Racial emotions aside, facts are still facts. The vast majority of Rhodesians/Zimbabweans, whether black, brown, or white had a much better quality of life in 1976 than they do in 2014.
Christian de Ravin Sanctions by Western racism has caused Zimbabwe to suffer. I am surer now than ever , justice will reverse the injustice of minority white rule. Some of you show a disregard for justice , your anger and hateful words will give way to weeping and sorrow if you continue down the road you now travel.
Allan Clay Oh please.....blame the West for all of Zimbabwe's ills.......why not tribalism, corruption and greed of its black leaders as well.......I wont deny that colonialism wasn't the start of this, but to blame all of Zimbabwe's current ills on Western sanctions is total and utter bullshit....
Abu Nour NO THEY DONT, ECONOMICS DO NOT TRUMP MORALITY. STEALING PEOPLES PEACEFUL WAY OF LIFE AND FORCING THEM TO ADOPT UNKNOWN ECONOMIC TRANSFORMATION WITHOUT A CENTRAL BANK ISNT AN ADVANCE, ITS ECONOMIC RAPE, AND TODAY IT WOULD NEVER EVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
Destroy white Europe!?! Utter crap. The immigrants will forge ahead and add to the European community if given a chance by the locals. A vast majority of those immigrants will start right at the bottom by working the shittest jobs that nobody else will bother doing, the type of graft most of us (in the west) feel is either below our station or education level. If you were offered new opportunity and a job in a new country after fleeing one that had either wiped out your entire family or was threatening to do so, you'd jump at the chance to thrive elsewhere. Not all of them will prosper but that's just the same with any society. Their further generations then adopt the new countries through their peers and so on. It's actually about helping people from oppressive regimes (just like Mugabe's and to a lesser extent Smith's) and not some paranoid anti-white conspiracy theory. PS Europe isn't even an absolute mix of races too.
+Rudyard Kipling Nah not communism, Sociology. Immigration is all around us. Every single person on this planet has originated or has ancestors who have originated from elsewhere. What would you suggest every white Rhodesian have done since 1980? Emigrate elsewhere or try stay afloat and rebel against a tyrannical power hungry donkey like Mugabe? Smith was either too slow, ignorant, conservative or early in his reign possibly too racist to allow for a lower class of people to be widely educated and given opportunity to think for themselves. As a result they got a power hungry nutter who was even worse who destroyed everything. That's the Rhodesian lesson.
Born 1974 the Zimbabwe i grew up in the 80s and 90s, when there was hope....this Zimbabwe now is unrecognisable,saddening and painful to bear.....cry my beloved motherland
@@CS88528 Bring back standards, too. Race aside, if you don't meet the standard, you don't qualify. For voting, for a job position, for whatever. Mismanagement through unintelligence solidified the downfall. You can be black and qualify, be white and not qualify, but when you destroy the system because you don't qualify - you destroy the country. Mugabe radicalized the less-intelligent to destroy their own land instead of becoming stronger, smarter, people. May he rot in hell, for spoiling the future of millions of souls.
I've always thought it weird they were called racist because there's plenty of pictures and videos of blacks working with whites in the govt and in the military etc. The powers that be still do that today. Look at how they have destroyed racial cohesion in the west especially the US. God help us.
As a Zimbabwean who once lived in Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe. I can tell you I am a self employed businessman and much better off than during the hell racist days of Rhodesia. Thanks to the policies of Robert Mugabe and Zanu pf
SummerSissle Do you live in Africa, or you just talk, without any knowledge of what is going on ? But as you wish, enjoy your second wave colonization. Unlike you, i have actually visited Zambia last year, and talked to local leaders, and they took me to the mines that are owned by Chinese investors. The workers work for petty wages, expose themselves to huge danger, because the mines have taken very low safety percautions, and than, after they are done mining, they take the ore to ports, ship it to China, where they process it, and pay taxes there, without helping in any way to Zambians. They do not support any local charity, they do not build any schools, infrastructure, nothing. I am done with you, you are obviously uninformed, biased and/or stupid.
@@yonasgeta8167 There's a big difference between leaving your country to build a new one in an unexplored land, and leaving your country because it's run by a people (in which you are apart of) who fail at running a basic society and have no business in running it. An also wanting to come to the country of the people you kicked out who ran it well, But now you have nothing because you can't create anything and never will, so you need them to leech off like the pathetic people you are!
"Who said the white man must go" you did before the rhodesian bush war, during the rhodesian bush war and your policies that banned white men from owning land.
Sir Mount Black people didn’t have democracy before Cecil Rhodes and the Rhodesians arrived. Withholding from them a tool they never had whilst they were able to be uplifted wasn’t taking away rights, they never had them previously.
Regardless of one's opinion of Rhodesia itself I thought this report was very professionally done. Sure, it was clear they were filming for an audience that was opposed to continuing white rule in Rhodesia but they asked tough questions to both Smith and Nkomo and at the end they properly assessed that the situation was complex with no easy answers instead of just reiterating things from their own viewpoint. Not only that, but pretty much every question in this segment was aimed at eliciting facts, the true nature of the situation there, instead of trying to paint a picture that fit a pre-determined narrative. I can't speak for Australia's current media but I know at least in America objectivity in media is an ideal that has since died, and is sorely missed. At least among those who still care, anyway.
Yes, all in all it is fair. I was born and bred in the country. My father was English and my mother a South African. However, most whites did not live in such luxurious houses as those shown in the documentary. In general, though, we were of course much better off than blacks, Coloureds (people of mixed race) and Asians.
The progressive propaganda of which you speak is real, but the answer is not to swing towards the equal and opposite extreme. The purpose of a documentary should be to provide information and allow the audience to come to their own conclusion, not just to filter facts to promote a narrative, be it left-wing or right-wing. Similarly, if progressive rhetoric has devolved into kneejerk reactions, namecalling, and sneers in lieu of arguments, the answer is not to try to avoid being outdone in terms of immaturity. That's the most basic mistake of the Alt-right crowd.
The silly side of this commentary was, that it was done by an Australian who’s own country was placing their own Aboriginals under server apartheid control at the same period of time and the Whites are still in control of New Zealand and Australia. The kettle calling the pot black.
***** What you apparently don't realize is that Mugabe didn't even properly follow is already flawed plan. Most of the land was given to government officials who either sold it or allowed it to decay. Those who actually farmed it were unable to produce as much as the previous owners, likely using them for subsidized agriculture instead. Not only did this affect the nation's food supply but foreign investment went down significantly due to fears of nationalization and simply government greed (which did occur, for that matter). That being said, no one's saying (except for those on the opposite side who saw apartheid as an act of god) that social problems weren't already there. But unlike Nelson Mandela who wisely led the nation as a whole, guaranteeing the current success of South Africa, Mugabe struck out against the farmers easily using them as a scapegoat while he and his cronies drove the nation into bankruptcy.
***** Excuse me for the late reply, but this is my explanation, albeit it's quite brief. Idi Amin was actually the dictator of Uganda, in case you confused it with former Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe). Whilst the president was out of the country Idi Amin led a coup d'etat, which was apparently popular with much of the populace. He did make promises to reinstate democracy, but alas, that didn't happen.
AXA,.i am irish and we had war with britain for 800 years to get freedom and independence. No matter What power and greed resulting in Poverty is universal UNLESS citizens are totally informed or educated. Africans seem to get leaders who are not good managers Because they only thing on their minds is to hold onto power for LIFE,.,.,.
***** I'd say that African and Middle Eastern nations generally weren't set up for bright futures from the start. From borders disregarding ethnic boundaries to the challenges of starting a nation in the first place. If the economies of Africa can be developed, then we'd have societies in which education can be paramount, rather than basic survival. Along with this democracy and republican governments should come more naturally.
Reporter: "give me some examples that proves Ian Smith is a Racist" Joshua Nkomo: "When, when . . . by, by, by . . . well first, the polices of his party are racist . . . (more slander irrelevant to the question)" Reporter (what he should have said): "You seriously can't think of a single example?" Politics haven't changed much.
Ian Smith was indeed racist mate. He literally said not in a 1000 years would a black person ever rule the country. His party never did anything to combat segregation. Joshua was the most sound and sane here, he just wanted both whites and blacks to live peacefully as a whole. Zimbabwe had a black majority so most likely black people would have more positions of power by natural selection and probability. Look at USA, of course more white people are in positions of power because they vastly outnumber blacks but the point is mo matter what colour the president is, they should put forward policies to uphold and better the lives of all people in the country regardless of gender, race or religion.
@@derrickkuwa I love how you literally missed out the second half of the quote: "Let me say it again. I don't believe in black majority rule ever in Rhodesia-not in a thousand years. I repeat that I believe in blacks and whites working together. If one day it is white and the next day it is black, I believe we have failed and it will be a disaster for Rhodesia." Source: en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ian_Smith
Stacey m I'm sure that the old racist has someone hand picked to carry on in the same corrupt fashion....ZANU-PF wont let go of their privileged position, of that you can be sure.....
***** Works both ways... keeps your utterly banal unproductive sponger lifestyle at bay from developing nations whose GDP improvement outstripped all of Europe . You jackass... you're a nothing and your beliefs will amount to the same.
IAN SMITH SERVED HIS COUNTRY AS A SOLDIER , SERVED HIS COUNTRY AS POLITICIAN , THAT'S RIGHT , SERVED HIS COUNTRY NOT HIMSELF . OTHER GOVERMENTS HATED THAT EXAMPLE ........... R.I.P SMITHY :(
Hold on now, he did not sell out his country and his people when the US and the UK threw millions his way? What kind of African ruler was he? No wonder he died in poverty while most African leaders die in style in Nice or the Amalfi Coast with an underage girl or two next to them and a cocaine straw up their nose.
@ Wonder boy tell this ball hanging ass. That's not his country. Even the reporter said it, they came to Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) not long ago. The Fucking nerves.
Alan Morris True, they were perfectly fine playing in the mud with their disease and flies and weird voodoo shit. If they are happy being third world, let them be.
Alan Morris If you want to come and build me a mansion I'm not going to complain and I'm certainly not going to tear it down and put a shack in it's place.
+Alan Morris You know Zimbabwe passed an act that gave a majority of all foreign and white owned businesses to natives? Is that racist? BTW they are still one of the biggest failed countries in history even after taking back the majority of everything earned by foreigners. Seems you Black Power advocates are all about violence and not about getting anywhere
Alan Morris Whites didn't rob anyone in Rhodesia and did you even watch this documentary? Black Rhodesians were not unfairly taxed. The majority of people fighting in the Rhodesian forces were black, too. You are applying a false generalization to this history. Sorry to say it, but you are too uneducated to speak on this topic. You're arguing about a scenario completely different from this one...how about you read up on history before making it up yourself and then complaining against something that didn't happen. Get a grip on reality you brainwashed fool
That goes to show how artificial of a "country" it was. Bunch of economic migrants turned some company land into a country and named it after the owner of the company that owned the land.
Fantastic documentary! What a nice country South Rhodesia was and what hellhole it turned into. Even Africans admit that living in "new" country is far worse than what it was.
