Greg, I must admit that for the past couple years ive really gotten into PC gaming and building from watching fix or flop, pcdc and gcdc. Also some of the only flops which was hilarious. Can't get enough of these videos. They have taught me everything I know about PC building. Built my own and my friends in 2023.
the x58 plat form is probably my all time favorite ..its what i really learned the nuts n bolts of Overclocking & building a custom water loops water cooled 560ti Then Titans started with the 920 as most did then went to the 980 oc to 4.2ghz i think wd raptors n Raid 0..just a lot o fun for me back n the day !
I am not convinced this one was on you Greg. I have had boards come with slightly bent pins in the past, it’s rare, but it can happen. Judging by the video of you installing the CPU, it really doesn’t look like you did anything wrong. It’s entirely possible that one pin was just a little off from the factory, I am not 100% convinced this was on you.
I wonder if this is a case of some kind of manufacturing issue that only became apparent years later, where the pin was making contact but just barely.
I agree with this. It's hard to bend one pin just like that. I didn't see anything out of the ordinary with the slow motion replay Greg put it the video. I've heard countless stories of Asus, MSI, and Gigabyte fighting with customers over bent pins.
Hey so I had a question for everyone in this community. I've watched Greg's videos and I've seen a fair share of both AMD and Intel processors. I'm in the middle of finding parts so I can be building my first gaming computer. I had a friend who really likes Intel, but other friends I talk to and when I went on reddit says that is not such the best idea for a full gaming PC longterm. My friend who likes Intel more says he knows someone who has to switch out their AMD processor frequently, not sure anymore details regarding that though. Below I'll post what sort of experience I want to have with the PC and what games I do play and have played in the past. Just wanting to get more opinions!!!! Games I play are some indie games, like Hollow Knight, Risk of Rain, Don't Starve Together, Enter the Gungeon, Undertale, Stardew, etc. Some a little more extensive than others. I also play the FPS Valorant & Fortnite. Some other games I've played is like Borderlands, Life is Strange, Conan Exiles, Rust, & Batman Arkham series. I have streamed before on my laptop and want to continue some, but not like super consistent. I do want to play a few games while streaming, not necessarily everything, but some things like Valorant, the indie games , etc.. Also, when streaming, or gaming in general not necessarily looking for top of the line, performance on the game either, but I do want to get a pretty decent rig as much as I can get with my budget.
Even the most experienced of us, still make mistakes. Full respect for holding your hands up and admitting that. I must admit I do enjoy the throwback builds, how older hardware stands up with today’s games. During 2020 I built a sleeper build in an old 19 year old case with an i7 4790, Asus CS-B coupled with an RX470 GPU.. still holds up.
i need to step into this greg, back in the day it was pretty normal, that LGA sockets were messed up from the factory, so this is something you could run into even if you dont do anything wrong here.
Don't worry LGA1366 pins bend even if you breathe on them too hard 🤣 I've fixed loads and had to throw away loads of boards that have ended up my way with socket damage.
When you said everything seemed to be working fine but the PC wasn't sending images to the monitor, it gave me flashbacks of the saga that was upgrading my GPU in December. I bought a Gigabyte RX 7600 8GB OC model on Black Friday, but it wouldn't show any images. I imagined the problem was lack of power, since my PSU was a 500W and the recommendation was 550W, so I traded in my old PSU with my RX 560 to get a discount on a 750W PSU. After installing it, the GPU showed the same symptoms, refusing to even get detected by windows (but the metal plate would still get hot, so it was receiving power). Its fans weren't spinning, but it's a model that doesn't spin the fans until it needs to, so I thought the problem was on the BIOS. I followed the instructions perfectly, downloaded the latest AMD chipset driver that was on the Gigabyte website (motherboard is also Gigabyte, coincidently), updated my BIOS to version f31 (if memory serves) before doing any further updates as per instructions, but when I tried to update further there was an issue with the installation and corrupted the BIOS. I sent the PC to a trustworthy business where I live, have been their client for over 20 years, and asked them to recover the BIOS (my MOBO has double BIOS in case the main one gets messed up, so you can fix it, but this update made it so that the MOBO wouldn't post even on the backup BIOS) and make the GPU run. They couldn't recover the BIOS and it turns out the problem was the GPU - it wouldn't display images on any of the other three PCs they tested. So now I had a brand new PSU, a dead motherboard