Cyberpunk 2077 - Johnny Silverhand Disses Morgan Blackhand
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Johnny Silverhand was a living legend who waged all-out war against all corporate influence. That said, he was hardly the only legend the 2020 era. Another - arguably more famous - NC legend Morgan Blackhand just didn't share the rockerboy's blinding hatred for all things corpo-powered. Instead, the Solo of Fortune took a different route. Selling his skills as the world's greatest mercenary and best solo to the Militech Corporation as a full-time "company man."
This seemed so minor that I wasn't sure I'd even upload it. Still, I already made the video, so I figured there's really no harm. It could be I'm just imagining things on my end, but I thought this moment was pure gold. If you're a fan of the original TTRPG books at all, you might have caught this little dig too. Never Fade Away takes place during Cyberpunk 2013. Johnny, Rogue, and Santiago have been in the Cyberpunk series since the beginning. As far as I know, Morgan Blackhand wasn't introduced until Cyberpunk 2020, and he took a very different route than the gang that raided Arasaka Tower.
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The main reason why Johnny disses Morgan was that he sold out to Militech... just as Smasher sold out to Arasaka.
If there's a trope anywhere about trying to embody pragmatism, Morgan Blackhand definitely fits that trope. Blackhand always did whatever works best and whatever benefits him regardless of hang-ups or illusions to those things.
He even laughs at the idea of Solos who walk around carrying huge guns and draw attention to themselves just to look cool in the books. Even though, ironically, almost every single drawing of Morgan Blackhand shows him dressed in the largest trench coat known to man and usually carrying a large gun.
@@EyeofCenter Well Morgan was known for his SMG built into I believe his left or Right arm... hence Blackhand. He usually carried another SMG and a Blade... as the RPG pen and paper goes. He was well versed in Stealth and Close Quarters. Again RPG paper. he could get in and out and his non ARM SMG was Silenced.
@@JuergenGDB Yeah. I remember Blackhand's character sheet from one of the 2020 books. I always thought those were very incomplete given what we know about these characters throughout the series, but Blackhand is basically the ultimate solo. Almost every skill related to combat and special ops styled missions was at least a +7.
Yep that’s why I don’t blame Johnny for dissing him, I would do the same
@@revivalofnutrient but you'd be wrong to, the man is a solo's solo, he brings in targets alive not because of some sense of morals or a no-kill rule but because he fucking can. He is the universes biggest badass and the one Johnny self inserts himself into the role of in his memories.
I don't think Johnny was dissing Blackhand. He and Blackhand were very close friends. Blackhand went apeshit when he saw what Smasher did to Johnny.
True. They were friends. But whether he intended to or not, he did end up deriding Blackhand - and every merc who joins a corporation. Off all the characters in the entire series, that statement most applies to Blackhand. He's the most famous for joining up with Militech and making a big name for himself (even more than characters like Boa Boa, I mean).
I personally always took this as more of a jab at just how easy it was to get guys like Shaitan, not as much of a diss on Blackhand considering he was already in on the op anyways. he didn't need extra convincing either way. Shaitan on the other hand was known as being the kind of merc that would literally drop everything and come on the job if you mention 'Fuck Arasaka'. it isn't stated outright but it is alluded that a female member of his family was perhaps violated by a high ranking member of Arasaka @@EyeofCenter
Really? ‘Cause all I remember was that Blackhand was trying to rescue Shaitan from Smasher’s clutches. Friends or not, Blackhand is infamous for being pragmatic and levelheaded. I don’t see him losing his shit mid op, regardless of what happened.
This video did way better than I thought it would. Lots of people seem to be searching "Morgan Blackhand" or "Morgan Blackhand Cyberpunk 2077." I remember reading that CDPR confirmed Mike Pondsmith told them what happens to Blackhand and gave them ideas on how to use him in 77. There's a good chance he'll show up in one of the DLC. Honestly, I can't help imagining Blackhand blasting a hole in the ceiling and dropping in while V is in the middle of a gun fight somewhere. I also wouldn't be surprised if he's been hiding up in space somewhere for the past few decades. Then again, there may or may not be some connection between Blackhand and Mr. Blue Eyes. Whatever the case, here's hoping CDPR finds an interesting way to introduce him into the game.
Isn't he dead? I thought he got a drink in Afterlife
@@donmak1614 No, Claire specifically says Morgan "can't make up his mind whether he's dead or alive" (or something to that affect), so there's no drink named after him. Mike Pondsmith/CDPR have stated that one of the biggest mysteries post-2020 is what happened to Morgan Blackhand after Arasaka Tower got nuked.
