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Ok, hear me out, with my silvers pick I’ve now gotten 5 intro games in a row right, I told my wife she was unimpressed, I told my mom she was confused, and I subscribed before I knew it was the punishment for losing... can I get a pin to make me feel like I accomplished something?
I got my hopes high and u get pinned, life is unfair
Smart man
I got 3 right in a row hopefuly ill get more
You have to keep unsubcribing and subscribing everytime you win a game
Thx I cheated
Roger ate Chopper’s Hito Hito no mi because he’s twice the man of everyone else in the series.
O mean thats probably how he got the voice of all things he was enlightened because that's what happens when a human eats the Hiro Hiro no mi
@@taraharish2597 nah its a legend
ahem ahem...
shirohige
@@taraharish2597 nah that’s disproven
hey he may be right he's on to something
Roger is a jacket that ate the human human fruit model pirate.
You misspelled mustache.
I see what you did there
Rofl
Makes sense based on how much of a stereotypical pirate he looks like
Yes
Wouldn't Rayleigh have had a bigger reaction upon seeing Luffy use the Gomu gomu fruit if it had originally belonged to his former captain?
true
But maybe he trained him because one of the reasons was because he had the Gomu gomu fruit?
@@opika264 nah he would have said something about it
@@doms5755 Like what? Oh Roger also had your devil fruit? That would change so many things so no
@@opika264 not specifically to luffy. But he could have definitely alluded to it towards the viewers. Plus garp or anyone around that era would have also said something about it…. Come on now
There's currently no evidence of it, but if he had one, I hope it's another fruit that is seemingly useless but has some narrative purpose, like the ability to see the color of someone's heart, or the ability to smell a good joke.
E
I really hope he doesn't have one, it just brings so much Chad energy with him by not having one.
would be comedy gold if his devil fruit power was the ability to swim
I was gonna ask why you aren’t verified and then I remember what you draw Lol
@@virn333 Just have no expectations of him having one or not, so that you aren't disappointed. That's what I'm doing lol
I would love if he had a joke fruit, so bad that the world at large was unaware that he was an ability user.
Yep, the logua of ocean. If he ever used it, he'd depower himself and revert to normal instantly
I subscribe to this theory as well.
Headcanon accepted
the compass-compass fruit. He always knows where north is.
he had the human-human-fruit Model human but he played it off that he had a really good fruit.
I'm actually glad you brought up Buggy and Shanks. From Oden's flashback, we know they fought the Whitebeard Pirates before Buggy ate the fruit, but they were like both "Devil fruits, what are those?" As apposed to, "Devil fruits, those things that let Marco and Jozu TURN INTO A PHOENIX AND DIAMOND MAN!!"
back then they assumed it was some kind of magic, they had no idea it was the FRUIT that was responsible for it
@@MemeMaster-gz7nk tbh I think that it just wasn’t yet planned for shanks n buggy to have been on Rogers ship. There’s simply no way the crew wouldn’t have known what devil fruits were. This (the flashback between the two) occurred at the very beginning of one piece. It isn’t at all implausible that I’m correct regarding this matter because the flashback occurred in 1997, I believe.
This is a very interesting comment by the crew. What if devil fruits were actually not common at the time! What if the void century revolved about collecting all the fruits as the world government saw them as evil. And Rodger made it to the island where they were stored and allowed them to flourish again?
@@gavinduffell3676 Interesting theory, still doesn't explain why no on the crew recognized weird powers. Whitebeard had fought with the crew by this time, and they do talk before and after a lot of fights. You'd think "How do you make earthquakes and why is that one kid a bird?" would come up? Also, Linlin got her fruit when she was 6, at least 12 years before the Rocks Crew. Rodger wasn't a pirate then.
@@gavinduffell3676 imo oda just hadn’t planned that at the time (that shanks was on roger’s ship). If he had only been on some random pirates’ ship, it is likely that they wouldn’t have known. Remember, this part of the story occurred in 1997. It is now 2021. The story then was only in its early stages.
Imagine Monkey D. Dragon as a young lad, a nice packed lunch in his pocket - y'know, the usual stuff, some bread, some cheese, some fruit - watching the Pirate King's execution, as you do. And then, some time later, he sits down somewhere to have a snack, and notices that the apple he had in his pocket suddenly looks a lot different than it did before.
Bam, storm powers.
