ELSebinho Trollbane stop being fanboy. I never said he wasn’t the best. There were multiple factors on why he got beaten despite being the best. It’s the nature of eSports. Nobody can be the “best” for long. There’s always a counter to any strategy. You should know that if you’re a StarCraft 2 player.
WOOOOOWWW!!!!! What an incredible series. Normally I don't especially enjoy watching ZvZ, but that had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. Game 3 will go down as the greatest ZvZ of all time. And possibly the whole series as the best ZvZ series of all time. Absolutely incredible. I'm gobsmacked.
THIS is why I watch SC2! The level of play from both of these guys is incredible. Game 3 might be the best ZvZ I’ve ever seen from a technical perspective. Also, even with everything happening in all of the games this series is, hands down, some of the best observing I’ve ever seen. I don’t know who was observing but PROPS! Being able to keep track of all the game play and then on top of that listening to the commentators to pull up relavent screens and checking upgrades and the like, super excellent. One thing I noticed around 22:22, when Todd was talking about roach burrow-maybe he was talking about micro in general but the roaches don’t regen health faster in this patch than regular Zerg regen (when burrowed) right? Thank you ESL for posting this. Incredible production all around and incredible games. THANK YOU!
Game 3 might even be the best game of all time... That game was even from minute 1 till the end of the game... Just sick! When the game finally ends both got like less than 20 supply wow...
Simply wanted to rewatch this match, just after Rogue completely outsmarted his opponents this year, and then realize how much I miss you Geoff. GGWP sir, always be by your side, despite my awful French accent ofc SoO my boy what an incredible moment
The caster give Serral so much credits in the beginning of the game like how he gonna move to the Ro4 and beat Hero...... and out of nowhere SoO just shut all of them up and win the entire thing!
From 19:30 and for a minute or so the obs keeps showing us how Serral hasn't managed to scout the Lair, but the freaking Roach Warren is researching Roach speed right in front of Serral's lings. He sees it twitching! He knows that the Lair is around.
I havnt played star craft, but I got hooked watching it. So Im not familiar with all its rules/mechanics. 3rd game Why is it called the Last Unit? Cant they reproduce more?
@@kk.5512 They were almost out of minerals, the currency used to build buildings and units. And even if they could, it would only drag the game for 5 more minutes and the one trying to reproduce more would die regardless because the opponent would have bigger army
Its bittersweet to see and hear Incontrol commentating... Star Craft lost one of its best... Too soon... It goes without saying that tis sport will never be the same!!! R.I.P INCONTROL!!!😢😢😢
Rogue vs Serral in BlizzCon 2018 had some long, intensely close, and creative games using all tech including nydus, dropperlords, burrowed roaches. IMO better set, but Game 3 of this So0 vs Serral set was the best Roach Ravager vs Roach Ravager ZvZ of all time
game 3 was incredible. rare toe to toe game. Serral is still the best player in the world, the only way to put him down is ZvZ, and I'm thinking it since last year. Being the most mirror match of the mirror matches, ZvZ is open to defeat for anyone, including Serral sometimes. soO is an incredible player, but Serral went the distance also vs Reynor, Scarlett and JonSnow in WCS Montreal, it's just the way the matchup is designed.
The casters asked the question, "What makes Serral better than his competition?" I think it's his ability to process tactical information in real time. He understands the map more classically, like a chess player, and he values positional play. He almost never takes a bad fight and reacts well to the changing tides. I feel that's why Serral is superior to his competition, most of whom have a tendency to play like StarCraft players who are less familiar with classic strategy games. I've seen over and over again players cede the middle of the map to Serral without contest, almost as if they don't understand the significance of centralized map control. It doesn't hurt that Zerg gets creep and nydus...
So nice to have casters who actually know what they're talking about instead of Tasteless's 'You need to have more bases if you want to mine more minerals'
SPOILER 1:21:33 Respect. Serral knows he has some things he could learn from this fantastic Korean zerg. I hope for at least a Best of 5 rematch someday for these two stellar athletes.
Game 3 is so fucking intense lol. Games like these are so rare and Soo must have ice water in his veins for not losing his cool at any given point of time in that round.
