I've quit jobs where managers were like this because I felt like a toddler! The way I'm so tempted to scream, "hands off my computer, I can feel your breath on my neck! Leave me alone!" 😭😭
@@Riley-1078 That's what my last job was like. Literally breathing down my neck. It was very gross and uncomfortable. If I took too long (less than a second) to think about my actions and what to do since I was new, she would GRAB THE HEADSET from me and scoot me over to the side.
My first boss was generally pretty nice to let me work. The issue with him was he was a brit who had worked in the middle east, uk, europe, Caribbean and finally canada. He was new to canada and didn't know the corporate culture as well or didn't want to adapt. He was used to having most of his work done by others below him to perfection. He couldn't say much to me because when i was hired, i was one of the few colored folks in the office and only colored person in the department. I would generally do a pretty good job but there were always minor issues that could be improved. Really small stuff that as the boss, he could easily fix. But my colored status hire allowed me to be tolerated and he couldn't do much. Plus he was a typical rich foreign boss who came to canada with good years of employment and had a massive estate home right outside the city and at least 3 cars. Plus he was irritated i stuck to my 8h of work only while he would constantly work 12h each day.
my coworker quit after a “progress phone call” from my manager/boss 😂 same day, 15 mins b4 work ends, he just steps out and call him saying he quit (giving the company a 3 day notice)
Yes! I’ve worked jobs with bad customers, but when the boss is on your side you laugh at the craziness instead of cry. I haven’t had a bad boss yet somehow, so grateful for that. Maybe it’s karmic justice for some of the downright demonic teachers I had as a kid!
ugh I miss my restaurant job every day. The customers/regulars were great, all my coworkers were fantastic and fun, sales were highest they’ve ever been, but the managers man. They ruined it and everybody left 😕
This! Everyone assumes I quit my last job (fast food) because of the customers or the work, but it was because the managers were horrible and disrespectful. I actually liked the job itself, but the managers would always find a way to ruin my shift before I even got halfway through.
Yeah i had 2 jobs where the bosses were like this. They would give me a deadline which looked reasonable but then a few days in, they would give me work that isnt urgent when given. But then halfway since the inital work was given, they would expect the work to be done and to review. And they then would be annoyed and try to purposely hold meeting in my off time when im usually done 2h earlier. It was a nightmare. Luckily these 2 jobs never appear on my resume. And im usually my other 2 employers were much better. They would give me a long deadline but the real deadline to client was usually a week or 2 after that. Plus if any new work was assigned my deadline would be adjusted accordingly. I miss working for both those organizations.
I have to be honest though, I feel like your solution could be considered "back talk" and "attitude" in a LOT of places by a LOT of bosses unfortunately.
Whats sad is that some companies expect their supervisors to do this. My last company fired me because I wouldn't micromanage people. I have a PhD in management yet they still fired me. 😂😂😂 So companies need to allow leaders to lead too. 😂
companies with healthy cultures and trust don't need you to micromanage, they trust you and your team to behave like adults and just get the damn work done. I would have left a place like that SO FAST
It is bc of the top management. They have to constantly improve and found an easy way of "improving" by detecting what they labelled as lack of management skills. It doesn't seem to me that u were on friendly terms with them, but rather the person to be only interested in honest work and the well being of the employees. In this case many bosses will not like u. U just have to go on the way u have, leave a job if necessary. It is paramount that one stays a good person and never be a bosses pleasers. Good for u, best wishes for your future!
What does you having a PHD in management mean exactly? Management is an experience based position, and you were fired because your managers didn’t feel like your piece of paper was worth enough to offset the lack of production you were responsible for. 🤷🏾♂️
@@TheDougSpotFor someone who doesn't now what OP's degree even covers, you sure made a lot of assumptions about their qualifications and the quality if their work.
I can imagine Boss saying something in response like, "I actually would prefer to check on things in real-time so that way you're not wasting YOUR time doing something that isn't what I'm looking for."
@@riverwing7497 shrug it off and either adapt or start looking for a new job. when it comes to unpleasant to work with bosses, there is only so much advice that can help you deal with them. you cannot teach a full grown adult to be nice and respectful if their parents haven't done it or if they haven't realised how ignorant they are on their own
I would respond with, "i would appreciate it if you could trust me to do this presentation myself. If you think i'm wasting my time doing the presentation, then i dont understand why you are having me do it."
A good way to deal with a micromanaging boss is to remember that they are generally easily distracted. They can't resist chasing after minute details. So flood them with loads more information than they could ever ask for.
@@connortobin3775yiur comment and this person’s comment came at the perfect timing today. Needed this. My strategy is always to try not to personalize their behavior and just focus on doing a good job… because I can sense a part of them does crave conflict, because they’re often creating conflict that isn’t there. I know I’m doing a good job. It’s exhausting to be micromanaged.
My response would probably be, I'm not going to be done in time if you're constantly checking on progress and if you don't like how I'm doing it you can do it yourself or let me work in my own way that is most productive for me.
"It seems like you have some concerns about the quality of my work. I totally understand wanting to deliver the best presentation possible to our client, but these check-ins are interrupting my focus on the project. What can we do to help you feel more confident about the quality of the final product while I'm still working on it?"