and a dead brand new GPU. Since I work from home and my gaming PC is my work PC, I had to buy a new MOBO with all the USB ports I needed, and the only one I could find to be delivered in less than a week was the Gigabyte Aorus Elite V2. Ende dup buying it, had the repair shop install it for me because I didn't have thermal paste and didn't want to risk breaking the CPU in the process given how well things were playing out for me last month. Luckily my CPU is a Ryzen 5 2400G, so I could use the integrated graphics to display image and go back to work, though I could only play very light games in the meantime and was down one monitor. Then I begun the RMA process for the GPU. I don't know if this is the same for every part of the world, but the process in Brazil is too bureaucratic, with various redundancies and I had the misfortune of being paired with a guy that just didn't want to give any more than the barest of the minimum of information and ignored my e-mails when I asked for more details. I somehow managed to get through their service, and from there it was smooth sailing on that part, but then I had to send the package through Brazil's mail service - Correios! If you Americans think FEDEX is bad, I laugh at your face! Finally, a whole 31 days after I received my GPU in November, I finally had it back and working! But goddammit, I spent far too much on this stupid upgrade when I didn't have to, ended up making one upgrade I was trying to get away with not needing to and one that was 100% unexpected, had all this down time without my computer unable to work, and when I had it back I still had to refrain from gaming because I had to recuperate my time lost not working and because the games I wanted to play just weren't going to run on the poor 2400G's GPU. The GPU is working flawlessly now and the LED Logo paired with the AORUS LED on the motherboard do look great, but my wallet is crying on an empty stomach on the corner of my house now.
I helped my son rebuild his gaming rig over the holidays and we replaced the MB, RAM, new CPU, added 4 M.2 drives, new CPU cooler, and a new case. Once done, it booted right up and he has been playing it ever since. He was so surprised when it booted the first time after the rebuild, thanks Greg.
You might not have damaged that socket when putting the cpu in. The age of the board would have made all the pins more delicate and could have shifted in transit. Glad you managed to get it working.
Happy New Year Greg! I know it hurts, but try not to stress on the CPU mistake. Even the most experienced PC builder still make simple mistakes. Cheers! 🍻
Thank you so much Greg for these videos. I love watching them. I just upgraded my power supply from a 750w to a 1300w and my graphics card from a RTX 2070 to a RTX 4070. Turned it on annnnd no picture out. Didnt panic, cleared cmos, no change. Took out ram, put ram back in, and she booted. Before getting hooked on your videos I would have been panicing having spent nearly $800 on those upgrades. Thank you again for these videos. ❤
my brother has the same board and cpu it had damaged pins out of the box .... wouldn't post or if it did wouldn't detect all the ram ended up just being bent pins
Greg, it's thanks to you and this series that i finally mustered the courage to build my first pc. It was a great success. Thanks a lot and keep inspiring people.
this was one of the most satisfying fix or flops, not only because of the problem and issue, but because of the age of the components and the fact u built it for yourself. great episode
Greg! This series has helped me feel waaay more comfortable with my PC. I can swap out parts, flash bios, and even do some basic diagnosis and TB. I wasn't helpless before but I certainly didn't have the confidence I do now. I really appreciate and enjoy this series for the entertainment and education. I hope you continue into season 5. Ill be there. Cheers buddy and thank you for all the vids!
3:53 Try Reseating the Ram and make sure the clips are closing fully after turning off power of course, next I would try the on board video using an adapter to fit your monitors cable, CMOS is always good to change battery.
Good work there i had this platform until middle 2023 when decided to finally update after building it on 2011 as my first pc with my first job as data analyst running solid all those years until it started having compatibility issues in games. Still have it stored for a possible arcade machine as it was running smooth yet after 12 years
Fun video. Actually a blast from the past. I built an X58 system back in 2010 with a six core Zeon. 24 gigs of RAM like yours. It's still running today.
thanks for another very eye opening video, this only shows that it doesn't matter how many build or fix you have done, 1 simple mistake will really mess things up, so in every steps take extra care. :)
No Sweat Greg, I remember not taking the CMOS Battery out and the system did nothing,.. reading the manual and finding out that different clock settings killed the cpu oops but learned can't wait till Season 5 enjoy the show Enjoy.... your build!!!!!
