Alien Rides hi from Russia. I think the wheels are very small and without air will be very hard for driver. This scooter very good only for smooth road.
@@LuxWheel Hello! Agree that they aren't as comfortable as pneumatic tires, but for a smallish scooter I find it a reasonable ride. I wouldn't want this scooter for off-roading though.
I think the Zero 8X is probably the best in the "wide wheel" class... but then no one has done a review/comparison with the Dualtron Compact - nudge, nudge.... :-)
Remember the lighter the scooter the more vibration passes through to YOU. In Bike while practicing for races I opted for a Univega all chromolly steel bike which weighed a good 40 lbs over carbon fiber. It just soaked up bumps and tiny pot holes. On race day it was back to the Carbon fiber bike. Weight can be a good thing.
I love my wide wheel pro 2020. I’m commuting to Manhattan from queens everyday and sometimes I go top speed and it’s a trill ride. I feel like I’m going to fly very stable as the wide wheels provide that good traction nothing stop it on his way small rocks, pot holes, bumps , any small object I just roll over with a 1000 watts power I get compliments with such a cool looking scooter.
I made a mistake and wrote a bad review about these folks. And instead of getting angry they made lighter of it by saying that I must have gotten mixed up. And I can live with that. The fact that they didn't get angry back at me means that they have a higher quality to customer service right off the bat.
That sounds like a really unfortunate experience. We are proud to have staff to always pick up and answer the phone, I guess you were calling fluidfree ride? They should work on that. 👽🖖
@@AlienRides thank you for responding. I am very sorry that I got you mixed up with someone else. I'll write something nice and delete this and again, thank you for responding. Maybe I will order from you instead then. I was just going to purchase from rev rides but they're out of stock.
This is the first video i've seen to go up a real hill. Cant believe you made it over. Now I got an idea of what to buy since I live in a very steep hill
Easy tip : buy a roll of non slip grip sticky back tape & cut & fit to the rear standing overhang , it helps with rear foot grip - especially in the wet
What's up bro! Another great video👍. I figured I would go to the beach today. 7 mi in got a rear flat. I nursed it all the way home. So I figured I'd put on the PMT's. Put about 10 local miles on it testing them out breaking them in. I kept hearing a humming noise coming from the back I went home and took off the fender no more humming noise. I guess the way they push the air. Oh well I don't ride in wet conditions anyways. The tires are real nice. They're smooth, silent an excellent grip. It turns on a rail now. I'll let you know how it goes when I put some more miles on them. 👍✌
Hey man! Nice excuse to put on the PMTs I guess. I only have experience with them on the Rion, but man are they awesome. Turning is so amazing with them, it feels like you can always go deeper in the turn. I’m still not sure how deep you can really get in a turn with them, but I’m sure I’ll find out one day when I go too far 😬
@@AlienRides yeah I hear what you're saying there more round then the CST's. I'm not pushing it too much either at least right now. Need more time on them. Supposed to rain down here till Saturday night. I'll try to the beach run again Sunday👍✌
gotta 2020ww cle blast to ride hard on corners so caution till you get the ratios , stay outta ludicris mode till you get corners down. watch slippery surfaces in rain .hills ? fugettabadit the beast wins everytime.
Honestly for the almost the same price I would get the Apollo Ghost! Dual 800 watts bigger more powerful battery and better suspension and the under deck lighting is a nice touch also.
Thank you! It's about time someone shows going up a hill in SF. Also, I've heard the turns are a bit difficult at first with the wide wheels, and the stem gets wobbly over time. Did u experience that at all? Just wondering...
I have not had the stem wobble, but I've only put 200-300 miles on it probably. Turning felt fine to me, but maybe on sharp turns you get up on the edge of the wheel so you lose a little bit of traction. Still think this is a great option if you're looking for a lower priced dual motor scooter. The E-twow GT is also a great option, but maybe not as good on hills as this one.
yess actual HILL CLIMB my house's steep hill is everywhere, so now i know single motor and power below 1000 is not an option! please get a dual motor on the same steep test
First off, this is a great video, you are one of the leading channels in electronic scooters. I just don’t understand how you got only 24MPH? Mine easily hits 28MPH. And all of them should hit 26MPH. Many people who test the wide wheels top speed, test it under 50v. Charge it to 54v+ and then change it to ludicrous mode. Than you should be going 26+ MPH! To change software Hole down one brake lever, cruise control, and power button at the same time. Than go click power button once to turn on P1, 01. And to set it click and hold both power and cruise control.
Yup, good point about the speed test, we were definitely in ludicrous mode. I think the rider weight and conditions can easily account for a few mph difference. 28 mph is easily doable downhill for example, but not on flat ground for me. Still a good little scooter.
Alien Rides, the savior of the East Coast scooter riders. And we are getting some serious cabin fever out here omg lol. Have you done this with a Dualtron X, I know it would make it just wonder how fast.
Hah yeah, Dualtron X would rocket up this hill quickly, not sure at what speed though, I'll have to test it :) Why cabin fever? Bad weather out there now? :(
@@AlienRides Too dang cold to ride with the wind hitting you, even in the high 50s it feels cold, but the 30s would be brutal. Or maybe I'm a col weather wuss...I have started to considered that. lol
I was thiiiis close to getting a wide wheel pro, but ended up going for a e-twow GT because it's almost HALF the weight. I have to carry it up 4 floors of stairs for work making it also easier to carry in shops, too.
EUCs are awesome vehicles for sure, and this year is a great year to get into them. I like to ride everything and will do videos on everything in the future.
Hot damn, that has to be the steepest city hill I ever seen. Has a unicycle ever made it up the hill? If so, which one(s)? Oh yeah, that drone footage is fabulous.
It’s steep! You can make it to the top on an EUC, I’ve done it on both my Nikola and monster. I’m searching for a more steep hill now that we’ve conquered this one!
Widewheel pro should come with semi pneumatic tires on 2021 so it can go off-road too. They should upgrade the light and brakes to hydraulic or regen. It’s almost at its max potential for its price. Hopefully next year they will make some changes. There’s so much you can do with a scooter, but every plus you add, create a negative. And every negative you add creates a positive.