Man, I don't know if I'll ever be able to do corporate talk. It sounds so robotic. My managers might just have to deal with me telling them, "Thank you, it'll be alright, I'll run my final drift over by you, I'm feeling good about this project and I know the ins-and-outs on how to finish... Seriously, I'm fine. Thanks though." And that's why I'll probably never get a corporate job. Whoops lol.
Only thing I might add (might not be completely necessary?) is that interrupting your focus so often is greatly reducing your productivity. I.e. you can’t get anything done BECAUSE of their behavior
@@GoneFishingAway sorry my sarcasm didn't come off right. I was being sarcastic. I've had micro managers and I always use the words "adorable" or "cute" in these situations when I'm using sarcasm. Try having 5 bosses that all tell you they want different things on a project, so you have to redo the damn thing that took a week 5 times. Then you get yelled at for not being able to complete your projects on time because the managers won't get together and come to a consensus of how they want this to go. 15 years of this crap. It's literally like Office Space. Then I go into my car, scream and cry. Take vacation days or PTO, but your having to work anyways. I get paid for 40 hour weeks, I probably actually work about 80 hours a week, while only getting paid for 40.
This is my work life. If I told my boss that, no matter how helpful I make it sound for him, he'd say he wants to make sure I'm "using time correctly" and then he'd be condescending to me for the rest of the week. I'm currently job hunting. So grateful I've found your videos to help me with that!
I have no patience for this sort of thing, my response would have been "I would make much more progress without these constant interruptions. If you don't trust me to create this presentation, feel free to assign it to another employee." I'm older, and so sick of peoples crap 😅
I actually have the opposite problem, my manager is so laid back (a bit irresponsable even) that they rarely check on us. To the point I have had to ask them when I have to give them things and what should I be working on. The cool thing tho is that I get to do my own thing on the side easier, so is not that bad
@@Literallyarealhuman It doesnt make sense to you that ground level workers dont have all the information and thus don't know which tasks take priority over others? Are you really *that* dense? I have a similar problem at my workplace for different reasons...bosses are horrible about not telling us workin stiffs what takes priority until the last second so we'll have to guess and almost inevitably guess wrong. Bad management leaves workers rudderless and confused.
@@Literallyarealhuman Mainly because I don't know what's supposed to be done first and what's not a priority. On top of that, if I managed to get ahead on work, I don't know what to do next because my manager doesn't tell me until we're close to a deadline and I have to rush. It's mainly a communication issue
@@Bllue I know but I though you had to buy it it's not fully free now either so yeah. And I use my school email rn for Microsoft stuff. And not everyone has Microsoft some use linux or something else so yeah.
This is what I'm dealing with right now :( It's not good for my self esteem. I found out that my boss checks my work when I'm not in the office (I work part-time and she doesn't) and randomly takes the jobs she assigned for me. I have to fight to actually get to keep the things she assigned to me. I was promised more working hours (can't live on this), but she's not doing that in the agreed time, because she has a lot of trouble delegating. I find it really stressful and I did speak up, but I'm also scared to speak up bc I was fired from my last job for speaking up :(
Same! They weren't even my boss to begin with just someone who was assigned to the same project as me. I was new so at first I thought this is normal but then they started giving me criticism about stuff that I CLOSED! LONG AGO! After a while, they became my actual boss. I contacted the supervisor the same day (It was their vacation but I had no other choice, I was to start within 2 days from the announcement), and declared that I'll NOT be working with them anymore, especially when they got to be in charge of me. And I quote my very shallow explaination: They're not bad but sometimes there are people you can just never get along with and it WILL affect their and my productivity. Try to talk privately with someone in charge. Like giving the supervisor a warning that work will not go as smoothly unless. And also I recommend making the supervisor SWEAR to keep it between you both until actions will actually take place, should they take place. Good luck! Sorry if I rambled.
The BEST way to deal with micromanagement is to quickly figure out what's important to them and always be one step ahead. In this example I feel like the boss just wanted the colors/font to be correct before moving forward... so I would always make sure I'm doing that even if it seems pointless to me at the time. Usually the boss has reasons for why they want things done a certain way.
Agreed! The boss generally has a big picture view across the org, & may know stuff they can’t or don’t want to say. So they ask for stuff without sometimes saying why. Sometimes you gotta cut them a break. (Assuming they’re generally decent people.)
This is legit how my entire week just went with my new supervisor. Just so you’re aware, I did the very thing suggested in the video and she admonished me for not being flexible enough to her working style. As if micromanagement is a legitimate leadership style.
That in it of itself comes off as a personal problem from her behalf, "not being flexible enough to her working style". It sounds like shes making it about her, and not the needs or requirements of the task at hand or the job. If my supervisor said that to me, my response would simply be, " this isnt personal. The style needs to be whatever may be that produces the best results from your employees or delivers the best outcome for the task in question.
