I read somewhere that whites in Zimbabwe owned 70% of the developed arable land and not 70% of the arable land. There's a huge difference between the two, as Zimbabwe has no shortage of arable land. They could have increased the number of black farmers without taking away the farms from the white farmers. And why on earth would you target the pillar on which your whole economy rests? Zimbabwe was once called the bread basket of Africa and now it is unable to feed itself, let alone export products to other countries. A very stupid approach by the government. And on top of that, a very heartless approach. I feel sorry for all Zimbabweans, white and black, that their beautiful country has been devastated by crony ZANU-PF politics. A true tragedy. And as for the woman in the end, I think it would be best if she just moved away. It's incredibly unfair and tragic, but I think it's better to go away alive rather than stay on that farm and become pray to Mugabe's cronies.
Afghan you why they can't feed them self because England fuck them , learn about what England did . England make the world turn against them and it still happening all over the world if not with them you against them learn that as a black man
I agree to some degree. There are some black people who actually know how farming works but the government gave the farms that they took away to Zanu PF members who knew absolutely nothing about farming. That's when the country went downhill. I miss the old Zimbabwe. When I was younger, me and my white friends got along so well, we didn't even know that racism still existed from both sides. Its so sad! :(
God bless this woman. May she stay strong and keep her faith strong. Just heartbreaking quite honestly. I just want to give her a big long hug and hold her while she just let's it all out. How hard and scary this must be. Sister, I am going to pray for you. ❤🙏🕊❤🕊🙏
That is Ben Freeth at the start of this segment. His home and the Mt. Carmel farm were burned down late last year by Mugabe supporters. My prayers are with the Freeth and Campbell families.
@@loganw1232 she is still European the land of her ancestors her birthright and inheritance and where her loyalties are. Yes she is a Zimbabwean national by birth but she is not African she is not one of us.... Rhodhesian history proves it. No to identity appropriation when is suits you. There is no African European never has been never will be therefore there is no European African. That which she sees when she looks in the mirror that's who she definitely is.
@@Ben___ well Africa and Australia proves its feasiblefor colonial descendents who obviously benefited intergenerational. Same cannot be said for natives
may God help that woman, her words were powerful. Africa belongs to all who live in it, black and white and they should live together as equals. This is a black person saying this
Agreed, as someone who is a blue-eyed red-haired over sixty. A few years ago I was sharing my life with a black girl from Ghana. The worst racism we got was from black guys. Pots and kettles.
That story about Ruth’s grandfathers grave being desecrated is so very sad. What a strong brave and lovely looking Lady. So sorry for what you have had to endure. It’s just so wrong. But there will be a reckoning one day. God bless you and your family.
all zimbabwe needs is a true and straight foward leader, mugabe from what i understand was a freedom fighter who later changed towards his own people and country, a damn shame!
Hi Ed - I think you made fascinating documentary here. As we approach 10 years since it was made, have you considered remaking it? If so I would love to know more! Thanks Alex
My respects and all my best wishes to everyone suffering in this beautiful but at the same time hellish country. I just hope everything will turn out good one day, so you didnt suffer for nothing. Thank you very much for taking the risk and making this video it needs a lot more views. I didnt know, this had more than 2 parts, but now I have to watch them all. Damn you youtube.
we cant allow ourselves to stoop to the lowest levels and have frivolous debates about race , about white vs black . Humanity is greater than that , stronger than that. The way the whites were treated in Zimbabwe was Awful . However, land reform was always going to happen , it just should have never happened the way it did . There was a smarter more economically beneficial way to do it that would ensure that Zimbabwe produced enough , and that there was racial proportionality that reflected the general population and empowered the marginalized black man . Blacks and whites in Zimbabwe need to be reconciled because the honest truth is that we are stronger when we stand together!
I do agree with you but the way the 'Black' people were treated by Ian Smith, was disgusting! He was only interested in helping his 'Caucasian' people to become filthy rich. Black people were not allowed to own farms. Do your research on the history of 'Rhodesia' under Ian Smith's rule. KARMA IS CERTAINLY A B.......
I can't find anything on Ruth Pace in 2020. But, I did find this on Mr Freeth. "In June 2010, Freeth was appointed a Member of the Order of the British Empire by Queen Elizabeth II in recognition of his human rights activism in Zimbabwe.
@nkiru61 It has never been about food production in Zimbabwe. It was always about the loss of the billion dollar tobacco industry in the western world. The white farmers owned much of Zim's arable that produced the tobacco & cash crops which was then sold to the Zimbabwean people. They never cared about the African people. It was just about resources. The study showed that Africans are independently picking up on their food production without the whites farmers that relied on Tobacco exports.
Really in the end there when she describes how they cannot farm or own cattle did u know that my ancestors wer subjected to the exact same treatment only difference is wen my ancestors tried to resist they wer murdered so i feel no remorse for someone who benefitted from an evil racist regime...that is what i call KARMA!!!!
The new white generation in Zim they deserve some respect than their grandparents and some of their parents , coz they are really reasonable in terms of how they see blacks than their forefathers who thought were better than blacks. I feel sorry for you later generation of white Zimbabweans who went through all this shock . I wish things could be made well between new generation blacks and whites not to follow their fathers wicked principles and do stuff that wont hurt any of them. All will be well we pray
Sorry about your Mother. My condolences to your family. Be brave, definitely you are an African. Continue with your life. God will surely see you true. I admire and love you.