@ESL please sort your playlists chronologically in the future. The outcome of this match was completely spoiled by Neeb vs Stats commentary, which plays before this match. Otherwise, great show!
Serral has never won an IEM Katowice championship, he will need to rectify that with a vengeance in 2020. Serral still has a few goals to achieve to be the undisputed GOAT, that even Serral haters have little choice but accept it begrudgingly. A GSL Code S, a IEM Katowice and it would be massive if he won another WCS global championship. (Even Though he has set a few records already with one of the longest winning streaks, 5 x back to back championships and the very first foreigner to win the WCS global final ending Korea’s reign)
@07.38 The answer to ToD's question is; Insane cognitive response, over average hand/eye coorditation, young age, skill, and probably some dedication. Cheers, great casting! Edit: Progressive high IQ!
No one would believe me, but when i saw n the Bracket soO vs Serral i said to my friends"This is the only guy that can kill Serral if somene can, in this tourament" and here we are haha Lol ... What an EPIC / HEAVY / SOLID play by soO lol! :) He's the Roach Master - even Serral is no match for his Roach combos hahah - try different style agains soO, but no roach vs roach :) Obviously ... GG to both Grande players!! What an epic games to watch . Respect :)) The game 3 was so EVEN at 20 stages of the match .... every single Drone and Limit was equal ... after some dozen of fights and every single time Drones and limits was equall LOL :))) !!! This was IMPRESSIVE to watch never seen such thing :))
Yep, I put soO on the short list of players who stand a chance against Serral. If soO has one strong thing about him, other than seemingly immortal until the finals, is his ZvZ roach play. There are so many games where he will be down in army supply, attack across the map into superior numbers and defender's advantage, and just barrel through. He wins roach v roach games where, on paper, he is "supposed to lose".
it is funny though current GSL SoO said he would want to avoid Rogue if possible Vs dark Vs other class he is fine & we know SoO ZVZ is one of his best not saying Vs T or P is weak but rogue
Don't think so. Serral still on the top of his game. soO just really good at ZvZ. Other foreigners are also stepping up their game. lets wait for a few years for the players to develop and they can go head-to-head with the koreans and maybe win championships
@@OpiatesAndTits Well if it involves China, I'll take our overlords in South Korea over them any day hands down. Never have nor will be a fan of China until that mess of a country stop's it's South China Sea dumpster fire and allow me people there to use WInnie the Pooh however they see fit!
For me the best Zerg player before he got arrested at a young age and shoot to prison is Life. Serral Versus Life Zerg against Zerg what do you think will be the outcome?
Starcraft is my all time fav game besides GTA5. I played Starcraft 1 for 8 years! Played the computer mostly but I got to fighting two brutals and I’m beat. I liked creating my own battles in world editor.
He moved command his army toward soO's army so they were not attacking and soO started killing them. That army will be dead and soO will walk toward his base and kill him.
What does DeMuslim even mean when he says ”soO doesnt like mechanics at all” at 1.45 and then says ”when you look at his hand on his keyboard it looks crazy and phenomenal” ????
Players I want to see defeat Serral are as follows. Ender Zerg player from Philippines. Polt Terran player from Korea, Bomber, CJ Hero, Jaedong and flash but it is bad that these two are now retired.
What I kinda wondered during the 3rd game was, why nobody build infestors- with one or two good fungles they'd have exposed the roaches to the revenger biles 🤔
Good point, I think if soO built infestors, the vipers would just snatch them instantly and roaches focus them down though. The fact the vipers exist uncontested makes them such a versatile support unit in that army situation
@@maleable11 I get your point, but I meant infestors not as replacement for the vipers but as additional support unit. Theoretically the infestors could've also neuraled the vipers, but well, that's getting more tricky and requires also an additional upgrade. However the infestors themselves are already available just like that at this stage of the game.
Got the feeling Serral gave Soo games... Maybe He betted money on the games. I play terran and are Korean, still why did not Serral expand or abduct more in game three? And that gg in second game despite he had upgraded deficits. Many things did not make sense at all.