"Yes, I could change the font now, but staring at calibri text is like stabbing pins into my eyeballs. I don't really want to do that for 8 hours every day." _literally said this to a boss in the past._
@leafm5375 It's those sharp serifs on all the TNR letters. Like caltrops for your eyeballs. I like Times New Roman, and serif fonts generally, but I can sympathize with your suffering.
Yes, this is bad management _however_ I myself have had to do exactly this (unfortunately) when one of my reports was consistently saying it was taking him several days to do a task that should have taken no more than an hour. Some employees waste time and let's not further management is still held accountable for that persons contributions.
I don’t miss being micromanaged. I work from home now and sometimes I’ll go daaaays without talking to my bosses. Then when I do talk to them it’s just because they don’t want me to feel left out lol
Problem with this approach is, if you answer to multiple layers of management you will soon find yourself in three meetings a day. For a project based task, I would suggest you set up three meetings. 1. Initial assignment, where the majority of targets and parameters are set 2. Midway, last call for major edits/reworks. Followed up with an outline of what was discussed and agreed to ('We are changing Red to Blue, as directed.') 3. Finishing touches, last call for minor modifications
The one thing I hate about Micro-Management is where it stems from; distrust. If you trust the people you hire to do the job that they have expertise in, then you don’t track every single step looking for tiny mistakes to validate your anxious behaviour
my first boss was like this and I was only one she was managing so I couldn't even talk about this with my colleagues because everybody else loved her 😭
i work in graphic design and i would actually cry if my manager/boss was doing this every hour, i’d get SO frustrated. im an intern now so she checks on me and emails me throughout the day, but shes never just over my shoulder micromanaging me. she gives me projects and constructively criticizes what needs working on and thats that.
This would cause me to have a meeting with the boss'es boss. Unless they were also a micromanager, then I'd schedule a meeting with my next job manager. LOL
I had a supervisor early in my career who would sit with me and talk me through every mouse stroke when I was doing building design modelling. Got to the point once where he actually went, "gimme that...": and took the mouse out of my hand to do it.
I used to watch shorts like these and wonder how common these types of experiences were for folks, as they felt unrelatable to me at the time. Now, in a role I genuinely enjoy, my supervisor, who is a micromanager, has made all these scenarios incredibly relatable to me...😪
I literally had one that made me turn my desk to face him so that he could watch my screen at all times 😒 even though I've explained that I'm not comfortable doing that and it would cause unnecessary stress and burnout, to which he replied "stress is good, it makes you more productive" lmao. Anyway, I obliged, but I kept my earphones in the entire time and never communicated my progress with him, since he can already literally watch it the whole time. He quit shortly after.
We literally have someone at work who is just like her character…after being confronted about their over the shoulder micro managing they admitted to being one …ready for this because they had too….because he claims he inherited bad teams to manage. Now we have to take classes of his choosing so we understand how to be Time to go
She touched on one example of how to do this, but generally speaking when people are being overbearing it helps to be the one to suggest their involvement before they have a chance to. In this case, as she walked up it would be a good idea to say "It's great to see you! Would it be best to send you a report on my progress by email or over [company program?" If you take initiative and offer to share information before they have to ask, then give specific options (preferably only 2 or 3 options), they'll have much less of a chance to "take over" and you will be in more control of what you share and when.
The other question I have is how to be professional when coworkers/bosses I overhear talking about me. I don’t know what to say. Especially when they act in friendly in front of me,. I went back to my desk to get a drink and heard them laughing and talking about me. Please tell me what to do.
Oh god bless you for sharing these tips I had my boss check on me all the time making me feel underconfident on my work at one point by pointing out all the things she thought should be on a ppt and what all mistakes I do and talk abt it in team meetings it mentally depressed me
I'm gonna watch your videos on my company's email because I know the algorithm can't stop themselves from oversharing what you watch to your coworkers and boss 😂
The only time where it is appropriate for a manager to be a "micromanager" is if an employee has a history of missing deadlines and that manager has told the employee that they're going to be popping in more often to ask for updates to make sure things are on track.
I quit my last job over a font issue exactly like this. There was lots wrong, loads of scope creep on my vague job description, but font micromanaging was the last straw.
Guilty as charged, I sometimes find myself as supervisor doing that as I rarely trust anyone doing work throughly. I trying to reduce to minimum, As its retail all hired students dont give a damn about quality of work, and I end up micro managing at the end... I really hope I will not take this horrible habit to people who dont deserve this kind of pressure. 😢 and if I ever do that to anyone who works well, please tell me that Im giving unnecessary pressure.
I quit my last job due to my boss being a micromanager. It got to the point that my job was focusing more on all the anal tasks she wanted us to do rather than the actual job.
Ughhhh this is my life right now. My assistant manager is micromanaging everything, and I can’t count the times we’ve taken my projects to our manager and she says “yeah… I like the work you’ve done but it feels like you’ve focused a lot on the look and details of the design rather than the content” or “I’m not sure why you went this way, THIS is the information I’d really like you to capture” and then my assistant manager scrambles to backtrack and micromanage the new pieces of info 😅 soooo frustrating
I had a boss like that, and the senior literally breathing down my neck while I was reading directions from them on my screen. Constantly someone behind my back, on the open floor, which was extremely stressfull.
