Thank you for this podcast! The Gospel is true! There is a prophet in the land. He speaks to us on behalf of Jesus Christ, whose church this is! The deceiver is seeking those who would be lead away. We will not be moved, or shaken! We love you.. do not be discouraged! ❤
I love your insight that is so on point and clear. I’m 70 years old and a member since I was 18. I served a good and noble mission. I married in the temple and have sought to hold to the rod my entire life….Many times dealing with the headwinds of challenge. Many times stumbling and injuring myself along the way. We all have those injuries of living life. Oft times the deceptions of the world impact members of my family I love so much. Most important is that we hold tight to the rod. Lovingly press forward and patiently serve and invite everyone we love to stay close enough that they will feel desirous to be close enough to hear our voice as we traverse the darkness. If they can but hear our voice, I believe we will be able to help our loved ones navigate the darkness if they know we love them and will not want not to wander too far away from the sound of our voices… and slowly and surely the covenants we made that strengthen us to hold to the rod will help deliver those we love through the darkness to the Tree of Life.. I love your beautiful Spirit; the noble work you are doing to encourage the Saints of our Living God to press forward with every footstep. Today the challenges are as intensely spiritual as were the physical challenges to our Pioneer ancestors who walked that trail to Zion. We too will be able to sing….”All is well, all is well…
Thank you! As David Alexander calls it, the accusatory fog has been put over the most glorious thing on earth by other Christians as well as former members. It is crucial to have discernment and hold tight to the rod. We need to boldly proclaim the truth as you are doing.
This is a PERFECT talk explaining that thinking we as members can't be deceived IS a deceit! It is all through the scriptures. Especially Isaiah. Thanks for sharing this awesome talk, Elder Holland is incredible learning everytime he spoke! And there is another terrible war coming. As spoken of in Daniel 7 and John Taylor's vision. LOVE the comment about falling at the ground when teaching the tree! I have for a long time felt that this is the key. Of those that didn't some later walked away from the tree as they started looking around and not focusing on the Savior as those who fall and partook intently. There is a great book that talks about exactly this that I really enjoyed! Falling to Heaven by James L Ferrell
Hermana- YOU ARE NOT FIGHTING AN UPHILL BATTLE. Remember WE KNOW the outcome to this continuation of the war in heaven. The Savior can fight His own battles, Pure Lehite🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
Hi Kaitlyn, Excellent video. There are so many comments I could make. I will keep it to one for now. I sometimes get sad and worried about some of the things said against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. How so we counteract this? I think that an LDS talk some ex/anti Mormons consider the most harmful of 2023 is most helpful here. That talk is President Nelson’s “Think Celestial.” Our future with God trumps everything else. Thank God for the living Prophet! Something else that helps me personally is your island of peace and tranquility in the internet sea of storms and chaos. Hope to see you tomorrow, 1:30pm(mdt),1130am(adt).
People say the ‘if it were possible’ part of that statement means it isn’t possible. I think the issue may actually be what someone’s definition of ‘the very elect’ is. I would think most of us listening to something like this think we are one of the very elect, but when someone who once believed in the restored gospel stops believing, do people think they weren’t one of the elect? All of the 10 virgins believed the Bridegroom was coming, but only 5 put in the effort before He came, and they were invited to the wedding.
The problem with the foolish virgins is that they didn't bring with them the extra vessel of oil the wise did so the foolish were always having to do constant refills of their lamps at the marketplace because their lamps kept on running out of oil and wouldn't last and were always going out on them. If you dont bring the extra oil to trim the lamp with then the oil that is already in the lamp will not last and will always run out in the lamp.
@AnticipatingChristsreturn I am old enough to be your Mom.😁 And I appreciate your humble support of the Brethren and the scriptures. Keep doing what you're doing ❤️❤️❤️
I find myself defending the Church from within as much as I find myself defending the Church from outside. I don't believe many are trying to attack the church from within but learn some information and then teach it as truth. Are they not going beyond the mark? The other day, I listened to a member talking about his research on Heavenly Mother and how Alma was a high priest to Heavenly Mother. There was also the claim that Heavily Mother was part of the Godhead. However, the opinion that the Almighty God is Heavenly mother doesn't align with the scriptures. Elder Benson in the 60s gave a great talk on how not to be deceived. Does information align with the scriptures. Does it align with the prophets, including the current prophet. Does it align with the Holy Ghost. Are you edified by the Holy Ghost when taught. For me, the witness for the Holy Ghost doesn't come until I have searched the scriptures and words of the prophets.
Yes!! I hope you don’t mind but I shared your comment in a video I just recorded! So many people think that just because they say they are “members” everything they say is truth.. that’s not the case! I have tried to be very careful by what I say because I never want to spread false doctrine!
@AnticipatingChristsreturn You're always welcome to share what I post. Anyone of us can say something that is not doctrinally true. The key is that when we are made aware of the truth, we can be humble enough to change our position. We can omit we were wrong. I have had to do that many times, and it allows me to have empathy for other teaching things that go beyond the mark.