As an American looking at the increasingly uneducated US populace, what you say terrifies me. Our democracy was never intended to deal with worthless high school drop outs and semi-illiterate immigrants from Latin America. We are next in line for collapse, unless we can refine our democracy to keep the garbage out.
Your country has been fucked over by Wall street bankers and capitol hill its the old men of Princeton and Harvard that sold the country down the sewer and took the world with it into the abyss of a world wide recession through Sub Prime mortgages. Most of the greatest minds have been college dropouts. Einstein and Lincoln to name a few. The worthless cling on to high school and religion because they have nothing else to keep them a float in the world.
+Chris Channer We did. The whole Western world sold them down the river, and ironically, South Africa did too. You think South Africa would have noticed that they would have been next and continued to support Rhodesia, but I guess they assumed they would buy themselves a few more years if they betrayed Rhodesia. Every single prediction of what would happen under majority rule occurred. Zimbabwe is now a living hell. From the breadbasket of Africa to 400000000% inflation. How sad. This is how the West dies.
+Dario Gagliano I AGREE WITH YOU...I AM SOUTH AFRICAN ...WAS A TEENAGER WHEN SA BETRAYED RHODESIA...I REMEMBER FEELING SO BETRAYED MYSELF THEN ...IT WAS SICK...IF WE HAD STOOD FIRM I RECKON TOGETHER WE WOPULD HAVE ALL EVOLVED MORE PEACEFULLY TO A TRULY CIVILISED FREE SUCCESSFUL DEMOCRACY TODAY INSTEAD OF THE TRAVESTY WE HAVE NOW...CECIL JOHN RHODES DREAM WOULD HAVE COME TRUE
how did a man who rebelliously declare independence from Britain give in to nationalism , Rhodesia had sworn to fight and it fought . They clashed with the guerrillas until they noticed that they are dying their army was thinning. when the nationalist army was reached the borders they opted for an agreement. their defeat was inevitable. The territory was taken by bloody force .
If Rhodesia went down the slow road, they’d be a Continental Power by now. Definitely a farming powerhouse, if not a technological and industrial giant. Sad for the country that ceased to exist before I was born.
The racial, societal and socioeconomic issues aside, the economy was solely based on farming, it stood a snowball's chance in Hell of becoming even a regional power.
Any modern politician would not side with the white Rhodesians, they would support the black nationalists...yet in our own white countries we should allow other races to come in and run our communities and culture. I don't think this is an exaggerated strawman by any means. I just could not see any electable politician go against this.
Thank you so much for posting this Mediumcool. As ever Smithy did not disappoint. He held himself well and spoke his mind, oh an how right he was. I miss him and Rhodesia so much, the world is a lesser place without them and there is not a politician alive with his honesty and integrity. But I suppose that I am one of the lucky few, I am Rhodesian and that is something that no one can take away from me.
That guy speaking Joshua Nkomo did himself also so he’s a liar. He’s also the one who gave the order for the civilian plane air Rhodesia 825 to be shot down with a strela 2 surface to air missile because it was full of white civilians and the ones that were still alive when it hit true ground were rounded up and massacred with automatic gun fire and bayonets including little children. I wish I was lying but look up air Rhodesia 825, absolutely terrible and yet he acts like he’s a decent person here.
The Communist method is to lie and lie and lie and lie until you cut a deal with them. Then they cut your throat. The only good communist is a dead one. We need more dead ones.
@@billygiles3276 Yes Joshua did horrible shit too but at the same time open your eyes and look at the root of the problem. These guys were pushed to the edge and at times forced to become monster because of how stubborn Ian Smith and his party were in just setting up a system that uplifts all citizens of the country regardless of race.
@Jordan LOL. Rhodesia was better for ALL inhabitants than Zimbabwe has ever been for ANY of its inhabitants. A classic case of the grass appearing greener on the other side of the fence. Wether the government was seemingly racist or not, they had the most beautiful civilized country in all of Africa, with fantastic schools, healthcare, and higher education. Now it’s a horrific slum. The black populace thought they would be better off without the white rhodesians “ruling” them. Well, they got what they wanted didn’t they? Absolute squalor and filth, starvation, no clean water or power let alone even basic hospitals. NeoLiberal anti racism policies turned the breadbasket of Africa into the basket case. I bet living in Somalia is a better experience nowadays. Sad.
I wish the ANC government in South Africa (and also by the way the US government) would listen to leader of the black nationalists in Rhodesia who said (18:44) : "once a party and the leaders of a party express their views in terms of white and in terms of black then those people are racists".
rest in peace smithy, I met you at a ceremony in 1978 at the thornton barricks. I had just come over from australia and transfered to the RAF. I didn't even lose my rank!. My sqd leader was the fabled 'Green leader". I was on his 8'clock in a canberra during the zambian raid. RIP both of you great men!. Memories for ever!.
Very interesting. Seems Ian Smith really grasped the issue of citizens needing to have a certain level of education in order to be able to vote. I guess that's why Mugabe managed to rule as a dictator for nearly 4 decades.
@@angusyates828they have an average IQ of 75, that can't be fixed overnight. When the average person is clinically retarded, do you think they can do anything complex like run a government?
I worked in Zambia from 1973-1976 and visited Rhodesia many times between 1974-1980. I had a coloured Rhodesian girl-friend so obviously I'm no racist, although that was not acceptable to many whites at the time. A most beautiful and well-run country. However, I thought then and still do now that Ian Smith's constant repetition of the upholding standards mantra was a fools errand. If more concessions had been made earlier on to accommodate black aspirations, I think this would have resulted in a better outcome. Forty years later I returned twice to visit Zimbabwe and was so saddened to see the collapse both politically and economically. But I still love the place and wish them well.
@@vanya628 I'm afraid you may be right. But there was at least a chance that a more centrist inclusive government would emerge, rather than the Marxists. Then again, tribal rivalries would probably have taken over.
I am a White American of Italian and Portuguese Ancestry . I do not see what is hilarious about a guy saying that His Girlfriend was Black and therefore He is not racist. I feel that is accurate. In My own family there has never been the hatred toward blacks that say member’s of white supremacist groups like the KKK have. I grew up with Black friends and worked with blacks in Our family owned construction business. My Dad would hang out with Black Guys who worked for us at Our home drinking Highballs and beer shooting the Bull. I married My first Wife knowing She had Two young Daughters who are 1/2 Black. I put up with unsavory remarks from My Dad and Brother both of whom I love and still do although My Dad passed away years ago after My second Marriage, that too, He did not approve of and both of My second wife’s Boys are White. One of the older Black Guys who worked with Me said “ Son thats just His Way, He really don’t mean nothin by it. He is just old school same as Me. We Blacks are the same way. Kind Prefer Kind , Its all understood”.
@@pelonehedd7631 1) the use of his supposed girlfriend as basically a disclaimer as to how much of a non-racist he is, has me convinced that she either never existed, or that their relationship was not something normal people would describe as "boyfriend and girlfriend". 2) being cordial to people who work for you is not as powerfull a statement as you seem to think. 3) if your family isn't racist, why would they make unsavory comments about your wife and her mixed kids? 4) why do americans, more than any others, feel the need to preface their comments by announcing their nationality, skin color and ancestry?
It brings a smile to my face when they interviewed Ian Smith in this video. The unfortunate reality of a man that tried as hard as he could to retain a good country.
So what if they were a minority? Just because you belong to a demographic majority doesn’t mean anything. The proof is in the pudding, as they say. It took the majority less than 20 years to destroy what they inherited. Enough with applying modern PC nonsense to a situation 45-odd years ago; the plain fact is that Ian smith was right. The majority were simply incapable of leaving old tribal feuds behind and embracing modern means of government. If you doubt me, feel free to take a trip to Zimbabwe now. Rhodesia hasn’t been a thing for long enough that the present majority has no one to blame but themselves for their current situation.
Smithy , a man of integrity , World War ll Fighter Pilot , Farmer , Statesman and our Prime Minister of a once prosperous , friendly nation of Rhodesia , who thumbed his nose at No # 10 Downing St . Who feared god , but not the marxist communist guerrillas . We salute you sir & God bless :( R.I.P : Right Hon : Ian Douglas Smith / PM of Rhodesia - Born : April 19 , 1919 Passed : November 20 , 2007 Trots Rhodesie te wees 100% , Rhodesiers nooit sterf !!!! Groete van Australie !
This is the wife writing! Nkoma was responsible for the shooting down of two Viscount planes killing all but a few. The passengers were all holiday makers. Ian Smith, after Mugabe took over, went into Gwelo for shopping and was seen by local black people who placed him on their shoulders and carried him around shouting for him to take the country back. Rhodesia was God's own country.
Bruce MacAllister - you're spot on, mate....I remember taking holidays from the UK to Rhodesia to visit fam in Avondale...It always struck us that people of all races got on quite well together in daily life -- despite media rubbish to the contrary. What a beautiful, prosperous country (it was).
@@sjx3516 happier knowing they had at least something keeping the reds out, villagers for thousands of years had fences or palisades, the modern equivalent of which is a chain link fence.
@@sjx3516 It was the communists they were being protected from you knob. Miss the part where the commies cut ears off of men and force fed them to their wives? Get a grip on reality.
Seems fairly unbiased reporting. At one point the reporter admits that the standard of living in Rhodesia is higher than any black ruled African country to the north. I visited in the 1970's and there was peace between Africans working with whites and all seemed to get on well. No servants killing the master and so forth - in fact a great deal of trust and goodwill. In hindsight we now know those Africans were more than happy compared how it is under Communist Mugabe, where millions have fled the country, something that never happened under Smith.. Funny how things go round and round.
Don't think most of those who have fled are using passports. They get into South Africa illegally, a number swimming the Limpopo, some eaten by croc's.
I was one of the whites livening in Rhodesia, my earnings was earning R$40 a month the houses shown were rich whites houses not the average whites, there were a lot of black people training with the whites in Bulawayo, this is not all correctly documented. I was called up for military duty under Ian Smith and under Bishop Muzarewa whom we whites respected
@@henringallikingue910 I was born in Zimbabwe (Rhodesia) grew up in three different countries but left Zimbabwe because there was not work. I still love Zimbabwe, but have settled in Australasia.
@@nicksmith7975 so you re zimbawean from rhodesian descent and i think your are australo-zimbawean. I just curious because i'm french and cameroonian so african european😀 I didn't know about the rhodesian .
the period u are talking of was a period of compromise following the heat of war and nationalist pressure. even the rank policy restricted blacks fro having commissioned ranks. it was clearly metioned in history that coz of the lower population of whites they had to take commanding roles to avoid cassualties and then train the blacks as foot solders to be commaded by th white officers
Love you Ian Smith, you and the country as a whole drew a line in the sand which you stood for. Long live the memory of Rhodesia and those black and white, that fought for it.
@vanya ummm not true at all. Gardens not so much, farms yes. My point is the hypocrisy of Australians who criticise African colonies where morally we are in exactly the same situation, albeit with a much much much smaller indigenous population. Naturally this means the conflict between colonist and coloniser is much more one sided and hence less obvious in Australia. Aside from all of that, I was referring to living conditions. And I can attest to the fact that there are many indigenous Australians who right now are living to a much lesser standard to that shown of indigenous Africans in Rhodesia in the 70s.
