give them instructions, so they are lost.and making up their own, ideas.the white hats and the galactic federation, have taken them out,they are finished. Permanently. They have lost lost ,we the people have won.and we have to keep your vibe up, stay positive. And praise the Lord, hallelujah!
He was alledgedly shouting Allah Akbar while he was being arrested, you can alledgedly hear it in the video that came out. that is not Anti-Islamic nor Far Right.
@@JohnBeeblebrox Then you need to listen carefully when he is on the floor and surrounded by police, i'm not the only one who heard it either, in fact the video was on tousi tv and even he said he could here what was said.
Exactly typical of our country who think they are wonderful, as soon as I saw the news I knew that he was not anti. How the hell Germany missed him when they knew about it. Absolutely disgraceful.
@@JohnBeeblebrox Whether you heard any such thing, within the primary source material you watched, it's clear many others did... on the primary source that they watched.
I didn't, but I can see why people did, he took everything that he had promised on his mandate away. Plus people were fed up of tories. And they only got in with 20% of the vote.
We don`t need to get rid of Two Tier Free Gear Kier by himself, it`s the entire liebour party that needs to go. I think the whole country now knows where their vote should have went at the last election. Personally , I think it`s far too late to reverse the damage that has been done by both the cons and liebour, although, I do believe that giving up would be even worse. This is the last chance for British people with British values to make the correct choice.
Getting rid of Starmer will not help if the policies stay the same. Its a change of govt we need, this current Labour one is inept at best, treacherous at worst and very, very bad for the UK. We need a govt that isnt going to follow the WEF's agenda, as both the conservstives and now Labour are doing. If thats going to be Reform, then that remains to be seen.
You know all those pensioners that you allege are rolling in money ? They scrimped and saved to buy their homes and now you want to attack them for going without to get a better life. Some young people struggle to save for the deposit on their own home but sometimes their expectations are way more than we had in terms of what are essential expenditures. And as far as showering between Christmas and new year, what’s wrong with that? When I had my first flat in 1970s I had no bathroom and an outside toilet. I had a bath once a week at my in laws. Pensioners have EARNED the right to a decent retirement
They generation see us oldies for what we have now. I was 15 when I left school to work in a shop - that were all that was expected of me. I married at 21 and no way was I going to live like my parents, hand to mouth, Hire purchase - a very dirty word back then, one new pair of shoes chosen from a club book @ 2\6d a week, if I was lucky. Neither was I going to have children I couldn't afford. I saved to get married, paid for my own wedding and saved for a deposit on a house. In my mid 20s I passed an entrance test to train as a nurse. Now, obviously retired I worked all my life. I have a good life. BUT I WORKED. I paid full contributions NI. I (we) saved. We don't need the winter fuel allowance, happy provided it goes to others that do. But I see a chancellor looking at our house, our ISSAs and can't wait to get their 40% inheritance tax even before we go. Because at the moment, IMHO the equity of this country, probably is in the hands of, yes, us, THE BABY BOOMERS. Brown knew it, he of the NO MORE BOOM OR BUST - just bust, in fact that cost us a lot more on lost pension and savings than £300 a year winter fuel.
@@andrearoyd2942VERY well said. They DON'T have a clue. I'm also from the "Boomer Generation " AND started work at 15, and worked hard all my life. I feel BETRAYED by these VERY IGNORANT, ARROGANT people.
Yes, but they'd have to vote for a new PM and very often these days it is the Chancellor who gets it! There's not much to choose from the whole of the Labour Party, is there? I think that the best ones have left the party anyway!!@@telmas7183
I'm glad you can laugh at people not being able to eat this Christmas. I'm genuinely one of them, I will be eating a bacon sandwich with salt and vinegar crisps on the side. Starmer and Reeves have stuffed my Xmas well and truly. I can't even afford a card for my son and his family never mind buy my grandson anything. I know you do it tongue in cheak but some of us truly are suffering, please just give us a thought and slate this despicable government.
I'm a boomer. I worked hard, paid tax and NI, and in 2008 just one of my 6 pension funds lost £9,000 in one week. Thanks banks. Lost my job, cashed my pensions early to pay for mortgage arrears so ended up with £1.54 a week job seekers allowance and my home was eventually repossesed. I was officially homeless from 2012 to 2019, staying with friends and family, hotels and B&Bs. In 2015 I was sleeping in my car. I have clawed my way back from that and was finally housed by the council in October 2019. I own no properties in the plural and have used the tax free cash from my depleted pensions to pay off debts and survive. The rich boomers talked about here are definitely in the minority!
