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Fixing a Viewer's BROKEN Gaming PC? - Fix or Flop S4:E20
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- Опубликовано: 3 янв 2024
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Welcome to Fix or Flop! We're up to Season 4, Episode 20 - the season finale! This PC is actually the one we built in a recent video - and it doesn't POST! Can it be fixed? By the way, if you live in the Orlando, FL area and have an issue with your PC, apply to have it (possibly) fixed for free today! gregsalazar.com/fix-or-flop
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At least you didn't have to drive pretty far to get this guy's PC.
Are you sure about that? I heard Florida traffic is the worst… 😳🤨🤔😬🤭
Greg, I must admit that for the past couple years ive really gotten into PC gaming and building from watching fix or flop, pcdc and gcdc. Also some of the only flops which was hilarious. Can't get enough of these videos. They have taught me everything I know about PC building. Built my own and my friends in 2023.
That's awesome. Thanks for the support, Andy!
I have learned so much over the past couple years from Greg and now understand so much about building and repairing my family thinks I’m an IT lol 😂
I am not convinced this one was on you Greg. I have had boards come with slightly bent pins in the past, it’s rare, but it can happen. Judging by the video of you installing the CPU, it really doesn’t look like you did anything wrong. It’s entirely possible that one pin was just a little off from the factory, I am not 100% convinced this was on you.
I wonder if this is a case of some kind of manufacturing issue that only became apparent years later, where the pin was making contact but just barely.
Me too.
It really didn't look like you did anything wrong during the CPU install to me.
The cpu install looked good to me too.
I thought the same when I saw the video. There is no way he bent a pin installing that CPU.
I agree with this. It's hard to bend one pin just like that. I didn't see anything out of the ordinary with the slow motion replay Greg put it the video.
I've heard countless stories of Asus, MSI, and Gigabyte fighting with customers over bent pins.
Even the most experienced of us, still make mistakes. Full respect for holding your hands up and admitting that.
I must admit I do enjoy the throwback builds, how older hardware stands up with today’s games.
During 2020 I built a sleeper build in an old 19 year old case with an i7 4790, Asus CS-B coupled with an RX470 GPU.. still holds up.
the x58 plat form is probably my all time favorite ..its what i really learned the nuts n bolts of Overclocking & building a custom water loops water cooled 560ti Then Titans started with the 920 as most did then went to the 980 oc to 4.2ghz i think wd raptors n Raid 0..just a lot o fun for me back n the day !
Is it a coincidence that your PC happens to be season 4 episode 20? I definitely laughed about it :D
Read this as I'm about to fire up the torch.....
Don't worry LGA1366 pins bend even if you breathe on them too hard 🤣 I've fixed loads and had to throw away loads of boards that have ended up my way with socket damage.
You might not have damaged that socket when putting the cpu in. The age of the board would have made all the pins more delicate and could have shifted in transit. Glad you managed to get it working.
i need to step into this greg, back in the day it was pretty normal, that LGA sockets were messed up from the factory, so this is something you could run into even if you dont do anything wrong here.
Here so early the PC is still broken
I helped my son rebuild his gaming rig over the holidays and we replaced the MB, RAM, new CPU, added 4 M.2 drives, new CPU cooler, and a new case. Once done, it booted right up and he has been playing it ever since. He was so surprised when it booted the first time after the rebuild, thanks Greg.
Cool story!
Happy New Year Greg! I know it hurts, but try not to stress on the CPU mistake. Even the most experienced PC builder still make simple mistakes. Cheers! 🍻
Hey Greg, regarding flashing BIOS without having BIOS Flashback, take a look into CH341A EEPROM Programmers or an SkyPRO II (that's what I use now). You could do a video about it by intentionally bricking a motherboards bios and show how to recover them in case you need to. I recover motherboards regularly with this. Sure, a CH341A does not work on all boards tho but I guess it would be a great video regardless. Especially when you consider that a full CH341A kit costs about 20 bucks its worth a shot to try to recover your board especially when its out of warranty
EZP2023 is way better
That would be great
Thatd be cool to see done Ive had good luck buying programmed replacement bios chips even some of the dell and Hp with hacked bios they either just work or dont but even the two that didnt I gave them more board info in an email and got one that worked in a few days for 12 bucks a piece its a cheap win when everything fires up and just works
Love you videos keep up the great work man building my first pc this Monday
You can do it!