It's kinda annoying hearing this fellow Australia criticize a fellow nation like Rhodesia who were much kinda to blacks in this time than we ever were to Abos here
All in all, this is a very interesting documentary about the country in which I was born and bred and where my South African grandparents (who moved to Rhodesia in the 1950s) lived on their farm throughout the Bush War. In particular, I like the honesty of the member of the Rhodesian Light Infantry who states that he is fighting to protect his country and to keep it white. Many other Rhodesians felt exactly the same, myself included. The idea, sometimes put forward, that most whites were perfectly happy with the concept of handing the country over to the blacks in due course, as long as they were not Communists, is a great distortion of the truth.
Problem with all of this is that they invaded and took over a country that is nuts could you imagine if that happened to you now try and seriously think about it.
Glen Dodds -- Yes I agree. As an outsider visiting Rhodesia many times in the 1970s, my impression was that the great majority of whites did not accept black majority rule at any price. They wanted to protect their comfortable life-style with black servants.
@@roccodon5781except they didn't. Rhodesia is a unique case in European colonialism in Africa. The original European settlers made friendly contracts with King Lobengula. The Whites stuck to their side, the Matabele did not, they turned on the Europeans as well as on the Shona, who the Matabele harassed and frequently enslaved. The Whites put a stop to that. They defended themselves against the Matabele and won, so they retained control of the land that they had gained through a purely defensive posture.
I was born in Rhodesia and left just before the Mugabe elections. I still consider myself a white Rhodesian. My parents did not have a house as shown in this video; theirs was more like that owned by the taxi driver. I miss my ex countrymen including all my black friends who are going through so much these days. Add that is what we fought for - not privilege but to prevent a dictator like Mugabe taking over. After all these years, we were proved right.
Hong Kong; the Chinese city the British occupied because the Chinese wouldn't let them traffic drugs into China. Better CCP rule than that old hag the queen anyway, despite the love affair that modern day fake conservatives on both sides of the pond have with her.
Excellent documentary on 1976 Rhodesia. With knowing their astounding success during those years, such a back drop of knowledge helps to understand that the 'racial' problems were not the forefront as the reporter wants you to believe, but the war instigated by the marxists guerrillas supported by the USSR. By '76, all men 35 and younger had to serve to fight for their nation. Sadly, the US elected Jimmy Carter as president that November who turned his back on Rhodesia and thus nearly zero western help arrived. Mugabe entered and the lives of those young men interviewed at the end were sacrificed at the alter of foolish hatred of liberalism who will, in turn, be sacrificed on the alter of marxism. Ian Smith was right, so very prophetically right. You liberals who love the mantra of racism will one day discover that your beloved Marxism is indeed the most vile of racists from whom you will not survive.
Родезия объявила независимость от Англии. Это и было причиной эмбарго от политической изоляции Родезии. Ну и ЮжноАфриканскую республику уничтожил не марксизм, а именно США и западная Европа. Просто уничтожили возможных конкурентов на мировом рынке.
The South African speaking at the end saying that change would happen in two years was a lot closer to reality than the Rhodesian saying it would be at least 20 years. Funny thing is that in less than 20 years South Africa itself had majority rule.
90% unemployment in Zimbabwe at the moment, Noah couldn't drive a taxi even if he wanted to! I am Australian and this is the work of our disgusting taxpayer funded national broadcaster the ABC. It exists on the hard earned dollars of Australian tax dollars to lecture and hector us, promote the breakdown of the family unit and encourage our complicity in destruction of our own racial and cultural heritage. Please DO NOT BE LED by the non professional commentary but make up your own mind. This broadcaster has been investigated recently via a Royal Comission for constantly straying away from their charter and failing to remain impartial.
"whites run Africa, how did most Africans benefit?" Here’s a few tangible examples of how African lives improved living under British governance. End of slavery, end tribal warfare & capricious deaths at hands of chiefs, entry into modern economic world, improved standards of living, and explosive growth in populations, doubling of lifespans. These all fruits of modern government. Compare just look at what has happened since independence all in reverse except population growth
When Ian says he wants certain standards for enfranchisement, It's not racist or wrong. If you don't know anything about how a government is run why should you be able to vote? That is why there is a minimum age limit for voting. How are people who are just beginning to know how to read and write expected to make an educated choice on voting in a government? With a little more time I feel that Rhodesia would have been very successful. Giving power to people that have never had control of anything bigger than a village, who are uneducated in modern economics and politics is going to end poorly. But no, the fat African communist in the nice suit is right. It's all the white man's fault.
jamiemcf1 though I agree with the sentiment, consider the intellect of the average American on political issues, or even the geography of their nation yet they are permitted to vote and participate. That's the inherent snag with democracy, its implicit egalitarianism means everybody gets to vote, whether they destroy themselves in the process its their right. The argument that need have been had was whether these terribly young, terribly volatile african states where ready for democracy. But if history tells us anything its, no matter how benevolent an occupying minority is , it cannot reign over a relatively impoverished indigenous majority.
Mobutu Sese Seko Nkuku Ngbendu I understand, but Americans have the chance to study their government and politics and most choose not to which is a shame. It's the same here in Britain, but the difference is that the vast majority of Africans didn't have the access to that knowledge. I think a lot of African nations like Uganda for instance wanted their Independence from Europeans but just didn't know what to do with it and were swindled by charismatic men who did poorly in improving things. I think both white and black should forgive each other for wrong doings done in Africa by both sides and work together to build a better Africa.
jamiemcf1 yeah, its a pitiful situation, I just get annoyed by the condescending paternalistic attitude employed by Smith, and the horde of benighted souls on any comment section of this, and similar videos. Africans were victims of occupation, who often get unfairly blamed for the fallout from this unfortunate scenario and in so belittling the complexities of their narrative, the true problems are never identified and resolved. I'm not for pointing the finger at anyone, just for honest reflection. The Rhodesia experience failed because Smith and his ilk failed to recognize the blacks as people just like themselves, a commonality whenever there exists a wealth or educational gap that large between any group. One does fail to see his 'lessers' as even being members of the same species in that circumstance. otherwise their grievance would have been understandable and dealt with accordingly. But the simple fact is Smith was fighting to maintain white privilege, the blacks were merely peripheral. And who in good conscience wouldn't revolt immediately.
Mobutu Sese Seko Nkuku Ngbendu I think you're being too simple in your view. The bush war wasn't about black v white. It was about Communism. 2/3's of the Rhodesian army were black and there was no conscription. Did Ian Smith want whites to stay in power? Yes he did. But It's not like the whites were introducing apartheid like South Africa. I've seen footage of white and black soldiers sitting side by side with no prejudice telling that they are fighting to keep Rhodesia free of communism, not that it was a racial war. South Africa was harsh in It's treatment of Blacks, Rhodesia was not oppressive but seemed so due to the wealth gap. But so did every colonised country at the time. I just think Ian realised that it was still a relatively new nation that needed Educated guidance for a while longer to maintain and progress further as a nation before the gap between black and whites was shortened. It's like you're building a car from scratch, you've got most of it finished, all the essentials. But when you get made sell it before it's done and the new owner drives it before it's ready, It brakes down. It's not just the colour of someone's skin but the education they possess. If you'd built a country known as the bread basket of Africa, with the highest living standard in the continent and saw countries like the Congo given to the people only for it to crumble, would you let it happen? I'm not saying they shouldn't have shortened the gap, but just that they tried before they were ready. And that has lead to a corrupt, racist Zimbabwe with people suffering, both black and white.
jamiemcf1 oh I have to totally disagree there, the myth of the benevolent occupier is hot fancy..I honestly am shocked by the assertion that the average black soldier in the Rhodesia army could be believed to have understood communism enough to articulate his distrust of it, I doubt very much Mugabe even did, and am pretty sure he just played that up for the guns anyways. But all that is besides the point, indulge me in a simple thought experiment, if your land had been occupied, and the people who occupied your land a small minority lived in a luxury that you living in abject poverty only got to watch play out, granted you have health care and running water, would you feel it was just. Would you honestly stand for it? Note i don't put much stock in the ideas of nationality, race etc..but to deny these people the basic human function of a sense of justice is egregious. To ask that of any people would run counter to every instance of occupation in history. I'm actually confounded as to how that stance can be intelligible. The Rhodesian experience was one in which 6million indigenous souls lived in dignified poverty while a quarter of a million recent arrivals, who had secured the best for themselves lived in languorous ease. So these people were supposed to just watch, and be told that one day your lives will be better,we are doing this for you..now mow the lawn, and accept it. you would accept that..? You wouldn't at least try to change your circumstance..?
In 1978 I was earning 1.50 dollars an hour as a nurse. Two dollars at night-shift.My first flat had one room, a small kitchen and a bathroom. My rent was 45 dollars a month. Later I moved into a garden cottage, one room, bathroom, very small kitchen, rent was 80 dollars a month including breakfast and laundry. Most whites didn't live in those mansions, which I don't recognise which neighbour this is? Many whites lived in apartment blocks or in small houses. My landlord was an black Rhodesian.
The issue that nobody was prepared to confront, was that Rhodesian politics were tribal, at this time it was controlled by the white tribe, when democracy was introduced, it was Mugabe's tribe being the largest that took control and dismantled democracy and treated those who were not from the right tribe with brutall persecution, this was the inevitable reality of introducing democracy to this political environment and we were nieve to think it was going to end in any other way.
"Rhodesians coming over the border from zambia and mozambique" Hmmm something tells me they were not rhodesians if they came from zambia and mozambique
I would be really interested to know what had happened to a lot of the people interviewed in this. Did that cab driver see his fortunes improved? Did those troopies survive the war?
@francisnewlandnewland OK, why should people outside of Zimbabwe learn about a failed state that existed for only a couple decades? Five thousand years of human history; why prioritize something that had no impact outside of the country where it existed?
Zimbabwe is the most beautiful place in the world to me. Black or white means nothing to me. Being Zimbabwean is my proudest attribute. As a nation we suffer black and white alike. It's just a very sad state. I believe peace is possible, very difficult but possible. I hope to live in a Zim or at least, one day, raise my children in a Zim where equality truly exits nationwide..
The presenter/interviewer is extremely blinkered & biased. He should have compared the conditions of the blacks in Rhodesia to the conditions in Ghana, Nigeria, Uganda, etc., and he'd have seen that Smith was doing a very good job.