Only 300 signatures needed to crack 3 million on the petition for another election due to the lies told by Liebour to get in- let’s get it over 3 million by Christmas Day🙏🏻
No democracy on this island of theirs . A 12th century circus 🎪 of Parliament. Vote 🗳 is worthless . Unelected prime minister & Unelected lords & Unelected judges & Unelected cheif police & Unelected civil servant & Unelected church & Unelected Buckingham Palace & Unelected immigration , list can become endless !!! Bunch of dinosaur 🦕 system . Not fit for today's taxpayer's
Another ex-Prime Minister to pay a bodyguard to look after for the rest of his life - the trouble is that getting rid of Herr Starmer won't alter Labour's policies?
@@cgat1955 - it hurts their narrative…particularly in Germany, where the Establishment is desperate to keep the AFD branded as “Far Right/Neo-NAZI/Racists/Islamophobes/Hate Mongers”… Just as the Establishment/UniParty and Media is desperate to brand everyone to the Right of Rory Stewart or the One Nation Tories as Far Right Bigots.
He should be deported along with all immigrant criminals. Hopefully Reform will do it ignoring the human rights lawyers let them prove it wherever they are deported too
The problem is some like myself have worked the best part of 50 years and when I retire I will be just above the cut of line for benefits like council tax relief,while those who have had little to no interest in working will end up with a better income than myself!
Same story in alot of countries. These Communist type governments all operate the same, the World over. Get rid of the old, the sick, the informed, the well read, the self thinkers, the doers...These are the type of people that pose a risk to their countries. They only want those who won't work, those willing to accept spoon fed drivel, the incompetent, the mindless robots...in other words, those they can control. Power & control ia all they seek.
For past 27 years my day job involved meeting small traders, restaurants owners hoteliers. I swear to god I've never seen so many worried faces since starmer got in especially after budget. Expect carnage in 2025.
Pensioners had to prove when claiming government pension for the first time that they had worked and paid into the system,the Dwp then works out by the years the value of the pension they would be entitled to! Pensioners earned their pension money they paid in to receive it! 🙄
That petition is crooked. I kept my eyes on the numbers and it was rising steadily then a couple weeks ago it just ground to a halt instantly. Theres dodgy shenanigans going on for sure
Just because your a pensioner+ maybe own your own home, that means your in a situation to pay for that homes upkeep!!! Without the ability to actually work!+ apparently expected to live on 12 g a year! + Facter in the actual Fact !! you cant earn money due to old age or ill health!!! Give up? Sell my home, make myself homeless???!!! It totally lacks compassion again!! from Liebour! The threshold should of been higher to exempt you from help!! Paying your taxes all your life to be totally devalued by the government, having to choose Heat Or Eat!!!! Alone, elderly+ scared to go out in a lawless society 😞+ Liebour are alright Jack!!!!🤬🕳️
When that guy got pinned down by the police he could be heard saying A**** A***** and why would this ''far right'' guy mow down people in a Christian Christmas market? Guardian is not even for for toilet paper.
Even if they do remove Starmer they will just find another idiot from their ranks to replace him with, we need to just get rid of labour lock stock and barrel.
I am a Boomer and I don’t know any of these very rich Boomers you are talking about. I am still paying a mortgage, have the state pension and a small work pension so I am being taxed, have no winter fuel allowance and am a Waspi. I manage but it is one hell of a struggle.
I'm 71, working part time, have the state pension and a mortgage so we're probably in a similar situation financially. It's having the mortgage that causes issues.
Labour ministers said that there was no promises of compensation for the waspi women in the manifesto, I'd like to remind them that there was no promises in their manifesto to send £11 billion to other countries to help them adjust to climate change either
All this talk about a black hole is not true . They are creating there own black hole by giving billions of pounds away to foreign countries. 30 million to Syria why aid a terrorist government. The poor people in Syria will not see any of that money
How else are you to have nothing and be happy if they do not STEAL all of YOUR MONEY lol lol lol Oh and I do not have or need an economics degree to work that out...unlike some other 'Economist'
They laughed at Truss's budget, it turns out, it was the correct approach after all, (Argentina adopted the exact same approach and are the clear example of that approach being correct), though the Tories threw Truss under the bus, and rightfully lost the Election, and fully deserve their subsequent dismantling. Vote Reform.
That OLDER generation has worked bloody hard for their house and wealth and have paid their taxes from their teens....unlike many in society. Robbing them in old age is despicable.............They have already paid their dues over and over and over again.
@user-zz9gn2dc3l Bullshit - that coming from over entitled and lazy younger generation. I was dirt poor left home at 14 always worked crappy jobs never EVER claimed any benefits and I am female. Just lame excuses.
According to Labour, you can’t afford food and fuel because of your ‘perception’ bot because you can’t afford them. And if you don’t like it, Starmer said “the door is open, you can leave”. They are traitors to our nation.