My boss made me send two calendar invites and put a sign on my office door when I was taking a day off. I put "PTO, my name" on calendar invites and she made me switch it to "my name, PTO." 🙃
oh my goodness this gives off the EXACT vibes of the yearbook teacher i was working with. i feel like we've had the same conversation as the one going on here, like nothing i was doing was right. (this would have probably not fazed me at all if i hadn't been working in a much more breathable and organized environment with my past yearbook teacher for 2 years before working with my new, disorganized one 😭😭) to make things worse, she went hot and cold with how she would check in on me and the other members, not caring about us receiving the resources we need to finish spreads depending on her mood of the day
Your channel is really useful. I was thinking about some kind of negotiations with boss, especially about salary, and your videos seems to be really helping.
I quit my last job because of a micromanager who wanted to play it off like she wasnt so she would just ask for a fetailed play by play of what you did. It was ridiculous
I feel a reasonable response for the 2nd interaction regarding Font. Would be 'I want all the content done first then do design [as she said] added with "Also, we get a better picture of how the font will truly look when comepleted w/ all the proper info as well' or something liek that. lol
Boses are human too. So much courage is needed to be outspoken, be convincing to higher ups. It's so much pressure to be there for the team, even in your vacation . Can you imagine the pressure of ownership of the project.
I’m leaving my current job because of this. Even worse they will just take over the job themselves, leaving you standing there wondering why you’re even being paid in the first place.
Wow, how do you already know so much about being a good professional? I've just graduated from college, looking for my first job and every video of yours I see I learn something completely new that I feel like I would've been in trouble if I hadn't known.. Please keep making these! 🙏🏼
Last time i had a manger like this i went to their manager and outlined how the micromanaging was destroying morale, slowing everyone down and just creating a toxic enviroment where no one wants to work with or for said manager.
I've quit jobs where managers were like this because I felt like a toddler! The way I'm so tempted to scream, "hands off my computer, I can feel your breath on my neck! Leave me alone!" 😭😭
Oh ew if they're that close im pushing them away gently but assertively. That is gross and it would make me uncomfortable. PERSONAL SPACE!!
@@Riley-1078 That's what my last job was like. Literally breathing down my neck. It was very gross and uncomfortable. If I took too long (less than a second) to think about my actions and what to do since I was new, she would GRAB THE HEADSET from me and scoot me over to the side.
My first boss was generally pretty nice to let me work. The issue with him was he was a brit who had worked in the middle east, uk, europe, Caribbean and finally canada. He was new to canada and didn't know the corporate culture as well or didn't want to adapt. He was used to having most of his work done by others below him to perfection. He couldn't say much to me because when i was hired, i was one of the few colored folks in the office and only colored person in the department. I would generally do a pretty good job but there were always minor issues that could be improved. Really small stuff that as the boss, he could easily fix. But my colored status hire allowed me to be tolerated and he couldn't do much. Plus he was a typical rich foreign boss who came to canada with good years of employment and had a massive estate home right outside the city and at least 3 cars. Plus he was irritated i stuck to my 8h of work only while he would constantly work 12h each day.
No frrr the moment they treat me like a child im so out.
my coworker quit after a “progress phone call” from my manager/boss 😂 same day, 15 mins b4 work ends, he just steps out and call him saying he quit (giving the company a 3 day notice)
“I’ve made progress since you were here at 9 AM…😭✋”
How are there no replies???
@@x360gg Just checking in about those replies. Three months is a long time to not have any replies here @Preppy731.
@@x360ggits perfect as is
Man shut up @@x360gg
@@x360ggwhats there to reply to lol
Bad managers can ruin a workplace faster than bad customers or bad coworkers
Yes! I’ve worked jobs with bad customers, but when the boss is on your side you laugh at the craziness instead of cry. I haven’t had a bad boss yet somehow, so grateful for that. Maybe it’s karmic justice for some of the downright demonic teachers I had as a kid!
ugh I miss my restaurant job every day. The customers/regulars were great, all my coworkers were fantastic and fun, sales were highest they’ve ever been, but the managers man. They ruined it and everybody left 😕
This! Everyone assumes I quit my last job (fast food) because of the customers or the work, but it was because the managers were horrible and disrespectful. I actually liked the job itself, but the managers would always find a way to ruin my shift before I even got halfway through.
Literally my old boss, he was either so on top of me or ignored me completely 🙄the most childish person I’ve ever met
I'm literally living this now and seeing your comment makes me feel so seen rn
@@kawaiichickennuggetpls tell them to hire me i need a job 😂😂
Yeah i had 2 jobs where the bosses were like this. They would give me a deadline which looked reasonable but then a few days in, they would give me work that isnt urgent when given. But then halfway since the inital work was given, they would expect the work to be done and to review. And they then would be annoyed and try to purposely hold meeting in my off time when im usually done 2h earlier. It was a nightmare. Luckily these 2 jobs never appear on my resume. And im usually my other 2 employers were much better. They would give me a long deadline but the real deadline to client was usually a week or 2 after that. Plus if any new work was assigned my deadline would be adjusted accordingly. I miss working for both those organizations.