Great video.I travelled on that street.Too much of a wide wheel has more friction thus less speed specially uphill.Have you tried narrower wheels uphills?Also uses more battery power. Thank you,see you again.
That’s a good question, I feel that the Speedway V suspension might be a bit more stiff, but overall might be more smooth thanks to the pneumatic tires.
Hello, it's possible to get a google maps link to the city climb you used for the test. Im curious about the real % of incline of that street. Thank you
i have been hoping someone will test the dualtron thunder up a hill like this at top speed. that hill is a good hill for scooter tests. i am getting the dualtron this spring.
The Dualtron Thunder is a beast and will rocket up steep hills. Maybe not at 50, but 25-35 mph depending on grade. I've got a Thunder and will try to do some hill climb videos in the future. You're going to love your scooter!
@@AlienRides Thanks for the answer! The fact is that in Italy electric scooter to be allowed to go in public streets must have a 500w motor so I fear I could have some issue with it, that's why I was asking.. Thanks anyway!
hey i just got a ninebot ES4. it’s not fast enough though for me at 18mph and a single motor just isn’t enough. i’m not trynna break the bank and go in the 3s yet. so anywhere from 1k-1.6k would be enough.
Yeah getting a scooter is dangerous because there's always a faster or bigger one to get 😅 I think the WideWheel pro could be a good option for you, great power for the price.
I'll see if we can do that! The Speedway V would absolutely rip up the hill no problem because it's even more powerful than the WideWheel, but it would be a fun video to make.
It's a bit hard to customize e-scooters, especially the handlebars, but doable if you are handy. Best place to start might be bike accessories. You can attach most to the handlebars.
The earlier generations of this scooter got me into personal EVs. I was excited to buy one, but eventually got lured away from the idea by an EUC. I am happy with the decision I made, but I still think the Mercane Wide Wheel is a terrific looking scooter!
Hey, I know they are different, but which one would you recommend. I ride a motorcycle around the Bay Area and San Francisco. However, sometimes I take the Shared scooters to get around the neighborhood in SF. I work about 1,8 miles from work. I’ve been thinking about the onewheel for the longest time, but then I saw the widewheel, I was impressed. Which one to get? - I need to be able to fit it on my motorcycle - I want to be able to get quickly around the neighborhood - sometimes take it to work - and when I travel I’d like to take it with as well I’ve taken the lime scooter from the Marina District to Financial district without any issues fitting between traffic downtown. I wonder, could I do it on the onewheel as well?
Scooters are really awesome for sure, but I'm not sure about fitting it on your motorcycle. I do think that a onewheel could get you around most trips around town, but personally I'd actually recommend an electric unicycle. Probably the most power in a small package you can find. What do you think about the EUCs? Bit of a learning curve, but we can help.
@@AlienRides they are on backorder and won't be shipped till Oct 20...must be a prized possession??? wow!! I want both scooter and Skydio 2 now. thanks for the review, best one yet!!!
How did the folding handlebars feel when riding,returned the one I bought the wife due to 1 of the bars disengaging and dropping down.It is an awesome 2 wheeler though.Nice weather ✌️
That's unfortunate about the handlebars. Mine felt ok, but I only rode this scooter for a few days so far. I did notice that the handlebar locking mechanism didn't feel the most sturdy when you unfold them. I sort of looked at them and said, "that's it?". No issues with the short period of time I rode it for though. Still dreaming and being antsy about the SSR 🤤.
I think it is a pretty good scooter, but it is a bit jerky. You are a bit heavier, so something like the apollo ghost or kaabo mantis might be a better choice for you. :alienRides:
I have been riding this this whole past week! I have a few questions for you: 1: does 2020 pro have a ludicrous mode? 2: how do you go on cruise mode? 3: the California street ride, was that on power mode?
There is a speed mode, the apollo guys did a good video of enabling it, I think they talk about cruise control also: ruclips.net/video/6SR_a9jwHWI/видео.html For my test, the speed setting was maxed.
Good questions, I haven't tried the pacer, but at a glance it seems that the WideWheel will have higher torque due to two motors and be able to climb hills better, while the pacer might have a bit of a higher top speed. The pacer would have air-fillted tires, making it more of a smooth ride compared to the WideWheel. Both seem like they could be great scooters.
Onewheel is amazing gadget. I regret it zero percent. I have both the XR and pint. But make no mistake, the XR is great for trails, and the pint is amazing for everyday use “locally”. They are not good commuters in my opinion. I can’t imagine a life without my Onewheel but I wouldn’t like to use it as a commuter unless my work was under 4-5 miles
@@sidjtd....I meant Wide Wheel, but yes XR and Pint look amazing. I so want the WideWheel duel motor, retails for about a thousand. If anyone on here owns a duel or single WWheel let me know how you like or dislike. Ty
@@AlienRides of course. Always great reviews. I have ridden the boosted rev, but have not ridden this scooter. How does the widewheel pro compare to the boosted rev speed/acceleration wise? Ride comfort wise? And range wise? Which do you like better and why? I think maybe splurging a bit more and going for a zero 8x or mantis base would give you better range/ performance than a wide wheel pro right?
Gregory Patzelt it feels like this scooter has about similar power to the boosted rev, I get about the same top speed on both, 24 mph or so. I think this scooter should do a bit better range wise too. At a lower price, I think the wide wheel wins over the rev.
@@AlienRides where it gets really hard is where to stop your budget as you can spend a bit more and get a zero 8x, mantis, dualtron raptor 2/ the new dualtron eagle, or even a speedway 5. I had the same issue with electric skateboards and ended up buying 4 different level boards lol.
Gregory Patzelt yeah, there’s so much selection that it’s hard to decide when to stop... you can always spend just a few more bills for a faster/longer range ride. But if you can afford it, go big from day 1! 😬
Great video. Do you know what its like riding this thing in wet conditions ? I've heard its not really suited for wet conditions but I don't know if that means it's impossible or just requires extra care.
Yeah, good point. The airless tires does make it a bit more slippery on rain, but it is totally doable. Just need to be careful when turning and accelerating for the most part. It's generally a good idea to not ride scooters in downpour conditions, but a light drizzle should be fine.