Yes, I own my own house. It is worth a few thousand as any house is....but I still only have the government money to live on....what do you want t us to do?? Sell up so we can live on the house money in a tent in the park?? What needs to be addressed are the family who get the property eventually, they are the ones who will be in the money they should be helping parents now not planning how many cruises they can go on eventually
As a Waspi woman, I wasn't expecting any compensation from either government. But the thing that infuriates me is the blatant bare-faced lies and deceit from this "so-called" government.
all governments lie it could not function if it did not
Liebour was only interested in rewarding there union paymasters with a big pay rise.
False promised to buy votes. The number of u turns from Labour is now ridiculous.
Im a 1956 girl and I worked out that as long as I live until I am 84 I will break even - after then the extra pension for the extra years will be a bonus. I knew I was going to have to work until at least 65 quite early on and I was getting wages during those extra years so I cant understand why its caused hardship. Even if you only found out 6 months before you just continue working and getting income until your time comes.
True, in May this year when in opposition, he was accusing Sunk of plotting to abolish fuel payments for pensioners.He's dangerous and has more faces than Big Ben.
iT IS NOT JUST STARMER THAT NEEDS TO GO IT IS THE WHOLE lABOUR PARTY.
No matter the party the problem is the sesspit called Parliment, Shit has , does and always will come out of it. Why you think politicains cannot call another a liar in that place..... simple because they all are
Hands up if you can't stand Kier Stalin and the labour party. 🙋♀🙋♀🙋♀🙋♀🙋♀
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Wish I had a hundred hands 😆😆🙋♀️
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The petition to get rid of these crooks has just hit 3 million!
IT HIT 3,000,000 A LONG TIME AGO. FIDDLING GOING ON.
😂no
You think they care?
It’s a disappointingly low figure.
H-o-w Do I sign????.... :)
Vote this despicable government out!
Vote Reform 🇬🇧
Remind us again, when is the next election?
@@andyxox4168 He cannot remind you of that, because know one knows.
One out one in doesn't matter , while i agree that Reform is the best option,
if there is no consequence's for betraying the people then there is always the possibility for foreign money to pays the captains wages
and join yo haveore say
@@andyxox4168 It starts in May with the local elections. Thats why labour are running scared and trying to delay them.
Starmer is a failure to labour and embarrassment to Britain the sooner hes gone the better
Amen to that .
All of liebour voted to srop the OAP getting the fuel money.
They all are a failure
Yes he is, but he is a success as far as the WEF are concerned!
@geeemm909 I really don't see how
@@ianhunter2374 continuing to allow illegal immigrants to keep flooding in, giving them preferential treatment over indigenous population and allowing them to infiltrate all parts of the country. Pushing the climate crisis scam with the net zero 2030 agenda. Pushing the WOKE agenda in order to make a certain section of the community to believe they are oppressed. Ruining our farmers to cause them to sell their land so that it can be used for solar farms and wind turbines or developed for housing. Ruining the country by spending on wars and foreign aid. It will all end in a financial crash ushering in CBDC and digital id. I could go on but haven’t got time.
Starmer needs to realise that it isn’t just his mp's who want rid of him, it's everyone
..........and HASN'T HE GOT ANY RELATIVES who will suffer b.c. of his decisions who he "might" feel a tad sorry for, too????
Most of the world hate him...even our enemies 😂😂😂😂
@@NevervousOtooleall labour need to go with him.they have let him run wild.all for him .need all out khan too an lammy.we are a laughing stock around the world.labour never be trusted.wd need oyr country back now .labour will not do that
Except the WEF
@@elizabethsheffield6609he doesn’t have a conscience so he wouldn’t lose any sleep over anyone not even his relatives. Remember he is alright jack as he had a special bill passed specifically to protect his massive pension and to ensure that he doesn’t even have to pay any tax on it whilst us mere mortals have to pay tax on our pittances.
Starmers Labour has been the biggest recruiting sergeant for Reform
Vote Reform to save our deformed nation
Lies lies lies they all need to resign
Something more harsh than that needs to happen.
I'm actually pretty optimistic. Joined Reform UK and confident that the British people will unite to get this country back on track
But we need to wait 4 1/2 years, big problem.
@Jifdman just needs positive action. Join Reform UK. Vote Reform at the local elections, everything will follow
@@hikerwoody182 I will be and did do in GE July'24.
It's just that The UK has missed a great opportunity to have ReformUK in government simultaneously with Trump in the Whitehouse. What a partnership that would have been. Sadly it will never happen now.
@@hikerwoody182what local elections. They have cancelled most of them.
Why? the masses are morons and will just continue the 2 party cycle
I am a pensioner. Who along with my wife worked very hard all my life. Saving for anything I ever bought, never used credit, couldn’t afford it. As I bettered myself and got better paid jobs I saved for my future, don’t have a massive amount of money but I can afford to live reasonably comfortably, any extra that the government gave me in winter fuel was a nice treat. But because I’ve been independent and never claimed anything from the government as I’ve just been above that income group. I get and will never get anything.