I never considered the idea of Dragon inheriting his Devil Fruit from Roger before, but if he did, I hope it's something silly like this. 😆
Feels like something Oda would do.
I love it
Sounds legit and I love it
Or it could be that dragon already had a plan to get rogers fruit as roger wanted dragon to get the fruit
This is genius
I hope Roger doesn’t have one.
Roger obviously had the cancer cancer no mi which he got from his good friend itachi
bruh I laughed out loud reading this - its 3 in the morning and my walls are super thin
Lol
@Wilian Santiago is a symptom of a larger disease not an actual disease
When buggy ate devil fruit wasn't it aistake? Shanks bumped him and he swallowed it by accident
The reason why roger didn't escape is because he handed himself to the navy because he was gonna die anyway. That gave the world a big shock which caused a lot of attention. But the primary reason is because he wanted to influence young generation of pirates and start a new pirate era like when whitebeard died. Whether he inherited a devil fruit would make not difference to his goal which was fulfilled when he got executed.
He ate the backstory-backstory fruit, making him only showed in backstories.
I mean... he’s dead so it’s kinda impossible to show him through anything else
@@shockbug8334 lol
Lol
Lol
Lol
Watching Kaido and Big Moo team up is like when the separated parents put their differences aside to attend the child’s birthday.
Lol Big Moo
Big Moo
Mohmoo and big moo
Kaimoo and big moo let’s go 🐮
Big moo 🐮
For all we know, Oda might still be toying the idea of whether or not to make Roger a fruit user.
Lmao he could change the story anytime
He doesn't
Roger’s fruit makes his moustache stays perfect forever
mustache mustache no mi for the Win
No no that something else ;) you will see soon
Nose hairs* but I think they changed it to a mustache.
Those were initially nose hairs tbh lol
Its a form of haki. Not sure if armament or conquerors though
Roger had the jacket-jacket fruit but was too ashamed to tell anyone
Or,,.. Or
Human-Human Fruit!!
ok
you ate a zoan
He just killed a strong dude and stole his body
Shang tsung from on mortal kombat. who agree😠 the soul fruit.
Roger being goofy as fuck made me love him even more. We already have "cool" edgy characters like Katakuri, Trafalgar Law, Kid. The same in other series (Itachi, Sasuke, Madara). One Piece always was, and still is, a series full of colorful and goofy characters and I love it for it. Roger wasn't what I expected him to be, and I am completely fine with that. I am loving Oden's flashbacks.
It really amazes me how one piece can be such a "colorful and goofy" series and then simultaneously have a man getting BOILED ALIVE and POLITICAL STRIFE in the same series. It really is a magical piece of fiction lol
@@bighex5340 You are right, Oda somehow manages to deal with both heavy topics and have Brook asking for panties in the same manga. The man is a genius
My believe: Roger ate the Jacket Jacket fruit and on God Valley Garp wore him so they were one overpowered fighter
Best theory hands down
this is genius 😭
There's actually a devil fruit for that in the dressrosa😂 maybe the fruit got reincarnated like ace*s own😭
Ace's*
This would be OD!!!😭😭
I just can't see Roger with the Gomu Gomu no Mi or with a logia fruit. I think It would be quite interesting if Roger had a badass mythical zoan. Human Human Fruit Model: Devil would be cool and symbolic.
Human Human model Pirate King
That would be a weather weather fruit. Now dragon holds it
If a human ate the human human fruit would they turn into a giant human because chopper ate it and he turns into a giant reindeer
@@darkwarlord99203 awakened version
How would it be symbolic?
It’s possible he had the darkness logia that Blackbeard uses. Which could explain why Blackbeard was so hellbent on getting the fruit after finding it. Or not idk.
I thought about this too.. Makes sense... Also I do think Garp maybe luffys maternal grandfather and that dragon is Infact the son of rocks d xebec and that xebec had 2 sons the younger being dragon and the older being blackbeard. Xebec was super powerful and was conspired against by the gorosei and both dragon and blackbeard want revenge.. But are going about it by opposing ideologies. Dragon trying to free the people from the world govts control. While blackbeard wants to destroy the gorosei and the world they hold so dear.
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Lah kok...
epic
Plot twist: He ate zoro zoro fruit. He got lost and found the laughtale.