Great documentary, if I can give constructive criticism, some transitions and using some footage of the specific violence or even landscape over the interviews would be very pleasing to the viewers perception and it wont take away from the point of the film. You did a good job of get them to talk about their feelings! I noticed that the guy with the moustache is also on Mugabe and the white african. Keep making films about the Zim!! cheers
@tothemax01 Sorry, I made a mistake with regards to the paragraph in general. Apparently, the US and EU have imposed harsh sanctions on Zimbabwe and done their fair but in prompting the dramatic decline in the economic fortunes of the country. After further research, it seems to be the case that both the US and EU have been systematically understating the effect of their own sanctions. If it is ineffectual, as some say, then why would smart politicians impose them?
White people built such an incredible civilization ❤ with a stable currency a thriving economy, schools, hospitals, universities paved streets railroads, plenty of clean, running water, lots of electricity and air conditioning, fully stocked grocery store shelves, plenty of petrol at all the filling stations, airports, no trash on the streets no graffiti on the buildings and then everything suddenly crumbled I wonder what happened
@Pindol1 You can achieve much greater things through reconciliation than you can through hatred and war. If there are dreams about a beautiful South Africa, there are also roads that lead to their goal. Two of these roads could be named Goodness and Forgiveness. Nelson Mandela That counts for everything my friend. Kind regards Lancelot Vantuyckom
By 1899 embryonic Rhodesia born. Intercine tribal wars ended. 1,500 schools (150,000 African pupils). By 1930 400,000 acres of maize, tobacco & fodders beef/dairy, fruits exported to Europe. Inexpensive agricultural loans encouraged Ag Dev. all this before tractors in just 35 years! $350 million from gold. Railways 2,149 miles. Roads 1,600 miles capable of handling motorized vehicles. 212 Post Offices 47 with money services. Large portion of natives employed.
@tothemax01 No, you don't decide what is and is not valid. The pure free market will yield to the richest and most influential, which can be anyone with money including people who don't plan to farm. Now, the government can hold a "free market" bidding style in which potential farmers compete to show their worth and receive the land. The best of those who apply will be chosen and thus a "free market" approach will have been used in the decision-making process. This seems ideal.
@Pindol1 Reconstruction and Development Programme (RDP), they wanted to build 1 million houses for people try to give the people in South Africa adequate schooling like ours ( something you again criticize without knowing true facts..), they tried to give sanitation for the 21 million people without it. Yes there were railways and there were cities, there was and still is! a great deal of potential. But what i learned during my years of naive and uniformed schooling was that a country has many
@Napoleon501ste, True. Please take into account that Europe (which I don't consider a continnent, but for your sake I will) is small. Of course, land will be very expesive in Europe compared to Africa which is very vast and plenty of untapped land.
@Toojohnny. As long as you see a shrink, then I am good. Mental illnesses are terrible and so many people suffer from them and don't even know it. Thank you for thinking about getting some help. You will be fine. Don't be ashamed. Get help.
Hi Treble. I really should get out more, plus the fact that my wife and son are flying to Australia tomorrow morning, but at least he/she/it : the strange broadaster of hate can't even contemplate planting a bomb. Anyway, I like the cut of yor gib. I thought that I'd take some time out to say this. And before that twisted person can get a hold of this, I wish you a good day. Peace, Insh Allah. Whatever. Cheers, John in London
@tothemax01 Well, it seems that 44 countries agreed with me in 1998, so maybe I'm onto something. Whether or not reclaiming ownership works on an individual or collective level is more a philosophical than a practical question. In other words, it is merely a matter of opinion. A state may invoke ownership of land for individuals by annexing plots and distributing to any selected group.
Love and support to you there in Zimbabwe. Coming from settler stock, I feel connected to your plight. Above all politics, you have shown the ultimate resilience. Respect and love
@StSimonMartyr That is called development. The road to sustenance is a long and hard one. As long as African leaders are minding the people and reforms are made to improve the country, we are happy to oblige them. I'd rather live poor among black equals than rich under the auspices of a white master.
It breaks my heart when a Black African do that to White African. This is disgusting. They are repeating that racism action the same way the Whites have done to them.
@Rawrlor I don't doubt it, there are plenty of states which engage in theft and pillage. They can also decide to butcher citizens, and they do sometimes, so what? And when a mob takes over a bunch of property, and then divvies it out to individuals afterwards - this is not reclamation, since the mob did not own the property, and the individuals who end up with it were not prior owners of each piece of property either. I repeat, explain to me how property can be collectivity owned?
did u not listen to the video? when these people arrived there was nothing there- the land was bush. They were the ones that put in irrigation, planted the crops, imported machinary and built the farms. Once they were successful and productive they get taken away- in a lot of cases they did buy the land anyway.
@Rawrlor I don't know, same thing applies with Iran. You could completely isolate the countries of dictators, and the leadership wouldn't budge one bit. It is all politicians now how to do. And if you start arming and training democratic rebels (mimicking what China and Russia did in africa) to take over Zimbabwe and eject Mugabe, they may then become a junta. My personal opinion is that the country will never rebound, and further that South Africa will also slowly collapse.