Haha that’s exactly what I did in my video I will post tomorrow. I just needed to clarify something I may have said in a previous video! Thank you for your comment!! 🥰
It’s so sad! 😞 it breaks my heart! They claim to be happy though, so I guess it shouldn’t make me sad. But when we know it to be true it makes me sad that they would just leave all of the blessings God offers the faithful!
LDS PLEASE DON'T REJECT GOD OF BIBLE & FOLLOW THE FALSE GODS of Joseph Smith? ISN'T YOUR ETERNITY WORTH EXAMINING THE TRUTH? "Before me NO god was formed, nor shall there be ANY after me.” (Isaiah 43:10) If Mormonism is true, then God could not make this claim, for he was just a man at one point; nor could he claim that no gods would come after him, for that is the goal of J.S. and LDS members. Isaiah 44:6 says, "I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is NO God." & "Is there any God besides me?... I know not one". God is saying there is NOT an infinite amount of Gods, and there is none like Him. LDS teaches that there is. Either the BIBLE or LDS is false. LDS CLAIMS the bible was corrupted to justify Joseph Smith's changing of the biblical, eternal God into an evolving, created god, who is not all powerful and is one of an endless number of gods. This is a PROVABLY FALSE claim.
The Claim: In the BOM, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was CORRUPTED and "plain and precious parts" were removed AFTER the 12 apostles and after the formation of the “great and ABOMINABLE church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Nephi claims this church was founded by the DEVIL (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively TEST the BIBLE v.s. BOM. LDS paid scholar Dan McClellan in 2024: "The data pretty firmly points in the OPPOSITE direction of a historical BOM" youtube short video "Is the BOM historical?" NO Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings described by J.S. (Mormon 9:32) ever found ANYWHERE. All reputable linguists have rejected it as mythical as of 2024. Professor Charles Anthon Feb. 17, 1834 NO trace of Jewish DNA found in any Indian burial ground anywhere in the Americas from period of BOM. Thomas W. Murphy, (LDS scholar, DNA expert): “the genetic evidence shows that American Indians are NOT Jewish. The Book of Mormon is not true.” John Whitmer Historical Association Journal 2005 NO truth: Book of Abraham published with 3 drawings from an Egyptian papyrus. The book is a funerary papyrus of scenes from the Egyptian Book of the Dead. In drawings Nos. 1 & 3, Smith misidentifies everything depicted. "LDS and non-LDS Egyptologists agree that the characters on the fragments do NOT match the translation given in the book of Abraham" Quote from LDS OFFICIAL WEB PAGE NO trace of “2 million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2), with iron, brass, breast-plates, shields, and armor. Impossible for millions of dead warriors in metal armor to leave no trace. NO trace of the "great city Zarahemla"- impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla described in BOM (4 Nephi 8; D&C 125:3) to leave no trace. NO temple like Solomon's described in 2 Nephi 5:16 has ever been found yet biblical temple is easily seen in Jerusalem. This "temple" could not just disappear. NO cities mentioned in the BOM have ever been located (none of 38) ANYWHERE. Impossible for them to disappear unless they never existed. NO evidence: "The whole land was covered with buildings, and the people were as numerous, as it were the sand of the sea." Yet NOT ONE ever located. (Mormon 1:7) IMPOSSIBLE for (Jaredites, Nephites) & MILLIONS of people to have vanished. There is NO archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, botanical or dna evidence to support the BOM. LDS anthropologist Dee Green: “first myth we need to eliminate is that BOM archaeology exists”; 20 years of research “left us empty-handed” (Green 1969 p. 77) According to the Smithsonian Institute, the following items (which, according to BOM, existed in the Americas b/w 600 B.C. & 421 A.D.) have absolutely no evidence for existing in the America's during that time: Silk-Alma 4:6, Nephi 13:7; Horses-Enos 1:21; Steel-Jarom 1:8, 2 Nephi 5:15,16; Iron-2 Nephi 5:15; Coins-Alma 11:5-19; Donkeys-Mosiah 5:14, 12:5; Cattle, Cow, and Oxen-Enos 1:21; Pigs-3 Nephi 7:8; Wheat-Mosiah 9:9 NO goats, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no steel swords, no chariot parts, no brass, no evidence of Kings in BOM Alma 18: 9-12; Mosiah 8:10 & 9:9; 1 Ne 18:25 CAN WE IGNORE THE STRONG EVIDENCE AGAINST THE BOM AND JUST TRUST OUR FEELINGS AS TO IT'S TRUTH EVEN THOUGH IT CONFLICTS WITH THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE and the BIBLE? NO! D&C Section 9:8-9 - tells us that if something is true it will make our "bosom burn" and we will FEEL that it is right. Maroni 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you"
The BIBLE WARNS us against this SUBJECTIVE type of truth test. The LDS test for truth violates the Biblical test. Why? Because we have a sinful nature that can be deceived. Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusts in his own (bosom) heart is a FOOL." This is why the Bible frequently urges us to study and meditate on God's word. 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV "STUDY ... rightly dividing the word of TRUTH." Acts 17:11 "EXAMINE THE SCRIPTURES to see if what said is TRUE". 1John 4:1 says: "BELIEVE NOT EVERY SPIRIT, ... because MANY FALSE PROPHETS (J.S.) have gone out into the world."