Nice
Bruh moment
Zoro is the true pirate king confirmed haha
Imagine if zoro is the reason why luffy finds laughtale
Clever
5:25 I thought about Shanks wanting to keep it safe before the video and I remember he said he would sell it for a lot of money, in recent episodes, it shows how Roger's and Whitebeard's crew used to be, they were like the cliche pirates that just wanted loot, Shanks was in one of these crews meaning that objects and riches are important to him so if his old Captains devil fruit was in his hands he wouldn't sell it.
Roger had the human-human fruit but didn’t tell the crew because it did nothing and he was embarrassed.
Oda said if a human ate the human human fruit that said person would be enlightened or something like that
@@MrPoot-ce8mn was stating a fact??? Go be annoying somewhere else bud
@@ryangieselman9798 It was joke as I remember
@@MrPoot-ce8mn what is wrong with you? it means they become super smart and strong
2x normal power
idl why ur being such a dick to the other guy
@@MrPoot-ce8mn nigga it's anime
Have you not seen anime tropes when they get enlightened they turn into a fucking supersaiyan
Plot twist: Roger was actually weak, he ate the lucky lucky fruit and became the luckiest person in the world.
Edit: Thank you all for the likes, did not expected that :)
P.s. It's a joke guysss
Don't think that disease was too lucky
Good one ! But no.
If he ate the luck luck fruit then why did he die to swords if his lucky huh
Steel Ball Run you said
@@frxsted9708 I don't know, he awekened his fruit and managed to control luck... maybe...(?)
The weather-based fruit was the theory I always subscribed to. The Dragon connection, him being at Loguetown and Luffy being miraculously saved by lightning before being executed, makes it seem pretty likely to me. Also, Dragon is in that sweet spot of a character important enough to inherit such a narratively-significant fruit, but not so important like Luffy or Ace that it seems contrived or doesn't make sense in-universe.
I would laugh so hard if he had a fruit power but it was just something really strange like a cool-cool fruit that just made everyone remember you being cooler than you were in the moment
Lmao im dead
Dragon having Roger's fruit could help explain why he's the most wanted man In the world.
Roger's power in the hands of Garp's son who declares he wants to bring down the world government would definitely deserve the most wanted man title
YES. And I love the idea that when Roger "turned himself in," he actually turned himself in to DRAGON but when he was a marine. Then maybe Roger told him the history of D., he could've said something like "Hello there, Monkey Deren Dragon" (whatever the D. stands for). Dragon was confused, but Roger just smiles. - And then maybe Dragon got Roger's fruit somehow afterwards.
(Either way, I'm pretty sure Dragon was a marine because it would make sense that Garp successfully led his first son down the marine path before failing to do so with Ace/Luffy.)
Or maybe directly opposing the WG and actively overthrowing kingdoms and governments would warrant his title. He really don’t need Rogers fruit. He’s the only leader of a group who actively is anti government.
Isn´t it because he literally is waging war against the status quo?
Or maybe being the leader of the Revolutionaries explains his being wanted...
Dragon and Roger are unrelated. They became powerful under their own respective terms in their own respective journey's.
In him being very similar to Luffy, it would be nice that he had a different ability that was also seemingly useless that Roger found a wide variety of uses for. Granted that wouldn't have enough impact as Luffy since we spend no time with him to see it grow, but it would be funny to have tales told of him like "yeah he could turn into milk and he took out an entire armada doing it."
A devil fruit smoothie would definitely be interesting.
It would also be deadly
Srry to say but the blender would be a df user 😅
@@gameing_witht1171 Really wanted a devil fruit smoothie :(
@@Creamazing21 Same 😘
@@Creamazing21 ...
Roger had the fruit to clone himself. That clone was executed at loguetown. He's currently at laughtale waiting for the next pirate king.
damn
I like this idea
As much as i believe roger has long been deceased, i cant help but imagine and visualise this chapter way beyond in the future with luffy in a dark cave and you see speech bubbles saying ''So you finally made it..'' And then the final panel is this incredibly shaded, raggedy, old roger in a sitting position with his big devilish smile.. TO BE CONTINUED
Damm i love this idea 😂😂😂
Well he said it to Rayleigh....i am not going to die partner 😂😂😂
@@RikXtreme4 Wow I would would have the same smile
Well it's confirmed that Roger doesn't have a devil fruit
This video came out before then
@@alexandergordon648 this guy be dumn
Roger gave himself up to the Marines. The cuffs were purely for show for the audience.
I was thinking the same thing
No this is fact he would almost certainly know how to break the cuffs as luffy trained for a week and could do it
@@thatnewworldkid939 Exactly. To keep up the lie they put Roger in cuffs.