Bobbejaan klim die berg, so haastig en so lastig; bobbejaan klim die berg, so haastig en so lastig; bobbejaan klim die berg om die boere te vererg. Hoera vir die jollie bobbejaan! O moenie huil nie, o moenie treur nie, die Stellenbosse boys kom weer. O moenie huil nie, o moenie treur nie, die Stellenbosse boys kom weer.
This is just so wrong. Where is there humanity? You can't just force people to abandon their own farm. They have invested their own money , sweat and blood to make these farms progressive thus contributing to the local economy and yet the government has the nerve to treat then this way? We had similar agrarian reform laws in my country the Philippines. We call farms and ranches as haciendas. Most haciendas were owned by spanish or mestizos. Since the 1970s up to now, the government has been slowly upholding the agrarian reform law. Which buys the land property of the owner and then distributing it the local workers. Although there were some glitches but never did our government forced land owners to relinquish their land titles. It's a voluntary selling -buying relationship. The analogy is that, if you want to have a piece of land , you buy it like anybody else did. Mugabe ' s decision is all wrong and the will backfire to his own people sooner later with grave consequences. Mark my words.
La'Velle Walker The bill gets written off as a tax credit for the hospital. Point is..Stop living in the past, forget it, move on or you are the one who suffers.
La'Velle Walker Try this..Say your ancestors owed a bill, you do not know any of these people and are not closely related to them at all, are you responsible to pay that bill, with interest?
+La'Velle Walker first of all don't call me silly. Second of all, you can't just hold anyone responsible for the mistakes of their ancestors. I believe that we are not liable for the wrongdoings of our ancestors. We can apologize on there behalf but never do we have to take accountability for that. My country was also a Spanish colony for 333 years, a Japanese occuppied territory in WW2 and an American territory for 50 years, so are you saying that I should hold hatred and vengeance towards every random Spaniard, Japanese and American person that I will meet in my entire life? No way! If you want that kind of life, then so be it. But always remember that not all people are as narrow minded as you.
La'Velle Walker you wanna know what's really silly? It's you! You are trying to correct a mistake with another mistake by harboring ill feelings towards the white descendants and keeping the desire to get even with your false justice and retribution. Asians like me were subjected to oppression and discrimination as well. But guess what? We moved on, worked hard and maintained close ties with our previous colonizers to maintain our economic foothold on them and vice versa. Its a two way street bro. You can play the victim card all you want but I am damn right that by 2015 we should have moved on and work together for the mutual benefit of everyone.
@phantomsuccour Sure! Just consign millions to suffering who could be saved, people who have no control of their destiny, who's only concern can ever be physical survival. The masses aren't responsible for their condition, they can't just gain education and a stable economy and democracy through sheer force of will. They need help, and it's the west's obligation to help them, for simple moral reasons. You can argue that we're not doing a good job, but you can't say it isn't worth doing.
@tothemax01 Redistribution is just. The principle of Mugabe's actions are not in question, but rather the execution of his mandates. Better government policy with regards to land redistribution would have necessarily involved proper assessment and training of recipient farmers before any actual takeovers took place. Such a vetting process would have ensured only best farmers were given control of an important part of Zimbabwe's economic machine.
@vibrantkitty1 Actually it was discovered recently that India probably invented the first written language. The "Indus script" has never been deciphered to this day and predates all egyptian AND Mesopotamian writing. There is still no clear evidence whether sumerian writing or egyptian hieroglyphics came first either.
Thank you. Food for thought. But now I have to take the dog out. I look forward to talking to you later. And I don't care what colour, race, class or creed you are. Just to share.
europe has always been more developed than africa so there never was vast tracks of unused land. In any case a lot of these white farmers bought land from Mugabe's goverment after 1980 when Zimbabwe was in black hands. Why do they have no right to the land? Mugabe was happy to sell it to them and then later on he takes it away once it was developed.
Not true, in the next 20 years Zimbabwe will become one of the first countries in the whole of Africa to have blacks who actually own their economy, the chains are broken and Whites are terrified. Black doctors, Black engineers, Black pilots, Black commercial farmers, Black Millionaires, Black entreprenuers. Scary for you I know. The most valuable resource for any nation is its people, and now Black Zimbabweans will be educated and wealthy. No racist laws and Sanctions cant stop us. What!!!!
I would love for Canada to take them as well, but unfortunately nowadays to even be considered to apply to remain in Canada you need to either be not of european descent or have one hell of an education. Asylum would be an option though. I believe Europe should take all these people back. What future they think they have there is beyond me.
BBC article "Zimbabwe land reform 'not a failure'" 17 November 2010 The 10 year study debunks five myths: * That land reform has been a total failure * That most of the land has gone to political "cronies" * That there is no investment on the resettled land * That agriculture is in complete ruins, creating chronic food insecurity * That the rural economy has collapsed The study found that about two-thirds of people who were given land were "ordinary -low income- Zimbabweans"
@StSimonMartyr It's irrelevant. Even if blacks couldn't develop, there is something called self-determination that guarantees them their right to choose their own destiny.
@Pindol1 All countries ruled by blacks are in Africa, which in itself is a difficult and unruly land to government. However, incase you have any doubts with regards to African leadership, look no further than African and African American CEOs of large companies.