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Unfortunately the country is finished.
Good luck to you ….
Go and put ANY extra money that you may have, somewhere else in a trusted family member name. Then claim poverty and claim ANYTHING you can. Utilise anyone that can help YOU. Unfortunately under this piss poor government, it’s you against them, so retaliate and help yourself, because THIS government won’t help you, even though you have paid in more than your share. Disgraceful Lie-bour government. Good luck British citizen. 🤞🏼🤞🏼🇬🇧🤞🏼👍🏼👏🏻. 🎄
It is that way all over. You work hard for a lifetime. You live a modest life & do everything you were brought up to do. You followed all the rules. Then, all that lifetime of being a " good" citizen has placed you JUST beyond that artificial line to recieve a bit of assistance from the country you supported your entire life. It is a common story all over & it is maddening!! My grandparents faced the same issue .
You have dignity and self-respect and have set a great work ethic to your family.
The true test of a nation is how they treat their elderly.
Callous Labour have been found wanting!!!!
& veterans 💯
Bless your elderly and become blessed
I remember hearing something about the adults had taken over.?? Turns out these adults are just the bullying arrogant abusers who just don’t care about anyone else other than their own self importance
The true test of a nation is how they treat their prisoners and their animals. We have Labour urging Judges to put people inside for Tweeting, while letting violent criminals out and we have Labour lifting the ban on carrying farmed chickens by their legs. They are the most repugnant group of gaslighters ever to hit our heritage.
Great. Get Starmer out. Though I fear he will be replaced by Reeves or Rayner. Best just get the whole Labour Party out in one swoop.
I think Cooper Balls 🎱 will want the job and Streeting They will have to vote on it so hopefully none of them would wants Thieves or the Growler
Naw they will!have to go with him. They couldn’t function anyway without their overlord pulling the strings.
@@personalcheeses8073 .........who's pulling HIS STRINGS...........apart from rich muzzy Ali?????
We will keep labour in for 10 years, feel free to move to Spain as a economic immigrant
@@Guniko-l2c I'm not leaving my own Country because a bunch of Communist 'wanna bes' are in power at the moment !
Too many people think all pensioners are middleclass - dumb - there are more working class in the population - throughout every generation - they do all the low paid jobs & don't have high enough wages to save significantly.
That's true and those who were going to be able to manage when they retired got shafted in 1997 by Gordon Brown's windfall tax on pensions, this destroyed many pensions and the Tories never put it right , they just tinkered with it. My Mum wa a cleaner and my Dad was a caretaker. certainly not middle class or wealthy.
Parents who were cleaner and caretaker nighter middle class or rich would of worked very hard in there jobs , like I as a carer nights shifts for years amongst other hard working hard jobs now retired not at all recognised for how hard we have worked , this government just still wants to keep taking as well all wrong really wrong
@@carolbaker-no6nj We’ve all been taken for a ride for decades by the elite but it will eventually change, I’m sure of that.
Liar starmer needs jail time
At minimum!!
You're both too kind. Softies!
@@JohnSchofield-j4i Make Madam G great again.
@@JohnSchofield-j4i Ha! Ha!. Nothing what I rea said. This one man alone has removed most of the Christmas spirit from the people of the UK. Wonder what afflictions develop from aids if some one caught it. We may indeed see if the country gets lucky.
his mate blair also.
We Want A Vote Of No Confidence NOW. Help Get OUR Country Back For The Sake Of OUR Men Women And Children
Yes no confidence in all councils.then do we get a revote
@Jennifer-x3m he'll just delay it because he's "saving democracy" 😂
It doesn't matter if pensioners have lots of money because they paid in. It's a pension not a benefit.
Absolutely correct, that seems to have been forgotten or covered up by this government.
The state doesn't have money. It just has debts. It spent all the wealth that was paid in and hid the debts off the books.
@@chriswhitcomb8675 Actually, it is classified as a benefit (even though it should not be), thats why its so unfair as @binmanblog mentioned and down right dangerous when a Madman like starmer gets in.
..........PRECISELY.
If they'd been run properly, it wouldn't be those of working age supporting pensioners, it would be the investment returns from those pensioners' own tax money.
Get him gone!
Get THEM gone!
Only have Reform left to vote for.
They’re too left wing for me
Yes it would be nice to have a real conservative party rather than a bargain bin Liberal party. @@user-ug8wx5er1w
What if they fail as well?
@HVTNZ then we are forced to vote for a seriously rascist, far- right party that could do the unthinkable, it will not be on us but them for not listening. Our way of life is being destroyed and will get much worse if this continues, nearly too late now..
Give Britain First a chance!