It’s very easy. I’ve rebuilt my computer twice now.
Finished building it a week ago amazing performance got 7600f and 6800 xt asus tuf it's a beast
When you said everything seemed to be working fine but the PC wasn't sending images to the monitor, it gave me flashbacks of the saga that was upgrading my GPU in December.
I bought a Gigabyte RX 7600 8GB OC model on Black Friday, but it wouldn't show any images. I imagined the problem was lack of power, since my PSU was a 500W and the recommendation was 550W, so I traded in my old PSU with my RX 560 to get a discount on a 750W PSU.
After installing it, the GPU showed the same symptoms, refusing to even get detected by windows (but the metal plate would still get hot, so it was receiving power). Its fans weren't spinning, but it's a model that doesn't spin the fans until it needs to, so I thought the problem was on the BIOS. I followed the instructions perfectly, downloaded the latest AMD chipset driver that was on the Gigabyte website (motherboard is also Gigabyte, coincidently), updated my BIOS to version f31 (if memory serves) before doing any further updates as per instructions, but when I tried to update further there was an issue with the installation and corrupted the BIOS.
I sent the PC to a trustworthy business where I live, have been their client for over 20 years, and asked them to recover the BIOS (my MOBO has double BIOS in case the main one gets messed up, so you can fix it, but this update made it so that the MOBO wouldn't post even on the backup BIOS) and make the GPU run. They couldn't recover the BIOS and it turns out the problem was the GPU - it wouldn't display images on any of the other three PCs they tested.
So now I had a brand new PSU, a dead motherboard and a dead brand new GPU. Since I work from home and my gaming PC is my work PC, I had to buy a new MOBO with all the USB ports I needed, and the only one I could find to be delivered in less than a week was the Gigabyte Aorus Elite V2. Ende dup buying it, had the repair shop install it for me because I didn't have thermal paste and didn't want to risk breaking the CPU in the process given how well things were playing out for me last month. Luckily my CPU is a Ryzen 5 2400G, so I could use the integrated graphics to display image and go back to work, though I could only play very light games in the meantime and was down one monitor.
Then I begun the RMA process for the GPU. I don't know if this is the same for every part of the world, but the process in Brazil is too bureaucratic, with various redundancies and I had the misfortune of being paired with a guy that just didn't want to give any more than the barest of the minimum of information and ignored my e-mails when I asked for more details. I somehow managed to get through their service, and from there it was smooth sailing on that part, but then I had to send the package through Brazil's mail service - Correios! If you Americans think FEDEX is bad, I laugh at your face!
Finally, a whole 31 days after I received my GPU in November, I finally had it back and working! But goddammit, I spent far too much on this stupid upgrade when I didn't have to, ended up making one upgrade I was trying to get away with not needing to and one that was 100% unexpected, had all this down time without my computer unable to work, and when I had it back I still had to refrain from gaming because I had to recuperate my time lost not working and because the games I wanted to play just weren't going to run on the poor 2400G's GPU. The GPU is working flawlessly now and the LED Logo paired with the AORUS LED on the motherboard do look great, but my wallet is crying on an empty stomach on the corner of my house now.
Good one Greg well done i did think it was a CPU problem at the start
Great to see proof of 'be careful when placing the CPU into the socket'.
Also great to see that you could fix it. Keep up the great videos.
The amount of times I've had a PC issue and fixed it because I remembered seeing it in fix or flop, you really are doing the Lords work! 🙏❤
No Sweat Greg, I remember not taking the CMOS Battery out and the system did nothing,.. reading the manual and finding out that different clock settings killed the cpu oops but learned
can't wait till Season 5 enjoy the show Enjoy.... your build!!!!!
