The Phoenix Suns Are PATHETIC
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2024
- The Phoenix Suns have become the first team to be eliminated from this years playoffs and overall their season has been a massive disappointment. After trading for Kevin Durant last year and then trading for Bradley Beal last offseason it was championship or bust for the Phoenix Suns. Not only did the Suns not make it out of the first round, but they didn't even win a single playoff game. Today we talk about how pathetic the Phoenix Suns are.
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KD is never beating the super team allegations
Ain't no allegations, it's the truth
@@amarigrover2685 at this point yeah lmfao. And he failed in like 4 of them. Only one that worked was GSW.
So he’s 1/4 in superteam successes
Nor the “bus rider” allegations
He's like see guys? It's not a super team obviously, we got swept in the 1st round
@@mort996 do you think this team is a bigger flop than his Brooklyn nets super team?
The irony of it all is that Chris Paul and Ayton probably wouldve at least helped them win 1 game. Beal is overrated as hell.
Ayton wasn't gonna do shit 😂😂
Ayton would have gotten bullied by gobert
Beal fucking sucks. Ayton isn’t that good either, but as long as CP3 doesn’t get injured then they could be set for the conference finals at most
Gobert would’ve bullied the hell out of Ayton in the paint
Nurkic isn't much of a downgrade compared to Ayton. But I agree with CP3
There was that one video about KD joining the warriors and winning championships, and in return, the rest of his career gets cursed, something like that. You know what, I believe it.
Yh Dylan was mocking it😂😂
@@Tyrese-xs8gs yes thank you for reminding me. it was dylandoesbasketball
"I don't believe in the illuminati or no s*** like that. But after this I might....I might believe in it"
@@unhinged461I mean he’s not lying. KD sacrificed his career for those two meaningless rings
nah, this is just proving it was curry who was the true mvp of those warriors titles, caring Durant. the numbers bear it out cause when curry wasn't playing the warriors were a bellow 500 team with Durant on the court. meanwhile the warriors won just as many games with Durant out as with him in. all durant did was feast on the single teams he faced because of curry's gravity. he's a great scorer but that's about it.
Suns owners went from "you're cheap af!"
To "you're over spending with no plan"💀 and getting swept
i mean it was literally two different owners from the title run era to now
😁 The cheap owner you're talking about is Robert Sarver, the former owner of the Suns. The idiot that's overspending now is named Matt Ishbia...
They for new owners
Guys guys, I know it's a new owner but imo, this might just be a worse outcome.
The irony is that Sarver turned out to be a scumbag, but he made smarter decisions at least.
Beal: "I've never been swept all my life"
Proceeds to play shit all game and then foul out.
Bradley Beal hasn't played more than 60 games in a season for five years. Imagine having to pay his max contract virtually knowing you're only going to have the use of him for 75% of the season.
@@VinceLyle2161i mean it sounds fine knowing that embiid exist
@@spaghettisauce445I’m taking the 40% games embiid plays then 70% of Beal
@@spaghettisauce445 I mean, you're not wrong.
Getting swept on one team in the first round and leaving to get swept on another team in the first round is kinda crazy.
“I ain’t never been swept before in my life” - Bradley Beal famous last words 😂
KD is forever going to be known as the player who had to join a 73 win team already established in GS because he is incapable of guiding a team to a title being the uncontested 1st option and leader, wherever he goes
If KD hadn’t left OKC, he wouldn’t be in this position. Once he overstayed his welcome with GS, he should’ve pulled what LeBron did and go back to his original team and win a chip with the youth there
AND he went there after they kicked his ass lmao
Yep I love it his legacy is already set in stone he’ll never be capable of winning on his own
The Warriors became a superteam AFTER they signed KD, not before then. He led the Thunder to the Finals as the uncontested 1st option and leader, so you're wrong about that.
@@urbaindelva7869 guiding a team to the finals and guiding them to a title is 2 different things
and the superteam thing i expressed myself wrongly, but he did went to a 73 win team
Here’s something to consider, KD’s probably the only superstar player that doesn’t have a team that he can consider home in the NBA. He burned his bridges with OKC, was never considered a part of Warrior’s culture, and failed at establishing Brooklyn and Phoenix as places he could consider home.
He's probably the biggest underachiever in league history. He has all the god given gifts but couldn't do sh*t with it.