Roger would easily break wooden cuffs.
the wavynic Rayleigh did mentioned that Roger let himself to be captured because of the uncurable disease he had. Roger probably did came to the Navy so that he can have a pleasant death like a Man instead of dying from disease.
*Gold* Roger and *Silvers* Rayleigh
_I can't believe I only realise that now._
Also sCOPPER Gaban
uh, actually, (pushes up glasses) His name was Gol d. roger, they just called him gold roger, you non fan
@@Haikami diamond is not better than gold actually, we got brainwashed by world to believe diamond has more value than gold. But the truth is only Gold and silver can use in monetary system. Also gold in in its own element, not a compound.
@@hafizibnyusri8421 .....so us diamond. A diamond is just compressed carbon. Which is the sixth element
@@hafizibnyusri8421 Diamonds wouldn't be a terrible thing to base s monetary system on (if they weren't artificially scarce), better than some systems in history. They're durable, difficult to counterfeit, reasonably scarce, really the only problem is the varying quality inherent in natural gemstones and their processing. Heck, the last part isn't even true, clear diamonds are the most stable form of elemental carbon AFAIK.
There are no words that can describe the amount of satisfaction I feel when I arbitrarily guess correctly in these subscription games.
I like to think gomo gomo no mi was once the fruit of Captain Rock. Garp getting more mad at Shanks not just cause he inspired Luffy to be a pirate, but also gave the power of his worst enemy. Plus not a lot of people would know about the previous fruit user due to the gag order on anything to do with the Rocks pirates.
I liked that Roger was a previous owner of the straw hat. I hope he wasn’t a rubber man though.
yes
What about Bane-bane no mi
@@gatesofdoom Bane means spring
@@gatesofdoom wasn't Portgas D. Rouge (Ace's mom) the previous user of the gum-gum fruit? The reason of fact that gives me that idea is because she had kept ace in stomach for 2 years or so. Which is unnatural. Besides, I thought that Shanks stole the gum-gum fruit because it belonged to his older sister (Portgas D. Rouge) so it would make since.
@@bluehernandez3594 Uhm. Thats just a theory. Not confirmed.
How about the Luck Luck Fruit? I mean it kinda connects to the "loved by fate" thingy he has going on, like Luffy, but you have to admit that the sheer magnitude of his luck was beyond any "plot armor" Luffy has. Also I think it kinda fits Roger to have a Devil Fruit that would protect his crewmates.
We reached 400k, so many ppl lost to those games
I actually joined the Crew on my own to later start a mutiny (psst, don't tell the Cap'n)
@@Monoochrom lol
Roger was a devil fruit which ate a devil fruit
Nani?!
Actually this would explain Blackbeard xD
Nani yoo!? !? !
@@Broockle a devil fruit which ate a devil fruit which ate a devil fruit , For blackbeard xD
Wouldnt it be cool if Roger had a luck-based fruit that is similar to one punch man's King character where the reality around him literally bends in his favor. Reason why Roger could have made it as a King of all Pirates. Interesting to think of Luck as a paramecia power that grants you positive results for your survival making you win all outcomes in a mysterious random way.
if thats a power im sure luffy has it
That’s such a cool idea bro
He got diseased 😂😂😂
That's no luck man!
@@godzoro2320 he became the pirate king and started a great pirate age and found Raftel and successful men will always die young.
@@sirwaddlesdeethird7186 the fact That He Didn't Achieved What He Desired even at the end ....noone Knows the mystery and the fact if You are really into something whole Universe conspires to help you! He never wanted to become pirate king The first place ; but he was happy 😭
Surprised so little was talked about Roger having Dragon's Air/Wind DF, I thought that was one of the leading theories, which also would add up to why Dragon has the highest bounty in the story apart from leading the Revolutionaries. Regarding an aspect I really think you missed out on, is on Roger's Jolly Roger. The Jolly Roger typically tends to be about the captain (the Straw Hat, Shanks' scar, WB's moustache, BM's hair etc). Roger's Jolly Roger has a beard that seems to be made out of clouds or air waves, so that is another strong indication that whatever those white clouds are is somehow linked to Roger himself (Wind, Air, Weather DF etc).