Looks on your face when its boot up is priceless ,great to see this nostalgia up and runing💙
It's crazy how something so minor can break everything. I love this show a lot. It keeps on my toes when I'm doing my own work.
Thank you so much Greg for these videos. I love watching them. I just upgraded my power supply from a 750w to a 1300w and my graphics card from a RTX 2070 to a RTX 4070. Turned it on annnnd no picture out. Didnt panic, cleared cmos, no change. Took out ram, put ram back in, and she booted. Before getting hooked on your videos I would have been panicing having spent nearly $800 on those upgrades. Thank you again for these videos. ❤
Did miss the return to owner video, to see how happy he was, though I suppose your grin towards the end says it all.
3:53 Try Reseating the Ram and make sure the clips are closing fully after turning off power of course, next I would try the on board video using an adapter to fit your monitors cable, CMOS is always good to change battery.
The first thing I noticed was how clean for an old pc that was, bravo to the owner.
I've just finished rebuilding my old PC into a new case. Got the final part, the SSD, today and installed Zorin OS 😁
Good work there i had this platform until middle 2023 when decided to finally update after building it on 2011 as my first pc with my first job as data analyst running solid all those years until it started having compatibility issues in games. Still have it stored for a possible arcade machine as it was running smooth yet after 12 years
Ahh the x58 triple channel setup. I finally retired mine i7-980x as well with an Asus Rampage III Formula mobo. Thanks for doing what you do, Greg!
Greg, it's thanks to you and this series that i finally mustered the courage to build my first pc. It was a great success. Thanks a lot and keep inspiring people.
I kept thinking the whole time "Wouldn't it be kind of funny if the PC is fine & it's just his little test monitor decided to die?" Lol
Yeah LGA 1366 and weird socket issues comes with the platform, glad to see the rig lives
I had that cooler for my first build and I got flashbacks to the pain of installing it. I had larger heatsinks on the VRMs around the socket too so getting that top right corner screw tightened was not a simple task. The temperatures were great though (25C on a i5 6600K at idle and 60 under load with it OC'd to 4.8Ghz) and it's still chugging along in my nephew's PC.
complacency is the bane of constant victory in life. still enjoy your videos. keep up the good work.
6:43 I have that exact same case. I LOVE IT.
Entertaining. A great start of the year! Here's hoping 2024 will be amazing!
Funniest sentence of 2024 so far at 14:07 - "...offroad driving simulator, this is Dirt 5" xD
One stop solution for every PC related issue = Greg Salazar.
Also, greg looks awesome in short boxed beard 😎
I'm not gonna say you didn't accidentally bend that pin, but considering the installation clip looked fine, and the board was new, I'm gonna guess it was actually a factory mistake.
That R9 290 probably could use some new thermal paste.
Also, how did this hardware config compare to other submissions with the same hardware. I find that statistic more interesting than the comparison against all other entries, because naturally newer hardware will eventually always be faster. But comparing your R9 290 results to those submitted 10 years ago, might be telling. New drivers might have gained speed or microcode updates have slowed things down.
I wonder if maybe the cooler was just over-torqued. crazy the difference a milimeter or two can make.
10:44 “Full Beans” has entered the common vernacular. Jeff Arcuri should be proud
I’ve been looking forward to this video since I watched the build.
Great to see it all working, running a x79 Sabertooth myself and its has been a fantastic board.
Owning up to your own mistakes and correcting things is very cool!
that cooler looks sick, wonder if you can replace the fan with ARGB fans? would be cool for a themed build wit all synced light
Fun video. Actually a blast from the past. I built an X58 system back in 2010 with a six core Zeon. 24 gigs of RAM like yours. It's still running today.
Greg! This series has helped me feel waaay more comfortable with my PC. I can swap out parts, flash bios, and even do some basic diagnosis and TB. I wasn't helpless before but I certainly didn't have the confidence I do now. I really appreciate and enjoy this series for the entertainment and education. I hope you continue into season 5. Ill be there. Cheers buddy and thank you for all the vids!
you could flash that bios using a usb adapter kit. A little bit of a hassle but can be done easier than finding an older CPU
Bring back memories, this platform was known for memory issues had an Asus P6T that had a bad memory slot and would not post with 6 Gb of ram bought an Intel DX58SO2 and that very ram would not post on the Intel board. What worked in the end was dual channel corsair vengeance I borrowed from a friend.