@@DonKey496 Bro... he won MVP, got to the Finals 3 times, got FMVP twice, and he's like top 15 in points ever on crazy good efficiency. You may not like how he's done things but to say he "couldn't do shi*" is just inaccurate.
@@THE_BEAR_JEW Plenty of less gifted players accomplished way more than him as the leader/best player on the team. His 2 gsw rings don't mean much. I would argue Pistons 04, Wade 06 and Dirk 2011 rings carry more weight than his 2. Curry won rings before and after KD.
I'm not saying he's a bad player, I'm just saying he has so much talent and skill but couldn't get the job done as the main guy/leader.
As for all-time great rankings, he's closer to guys like Harden, CP3 and Russ than he is to Bron and Curry. He's not even on the same level as KG and Dirk.
@@DonKey496 What are some of these less gifted players who accomplished more?
Over the past 30 years we've got Olajuwon, MJ, Duncan, Shaq, Wade, KG/Pierce/Allen, LeBron/Wade, Steph, Kawhi, LeBron, Dirk, LeBron/AD, Giannis, Jokic, and Kobe. All those guys were the top players on their championship teams and none were worse than KD.
@@THE_BEAR_JEW In terms of talent, I'd put Pierce and Allen behind KD. Also Rasheed Wallace. Dirk was a better rebounder, but I have KD has a better scorer and defender. Wade didn't have the range and size certainly impacted him.
Many would argue KD is more talented than Steph, although I'd say Steph can make those around him better while KD doesn't.
Phoenix native who became a basketball fan during the pandemic. I got to see it all from their rise, the championship run to getting son’d by Luka and now Ant. Biggest mistake ever to trade our souls for KD and Beal. Surely one of these years the suns won’t disappoint me
Its hilarious how at the beginning of the season most everybody had Phoenix and Milwaukee penciled in for the Finals... Now they're both about to get bounced in the opening round.
At least Milwaukee has injuries in the playoffs to blame
In what year? 2022? Most people have Boston and Denver in the Finals
@@captainfalcon2878 At the beginning of this season. But yes, Most people have Denver and Boston now.
@@rig-zagis that true? At the beginning of the season I thought it was near consensus that Nuggets were taking the West?
@@Jartego It was the Nuggets and Celtics tied with the highest odds to win it all, but the Suns and Bucks were right behind them. So the OP is wrong but only slightly.
KD really think superteams still work today in this league💀
Edit: My opinion Superteams are when 3 superstars on 1 team together not 2 stars with role players.
They do. You just have to build it correctly. Having three score-first guards on the team isn't going to help anything. (Kd is basically a 6'11" SG...)
@@mistermann3225Not to mention finding the right coach who'll implement the right system and the players being willing to sacrifice. A lot goes into it.
@@urbaindelva7869100% agree.
@@mistermann3225 The new CBA - which was passed before the Beal deal - makes it impossible to get depth. They pretty much had to nail their trades after KD and somehow get worthwhile players on minimum.
Grayson Allen is no good in the playoffs either, but they just reupped.
Wolves Celtics bucks clips are all superteams
I like how the Suns originally made it to the finals off a very balanced attack with a deep roster and system that got the most out Book and CP3. Then new management was like “nah fuck it’s 2013 baby”.
It's freaking funny that Beal said he has never been sweeped in the playoffs but dude it's easy to not get sweeped if you are not in the playoffs like you Beal you're not in the playoffs most of the time
Truer words have never been spoken with this title.
They have no money, no picks, no assets, and are stuck in mediocrity. Their only chance is to pick up some players in free agency and hope that Beal, Booker, or Durant can somehow become a "point gaurd."
TLDR: They're screwed
They need to trade kd and Beal if they can
@@seanhess5736I heard Beal has no trade clause. Idk how it works exactly, but they probably stuck with him now. Also, his contract is terrible. Nobody's gonna want him 😂.
Yeah, good luck with that.
@@DonKey496 Beal can be traded if he okay's it - he isn't going anywhere he doesn't want to. And yeah three years left on that contract at over $50M/year.
"I've never been swept a day in my life... I'll be damned if that happens." - Bradley Beal
this an all time sell from the Suns man. canmt imagine what that fanbase goin thru 😭
As a non american, what amazes me is how can owners/Teams burn so much money on mid players or give stupid contracts to stars that don't Even care about the franchise and jump to another Team the moment things don't go well
"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it." - George Santayana
Kevin Durant did not understand this quote, this is the second time he's been swept with a "super team" in 3 years.