Overall this is a good documentary. It was of course made in 1976 and the presenter is thus wrong when he states that for over four years now Rhodesians have been fighting guerrillas who come across the border from Zambia or Mozambique." The war had in fact started in 1964 and the first significant clash happened at Sinoia in April 1966. The guerrillas were defeated on that occasion and fared badly in subsequent encounters with Rhodesia's small but highly efficient security forces. Consequently, by the close of the 1960s the war had died down and only really got under way again in late 1972. During the documentary, Ian Smith was asked whether he expected military support from South Africa if the conflict worsened and gave a diplomatic reply. As is well known, by 1976 he was in fact coming under pressure from President Vorster of South Africa to come to terms with moderate black opponents. On the other hand, what is less well known is that South Africa had been helping Rhodesia's war effort for many years. Indeed, ground forces and members of the South African Air Force had been playing a role in the war since the 1960s. Moreover, after this documentary was made the war became increasingly intense and South Africa (which was fighting in Namibia and Angola as well, a conflict that had started in 1966 and would continue until 1989) stepped up its involvement in Rhodesia, especially after P.W. Botha succeeded Vorster as president. For example, D company of the Rhodesian SAS was in fact the cover name for members of the South African special forces fighting alongside their Rhodesian counterparts. In addition, the South African Air Force took part in a number of joint cross-border operations and among the members of the SADF who lost their lives were the three-strong crew of a Puma helicopter shot down in September 1979 while carrying members of the Rhodesian Light Infantry, all of whom were likewise killed. The war ended two months later.
Very true, I bet. Nice roads with no potholes, a well maintained work vehicle, steady income, shops well stocked, free medical, no power cuts, clean running water, safe environment for his children, etc, etc.
At least they had functioning country with honest and responsible government and one of the best economies in Africa along with gaddafis Libya and South Africa. Now they are just another failed African state thanks to western betrayal and communist corruption with 90% unemployment. It’s a complete tragedy.
I find it highly amusing the way in Nkomo is portrayed. This Australian journalist is either ignorant, or playing ignorant. Nkomo was well documented committing atrocities against his own people and those who opposed him. Ironically, Mugabe massacred Nkomo's soldiers and Nkomo fled new Zimbabwe for exile fearing his life. It is interesting to watch this (my family left Zimbabwe for Australia where I was born) to see mid-war opinions. Thanks for uploading!
Nkomo calling Ian Smith a racist is a joke - Smith didn't slaughter thousands of Nkomo's Ndebele tribesmen, which Mugabe, leader of the rival Shona tribe, did soon after he obtained power.
MOst of the "black suburbs" were in a better shape than many of parts Spain on the 60-70's on Franco dictatorship lol. IN Europe not Africa. And I am from Spain.
Rhodesians were not as bad as the commentator is reading from his script. We had our short comings, yet we cared more for the Africans of all tribes in comparing today’s leadership to the Rhodesian period. Today we see what we knew was going to happen, only those close to the leaders get special treatment.
It must have been humiliating for the black guys you see pouring tea for the white guys, knowing the whites feel superior to you. So I get why they rebelled. That doesn't mean what succeeded it was any better though.
Read Alexandra Fuller's books. She grew up during the Bush War. Her parents were definitely racist. The entire Ian Smith govt was against majority rule. Of course they were racist.
If you're telling the truth (I get the feeling you are) I'd love to ask you a few questions some time. For reasons unknown, I've always been fascinated with Rhodesia & to a lesser extent, in the S. African "Bush War"/border war with Angola. So did you see any combat? I bet you have some amazing stories. I wish there was more information available. Specifically, some good documentaries on Rhodesia & their military. I've read that Rhodesian light Infantry was among the world's best.
I love Rhodesia even though I come from a country as distant as Poland. Rhodesian history and how you were betrayed reminds the story of my own country. I've never even been to Africa, but I wish I could see Rhodesia again.
Racial emotions aside, facts are still facts. The vast majority of Rhodesians/Zimbabweans, whether black, brown, or white had a much better quality of life in 1976 than they do in 2014.
...and Rhodesia was heavily sanctioned but life was still good. Indeed, it was a the 'basket of Africa'. Now it's the basket case.
Christian de Ravin Sanctions by Western racism has caused Zimbabwe to suffer. I am surer now than ever , justice will reverse the injustice of minority white rule. Some of you show a disregard for justice , your anger and hateful words will give way to weeping and sorrow if you continue down the road you now travel.
Allan Clay more one worm!
Allan Clay Oh please.....blame the West for all of Zimbabwe's ills.......why not tribalism, corruption and greed of its black leaders as well.......I wont deny that colonialism wasn't the start of this, but to blame all of Zimbabwe's current ills on Western sanctions is total and utter bullshit....
Abu Nour NO THEY DONT, ECONOMICS DO NOT TRUMP MORALITY. STEALING PEOPLES PEACEFUL WAY OF LIFE AND FORCING THEM TO ADOPT UNKNOWN ECONOMIC TRANSFORMATION WITHOUT A CENTRAL BANK ISNT AN ADVANCE, ITS ECONOMIC RAPE, AND TODAY IT WOULD NEVER EVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
Shit, this guy made $35 a week but his rent is only $7. Rent is only 20% of his income, by today's standards that is pretty good.
You are wrong. BBC has been distributed to the Zimbabwe War veterans.
+Rudyard Kipling this isn't the BBC. Its from an Australian show called 4corners.
Destroy white Europe!?! Utter crap. The immigrants will forge ahead and add to the European community if given a chance by the locals. A vast majority of those immigrants will start right at the bottom by working the shittest jobs that nobody else will bother doing, the type of graft most of us (in the west) feel is either below our station or education level. If you were offered new opportunity and a job in a new country after fleeing one that had either wiped out your entire family or was threatening to do so, you'd jump at the chance to thrive elsewhere. Not all of them will prosper but that's just the same with any society. Their further generations then adopt the new countries through their peers and so on. It's actually about helping people from oppressive regimes (just like Mugabe's and to a lesser extent Smith's) and not some paranoid anti-white conspiracy theory. PS Europe isn't even an absolute mix of races too.
+Rudyard Kipling Nah not communism, Sociology. Immigration is all around us. Every single person on this planet has originated or has ancestors who have originated from elsewhere. What would you suggest every white Rhodesian have done since 1980? Emigrate elsewhere or try stay afloat and rebel against a tyrannical power hungry donkey like Mugabe? Smith was either too slow, ignorant, conservative or early in his reign possibly too racist to allow for a lower class of people to be widely educated and given opportunity to think for themselves. As a result they got a power hungry nutter who was even worse who destroyed everything. That's the Rhodesian lesson.
+Rudyard Kipling this fixation with being left has nowt to do with it. It's been happening since day dot mate and isn't stopping anytime soon.
Born 1974 the Zimbabwe i grew up in the 80s and 90s, when there was hope....this Zimbabwe now is unrecognisable,saddening and painful to bear.....cry my beloved motherland
I’m sorry to hear that.
What do you think the solution is?
@@CS88528 Bring back standards, too. Race aside, if you don't meet the standard, you don't qualify. For voting, for a job position, for whatever. Mismanagement through unintelligence solidified the downfall. You can be black and qualify, be white and not qualify, but when you destroy the system because you don't qualify - you destroy the country. Mugabe radicalized the less-intelligent to destroy their own land instead of becoming stronger, smarter, people. May he rot in hell, for spoiling the future of millions of souls.
so sorry
That is being objective we all wanted freedom but not this kind of freedom as the loyerlist call.
I've always thought it weird they were called racist because there's plenty of pictures and videos of blacks working with whites in the govt and in the military etc. The powers that be still do that today. Look at how they have destroyed racial cohesion in the west especially the US. God help us.
Rhodesia was a great country. Once.
As a former Rhodesian I couldn't agree more and was once known as the bread basket of Africa.
As a Zimbabwean who once lived in Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe. I can tell you I am a self employed businessman and much better off than during the hell racist days of Rhodesia. Thanks to the policies of Robert Mugabe and Zanu pf
@@mr.f.j.vandervyver9606 it was a bread basket for the leeches, not for the indigenous people.
@@AA-ek5kz Obviously you were not around then.
No the fuck it wasn't that country was treating black people like crap
So, Zimbabweans, now you're happy with your independence?
sergiuszkiev Yes, we do so stop bitching cave dweller.
sergiuszkiev They're literally BEGGING white farmers to come back
LOL!
sergiuszkiev Yes
***** Robert Mugabe, stop hiding your identity, I know it's you!
SummerSissle Do you live in Africa, or you just talk, without any knowledge of what is going on ? But as you wish, enjoy your second wave colonization. Unlike you, i have actually visited Zambia last year, and talked to local leaders, and they took me to the mines that are owned by Chinese investors.
The workers work for petty wages, expose themselves to huge danger, because the mines have taken very low safety percautions, and than, after they are done mining, they take the ore to ports, ship it to China, where they process it, and pay taxes there, without helping in any way to Zambians.
They do not support any local charity, they do not build any schools, infrastructure, nothing.
I am done with you, you are obviously uninformed, biased and/or stupid.
I'm an American who fought as a Rhodesian Light Infantry trooper from April 1976 --April 1980 and I don't regret it one bit.
God bless you.
In the Crippled Eagles?
God bless you
your efforts were put to waste
@@thabani1937 doesn’t make them wrong or unjustified
Well, black africans got their wish. And ever since then they've been risking their lives to leave. How ironic.
Cross Roads Productions cancer doesn't spread like that, now if you said Ebola or the flu that would of been a better
why do u think the white people came to African because they were poor . nobody want to go away from home
@@yonasgeta8167 There's a big difference between leaving your country to build a new one in an unexplored land, and leaving your country because it's run by a people (in which you are apart of) who fail at running a basic society and have no business in running it.
An also wanting to come to the country of the people you kicked out who ran it well, But now you have nothing because you can't create anything and never will, so you need them to leech off like the pathetic people you are!
@@danielcucumber2027 Yes, cancer spreads like that
White people were so incompetent they lost control of a country they dominated and now they impotently cry thousands of miles away. Good riddance.
Always amazed me that during the height of the cold war, the one country that was directly and openly fighting communism was so betrayed by the west.
Israel supported it. also fought other comunist backed militaries themselves. the west sold itself out and betrayed itself.
@@nyuki187 proof?
@@nyuki187 True, but only after the short live love period with african dictators it had through the 50s to early 60s
Yeah UK will get what they fucking deserve. That's why I sympathize with Scotland and Wales.
@@sirkikesteinshekelberg9091 well that was the dumbest thing I've read in a while
27:50 "you're not fighting terrorists anymore you're fighting communists..." no truer words.
Truer would be "you are fighting to protect white privileges", Malcolm X was assassinated in the United States for the same reasons.
@@Kriegerdammerung You missed the point by miles mate
@@davidlopez6703 How can telling the truth could be missing the point? their false point yes
They still are terrorist
That whole exchange between the two guys sums up the mindset of white government vs the outside world.
Forgets to mention over 80% of the Rhodesian Military was Black.
But the soldier literally said that he was fighting to keep the country white.
@@gottiku no
As I know it was 70% black
@@gottiku I don’t think he was brightest Rhodesian specimen
There were black soldiers fighting for Confederates. Doesnt make it right
"Who said the white man must go"
you did before the rhodesian bush war, during the rhodesian bush war and your policies that banned white men from owning land.
They should have let black people vote.
@@sirmount2636 eye for an eye then?
Cardboard Don’t oppress people and expect them to be friendly. Don’t spit in a man’s mouth and ask why he doesn’t smile at you.
Sir Mount Black people didn’t have democracy before Cecil Rhodes and the Rhodesians arrived. Withholding from them a tool they never had whilst they were able to be uplifted wasn’t taking away rights, they never had them previously.