BIBLE TEST: The Dead Sea Scrolls have been dated to as early as 350 BC. One is the Great Isaiah Scroll dated to 180 BC. Do ANY ancient scrolls show Smith's "uncorrupted" version of scripture? NO! Yet they would if the scripture was later corrupted after the 12 apostles died as Smith and Nephi said. Also, if they had been corrupted, Jesus would have corrected scripture instead of affirming it! Jesus:“ I told you EVERYTHING written about me in the Law of Moses, the Books of the Prophets, and in the Psalms had to happen.” (Luke 24:44-46) Scripture is the same today as it was 2,100+ years ago with only minor spelling and punctuation differences. J.S. lied. These scrolls are Jewish scrolls and the BOM says the Jews had the Scriptures in their "purity" and "TRUTH". 1Nephi 13:25 LDS Apologist Wayne Ham said the Isaiah scroll does not support the the BOM. Dr. Sidney B. Sperry, of BYU, said the Dead Sea Scrolls do not help the case for the BOM. BYU Professor Joseph F. McConkie: "Rather than Joseph Smith as Found in Ancient Manuscripts, it ought be Joseph Smith as Lost in Ancient Manuscripts.” (Religious Studies Center, 1984) IS THE GOD OF THE BOOK OF MORMON THE SAME ONE AS IN THE BIBLE? NO! In the LDS Church’s 147th Conf., Gen Authority Bernard P. Brockbank said: the Christ followed by Mormons is NOT THE CHRIST followed by traditional Christianity. (Ensign, May 1977 p. 26) The new testament has not been corrupted either. See the book of John. Smith changed it to make Jesus a created being. Research a 1900 year old papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri of the book of John. (written 150 AD, around the Apostle John's time) John 1:1 "In the BEGINNING was the WORD and the WORD was WITH God and the WORD WAS God." ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ (look up this ancient Greek yourself on google) John 1:1 Joseph Smith mistranslation: "In the beginning was the GOSPEL preached through the Son. And the GOSPEL was the word, and the word was with the Son, and the Son was with God, and the Son was of God." Smith's Jesus is no longer God in the flesh but the biblical Jesus is: "God was manifest in the flesh" 1Tim. 3:16 KJV. In order to try to make things work for LDS, J.S. added extra verses and verbiage into John 1 that were never there in any ancient texts to try to separate the idea of a trinity into 3 Gods. There are 4,000 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. Some go back to 350 AD and NONE support Joseph Smith's claims that the bible of today has been corrupted. Papyrus fragments exist of the New Testament dated to 175 AD and show that the new testament has NOT been "corrupted". (New Testament Docs: Are They Reliable? Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1967 pp. 15-17) The manuscript and archeological evidence for the BIBLE is the GREATEST in antiquity. I pray you know the true Jesus and not Joseph Smith's exalted man from another planet who is not eternal, not all powerful, not perfect but evolving, and was polygamous. God is much greater than the humanoid of Mormonism and NOT just ONE OF AN ENDLESS NUMBER OF EVOLVING GODS. Jesus said ALL scripture will NOT fade away but "many wolves in sheep's clothing" will come trying to add to the word. Mathew 7:15 Joseph Smith changed Jesus, the Father and taught you can become a GOD. It hurts my heart to see Mormons fall for the lie that we can become God when there is only one eternal God found in the bible. God gave us critical thinking & logical reasoning for a reason, he tells us to EXAMINE and TEST what we are being taught for TRUTH. The bible withstands the truth test. Joseph Smith's version fails the truth test. It's your eternity, study it for yourself. God bless. LDS LIES: "The law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so." Brigham Young Journal of Discourses, Vol. 10, p. 110 "The only men who become Gods, even the sons of Gods are those that enter into polygamy." (Brigham Young) Journal of Discourses 11 p.269 Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 172, “the great Messiah, the founder of the Christian religion was a Polygamist he followed the example of his Father"
Because this is the true church of Jesus Christ on earth, when people leave, they are stirred up by Satan. No granted it’s not all of them.. but he does start up a lot of them to try to tear down the truth. no matter how you look at it gods truth, and God’s people are his enemies, and he wants to destroy us and he will use any and all means necessary. We just have to turn to the Lord for patience for strength for comfort for peace for wisdom for understanding and for hope.
It really is interesting how much opposition there is to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. That alone should be a testament to others that there is more to it than just what detractors say.