G'day Greg, 🎉🥳Happy New Year to the Salazar Family, Hank & all the viewers, WOOHOO! been waiting for part 2 with this build & made me happy to see it was a fixable problem, it also ended up being a great promotion for a test build & POST before installing in the case
I love your honesty always and although I didn't expect you to manage this as last of 4th season after new year it was as entertaining and educational as always 👍
Nice one Greg, you got there in the end. Good to see you working with an older system - I spend more time working in old systems than new so it all feels kinda familiar 🙂
I had that cooler for my first build and I got flashbacks to the pain of installing it. I had larger heatsinks on the VRMs around the socket too so getting that top right corner screw tightened was not a simple task. The temperatures were great though (25C on a i5 6600K at idle and 60 under load with it OC'd to 4.8Ghz) and it's still chugging along in my nephew's PC.
That R9 290 probably could use some new thermal paste. Also, how did this hardware config compare to other submissions with the same hardware. I find that statistic more interesting than the comparison against all other entries, because naturally newer hardware will eventually always be faster. But comparing your R9 290 results to those submitted 10 years ago, might be telling. New drivers might have gained speed or microcode updates have slowed things down.
Thanks Greg for this format. I can´t await season five of it, hoping that it gets to Season 500 :) Keep on your great content. I really enjoy wathing all of your stuff.
Bring back memories, this platform was known for memory issues had an Asus P6T that had a bad memory slot and would not post with 6 Gb of ram bought an Intel DX58SO2 and that very ram would not post on the Intel board. What worked in the end was dual channel corsair vengeance I borrowed from a friend.
Glad you were able to get it working. The pin might have been bent before you touched it, maybe it's why the original owner didn't complete the build? I can't imagine an experienced builder like you would just jam the CPU in there and not be careful. Also I had a R9 290 and this is the default behavior, it jumps to 94c and then tries to cool it. It could do with a repaste and maybe undervolting to calm it down, I think many people just gave up on it and installed a 3rd party cooler. One other thing you can try is to flash a R9 290X bios, because some of the early reference models did unlock into the higher model.
on Asus motherboards, the red light is a debug LED. The red light points to the issue. I had a Maximus IV Extreme for Sandy Bridge and Asus boards were the same back then and for X58.
A friend asked me to deep clean his system and just take a look over everything. Nothing was wrong with the system and it was working as normal before I took it apart. I stripped everything down to the screws, cleaned everything, reapplied thermal paste, pretty simple build, Ryzen 5 3600 with an RX 580, 2 stick of ram, not a glimpse of RGB, and it does not turn on, nada. After I waster 4 hours of my life trying to get the system to turn on, I took out the CPU and found a micron spec of thermal paste in the socket of the motherboard. Removed it with a sewing needle, system posted. Safe to say I was more than frustrated as I have taken down and put back together systems more times than I can count and that was for sure a first...
I've been waiting to see what happened to this rig. I know my Asus P6T needed a BIOS update for some higher end processors. But I had a i7 930 at the time, so it wasn't a problem then. When I upgraded to the Xeon X5690 much later, I was surprised that it took the new processor and didn't reset my previous overclock. Fun times seeing that Xeon clocking 4.6ghz right out of the box. lol
Wild Wild Westmere = an almost enthusiast exclusive architecture which, in similar fashion to Nehalem, premiered on the high end desktop. Then came Sandy Bridge.since when mainstreamers have had all the fun first...or beyond cascade lake...had all the fun full stop...
I had the same cooler on my build, had the same issues and eventually did exacly the same as you. But when I reinstalled, it was not posting once again... I changed coolers and havent had any issues since.. I think it more of a clamp down pressure issue type of thing, not so much bad CPU install.
That pin being bent like that, and with its location, I doubt you sabotaged it. my bet is it came like that, and its easy enough to miss at a quick inspection. after all its not something you would be looking for on a new or well taken care of board.
I am in the same boat. I always build my PCs by myself. Currently I am on AM4 and when the time comes to upgrade to anything LGA, I will be quite nervous.
Really nice job on diagnosing and fixing this, I wish I could say I haven't had a similar problem before.... The DRAM LED being on however isn't normal like you stated in the video, it should extinguish after the self check passes, which it did after the issue was resolved, just a technicality.