@tothemax01 they didn't buy them. their grandfathers acquired them illigally during colonial rule. where everything was taking from poor black man with guns and unhuman laws such as apartheld. during that time white man multreated black man on his own motherland, taken them as slave and prisoners working for them. so my brother, President Mugabe is doing all this because of pains his people suffered in the hands of whiteman.
@Amalgamaite I agree with you, Zimbabwe could be a food factory -and should be a food factory- for all of Africa. But I know that crook Mugabe will just not let it happen. This is why I say Mugabe is not in his right mind: he would rather see widespread hunger while farmland sits unused. The whites are just a tiny minority anyway so there really is no need to fret over them.
just like when a person of African decent is born in England, or Holland, or Germany, or the US, they are citizens of that country by international law.
@nkiru61 Most westerners always refer to Zimbabwe as "Bread basket of Africa" when their European brethren were in control of the Zimbabwe's economy. Western media will never tell their audience that the Zimbabwe's agricultural economy was based on the "export of Tobacco". Yes, it was the no.1 source of Zimbabwe's income. I am sure you now have an idea how the loss of this export affected Western Tobacco companies. In retaliation they introduced sanctions under guise of human rights abuse.
Treble, I have to tell you. yah, this as it's a bit on the surreal side. I was in a fight on Tuesday night in a pub, yah, - defending someone else. So, a couple of months back, a mate of mine said I looked a dead-ringer for Harry Enfield playing some South African half-witted thug. I have to admit to a certain similarity, especially as I am sporting a wonderful crooked nose and black eye. Yah! It was a great night! You would have loved it!
I saw a documentary where "working class whites" in Zimbabwe were displaced from gov't jobs by blacks. These working class whites should assist the white farmers here so the farmers don't have to hire blacks- safer that way. And the displaced workers would have jobs.
@tothemax01 And the sanctions do not harm Mugabe, but his people. No economic sanction ever harms "dictators"; they always live well. The US and EU know this, and simply impose these sanctions to force the Zimbabwe people into reviling and expelling Mugabe. If the US and EU persist in these sanctions, then they will only continue to perpetuate poverty and starvation. Aside, reclaiming ownership works on both individual and collective level. It doesn't matter if you agree or not.
I went to school with her daughter, one of the nicest families I ever met. Such gentle and caring people.
Really!
How are they doing now?
@@MrCanada1 better than the Zimbabwe’s today.
I wish I could do my part to help the whites in Zimbabwe and South Africa.
She speaks with great dignity and grace - a very moving documentary. Hope this gets the exposure it deserves, and ultimately influences events.
instead of having a nation that was the economic envy of Africa, Zimbabwe is facing another famine
@@melc311 The only thing they'll figure out how to do is migrate to Europe illegally and come with some sob story about how they are "refugees".
I read somewhere that whites in Zimbabwe owned 70% of the developed arable land and not 70% of the arable land. There's a huge difference between the two, as Zimbabwe has no shortage of arable land. They could have increased the number of black farmers without taking away the farms from the white farmers. And why on earth would you target the pillar on which your whole economy rests? Zimbabwe was once called the bread basket of Africa and now it is unable to feed itself, let alone export products to other countries. A very stupid approach by the government. And on top of that, a very heartless approach. I feel sorry for all Zimbabweans, white and black, that their beautiful country has been devastated by crony ZANU-PF politics. A true tragedy. And as for the woman in the end, I think it would be best if she just moved away. It's incredibly unfair and tragic, but I think it's better to go away alive rather than stay on that farm and become pray to Mugabe's cronies.
***** There's no reason to assume that this will even be happening to Christians and Jews all over the world. Luckily.
+KK yea and having no food to eat is gunna be more acceptable?
Afghan you why they can't feed them self because England fuck them , learn about what England did . England make the world turn against them and it still happening all over the world if not with them you against them learn that as a black man
Long lost Rhodesia!
I wish the US governement would give these Whites in SA, citizenship for America. So they could relocate to America.
tyrone jones 😂😂😂😂😂😂👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿
tyrone jones why to America, whites need to get the fck out of America too. They all need to go back to the caves of Europe
tyrone jones .... and Mr TRUMP will welcome them with the red carpet!
Except in America it's is blacks with guns lmao that's even worse
No body is innocent Repent
Running a complex commercial farm operation takes enormous ability and planning.
A Lot of people don't know that . . . . Running a successful Comercial Farm Is a very complex game, that requires a sophisticated strategy.
I agree to some degree. There are some black people who actually know how farming works but the government gave the farms that they took away to Zanu PF members who knew absolutely nothing about farming. That's when the country went downhill. I miss the old Zimbabwe. When I was younger, me and my white friends got along so well, we didn't even know that racism still existed from both sides. Its so sad! :(
God bless this woman. May she stay strong and keep her faith strong. Just heartbreaking quite honestly. I just want to give her a big long hug and hold her while she just let's it all out. How hard and scary this must be. Sister, I am going to pray for you. ❤🙏🕊❤🕊🙏
That is Ben Freeth at the start of this segment. His home and the Mt. Carmel farm were burned down late last year by Mugabe supporters. My prayers are with the Freeth and Campbell families.