Holland is definitely a favorite!!😇🙏 Sad thing....The very elect have already been deceived. How many members have no clue who Joseph Smith is? The honest, honorable, loyal, faithful man that he was. He never had more than one wife and no such practice ever came from God yet, our members believe God would command such suffering and humiliation to come women and children and call it holy as long as the name of God is used to justify such horrific practice. "The wolves amongst our flock are more numerous and devious today. Not only are there apostates within our midst, but there are also apostate DOCTRINES, that are taught in our CLASSES and from our PULPITS and that appear in our PUBLICATIONS. And these precepts of men cause our people to stumble... Through their own reasoning and a few misapplied scriptures(Jacob), they try to sell us the precepts and philosophies of men." Ezra Taft Benson | Conference Report
Im so confused by your comment.. on one hand you say Holland is a favorite. That Joseph smith was faithful, loyal and honest…. Then you continue to say that polygamy wasn’t instituted by Joseph Smith. You can’t just hand pick parts that you like. Yes the church doesn’t practice polygamy now. But there was a time when it was needful that they did. While messy, it was never a forced thing within the church and it was instituted to a very limited number of saints. We don’t know all the reasons for these things but we know that they are a wise purpose in God. And the early Saints knew that too and trusted in God. Many of us are here today as a result of polygamy, we are seeing the fruits of it, even if we don’t understand it in our 2024 minds.
@AnticipatingChristsreturn I totally hear what you're saying. I'm an active member who loves the gospel, I sustain our prophet and leaders and yes, Holland is a favorite as well as Kearon😇👍. Have you ever read what Joseph said about polygamy? I mean I could copy and paste both he and Hyrum's talks and warnings but there's SO MUCH!! Polygamy is human sacrifice and I can promise on my grave that no almighty, infinite creator needs to sacrifice the lives of women and children to fulfill his purposes. The US census for the early saints have men out numbered women by the 100s. Polygamist wives had fewer children (average 3) where monogamous averaged 12 children. Adam and Eve didn't practice, Noah and his sons didn't and Polygamy was the very reason Lehi was commanded to leave Jerusalem. I have studied much on Brigham Young because I'm related to him and wanted to know more. He took wives and children from good husbands, Zina being one of them as well as her two boys. It broke her husband's heart. I don't remember adultery being justified anywhere in scripture. Bruce R McConkie said God will allow false doctrine within his own church because it's up to us to know the true character of the almighty heavenly father. Even Nelson in his own words when asked about the practices of early saints said "there's doctrine of man and doctrine of God." The very job of a prophet is to serve the people, never taking upon himself riches, wives and property. Brigham did all that. If you read the real writings of the early saints the women suffered great depression, one of Clayton's wives wrote how she wishes she could unalive herself because of emotional turmoil. Others lost babies because they delivered alone while husband was with other wife. Brigham taught false doctrine...preached that God and Adam were the same being, blacks couldn't have the priesthood, blood atonement was an act of God and Polygamy. The affidavits we have from the "women" were not written by the women, they were written by one man who wrote them all and it was done decades later for the purpose of the temple lot case which, by the way, we still don't own because there was never evidence that Joseph had more than one wife. Read the lot case testimonies some day, they're hilarious on the men's part and women who couldn't remember where the ceremony took place, what day it happened, etc....Also, Abraham was not Polygamist either. Sarah was the one who sent him to the maid and that caused problems for them. Point being, no God I worship is that weak that he would have women and children treated that way when he takes chastity seriously as well as marriage and family being the very purpose of this life. Joseph swore he never had more than one wife and I believe him. If you believe Joseph had other wives than you have to believe he was a liar, adulterer and ped0. You also have to believe God is a liar since it goes against almost every commandment. We are the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Not the church of whoredoms. The devil used that practice to try and destroy the church and he almost won. Also, the saints were never meant to leave Nauvoo. God said he would fight their battles if they kept their covenants and they did not. Thus the horrific journey to the desert. If we can't open our eyes to new information like the Joseph Smith papers, then how will we ever know the the sealed portion of the book of Mormon?
I have just found out that my son, just got done fighting with me that he didn't want to go to seminary. Or even sign up for it. He finally gave in and went into seminary. Satan is really taking the youth right now. My teenage kids dad has come back into the picture. Their father's religion is paganism. These kids are getting more and more confused. Drake and Emma is their names and I am asking for a lot of prayer for these kids. I put their names in the temple but it does say in the scriptures that when there is two or three that have gathered he will be there. I need help with these kids.
Thank you so much isn't this what we're supposed to be doing praying for each other. Their father just came back in their life 2 years ago. Teenagers have a hard time anyway of identifying themselves. This doesn't help.@@AnticipatingChristsreturn
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You are not alone. Thank you for keeping up with everything.
This is exactly what I needed to hear. I have been very distracted and not putting god first in my life lately. Thank you
Ohh 🥰 I love your humility! That’s what the Gospel of Jesus is all about! 🥰
Thank you for this podcast! The Gospel is true! There is a prophet in the land. He speaks to us on behalf of Jesus Christ, whose church this is! The deceiver is seeking those who would be lead away. We will not be moved, or shaken! We love you.. do not be discouraged! ❤
Thank you so much!! 😊 I love you! ❤️
I love your insight that is so on point and clear. I’m 70 years old and a member since I was 18. I served a good and noble mission. I married in the temple and have sought to hold to the rod my entire life….Many times dealing with the headwinds of challenge. Many times stumbling and injuring myself along the way. We all have those injuries of living life.
Oft times the deceptions of the world impact members of my family I love so much.