Dingdong They controlled their own destiny. Don’t try to justify slavery & suggest that slavery & murder is “uplifting.”
Regardless of one's opinion of Rhodesia itself I thought this report was very professionally done. Sure, it was clear they were filming for an audience that was opposed to continuing white rule in Rhodesia but they asked tough questions to both Smith and Nkomo and at the end they properly assessed that the situation was complex with no easy answers instead of just reiterating things from their own viewpoint. Not only that, but pretty much every question in this segment was aimed at eliciting facts, the true nature of the situation there, instead of trying to paint a picture that fit a pre-determined narrative. I can't speak for Australia's current media but I know at least in America objectivity in media is an ideal that has since died, and is sorely missed. At least among those who still care, anyway.
Yes, all in all it is fair. I was born and bred in the country. My father was English and my mother a South African. However, most whites did not live in such luxurious houses as those shown in the documentary. In general, though, we were of course much better off than blacks, Coloureds (people of mixed race) and Asians.
The progressive propaganda of which you speak is real, but the answer is not to swing towards the equal and opposite extreme. The purpose of a documentary should be to provide information and allow the audience to come to their own conclusion, not just to filter facts to promote a narrative, be it left-wing or right-wing.
Similarly, if progressive rhetoric has devolved into kneejerk reactions, namecalling, and sneers in lieu of arguments, the answer is not to try to avoid being outdone in terms of immaturity. That's the most basic mistake of the Alt-right crowd.
Ryan Heath...you are correct. I am black and I live in Zimbabwe. I am a proud Africa nation and would embrace all races
Agreed. You don't get this kind of objective journalism anymore.
The silly side of this commentary was, that it was done by an Australian who’s own country was placing their own Aboriginals under server apartheid control at the same period of time and the Whites are still in control of New Zealand and Australia. The kettle calling the pot black.
Now Mugabe can personally ensure that the situation worsens.
***** What you apparently don't realize is that Mugabe didn't even properly follow is already flawed plan. Most of the land was given to government officials who either sold it or allowed it to decay. Those who actually farmed it were unable to produce as much as the previous owners, likely using them for subsidized agriculture instead. Not only did this affect the nation's food supply but foreign investment went down significantly due to fears of nationalization and simply government greed (which did occur, for that matter).
That being said, no one's saying (except for those on the opposite side who saw apartheid as an act of god) that social problems weren't already there. But unlike Nelson Mandela who wisely led the nation as a whole, guaranteeing the current success of South Africa, Mugabe struck out against the farmers easily using them as a scapegoat while he and his cronies drove the nation into bankruptcy.
111axa1 ALWAYS WONDER HOW IDI AMIN GOT INTO POWERK,
***** Excuse me for the late reply, but this is my explanation, albeit it's quite brief.
Idi Amin was actually the dictator of Uganda, in case you confused it with former Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe). Whilst the president was out of the country Idi Amin led a coup d'etat, which was apparently popular with much of the populace. He did make promises to reinstate democracy, but alas, that didn't happen.
AXA,.i am irish and we had war with britain for 800 years to get freedom and independence.
No matter What power and greed resulting in Poverty is universal UNLESS citizens are totally informed or educated.
Africans seem to get leaders who are not good managers Because they only thing on their minds is to hold onto power for LIFE,.,.,.
***** I'd say that African and Middle Eastern nations generally weren't set up for bright futures from the start. From borders disregarding ethnic boundaries to the challenges of starting a nation in the first place.
If the economies of Africa can be developed, then we'd have societies in which education can be paramount, rather than basic survival. Along with this democracy and republican governments should come more naturally.
Reporter: "give me some examples that proves Ian Smith is a Racist"
Joshua Nkomo: "When, when . . . by, by, by . . . well first, the polices of his party are racist . . . (more slander irrelevant to the question)"
Reporter (what he should have said): "You seriously can't think of a single example?"
Politics haven't changed much.
Nihil sub sole novum
Ian Smith was indeed racist mate. He literally said not in a 1000 years would a black person ever rule the country. His party never did anything to combat segregation.
Joshua was the most sound and sane here, he just wanted both whites and blacks to live peacefully as a whole. Zimbabwe had a black majority so most likely black people would have more positions of power by natural selection and probability. Look at USA, of course more white people are in positions of power because they vastly outnumber blacks but the point is mo matter what colour the president is, they should put forward policies to uphold and better the lives of all people in the country regardless of gender, race or religion.
@@derrickkuwa I love how you literally missed out the second half of the quote: "Let me say it again. I don't believe in black majority rule ever in Rhodesia-not in a thousand years. I repeat that I believe in blacks and whites working together. If one day it is white and the next day it is black, I believe we have failed and it will be a disaster for Rhodesia."
Source: en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ian_Smith
the govnment policys and legislation were purely racial, the racism was not masked . blacks were rstricted better facilities or jobs by national law
@@bobmartin9918 I love how you people always defend whyte supremacy. You’re such a little weasel
loved that taxi driver with his happy and healthy compare with 2019
Bring back Rhodesia please
***** I wish they would, hopefully when Mugabe goes they might get that freedom again. We can only cross our fingers and hope for the better
Stacey m I'm sure that the old racist has someone hand picked to carry on in the same corrupt fashion....ZANU-PF wont let go of their privileged position, of that you can be sure.....
FMHammyJ God I hope not, don't need another one of him, if so Zimbabwe is doomed.
***** oh like Greece and the former Yougoslavia being "shitholes right"? You dense racist twit, get an education.
*****
Works both ways... keeps your utterly banal unproductive sponger lifestyle at bay from developing nations whose GDP improvement outstripped all of Europe . You jackass... you're a nothing and your beliefs will amount to the same.
Ian Smith was the greatest leader Africa has ever known. R.I.P.
I see you havent known many.
Sarah Jane Smith Obviously you do because you responded...
Christian Mengele what the fuck are you talking about. You stinking fuck
@Jonathan [British Imperialist] I'd recommend 'Communism by the backdoor'.
@@marka.1770 Both good leaders too, only bad side to Gaddafi was his support for the IRA.
IAN SMITH SERVED HIS COUNTRY AS A SOLDIER , SERVED HIS COUNTRY AS POLITICIAN , THAT'S RIGHT , SERVED HIS COUNTRY NOT HIMSELF . OTHER GOVERMENTS HATED THAT EXAMPLE ........... R.I.P SMITHY :(
Hold on now, he did not sell out his country and his people when the US and the UK threw millions his way?
What kind of African ruler was he? No wonder he died in poverty while most African leaders die in style in Nice or the Amalfi Coast with an underage girl or two next to them and a cocaine straw up their nose.
@ Wonder boy tell this ball hanging ass. That's not his country. Even the reporter said it, they came to Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) not long ago. The Fucking nerves.
Well he actually served Zionist Britain as a country. He woke up after though and fought Britain to the fullest.
Fuck Smith, may he rot in hell.
@@angusewanmacdougall839 And you wonder why your Rhodesia was thrown under the bus, by your own Keith and kin.
I bet Zimbabwe wishes it was still Rhodesia
Alan Morris True, they were perfectly fine playing in the mud with their disease and flies and weird voodoo shit. If they are happy being third world, let them be.
Got emmmm
Alan Morris If you want to come and build me a mansion I'm not going to complain and I'm certainly not going to tear it down and put a shack in it's place.
+Alan Morris You know Zimbabwe passed an act that gave a majority of all foreign and white owned businesses to natives? Is that racist? BTW they are still one of the biggest failed countries in history even after taking back the majority of everything earned by foreigners. Seems you Black Power advocates are all about violence and not about getting anywhere
Alan Morris
Whites didn't rob anyone in Rhodesia and did you even watch this documentary? Black Rhodesians were not unfairly taxed. The majority of people fighting in the Rhodesian forces were black, too. You are applying a false generalization to this history. Sorry to say it, but you are too uneducated to speak on this topic. You're arguing about a scenario completely different from this one...how about you read up on history before making it up yourself and then complaining against something that didn't happen. Get a grip on reality you brainwashed fool
It's amazing that there were people then who had lived during Rhodesia's founding in 1890.
That goes to show how artificial of a "country" it was. Bunch of economic migrants turned some company land into a country and named it after the owner of the company that owned the land.
@Johnny Rep Who cares? Not their place to begin with.
@@jake8855 Who's was it?
@@devinfraserashpole4753 The natives.
@@jake8855 Which natives?
Fantastic documentary! What a nice country South Rhodesia was and what hellhole it turned into. Even Africans admit that living in "new" country is far worse than what it was.
As an American looking at the increasingly uneducated US populace, what you say terrifies me.
Our democracy was never intended to deal with worthless high school drop outs and semi-illiterate immigrants from Latin America. We are next in line for collapse, unless we can refine our democracy to keep the garbage out.
+Garry Perkins W
***** Jews?
Your country has been fucked over by Wall street bankers and capitol hill its the old men of Princeton and Harvard that sold the country down the sewer and took the world with it into the abyss of a world wide recession through Sub Prime mortgages.
Most of the greatest minds have been college dropouts. Einstein and Lincoln to name a few.
The worthless cling on to high school and religion because they have nothing else to keep them a float in the world.
wild 72 Good luck in life. If high school was that much of a challenge, you are going to need all the luck you can get.v
Feel bad for the guy at 28:30 because we did sell them out. They didn't lose militarily.
+Chris Channer
We did. The whole Western world sold them down the river, and ironically, South Africa did too. You think South Africa would have noticed that they would have been next and continued to support Rhodesia, but I guess they assumed they would buy themselves a few more years if they betrayed Rhodesia.
Every single prediction of what would happen under majority rule occurred. Zimbabwe is now a living hell. From the breadbasket of Africa to 400000000% inflation. How sad. This is how the West dies.
+Chris Channer he was right, however.
+Dario Gagliano I AGREE WITH YOU...I AM SOUTH AFRICAN ...WAS A TEENAGER WHEN SA BETRAYED RHODESIA...I REMEMBER FEELING SO BETRAYED MYSELF THEN ...IT WAS SICK...IF WE HAD STOOD FIRM I RECKON TOGETHER WE WOPULD HAVE ALL EVOLVED MORE PEACEFULLY TO A TRULY CIVILISED FREE SUCCESSFUL DEMOCRACY TODAY INSTEAD OF THE TRAVESTY WE HAVE NOW...CECIL JOHN RHODES DREAM WOULD HAVE COME TRUE
Dario Gagliano Yes Vorster was an idiot.
how did a man who rebelliously declare independence from Britain give in to nationalism , Rhodesia had sworn to fight and it fought .
They clashed with the guerrillas until they noticed that they are dying their army was thinning. when the nationalist army was reached the borders they opted for an agreement. their defeat was inevitable. The territory was taken by bloody force .
If Rhodesia went down the slow road, they’d be a Continental Power by now. Definitely a farming powerhouse, if not a technological and industrial giant. Sad for the country that ceased to exist before I was born.
The racial, societal and socioeconomic issues aside, the economy was solely based on farming, it stood a snowball's chance in Hell of becoming even a regional power.