I’m a baby boomer and I’m just about to retire. I have got three adult children, I gave them the best education that I could afford and good teeth - I never bought them a car cause I couldn’t afford to. I own two houses outright, one is Spain and one on a beautiful Scottish Island just by me and my husband working hard and planning our spending. So, leave people like me alone because I have paid all my taxes and as a family, we have never broken the law - plus my three kids are an asset to humanity!
Don't worry. In April if Starmer stops general election we all stop paying bills, specially council tax . Then, we will make a deal on inheritance. Either, money or revolution. People are sick abd tired of such kind of government.
Illegals are out of control. Taxpayers money every day goings to all kind of counties and pockets. Without our permission.
Enough is enough.
I love your last statement. Hope your children know how you feel. I'd love my mum to say or think that about me.
Well said ..basically if you,ve worked hard all your life and paid your taxes and paid your debts off .Your under threat by this lot.
And there's your problem,play fair and they will screw you.
Well said.
You've got to question the judgement of someone elevates Rayner to Deputy PM and David Lammy to Foreign Secretary.
Rayner is an appointment designated by the unions. Why do you think they've given train drivers and public sector workers huge pay rises?
You are so right😊
Well someone propelled Truss to PM. So don't throw stones in glass houses.
@ that’s absolutely irrelevant, I’m talking about Starmer .A single individual who is making bad decisions. Truss wasn’t ‘propelled’ she was elected by the Tory membership.Grow up.
@@chrisbateman3687 you’re wrong, she is nominated by the PM and appointed by the Monarch
They are so disconnected to normal life in the UK its extremely disturbing.
Get Them out. NOW
The riots exposed starmer sent him out of control that's when he started bringing out his own speech laws and all sorts but he only has his self to blame with the Southport cover up attempt saying its a Christian from Wales, vowing to protect muslim communities and there Mosques instead of everyone in society, so he knew then that Axel was a muslim and they was gonna be in trouble for butchering our little girls. And Starmer lost control from there he couldn't handle the riots and then decided to punish them harshly for it, then the news said its Two Tier treatment so then he punished everyone who spoke out against Starmer, Clarkson spoke out and he banned smoking and attacked the pubs,, the farmers said something and he taxed them, the working class got labelled far right thugs, he tried give an island away,, locked people up who speak out online ? he's a Marxist.
This is the one that got my goat ..Absolute cover up and protecting the usual suspects . Absolute despicable ,lying , bunch of traitors . Branding everyone that protested as far right ...As a life long Labour voter ,I will never forgive them ,ever . R.I.P. Peter Leach . Open boarders have dragged our country into the abyss.
Correct. Starmer is a Marxist pretending to be a democrat but his lies are not working anymore.
The sign of a dictator !
The people at the top of this deep state, globalist goons owned.by the dark .have been eliminated by the light .they are not here anymore, so the puppets have lost their superior, no one to give them instructions, so they are lost.and making up their own, ideas.the white hats and the galactic federation, have taken them out,they are finished. Permanently. They have lost lost ,we the people have won.and we have to keep your vibe up, stay positive. And praise the Lord, hallelujah!
The police are on their way to “check out your thinking“
Let get this junk out!!.Hurry up and sign the petition if you've not done so yet!..🙏🙏🙏👌👌👌🥳
Take Reeves and Rayner with you.
He was alledgedly shouting Allah Akbar while he was being arrested, you can alledgedly hear it in the video that came out. that is not Anti-Islamic nor Far Right.
I watched the primary source material and heard no such thing.
@@JohnBeeblebrox Then you need to listen carefully when he is on the floor and surrounded by police, i'm not the only one who heard it either, in fact the video was on tousi tv and even he said he could here what was said.
Exactly typical of our country who think they are wonderful, as soon as I saw the news I knew that he was not anti. How the hell Germany missed him when they knew about it. Absolutely disgraceful.
@@JohnBeeblebrox Whether you heard any such thing, within the primary source material you watched, it's clear many others did... on the primary source that they watched.
@@JohnBeeblebroxIt's quite clear. He repeatedly says it.
Under labour same thing happened back in 90s ..why would anyone vote Labour 😮
Brain dead ones and those who have to follow what the family did and liebors favourite people
Dolites and foreigners!
I didn't, but I can see why people did, he took everything that he had promised on his mandate away. Plus people were fed up of tories. And they only got in with 20% of the vote.
because they're stupid
ITS also the ppl that were to lazy to go out and vote that let them slip in 😡
The Labour party especially the front bench lack honesty and integrity
Vote REFORM to save what’s left of this country!
labour are finished along with conservatives, lib dems and green party
Reform will need the Tories to pick up the seats they can't to form a coalition. Tories and Reformers need to vote strategically to get Labour out.
NONE of them are trustworthy
@@LynnEbury-k7sKemi is a WEF like Sunak, no one has the guts to stand against the wicked WEF, BUT JESUS WILL DEAL JUSTLY
Very niave!