@@AlienRides In that case I'll probably go with this scooter because a bit of extra care in wet conditions in return for never having to worry about flats seems like a fair trade off to me. Thanks so much for your reply.
@@AlienRides it really is i need to calm down have my eye on another 2 but thet serious cash because of brand name , but what I want my design, arhhhh I have weed a addiction , drink addiction, now a scooter addiction am much more happy with this new addiction of mine. i will stop some day roughly this year or next . the other 2 scoooters i have am happy with they have decent power and nice range , happy scooting bro stay safe................................ ps i had to edit this just seen this now a year later when repy i was drunk my grammar was so ba for that would like to apologise for my actions am smart man respecful , the way i wrote made me look look really stupid and made me look like a real drunk or something i am not. i manged to get me 2 , 2400w eclectic scooters . 45mph , 52v 18ah battery 35 miles range really happy i paid 2000.00 for both of them am really happy with the deal i got have 60-70 miles range in total on full charge using both now thats crazy good. k safe am gone #UK
Yeah, that's an awesome idea. Would be great to be able to measure both the battery and motor temperature. I'll have to see how we can do this in the future!
How tall and heavy are you? Just considdering the speeds you had on those steep uphill parts. I`m considdering getting one for myself so just gotta ask before i decide
That's a good question, I think it's this one by a bit, since it's got two motors. 👽🖖
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Can you do a hill climb vid on the Mantis. Thats a scooter I really like. Im doing my best to save up what little money I have so that hopefully sometime in the next year or so I can purchase one.
Hey man, great review. How does it fare uphill in eco mode? And have you ridden it extensively in eco mode for a realistic mileage? I take the advertised max range with a huge grain of salt lol
Thanks for stopping by! You definitely get more range in eco mode compared to turbo, especially if you ride it slower. I haven't ridden this extensively in eco mode, as I max out all of my scooters. I typically just say to take the advertised range and cut it in half.
The advertised range is in "no-rider" situation. In other words, it is in "idle speed" situation with e-scooter sitting high on the bar stool without wheels touching the floor till the end of juice from battery.
Awesome kev!, I finally decided to cancel my Order in China to get That scooter and now i have a dualtron 2 with a Lots of Upgrades 🤟🏿. Anyways WW pro is a excelent Choice for the Price
Depends on how long your commute is and how fast you want to go. This one is a pretty good option! For some more power and speed look into either the Eagle Pro or Kaabo Mantis.
@@AlienRides right on thanks bro I appreciate your reply as always! Update** so my fixed position es4 is holding up great had it hacked to do 20mph and soldered the fuse that always blows and it's great accept it's slow and no rear suspension haaa. Need something way faster and suspension would be sweet! That hill you climbed on that wide wheel was impressive and the what 35 MPH all for 1100.00 sounds like my next scoot before I drive into a Rion... If you ever come to Utah lmk we can hit some epic riding up in Park City Utah!! Would be awesome content for your channel!!
Question: I'm only gonna drive in eco-mode. Can I configure this scooter so that eco-mode becomes the default mode? Or do I have to toggle it to eco-mode each and every new session?
That's a good question and for some reason I thought it started in eco mode, but maybe not. I don't know off the top of my head but hopefully someone can chime in!
Ah, so do they sell another option with a single motor? I probably won't have a chance to get my hands on it, but I can ask around. I imagine it's very similar, maybe just a bit less power?
Hello, I also bought one. My scooter will emit low-frequency noise similar to helicopter propellers in the speed range of 26-29 km/h, which is at the highest speed in the eco mode. Does your scooter have this problem?
Thanks for the video! I would definitely take the Widewheel Pro over a Boosted Rev. Now that I have a few hundred miles on my base Mantis I am definitely happy I picked it up. I love being able to keep up with most San Francisco traffic on the Mantis. When I need the portability I go back to my Speedway Mini-IV or Ecoreco L5+. Now that I have grown accustomed to the Mantis on BART I have been using it as my daily commuter more often. Since I have the reverse commute on BART I don't need to fold my scooter up as much so the Mantis has been working out. Perhaps there are some more extreme hills in Potrero. They may not be as long as California but I believe the grade is greater. I know one of my e-bikes had no problem with California but I think it was the top of Mississippi street that stalled it out.
Yeah the Mantis is awesome, and it's cool that you don't have a problem bringing it bart. Thanks for the tip on the hill, ideally a long and steep hill would be ideal. Or maybe I can test on a mountain like Mt Tam or something 🤔
@@AlienRides I did a lot of mountain biking back in the day on and around Tam. I don't recall super steep roads. They had to make sure people could traverse most roads under normal human power bicycles. The Potrero hill streets have some length to them and definitely have the steepness. Another thing you should show is the ability to safely go down those hills. I would never want to go down with anything that didn't have dual disc brakes :)
Alien Rides got mine from Apollo (Canada) got the upgraded throttle too it came with key also. I too have the throttle lag problem, hope they’ll have some kind of control box upgrade. Also batteries are Chinese hope they last. I live in Brooklyn NY, government recently legalized e scooters here. Helps so much with short commute and groceries))) Thanks to your video i was able to make up my mind ! Thank you very much!!!
@Alien Rides Check this out.....maybe try it out and possibly provide an update if you still have the scoot. :) ruclips.net/video/6SR_a9jwHWI/видео.html
Just discovered your channel. Great videos! Really like your unbias reviews. Interested to know what you think of the Widewheel Pro 2020 vs Zero 9? Both seem to be around the same price.
Thanks for stopping by! I haven't tried the Zero 9 yet myself, but it actually looks cheaper. (Even more so with the "alienrides" discount on revrides.com.) It also only sports a single motor, so you aren't going to have as much power, but it is more lightweight. Overall it seems like it could be a solid commuter option.
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Alien Rides hi from Russia. I think the wheels are very small and without air will be very hard for driver. This scooter very good only for smooth road.
@@LuxWheel Hello! Agree that they aren't as comfortable as pneumatic tires, but for a smallish scooter I find it a reasonable ride. I wouldn't want this scooter for off-roading though.