![SC2 - Stats[P] vs. Dark [Z] - Semifinal - IEM Katowice 2019](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gxljNJ2Cz00/mqdefault.jpg)
![SC2 - Scarlett [Z] vs. Bunny [T] - Group D Round 4 - IEM Katowice 2019](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rzAipCZNv9I/mqdefault.jpg)
Some guy on reddit says “not even Serral can stop SoO from being 2nd” lmao
@@JL-ef7bh not even Serral can stop soO from being the champion
Andrew Gunner which is why I took it back.
The blood of Serral lifted his curse.
@@JL-ef7bh LOL, just because he lost 1 focken match in 1 year, doesn't mean he has been stopped lmao. He's still the best.
ELSebinho Trollbane stop being fanboy. I never said he wasn’t the best. There were multiple factors on why he got beaten despite being the best. It’s the nature of eSports. Nobody can be the “best” for long. There’s always a counter to any strategy. You should know that if you’re a StarCraft 2 player.
@@RoAF_Dev_Team stop beeing such an angry stobborn guy
All jeremy made was a joke to a meme, i found it funny
Game 1 5:10
Game 2 15:30
Game 3 26:40
Game 4 55:50
Game 5 1:11:29
This is the best match I've seen so far in 2019. Hats off to both players for this phenomenal match!
WOOOOOWWW!!!!! What an incredible series. Normally I don't especially enjoy watching ZvZ, but that had me on the edge of my seat the whole time.
Game 3 will go down as the greatest ZvZ of all time.
And possibly the whole series as the best ZvZ series of all time. Absolutely incredible. I'm gobsmacked.
still think the final of Soo-Rouge zvz last year is the best. But you re right about that game 3, sick game, no doubt greatest ZvZ all time..
THIS is why I watch SC2! The level of play from both of these guys is incredible. Game 3 might be the best ZvZ I’ve ever seen from a technical perspective. Also, even with everything happening in all of the games this series is, hands down, some of the best observing I’ve ever seen. I don’t know who was observing but PROPS! Being able to keep track of all the game play and then on top of that listening to the commentators to pull up relavent screens and checking upgrades and the like, super excellent. One thing I noticed around 22:22, when Todd was talking about roach burrow-maybe he was talking about micro in general but the roaches don’t regen health faster in this patch than regular Zerg regen (when burrowed) right? Thank you ESL for posting this. Incredible production all around and incredible games. THANK YOU!
The "look at his supplyyyyy!!!" yell at 1:07:26 was the absolute best incarnation that we will ever hear, ever.
Single-handedly the best bo5 this year so far.
Game 3 was sick, but 5 games of roach ravager got real old.
only if you believe SC2 means Roach Ravager, boring AF.
@yeah. Korean: *beats Serral in one set*
Y'all: "Alright, its over boys. Pack it up. We're going home."
@yeah. lol...
Game 3 top 3 zvzs of all time and best game of the year
Game 3 might even be the best game of all time... That game was even from minute 1 till the end of the game... Just sick! When the game finally ends both got like less than 20 supply wow...
Dark v Serral I think are close as well
Simply wanted to rewatch this match, just after Rogue completely outsmarted his opponents this year, and then realize how much I miss you Geoff.
GGWP sir, always be by your side, despite my awful French accent ofc
SoO my boy what an incredible moment
amazing series, game 3 is definitely best game of the year so far, so happy to see soO get the win!
Beat game of this year.. Check out 3rd game. From serreal vs. Innovation
The caster give Serral so much credits in the beginning of the game like how he gonna move to the Ro4 and beat Hero...... and out of nowhere SoO just shut all of them up and win the entire thing!
Yeah they tend to be a bit partial in my opinion and then change their attitude towards whoevers winning at the moment
I consider game 3 the game of the year. Well played by both players and especially impressive for Serral to climb back the way he did.
From 19:30 and for a minute or so the obs keeps showing us how Serral hasn't managed to scout the Lair, but the freaking Roach Warren is researching Roach speed right in front of Serral's lings. He sees it twitching! He knows that the Lair is around.
I’ve never seen a game that down to the last one unit in 10 years of playing sc.