When the woman says I am African, it makes the point strongly that being part of a country isn’t reserved to a specific race or tribal group.
😂 Yet she is European
@@chiyenyumba7135 She was born in Africa. Grew up in Africa, not Europe.
@@loganw1232 she is still European the land of her ancestors her birthright and inheritance and where her loyalties are. Yes she is a Zimbabwean national by birth but she is not African she is not one of us.... Rhodhesian history proves it. No to identity appropriation when is suits you. There is no African European never has been never will be therefore there is no European African. That which she sees when she looks in the mirror that's who she definitely is.
@@chiyenyumba7135So you don't think people of one race moving to and living in the land of another race is feasible?
@@Ben___ well Africa and Australia proves its feasiblefor colonial descendents who obviously benefited intergenerational. Same cannot be said for natives
God bless you young lady - my wife and I will be praying for you and your husband
may God help that woman, her words were powerful. Africa belongs to all who live in it, black and white and they should live together as equals. This is a black person saying this
Agreed, as someone who is a blue-eyed red-haired over sixty. A few years ago I was sharing my life with a black girl from Ghana. The worst racism we got was from black guys. Pots and kettles.
Blacks should be respected in their own land as much as other races need to be respected in their own lands.
It's heartbreaking to hear her story. Her sadness is palpable
You are very brave people. God bless you both.
That story about Ruth’s grandfathers grave being desecrated is so very sad. What a strong brave and lovely looking Lady. So sorry for what you have had to endure. It’s just so wrong. But there will be a reckoning one day. God bless you and your family.
all zimbabwe needs is a true and straight foward leader, mugabe from what i understand was a freedom fighter who later changed towards his own people and country, a damn shame!
It hurts! Im lost for words😓. Its not just the white farmers who lost but all of the nation save for those in power.
Hi Ed - I think you made fascinating documentary here. As we approach 10 years since it was made, have you considered remaking it? If so I would love to know more! Thanks
Alex
The other recent videos all show the Zims going thru hell with no farmers.
My respects and all my best wishes to everyone suffering in this beautiful but at the same time hellish country. I just hope everything will turn out good one day, so you didnt suffer for nothing.
Thank you very much for taking the risk and making this video it needs a lot more views.
I didnt know, this had more than 2 parts, but now I have to watch them all. Damn you youtube.
we cant allow ourselves to stoop to the lowest levels and have frivolous debates about race , about white vs black . Humanity is greater than that , stronger than that. The way the whites were treated in Zimbabwe was Awful . However, land reform was always going to happen , it just should have never happened the way it did . There was a smarter more economically beneficial way to do it that would ensure that Zimbabwe produced enough , and that there was racial proportionality that reflected the general population and empowered the marginalized black man . Blacks and whites in Zimbabwe need to be reconciled because the honest truth is that we are stronger when we stand together!
It was about white vs black to the blacks you'd never see a white man fighting with Mugabe but you blacks fighting for Rhodesia
Mature statement...
Well said = I hope the second generation of Zimbabweans after the armed conflict can overcome the hatred fear distrust and disgust between all races
I do agree with you but the way the 'Black' people were treated by Ian Smith, was disgusting! He was only interested in helping his 'Caucasian' people to become filthy rich. Black people were not allowed to own farms. Do your research on the history of 'Rhodesia' under Ian Smith's rule. KARMA IS CERTAINLY A B.......
@@Mathilda5xp Certainly. Ian Smith was but a white Mugabe
@forevah Thanks for pointing out this article. I found it on The BBC website "Zimbabwe land reform 'not a failure', published on 17 nov 2010.
I can't find anything on Ruth Pace in 2020. But, I did find this on Mr Freeth. "In June 2010, Freeth was appointed a Member of the Order of the British Empire by Queen Elizabeth II in recognition of his human rights activism in Zimbabwe.
@nkiru61
It has never been about food production in Zimbabwe. It was always about the loss of the billion dollar tobacco industry in the western world. The white farmers owned much of Zim's arable that produced the tobacco & cash crops which was then sold to the Zimbabwean people. They never cared about the African people. It was just about resources. The study showed that Africans are independently picking up on their food production without the whites farmers that relied on Tobacco exports.
No, it was about setting scores. Mugabe wanted revenge, he got it but at whose expense?
This makes my heart REALLY sad on so many levels for so many reasons (especially watching as an American in 2020)
Colonialism must destroy 😀white devil
Really in the end there when she describes how they cannot farm or own cattle did u know that my ancestors wer subjected to the exact same treatment only difference is wen my ancestors tried to resist they wer murdered so i feel no remorse for someone who benefitted from an evil racist regime...that is what i call KARMA!!!!
The new white generation in Zim they deserve some respect than their grandparents and some of their parents , coz they are really reasonable in terms of how they see blacks than their forefathers who thought were better than blacks. I feel sorry for you later generation of white Zimbabweans who went through all this shock . I wish things could be made well between new generation blacks and whites not to follow their fathers wicked principles and do stuff that wont hurt any of them. All will be well we pray
usaruss. You are on the nail, I agree. Let's keep talking.
Sorry about your Mother. My condolences to your family. Be brave, definitely you are an African. Continue with your life. God will surely see you true. I admire and love you.