WOW! That pin looked just a tiny bit out? CRAZY! Great video and thank you!!!
this was one of the most satisfying fix or flops, not only because of the problem and issue, but because of the age of the components and the fact u built it for yourself. great episode
Glad you were able to get it working. The pin might have been bent before you touched it, maybe it's why the original owner didn't complete the build? I can't imagine an experienced builder like you would just jam the CPU in there and not be careful.
Also I had a R9 290 and this is the default behavior, it jumps to 94c and then tries to cool it. It could do with a repaste and maybe undervolting to calm it down, I think many people just gave up on it and installed a 3rd party cooler. One other thing you can try is to flash a R9 290X bios, because some of the early reference models did unlock into the higher model.
With my bad eyesight, I would've never figured this one out. LOL. God bless you and the family.
I am in the same boat. I always build my PCs by myself. Currently I am on AM4 and when the time comes to upgrade to anything LGA, I will be quite nervous.
The pin could of also been bent way before you got your hand on it. Factory does mistakes as well....
Hilariously I still run an X58 rig for my Hackintosh music recording setup. Still runs fine. Guess I will have to keep how delicate the socket is in mind.
Well we can say with 100% certainty that you "Fixed your Flop"!! Still love this series and I would not think of missing even one!!!!
Greg doesn't hide his mistakes...Greg puts them out there on display and owns up to them...Greg has good integrity...be like Greg.
Wow, didn't expect that. But maybe it actually was the pressure from the cooler and not the bent pin?
Dangit, was hoping to catch this video alot earlier, but my workplace had a surprise overtime xD
Looking forward to see how this pc is fixed :D
Wow, I’ve never bent a pin in socket either.. but I suppose it can happen.. nice job!
The very first time I went to install an LGA CPU I was holding it by the edges of the IHS and dropped it corner first right into the socket! Needless to say that motherboard never worked again...I was so embarrassed because i'm always very careful with my hardware! We learn from our mistakes though, and just try to remember to be more careful next time...
Clearly this "viewer" hasn't watched enough of Fix or Flop🙃❤
Never rule out bit rot on older boards! the bios could actually be damaged, data cells can and do go bad every day
on Asus motherboards, the red light is a debug LED. The red light points to the issue. I had a Maximus IV Extreme for Sandy Bridge and Asus boards were the same back then and for X58.
Good video! At least you were able to get it fixed. I wonder if the pin was bent from the factory? Just a thought.
Greg love the content on fix or flop. I catch myself always saying “stay with me” in the beginning of all your videos. It’s Cathy af.
This just proves your human. I was beginning to think Greg was a Cylon hybrid. Hey, that's a BSG ddr3 time frame j/k.
G'day Greg,
🎉🥳Happy New Year to the Salazar Family, Hank & all the viewers,
WOOHOO! been waiting for part 2 with this build & made me happy to see it was a fixable problem,
it also ended up being a great promotion for a test build & POST before installing in the case
From all the 1366 pins you could have damaged, it had to be one that prevented the PC to boot...
I had X58 mobos boot with 4 bent or missing pins! The worst that ever happened to me was to loose a DDR channel.
Really nice job on diagnosing and fixing this, I wish I could say I haven't had a similar problem before.... The DRAM LED being on however isn't normal like you stated in the video, it should extinguish after the self check passes, which it did after the issue was resolved, just a technicality.
Normal as in "It was supposed to be on during that part of the boot process."
@@GregSalazar ahh in that case, ignore me! Either way I'm glad to see this old beast up and running
I bet this channel will break the million sub mark this year.