Same as my ex boss
Had that same exact experience. It created so much fucking anxiety.
I have to be honest though, I feel like your solution could be considered "back talk" and "attitude" in a LOT of places by a LOT of bosses unfortunately.
Agreed! Some bosses are just extremely toxic.
Yeah I couldn't see me telling my boss "that doesn't seem like a good use of your time".
@@dakotacampbell1358 I agree. Maybe switching it out for "I know your time is valuable" would work?
Yeah I guess it depends on the power dynamics and your/their personality. That said, you ARE allowed to stand up for yourself.
@@LeslieStinsonyeah well that can get you fired in a lot of work places 💀 unfortunate but true
Whats sad is that some companies expect their supervisors to do this. My last company fired me because I wouldn't micromanage people. I have a PhD in management yet they still fired me. 😂😂😂 So companies need to allow leaders to lead too. 😂
They're somehow micromanaging the managers?
companies with healthy cultures and trust don't need you to micromanage, they trust you and your team to behave like adults and just get the damn work done. I would have left a place like that SO FAST
It is bc of the top management. They have to constantly improve and found an easy way of "improving" by detecting what they labelled as lack of management skills. It doesn't seem to me that u were on friendly terms with them, but rather the person to be only interested in honest work and the well being of the employees. In this case many bosses will not like u. U just have to go on the way u have, leave a job if necessary. It is paramount that one stays a good person and never be a bosses pleasers. Good for u, best wishes for your future!
What does you having a PHD in management mean exactly?
Management is an experience based position, and you were fired because your managers didn’t feel like your piece of paper was worth enough to offset the lack of production you were responsible for. 🤷🏾♂️
@@TheDougSpotFor someone who doesn't now what OP's degree even covers, you sure made a lot of assumptions about their qualifications and the quality if their work.
“Can I look to check something?”
“Can I finish this presentation so I can do my job?”
I can imagine Boss saying something in response like, "I actually would prefer to check on things in real-time so that way you're not wasting YOUR time doing something that isn't what I'm looking for."
Facts. My freaking boss. She's unreal.
What are your thoughts on the boss's response if they said this?
@@riverwing7497 shrug it off and either adapt or start looking for a new job. when it comes to unpleasant to work with bosses, there is only so much advice that can help you deal with them. you cannot teach a full grown adult to be nice and respectful if their parents haven't done it or if they haven't realised how ignorant they are on their own
That’s what happened to me when I tried this
I would respond with, "i would appreciate it if you could trust me to do this presentation myself. If you think i'm wasting my time doing the presentation, then i dont understand why you are having me do it."
A good way to deal with a micromanaging boss is to remember that they are generally easily distracted. They can't resist chasing after minute details. So flood them with loads more information than they could ever ask for.
My family has a saying about that. You can wrestle with a pig in the mud all day long, but the problem is the pig likes it.
@@connortobin3775yiur comment and this person’s comment came at the perfect timing today. Needed this. My strategy is always to try not to personalize their behavior and just focus on doing a good job… because I can sense a part of them does crave conflict, because they’re often creating conflict that isn’t there.
I know I’m doing a good job. It’s exhausting to be micromanaged.
The discussion would be never ending.
So true! 😂
That doesn't work. Micromanagers LOVE insignificant details and will bother you with asking for more.
i would get fired from a corporate job so fast oh lord
😂the buffoonery is at an all the high in the corporate world
no fr. in my case, my neurodivergent ass would not survive.
Sounds like a you problem
@@josiahbaumgartner7643 why did you feel the need 💀
I would rather labor all day in the sun than ever work in corporate. Physical exhaustion over mental exhaustion any day
This low key gave me secondhand anger 😂
The best way to handle a situation like this is to get a new job.
Agreed.
A lot of places are like this though unfortunately
My response would probably be, I'm not going to be done in time if you're constantly checking on progress and if you don't like how I'm doing it you can do it yourself or let me work in my own way that is most productive for me.
I normally politely say "i want to hit x milestone before i leave for the day". And my tone says a lot when im called the 3rd time.
So how's the unemployment line working for you? 😊
"It seems like you have some concerns about the quality of my work. I totally understand wanting to deliver the best presentation possible to our client, but these check-ins are interrupting my focus on the project. What can we do to help you feel more confident about the quality of the final product while I'm still working on it?"
Man, I don't know if I'll ever be able to do corporate talk. It sounds so robotic. My managers might just have to deal with me telling them, "Thank you, it'll be alright, I'll run my final drift over by you, I'm feeling good about this project and I know the ins-and-outs on how to finish... Seriously, I'm fine. Thanks though."
And that's why I'll probably never get a corporate job. Whoops lol.
That's gold!
much better
Only thing I might add (might not be completely necessary?) is that interrupting your focus so often is greatly reducing your productivity. I.e. you can’t get anything done BECAUSE of their behavior
Epidemic levels of micromanagement right now
No. This is still adorable. Sad to say.😢
@@deidrecrane No, it is not adorable. Unless you experience someone micromanaging you, you won't ever think it's adorable.