8 to 10in wheel for cracks and such
I think the Zero 8X is probably the best in the "wide wheel" class... but then no one has done a review/comparison with the Dualtron Compact - nudge, nudge.... :-)
Nice scooter very informative.. Can you review the nanrobot D4+2.0
Many thanks
I was cheering for the scooter to see it make it to the top of California street. Excellent review with the nice footage and narration!
Thanks for stopping by! More scooter reviews coming soon! 👽🖖
One of the main reasons you need a scooter in a small city like San Francisco is the hills. Scooters are a lifesaver. Great video
Thanks, definitely gotta get up those hills. 👽🖖
Remember the lighter the scooter the more vibration passes through to YOU. In Bike while practicing for races I opted for a Univega all chromolly steel bike which weighed a good 40 lbs over carbon fiber. It just soaked up bumps and tiny pot holes.
On race day it was back to the Carbon fiber bike. Weight can be a good thing.
I left my heart in San Francisco. One of the many reasons I live watching your reviews and tours.
Wooka Wooka and ride!
Thanks for stopping by! Love San Francisco, great little spot to ride :)
Alien, I like the mellow music along with the mellow voice.. nice calm, soothing review! 😉
Thank you for the feedback and comment! ⚡️💪
I love my wide wheel pro 2020. I’m commuting to Manhattan from queens everyday and sometimes I go top speed and it’s a trill ride. I feel like I’m going to fly very stable as the wide wheels provide that good traction nothing stop it on his way small rocks, pot holes, bumps , any small object I just roll over with a 1000 watts power I get compliments with such a cool looking scooter.
Awesome, sounds like you are putting it to good use! It’s definitely a good looking scooter!
I made a mistake and wrote a bad review about these folks. And instead of getting angry they made lighter of it by saying that I must have gotten mixed up. And I can live with that. The fact that they didn't get angry back at me means that they have a higher quality to customer service right off the bat.
That sounds like a really unfortunate experience. We are proud to have staff to always pick up and answer the phone, I guess you were calling fluidfree ride? They should work on that. 👽🖖
@@AlienRides thank you for responding. I am very sorry that I got you mixed up with someone else. I'll write something nice and delete this and again, thank you for responding. Maybe I will order from you instead then. I was just going to purchase from rev rides but they're out of stock.
This is the first video i've seen to go up a real hill. Cant believe you made it over. Now I got an idea of what to buy since I live in a very steep hill
Yup, this one or a vsett 9+ would do great on steep hills. 👽🖖
My MATE X just showed up a few weeks ago and I Love it. I need a Wide Wheel next!!!! Love this machine!
It’s fun for sure. Hope you are enjoying your new ride! ⚡️💪
FINALLY!
Just the e-scooter I need to conquer Mt. Everest.
Great vids; excellent review! Thanks.
Love from Indonesia.
Thank you for stopping by! That would be a fun challenge, design a scooter able to climb Mt. Everest 😅
California St is a good benchmark test for all electric scooters. Thanks for reviewing this scooter.
Indeed, we loved testing there in the past. 👽🖖
Easy tip : buy a roll of non slip grip sticky back tape & cut & fit to the rear standing overhang , it helps with rear foot grip - especially in the wet
Great tip, thanks for sharing. 👽🖖
I live on a boat and I’m sailing around the world with 2 Widewheel Pro’s
I love it as does my sweetheart.
That's awesome, sounds like the ideal life!
Off The Starboard Hull that's awesome!! How do I do that?
What's up bro! Another great video👍. I figured I would go to the beach today. 7 mi in got a rear flat. I nursed it all the way home. So I figured I'd put on the PMT's. Put about 10 local miles on it testing them out breaking them in. I kept hearing a humming noise coming from the back I went home and took off the fender no more humming noise. I guess the way they push the air. Oh well I don't ride in wet conditions anyways. The tires are real nice. They're smooth, silent an excellent grip. It turns on a rail now. I'll let you know how it goes when I put some more miles on them. 👍✌
Hey man! Nice excuse to put on the PMTs I guess. I only have experience with them on the Rion, but man are they awesome. Turning is so amazing with them, it feels like you can always go deeper in the turn. I’m still not sure how deep you can really get in a turn with them, but I’m sure I’ll find out one day when I go too far 😬
@@AlienRides yeah I hear what you're saying there more round then the CST's. I'm not pushing it too much either at least right now. Need more time on them. Supposed to rain down here till Saturday night. I'll try to the beach run again Sunday👍✌
Another good review. Thumbs up also welcome once again to ESC. We are looking forward to a group ride in the future.
Thanks! ⚡️💪
gotta 2020ww cle blast to ride hard on corners so caution till you get the ratios , stay outta ludicris mode till you get corners down. watch slippery surfaces in rain .hills ? fugettabadit the beast wins everytime.
Sounds like great advice, thanks for sharing. 👽🖖
I got the same and alittle ludicrous rash to prove it.no more flats.
Honestly for the almost the same price I would get the Apollo Ghost! Dual 800 watts bigger more powerful battery and better suspension and the under deck lighting is a nice touch also.
Yeah for sure, this was out a long time before the apollo ghost, but the apollo ghost is a great alternative. It is a little bigger though.
had the ghost. flat rear tire every couple months great otherwise but flogged it and no more flats with my ww cle 2020.
Thank you! It's about time someone shows going up a hill in SF. Also, I've heard the turns are a bit difficult at first with the wide wheels, and the stem gets wobbly over time. Did u experience that at all? Just wondering...
I have not had the stem wobble, but I've only put 200-300 miles on it probably. Turning felt fine to me, but maybe on sharp turns you get up on the edge of the wheel so you lose a little bit of traction. Still think this is a great option if you're looking for a lower priced dual motor scooter. The E-twow GT is also a great option, but maybe not as good on hills as this one.
yess actual HILL CLIMB my house's steep hill is everywhere, so now i know single motor and power below 1000 is not an option! please get a dual motor on the same steep test
Yup, you definitely need a strong dual motor scooter. I might recommend the vsett 9+ or 10+, both great dual motor scooters. 👽🖖
First off, this is a great video, you are one of the leading channels in electronic scooters.
I just don’t understand how you got only 24MPH? Mine easily hits 28MPH. And all of them should hit 26MPH.