@@satcha203 is there someone close by that can help you with english? all comments in english, thanks ever so much!
We don`t need to get rid of Two Tier Free Gear Kier by himself, it`s the entire liebour party that needs to go.
I think the whole country now knows where their vote should have went at the last election.
Personally , I think it`s far too late to reverse the damage that has been done by both the cons and liebour, although, I do believe that giving up would be even worse. This is the last chance for British people with British values to make the correct choice.
It what we are trying to achieve
Getting rid of Starmer will not help if the policies stay the same. Its a change of govt we need, this current Labour one is inept at best, treacherous at worst and very, very bad for the UK. We need a govt that isnt going to follow the WEF's agenda, as both the conservstives and now Labour are doing. If thats going to be Reform, then that remains to be seen.
You know all those pensioners that you allege are rolling in money ? They scrimped and saved to buy their homes and now you want to attack them for going without to get a better life. Some young people struggle to save for the deposit on their own home but sometimes their expectations are way more than we had in terms of what are essential expenditures. And as far as showering between Christmas and new year, what’s wrong with that? When I had my first flat in 1970s I had no bathroom and an outside toilet. I had a bath once a week at my in laws. Pensioners have EARNED the right to a decent retirement
We certainly have
Thank you.
So true..
They generation see us oldies for what we have now. I was 15 when I left school to work in a shop - that were all that was expected of me. I married at 21 and no way was I going to live like my parents, hand to mouth, Hire purchase - a very dirty word back then, one new pair of shoes chosen from a club book @ 2\6d a week, if I was lucky. Neither was I going to have children I couldn't afford. I saved to get married, paid for my own wedding and saved for a deposit on a house. In my mid 20s I passed an entrance test to train as a nurse. Now, obviously retired I worked all my life. I have a good life. BUT I WORKED. I paid full contributions NI. I (we) saved. We don't need the winter fuel allowance, happy provided it goes to others that do. But I see a chancellor looking at our house, our ISSAs and can't wait to get their 40% inheritance tax even before we go. Because at the moment, IMHO the equity of this country, probably is in the hands of, yes, us, THE BABY BOOMERS. Brown knew it, he of the NO MORE BOOM OR BUST - just bust, in fact that cost us a lot more on lost pension and savings than £300 a year winter fuel.
@@andrearoyd2942VERY well said. They DON'T have a clue. I'm also from the "Boomer Generation " AND started work at 15, and worked hard all my life. I feel BETRAYED by these VERY IGNORANT, ARROGANT people.
Get rid of Starmer as PM and what will we get in his place? Rachel Reeves? God forbid!!
Angela Rayner is the deputy PM!
@@telmas7183 Noooooooo!!
First starmer, then his traitorous party...
Yes, but they'd have to vote for a new PM and very often these days it is the Chancellor who gets it! There's not much to choose from the whole of the Labour Party, is there? I think that the best ones have left the party anyway!!@@telmas7183
@@telmas7183 for crying out loud please do not say that out loud.. things are bad enough..
Shocking, shocking, swift action, difficult decisions, getting on with the job, black hole, someone else’s fault!
Black hole and they give 59 million to Syria run by terrorist. Not a good move that will go on re arming the terrorist
One -Year Keir...
I'm glad you can laugh at people not being able to eat this Christmas. I'm genuinely one of them, I will be eating a bacon sandwich with salt and vinegar crisps on the side. Starmer and Reeves have stuffed my Xmas well and truly. I can't even afford a card for my son and his family never mind buy my grandson anything. I know you do it tongue in cheak but some of us truly are suffering, please just give us a thought and slate this despicable government.
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May Jesus bless you Paul
Would you like some money for food?
I'm a boomer. I worked hard, paid tax and NI, and in 2008 just one of my 6 pension funds lost £9,000 in one week. Thanks banks. Lost my job, cashed my pensions early to pay for mortgage arrears so ended up with £1.54 a week job seekers allowance and my home was eventually repossesed. I was officially homeless from 2012 to 2019, staying with friends and family, hotels and B&Bs. In 2015 I was sleeping in my car. I have clawed my way back from that and was finally housed by the council in October 2019. I own no properties in the plural and have used the tax free cash from my depleted pensions to pay off debts and survive. The rich boomers talked about here are definitely in the minority!
Only 300 signatures needed to crack 3 million on the petition for another election due to the lies told by Liebour to get in- let’s get it over 3 million by Christmas Day🙏🏻
It went over the 3m mark at 7pm
It went over the 3m mark at 7pm today
He shouted Ali’s snack bar when he was arrested by the police.
No!