@@GoneFishingAway sorry my sarcasm didn't come off right. I was being sarcastic. I've had micro managers and I always use the words "adorable" or "cute" in these situations when I'm using sarcasm. Try having 5 bosses that all tell you they want different things on a project, so you have to redo the damn thing that took a week 5 times. Then you get yelled at for not being able to complete your projects on time because the managers won't get together and come to a consensus of how they want this to go. 15 years of this crap. It's literally like Office Space. Then I go into my car, scream and cry. Take vacation days or PTO, but your having to work anyways. I get paid for 40 hour weeks, I probably actually work about 80 hours a week, while only getting paid for 40.
the way my heart rate immediately went up at the font comment 😂 God that gives me flashbacks
This is my work life. If I told my boss that, no matter how helpful I make it sound for him, he'd say he wants to make sure I'm "using time correctly" and then he'd be condescending to me for the rest of the week. I'm currently job hunting. So grateful I've found your videos to help me with that!
I literally felt like this last week and didn’t know how to approach it
My experience is that managers and management styles make or break a job experience.
I have no patience for this sort of thing, my response would have been "I would make much more progress without these constant interruptions. If you don't trust me to create this presentation, feel free to assign it to another employee."
I'm older, and so sick of peoples crap 😅
On the third approach, I would have been fired for thumping that manager right on the forehead.
"If you interrupt me again, I'm going to "startle" and accidently delete every database on the production server.
And they will always convince themselves that they’re right/ that it’s in the best interest of the product
Totally
I actually have the opposite problem, my manager is so laid back (a bit irresponsable even) that they rarely check on us. To the point I have had to ask them when I have to give them things and what should I be working on.
The cool thing tho is that I get to do my own thing on the side easier, so is not that bad
I greatly prefer that. Give me my assignment and fuck off for a while. That's what works for me.
Why don’t you know what to work on? That doesn’t make sense
@@Literallyarealhuman It doesnt make sense to you that ground level workers dont have all the information and thus don't know which tasks take priority over others? Are you really *that* dense? I have a similar problem at my workplace for different reasons...bosses are horrible about not telling us workin stiffs what takes priority until the last second so we'll have to guess and almost inevitably guess wrong. Bad management leaves workers rudderless and confused.
@@Literallyarealhuman Mainly because I don't know what's supposed to be done first and what's not a priority. On top of that, if I managed to get ahead on work, I don't know what to do next because my manager doesn't tell me until we're close to a deadline and I have to rush. It's mainly a communication issue
That's the worst!
Now, my current job is having a manager like this. That's why I want to quit and find another better job 😅
Yes the solution here
In this economy, I strongly recommend you find a better job and *then* quit....ijs
Leave. As fast as you can or your mental health will suffer.
I give them a link to the google sheet and tell them they can check any time from their computer (commentor mode)
Not every company use Google Doc.
I guess I think you are lucky that's the case since it's easier to share than a word doc.
@@christinewhoyt even if you use msft office that comes with an online version you can turn around for collaborating.
@@Bllue I know but I though you had to buy it it's not fully free now either so yeah. And I use my school email rn for Microsoft stuff. And not everyone has Microsoft some use linux or something else so yeah.
This is what I'm dealing with right now :( It's not good for my self esteem. I found out that my boss checks my work when I'm not in the office (I work part-time and she doesn't) and randomly takes the jobs she assigned for me. I have to fight to actually get to keep the things she assigned to me. I was promised more working hours (can't live on this), but she's not doing that in the agreed time, because she has a lot of trouble delegating. I find it really stressful and I did speak up, but I'm also scared to speak up bc I was fired from my last job for speaking up :(
Same! They weren't even my boss to begin with just someone who was assigned to the same project as me. I was new so at first I thought this is normal but then they started giving me criticism about stuff that I CLOSED! LONG AGO! After a while, they became my actual boss. I contacted the supervisor the same day (It was their vacation but I had no other choice, I was to start within 2 days from the announcement), and declared that I'll NOT be working with them anymore, especially when they got to be in charge of me. And I quote my very shallow explaination: They're not bad but sometimes there are people you can just never get along with and it WILL affect their and my productivity.
Try to talk privately with someone in charge. Like giving the supervisor a warning that work will not go as smoothly unless.
And also I recommend making the supervisor SWEAR to keep it between you both until actions will actually take place, should they take place.
Good luck! Sorry if I rambled.
The BEST way to deal with micromanagement is to quickly figure out what's important to them and always be one step ahead. In this example I feel like the boss just wanted the colors/font to be correct before moving forward... so I would always make sure I'm doing that even if it seems pointless to me at the time. Usually the boss has reasons for why they want things done a certain way.
Agreed! The boss generally has a big picture view across the org, & may know stuff they can’t or don’t want to say. So they ask for stuff without sometimes saying why. Sometimes you gotta cut them a break. (Assuming they’re generally decent people.)
This is legit how my entire week just went with my new supervisor. Just so you’re aware, I did the very thing suggested in the video and she admonished me for not being flexible enough to her working style. As if micromanagement is a legitimate leadership style.
That in it of itself comes off as a personal problem from her behalf, "not being flexible enough to her working style". It sounds like shes making it about her, and not the needs or requirements of the task at hand or the job.