Many people who test the wide wheels top speed, test it under 50v. Charge it to 54v+ and then change it to ludicrous mode. Than you should be going 26+ MPH!
To change software
Hole down one brake lever, cruise control, and power button at the same time. Than go click power button once to turn on P1, 01. And to set it click and hold both power and cruise control.
Yup, good point about the speed test, we were definitely in ludicrous mode. I think the rider weight and conditions can easily account for a few mph difference. 28 mph is easily doable downhill for example, but not on flat ground for me. Still a good little scooter.
Hey Buddy!
After seeing your review, we just bought one!! 👍
Thank you for this review - We really appreciate you & what you do 👌👌
Awesome, congrats on the new purchase, you're going to love it! 👽🖖
Thank you Buddy 👊😎👊
try the Rion re90 up this hill, it will feel like a normal street
You actually launch off the top of the hill and end up a few blocks away.
Alien Rides, the savior of the East Coast scooter riders. And we are getting some serious cabin fever out here omg lol. Have you done this with a Dualtron X, I know it would make it just wonder how fast.
Hah yeah, Dualtron X would rocket up this hill quickly, not sure at what speed though, I'll have to test it :) Why cabin fever? Bad weather out there now? :(
@@AlienRides Too dang cold to ride with the wind hitting you, even in the high 50s it feels cold, but the 30s would be brutal. Or maybe I'm a col weather wuss...I have started to considered that. lol
I was thiiiis close to getting a wide wheel pro, but ended up going for a e-twow GT because it's almost HALF the weight. I have to carry it up 4 floors of stairs for work making it also easier to carry in shops, too.
Nice, yeah it's hard to beat the e-twow for portability, it's super light. Not as good as a hill climber, but a really good option.
For what all these damn scooters cost, they should have absolutely no problem whatsoever climbinging hills.
I would have thought it would be more powerful going up those hills, with two 500W motors, too...I could do that with a 350 single
Yeah usually there is no problem but some scooters just go up hills better with out much speed loss
@@misterluckyS7even I think the weight of the rider matters.
Alien Rides this is why I am putting my money on an EUC. Aside from that, this was a cool videos.
EUCs are awesome vehicles for sure, and this year is a great year to get into them. I like to ride everything and will do videos on everything in the future.
I’m waiting to see a review on Dualtron new model eagle pro!!great review👽🛴💨💨💨
Thanks!! We'll do the Eagle Pro at some point, definitely want to review that one.
Hot damn, that has to be the steepest city hill I ever seen. Has a unicycle ever made it up the hill? If so, which one(s)? Oh yeah, that drone footage is fabulous.
It’s steep! You can make it to the top on an EUC, I’ve done it on both my Nikola and monster. I’m searching for a more steep hill now that we’ve conquered this one!
Alien Rides hill climb test: was that on eco or power mode ?
Peacefully Simple I should’ve clarified, it was on power mode.
@@AlienRides Come to my city Amman to see serious steepy hills.. Nice video by the way :)
Beside CA hill, very close to it is the sacramento hills.
Widewheel pro should come with semi pneumatic tires on 2021 so it can go off-road too.
They should upgrade the light and brakes to hydraulic or regen.
It’s almost at its max potential for its price.
Hopefully next year they will make some changes.
There’s so much you can do with a scooter, but every plus you add, create a negative. And every negative you add creates a positive.
Interesting thoughts! I'm not sure about adding negatives to make a positive, but I think many manufacturers have tried that!
That really took those gradients well, I'm surprised.
It does really well for such a small scooter. It's the cheapest scooter that made it up that hill.
Would like to take it on a fly-in fishing trip to Canada. Must fit in plane
Great video.I
travelled on that street.Too much of a wide wheel has more friction thus less speed specially uphill.Have you tried narrower wheels uphills?Also uses more battery power.
Thank you,see you again.
Have tried a bunch of different scooters up this hill, really just need powerful motors to make it up, about 800 watts each conquers the hill nicely.
Excellent review! Lots of things to like about this WideWheel Pro, was wondering how the suspension compared to the Speedway V? thanks
That’s a good question, I feel that the Speedway V suspension might be a bit more stiff, but overall might be more smooth thanks to the pneumatic tires.
Hello, it's possible to get a google maps link to the city climb you used for the test. Im curious about the real % of incline of that street. Thank you
i have been hoping someone will test the dualtron thunder up a hill like this at top speed. that hill is a good hill for scooter tests. i am getting the dualtron this spring.
The Dualtron Thunder is a beast and will rocket up steep hills. Maybe not at 50, but 25-35 mph depending on grade. I've got a Thunder and will try to do some hill climb videos in the future. You're going to love your scooter!
I order one of this Scooters last week , I'm only waiting for delivery .. Let's see what are they really made of
Awesome. it's a really great scooter, you're going to love it! 👽🖖
@@AlienRides ✔👍💖
How about down hill , do the wheels get damaged due to going to faster than the stock speed
Generally downhill doesn't put that much work on the motors so its totally fine to go much faster. 👽🖖
if people need more suspension go get some nike shocks or nike airmax
Bastian Remedy especially the 720s! I wore them by accident and they do a lot
We don’t wear running shoes in Hawaii, lol
Have you tried going up these hills with a emove cruiser or touring?
I haven't yet, but I just got the emove cruiser, so I'm expecting to do that test in the next few weeks!
I'm interested in seeing the e-move cruiser tackle these hills.
Yeah, it would be interesting to see if it can! Maybe I’ll reach out and ask for a cruiser review unit.
@@AlienRides i was just going to ask you about this one. Please review it.
Is it possible to disable a motor on the dual version?
So I'm actually not sure. There's different speed modes though and the throttle curve is controllable so you should be fine!
@@AlienRides Thanks for the answer! The fact is that in Italy electric scooter to be allowed to go in public streets must have a 500w motor so I fear I could have some issue with it, that's why I was asking.. Thanks anyway!
Very nice product test video.
Thanks for stopping by, love testing scooters. 👽🖖
How's that holding up to a weped?? I found a wide wheel in the dumpster. It was seriously dead Jim !
hey i just got a ninebot ES4. it’s not fast enough though for me at 18mph and a single motor just isn’t enough. i’m not trynna break the bank and go in the 3s yet. so anywhere from 1k-1.6k would be enough.