Where you get the Morgan blackhand gear
They essentially rolled Johnny and Morgan into the same character in this game
Yeah. They did present a narrative justification when Alt tells us that most of Johnny's memories are just fabrications that the Engram Johnny concocted in Mikoshi.
@@EyeofCenter yeah that's true. I hope that's the case and they introduce Blackhand in the dlc and we get to see his point of view of the Arasaka bombing, including his fight with Smasher
@@Dogtles It's been implied that Blackhand won that fight. The game might be broken as hell in terms of combat, but I think Smasher was presented somewhat accurately. His character sheet in the TTRPG books show he was never really a great fighter/Solo. His main strength was always his modified FBC giving him insanely high Attributes.
@@EyeofCenter I thought the implication was it was a draw. They were fighting hand to hand on the top of Arasaka when the nuke went of beneath them.
@@KeesidiaThe way it was described in Firestorm, they weren't supposed to be fighting hand-to-hand. They were shooting at each other the entire time they were on the roof. And then they jumped at each other across the gap between the two sides of the tower. It was essentially that scene from the Matrix where Trinity and the Agent are shooting at each other the entire time they're falling to their deaths.
We know Smasher survived, but both CDPR and R. Talsorian have both confirmed Blackhand is still alive. It's obviously open to interpretation, but looking at the way everything was described, I don't think there's any way for Blackhand to survive unless he disabled Smasher while they were falling. There's no way he just magically avoided all of Smasher's bullets and just somehow broke his fall and walked away while Smasher was actively focused on killing him the entire way down.
If you're interested, I went on a whole autistic rant about this way back when. The sound editing and recording I did was terrible, so I'll probably redo the whole thing at some point though: ruclips.net/video/anxfA1wD3UU/видео.html
Johnny was working for millitech as part of blackhands crew on that mission
Yeah. Johnny was really using Militech for his own ends. But if we really think about it, Blackhand kind of (maybe inadvertently) ended up screwing Rogue and Johnny over completely by involving them in the Militech strike. 2077 says that Militech denied any involvement in the incident and that the entire country believes it was a terrorist attack carried out by anti-corporate wackjobs. Johnny is remembered as a terrorist who nearly burned Night City down while Rogue went into hiding and ended up forced to work for Arasaka for the next several decades.
Wished morgan was in the game to get some sort of interaction about Johnny and Adam
I'd love to see the look on Morgan's face when he hears Johnny's version of the Firestorm attack.
@@EyeofCenterI doubt Morgan would be that upset. All that matters to Morgan Blackhand is completing his mission and getting his next one.
@@EyeofCenterMorgan would likely know about it, as angel probably kept tabs with close friends
@@mohdshahariar5833 I've always wondered what Rogue would have to say if Blackhand ever resurfaced. They were friends (and Firestorm even said that they were ex-lovers), but Blackhand ended up screwing over the entire strike team big-time. Militech completely disavowed the attack and people started labeling it a terrorist attack. We still don't have the full story, but Rogue clearly implies in 2077 that she ended up in the worst spot you can imagine after the dust settled.
@@theflyingwelshman5338 Still, the shock of it all would be hilarious. But then again, I always got a chuckle out of the fact that the Johnny-engram is so delusional about those specific events.
Watched the Whole video didn't Heard a single Line about blackhand
Blackhand is who Johnny's talking about when he mentions a merc who sold out to a corporation. In all the CP books, Blackhand is the only character Johnny knows who fits that description.
@@EyeofCenter isn't Adam smasher one too ? I didn't really Saw a lot about blackhand
@@boocolo1046 Smasher is arguably one (he didn't really choose to work for Arasaka. He just got blown up during an op and had to choose a 15-year contract with them or death). But in Johnny's sphere, Blackhand is the only character that completely associates with a corporation.
The worst thing is when they switch up your identity and you never even know that you've become someone else. -Johnny Silverhand...?
I've always thought it was very subtly hinted that the real reason Arasaka is pushing "Secure Your Soul" at all is so that once the richest and most powerful people in the world are in Mikoshi, they could try and alter their minds however they want. By the story, Arasaka has always been a cover for Saburo Arasaka's dreams of subjugating the world under Japanese rule. Given enough time with Mikoshi, they might actually just be able to do that.
On the top of the building when u sit with misty. theres a datapad that mentions what seems like Morgan blackhand mentioning how a crazy rocker boy Johnny went out and how to him all it got Johnny was killed. I hope hes in the dlc
Sadly, Mike Pondsmith and CDPR have confirmed that Blackhand won't be in the DLC. Both have confirmed he's still alive though, so my money says he'll be showing up in the sequel.