Not really you reaching with that mustache thing seeing as Luffy doesn’t have his df on there hell I don’t know any ship that tells you their df. Dragon has no shown relation to Rogers your reaching. We’ve seen the sky fucking split because 2 yonkos clashed yet you don’t think a powerful being that’s not suppressing their power would cause thunder or a weather change of any kind.
Good one
Imagine if there was a Haki Haki fruit and that’s the one roger ate
too much thinking for someone like me, I'm just gonna say he didn't have one.
Rogers' fruit is a hair hair fruit that lets him grow his nose hair that's why his "moustache" is so amazing.
Yes
Yes! If he has a fruit i can 100% see it being something super low key and not an OP combat fruit
It would be cool to see Roger having a shitty devil fruit power, but just through sheer normal power he became the pirate king.
I absolutely agree, BUT did ya'll vote for our boy woop slap?!
How were u defeated?
U still are at the top
For 21days straight
@@ayzzart899 now I am
@@yoru7239 at least try finding my comment ;)
What if one piece ends with Nami closing her log book and saying “ that’s the story of how luffy became king of the pirates”
Or brook telling future pirates about the story of the greatest pirate king
@@kendrickhills3781 hell yeah
And then you see a bunch of orange-haired half-human half-deer kids running around, implying that Chopper was her true love after all!
@@thenonexistinghero what if chew was her true love after all and they have fish man children that look like luffys drawing
@@thenonexistinghero yeah no
Didn’t big mom talk about that he had a annoying fruit in the big mom arc? Cuz if i remember correctly she said «and his annoying fruit» after they talked about him getting big moms poneglyph
I think she said "and his annoying ability the voice of all" can't remember the name of it but I think that was it
I don’t think anyone on the Roger Pirates had a DF until Buggy.
Buggy was the only one. Even then, he ate it by accident.
@@christhefiend maybe bcoz devil fruits are a burden for them hmm..
@@ayzzart899 Maybe but I think they all just preferred to be able to swim, just in case. Plus swimming is nice, even for leasure or relaxing. Nami will be relaxing in the water & Luffy will be jealous because he can’t. Being able to swim would definitely be helpful in OP so a whole crew being able to is really smart.
And Buggy was the only one struck by the disease preventing him from going to Laugh Tale.
Coincidence?
Bullet have
Have we ever seen Roger swim? Until he is shown swimming without drowning on the same level as Rayleigh, Zoro or Sanji, the possibility is out there.
Maybe so, but if he had a DF power wouldn’t he use it when he clashed with WB. Or at least there would be more hints in Oden flashback
@@unknownvariable9239 whitebeard didn't even use his devil-fruit in the flashback (I've not seen the anime, but in the Manga he doesn't) so I don't think that's necessarily a valid reason to assume Roger didn't have one.
But Shanks says the true pirate should be able to swim
@@maximillionpegasus5160 still doesn’t make sense for Roger to have a DF, somebody would’ve mentioned it by now
We hardly see roger period, your point 🙃
What if he had the yami yami no mi powers? That’s why Blackbeard sought after that specific fruit.
He says he sought it out cuz it's the most evil and dangerous he says this when ace shows up to fight him he studied in books so be would know to look for it cuz he wanted the power to basically nullify ppl like ace
I think Rocks D. Xebec was the original owner of Blackbeard's devil fruit.
i've lost every mini game he has done, this deserves to be pinned
i was on a losing streak but I won this one. Yay ;D
Well done on the win!
@@Broockle Same
i haven't lose yet but i subscribed anyways.
I love how everyone ins underestimating devil fruit users by saying stronger people don't need devil fruits, when since day one, the future pirate king and eventual strongest character in the series, Bugg--- Luffy had a fruit. Roger or Shanks having a fruit wouldn't make them less special since Luffy has one
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Roger had Choppers Fruit. Satisfies both camps. He has a fruit, but it does nothing. Also answers the age old question of what would happen if a human ate it, and give Chopper some cool factor points.
Lmao is this tru?
I want roger to have a non-combat type fruit like: Truth-Truth fruit where he can tell if people are telling the truth or the Compass Compass Fruit where he is natural compass and always knows what direction to go for what he desires or something passive along those lines.
Silicone-Silicone fruit or something funny
To me those two examples would feel redundant since he already possesses that "Voice of All Things " ability. I think that ability in general will play much bigger part than we currently expect and probably explains a lot of Roger's feats. But I also prefer something non-combat oriented to something more tangible and flashy. I'm pretty sure it's at the very least nothing we've seen so far because no matter the ability is, everyone would always know it. Since WG couldn't even level 6 Roger as he was simply too widely known, they would have made sure that every single person in the world knows what Roger's ability is and that anyone who dares to obtain it is gonna be Buster Called at the moment they're discovered.