Yeah getting a scooter is dangerous because there's always a faster or bigger one to get 😅 I think the WideWheel pro could be a good option for you, great power for the price.
Great I been waiting on a test ride of this scooter I love the wide wheels
Yeah, I suppose wheel diameter to size of this scooter is pretty crazy! Nice little package for sure.
Would love to see this climb test on Speedway 5 or Leger.
I'll see if we can do that! The Speedway V would absolutely rip up the hill no problem because it's even more powerful than the WideWheel, but it would be a fun video to make.
wonder where i can buy accessories for widewheel pro - like handle bars for kids
It's a bit hard to customize e-scooters, especially the handlebars, but doable if you are handy. Best place to start might be bike accessories. You can attach most to the handlebars.
The earlier generations of this scooter got me into personal EVs. I was excited to buy one, but eventually got lured away from the idea by an EUC. I am happy with the decision I made, but I still think the Mercane Wide Wheel is a terrific looking scooter!
It's certainly a good looking scooter. Awesome that you got an EUC, they're great machines.
EUC?? Please Elaborate
@@coolshariq Electric UniCycle
Do EUC go up hills ok?
Hey, I know they are different, but which one would you recommend.
I ride a motorcycle around the Bay Area and San Francisco. However, sometimes I take the Shared scooters to get around the neighborhood in SF.
I work about 1,8 miles from work.
I’ve been thinking about the onewheel for the longest time, but then I saw the widewheel, I was impressed. Which one to get?
- I need to be able to fit it on my motorcycle
- I want to be able to get quickly around the neighborhood
- sometimes take it to work
- and when I travel I’d like to take it with as well
I’ve taken the lime scooter from the Marina District to Financial district without any issues fitting between traffic downtown. I wonder, could I do it on the onewheel as well?
Scooters are really awesome for sure, but I'm not sure about fitting it on your motorcycle. I do think that a onewheel could get you around most trips around town, but personally I'd actually recommend an electric unicycle. Probably the most power in a small package you can find. What do you think about the EUCs? Bit of a learning curve, but we can help.
U didn't mention how much you weight. It makes a HUGE difference.
Good point, I'm about 180 lbs.
I might get one next year still looking for the right one there are hill all around me. good vid
This one is a pretty solid choice for conquering hills! Definitely get a dual motor scooter whatever you choose.
thankyou foe the feed back that's good for me .
Thinking of getting a scooter and watched your cool video, distracted by the drone footage. What drone are you using??
I'm using the Skydio 2 for most of my videos these days. It's so much fun to shoot with it! The way it follows you, it's like magic.
@@AlienRides they are on backorder and won't be shipped till Oct 20...must be a prized possession??? wow!! I want both scooter and Skydio 2 now. thanks for the review, best one yet!!!
How did the folding handlebars feel when riding,returned the one I bought the wife due to 1 of the bars disengaging and dropping down.It is an awesome 2 wheeler though.Nice weather ✌️
That's unfortunate about the handlebars. Mine felt ok, but I only rode this scooter for a few days so far. I did notice that the handlebar locking mechanism didn't feel the most sturdy when you unfold them. I sort of looked at them and said, "that's it?". No issues with the short period of time I rode it for though.
Still dreaming and being antsy about the SSR 🤤.
@@AlienRides That's exactly what we thought as well.Hhhmmm not much to how these handlebars lock into position.Whatsapp 16043150682,let's chat SSR
seeing how you feel about it now and just wondering how tall and how much you weigh. I am a bigger guy at 6'3" 210 looking to purchase one. thanks!
I think it is a pretty good scooter, but it is a bit jerky. You are a bit heavier, so something like the apollo ghost or kaabo mantis might be a better choice for you. :alienRides:
Man this thing is great up hills
Yeah, the dual motor scooters crush hills 👽🖖
Awesome review. Curious how much do you weigh? and how much where you carrying in weight with your backpack etc?
Thanks! I weight about 185 or so, maybe another 10 lbs with the backpack.
Alien Rides ok thank you for the info appreciate it
I have been riding this this whole past week! I have a few questions for you:
1: does 2020 pro have a ludicrous mode?
2: how do you go on cruise mode?
3: the California street ride, was that on power mode?
There is a speed mode, the apollo guys did a good video of enabling it, I think they talk about cruise control also: ruclips.net/video/6SR_a9jwHWI/видео.html
For my test, the speed setting was maxed.
@@AlienRides you only got 24mph on ludicrous mode? or you didnt have ludicrous mode on?
JordanNOFX 24mph on ludicrous mode :)
Great review how does this compare with the turbowheel pacer?
Good questions, I haven't tried the pacer, but at a glance it seems that the WideWheel will have higher torque due to two motors and be able to climb hills better, while the pacer might have a bit of a higher top speed. The pacer would have air-fillted tires, making it more of a smooth ride compared to the WideWheel. Both seem like they could be great scooters.
Any idea how to convert to mph on the new model. Just got one and can't figure it out. Not in the manual ether?
I believe there's a menu if you hold the brake lever and turn in, but I don't rememer what option does what.
Sweet. I almost bought a one wheel but needed more info. Ty
OneWheela look really fun for off-roading and such. An EUC would also be a great option for long range and fast cruising.
Onewheel is amazing gadget. I regret it zero percent. I have both the XR and pint. But make no mistake, the XR is great for trails, and the pint is amazing for everyday use “locally”. They are not good commuters in my opinion.
I can’t imagine a life without my Onewheel but I wouldn’t like to use it as a commuter unless my work was under 4-5 miles
@@sidjtd....I meant Wide Wheel, but yes XR and Pint look amazing. I so want the WideWheel duel motor, retails for about a thousand. If anyone on here owns a duel or single WWheel let me know how you like or dislike. Ty
I went up that street on the 2019 model with no issues.
Nice. Hope it's treating you well, I just know there were a few issues with the brakes and stuff on that model.
You must be lighter weight than him?
Nice! Been waiting for this one.
Awesome, nice to see you again and thanks for stopping by!