Most important is that we hold tight to the rod. Lovingly press forward and patiently serve and invite everyone we love to stay close enough that they will feel desirous to be close enough to hear our voice as we traverse the darkness. If they can but hear our voice, I believe we will be able to help our loved ones navigate the darkness if they know we love them and will not want not to wander too far away from the sound of our voices… and slowly and surely the covenants we made that strengthen us to hold to the rod will help deliver those we love through the darkness to the Tree of Life..
I love your beautiful Spirit; the noble work you are doing to encourage the Saints of our Living God to press forward with every footstep. Today the challenges are as intensely spiritual as were the physical challenges to our Pioneer ancestors who walked that trail to Zion. We too will be able to sing….”All is well, all is well…
Thank you so much!! I love your insight!
Thank you! As David Alexander calls it, the accusatory fog has been put over the most glorious thing on earth by other Christians as well as former members. It is crucial to have discernment and hold tight to the rod. We need to boldly proclaim the truth as you are doing.
Thank you so much! I love that phrase! I want to remember that!
This is a PERFECT talk explaining that thinking we as members can't be deceived IS a deceit! It is all through the scriptures. Especially Isaiah. Thanks for sharing this awesome talk, Elder Holland is incredible learning everytime he spoke! And there is another terrible war coming. As spoken of in Daniel 7 and John Taylor's vision. LOVE the comment about falling at the ground when teaching the tree! I have for a long time felt that this is the key. Of those that didn't some later walked away from the tree as they started looking around and not focusing on the Savior as those who fall and partook intently. There is a great book that talks about exactly this that I really enjoyed! Falling to Heaven by James L Ferrell
This is such a great talk! I’m glad you’re going over it.
Thank you so much for this conversation because it's really his home with a lot of it thank you
Hermana- YOU ARE NOT FIGHTING AN UPHILL BATTLE. Remember WE KNOW the outcome to this continuation of the war in heaven. The Savior can fight His own battles, Pure Lehite🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
Hi Kaitlyn,
Excellent video. There are so many comments I could make. I will keep it to one for now. I sometimes get sad and worried about some of the things said against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. How so we counteract this? I think that an LDS talk some ex/anti Mormons consider the most harmful of 2023 is most helpful here. That talk is President Nelson’s “Think Celestial.” Our future with God trumps everything else. Thank God for the living Prophet!
Something else that helps me personally is your island of peace and tranquility in the internet sea of storms and chaos.
Hope to see you tomorrow, 1:30pm(mdt),1130am(adt).
I love that.. and how do we think celestial… we Hear His words.. “Think on me thou Ransomed One, I have engraven thee upon the palms of my hands.”
Oh that’s an interesting point of view! Thank you!
Yes! Tomorrow! Book club!
People say the ‘if it were possible’ part of that statement means it isn’t possible. I think the issue may actually be what someone’s definition of ‘the very elect’ is. I would think most of us listening to something like this think we are one of the very elect, but when someone who once believed in the restored gospel stops believing, do people think they weren’t one of the elect? All of the 10 virgins believed the Bridegroom was coming, but only 5 put in the effort before He came, and they were invited to the wedding.
I love the way you put this, because what we put into it is what we're going to get out of it. President Nielsen tells us that we decide where we go
The problem with the foolish virgins is that they didn't bring with them the extra vessel of oil the wise did so the foolish were always having to do constant refills of their lamps at the marketplace because their lamps kept on running out of oil and wouldn't last
and were always going out on them. If you dont bring the extra oil to trim the lamp with then the oil that is already in the lamp will not last and will always run out in the lamp.
This was a great video sweetie! You are not alone. We love to hear your testimony ❤❤❤
Thank you!! 😊 your comments are always so nice. You are always so kind and an encouraging mom figure! 🥰 I really appreciate it!
@AnticipatingChristsreturn I am old enough to be your Mom.😁 And I appreciate your humble support of the Brethren and the scriptures. Keep doing what you're doing ❤️❤️❤️
I find myself defending the Church from within as much as I find myself defending the Church from outside. I don't believe many are trying to attack the church from within but learn some information and then teach it as truth. Are they not going beyond the mark? The other day, I listened to a member talking about his research on Heavenly Mother and how Alma was a high priest to Heavenly Mother. There was also the claim that Heavily Mother was part of the Godhead. However, the opinion that the Almighty God is Heavenly mother doesn't align with the scriptures.
Elder Benson in the 60s gave a great talk on how not to be deceived. Does information align with the scriptures. Does it align with the prophets, including the current prophet. Does it align with the Holy Ghost. Are you edified by the Holy Ghost when taught. For me, the witness for the Holy Ghost doesn't come until I have searched the scriptures and words of the prophets.
Yes!! I hope you don’t mind but I shared your comment in a video I just recorded! So many people think that just because they say they are “members” everything they say is truth.. that’s not the case!
I have tried to be very careful by what I say because I never want to spread false doctrine!
@AnticipatingChristsreturn You're always welcome to share what I post.