KD has been the centerpiece of two failed super teams.
“Give the ball to your stars” literally every failed super team the last 5 years
As a suns fan, I knew Bradley Beal was not the answer, he takes away from Devin Booker, they need a point guard, fire Vogel and get rid of Beal but that’s impossible
I don't agree with firing Frank Vogel. The coach isn't always the problem. They need to get rid of Bradley Beal and get a good point guard + some role players.
Vogel isn't the issue. There's not much you can do when you've got an entire roster that can't play defense. This league is more offense friendly these days but you still need to play at least some defense. It's why the top teams are who they are this year. All of em can bring it on the defensive end if necessary.
They would be doing Vogel a favor by firing him. He did not ask for this roster. He is a defense-first coach, and this roster does not fit his philosophy at all.
@@mistermann3225 Well they can't. He has a no trade clause so he isn't going anywhere
@@jordancromwellNot to mention even if he didn’t had that no trade clause no team is going to want his contract either
They couldn’t even get one game????
If Kawhi didn't tear his knee against the Jazz, I doubt the Suns would've even made an NBA Finals.
If ad didn’t get hurt the lakers would’ve bounced them in the first round
Or nuggets without Murray
Lol here's a trio of losers still angry over the suns kicking their asses in 2021 love it 😂😂😂😂😂
@@victorcardiel14442021? 😂 Dude
@@victorcardiel1444and yall got swept in 2024😂 no ring out of it AT ALL.
As a bona-fide hater, these playoffs went way worse than I ever expected. God, it's like ecstasy watching this team fall apart
Next up, Harden with the Clippers.
suns’ management shouldn’t have panicked after that 2022 playoff performance. they should’ve held out and kept their young core.
Sometimes teams can't recover from devastating losses and they'll sometimes over react to them on impulse. I've seen it happen on multiple occasions as a Vikings fan.
@@manzac112the Kd trade was the correct one. They were playing sorry after their embarrassing loss to the Mavs
Dumb warriors won 2022 and out playoffs
@@lemman7450 Yeah I stand by that trade too. It's Beal that killed any chance they had.
This is the stupidest move in recent NBA history, probably ever.
Matt ishbia starin at a gun on his desk rn
Worst owner in the league right now.
As a Nuggets fan, I genuinely love how that team has absolutely destroyed the idea of the Big 3.
Suns fans finally humbled after this embarrassing post season. KD is old. Beal was never going to get them over the hump. And Booker is not a guy who can win you a championship as a first option. Back to the drawing board to see what they can do in 2031 when they finally get a first round pick.
The irony of this team is two fold:
1. They shipped CP3 not realizing that the team's actual problem was just Ayton. They traded CP3 away for a player that was redundant with KD and Booker based on how he gets his points but who brought nothing additional to the table--he was also injury prone like their other top two guys... they should have been in the market for OG anunoby or Siakim, both players that cost less and aren't redundant and who require fewer touches to be efficient and are better defenders. It probably would have cost them less as well. Damn, they could have probably gunned for Trae young... would have made more sense.
2. KD left GSW and kind of ragged on the motion offense in favor of more isolation play. But on a team with no point guard, it probably would have been the best option to make this team better--probably could have bumped their seed up by 1-2 spots... because on a team with no point guard where you're already turnover prone, may as well get other guys' offense going to help spread the floor. KD for some reason didn't realize that that GSW team was so great because they actually took advantage of having 3 great scorers on the floor at the same time by setting the table for anyone else who was on the floor with them--better spacing.
Now they're cooked and their best option legitimately is to trade KD AND Booker, because they're not good enough to even get out of the first round and have no assets left to even improve beyond signing a bunch of minimum contracts. Contracts they can't even get value out of because they have no point guard. May as well start the rebuild now. They had a good run, and we should genuinely remember this team positively, but it's over.
"Ragged on the motion offense." That should be on Durant's gravestone.
Wants to win a title outside of GSW, but wants to do it playing an archaic form of basketball that straight-up doesn't work anymore.
Good luck with that.
Nothing but facts
Also, can we low key have a conversation about how Ant genuinely might have an argument as the best shooting guard in the league?
Not might HE IS!!!!
@@Joshkiddy15.he already is better than D-Mitch, and his only comp was Devin Booker who he beat the shit out of. He probably is
wait, is he a SG?