Wait, so roger would be jack sparrow?
jar jar fruit, model dirt. where he can only make jars of dirt.
He had the "I'm gonna die in a year no mi" devil fruit
Who’s here after the anime’s Devine departure.
Who’s asking
@@me5o164 🤡
its gold, silver bronze.
sigh
Me lol, the move that throwed oden for several KM
Clearly you haven’t considered the absolutely 100% true fact that Roger ate the mustache-mustache fruit (or possibly nose-hair nose-hair fruit).
I actually made a video on this a bit back (it’s still up on my channel) and I will stand by this theory until my dying day.
I would love to! And not just by imagining roger throwing mustaches at sengoku covered in haki
Hha so it can control his mustache like a logia
Imagine if he awakened it, all the raw power of mustache and nose-hair at his control. No wonder he became pirate king!
Since we know that roger was sick it could be from having luffy’s fruit and using something like 2-4 gear too much so he stopped using his fruit to prevent getting more sick
I think the gears might be unique to luffy I don't the previous users used it as luffy did
i could have sworne that big mom said something about rogers devil friut in the cake island arch about roger being able to talk to inanimate objects explaning why he was able to understand the poneglyphs so welll
That’s his ability to hear all voices-it ain’t a devil fruit. I think he just had really strong haki.
That's the voice of all things which im sure is haki related
"One piece is not a democracy, it's a one man manga dictatorship."
I hadn't thought of it that way, but i don't have any counter-arguments. GLR is right, as always
It is the "one man one vote"-system. Oda is that man and he has the vote.
Easy man. Hes right. We do but dont matter. Oda writes it, we react. Simple as that.
Well yes but he doesn't have absolute control becuz money ;-;
@@ThatControlUser he does it's his story
@@kraiaikrai8962 no, he doesn't have absolute control. For example, he can't kill off any of the main crew due to the sheer amount of money their merch brings in.
Personally I still think Roger was a rubber man.
For more then 1 reason.
1. Why was shanks so deep in the east blue? What was he looking for? Why was he saving the rubber fruit? Did it have sentimental value to him the way flame flame fruit had to luffy?
Fruits only return to existence once the previous user dies, with exception to black beards( which that is still no let fully explained.
2. Rogers sword, yes Roger has a sword but if you notice he did not always have one. The Pirate King we know today is not the pirate king of the past .When they speak of the pirate king we think of the dude at the intro, or the guy raising his sword in defiance, but for a long time he was actually just wearing a straw hat and only became the pirate king after his 3rd and final journey, and was only the pirate king a short while before death after the journey was complete... in wano, I thought it was interesting that luffy took interest in having a sword since he was in samurai country.. what would happen if luffy found Rogers sword? Would it be far fetched to see luffy take up a sword as the previous king did at some point?
By the time Roger was carrying a sword he also was no longer wearing the straw hat and had passed it on. When luffy’s time comes to give up the straw hat, what changes will have?
3.Roger was dieing of an unknown sickness that could not be cured and he was running out of time. The story has never gone into what this sickness was... However luffy has been warned that entering gear 2 can shorten his life span. He made is clear he could care less... with luffy pushing himself is he going down the same path?
Did Roger start using a sword to adopt a new fighting style to avoid ruining his body further if it was unnecessary? Notice Roger is using the same armour haki luffy is now learning to bring down Kiado. Did Roger learn that before picking up a sword or after? The best swords man turn their swords into permanent black swords , which was not Rogers case therefore he was not a “master” swords man like hawk eye. His power came from elsewhere
4. Destroying Shiki... if he isn’t a rubber man he must have some devilfruit power. The flame flame fruit can also explain this.
I think we will learn more as we learn about joy boy
True if Roger was a rubber man harp would have mentioned it. Or would he? He wanted Luffy to be a Navy man...
I actually loved the reveal that Roger used to wear that hat and then evolved and passed it onto what he believed was the next generation. I would think it would be kool if Roger was a rubber man. Same was I thought it was awesome when SS I got it. But him and Ace sharing the same fruit would also be awesome and explain a lot. I like that corny crap lol
The other fruit I think he might have is the dark dark fruit... how else would Teech know about the dark dark fruit was out there...