Thank you!
Great documentary, if I can give constructive criticism, some transitions and using some footage of the specific violence or even landscape over the interviews would be very pleasing to the viewers perception and it wont take away from the point of the film. You did a good job of get them to talk about their feelings! I noticed that the guy with the moustache is also on Mugabe and the white african.
Keep making films about the Zim!!
cheers
@tothemax01
Sorry, I made a mistake with regards to the paragraph in general.
Apparently, the US and EU have imposed harsh sanctions on Zimbabwe and done their fair but in prompting the dramatic decline in the economic fortunes of the country. After further research, it seems to be the case that both the US and EU have been systematically understating the effect of their own sanctions. If it is ineffectual, as some say, then why would smart politicians impose them?
thank you Henry Kissinger
White people built such an incredible civilization ❤
with a stable currency a thriving economy, schools, hospitals, universities paved streets railroads, plenty of clean, running water, lots of electricity and air conditioning, fully stocked grocery store shelves, plenty of petrol at all the filling stations, airports, no trash on the streets no graffiti on the buildings and then everything suddenly crumbled
I wonder what happened
What nice people, And what atrocities commited against them.
@Pindol1 You can achieve much greater things through reconciliation than you can through hatred and war.
If there are dreams about a beautiful South Africa, there are also roads that lead to their goal. Two of these roads could be named Goodness and Forgiveness.
Nelson Mandela
That counts for everything my friend.
Kind regards
Lancelot Vantuyckom
By 1899 embryonic Rhodesia born. Intercine tribal wars ended. 1,500 schools (150,000 African pupils). By 1930 400,000 acres of maize, tobacco & fodders beef/dairy, fruits exported to Europe. Inexpensive agricultural loans encouraged Ag Dev. all this before tractors in just 35 years! $350 million from gold. Railways 2,149 miles. Roads 1,600 miles capable of handling motorized vehicles. 212 Post Offices 47 with money services. Large portion of natives employed.
@tothemax01
No, you don't decide what is and is not valid. The pure free market will yield to the richest and most influential, which can be anyone with money including people who don't plan to farm.
Now, the government can hold a "free market" bidding style in which potential farmers compete to show their worth and receive the land. The best of those who apply will be chosen and thus a "free market" approach will have been used in the decision-making process. This seems ideal.
this is heartbreaking!
This is karma..sorry 😀you deserve it
@Pindol1 Reconstruction and Development Programme (RDP), they wanted to build 1 million houses for people try to give the people in South Africa adequate schooling like ours ( something you again criticize without knowing true facts..), they tried to give sanitation for the 21 million people without it. Yes there were railways and there were cities, there was and still is! a great deal of potential. But what i learned during my years of naive and uniformed schooling was that a country has many
@Napoleon501ste, True. Please take into account that Europe (which I don't consider a continnent, but for your sake I will) is small. Of course, land will be very expesive in Europe compared to Africa which is very vast and plenty of untapped land.
I wonder where Ruth Pace lives now in 2023 and how she is getting on?
I hope for the best and wish her well!
@vibrantkitty1 Also, the jury is still out as to whether or not "Egyptians" were all black or not. The answer is most likely no at this point.
whether we're underutilising our land or not it doesn't change the fact that its ours.
@Toojohnny. As long as you see a shrink, then I am good. Mental illnesses are terrible and so many people suffer from them and don't even know it. Thank you for thinking about getting some help. You will be fine. Don't be ashamed. Get help.
@forevah Then how come a small bag of tomatoes costs $33 000 about 2 U.S dollars.
Hi Treble. I really should get out more, plus the fact that my wife and son are flying to Australia tomorrow morning, but at least he/she/it : the strange broadaster of hate can't even contemplate planting a bomb. Anyway, I like the cut of yor gib. I thought that I'd take some time out to say this. And before that twisted person can get a hold of this, I wish you a good day. Peace, Insh Allah. Whatever. Cheers, John in London
@tothemax01
Well, it seems that 44 countries agreed with me in 1998, so maybe I'm onto something. Whether or not reclaiming ownership works on an individual or collective level is more a philosophical than a practical question. In other words, it is merely a matter of opinion.
A state may invoke ownership of land for individuals by annexing plots and distributing to any selected group.
Love and support to you there in Zimbabwe. Coming from settler stock, I feel connected to your plight. Above all politics, you have shown the ultimate resilience. Respect and love
@StSimonMartyr
That is called development. The road to sustenance is a long and hard one. As long as African leaders are minding the people and reforms are made to improve the country, we are happy to oblige them. I'd rather live poor among black equals than rich under the auspices of a white master.
I think it gets you when she said I'm African - who decided you should be black to be African - should youare be white to be English
It breaks my heart when a Black African do that to White African. This is disgusting. They are repeating that racism action the same way the Whites have done to them.
@Rawrlor I don't doubt it, there are plenty of states which engage in theft and pillage. They can also decide to butcher citizens, and they do sometimes, so what? And when a mob takes over a bunch of property, and then divvies it out to individuals afterwards - this is not reclamation, since the mob did not own the property, and the individuals who end up with it were not prior owners of each piece of property either.
I repeat, explain to me how property can be collectivity owned?
that is soooo true
These poor people. Rhodesia Will RISE AGAIN!!