@@AlienRides of course. Always great reviews. I have ridden the boosted rev, but have not ridden this scooter. How does the widewheel pro compare to the boosted rev speed/acceleration wise? Ride comfort wise? And range wise?
Which do you like better and why?
I think maybe splurging a bit more and going for a zero 8x or mantis base would give you better range/ performance than a wide wheel pro right?
Gregory Patzelt it feels like this scooter has about similar power to the boosted rev, I get about the same top speed on both, 24 mph or so. I think this scooter should do a bit better range wise too. At a lower price, I think the wide wheel wins over the rev.
@@AlienRides where it gets really hard is where to stop your budget as you can spend a bit more and get a zero 8x, mantis, dualtron raptor 2/ the new dualtron eagle, or even a speedway 5.
I had the same issue with electric skateboards and ended up buying 4 different level boards lol.
Gregory Patzelt yeah, there’s so much selection that it’s hard to decide when to stop... you can always spend just a few more bills for a faster/longer range ride. But if you can afford it, go big from day 1! 😬
Really great video!!!
Thanks as always! 😁
Does that mean it will go anywhere there are roads ?
Basically yeah, it's a solid scooter as long as you like solid tires. 👽🖖
Great video. Do you know what its like riding this thing in wet conditions ? I've heard its not really suited for wet conditions but I don't know if that means it's impossible or just requires extra care.
Yeah, good point. The airless tires does make it a bit more slippery on rain, but it is totally doable. Just need to be careful when turning and accelerating for the most part. It's generally a good idea to not ride scooters in downpour conditions, but a light drizzle should be fine.
@@AlienRides In that case I'll probably go with this scooter because a bit of extra care in wet conditions in return for never having to worry about flats seems like a fair trade off to me. Thanks so much for your reply.
@@jonmaze793 sold my ghost bot ww cle and never looked back.
Is this the 1000w or the 1600w ??? Confused I just got a 1600w scooter 3rd scooter in 2 months the struggle has been real
Awesome, I think this was the 1600, but not sure. The scooter addiction is real. 👽🖖
@@AlienRides it really is i need to calm down have my eye on another 2 but thet serious cash because of brand name , but what I want my design,
arhhhh I have weed a addiction , drink addiction, now a scooter addiction am much more happy with this new addiction of mine.
i will stop some day roughly this year or next .
the other 2 scoooters i have am happy with they have decent power and nice range , happy scooting bro stay safe................................
ps
i had to edit this just seen this now a year later when repy i was drunk my grammar was so ba for that would like to apologise for my actions am smart man respecful , the way i wrote made me look look really stupid and made me look like a real drunk or something i am not.
i manged to get me 2 , 2400w eclectic scooters . 45mph , 52v 18ah battery 35 miles range really happy i paid 2000.00 for both of them am really happy with the deal i got have 60-70 miles range in total on full charge using both now thats crazy good.
k safe am gone #UK
please get a infra red termometer do the same hillclimb an look what the batterie temp is
Yeah, that's an awesome idea. Would be great to be able to measure both the battery and motor temperature. I'll have to see how we can do this in the future!
How tall and heavy are you? Just considdering the speeds you had on those steep uphill parts. I`m considdering getting one for myself so just gotta ask before i decide
I'm right at 6' tall, and maybe was about 200 lbs for this video.
@@AlienRides Thanks for reply. Then it did rather well, and since I'm no smaller than that myself it's good to know it can handle it ^^
Just bought one!
Awesome, you're going to love it!
Good video. What is the weight limit?
Thanks! The specs say up to 120 KG/265 LBS.
Alien Rides - Cool. Thx.
You tested both this WideWheel Pro and E-Twow GT, so which is most comfortable riding on rough terrain / bumpy roads? Which have better suspension?
I think the WideWheel does a bit better, possibly just it’s a bit beefier. The E-Twow is certainly more portable though.
Hey can this handle a 205lbs guy thru Geary and Masonic. Looking for a electric scooter to commute. Thanks ride safe
Yeah, I think it definitely would. You can also rent it from us if you're interested in testing it out. pev.works
Which has more power between this and apollo explore?
That's a good question, I think it's this one by a bit, since it's got two motors. 👽🖖
Can you do a hill climb vid on the Mantis. Thats a scooter I really like. Im doing my best to save up what little money I have so that hopefully sometime in the next year or so I can purchase one.
Thanks for the request, I’ll try to find time to film that. I can assure you it conquers most hills with ease though!
Hey man, great review. How does it fare uphill in eco mode? And have you ridden it extensively in eco mode for a realistic mileage? I take the advertised max range with a huge grain of salt lol
Thanks for stopping by! You definitely get more range in eco mode compared to turbo, especially if you ride it slower. I haven't ridden this extensively in eco mode, as I max out all of my scooters. I typically just say to take the advertised range and cut it in half.
The advertised range is in "no-rider" situation. In other words, it is in "idle speed" situation with e-scooter sitting high on the bar stool without wheels touching the floor till the end of juice from battery.
Come to eagle rock in west orange New Jersey..thats the ultimate test
Always fun to know about cool places to ride. Hope to check it out some day! 👽🖖
“A better value and range over the boosted rev”👍
Did the rev ever made it up that hill?
I think it would perform about the same. Good point though, I should try it!
battery would die before he got to the top lol jk
How did you train your drone to follow you
I got the Skydio 2 which is a pretty awesome drone with autonomous tracking 😁
Awesome kev!, I finally decided to cancel my Order in China to get That scooter and now i have a dualtron 2 with a Lots of Upgrades 🤟🏿. Anyways WW pro is a excelent Choice for the Price
Awesome choice on the Dualtron 2, great scooter for sure and I hope you have a lot of fun on it! Ride safe!
Alien Rides thanks kev. ja, thats an very nice Machine. Next stop... Rion 😍. And yes i ride it with a shoei helmet and Fox gloves
perfect review ... hill climbtest should always be on scooter review
Thanks for stopping by, definitely going to be doing more hill climb tests in the future.
Alien Rides Does it have Single and dual Motor Switch? Or it always run on dual motor?
@@LuckySpoildy I believe this one is always dual motor, but it's totally manageable!