@@felixmartinez1100 yeah
@@naoikeda9472 Edwards is a much better defender than Mitchell and that makes a huge in his over all impact.
This is what happens when you value star talent over hard workers for what you gave up for Beal is not sufficient to what you needed for the team now you have three players that are gonna be paid $50 million each over the next several years so you’re in the hole and you have no room to get other help so you kind of put yourself in a hole for the next five years at least
The Nets tried it twice and failed spectacularly, killing their assets for years. The Suns looked at KD and said, yeah, we want some of that sweet action..
@@recoil53 right ?!! Like how many times do we have to teach this lesson old man ?😂😂
@@Infamous6091 And I forgot about the Clippers too! They don't have control of their picks for a while and might actually re-up Paul George and Harden. Just about a billion dollar mess.
@@recoil53 oh do not get me started on the clippers man so much potential but we’re just left with a lot of what if I love Leonard always had a lot of respect for him, but you can’t really trust his availability especially when it’s this time of season where you need them most and then Paul George is a free agent James Harden a free agent so you got some money that you’re gonna have to throw to these guys so this is an interesting one too, man
@@Infamous6091 I'm sorry for what's happening to your team, but I really like it when Harden is eliminated.
What's worse is that the Suns don't look even close to competing for a chip. Not this year, not in 5 years.
1) They have no picks
2) No cap space
3) KD is close to the end of his career and is turning 36 by the beginning of next season.
4) You're lucky to get 50 games out of Beal, and even luckier if you can get decent play from him 75% of those games.
5) Booker is not some young kid anymore. He's gonna be 28 early next season and they're not gonna be able to START a rebuild until he's 31. So they're wasting at least 5 years of his prime in total.
Oh yeah, and the final nail in the coffin is that they're stuck in the West.
What made the Suns make the finals was attitude. They were young, hungry, talented, and close. They had amazing chemistry. They played together and had fun. Ever since Cam Johnson and Mikhail bridges left, that spirit went with them and they haven't been the same since. I called it then, and I'm still screaming it to whoever will listen. That kd trade was worse than Shaq for Shawn Marion
“Why shouldn’t I be in it? That’s the question you should ask. Why not? What haven’t I done?” - Kevin ‘Bus Rider’ Durant
As a Suns fan this video hurts 😭 but gotta support Synthetic Sports!
Honestly I think getting rid of DA and getting Nurk and Allen was great. Should have never traded for Beal since it made the cap situation hell. I pray the Suns give me one chip in my lifetime
no first round picks til 2031😂
the organization f-d up giving away role players to get an injury prone aging diva
Frank Vogel getting saddled with another overpaid Washington Wizard and getting bounced
I’m a Lakers fan, and I didn’t care for Vogel when he was there. But if u hire a defensive-minded coach and ur team is anything but defensive-oriented, u get this kinda outcome
NBA franchises gotta understand superteams, big 3, etc etc. doesn't always equate to championships, DEPTH does.
Yes, and the other fact is that sometimes (sometimes) "Superteams" do not play together well and silo their efforts on the court. You cannot manufacture chemistry most times.
I have a suns fan friend, and I’ve been following him around all day saying “respectfully, I don’t know how teams are gonna guard us”. Damn suns were so cocky at the start of the year.
Charles Barkley once said, "kd is a busrider"
They even used an image of a school bus for their gone fishing segment last night.
kd is the living case of "those who play well does not necessarily understand the game of basketball well".
Just see how bad his choices of teammates was besides the warriors and nets.
The Beal trade was their fatal mistake. KD and Booker already had the ability to rack up pts last year, Beal gave them nothing more in the scoring department and that’s literally all he’s supposed to be good for. They should have attempted to trade for better role players instead of adding star power.
Literally every single pundit and basketball analyst had suns out the west. Also had nets before that. Can we please stop listening to these dummies.
Yeah, they don’t like Denver or Minnesota. Small market teams don’t move the needle for them.
3 offensive guys and a bunch weirdos is a hilarious quote
I guess this is what happens when you have 3 stars that need the ball in their hands.
Maybe keeping CP3 would have been better in that regard.
Paul is better than Beal, that much is obvious.