@@user-wy6zl9pk5zexactly someone explain this to white people
Any modern politician would not side with the white Rhodesians, they would support the black nationalists...yet in our own white countries we should allow other races to come in and run our communities and culture. I don't think this is an exaggerated strawman by any means. I just could not see any electable politician go against this.
Thank you so much for posting this Mediumcool.
As ever Smithy did not disappoint. He held himself well and spoke his mind, oh an how right he was. I miss him and Rhodesia so much, the world is a lesser place without them and there is not a politician alive with his honesty and integrity. But I suppose that I am one of the lucky few, I am Rhodesian and that is something that no one can take away from me.
Rhodesians Never Die
Here's the story of Rhodesia
A land both fair and great
On 11th of November
An independent state
This was much against the wishes
Of certain governments
Whose leaders tried to break us down
To make us all repent
But we're all Rhodesians
And we'll fight through thick and thin
We'll keep our land a free land
Stop the enemy coming in
We'll keep them north of the Zambezi
Till that river's running dry
This mighty land will prosper
For Rhodesians never die
They can send their men to murder
And they can shout their words of hate
But the cost of keeping this land free
Can never be too great
For our men and boys are fighting
For the things that they hold dear
That this land and all its people
Will never disappear
'Cause we're all Rhodesians
And we'll fight through thick and thin
We'll keep our land a free land
Stop the enemy coming in
We'll keep them north of the Zambezi
Till that river's running dry
This mighty land will prosper
For Rhodesians never die
We'll preserve this little nation
For our children's children too
For once you're a Rhodesian
No other land will do
We will stand tall in the sunshine
With the truth upon our side
And if we have to go alone
We'll go alone with pride
But we're all Rhodesians
And we'll fight through thick and thin
We'll keep our land a free land
Stop the enemy coming in
We'll keep them north of the Zambezi
Till that river's running dry
This mighty land will prosper
For Rhodesians never die
Yes we're all Rhodesians
And we'll fight through thick and thin
We'll keep our land a free land
Stop the enemy coming in
We'll keep them north of the Zambezi
Till that river's running dry
This mighty land will prosper
For Rhodesians never die
Because we're all Rhodesians
And we'll fight through thick and thin
We'll keep our land a free land
Stop the enemy coming in
We'll keep them north of the Zambezi
Till that river's running dry
This mighty land will prosper
For Rhodesians never die
Smith was shit, Rhodes was shit...Racist mofos who colonized , stole identities , killed many, raped many.
"Who says, the white men must go?" at 20:00
Ask Mugabe. He'll tell ya
@@brianmuvuti2505 more like; zimbabweans get out of my country because we're subject to a famine
That guy speaking Joshua Nkomo did himself also so he’s a liar. He’s also the one who gave the order for the civilian plane air Rhodesia 825 to be shot down with a strela 2 surface to air missile because it was full of white civilians and the ones that were still alive when it hit true ground were rounded up and massacred with automatic gun fire and bayonets including little children.
I wish I was lying but look up air Rhodesia 825, absolutely terrible and yet he acts like he’s a decent person here.
The Communist method is to lie and lie and lie and lie until you cut a deal with them. Then they cut your throat. The only good communist is a dead one. We need more dead ones.
@@billygiles3276 Yes Joshua did horrible shit too but at the same time open your eyes and look at the root of the problem. These guys were pushed to the edge and at times forced to become monster because of how stubborn Ian Smith and his party were in just setting up a system that uplifts all citizens of the country regardless of race.
What a great country, with such a sad ending.
The story hasn't ended yet!
Ended in 1987
What ending. It is a phase in history.
@@anesukafesu7875ended
Irony: When Rhodesia was better off in 1976 than Zimbabwe is in 2020
This is a great piece of journalism. I do now understand quite a bit more about the situation.
I wish Rhodesia was still in existence I would move there today. I would be proud to call myself a Rhodesian
This happens when illusion suffocates the reality
Rhodesians never die.
Rhodesia died a long time ago and will never ever come back in your life only in your memories yes..
@UnitedWeTrip Commie 🗑
@Jordan LOL. Rhodesia was better for ALL inhabitants than Zimbabwe has ever been for ANY of its inhabitants. A classic case of the grass appearing greener on the other side of the fence. Wether the government was seemingly racist or not, they had the most beautiful civilized country in all of Africa, with fantastic schools, healthcare, and higher education. Now it’s a horrific slum. The black populace thought they would be better off without the white rhodesians “ruling” them. Well, they got what they wanted didn’t they? Absolute squalor and filth, starvation, no clean water or power let alone even basic hospitals. NeoLiberal anti racism policies turned the breadbasket of Africa into the basket case. I bet living in Somalia is a better experience nowadays. Sad.
This is just unbelievable.
And to say the least, Noah the cap driver was definitely right about the economic impacts of a black ruling.
Thank you for uploading
I wish the ANC government in South Africa (and also by the way the US government) would listen to leader of the black nationalists in Rhodesia who said (18:44) : "once a party and the leaders of a party express their views in terms of white and in terms of black then those people are racists".
based. Can't believe this is coming from the glorious man himself. Socialism is a civilization killer.
Joseph you´ve killed me :laugh (and my polish grandpa...)
The irony
rest in peace smithy, I met you at a ceremony in 1978 at the thornton barricks. I had just come over from australia and transfered to the RAF. I didn't even lose my rank!. My sqd leader was the fabled 'Green leader". I was on his 8'clock in a canberra during the zambian raid. RIP both of you great men!. Memories for ever!.
You're a true hero for having served on the Green Leader raid.
@@thesmithersywhy is he a true leader
This is a really interesting documentary. Thank you for uploading it.
It's actually from a Australian TV program called 4corners, stills runs today.
Food exporting agricultural oasis to international basket case in one generation.
I lived two years in Bulawayo Rhodesia in 1975. Beautiful country. Sorry to see the country’s destruction after the natives take over in 1979. Sad.
It was inevitable
Very interesting. Seems Ian Smith really grasped the issue of citizens needing to have a certain level of education in order to be able to vote. I guess that's why Mugabe managed to rule as a dictator for nearly 4 decades.
If blacks had equal access to education then Mugabe wouldn't have stood a chance.
@@angusyates828 What stopped 'blacks' having equal access to education prior to the 16th C?
@@darrylcombe2469 Um Ian Smith.
@@angusyates828 better check your history there, bud.
@@angusyates828they have an average IQ of 75, that can't be fixed overnight. When the average person is clinically retarded, do you think they can do anything complex like run a government?
I was part of the audience of Charlie's show that night.
I worked in Zambia from 1973-1976 and visited Rhodesia many times between 1974-1980. I had a coloured Rhodesian girl-friend so obviously I'm no racist, although that was not acceptable to many whites at the time. A most beautiful and well-run country. However, I thought then and still do now that Ian Smith's constant repetition of the upholding standards mantra was a fools errand. If more concessions had been made earlier on to accommodate black aspirations, I think this would have resulted in a better outcome. Forty years later I returned twice to visit Zimbabwe and was so saddened to see the collapse both politically and economically. But I still love the place and wish them well.
Well said truth
@@vanya628 I'm afraid you may be right. But there was at least a chance that a more centrist inclusive government would emerge, rather than the Marxists. Then again, tribal rivalries would probably have taken over.
"I had a coloured Rhodesian girl-friend so obviously I'm no racist" might be the most hilariously ridiculous thing I've read in a while.
I am a White American of Italian and Portuguese Ancestry . I do not see what is hilarious about a guy saying that His Girlfriend was Black and therefore He is not racist. I feel that is accurate. In My own family there has never been the hatred toward blacks that say member’s of white supremacist groups like the KKK have. I grew up with Black friends and worked with blacks in Our family owned construction business. My Dad would hang out with Black Guys who worked for us at Our home drinking Highballs and beer shooting the Bull. I married My first Wife knowing She had Two young Daughters who are 1/2 Black. I put up with unsavory remarks from My Dad and Brother both of whom I love and still do although My Dad passed away years ago after My second Marriage, that too, He did not approve of and both of My second wife’s Boys are White. One of the older Black Guys who worked with Me said “ Son thats just His Way, He really don’t mean nothin by it. He is just old school same as Me. We Blacks are the same way. Kind Prefer Kind , Its all understood”.
@@pelonehedd7631
1) the use of his supposed girlfriend as basically a disclaimer as to how much of a non-racist he is, has me convinced that she either never existed, or that their relationship was not something normal people would describe as "boyfriend and girlfriend".
2) being cordial to people who work for you is not as powerfull a statement as you seem to think.
3) if your family isn't racist, why would they make unsavory comments about your wife and her mixed kids?
4) why do americans, more than any others, feel the need to preface their comments by announcing their nationality, skin color and ancestry?
It brings a smile to my face when they interviewed Ian Smith in this video.
The unfortunate reality of a man that tried as hard as he could to retain a good country.
This is not his country
@@abdiwaliabdi4059
Ok bulb head
Retain for a minority
Retain for a minority
So what if they were a minority? Just because you belong to a demographic majority doesn’t mean anything. The proof is in the pudding, as they say.
It took the majority less than 20 years to destroy what they inherited. Enough with applying modern PC nonsense to a situation 45-odd years ago; the plain fact is that Ian smith was right.
The majority were simply incapable of leaving old tribal feuds behind and embracing modern means of government. If you doubt me, feel free to take a trip to Zimbabwe now. Rhodesia hasn’t been a thing for long enough that the present majority has no one to blame but themselves for their current situation.
Smithy , a man of integrity , World War ll Fighter Pilot , Farmer , Statesman and our Prime Minister of a once prosperous , friendly nation of Rhodesia , who thumbed his nose at No # 10 Downing St .
Who feared god , but not the marxist communist guerrillas . We salute you sir & God bless :(
R.I.P : Right Hon : Ian Douglas Smith / PM of Rhodesia -
Born : April 19 , 1919
Passed : November 20 , 2007
Trots Rhodesie te wees 100% , Rhodesiers nooit sterf !!!!
Groete van Australie !
Angus MacKenzie
Man fuck you
R.I.P Ian Smith and Rhodesia
Rhodesians Never Die
Here's the story of Rhodesia
A land both fair and great
On 11th of November
An independent state
This was much against the wishes
Of certain governments
Whose leaders tried to break us down
To make us all repent
But we're all Rhodesians
And we'll fight through thick and thin
We'll keep our land a free land
Stop the enemy coming in
We'll keep them north of the Zambezi
Till that river's running dry
This mighty land will prosper
For Rhodesians never die
They can send their men to murder
And they can shout their words of hate
But the cost of keeping this land free
Can never be too great
For our men and boys are fighting
For the things that they hold dear
That this land and all its people
Will never disappear
'Cause we're all Rhodesians
And we'll fight through thick and thin
We'll keep our land a free land
Stop the enemy coming in
We'll keep them north of the Zambezi
Till that river's running dry
This mighty land will prosper
For Rhodesians never die
We'll preserve this little nation
For our children's children too
For once you're a Rhodesian
No other land will do
We will stand tall in the sunshine
With the truth upon our side
And if we have to go alone
We'll go alone with pride
But we're all Rhodesians
And we'll fight through thick and thin
We'll keep our land a free land
Stop the enemy coming in
We'll keep them north of the Zambezi
Till that river's running dry
This mighty land will prosper
For Rhodesians never die
Yes we're all Rhodesians
And we'll fight through thick and thin
We'll keep our land a free land
Stop the enemy coming in
We'll keep them north of the Zambezi
Till that river's running dry
This mighty land will prosper
For Rhodesians never die
Because we're all Rhodesians
And we'll fight through thick and thin
We'll keep our land a free land
Stop the enemy coming in
We'll keep them north of the Zambezi
Till that river's running dry
This mighty land will prosper
For Rhodesians never die
This is the wife writing! Nkoma was responsible for the shooting down of two Viscount planes killing all but a few. The passengers were all holiday makers. Ian Smith, after Mugabe took over, went into Gwelo for shopping and was seen by local black people who placed him on their shoulders and carried him around shouting for him to take the country back. Rhodesia was God's own country.