If my supervisor said that to me, my response would simply be, " this isnt personal. The style needs to be whatever may be that produces the best results from your employees or delivers the best outcome for the task in question.
I usually just tell them “fuck off” but you do you
same
"Yes, I could change the font now, but staring at calibri text is like stabbing pins into my eyeballs. I don't really want to do that for 8 hours every day."
_literally said this to a boss in the past._
In a workplace that exclusively used TNR for everything, I feel this so hard.
@leafm5375
It's those sharp serifs on all the TNR letters. Like caltrops for your eyeballs.
I like Times New Roman, and serif fonts generally, but I can sympathize with your suffering.
My boss and I have a 30 min cameras off zoom each month, other than that we don't bother eachother.
Yes, this is bad management _however_ I myself have had to do exactly this (unfortunately) when one of my reports was consistently saying it was taking him several days to do a task that should have taken no more than an hour. Some employees waste time and let's not further management is still held accountable for that persons contributions.
I don’t miss being micromanaged. I work from home now and sometimes I’ll go daaaays without talking to my bosses. Then when I do talk to them it’s just because they don’t want me to feel left out lol
Problem with this approach is, if you answer to multiple layers of management you will soon find yourself in three meetings a day.
For a project based task, I would suggest you set up three meetings. 1. Initial assignment, where the majority of targets and parameters are set 2. Midway, last call for major edits/reworks. Followed up with an outline of what was discussed and agreed to ('We are changing Red to Blue, as directed.') 3. Finishing touches, last call for minor modifications
The one thing I hate about Micro-Management is where it stems from; distrust.
If you trust the people you hire to do the job that they have expertise in, then you don’t track every single step looking for tiny mistakes to validate your anxious behaviour
my first boss was like this and I was only one she was managing so I couldn't even talk about this with my colleagues because everybody else loved her 😭
i work in graphic design and i would actually cry if my manager/boss was doing this every hour, i’d get SO frustrated. im an intern now so she checks on me and emails me throughout the day, but shes never just over my shoulder micromanaging me. she gives me projects and constructively criticizes what needs working on and thats that.
"yea how's the presentation goi-"
*Font, good. Friday, done. Continuing*
This would cause me to have a meeting with the boss'es boss. Unless they were also a micromanager, then I'd schedule a meeting with my next job manager. LOL
it's like you are training your manager lol
Or when every single interaction is a “lEaRnInG oPpOrTuNiTy” 🙄 aka micromanaging bosses constantly telling you things you knowwwww
So true 👍
I had a supervisor early in my career who would sit with me and talk me through every mouse stroke when I was doing building design modelling. Got to the point once where he actually went, "gimme that...": and took the mouse out of my hand to do it.
Girl is teaching us how to gentle-parent our bosses
I used to watch shorts like these and wonder how common these types of experiences were for folks, as they felt unrelatable to me at the time. Now, in a role I genuinely enjoy, my supervisor, who is a micromanager, has made all these scenarios incredibly relatable to me...😪
I literally had one that made me turn my desk to face him so that he could watch my screen at all times 😒 even though I've explained that I'm not comfortable doing that and it would cause unnecessary stress and burnout, to which he replied "stress is good, it makes you more productive" lmao. Anyway, I obliged, but I kept my earphones in the entire time and never communicated my progress with him, since he can already literally watch it the whole time. He quit shortly after.
“Can I see what you have done so far?”
“No, I’ll chat to you on Friday”
We literally have someone at work who is just like her character…after being confronted about their over the shoulder micro managing they admitted to being one …ready for this because they had too….because he claims he inherited bad teams to manage. Now we have to take classes of his choosing so we understand how to be Time to go
She touched on one example of how to do this, but generally speaking when people are being overbearing it helps to be the one to suggest their involvement before they have a chance to. In this case, as she walked up it would be a good idea to say "It's great to see you! Would it be best to send you a report on my progress by email or over [company program?"
If you take initiative and offer to share information before they have to ask, then give specific options (preferably only 2 or 3 options), they'll have much less of a chance to "take over" and you will be in more control of what you share and when.
“That doesn’t seem like a good use of your time.” 💀 If I ever said that to my manager/supervisor I would be fired. 😂
Telling your boss that them checking on you is an improper use of their time is a great way to get written up or fired.
The other question I have is how to be professional when coworkers/bosses I overhear talking about me. I don’t know what to say. Especially when they act in friendly in front of me,. I went back to my desk to get a drink and heard them laughing and talking about me. Please tell me what to do.
Assertiveness princess! Love ya!
Or just "yep, still working, go away" 😅😂
Oh god bless you for sharing these tips
I had my boss check on me all the time making me feel underconfident on my work at one point by pointing out all the things she thought should be on a ppt and what all mistakes I do and talk abt it in team meetings it mentally depressed me
The way I'm set up....I regularly go, "you do it, then."
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And this is why I can no longer work for other people.
Exactly. Never again.
"Boss, do you wana do it yourself?" 😊
I'm gonna watch your videos on my company's email because I know the algorithm can't stop themselves from oversharing what you watch to your coworkers and boss 😂
Makes me appreciate my boss a little more.