Anyone of us can say something that is not doctrinally true. The key is that when we are made aware of the truth, we can be humble enough to change our position. We can omit we were wrong. I have had to do that many times, and it allows me to have empathy for other teaching things that go beyond the mark.
Haha that’s exactly what I did in my video I will post tomorrow. I just needed to clarify something I may have said in a previous video! Thank you for your comment!! 🥰
I have seen many many elect being deceived and captured by the adversary…
It’s so sad! 😞 it breaks my heart! They claim to be happy though, so I guess it shouldn’t make me sad. But when we know it to be true it makes me sad that they would just leave all of the blessings God offers the faithful!
LDS PLEASE DON'T REJECT GOD OF BIBLE & FOLLOW THE FALSE GODS of Joseph Smith?
ISN'T YOUR ETERNITY WORTH EXAMINING THE TRUTH?
"Before me NO god was formed, nor shall there be ANY after me.” (Isaiah 43:10) If Mormonism is true, then God could not make this claim, for he was just a man at one point; nor could he claim that no gods would come after him, for that is the goal of J.S. and LDS members.
Isaiah 44:6 says, "I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is NO God." & "Is there any God besides me?... I know not one". God is saying there is NOT an infinite amount of Gods, and there is none like Him. LDS teaches that there is. Either the BIBLE or LDS is false.
LDS CLAIMS the bible was corrupted to justify Joseph Smith's changing of the biblical, eternal God into an evolving, created god, who is not all powerful and is one of an endless number of gods. This is a PROVABLY FALSE claim.
The Claim: In the BOM, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was CORRUPTED and "plain and precious parts" were removed AFTER the 12 apostles and after the formation of the “great and ABOMINABLE church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Nephi claims this church was founded by the DEVIL (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively TEST the BIBLE v.s. BOM.
LDS paid scholar Dan McClellan in 2024: "The data pretty firmly points in the OPPOSITE direction of a historical BOM" youtube short video "Is the BOM historical?"
NO Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings described by J.S. (Mormon 9:32) ever found ANYWHERE. All reputable linguists have rejected it as mythical as of 2024. Professor Charles Anthon Feb. 17, 1834
NO trace of Jewish DNA found in any Indian burial ground anywhere in the Americas from period of BOM. Thomas W. Murphy, (LDS scholar, DNA expert): “the genetic evidence shows that American Indians are NOT Jewish. The Book of Mormon is not true.” John Whitmer Historical Association Journal 2005
NO truth: Book of Abraham published with 3 drawings from an Egyptian papyrus. The book is a funerary papyrus of scenes from the Egyptian Book of the Dead. In drawings Nos. 1 & 3, Smith misidentifies everything depicted. "LDS and non-LDS Egyptologists agree that the characters on the fragments do NOT match the translation given in the book of Abraham" Quote from LDS OFFICIAL WEB PAGE
NO trace of “2 million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2), with iron, brass, breast-plates, shields, and armor. Impossible for millions of dead warriors in metal armor to leave no trace.
NO trace of the "great city Zarahemla"- impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla described in BOM (4 Nephi 8; D&C 125:3) to leave no trace.
NO temple like Solomon's described in 2 Nephi 5:16 has ever been found yet biblical temple is easily seen in Jerusalem. This "temple" could not just disappear.
NO cities mentioned in the BOM have ever been located (none of 38) ANYWHERE. Impossible for them to disappear unless they never existed.
NO evidence: "The whole land was covered with buildings, and the people were as numerous, as it were the sand of the sea." Yet NOT ONE ever located. (Mormon 1:7) IMPOSSIBLE for (Jaredites, Nephites) & MILLIONS of people to have vanished.
There is NO archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, botanical or dna evidence to support the BOM. LDS anthropologist Dee Green: “first myth we need to eliminate is that BOM archaeology exists”; 20 years of research “left us empty-handed” (Green 1969 p. 77)
According to the Smithsonian Institute, the following items (which, according to BOM, existed in the Americas b/w 600 B.C. & 421 A.D.) have absolutely no evidence for existing in the America's during that time: Silk-Alma 4:6, Nephi 13:7; Horses-Enos 1:21; Steel-Jarom 1:8, 2 Nephi 5:15,16; Iron-2 Nephi 5:15; Coins-Alma 11:5-19; Donkeys-Mosiah 5:14, 12:5; Cattle, Cow, and Oxen-Enos 1:21; Pigs-3 Nephi 7:8; Wheat-Mosiah 9:9
NO goats, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no steel swords, no chariot parts, no brass, no evidence of Kings in BOM Alma 18: 9-12; Mosiah 8:10 & 9:9; 1 Ne 18:25
CAN WE IGNORE THE STRONG EVIDENCE AGAINST THE BOM AND JUST TRUST OUR FEELINGS AS TO IT'S TRUTH EVEN THOUGH IT CONFLICTS WITH THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE and the BIBLE? NO!
D&C Section 9:8-9 - tells us that if something is true it will make our "bosom burn" and we will FEEL that it is right. Maroni 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you"
The BIBLE WARNS us against this SUBJECTIVE type of truth test. The LDS test for truth violates the Biblical test. Why? Because we have a sinful nature that can be deceived. Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusts in his own (bosom) heart is a FOOL."