Love hearing your thoughts though.
I could imagine that if Roger had an devil fruit, that he had an really subtle one, like the Kobu Kobu no Mi. That would also fit to his execution, where he started the pirate age. His words could be boosted thanks to the Kobu Kobu no Mi.
Totally agree !! Would explain also the strength of his crew against stronger opponent's .
I dont know, i just have the feeling that storm was cause bei either Roger or Dragon.
I mean Dragon got that "Tatoo" after his execution, i truly think it has something to do with roger giving rayleigh a certain Devil Fruit to change the world and that fruit gave him this
In the past i thought because it had the same colors, it had something to do with the egg on rogers ship, well maybe there was a actual dragon in there that cause the storm, maybe roger had the fruit dragon now has, but he got those scales/tatoo on another part on his body, not in his face and Dragon did the same Blackbeard did to get rogers fruit
I mean considering roger handed himself in to the marines. Maybe it wasnt really necessary to put sea prism handcuffs on roger
they still would’ve put them on him if he had devil fruit powers
Guys, the Jacket Jacket fruit.
This is how Oda will explain the God Valley incident
If he'll actually do this it would be funny af
Conclusion: Dragon ate Roger's reincarnated devil fruit. Both control the weather and if the user doesn't manifest any action for using it, nobody can confirm that weather is controlled by them.
Weather is controlled by haki more than likely I think.
I agree
@@Tobirama_isHimju yeah Conqueror's Haki often manifests with a breeze or wind, so in theory a master could possibly conjure up a storm.
Advanced conqueror haki can effect objects, affecting weather could be possible
I think it's less that the idea of just "Gol D Roger was a strong dude and he don't need no Devil Fruit" and more the fact that as it stands, Roger's ship is the only one that we know of that doesn't have _any_ Devil Fruit Users and they're the ones who successfully made it to Laugh Tale.
Giving him a Devil Fruit would kind of set a precedent that your crew needs at least one Devil Fruit to make it in the New World, let alone reach the end which starts feeding into the idea of "No Normies Allowed".
The red hair pirates also have no confirmed devil fruit users
I read a theory somewhere that actually makes a lot of sense. I think Roger's wife ate the Gomu Gomu no mi because it was stated that she hid her baby bump from the marines when they went on a crazy rampage of finding and ending Roger's bloodline. This feat isn't humanly possible but it would be very much possible if she ate the fruit that gave her rubber like properties.
Ye it’s not humanly possible on our world but in anime not that big of a deal
Maybe she had the age controlling fruit that bonnie has right now.
Luffy's mom is most likely still alive. We probably wont see her because Oda already stated he doesnt think Moms add to the adventure.
@@TheShonsi oda said we’ve already seen her
@@jisunggoat960 Source? Becauce I can find the interview where he goes and talks about what she WOULD look like if she did ever appear. And the interview with Luffy's Japanese VA telling everyone what Oda told her about Luffy's mom but nothing on her actually appearing yet.
Imagine if Roger was the original gum-gum devil fruit user and shanks found that devil fruit and wanted to save it to have a memory of his former captain or maybe use it in a future
Maybe that’s possible
His wife is the user. That's how she keeped Ace in her belly for 3 years
@@dgetsuyo2861 No not possible. Roger was a master swordsmen who uses Haki. If he had devil fruit powers he would have used it against Whitebeard in Oden's flashback. Even the handcuffs that Roger's wore at his execution proves that he does not have devil fruit powers because the cuffs are wooden.
@@walnoemispoyt5604 oh thx mate
@@walnoemispoyt5604 not true cause he turned himself in
Sorry, I had to.
"Well, this didn't age well..."
it would be cool to see Roger with the Goro Goro no mi, maybe after his death the fruit reincarnated in the sky or something
Fun idea, but wouldn't the Devil Fruit just reincarnate into the fruit that's closest to where he died?
The sky is a long ways off.
@Boga Destroyer ok boys pack up we found the fruit
@@TimeturnerJ this is probably not always the case, since Mera Mera No Mi definetly did not manifest in Marineford after Ace died because otherwise there's no way Doflamingo has it later on
@@TimeturnerJ well it could just transport into a specific fruits not just any fruit like the axolotl maybe and can only transform into a apple
@@ariqsyafwan4987 I thought doflamingo said he found it on the battlefield of marineford after the war.