Now I gotta get a Nash-Stoudemire Suns Retrospective
As a suns fan I am completely disappointed about this team because we were supposed to be up there with nuggets and celtics and we can’t get 1 playoff win
How this team went from making the finals a few years back to getting swept round by the wolves who haven't won a single playoff game in decades
I think Bradley Beal and Dillon Brooks gon have bright futures as NBA analyst when the retire for how well they can predict playoff outcomes 😂😂
Suns had 4 max players in 2022 . Had 3 50 million per year players this year . But their best season came when they organically built their team with book,bridges,Ayton and added semi discount bin CP3.
LONG LIVE WEED
KD sold his soul for those two Warriors titles.
And the rest of his career is cursed.
And the thing is Boston in 07-12 and Miami in 10-14 had deep rosters and really good chemistry.
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You also forgot they hit the second apron for the luxury tax, they legit have almost nothing theu can do.
If they plan on keeping Booker and Durant then the best move they can make this off season is re-signing O'Neale. Then it's doing their best to see who is willing to sign vet mins for the last couple of spots.
turns out building a team off 3 guys and a bunch of nobody's is not how you make a good team
I called this shit out when u were making season predictions. How TF did u believe in this team? This is the most 2k logic team in the NBA.
I love y'all Synthetic Sports, but pls NEVER cook again 😂
They screwed til 2031. No 1st round picks til 2030. No 2nd til 31 it's on book til he leave
This loss vs the t wolves felt worse than the Mavs loss, I felt so empty last night
Trading for Beal instead of getting depth around Book and KD made no sense
I'm been waiting for this video
Superteams have only ever worked in the context of having a GOAT distributor (i.e. James, Rondo), a deep bench, and playing hellified team defense.
This team was destined for failure from the moment they traded all those role players to get Bradley Beal....
The suns owner basically ruined their future they don’t have any first round picks in the next few years so either they run in back with the same roster or blow it up
Frank Vogel is and has always been a garbage offensive coach. He can succeed if you give him elite defensive talent and enough shooters to balance the fact that he plays 90s ball, but otherwise he has no chance of coaching a title contender. The early 2010s Pacers were a different era, and LeBron and Davis carried him in 2020. He can’t make adjustments to a different roster than his absolute ideal one.
The but, proceed with kyle lowry really got me 😂😂
Only the Ben Simmons contract is worse then Beals. Nobody is close to those 2.
Ah, Ben Simmons who's most significant achievement is getting rookie of the year in his second season. Though Beal's contract is worse since there is 3 years left on it plus it has a no trade clause.
Patiently waiting on that Memphis Grizzlies revenge tour video 🥹
Best part of the video is saying but...then having a pic of Lowry 😂
Ant doing the DX chop was wildd tho lol
Kd trade was great, they got their superstar duo of Booker and KD. Beal trade was brain dead, lost all their depth and cap space for the worst contract in the league
I think the entire league should look at this Suns team as the final piece of proof that the formula of “sign 2-3 big names & rely on them to carry the whole weight of the team” does NOT work against a complete & solid team.
Sure MIN has big names like Kat & Ant; but they didn’t sign them at their peak, they were developed to where they are today; that plus the team chemistry & Ant’s natural leadership helped them absolutely embarrass a team that some folks claimed were gonna win it all easy after a few signings & trades!
I've been a Suns fan for 3 decades and sooo tired of ALMOST! Some franchises are snake-bitten and some constantly make poor decisions. In the Suns case, they are subject to both. It will be shocking, if my beloved Suns make the playoffs in the next 5 years.
I said this back during the off-season following the Beal trade and FA signings. They did not have anywhere close to a team that would win in the post season. They had no true depth and no true facilitator
I said it before the season, the Suns are braindead for trading away DeAndre Ayton. That had an all star caliber center with a high ceiling that could score, play defense and rebound, and they traded him for a bunch of worthless garbage. Then Beal was doing great when Booked was injured, and Booker came back and destroyed their chemistry with his constant ballhogging. There hasn’t been a player more willing to keep jacking up bricks as his team loses since Kobe until Devin Booker came around.
id love a video going over what happened to the lakers since the 2020 championship, now they’ve been eliminated
Just lost their hockey Team And now the Sun's do this to To them I honestly feel kind of bad Well about the hockey part The suns are just hilarious
200 million dollars worth of payroll to get bounced in the first round.
As a lifelong nets fan, am I now in the position that everyone else was in when the nets acquired, Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett from the Celtics?
I didn’t watch much of this series. But it seemed like every time I seen the score the Wolves were up by double digits.