I'm not gonna say you didn't accidentally bend that pin, but considering the installation clip looked fine, and the board was new, I'm gonna guess it was actually a factory mistake.
I'm still running on an FX 8350 with 16GB DDR 3 and an RX570. It's surprisingly capable for such an old system. People often think they need a lot more computer than they do.
The very first time I went to install an LGA CPU I was holding it by the edges of the IHS and dropped it corner first right into the socket! Needless to say that motherboard never worked again...I was so embarrassed because i'm always very careful with my hardware! We learn from our mistakes though, and just try to remember to be more careful next time...
Those Asus Sabertooth boards were great. I went with the 990 FX R.2 for my FX 8320 and it was rock solid. I had it since they were new and when I finally upgraded to the Ryzen platform, I handed it down to a friend’s kid., last time I talked to him, it was still running.
From all the 1366 pins you could have damaged, it had to be one that prevented the PC to boot... I had X58 mobos boot with 4 bent or missing pins! The worst that ever happened to me was to loose a DDR channel.
No surprise to me; been working in IT on and off for past fifty years and I usually have the more serious issues but also quite simple fixes with my own machines. I'd equate it o using power tools on a regular basis; you get over confident/comfortable with your abilities and then mistakes (inattention) occur and injuries happen.
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At least you didn't have to drive pretty far to get this guy's PC.
Are you sure about that? I heard Florida traffic is the worst… 😳🤨🤔😬🤭
Greg, I must admit that for the past couple years ive really gotten into PC gaming and building from watching fix or flop, pcdc and gcdc. Also some of the only flops which was hilarious. Can't get enough of these videos. They have taught me everything I know about PC building. Built my own and my friends in 2023.
That's awesome. Thanks for the support, Andy!
I have learned so much over the past couple years from Greg and now understand so much about building and repairing my family thinks I’m an IT lol 😂
the x58 plat form is probably my all time favorite ..its what i really learned the nuts n bolts of Overclocking & building a custom water loops water cooled 560ti Then Titans started with the 920 as most did then went to the 980 oc to 4.2ghz i think wd raptors n Raid 0..just a lot o fun for me back n the day !
I am not convinced this one was on you Greg. I have had boards come with slightly bent pins in the past, it’s rare, but it can happen. Judging by the video of you installing the CPU, it really doesn’t look like you did anything wrong. It’s entirely possible that one pin was just a little off from the factory, I am not 100% convinced this was on you.
I wonder if this is a case of some kind of manufacturing issue that only became apparent years later, where the pin was making contact but just barely.
Me too.
It really didn't look like you did anything wrong during the CPU install to me.
The cpu install looked good to me too.
I thought the same when I saw the video. There is no way he bent a pin installing that CPU.
I agree with this. It's hard to bend one pin just like that. I didn't see anything out of the ordinary with the slow motion replay Greg put it the video.
I've heard countless stories of Asus, MSI, and Gigabyte fighting with customers over bent pins.
Hey so I had a question for everyone in this community. I've watched Greg's videos and I've seen a fair share of both AMD and Intel processors. I'm in the middle of finding parts so I can be building my first gaming computer. I had a friend who really likes Intel, but other friends I talk to and when I went on reddit says that is not such the best idea for a full gaming PC longterm. My friend who likes Intel more says he knows someone who has to switch out their AMD processor frequently, not sure anymore details regarding that though. Below I'll post what sort of experience I want to have with the PC and what games I do play and have played in the past. Just wanting to get more opinions!!!!
Games I play are some indie games, like Hollow Knight, Risk of Rain, Don't Starve Together, Enter the Gungeon, Undertale, Stardew, etc. Some a little more extensive than others. I also play the FPS Valorant & Fortnite. Some other games I've played is like Borderlands, Life is Strange, Conan Exiles, Rust, & Batman Arkham series. I have streamed before on my laptop and want to continue some, but not like super consistent. I do want to play a few games while streaming, not necessarily everything, but some things like Valorant, the indie games , etc.. Also, when streaming, or gaming in general not necessarily looking for top of the line, performance on the game either, but I do want to get a pretty decent rig as much as I can get with my budget.
Even the most experienced of us, still make mistakes. Full respect for holding your hands up and admitting that.