@eansug If they bought them, yes.
@StSimonMartyr You couldn't be more correct. Black/white animosity grows without any reconciliation. The atrocities of this country cannot continue.
did u not listen to the video? when these people arrived there was nothing there- the land was bush. They were the ones that put in irrigation, planted the crops, imported machinary and built the farms. Once they were successful and productive they get taken away- in a lot of cases they did buy the land anyway.
@ toojohnny.......
I live in Drogheda......
13 years lather Zimbabwe is starving and their money is wort nothing , Land reform has work well.........socialism mixed to racism final results
Communism is racist... utterly anti-Aryan (European "White"). Guess who created communism within the City of London in 1848 Anno Domini?
@Rawrlor I don't know, same thing applies with Iran. You could completely isolate the countries of dictators, and the leadership wouldn't budge one bit. It is all politicians now how to do. And if you start arming and training democratic rebels (mimicking what China and Russia did in africa) to take over Zimbabwe and eject Mugabe, they may then become a junta. My personal opinion is that the country will never rebound, and further that South Africa will also slowly collapse.
Checking in 10 years later. Your informed pessimism still winning.
Bobbejaan klim die berg, so haastig en so lastig;
bobbejaan klim die berg, so haastig en so lastig;
bobbejaan klim die berg om die boere te vererg.
Hoera vir die jollie bobbejaan!
O moenie huil nie, o moenie treur nie, die Stellenbosse boys kom weer.
O moenie huil nie, o moenie treur nie, die Stellenbosse boys kom weer.
dolche mustard nice song!!!!
come to Canaduh. . . . .we will have you here. . . . .you can produce what u want and ur land won't be taken away by a Dictatorship. . .
@ralphk39 They emigrated or they invaded? You heard her say she can trace her roots back to the Dutch colonial period.
Last ot the Rhodies :(
This is just so wrong. Where is there humanity? You can't just force people to abandon their own farm. They have invested their own money , sweat and blood to make these farms progressive thus contributing to the local economy and yet the government has the nerve to treat then this way? We had similar agrarian reform laws in my country the Philippines. We call farms and ranches as haciendas. Most haciendas were owned by spanish or mestizos. Since the 1970s up to now, the government has been slowly upholding the agrarian reform law. Which buys the land property of the owner and then distributing it the local workers. Although there were some glitches but never did our government forced land owners to relinquish their land titles. It's a voluntary selling -buying relationship. The analogy is that, if you want to have a piece of land , you buy it like anybody else did. Mugabe ' s decision is all wrong and the will backfire to his own people sooner later with grave consequences. Mark my words.
+La'Velle Walker SHE didn't kill anyone idiot.
La'Velle Walker
The bill gets written off as a tax credit for the hospital. Point is..Stop living in the past, forget it, move on or you are the one who suffers.
La'Velle Walker
Try this..Say your ancestors owed a bill, you do not know any of these people and are not closely related to them at all, are you responsible to pay that bill, with interest?
+La'Velle Walker first of all don't call me silly. Second of all, you can't just hold anyone responsible for the mistakes of their ancestors. I believe that we are not liable for the wrongdoings of our ancestors. We can apologize on there behalf but never do we have to take accountability for that. My country was also a Spanish colony for 333 years, a Japanese occuppied territory in WW2 and an American territory for 50 years, so are you saying that I should hold hatred and vengeance towards every random Spaniard, Japanese and American person that I will meet in my entire life? No way! If you want that kind of life, then so be it. But always remember that not all people are as narrow minded as you.
La'Velle Walker you wanna know what's really silly? It's you! You are trying to correct a mistake with another mistake by harboring ill feelings towards the white descendants and keeping the desire to get even with your false justice and retribution. Asians like me were subjected to oppression and discrimination as well. But guess what? We moved on, worked hard and maintained close ties with our previous colonizers to maintain our economic foothold on them and vice versa. Its a two way street bro. You can play the victim card all you want but I am damn right that by 2015 we should have moved on and work together for the mutual benefit of everyone.
@phantomsuccour Sure! Just consign millions to suffering who could be saved, people who have no control of their destiny, who's only concern can ever be physical survival. The masses aren't responsible for their condition, they can't just gain education and a stable economy and democracy through sheer force of will. They need help, and it's the west's obligation to help them, for simple moral reasons. You can argue that we're not doing a good job, but you can't say it isn't worth doing.
@tothemax01
Redistribution is just.
The principle of Mugabe's actions are not in question, but rather the execution of his mandates. Better government policy with regards to land redistribution would have necessarily involved proper assessment and training of recipient farmers before any actual takeovers took place. Such a vetting process would have ensured only best farmers were given control of an important part of Zimbabwe's economic machine.
@vibrantkitty1 Actually it was discovered recently that India probably invented the first written language. The "Indus script" has never been deciphered to this day and predates all egyptian AND Mesopotamian writing. There is still no clear evidence whether sumerian writing or egyptian hieroglyphics came first either.
Thank you. Food for thought. But now I have to take the dog out. I look forward to talking to you later. And I don't care what colour, race, class or creed you are. Just to share.