There are some of those back during HotS but yeah, you don't get to see it very often.
I havnt played star craft, but I got hooked watching it. So Im not familiar with all its rules/mechanics.
3rd game Why is it called the Last Unit? Cant they reproduce more?
@@kk.5512 They were almost out of minerals, the currency used to build buildings and units. And even if they could, it would only drag the game for 5 more minutes and the one trying to reproduce more would die regardless because the opponent would have bigger army
i see it all the time, me pressing f2 and only one fuckin overseer showed up.
If it bleeds, you can kill it.
Thu 'Phugg you can milk anything with nipples.
@@JTD472 I can't milk myself though
Its bittersweet to see and hear Incontrol commentating... Star Craft lost one of its best... Too soon... It goes without saying that tis sport will never be the same!!! R.I.P INCONTROL!!!😢😢😢
soO：Before Finals (Bo7) am i unbeatable!!!
hahahaha now soO might able get his GSL code S title this season ?
Soong WanJun He might able to get 7th second place in gsl code S.
soO : Disregard I went 2-3 in the group stage!
Game 3 was FLAMES yo
Respect to both Players they play at their best ~
Have you watched the game? Serral literally A moved and it cost him at least 2 engagements and games... lul
Lol noone lets them wi n... That sort of conspiracy is like maatch fixing with bbong and gerard
this is really a fantastic series. best in the tournament so far.
Rogue vs Serral in BlizzCon 2018 had some long, intensely close, and creative games using all tech including nydus, dropperlords, burrowed roaches. IMO better set, but Game 3 of this So0 vs Serral set was the best Roach Ravager vs Roach Ravager ZvZ of all time
game 3 was incredible. rare toe to toe game. Serral is still the best player in the world, the only way to put him down is ZvZ, and I'm thinking it since last year. Being the most mirror match of the mirror matches, ZvZ is open to defeat for anyone, including Serral sometimes. soO is an incredible player, but Serral went the distance also vs Reynor, Scarlett and JonSnow in WCS Montreal, it's just the way the matchup is designed.
I hope soo win the trophy
He is IMBA before the finals lol
he did
수장님 준결승까진 세랄도 막을수 없다!!!!
SOO's micro is tenfold what it was a couple years ago
600 roaches died in 27 minute and 3 survived, THIS IS WAR.
INTENSE game 3, dayum!!
The casters asked the question, "What makes Serral better than his competition?" I think it's his ability to process tactical information in real time. He understands the map more classically, like a chess player, and he values positional play. He almost never takes a bad fight and reacts well to the changing tides. I feel that's why Serral is superior to his competition, most of whom have a tendency to play like StarCraft players who are less familiar with classic strategy games.
I've seen over and over again players cede the middle of the map to Serral without contest, almost as if they don't understand the significance of centralized map control. It doesn't hurt that Zerg gets creep and nydus...
So nice to have casters who actually know what they're talking about instead of Tasteless's 'You need to have more bases if you want to mine more minerals'
To be fair Artosis is extremely knowledgeable. Tastless is really just there for comedy and their great dynamic
Serral ( Thanos voice ) all that for a drop of blood ?
SPOILER
1:21:33 Respect. Serral knows he has some things he could learn from this fantastic Korean zerg. I hope for at least a Best of 5 rematch someday for these two stellar athletes.
Well, the day has come mate and it's gonna be lame af
Does anyone know the 'Adrenaline' song that plays at the introduction??
I dont know :(
Game 3 is so fucking intense lol. Games like these are so rare and Soo must have ice water in his veins for not losing his cool at any given point of time in that round.
Everyone knows that hero drone won the second game for soO 23:00
FELT LIKE THIS WAS THE FINAL. WOW
I haven't played ina while, why do neither player get burrow for roach healing?
I was wondering the same.. Or burrow run away. Its been awhile. I think it's because they want to make ravangers
what an insane game to watch from both epic players, congratz to soo for the win i did not expect that!