I must admit I do enjoy the throwback builds, how older hardware stands up with today’s games.
During 2020 I built a sleeper build in an old 19 year old case with an i7 4790, Asus CS-B coupled with an RX470 GPU.. still holds up.
The pin could of also been bent way before you got your hand on it. Factory does mistakes as well....
I wonder if maybe the cooler was just over-torqued. crazy the difference a milimeter or two can make.
i need to step into this greg, back in the day it was pretty normal, that LGA sockets were messed up from the factory, so this is something you could run into even if you dont do anything wrong here.
Don't worry LGA1366 pins bend even if you breathe on them too hard 🤣 I've fixed loads and had to throw away loads of boards that have ended up my way with socket damage.
When you said everything seemed to be working fine but the PC wasn't sending images to the monitor, it gave me flashbacks of the saga that was upgrading my GPU in December.
I bought a Gigabyte RX 7600 8GB OC model on Black Friday, but it wouldn't show any images. I imagined the problem was lack of power, since my PSU was a 500W and the recommendation was 550W, so I traded in my old PSU with my RX 560 to get a discount on a 750W PSU.
After installing it, the GPU showed the same symptoms, refusing to even get detected by windows (but the metal plate would still get hot, so it was receiving power). Its fans weren't spinning, but it's a model that doesn't spin the fans until it needs to, so I thought the problem was on the BIOS. I followed the instructions perfectly, downloaded the latest AMD chipset driver that was on the Gigabyte website (motherboard is also Gigabyte, coincidently), updated my BIOS to version f31 (if memory serves) before doing any further updates as per instructions, but when I tried to update further there was an issue with the installation and corrupted the BIOS.
I sent the PC to a trustworthy business where I live, have been their client for over 20 years, and asked them to recover the BIOS (my MOBO has double BIOS in case the main one gets messed up, so you can fix it, but this update made it so that the MOBO wouldn't post even on the backup BIOS) and make the GPU run. They couldn't recover the BIOS and it turns out the problem was the GPU - it wouldn't display images on any of the other three PCs they tested.
So now I had a brand new PSU, a dead motherboard and a dead brand new GPU. Since I work from home and my gaming PC is my work PC, I had to buy a new MOBO with all the USB ports I needed, and the only one I could find to be delivered in less than a week was the Gigabyte Aorus Elite V2. Ende dup buying it, had the repair shop install it for me because I didn't have thermal paste and didn't want to risk breaking the CPU in the process given how well things were playing out for me last month. Luckily my CPU is a Ryzen 5 2400G, so I could use the integrated graphics to display image and go back to work, though I could only play very light games in the meantime and was down one monitor.
Then I begun the RMA process for the GPU. I don't know if this is the same for every part of the world, but the process in Brazil is too bureaucratic, with various redundancies and I had the misfortune of being paired with a guy that just didn't want to give any more than the barest of the minimum of information and ignored my e-mails when I asked for more details. I somehow managed to get through their service, and from there it was smooth sailing on that part, but then I had to send the package through Brazil's mail service - Correios! If you Americans think FEDEX is bad, I laugh at your face!
Finally, a whole 31 days after I received my GPU in November, I finally had it back and working! But goddammit, I spent far too much on this stupid upgrade when I didn't have to, ended up making one upgrade I was trying to get away with not needing to and one that was 100% unexpected, had all this down time without my computer unable to work, and when I had it back I still had to refrain from gaming because I had to recuperate my time lost not working and because the games I wanted to play just weren't going to run on the poor 2400G's GPU. The GPU is working flawlessly now and the LED Logo paired with the AORUS LED on the motherboard do look great, but my wallet is crying on an empty stomach on the corner of my house now.
I helped my son rebuild his gaming rig over the holidays and we replaced the MB, RAM, new CPU, added 4 M.2 drives, new CPU cooler, and a new case. Once done, it booted right up and he has been playing it ever since. He was so surprised when it booted the first time after the rebuild, thanks Greg.
Cool story!
You might not have damaged that socket when putting the cpu in. The age of the board would have made all the pins more delicate and could have shifted in transit. Glad you managed to get it working.
It's crazy how something so minor can break everything. I love this show a lot. It keeps on my toes when I'm doing my own work.