I definitely thought that that series would go to 6 or 7, and that pheonix could even win the series. Im with you guys that i thought they matched up well. Crazy
The thing people get wrong about super teams is yes they had the big three ... But the also had depth ... Remember the year the Celtics won they had Rajon Rando before the injuries and Kendrick Perkins.
Miami heat in the years they won had Chris Anderson,Ray Allen, Mike miller and Mario Chalmers.
Even the warriors had had depth in Livingston, Looney and Iguodala...So yes they had a big three but also had multiple role players in the rotation that weren't just veteran minimum contracts ... They still had the depth a team needs to win .. which is a key part of the equation most GMs seem to forget.
Straight up, I’m worried Kd will never win another right post golden state 😢. Seriously he isn’t getting any younger and if he doesn’t win a ring i don’t think he will be truly be credited for his championships or his career in general 😮.
as a suns fan i seen this coming completely. i’ve been looking forward to the off-season since before the playoffs started 😂
Getting fleeced by the Wizards is crazy ngl
Instead of Phoenix Suns, they should be renamed Phony Suns. Didn't even leave a sunburn in this series.
Phony Sons
Their main problem is they lack a true point guard to run the offense either they shouldn't have let CP3 go or have at least a Ricky Rubio type point guard to keep things in order
Even at the time the Beal trade made no sense. The series vs Denver showed that they had enough star power, they just needed a better supporting cast. Why would you jettison your future for a worse version of a player you already have? And that contract, good God almighty, talk about an albatross.
I don't know what they do going forward. This is one of the worst situations for a team I've ever seen.
Its always a good day if you know the Sons are at home, well tucked in
They put all their money into 3 good shooters who can’t run the offense or defend. Every possession looks like their plan is to hot potato the ball between Beal, Booker, and KD and hopefully they all just score enough points that it makes up for the team not being able to guard a street light or have any depth.
The Suns should’ve ran it back with CP3, Ayton, Cam & Mikal at least they had something going on
the fact that they threw all that away for KD & Beal is insane
12:02 Frank Vogel would have grounds for a wrongful termination suit if he got fired. Matt Ishbia gives him a top-heavy roster with little to no depth that does not Vogel's philosophy, told him to make to work, and fires him when they get exposed by a more well-constructed team? Frank better have a lawyer on speed dial.
Besides that, the KD trade was questionable enough, but the Beal trade did them in. The Suns' front office weren't gonna get much in return for CP3 no matter where they traded him to, but Beal should NOT have been the return. They also could've tried to fix things with Ayton before trading him, too. Hell, they could've kept Bridges and Cam Johnson and given them bigger roles on the team, thus keeping their depth and their assets. Matt Ishbia has screwed this team over for the foreseeable future. There is nothing wrong with making aggressive moves, but to make them without THINKING is even worse.
The problem with kd led teams are that 1) they are built like a 12 year old on 2k (multiple iso heavy scoring guys) and 2) they always make drastic moves as soon as things don’t go their way, not giving time for them to gel
I could not stop shaking my head during this video 😒
I knew it was coming, and I’m not surprised
KD owes his entire legacy and career success to Steph and the Warriors.
My favorite thing about this year's Suns team is that it'll remind people the importance of having a reliable point guard on the court. I think people have forgotten why the role of a PG is so necessary to stabilize the offense and let your other stars work more off-ball to get to their spots. Both Beal and Book are at their most valuable when they don't need to have a lot of possesions where they're stuck bringing the ball up and setting the floor for everyone else. Not saying that this team would have done better if they stuck with CP3 over Beal, their fate was sealed when they gave up any kind of depth for KD, but not having a Rubio or Conley like "chill out the offense" PG with the starters was never gonna work.
I feel like the Nets might well have worked and honestly apart from Denver I would have a healthy Clippers as championship favs alongside Boston. They are 2:2 with the Mavs without Kawhi who were tipped by most pundits to be the second best team out West going into the playoffs. Superteams can work, the stars just need to complement each other, play at least some defence (since you can’t make up for three defensive liabilities easily) and you still need good role players.
The suns got caught in the perfect storm of basketball misfortune. Everything with sarver, the 2022 loss to the mavs, Ayton’s work ethic, new ownership inexperience. It feels like there only way out is blow it up, but they ain’t gonna do that until at least next TD or in the 2025 off season.