That 3rd game, ... wow crazy
Does anyone know the bgm name staring at 2:30? that's epic for this bo5
Pure Adrenaline - Ashley Warren Bjorn Nilsson, you can listen it here www.universalproductionmusic.com/en-row/discover/albums/16266/Positivity
Pig and Tod are both so great together as casters
It’s weird hearing an Aussie accent so far from home and I just love how excited they both get
@ESL please sort your playlists chronologically in the future. The outcome of this match was completely spoiled by Neeb vs Stats commentary, which plays before this match. Otherwise, great show!
Serral has never won an IEM Katowice championship, he will need to rectify that with a vengeance in 2020.
Serral still has a few goals to achieve to be the undisputed GOAT, that even Serral haters have little choice but accept it begrudgingly.
A GSL Code S, a IEM Katowice and it would be massive if he won another WCS global championship.
(Even Though he has set a few records already with one of the longest winning streaks, 5 x back to back championships and the very first foreigner to win the WCS global final ending Korea’s reign)
soO, the man who is invincible before the final. XD
So, even Serral can bleed?
He did good for one year... so ya he can a lot
Soo before the finals..
@07.38 The answer to ToD's question is; Insane cognitive response, over average hand/eye coorditation, young age, skill, and probably some dedication. Cheers, great casting! Edit: Progressive high IQ!
Soo- the god before finals
No one would believe me, but when i saw n the Bracket soO vs Serral i said to my friends"This is the only guy that can kill Serral if somene can, in this tourament" and here we are haha Lol ...
What an EPIC / HEAVY / SOLID play by soO lol! :) He's the Roach Master - even Serral is no match for his Roach combos hahah - try different style agains soO, but no roach vs roach :) Obviously ...
GG to both Grande players!! What an epic games to watch . Respect :))
The game 3 was so EVEN at 20 stages of the match .... every single Drone and Limit was equal ... after some dozen of fights and every single time Drones and limits was equall LOL :))) !!! This was IMPRESSIVE to watch never seen such thing :))
Kinda sad Inno gets no credit for breaking the streak, his games against Serral on the group stages were amazing.
Yep, I put soO on the short list of players who stand a chance against Serral. If soO has one strong thing about him, other than seemingly immortal until the finals, is his ZvZ roach play. There are so many games where he will be down in army supply, attack across the map into superior numbers and defender's advantage, and just barrel through. He wins roach v roach games where, on paper, he is "supposed to lose".
@@Matthew-uv6gl Absolutely! Perfectly said!
it is funny though current GSL SoO said he would want to avoid Rogue if possible Vs dark Vs other class he is fine & we know SoO ZVZ is one of his best not saying Vs T or P is weak but rogue
Best z vs z in my life
If that match is the final match I was gonna say soO has lost again, but it was Ro8, so I will say that soO has won again!
Best LOTV ZvZ roach fight ever. Might could have been best ZvZ if matches had more than just roach fights.
who was casting this? great job.
lmao everyone in the crowd at the end looked so upset
Can't blame em. People are tired of South Korea winning for so many years.
RIP iNcontroL
Serral is just so fucking good at this game. It really is incredible.
He just lost
But not good enough he was.
You mean Soo?? XD
And then he lost
No, Serral is really really fucking good. Soo was just a millimeter better.
So was that upgrade mistake serrals downfall or would it have not mattered?
He was out micro'd. Soo got better biles and dodged better.
Damn good series! Also imho pig is the best commentator would love to see him more
Guess things are back to Normal again. Just a bunch of Koreans fighting for the championship
Don't think so. Serral still on the top of his game. soO just really good at ZvZ. Other foreigners are also stepping up their game. lets wait for a few years for the players to develop and they can go head-to-head with the koreans and maybe win championships
@@kentdimacali5808 Serral is Korean.. There is no way he can play that well.
We'll see in WESG in 10 days.
@@OpiatesAndTits Well if it involves China, I'll take our overlords in South Korea over them any day hands down. Never have nor will be a fan of China until that mess of a country stop's it's South China Sea dumpster fire and allow me people there to use WInnie the Pooh however they see fit!
those koreans study serra's fighting style, engage style, economy style and even timing all day man
Why serral dont give a try further in the second game? Maybe SoO have mic mistakes
Soo have the bigger army furthermore better upgrade this is SoO we are talking not other WCS players where you can come back with serral skills
For me the best Zerg player before he got arrested at a young age and shoot to prison is Life.