Happy New Year Greg! I know it hurts, but try not to stress on the CPU mistake. Even the most experienced PC builder still make simple mistakes. Cheers! 🍻
Thank you so much Greg for these videos. I love watching them. I just upgraded my power supply from a 750w to a 1300w and my graphics card from a RTX 2070 to a RTX 4070. Turned it on annnnd no picture out. Didnt panic, cleared cmos, no change. Took out ram, put ram back in, and she booted. Before getting hooked on your videos I would have been panicing having spent nearly $800 on those upgrades. Thank you again for these videos. ❤
Good one Greg well done i did think it was a CPU problem at the start
Is it a coincidence that your PC happens to be season 4 episode 20? I definitely laughed about it :D
Read this as I'm about to fire up the torch.....
Great to see proof of 'be careful when placing the CPU into the socket'.
Also great to see that you could fix it. Keep up the great videos.
my brother has the same board and cpu it had damaged pins out of the box .... wouldn't post or if it did wouldn't detect all the ram ended up just being bent pins
Looks on your face when its boot up is priceless ,great to see this nostalgia up and runing💙
Love you videos keep up the great work man building my first pc this Monday
You can do it!
It’s very easy. I’ve rebuilt my computer twice now.
Finished building it a week ago amazing performance got 7600f and 6800 xt asus tuf it's a beast
Greg, it's thanks to you and this series that i finally mustered the courage to build my first pc. It was a great success. Thanks a lot and keep inspiring people.
this was one of the most satisfying fix or flops, not only because of the problem and issue, but because of the age of the components and the fact u built it for yourself. great episode
Here so early the PC is still broken
Great to see it all working, running a x79 Sabertooth myself and its has been a fantastic board.
The first thing I noticed was how clean for an old pc that was, bravo to the owner.
The amount of times I've had a PC issue and fixed it because I remembered seeing it in fix or flop, you really are doing the Lords work! 🙏❤
Greg! This series has helped me feel waaay more comfortable with my PC. I can swap out parts, flash bios, and even do some basic diagnosis and TB. I wasn't helpless before but I certainly didn't have the confidence I do now. I really appreciate and enjoy this series for the entertainment and education. I hope you continue into season 5. Ill be there. Cheers buddy and thank you for all the vids!
WOW! That pin looked just a tiny bit out? CRAZY! Great video and thank you!!!
3:53 Try Reseating the Ram and make sure the clips are closing fully after turning off power of course, next I would try the on board video using an adapter to fit your monitors cable, CMOS is always good to change battery.
Good work there i had this platform until middle 2023 when decided to finally update after building it on 2011 as my first pc with my first job as data analyst running solid all those years until it started having compatibility issues in games. Still have it stored for a possible arcade machine as it was running smooth yet after 12 years
Fun video. Actually a blast from the past. I built an X58 system back in 2010 with a six core Zeon. 24 gigs of RAM like yours. It's still running today.
Yeah LGA 1366 and weird socket issues comes with the platform, glad to see the rig lives
Did miss the return to owner video, to see how happy he was, though I suppose your grin towards the end says it all.
Greg doesn't hide his mistakes...Greg puts them out there on display and owns up to them...Greg has good integrity...be like Greg.
thanks for another very eye
opening video, this only shows that it doesn't matter how many build or fix you have done, 1 simple mistake will really mess things up, so in every steps take extra care. :)
complacency is the bane of constant victory in life. still enjoy your videos. keep up the good work.
No Sweat Greg, I remember not taking the CMOS Battery out and the system did nothing,.. reading the manual and finding out that different clock settings killed the cpu oops but learned
can't wait till Season 5 enjoy the show Enjoy.... your build!!!!!
Entertaining. A great start of the year! Here's hoping 2024 will be amazing!
Haven’t watched yet but I think this guy deserves a huge upgrade! Thanks cooler master!
G'day Greg,
🎉🥳Happy New Year to the Salazar Family, Hank & all the viewers,
WOOHOO! been waiting for part 2 with this build & made me happy to see it was a fixable problem,
it also ended up being a great promotion for a test build & POST before installing in the case
I love your honesty always and although I didn't expect you to manage this as last of 4th season after new year it was as entertaining and educational as always 👍
I've just finished rebuilding my old PC into a new case. Got the final part, the SSD, today and installed Zorin OS 😁
Newb! J/k lol Looks like you recorded this one back in the summer, from the weather bar that says 89 degrees
Owning up to your own mistakes and correcting things is very cool!