The government is spending way too much on the apparatus of the state and way too litlle on the British people young and old
3 Million voters have had the same idea.
No democracy on this island of theirs . A 12th century circus 🎪 of Parliament. Vote 🗳 is worthless . Unelected prime minister & Unelected lords & Unelected judges & Unelected cheif police & Unelected civil servant & Unelected church & Unelected Buckingham Palace & Unelected immigration , list can become endless !!! Bunch of dinosaur 🦕 system . Not fit for today's taxpayer's
Another ex-Prime Minister to pay a bodyguard to look after for the rest of his life - the trouble is that getting rid of Herr Starmer won't alter Labour's policies?
A definite case of “taqiyya”…we know from the fact that he was shouting “Allah Akbar” when they arrested him!
I hear what you’re saying, I can’t understand why our government is covering up all the lies.
@@cgat1955 - it hurts their narrative…particularly in Germany, where the Establishment is desperate to keep the AFD branded as “Far Right/Neo-NAZI/Racists/Islamophobes/Hate Mongers”…
Just as the Establishment/UniParty and Media is desperate to brand everyone to the Right of Rory Stewart or the One Nation Tories as Far Right Bigots.
He should be deported along with all immigrant criminals. Hopefully Reform will do it ignoring the human rights lawyers let them prove it wherever they are deported too
@@cgat1955They started this nonsense. They can't suddenly tell the truth.
Because they're liers aswell
Depose him or not , the damage is done
If he does go, the same shadows will remain in power. We need big Nige in to drain the swamp.
Tories and reform need to join and elect Farage as leader.
His party need to get him out 👉👉👉
His party need to get out!!
@lynmedcraft the whole org , coun mems , the blyub too
Simply getting rid of Starmer will change nothing Labour needs to go
The whole Labour government needs to go. Supposing Starmer goes, look who the deputy PM is !
Vote reform nigel for pm ❤
Totally agree with you on that one
Starmer needs to go, I’m a cold pensioner.😡
The problem is some like myself have worked the best part of 50 years and when I retire I will be just above the cut of line for benefits like council tax relief,while those who have had little to no interest in working will end up with a better income than myself!
Same story in alot of countries. These Communist type governments all operate the same, the World over. Get rid of the old, the sick, the informed, the well read, the self thinkers, the doers...These are the type of people that pose a risk to their countries. They only want those who won't work, those willing to accept spoon fed drivel, the incompetent, the mindless robots...in other words, those they can control. Power & control ia all they seek.
Yet they give money and pay their hotel bills and they have not paid a penny into the system can you guess who they are???
That's great the sooner Starmer goes the better.
I wish the Labour Party would give everyone an early Xmas present and GO !!!
Depose the lot
For past 27 years my day job involved meeting small traders, restaurants owners hoteliers. I swear to god I've never seen so many worried faces since starmer got in especially after budget. Expect carnage in 2025.
To state the tories left the economy in a good state is pathetic - and we are NOT heading for a recession. We are heading into a full on DEPRESSION
Well they certainly left it in a better State than Starmer will ever leave it in.
Get the traitor out, Deus Vult.
Pensioners had to prove when claiming government pension for the first time that they had worked and paid into the system,the Dwp then works out by the years the value of the pension they would be entitled to! Pensioners earned their pension money they paid in to receive it! 🙄
Germany was warned, so if they listened so yes they could have stopped it. That blood is on the hands, of the Government and police.
Legislation just passed: anytime four or more Christians congregate armed guards and barriers required.
be aware the petition call a general election currently has 2,998,696, signatures its an eyelash away from 3 million
Won't change a thing we have to give them a reason to fear ignoring us
That petition is crooked. I kept my eyes on the numbers and it was rising steadily then a couple weeks ago it just ground to a halt instantly. Theres dodgy shenanigans going on for sure
It is being rigged.
@@bossa65 states a Liebor 🤡
That's not how it works Hun!
Just because your a pensioner+ maybe own your own home, that means your in a situation to pay for that homes upkeep!!! Without the ability to actually work!+ apparently expected to live on 12 g a year! + Facter in the actual Fact !! you cant earn money due to old age or ill health!!! Give up? Sell my home, make myself homeless???!!! It totally lacks compassion again!! from Liebour! The threshold should of been higher to exempt you from help!! Paying your taxes all your life to be totally devalued by the government, having to choose Heat Or Eat!!!! Alone, elderly+ scared to go out in a lawless society 😞+ Liebour are alright Jack!!!!🤬🕳️
Well said totally agree 👍 😊
When that guy got pinned down by the police he could be heard saying A**** A***** and why would this ''far right'' guy mow down people in a Christian Christmas market? Guardian is not even for for toilet paper.
Oh, yes...😂
I hope this is true
Who is the alternative - please not Angela Rayner, Rachel Reeves or David Lammy!
Or milliband too.
Diane Abbott for the win
@@nathanbeck4927 OMG
And the obvious replacement is?....... be careful what you wish for!
I agree, so many voted Labour to get rid of Tories.