This is why the Bible frequently urges us to study and meditate on God's word. 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV "STUDY ... rightly dividing the word of TRUTH." Acts 17:11 "EXAMINE THE SCRIPTURES to see if what said is TRUE". 1John 4:1 says: "BELIEVE NOT EVERY SPIRIT, ... because MANY FALSE PROPHETS (J.S.) have gone out into the world."
BIBLE TEST: The Dead Sea Scrolls have been dated to as early as 350 BC. One is the Great Isaiah Scroll dated to 180 BC.
Do ANY ancient scrolls show Smith's "uncorrupted" version of scripture? NO! Yet they would if the scripture was later corrupted after the 12 apostles died as Smith and Nephi said.
Also, if they had been corrupted, Jesus would have corrected scripture instead of affirming it! Jesus:“ I told you EVERYTHING written about me in the Law of Moses, the Books of the Prophets, and in the Psalms had to happen.” (Luke 24:44-46)
Scripture is the same today as it was 2,100+ years ago with only minor spelling and punctuation differences. J.S. lied. These scrolls are Jewish scrolls and the BOM says the Jews had the Scriptures in their "purity" and "TRUTH". 1Nephi 13:25
LDS Apologist Wayne Ham said the Isaiah scroll does not support the the BOM. Dr. Sidney B. Sperry, of BYU, said the Dead Sea Scrolls do not help the case for the BOM. BYU Professor Joseph F. McConkie: "Rather than Joseph Smith as Found in Ancient Manuscripts, it ought be Joseph Smith as Lost in Ancient Manuscripts.” (Religious Studies Center, 1984)
IS THE GOD OF THE BOOK OF MORMON THE SAME ONE AS IN THE BIBLE? NO! In the LDS Church’s 147th Conf., Gen Authority Bernard P. Brockbank said: the Christ followed by Mormons is NOT THE CHRIST followed by traditional Christianity. (Ensign, May 1977 p. 26)
The new testament has not been corrupted either. See the book of John. Smith changed it to make Jesus a created being. Research a 1900 year old papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri of the book of John. (written 150 AD, around the Apostle John's time)
John 1:1 "In the BEGINNING was the WORD and the WORD was WITH God and the WORD WAS God." ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ (look up this ancient Greek yourself on google)
John 1:1 Joseph Smith mistranslation: "In the beginning was the GOSPEL preached through the Son. And the GOSPEL was the word, and the word was with the Son, and the Son was with God, and the Son was of God." Smith's Jesus is no longer God in the flesh but the biblical Jesus is: "God was manifest in the flesh" 1Tim. 3:16 KJV. In order to try to make things work for LDS, J.S. added extra verses and verbiage into John 1 that were never there in any ancient texts to try to separate the idea of a trinity into 3 Gods.
There are 4,000 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. Some go back to 350 AD and NONE support Joseph Smith's claims that the bible of today has been corrupted.
Papyrus fragments exist of the New Testament dated to 175 AD and show that the new testament has NOT been "corrupted". (New Testament Docs: Are They Reliable? Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1967 pp. 15-17)
The manuscript and archeological evidence for the BIBLE is the GREATEST in antiquity. I pray you know the true Jesus and not Joseph Smith's exalted man from another planet who is not eternal, not all powerful, not perfect but evolving, and was polygamous.
God is much greater than the humanoid of Mormonism and NOT just ONE OF AN ENDLESS NUMBER OF EVOLVING GODS.
Jesus said ALL scripture will NOT fade away but "many wolves in sheep's clothing" will come trying to add to the word. Mathew 7:15 Joseph Smith changed Jesus, the Father and taught you can become a GOD.
It hurts my heart to see Mormons fall for the lie that we can become God when there is only one eternal God found in the bible.
God gave us critical thinking & logical reasoning for a reason, he tells us to EXAMINE and TEST what we are being taught for TRUTH. The bible withstands the truth test. Joseph Smith's version fails the truth test. It's your eternity, study it for yourself. God bless.
LDS LIES: "The law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so." Brigham Young Journal of Discourses, Vol. 10, p. 110
"The only men who become Gods, even the sons of Gods are those that enter into polygamy." (Brigham Young) Journal of Discourses 11 p.269
Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 172, “the great Messiah, the founder of the Christian religion was a Polygamist he followed the example of his Father"
Because this is the true church of Jesus Christ on earth, when people leave, they are stirred up by Satan. No granted it’s not all of them.. but he does start up a lot of them to try to tear down the truth. no matter how you look at it gods truth, and God’s people are his enemies, and he wants to destroy us and he will use any and all means necessary. We just have to turn to the Lord for patience for strength for comfort for peace for wisdom for understanding and for hope.
It really is interesting how much opposition there is to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. That alone should be a testament to others that there is more to it than just what detractors say.