Ahh the x58 triple channel setup. I finally retired mine i7-980x as well with an Asus Rampage III Formula mobo. Thanks for doing what you do, Greg!
Thanks so much for fixing this guy's PC. You're doing God's work.
Greg, I really enjoy watching you troubleshoot these systems. I look forward to next season. Have a great new year!
Nice one Greg, you got there in the end. Good to see you working with an older system - I spend more time working in old systems than new so it all feels kinda familiar 🙂
I’ve been looking forward to this video since I watched the build.
6:43 I have that exact same case. I LOVE IT.
I had that cooler for my first build and I got flashbacks to the pain of installing it. I had larger heatsinks on the VRMs around the socket too so getting that top right corner screw tightened was not a simple task. The temperatures were great though (25C on a i5 6600K at idle and 60 under load with it OC'd to 4.8Ghz) and it's still chugging along in my nephew's PC.
That R9 290 probably could use some new thermal paste.
Also, how did this hardware config compare to other submissions with the same hardware. I find that statistic more interesting than the comparison against all other entries, because naturally newer hardware will eventually always be faster. But comparing your R9 290 results to those submitted 10 years ago, might be telling. New drivers might have gained speed or microcode updates have slowed things down.
Thanks Greg for this format. I can´t await season five of it, hoping that it gets to Season 500 :) Keep on your great content. I really enjoy wathing all of your stuff.
Seems like the cooler is overkill for that CPU. Really appreciate your tutorials on how to diagnose pc issues. Safe and healthy New Year!
not really could have been used in conjunction with running an OC as many did in the past you simply want as much temp overhead as you can get
Yea definitely love the fix or flop series, keep up the great work.
Great video Greg, love this old PC hardware. I still have a working R9 290 in a 4th gen Intel rig, it was a great card. Keep up the great work.
Bring back memories, this platform was known for memory issues had an Asus P6T that had a bad memory slot and would not post with 6 Gb of ram bought an Intel DX58SO2 and that very ram would not post on the Intel board. What worked in the end was dual channel corsair vengeance I borrowed from a friend.
A Happy New Year with a happy ending!
🎉🎊👏 Never would have guessed a bent pin.
you could flash that bios using a usb adapter kit. A little bit of a hassle but can be done easier than finding an older CPU
Good video! At least you were able to get it fixed. I wonder if the pin was bent from the factory? Just a thought.
LGA sockets strike again! Glad you were able to find the cause!
Never rule out bit rot on older boards! the bios could actually be damaged, data cells can and do go bad every day
both entertaining and educating, amazing
Well we can say with 100% certainty that you "Fixed your Flop"!! Still love this series and I would not think of missing even one!!!!
These vids give me the confidence to work on my own build. 😊
Wow, didn't expect that. But maybe it actually was the pressure from the cooler and not the bent pin?
Great video. It's ok Greg - we all have our times when soemthing doesn't go right. Thanks for doing these great videos.
Glad you were able to get it working. The pin might have been bent before you touched it, maybe it's why the original owner didn't complete the build? I can't imagine an experienced builder like you would just jam the CPU in there and not be careful.
Also I had a R9 290 and this is the default behavior, it jumps to 94c and then tries to cool it. It could do with a repaste and maybe undervolting to calm it down, I think many people just gave up on it and installed a 3rd party cooler. One other thing you can try is to flash a R9 290X bios, because some of the early reference models did unlock into the higher model.
on Asus motherboards, the red light is a debug LED. The red light points to the issue. I had a Maximus IV Extreme for Sandy Bridge and Asus boards were the same back then and for X58.
Great video Greg. I always learn a lot from this series, it's a great entertaining educational experience!
YOOOOO GREG!!!! Love the vids brotha! I don't miss a single one! Keep it up!
that cooler looks sick, wonder if you can replace the fan with ARGB fans? would be cool for a themed build wit all synced light
A friend asked me to deep clean his system and just take a look over everything.
Nothing was wrong with the system and it was working as normal before I took it apart.