No one talks about the thing that causes recession the same people who want to control the new CBDC's ....like they have earned our trust.
247 page form to fill in for pension credit, so they really want pensioners to get it. You would lose the will to live trying to fill it in😮
Its one hell of a joke If u didnt laugh about it ud cry.
Even if they do remove Starmer they will just find another idiot from their ranks to replace him with, we need to just get rid of labour lock stock and barrel.
I am a Boomer and I don’t know any of these very rich Boomers you are talking about. I am still paying a mortgage, have the state pension and a small work pension so I am being taxed, have no winter fuel allowance and am a Waspi. I manage but it is one hell of a struggle.
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I'm 71, working part time, have the state pension and a mortgage so we're probably in a similar situation financially. It's having the mortgage that causes issues.
They have to go 😠
Labour ministers said that there was no promises of compensation for the waspi women in the manifesto, I'd like to remind them that there was no promises in their manifesto to send £11 billion to other countries to help them adjust to climate change either
All this talk about a black hole is not true . They are creating there own black hole by giving billions of pounds away to foreign countries. 30 million to Syria why aid a terrorist government. The poor people in Syria will not see any of that money
We've got at least 45000 on the MI5 watch list.....that they KNOW of....the Glasgow airport attack in 2007....
Believe it when it happens
I don't care about a recession I've lived my whole life in a recession it's the rich that drive 2 Bentley that suffer
Rayner owns a Bentley..
Where are the conservatives in this rebellion against Stalin. Do they want him to stay?
Tories are globalist Liberal lefty loonatics too.kemi is another WEF puppet!
There's not much the Tories and Labour disagree on.
To busy trying to stop Reform getting in power
All of Labour needs to go.
And face charges.
How else are you to have nothing and be happy if they do not STEAL all of YOUR MONEY lol lol lol Oh and I do not have or need an economics degree to work that out...unlike some other 'Economist'
I remember a video of Keir Steimer saying ‘YOU SHOULD GO TO JAIL!!!’ to other parliament members because of what they have done.. well..
Starmer wont make new year 😅
There's time enough, Before Christmas!
He won’t resign so it will have to be post Xmas
I'll bet you he does? How much do you want to bet? A grand. Two, five?
They laughed at Truss's budget, it turns out, it was the correct approach after all, (Argentina adopted the exact same approach and are the clear example of that approach being correct), though the Tories threw Truss under the bus, and rightfully lost the Election, and fully deserve their subsequent dismantling.
Vote Reform.
It was the bastards in the Bank of England who threw Liz Truss under the bus,not the Conservative back benchers.
What a surprise the budget has caused what labour wanted a recession.
So there will be more even low paid jobs
That OLDER generation has worked bloody hard for their house and wealth and have paid their taxes from their teens....unlike many in society. Robbing them in old age is despicable.............They have already paid their dues over and over and over again.
And presided over policies pulling up the draw bridge to the following generations who have never had the same opportunities!
@user-zz9gn2dc3l Bullshit - that coming from over entitled and lazy younger generation. I was dirt poor left home at 14 always worked crappy jobs never EVER claimed any benefits and I am female. Just lame excuses.
The very, very far, wrong party ... and they bullied Boris out because he was wrong to party .
We live in hope...
My mum is 68 and still works, doesn't own even 1 house!
Shower? I cant afford a dip in a puddle. only 28 days till pay day.
I cancelled christmas just cannot afford extra money 😢
I can't even afford a golden shower :(
According to Labour, you can’t afford food and fuel because of your ‘perception’ bot because you can’t afford them. And if you don’t like it, Starmer said “the door is open, you can leave”. They are traitors to our nation.
How did our grandparents manage without a daily shower ? I don’t remember any unpleasant smells.
@matildamartin2811 back in 70s we didn't have a shower we all shared same bathwater
What a shit show of parliament ..
It won't work, there is far too much darkness going on behind the scenes
Careful what you wish for with Labour, chances are we will end up with someone like Lammy as PM.
Balmy Lammy more dangerous 😂
Yes, I own my own house. It is worth a few thousand as any house is....but I still only have the government money to live on....what do you want t us to do?? Sell up so we can live on the house money in a tent in the park?? What needs to be addressed are the family who get the property eventually, they are the ones who will be in the money they should be helping parents now not planning how many cruises they can go on eventually
Leave the state pension alone and do something about public sector pensions
I went to Berlin Germany in 2018 and stayed in a small hotel and there were NO GO ZONES warnings everywhere robbery rapes and gay bashing
the petition is now over 3 million
When the police had him at gun point he was shouting alans snack bar as he laid on the ground , the footage is out there .
More like millions can’t afford to shower between Christmas and New Years 🤣
Smelly.
Do away with the index linked pensions of the civil servants.
Mass unelected muppets everywhere in this island