I just ask my boss, "Do you want to do this presentation?"
Third time, "thanks to your constant interruptions i am now on track to be finished by next tuesday"
Meanwhile my boss: "well, nice for you to look out for me, but *I* decide how I'm spending my time. And I demand to see it now."
The only time where it is appropriate for a manager to be a "micromanager" is if an employee has a history of missing deadlines and that manager has told the employee that they're going to be popping in more often to ask for updates to make sure things are on track.
It’s like the manager can’t keep pace.
I’ve been considering getting my first job and your videos are a big help for when I finally choose
Yea its so fun when the employee has to also be the manager
I quit my last job over a font issue exactly like this. There was lots wrong, loads of scope creep on my vague job description, but font micromanaging was the last straw.
I like this approach. In my 20's, I've had bosses like this and never knew how to respond to the micromanagement style.
Guilty as charged, I sometimes find myself as supervisor doing that as I rarely trust anyone doing work throughly. I trying to reduce to minimum, As its retail all hired students dont give a damn about quality of work, and I end up micro managing at the end... I really hope I will not take this horrible habit to people who dont deserve this kind of pressure. 😢 and if I ever do that to anyone who works well, please tell me that Im giving unnecessary pressure.
Love this!!
I quit my last job due to my boss being a micromanager. It got to the point that my job was focusing more on all the anal tasks she wanted us to do rather than the actual job.
Ughhhh this is my life right now. My assistant manager is micromanaging everything, and I can’t count the times we’ve taken my projects to our manager and she says “yeah… I like the work you’ve done but it feels like you’ve focused a lot on the look and details of the design rather than the content” or “I’m not sure why you went this way, THIS is the information I’d really like you to capture” and then my assistant manager scrambles to backtrack and micromanage the new pieces of info 😅 soooo frustrating
This is when you fake an emergency and finish from home.
Loooove your videos!!! ♥️♥️♥️ I always stop and listen because the content is so good!!! Keep it up!
Yup. Fonts and colors. The most important parts! Not the actual presentation. It was nice to quit a job like with a micromanager like this.
I had a boss like that, and the senior literally breathing down my neck while I was reading directions from them on my screen. Constantly someone behind my back, on the open floor, which was extremely stressfull.
My boss made me send two calendar invites and put a sign on my office door when I was taking a day off. I put "PTO, my name" on calendar invites and she made me switch it to "my name, PTO." 🙃
nah because im saying "if youre so worried about it maybe you should do it, you seem to care far more than i actually do. good luck" and walking away
oh my goodness this gives off the EXACT vibes of the yearbook teacher i was working with. i feel like we've had the same conversation as the one going on here, like nothing i was doing was right. (this would have probably not fazed me at all if i hadn't been working in a much more breathable and organized environment with my past yearbook teacher for 2 years before working with my new, disorganized one 😭😭) to make things worse, she went hot and cold with how she would check in on me and the other members, not caring about us receiving the resources we need to finish spreads depending on her mood of the day
Your channel is really useful. I was thinking about some kind of negotiations with boss, especially about salary, and your videos seems to be really helping.
The boss doesn't want to check in on your work, he just likes u and wants to see you more often 😊
I quit my last job because of a micromanager who wanted to play it off like she wasnt so she would just ask for a fetailed play by play of what you did. It was ridiculous
I feel a reasonable response for the 2nd interaction regarding Font. Would be 'I want all the content done first then do design [as she said] added with "Also, we get a better picture of how the font will truly look when comepleted w/ all the proper info as well' or something liek that. lol
This was my boss three weeks ago. He is no longer my boss; I quit. Thank you for talking about this Erin!
Weird how we have utterly normalised incompetent managers
Boses are human too. So much courage is needed to be outspoken, be convincing to higher ups. It's so much pressure to be there for the team, even in your vacation . Can you imagine the pressure of ownership of the project.
I would have said " If your so interested and focused on my power point presentation then why don't you do it" 😂
I’m leaving my current job because of this. Even worse they will just take over the job themselves, leaving you standing there wondering why you’re even being paid in the first place.
Wow, how do you already know so much about being a good professional? I've just graduated from college, looking for my first job and every video of yours I see I learn something completely new that I feel like I would've been in trouble if I hadn't known.. Please keep making these! 🙏🏼
Last time i had a manger like this i went to their manager and outlined how the micromanaging was destroying morale, slowing everyone down and just creating a toxic enviroment where no one wants to work with or for said manager.
This is a scene from when I first started my previous job. Down to the time stamps and responses 😂😂
“I won’t get done on time if you keep interrupting my work”
My perfect job: give me a list of things to do, then get out of my way and let me do them.
“Who are you to tell me how to utilize my time, you are reporting me” that’s what she will hear back
OMG i had both my boss and manager behaving like so
This is a person who has never prepared a presentation from start to finish.
You needs to put a disclaimer on the video. It triggered me from my past boss 😂
If the manager is hot i don't mind this at all 😂
The way I would've just said "Don't you have anything better to do?" 😭😭 I can't-