I stripped everything down to the screws, cleaned everything, reapplied thermal paste, pretty simple build, Ryzen 5 3600 with an RX 580, 2 stick of ram, not a glimpse of RGB, and it does not turn on, nada. After I waster 4 hours of my life trying to get the system to turn on, I took out the CPU and found a micron spec of thermal paste in the socket of the motherboard. Removed it with a sewing needle, system posted. Safe to say I was more than frustrated as I have taken down and put back together systems more times than I can count and that was for sure a first...
Greg love the content on fix or flop. I catch myself always saying “stay with me” in the beginning of all your videos. It’s Cathy af.
I've been waiting to see what happened to this rig. I know my Asus P6T needed a BIOS update for some higher end processors. But I had a i7 930 at the time, so it wasn't a problem then. When I upgraded to the Xeon X5690 much later, I was surprised that it took the new processor and didn't reset my previous overclock. Fun times seeing that Xeon clocking 4.6ghz right out of the box. lol
Wild Wild Westmere = an almost enthusiast exclusive architecture which, in similar fashion to Nehalem, premiered on the high end desktop. Then came Sandy Bridge.since when mainstreamers have had all the fun first...or beyond cascade lake...had all the fun full stop...
I had the same cooler on my build, had the same issues and eventually did exacly the same as you. But when I reinstalled, it was not posting once again... I changed coolers and havent had any issues since..
I think it more of a clamp down pressure issue type of thing, not so much bad CPU install.
Been waiting on this one x58 was one of my all time fav platform
Wow, I’ve never bent a pin in socket either.. but I suppose it can happen.. nice job!
That pin being bent like that, and with its location, I doubt you sabotaged it. my bet is it came like that, and its easy enough to miss at a quick inspection. after all its not something you would be looking for on a new or well taken care of board.
With my bad eyesight, I would've never figured this one out. LOL. God bless you and the family.
I am in the same boat. I always build my PCs by myself. Currently I am on AM4 and when the time comes to upgrade to anything LGA, I will be quite nervous.
10:44 “Full Beans” has entered the common vernacular. Jeff Arcuri should be proud
Really nice job on diagnosing and fixing this, I wish I could say I haven't had a similar problem before.... The DRAM LED being on however isn't normal like you stated in the video, it should extinguish after the self check passes, which it did after the issue was resolved, just a technicality.
Normal as in "It was supposed to be on during that part of the boot process."
@@GregSalazar ahh in that case, ignore me! Either way I'm glad to see this old beast up and running
I bet this channel will break the million sub mark this year.
I'm not gonna say you didn't accidentally bend that pin, but considering the installation clip looked fine, and the board was new, I'm gonna guess it was actually a factory mistake.
I'm still running on an FX 8350 with 16GB DDR 3 and an RX570. It's surprisingly capable for such an old system. People often think they need a lot more computer than they do.
Clearly this "viewer" hasn't watched enough of Fix or Flop🙃❤
The very first time I went to install an LGA CPU I was holding it by the edges of the IHS and dropped it corner first right into the socket! Needless to say that motherboard never worked again...I was so embarrassed because i'm always very careful with my hardware! We learn from our mistakes though, and just try to remember to be more careful next time...
1 bent pin! Great work finding the problem.
This is basically my dream PC from a decade ago. At least the fix ended up being something as simple as a bent pin.
Those Asus Sabertooth boards were great. I went with the 990 FX R.2 for my FX 8320 and it was rock solid. I had it since they were new and when I finally upgraded to the Ryzen platform, I handed it down to a friend’s kid., last time I talked to him, it was still running.
Great series Greg! Most interesting on the platform. Keep em coming if you can😊
One stop solution for every PC related issue = Greg Salazar.
Also, greg looks awesome in short boxed beard 😎
The best series on youtube no doubt. Keep up the great work greg!
Happy new year Greg, wishing you good health for 2024. Take care.
It’s amazing how quiet and efficient GPUs are now specially with the newer RTX cards. That Radeon card was way too loud.
From all the 1366 pins you could have damaged, it had to be one that prevented the PC to boot...
I had X58 mobos boot with 4 bent or missing pins! The worst that ever happened to me was to loose a DDR channel.
No surprise to me; been working in IT on and off for past fifty years and I usually have the more serious issues but also quite simple fixes with my own machines. I'd equate it o using power tools on a regular basis; you get over confident/comfortable with your abilities and then mistakes (inattention) occur and injuries happen.