Just watching this shows how old news programs were so much more informative rather than partisan nonsense
Bruce MacAllister - you're spot on, mate....I remember taking holidays from the UK to Rhodesia to visit fam in Avondale...It always struck us that people of all races got on quite well together in daily life -- despite media rubbish to the contrary. What a beautiful, prosperous country (it was).
That's the media for you, when people are paid to speak, expect some of that payment to be bribes ahem! sorry! sorry, "payrise".
Blacks happily living in barbed wire villages?
@@sjx3516 happier knowing they had at least something keeping the reds out, villagers for thousands of years had fences or palisades, the modern equivalent of which is a chain link fence.
@@sjx3516 It was the communists they were being protected from you knob. Miss the part where the commies cut ears off of men and force fed them to their wives? Get a grip on reality.
@@sjx3516 that barbed wire was to keep communist guerillas out. Not keep them in.
Seems fairly unbiased reporting. At one point the reporter admits that the standard of living in Rhodesia is higher than any black ruled African country to the north. I visited in the 1970's and there was peace between Africans working with whites and all seemed to get on well. No servants killing the master and so forth - in fact a great deal of trust and goodwill. In hindsight we now know those Africans were more than happy compared how it is under Communist Mugabe, where millions have fled the country, something that never happened under Smith.. Funny how things go round and round.
under smith there were fewer passports and no freedom of movement. now people can go where they want.
Don't think most of those who have fled are using passports. They get into South Africa illegally, a number swimming the Limpopo, some eaten by croc's.
The argument is about subjugation not about standard of living.
@@alphabogeyman7462zoom out……we’re all subjugated.
I was one of the whites livening in Rhodesia, my earnings was earning R$40 a month the houses shown were rich whites houses not the average whites, there were a lot of black people training with the whites in Bulawayo, this is not all correctly documented. I was called up for military duty under Ian Smith and under Bishop Muzarewa whom we whites respected
Are you zimbaween again or you live the country ?
@@henringallikingue910 I was born in Zimbabwe (Rhodesia) grew up in three different countries but left Zimbabwe because there was not work. I still love Zimbabwe, but have settled in Australasia.
@@nicksmith7975 so you re zimbawean from rhodesian descent and i think your are australo-zimbawean.
I just curious because i'm french and cameroonian so african european😀
I didn't know about the rhodesian .
the period u are talking of was a period of compromise following the heat of war and nationalist pressure. even the rank policy restricted blacks fro having commissioned ranks.
it was clearly metioned in history that coz of the lower population of whites they had to take commanding roles to avoid cassualties and then train the blacks as foot solders to be commaded by th white officers
Love you Ian Smith, you and the country as a whole drew a line in the sand which you stood for. Long live the memory of Rhodesia and those black and white, that fought for it.
I wonder if the Australian narrator could show us the contrast between his living arrangements and that of Australian Aboriginal people in 1976
looooool
@vanya ummm not true at all. Gardens not so much, farms yes. My point is the hypocrisy of Australians who criticise African colonies where morally we are in exactly the same situation, albeit with a much much much smaller indigenous population. Naturally this means the conflict between colonist and coloniser is much more one sided and hence less obvious in Australia. Aside from all of that, I was referring to living conditions. And I can attest to the fact that there are many indigenous Australians who right now are living to a much lesser standard to that shown of indigenous Africans in Rhodesia in the 70s.
That would be interesting. Remember Australia had a whites only immigration policy until 1983! Good grief these ghastly ex British outposts!
This is a very interesting and well balanced news video.
what a great country and great people RIP
It's kinda annoying hearing this fellow Australia criticize a fellow nation like Rhodesia who were much kinda to blacks in this time than we ever were to Abos here
The guy at 17:00 called it, HE FREAKING CALLED IT.
The guy? Thats Ian Smith. Fairly important "guy". He dreamed the dream
Rhodesia looked like a great, proud country. So refreshing to hear a politician speak of 'standards' in a meaningful way.
Rhodesia was great - ZANU PF fucked it up
And continue to do so
Check out their Borrowdale properties and their 4x4s
All in all, this is a very interesting documentary about the country in which I was born and bred and where my South African grandparents (who moved to Rhodesia in the 1950s) lived on their farm throughout the Bush War. In particular, I like the honesty of the member of the Rhodesian Light Infantry who states that he is fighting to protect his country and to keep it white. Many other Rhodesians felt exactly the same, myself included. The idea, sometimes put forward, that most whites were perfectly happy with the concept of handing the country over to the blacks in due course, as long as they were not Communists, is a great distortion of the truth.
Problem with all of this is that they invaded and took over a country that is nuts could you imagine if that happened to you now try and seriously think about it.
Better than being Red
Glen Dodds -- Yes I agree. As an outsider visiting Rhodesia many times in the 1970s, my impression was that the great majority of whites did not accept black majority rule at any price. They wanted to protect their comfortable life-style with black servants.
@@roccodon5781except they didn't. Rhodesia is a unique case in European colonialism in Africa. The original European settlers made friendly contracts with King Lobengula. The Whites stuck to their side, the Matabele did not, they turned on the Europeans as well as on the Shona, who the Matabele harassed and frequently enslaved. The Whites put a stop to that. They defended themselves against the Matabele and won, so they retained control of the land that they had gained through a purely defensive posture.
@@joer9156That's true.
Fascinating glimpse into that period... I've visited, it really is a different world now, but you can see remnants of this. Incredible.
Hysterical 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Yes it used to be respectable, paved roads and good running water, etc, free medical. But now! Oh not even any water in the hospitals!!!!
I was born in Rhodesia and left just before the Mugabe elections. I still consider myself a white Rhodesian. My parents did not have a house as shown in this video; theirs was more like that owned by the taxi driver. I miss my ex countrymen including all my black friends who are going through so much these days. Add that is what we fought for - not privilege but to prevent a dictator like Mugabe taking over. After all these years, we were proved right.
wow that South African at 26:23 judged the situation correctly!
Jon Abrahams very astute of the South African with what was coming down the line. I wonder was he South African Intelligence are something like that?
Very accurate
Yes, he was on point. Perhaps because he was arguing rationally and not emotionally unlike his colleagues there.
Before Hong Kong, UK betrayed Rhodesia too. Handovered a happy and wealthy place to evil dicators.
So accurate.
Globalist leaders
Hong Kong; the Chinese city the British occupied because the Chinese wouldn't let them traffic drugs into China. Better CCP rule than that old hag the queen anyway, despite the love affair that modern day fake conservatives on both sides of the pond have with her.
At least,Hong Kong now is better than Rhodesia
You imps know you needed foreign places for happiness and wealth to begin with. Even the Indians scared you.
Excellent documentary on 1976 Rhodesia. With knowing their astounding success during those years, such a back drop of knowledge helps to understand that the 'racial' problems were not the forefront as the reporter wants you to believe, but the war instigated by the marxists guerrillas supported by the USSR. By '76, all men 35 and younger had to serve to fight for their nation. Sadly, the US elected Jimmy Carter as president that November who turned his back on Rhodesia and thus nearly zero western help arrived. Mugabe entered and the lives of those young men interviewed at the end were sacrificed at the alter of foolish hatred of liberalism who will, in turn, be sacrificed on the alter of marxism. Ian Smith was right, so very prophetically right. You liberals who love the mantra of racism will one day discover that your beloved Marxism is indeed the most vile of racists from whom you will not survive.
Reagan would have made the same choice. Sorry.
Родезия объявила независимость от Англии. Это и было причиной эмбарго от политической изоляции Родезии. Ну и ЮжноАфриканскую республику уничтожил не марксизм, а именно США и западная Европа. Просто уничтожили возможных конкурентов на мировом рынке.
The South African guy at the cricket match was way closer with his estimate.
18:05 *Race-realism deniers have been asking the same obvious questions for 42 years*
The South African speaking at the end saying that change would happen in two years was a lot closer to reality than the Rhodesian saying it would be at least 20 years. Funny thing is that in less than 20 years South Africa itself had majority rule.
90% unemployment in Zimbabwe at the moment, Noah couldn't drive a taxi
even if he wanted to!
I am Australian and this is the work of our disgusting taxpayer funded
national broadcaster the ABC. It exists on the hard earned dollars of Australian tax dollars to lecture and hector us, promote the breakdown of the family unit and encourage our complicity in destruction of our own racial and cultural heritage. Please DO NOT BE LED by the non professional commentary but make up your own mind. This broadcaster has been investigated recently via a Royal Comission for constantly straying away from their charter and failing to remain impartial.
Shades of the BBC.
It was 47 years ago.
"My grandmother is still alive and active at 84 yrs old.: I am very pleased to hear that.. please give her my regards..
"whites run Africa, how did most Africans benefit?" Here’s a few tangible examples of how African lives improved living under British governance. End of slavery, end tribal warfare & capricious deaths at hands of chiefs, entry into modern economic world, improved standards of living, and explosive growth in populations, doubling of lifespans. These all fruits of modern government. Compare just look at what has happened since independence all in reverse except population growth
"Black men must run black countries, even if they make a mess of them."
Lol.
When Ian says he wants certain standards for enfranchisement, It's not racist or wrong. If you don't know anything about how a government is run why should you be able to vote? That is why there is a minimum age limit for voting. How are people who are just beginning to know how to read and write expected to make an educated choice on voting in a government? With a little more time I feel that Rhodesia would have been very successful. Giving power to people that have never had control of anything bigger than a village, who are uneducated in modern economics and politics is going to end poorly. But no, the fat African communist in the nice suit is right. It's all the white man's fault.
jamiemcf1 though I agree with the sentiment, consider the intellect of the average American on political issues, or even the geography of their nation yet they are permitted to vote and participate. That's the inherent snag with democracy, its implicit egalitarianism means everybody gets to vote, whether they destroy themselves in the process its their right. The argument that need have been had was whether these terribly young, terribly volatile african states where ready for democracy. But if history tells us anything its, no matter how benevolent an occupying minority is , it cannot reign over a relatively impoverished indigenous majority.