Serral Versus Life Zerg against Zerg what do you think will be the outcome?
Is this the first series Serral has dropped since his rein began??
No, Inno got him in the group stage 2-1.
Also lost to neeb I think in star ladder ultimate series
Homeboy360 oooh I wish I could find that series; I love PvT. Neeb is our boy!
Homeboy360 thank you
Where’s the interview?
Serral is just a beast with awesome spidy senses!
Why does the game let your enemy see where a ravager is going to drop a fireball? Always felt they should take that out to make it more effective...
just because he lost 1 focken match in 1 year, doesn't mean he has been stopped lmao. He's still the best.
@@fatboyjr364 Well he is the best non-Coreean player tho.
5:34
why is soo's game so dark?
Starcraft is my all time fav game besides GTA5. I played Starcraft 1 for 8 years! Played the computer mostly but I got to fighting two brutals and I’m beat. I liked creating my own battles in world editor.
360P???
First day on RUclips?
The_eXodis lmfao
Can someone explain to me why serral surrendered game 2? After the casters praising his ability to come back from every situation that seemed weird
He moved command his army toward soO's army so they were not attacking and soO started killing them. That army will be dead and soO will walk toward his base and kill him.
I came here cause SOO said that this was the toughest game this series
Jesus, that game 3 was nuts.
What does DeMuslim even mean when he says ”soO doesnt like mechanics at all” at 1.45 and then says ”when you look at his hand on his keyboard it looks crazy and phenomenal” ????
I think he means soO is less good at late macro games compared to Serral (he's the best). But soO's micro is very good and his hands show it.
@@revolutionalist that is macro, mechanics usually mean micro-managment of your units
He said soo doesn't LACK mechanics at all.
just some sub-tier announcing, don't read too much into it
Players I want to see defeat Serral are as follows. Ender Zerg player from Philippines. Polt Terran player from Korea, Bomber, CJ Hero, Jaedong and flash but it is bad that these two are now retired.
Well, the one obvious mistake in the last round is sort of disappointing!
that was intense! beautiful games!
OMFG - that 3rd game!!!
I had to check the year again when the commentator used "off the chain".
The third game was really to last drop of blood and breath
What I kinda wondered during the 3rd game was, why nobody build infestors- with one or two good fungles they'd have exposed the roaches to the revenger biles 🤔
Good point, I think if soO built infestors, the vipers would just snatch them instantly and roaches focus them down though. The fact the vipers exist uncontested makes them such a versatile support unit in that army situation
@@maleable11 I get your point, but I meant infestors not as replacement for the vipers but as additional support unit. Theoretically the infestors could've also neuraled the vipers, but well, that's getting more tricky and requires also an additional upgrade. However the infestors themselves are already available just like that at this stage of the game.
soOral is the best.
Even the best player loses once in a while. No big deal.
I love how casters are praising Serral the entire time lol. Hope they realize no one can reign forever.
1:21:24 Look at all those excited people
why no lurker ???
Expensive + target fire from ravagers gets them down easily.
Got the feeling Serral gave Soo games... Maybe He betted money on the games. I play terran and are Korean, still why did not Serral expand or abduct more in game three? And that gg in second game despite he had upgraded deficits. Many things did not make sense at all.
No comment? Dang people shocked serral lost?
Serral and sos doesnt look healthy at all especially gumiho evolution i always have bad feelin on their match in tournament 😥
issa the red bull energydrink with lean also finnish education bruh
5:35 it starts
I really wish they didn't do the esports vanity shot intros. They just look so.... uncomfortably awkward. lol
47:12
2:30
All these dead pixels on those big ass screens cmon man...
pretty exciting for ZvZ
wait......... whut? finland got nerfed that fast?
soO is G O D
THE GAME 3 DoE 🔥🔥🔥
24:06 is Soo not playing with control groups?
That's some nice caster's curse dude
I see Serral I watch.
soO: for my sister, for my family!!!