Those Asus Sabertooth boards were great. I went with the 990 FX R.2 for my FX 8320 and it was rock solid. I had it since they were new and when I finally upgraded to the Ryzen platform, I handed it down to a friend’s kid., last time I talked to him, it was still running.
I'm still running on an FX 8350 with 16GB DDR 3 and an RX570. It's surprisingly capable for such an old system. People often think they need a lot more computer than they do.
Wild Wild Westmere = an almost enthusiast exclusive architecture which, in similar fashion to Nehalem, premiered on the high end desktop. Then came Sandy Bridge.since when mainstreamers have had all the fun first...or beyond cascade lake...had all the fun full stop...
Greg, I really enjoy watching you troubleshoot these systems. I look forward to next season. Have a great new year!
Another great video, but how did you not scream when it worked, lol, more please
NZXT used to make an adapter to fit an asetek style aio on a graphics card - that r7 290 would be a good candidate for one of those.
I had the same cooler on my build, had the same issues and eventually did exacly the same as you. But when I reinstalled, it was not posting once again... I changed coolers and havent had any issues since..
I think it more of a clamp down pressure issue type of thing, not so much bad CPU install.
So no one is immune to this, even Greg. Now I'm even more scared of repasting my CPU
"Fixing my broken PC?" as a title also works, at least i think it does.
That's a good lookin' throwback rig right there.
I wonder how fair this was to Antek, in all honesty. The first video was supposed to be a representation of the case which you gave decent credit to. That being in the first half, during the 2nd half of that video the overall tone of the video was cut and lacked any positivity. Not because of the case, but because of unrelated issues. Almost overshadowing the actual review of the case.
Haven’t watched yet but I think this guy deserves a huge upgrade! Thanks cooler master!
the Socket forgives you
for all the hard work that you do
Seems like the cooler is overkill for that CPU. Really appreciate your tutorials on how to diagnose pc issues. Safe and healthy New Year!
not really could have been used in conjunction with running an OC as many did in the past you simply want as much temp overhead as you can get
1 bent pin! Great work finding the problem.
This was episode 4-20. Guess you were blazed when you built this and caused the damage lol😂😂
That pin being bent like that, and with its location, I doubt you sabotaged it. my bet is it came like that, and its easy enough to miss at a quick inspection. after all its not something you would be looking for on a new or well taken care of board.
Seeing Greg put a X58 build together, I may do the same with my Asus P6X58D-E & Xeon X5675 & HD 7970 :)
my brother has the same board and cpu it had damaged pins out of the box .... wouldn't post or if it did wouldn't detect all the ram ended up just being bent pins
It’s amazing how quiet and efficient GPUs are now specially with the newer RTX cards. That Radeon card was way too loud.
This is why you do a dry run, making sure you get a bios post before building in a case. Kids learn from his mistakes lol
thanks for another very eye
opening video, this only shows that it doesn't matter how many build or fix you have done, 1 simple mistake will really mess things up, so in every steps take extra care. :)
LGA sockets strike again! Glad you were able to find the cause!
YOOOOO GREG!!!! Love the vids brotha! I don't miss a single one! Keep it up!
law of averages, fitting as many cpu's as you have over the years there is always going to be one that goes wrong like this. great video.
my very first build that I did on my own was an i7 9700 and I didnt know anything about PCs. So I tried to shove the cpu into the slot and didnt know that I was bending the pins. I sent the mobo back and they said that it was damaged. they sent me an email about the bent pins and thank goodness the board was only $60. ended up buying another mobo and finally watched your youtube on how to properly do a build. rest is history. LOL
It's amazing to me how a CPU designed and built in 2010, with an SSD and enough RAM, can still be usable almost 14 years later. By comparison, a high-end gaming PC built in the late 1990's/early 2000's couldn't be compared to a system like this using the same difference in time, as it wouldn't be able to play any games or use the internet like this one can, even today.
Hah... That R9 290 brings back memories of my R7 250 that soldiered for YEARS in my AM3/AM3+ rig.
Nice one Greg, you got there in the end. Good to see you working with an older system - I spend more time working in old systems than new so it all feels kinda familiar 🙂