Mobutu Sese Seko Nkuku Ngbendu I understand, but Americans have the chance to study their government and politics and most choose not to which is a shame. It's the same here in Britain, but the difference is that the vast majority of Africans didn't have the access to that knowledge. I think a lot of African nations like Uganda for instance wanted their Independence from Europeans but just didn't know what to do with it and were swindled by charismatic men who did poorly in improving things. I think both white and black should forgive each other for wrong doings done in Africa by both sides and work together to build a better Africa.
jamiemcf1 yeah, its a pitiful situation, I just get annoyed by the condescending paternalistic attitude employed by Smith, and the horde of benighted souls on any comment section of this, and similar videos. Africans were victims of occupation, who often get unfairly blamed for the fallout from this unfortunate scenario and in so belittling the complexities of their narrative, the true problems are never identified and resolved. I'm not for pointing the finger at anyone, just for honest reflection. The Rhodesia experience failed because Smith and his ilk failed to recognize the blacks as people just like themselves, a commonality whenever there exists a wealth or educational gap that large between any group. One does fail to see his 'lessers' as even being members of the same species in that circumstance. otherwise their grievance would have been understandable and dealt with accordingly. But the simple fact is Smith was fighting to maintain white privilege, the blacks were merely peripheral. And who in good conscience wouldn't revolt immediately.
Mobutu Sese Seko Nkuku Ngbendu I think you're being too simple in your view. The bush war wasn't about black v white. It was about Communism. 2/3's of the Rhodesian army were black and there was no conscription. Did Ian Smith want whites to stay in power? Yes he did. But It's not like the whites were introducing apartheid like South Africa. I've seen footage of white and black soldiers sitting side by side with no prejudice telling that they are fighting to keep Rhodesia free of communism, not that it was a racial war. South Africa was harsh in It's treatment of Blacks, Rhodesia was not oppressive but seemed so due to the wealth gap. But so did every colonised country at the time. I just think Ian realised that it was still a relatively new nation that needed Educated guidance for a while longer to maintain and progress further as a nation before the gap between black and whites was shortened. It's like you're building a car from scratch, you've got most of it finished, all the essentials. But when you get made sell it before it's done and the new owner drives it before it's ready, It brakes down. It's not just the colour of someone's skin but the education they possess. If you'd built a country known as the bread basket of Africa, with the highest living standard in the continent and saw countries like the Congo given to the people only for it to crumble, would you let it happen? I'm not saying they shouldn't have shortened the gap, but just that they tried before they were ready. And that has lead to a corrupt, racist Zimbabwe with people suffering, both black and white.
jamiemcf1 oh I have to totally disagree there, the myth of the benevolent occupier is hot fancy..I honestly am shocked by the assertion that the average black soldier in the Rhodesia army could be believed to have understood communism enough to articulate his distrust of it, I doubt very much Mugabe even did, and am pretty sure he just played that up for the guns anyways. But all that is besides the point, indulge me in a simple thought experiment, if your land had been occupied, and the people who occupied your land a small minority lived in a luxury that you living in abject poverty only got to watch play out, granted you have health care and running water, would you feel it was just. Would you honestly stand for it? Note i don't put much stock in the ideas of nationality, race etc..but to deny these people the basic human function of a sense of justice is egregious. To ask that of any people would run counter to every instance of occupation in history. I'm actually confounded as to how that stance can be intelligible. The Rhodesian experience was one in which 6million indigenous souls lived in dignified poverty while a quarter of a million recent arrivals, who had secured the best for themselves lived in languorous ease. So these people were supposed to just watch, and be told that one day your lives will be better,we are doing this for you..now mow the lawn, and accept it. you would accept that..? You wouldn't at least try to change your circumstance..?
In 1978 I was earning 1.50 dollars an hour as a nurse. Two dollars at night-shift.My first flat had one room, a small kitchen and a bathroom. My rent was 45 dollars a month. Later I moved into a garden cottage, one room, bathroom, very small kitchen, rent was 80 dollars a month including breakfast and laundry. Most whites didn't live in those mansions, which I don't recognise which neighbour this is? Many whites lived in apartment blocks or in small houses. My landlord was an black Rhodesian.
media is never accurate, just biased influence
The issue that nobody was prepared to confront, was that Rhodesian politics were tribal, at this time it was controlled by the white tribe, when democracy was introduced, it was Mugabe's tribe being the largest that took control and dismantled democracy and treated those who were not from the right tribe with brutall persecution, this was the inevitable reality of introducing democracy to this political environment and we were nieve to think it was going to end in any other way.
"Rhodesians coming over the border from zambia and mozambique"
Hmmm something tells me they were not rhodesians if they came from zambia and mozambique
I would be really interested to know what had happened to a lot of the people interviewed in this. Did that cab driver see his fortunes improved? Did those troopies survive the war?
Never once was taught about Rhodesia in school.
No reason to unless you went to school in Zimbabwe.
@@jake8855 ignorance is bliss
@francisnewlandnewland OK, why should people outside of Zimbabwe learn about a failed state that existed for only a couple decades? Five thousand years of human history; why prioritize something that had no impact outside of the country where it existed?
Nkomo asks: "who says the white man must go?" :( breaks my heart what they did to the country.
Zimbabwe is the most beautiful place in the world to me. Black or white means nothing to me. Being Zimbabwean is my proudest attribute. As a nation we suffer black and white alike. It's just a very sad state. I believe peace is possible, very difficult but possible. I hope to live in a Zim or at least, one day, raise my children in a Zim where equality truly exits nationwide..
Another brilliant four corners episode!
Ian Smith was a great leader
The presenter/interviewer is extremely blinkered & biased. He should have compared the conditions of the blacks in Rhodesia to the conditions in Ghana, Nigeria, Uganda, etc., and he'd have seen that Smith was doing a very good job.
Overall this is a good documentary. It was of course made in 1976 and the presenter is thus wrong when he states that for over four years now Rhodesians have been fighting guerrillas who come across the border from Zambia or Mozambique." The war had in fact started in 1964 and the first significant clash happened at Sinoia in April 1966. The guerrillas were defeated on that occasion and fared badly in subsequent encounters with Rhodesia's small but highly efficient security forces. Consequently, by the close of the 1960s the war had died down and only really got under way again in late 1972.
During the documentary, Ian Smith was asked whether he expected military support from South Africa if the conflict worsened and gave a diplomatic reply. As is well known, by 1976 he was in fact coming under pressure from President Vorster of South Africa to come to terms with moderate black opponents.
On the other hand, what is less well known is that South Africa had been helping Rhodesia's war effort for many years. Indeed, ground forces and members of the South African Air Force had been playing a role in the war since the 1960s. Moreover, after this documentary was made the war became increasingly intense and South Africa (which was fighting in Namibia and Angola as well, a conflict that had started in 1966 and would continue until 1989) stepped up its involvement in Rhodesia, especially after P.W. Botha succeeded Vorster as president. For example, D company of the Rhodesian SAS was in fact the cover name for members of the South African special forces fighting alongside their Rhodesian counterparts. In addition, the South African Air Force took part in a number of joint cross-border operations and among the members of the SADF who lost their lives were the three-strong crew of a Puma helicopter shot down in September 1979 while carrying members of the Rhodesian Light Infantry, all of whom were likewise killed. The war ended two months later.
Amazing piece
Good reportage with different points of view.
The taxi driver became a billionaire in Zimbabwe, but I bet he would change it back to the $36 a week in Rhodesia in a heartbeat.
Very true, I bet. Nice roads with no potholes, a well maintained work vehicle, steady income, shops well stocked, free medical, no power cuts, clean running water, safe environment for his children, etc, etc.
When Charlie Murphy noticed the camera and said "Is that in colour?" had me in stitches
That was cringeworthy, what a sellout!
At least they had functioning country with honest and responsible government and one of the best economies in Africa along with gaddafis Libya and South Africa. Now they are just another failed African state thanks to western betrayal and communist corruption with 90% unemployment. It’s a complete tragedy.
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I find it highly amusing the way in Nkomo is portrayed. This Australian journalist is either ignorant, or playing ignorant. Nkomo was well documented committing atrocities against his own people and those who opposed him. Ironically, Mugabe massacred Nkomo's soldiers and Nkomo fled new Zimbabwe for exile fearing his life. It is interesting to watch this (my family left Zimbabwe for Australia where I was born) to see mid-war opinions. Thanks for uploading!
Rhodesia seemed like a great nation. To bad this country doesn't exist anymore. 😥
Rest In Paradise : His Excelency Right Hon: PM Ian Douglas Smith :( ...
@Sundiata Keita Hotler had black Sudanese in the Wehrmacht and SS, same with north Africans, Palestinians, Sikhs, etc.
Nkomo calling Ian Smith a racist is a joke - Smith didn't slaughter thousands of Nkomo's Ndebele tribesmen, which Mugabe, leader of the rival Shona tribe, did soon after he obtained power.
Not to mention he was lying when he said that whites would leave on their own terms when Mugabe forced them to leave after stealing their land.
MOst of the "black suburbs" were in a better shape than many of parts Spain on the 60-70's on Franco dictatorship lol. IN Europe not Africa.
And I am from Spain.
Rhodesians were not as bad as the commentator is reading from his script. We had our short comings, yet we cared more for the Africans of all tribes in comparing today’s leadership to the Rhodesian period. Today we see what we knew was going to happen, only those close to the leaders get special treatment.
It must have been humiliating for the black guys you see pouring tea for the white guys, knowing the whites feel superior to you. So I get why they rebelled. That doesn't mean what succeeded it was any better though.
Yeah poor rodesain go cry somewhere else
Read Alexandra Fuller's books. She grew up during the Bush War. Her parents were definitely racist. The entire Ian Smith govt was against majority rule. Of course they were racist.
Great interviews!
Wow that South African guy about 25 mins in, unpopular opinion, but almost spot on
It actually looks like a decent place to live back then, I wouldn't go there now if you paid me.
Ian Smith, he is so good. I miss him.
How i love these old BBC reports.. that conversation at the end, wow !
en el minuto 4:32 que marcha suena?????........el sonido es muy parecido a la "Marcha de San Lorenzo"....?????¿¿¿¿¿???
If you're telling the truth (I get the feeling you are) I'd love to ask you a few questions some time. For reasons unknown, I've always been fascinated with Rhodesia & to a lesser extent, in the S. African "Bush War"/border war with Angola. So did you see any combat? I bet you have some amazing stories. I wish there was more information available. Specifically, some good documentaries on Rhodesia & their military. I've read that Rhodesian light Infantry was among the world's best.
I love Rhodesia even though I come from a country as distant as Poland. Rhodesian history and how you were betrayed reminds the story of my own country. I've never even been to Africa, but I wish I could see Rhodesia again.
Keep out of Africa please, if you support this stupidity Slav.
@vanya how exactly?
@vanya re-read my sentence.
@vanya yes. And you can't even manage that. Name calling won't you though.
@vanya better crazy than stupid. Re-read the sentence.
Now no more a land of milk and honey ...now they starving :-)
Rhodesians never die ✊
Stolen land.
@@tempesttempest769the most powerful country on earth is “stolen land”, it is what it is pal.