How much faster does the scooter go with those glasses on?
Zero additional speed, but infinite additional cool factor
@@AlienRides HAHAHAHA love it bro, keep up the good work ❤️
Any recommendations for the best scooter for riding to work possibly up pretty steep hills?
Depends on how long your commute is and how fast you want to go. This one is a pretty good option! For some more power and speed look into either the Eagle Pro or Kaabo Mantis.
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Is there a seat option?
Sweet review once again my friend!! \m/,
How much is this one btw??
Looks like it's about ~1.3k USD. Not cheap, but a pretty good price for a dual motor scooter IMO.
@@AlienRides right on thanks bro I appreciate your reply as always! Update** so my fixed position es4 is holding up great had it hacked to do 20mph and soldered the fuse that always blows and it's great accept it's slow and no rear suspension haaa. Need something way faster and suspension would be sweet! That hill you climbed on that wide wheel was impressive and the what 35 MPH all for 1100.00 sounds like my next scoot before I drive into a Rion...
If you ever come to Utah lmk we can hit some epic riding up in Park City Utah!! Would be awesome content for your channel!!
Question: I'm only gonna drive in eco-mode. Can I configure this scooter so that eco-mode becomes the default mode? Or do I have to toggle it to eco-mode each and every new session?
That's a good question and for some reason I thought it started in eco mode, but maybe not. I don't know off the top of my head but hopefully someone can chime in!
ruclips.net/video/6SR_a9jwHWI/видео.html
Can you please review the Widewheel pro 500w
Ah, so do they sell another option with a single motor? I probably won't have a chance to get my hands on it, but I can ask around. I imagine it's very similar, maybe just a bit less power?
@@AlienRides Yes it has the 10A battery not the 15A. The 500w with the 15A battery would be nice for range.
Nice video, you can turn on/ok kick start on his. Also you can unlock ludicrous mode. Look up Apollo Scooters video how to do video
I was the one suggesting this. Remember?
Thank you for the suggestion! :) I think the Pro has some nice improvements over the normal one for sure. Definitely a nice little scooter.
Me too 🙋🏻♂️
Hello, I also bought one. My scooter will emit low-frequency noise similar to helicopter propellers in the speed range of 26-29 km/h, which is at the highest speed in the eco mode. Does your scooter have this problem?
Hmm, sounds strange. My guess is that it might be the brake rotor? 👽🖖
@@AlienRides no.... The brake disc works without any problems, and his voice belongs to the middle and low frequency range. It is really annoying.😭
Thanks for the video! I would definitely take the Widewheel Pro over a Boosted Rev. Now that I have a few hundred miles on my base Mantis I am definitely happy I picked it up. I love being able to keep up with most San Francisco traffic on the Mantis. When I need the portability I go back to my Speedway Mini-IV or Ecoreco L5+. Now that I have grown accustomed to the Mantis on BART I have been using it as my daily commuter more often. Since I have the reverse commute on BART I don't need to fold my scooter up as much so the Mantis has been working out.
Perhaps there are some more extreme hills in Potrero. They may not be as long as California but I believe the grade is greater. I know one of my e-bikes had no problem with California but I think it was the top of Mississippi street that stalled it out.
Yeah the Mantis is awesome, and it's cool that you don't have a problem bringing it bart. Thanks for the tip on the hill, ideally a long and steep hill would be ideal. Or maybe I can test on a mountain like Mt Tam or something 🤔
@@AlienRides I did a lot of mountain biking back in the day on and around Tam. I don't recall super steep roads. They had to make sure people could traverse most roads under normal human power bicycles. The Potrero hill streets have some length to them and definitely have the steepness. Another thing you should show is the ability to safely go down those hills. I would never want to go down with anything that didn't have dual disc brakes :)
Pretty sure the dualtron is the king of scooters at everything
If you can pay the price l, then definitely. Except for speed though, that goes to Rion 😎
Great hill climb. Can I ask how much you weigh?
I'm about 180 lbs now, maybe ~190 when this was shot though?
Nice video, you can turn on/off kick start on this. Also you can unlock ludicrous mode and top speed. Look up Apollo Scooters how to do video
Yeah, I believe I had both of those set when making this video. It’s definitely a fun little scooter for sure!
Alien Rides got mine from Apollo (Canada) got the upgraded throttle too it came with key also. I too have the throttle lag problem, hope they’ll have some kind of control box upgrade. Also batteries are Chinese hope they last.
I live in Brooklyn NY, government recently legalized e scooters here. Helps so much with short commute and groceries)))
Thanks to your video i was able to make up my mind !
Thank you very much!!!
@@Star_Dust___ Awesome. I'm glad you got yourself a new scooter, and the legalization is really great news as well. Cheers and ride safe!
Anyone know where to get replacement rubbers?
Was the wide wheel in default factory mode or was the speed unlocked?
Had no idea there was a way to unlock more speed. I’ll have to look into that! I still hit about 24mph or so though.
@Alien Rides Check this out.....maybe try it out and possibly provide an update if you still have the scoot. :)
ruclips.net/video/6SR_a9jwHWI/видео.html
@@djfila looks like it was unlocked from the factory. Thanks for the link!
Just discovered your channel. Great videos! Really like your unbias reviews. Interested to know what you think of the Widewheel Pro 2020 vs Zero 9? Both seem to be around the same price.
Thanks for stopping by! I haven't tried the Zero 9 yet myself, but it actually looks cheaper. (Even more so with the "alienrides" discount on revrides.com.) It also only sports a single motor, so you aren't going to have as much power, but it is more lightweight. Overall it seems like it could be a solid commuter option.
But keep that in mind,this scooter doesn’t have regenerative braking which is an important basic feature for my buying decision making.
I honestly can't remember, maybe look into the vsett 9+ or 10+, great scooters with e-braking. 👽🖖
Hey did get the notification from you because my bell been busy 👍
Hah, awesome! Thanks for stopping by!
I live in San Francisco, where can I buy this?
Awesome, check the link in the description. We've actually got one you can try at our shop in SF if you want to come by. https;//pev.works
@@AlienRides what's the addy?
@@yung_stock8964 look up PEV Works on Google maps, you will find us!