Yes!! 💯
Holland is definitely a favorite!!😇🙏
Sad thing....The very elect have already been deceived. How many members have no clue who Joseph Smith is? The honest, honorable, loyal, faithful man that he was. He never had more than one wife and no such practice ever came from God yet, our members believe God would command such suffering and humiliation to come women and children and call it holy as long as the name of God is used to justify such horrific practice.
"The wolves amongst our flock are more numerous and devious today. Not only are there apostates within our midst, but there are also apostate DOCTRINES, that are taught in our CLASSES and from our PULPITS and that appear in our PUBLICATIONS. And these precepts of men cause our people to stumble...
Through their own reasoning and a few misapplied scriptures(Jacob), they try to sell us the precepts and philosophies of men."
Ezra Taft Benson | Conference Report
Im so confused by your comment.. on one hand you say Holland is a favorite. That Joseph smith was faithful, loyal and honest…. Then you continue to say that polygamy wasn’t instituted by Joseph Smith. You can’t just hand pick parts that you like.
Yes the church doesn’t practice polygamy now. But there was a time when it was needful that they did. While messy, it was never a forced thing within the church and it was instituted to a very limited number of saints.
We don’t know all the reasons for these things but we know that they are a wise purpose in God. And the early Saints knew that too and trusted in God.
Many of us are here today as a result of polygamy, we are seeing the fruits of it, even if we don’t understand it in our 2024 minds.
@AnticipatingChristsreturn I totally hear what you're saying. I'm an active member who loves the gospel, I sustain our prophet and leaders and yes, Holland is a favorite as well as Kearon😇👍.
Have you ever read what Joseph said about polygamy? I mean I could copy and paste both he and Hyrum's talks and warnings but there's SO MUCH!!
Polygamy is human sacrifice and I can promise on my grave that no almighty, infinite creator needs to sacrifice the lives of women and children to fulfill his purposes. The US census for the early saints have men out numbered women by the 100s. Polygamist wives had fewer children (average 3) where
monogamous averaged 12 children. Adam and Eve didn't practice, Noah and his sons didn't and Polygamy was the very reason Lehi was commanded to leave Jerusalem. I have studied much on Brigham Young because I'm related to him and wanted to know more. He took wives and children from good husbands, Zina being one of them as well as her two boys. It broke her husband's heart. I don't remember adultery being justified anywhere in scripture. Bruce R McConkie said God will allow false doctrine within his own church because it's up to us to know the true character of the almighty heavenly father. Even Nelson in his own words when asked about the practices of early saints said "there's doctrine of man and doctrine of God."
The very job of a prophet is to serve the people, never taking upon himself riches, wives and property. Brigham did all that. If you read the real writings of the early saints the women suffered great depression, one of Clayton's wives wrote how she wishes she could unalive herself because of emotional turmoil. Others lost babies because they delivered alone while husband was with other wife.
Brigham taught false doctrine...preached that God and Adam were the same being, blacks couldn't have the priesthood, blood atonement was an act of God and Polygamy. The affidavits we have from the "women" were not written by the women, they were written by one man who wrote them all and it was done decades later for the purpose of the temple lot case which, by the way, we still don't own because there was never evidence that Joseph had more than one wife. Read the lot case testimonies some day, they're hilarious on the men's part and women who couldn't remember where the ceremony took place, what day it happened, etc....Also, Abraham was not Polygamist either. Sarah was the one who sent him to the maid and that caused problems for them.
Point being, no God I worship is that weak that he would have women and children treated that way when he takes chastity seriously as well as marriage and family being the very purpose of this life. Joseph swore he never had more than one wife and I believe him. If you believe Joseph had other wives than you have to believe he was a liar, adulterer and ped0. You also have to believe God is a liar since it goes against almost every commandment. We are the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Not the church of whoredoms. The devil used that practice to try and destroy the church and he almost won.
Also, the saints were never meant to leave Nauvoo. God said he would fight their battles if they kept their covenants and they did not. Thus the horrific journey to the desert. If we can't open our eyes to new information like the Joseph Smith papers, then how will we ever know the the sealed portion of the book of Mormon?
I have just found out that my son, just got done fighting with me that he didn't want to go to seminary. Or even sign up for it. He finally gave in and went into seminary. Satan is really taking the youth right now. My teenage kids dad has come back into the picture. Their father's religion is paganism. These kids are getting more and more confused. Drake and Emma is their names and I am asking for a lot of prayer for these kids. I put their names in the temple but it does say in the scriptures that when there is two or three that have gathered he will be there. I need help with these kids.
Oh! I’m so sorry!! I will definitely pray for them! 🥰
I also just put their names and your name in the Layton Utah temple! 🥰❤️
Thank you so much isn't this what we're supposed to be doing praying for each other. Their father just came back in their life 2 years ago. Teenagers have a hard time anyway of identifying themselves. This doesn't help.@@AnticipatingChristsreturn
I also put their names in the temple too
Their names are Emmaline Manning, Draco's Manning.
How can Jesus "Return"? He never "Came" in the first place.
IT IS ALL A FAIRY TALE.
Best fairy tale ever!
If your right, at least it gave me peace and comfort in my life. And if I’m right.. all the better! I’ll save you a spot! 😊