Well I'm sure Dr Kissinger can explain the situation.
europe has always been more developed than africa so there never was vast tracks of unused land. In any case a lot of these white farmers bought land from Mugabe's goverment after 1980 when Zimbabwe was in black hands. Why do they have no right to the land? Mugabe was happy to sell it to them and then later on he takes it away once it was developed.
Not true, in the next 20 years Zimbabwe will become one of the first countries in the whole of Africa to have blacks who actually own their economy, the chains are broken and Whites are terrified. Black doctors, Black engineers, Black pilots, Black commercial farmers, Black Millionaires, Black entreprenuers. Scary for you I know. The most valuable resource for any nation is its people, and now Black Zimbabweans will be educated and wealthy. No racist laws and Sanctions cant stop us. What!!!!
funny pic.lololol!!
@kook2222 You forgot that british turned black as well...hehe..havent you been to London?? It looks like Zimbabwe...
I would love for Canada to take them as well, but unfortunately nowadays to even be considered to apply to remain in Canada you need to either be not of european descent or have one hell of an education. Asylum would be an option though. I believe Europe should take all these people back. What future they think they have there is beyond me.
BBC article "Zimbabwe land reform 'not a failure'" 17 November 2010
The 10 year study debunks five myths:
* That land reform has been a total failure
* That most of the land has gone to political "cronies"
* That there is no investment on the resettled land
* That agriculture is in complete ruins, creating chronic food insecurity
* That the rural economy has collapsed
The study found that about two-thirds of people who were given land were "ordinary -low income- Zimbabweans"
@StSimonMartyr
It's irrelevant. Even if blacks couldn't develop, there is something called self-determination that guarantees them their right to choose their own destiny.
Black Americans don't own any land in America and live below the poverty line. You are a blessed man.
Blacks do own land here. Lol what you talking about?
Anybody should be allowed to operate business anywhere regardless of there skin color, nationality or religion. .. free economy is the answer.
@Pindol1
All countries ruled by blacks are in Africa, which in itself is a difficult and unruly land to government. However, incase you have any doubts with regards to African leadership, look no further than African and African American CEOs of large companies.
@nirbija Enjoy your new found prosperity! LOL
@tothemax01 they didn't buy them. their grandfathers acquired them illigally during colonial rule. where everything was taking from poor black man with guns and unhuman laws such as apartheld. during that time white man multreated black man on his own motherland, taken them as slave and prisoners working for them. so my brother, President Mugabe is doing all this because of pains his people suffered in the hands of whiteman.
@Amalgamaite I agree with you, Zimbabwe could be a food factory -and should be a food factory- for all of Africa. But I know that crook Mugabe will just not let it happen.
This is why I say Mugabe is not in his right mind: he would rather see widespread hunger while farmland sits unused. The whites are just a tiny minority anyway so there really is no need to fret over them.
@Rawrlor Animals don't have the same right as human beings. Just because they can mimic our language doesn't mean they are human.
The stress is turning her hair grey
just like when a person of African decent is born in England, or Holland, or Germany, or the US, they are citizens of that country by international law.
The problwm is not citizenship by right of land thats why native americans have land by law in both USA and cananda i wonder why1
@nkiru61
Most westerners always refer to Zimbabwe as "Bread basket of Africa" when their European brethren were in control of the Zimbabwe's economy. Western media will never tell their audience that the Zimbabwe's agricultural economy was based on the "export of Tobacco". Yes, it was the no.1 source of Zimbabwe's income. I am sure you now have an idea how the loss of this export affected Western Tobacco companies. In retaliation they introduced sanctions under guise of human rights abuse.
Treble, I have to tell you. yah, this as it's a bit on the surreal side. I was in a fight on Tuesday night in a pub, yah, - defending someone else. So, a couple of months back, a mate of mine said I looked a dead-ringer for Harry Enfield playing some South African half-witted thug. I have to admit to a certain similarity, especially as I am sporting a wonderful crooked nose and black eye. Yah! It was a great night! You would have loved it!
The day of reconing will come i feel for u remember God is in controll.
I saw a documentary where "working class whites" in Zimbabwe were displaced from gov't jobs by blacks. These working class whites should assist the white farmers here so the farmers don't have to hire blacks- safer that way. And the displaced workers would have jobs.
I WISH I COULD HELP GUARD YOU. MISS.
SEND ANY WHITE SOUTH AFRICAN WOMEN. I BRING HER 2 USA.88AWB
+LONE WOLF ITALY/Ireland. The lady was my choir and piano teacher., really the kindest and most down to earth human you will ever meet
Is it the farmers fault that the road system is not kept up?
You should blame Ian Smith, lady. He declared UDI in 1965, and swore that the black man would never get the vote in a thousand years.
@tothemax01
And the sanctions do not harm Mugabe, but his people. No economic sanction ever harms "dictators"; they always live well. The US and EU know this, and simply impose these sanctions to force the Zimbabwe people into reviling and expelling Mugabe. If the US and EU persist in these sanctions, then they will only continue to perpetuate poverty and starvation.
Aside, reclaiming ownership works on both individual and collective level.
It doesn't matter if you agree or not.
There are Africans and descended of the oppressors or settlers, or invaders, and there is a huge difference there.
20 percent is even higher ownership.
God help these people
I just cant understand that people can fight civilisation
and prosperity. Seems like common sence is not so common anymore