If CDPR are dead-set on celebrities playing major characters for the Cyberpunk franchise, Thomas Jane would make a fantastic Morgan Blackhand.
Good choice. Jon Bernthal would also be a good choice.
Or an older Blackhand voiced by Sylvester Stallone...
The guy perfect for Blackhand is George Clooney
Morgan Blackhand is the Number 1
Definitely. While CP2077 paints V as the 2070s era Blackhand by the ending, I don't even think the most powerful Level 50 V we could build would be able to keep up with Blackhand.
@@EyeofCenter there is a top ten list the best solos of night city and the funny part is Adam smasher is not on the list 😂 I think my next V is a male and I try a Morgan Blackhand build LOL
@@EyeofCenter dude V inside the Lore became a fukimg Beast, the fact that black hand tie whit smasher dont count to you ? I mean, Lore tells that V obliteterated smasher, si nah V istill dedtroying almost everyone in nigth city no doubts.
@@janraptor47 I get what you mean, but I still don't think V would compare to Blackhand. V is definitely one of the best Edgerunners in the world after the game - and the game tells us he/she is the current generation version of Blackhand. But Blackhand was a much more powerful character in the books.
FIrst, it's been heavily implied that Blackhand beat Smasher the first time they fought. It's implied that when the two of them fell through the roof of the tower, Blackhand managed to destroy Smasher's cyborg body and escape before the tower completely collapsed.
Second, even the most overpowered Level 50 V a player can build in this game can only max out so many attributes. That means V can only max out so many skills. But if you look at Blackhand's character sheet in the books, he has so many Attributes maxed and so many skills maxed that I don't think V would be able to compete with him. Even if we give them both current gen cyberware, Blackhand would most likely outmaneuver V in most fights.
@@EyeofCenter i dont know dude, Lore acurated V its some thing else, the fact that black hand its a legend its the same that Johny silverhand its to. Now smasher its the equals to arasaka that black hand its to militech. Both sells to the most powerfull companies now V its the only one who can Fit in any term of compatibility whit ciber wear, i mean V can handle all of them that means V can outrun black hand in terms of battle power, yeah black hand Is the Best solo but V ITS another fking thing if you can count the in game lore, V take down everyone down, asaul full base factories of arasaka AND the tower by himself alone. Now Lets talk about V prime vs black hand prime, again dude black hand its full tactic Beast and and V its all of that and beyond. If you play v in the game like you want thats how V ITS going to handle black hand, so at this point V its just a force of the nature untill devs reveal V real level of treat in the Lore. But again the game its the core Lore, so V its just what It Is.
Bro pick the next dialogue option already, gaaaaaaaahhhhhhddddammnnn
Okay, grandma. LOL.
@@EyeofCenter that's what I'm saying to you! If you drive like you pick dialogue options, I'd hate to be behind you in traffic 😂 you pick slower than a handicap slave in a cotton field fam
Where do you find that jacket in game?
Location's changed a bunch of times between patches. I did a write-up here if you're interested, but I can't say for sure it hasn't changed again: www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/3872
@@EyeofCenter Appreciate this man
It's envy too. Morgan is the badass Johnny's ego made him think he was. In reality Morgan almost killed Adam Smasher while Johnny got oneshotted with a shotgun by Smasher
This. Johnny couldn't even dent Smasher's armor. Ironically, I actually think the books gave Johnny a much better death than the delusional Jardani Silverhand flashbacks we see in 77.
Also, I am 100% convinced that Blackhand won that fight with Adam Smasher. The fact that they've confirmed he's still alive by 77 means he had to have disabled Smasher and walked away from the blast site.
If you're interested, I did an entire autistic rant about the Blackhand v. Smasher fight a while back. Editing and sound effects are terrible, but I'd love to hear what another Firestorm fan thinks about it. ruclips.net/video/anxfA1wD3UU/видео.html
this video is very misleading. Johnny never say Blackhand by name. Also Blackhand wasnt in the flashback like he is in the lore. Simply put your flat out wrong. Johnny didnt dis blackhand.
I don't know how you can come to that conclusion or even say that with such certainty at all. Whether Johnny meant to insult Blackhand or not, that's exactly what he did. Johnny very clearly derides mercenaries who sell out to corporations. At this point in the game, there is no other character who fits this description. Blackhand was the only character in the entire series that Johnny knew who matches that description to a T. And whether he was naming Blackhand or not, he is clearly thumbing his nose at anyone who did exactly what Blackhand spent the entire Cyberpunk series doing.
@@EyeofCenterIt feels more his own commentary on the current time than a sly dig at the past.