He ate the sub sub fruit which gave him the abilitiy to subscribe to the grandline review and get daily one piece content uploaded into his youtube feeds the ultimate devil fruit
I feel like he didn’t have a fruit which would explain why shanks doesn’t eat any of the ones he finds, because he wants to be like his captain
or because shanks realized roger got sick from the fruit, maybe roger's fruit nerfed him
he ate the sub sub fruit to get one piece content uploaded right into his inbox
Its obvious he ate the Manly-Manly fruit. Look at that moustache, look at the powah.
It even rivals mumbos
*nose hair
It is now confirmed Gold D Roger had no Devil Fruit
I think that the idea of a incredibly powerful pirate crew with nobody having a devil fruit is kinda more scary and intimidating than if he did have one.
Douglas Bullet have a devil fruit, ofcourse baagy also idk about others.
Well that's the Red Hair Pirates isn't it? Shanks and his crew, as stated in the manga itself, are probably the most well balanced crew because they're all super Haki users and no devil fruits.
You forget, Roger handed himself over to the Marines. He didnt want to escape.
Yeah but the marines didn't knew about that
@@Francisco-fw5fe Respectfully, it wouldn't have mattered much. Their sole purpose at the time was to capture Roger.
Marines wouldn't care if he didn't want to escape or not. They would just treat it like they did capture him and take the necessary measures to keep him restrained if he did want to escape.
That's literally the point he is making against people who say "If Roger was a devil fruit user they'd have used Seastone instead of wood".
I like the idea of Roger having a goofy gag fruit.
Plot twist: The Journey of Roger is just and illusion created by Chair Sama
That was lame
@@WishIWasACloud But funny
The one piece is actually just a diary of the history of each person in the world,and it will hold information for each person in history so no secrets
@@kimguir303 Why would Roger laugh seeing the History of each and every person?
So "one piece" thing was just a dream
*eventually everyone quitting piracy*
Roger's devil fruit would be: the moustache moustache fruit, he basically turned his long nose hair to be a moustache
Roger and Dragon both having some kind of weather fruit or like a wind logia has always been my favorite theory
Thing about Roger is he became pirate king without devil fruit that is why we like him
I’d much prefer both he and Shanks not having DFs for this exact reason.
7:43 the best pic of sea stone cuffs grand line could find
@GrandLineReview buggy and shank were part of the crew when roger reached laugh tale or “Raftel”. Roger reached loadstar 39 years ago and learned about the last island but he didn’t go and find it until 28 years ago when he got sick, after buggy and shanks joined the crew. It took him one year and it was his last journey to the grand line. They didn’t get to see raftel because just before they went to raftel buggy got sick and shanks stayed behind with buggy to take care of him.
Roger haki definitely had to be on dbz levels if he didn't have a devil fruit..Whitebeard was disgustingly powerful ...He had massive AOE & strength. How roger contended with that is something I gotta know.
I like to think that he never ate a devil fruit. It would add to his legend.
Roger's devil fruit is fully controlling clima. That's why a "sudden change of weather" saved him from Shiki. This means that Dragon ate his devil fruit since he was in Roger's execution and after that, luffy was saved from buggy by a "sudden change of weather"
Sounds like an Op fruit for an OP person, so I like it
He had no devil fruit its official
Imagine oda watching one piece youtubers just to get ideas
Just came here after the leak that Roger didn't eat an akuma no mi lmao
Roger turned himself in to the marines so I dont think he would have escaped thefore explain why he didn't wear the seasoned handcuffs, he simply didint want to escape
Yea,like even if he had a devil fruit he probably could've escaped any seastone cuffs it really didn't matter XD a personal theory of mine is that the marines were just trying to keep the illusion that garp caught roger by making it look like he was restrained
Roger probably ate the pin-pin fruit
I think one important thing is that Gol D Roger is the one that started the pirate rush in the first place.
So the world government may have been hording the fruits and not giving them out.... until they got over run by the new pirate age.
(With the sailors being so inexperienced with the fruits many of them died quickly and released them back in to the wild, so to say)
You said roger would flee out of the kairoseki, but he self wanted to get executed, i think even without chains he would sacrifice himself as he had no life left
1047 confirm roger never had DF. End!
Spoilers everywhere
I like to think that Roger did have a devil fruit but his crew didn’t know because he was so strong that he only used it in scenarios like God Valley or him vs white beard
Nah Roger is not a devil fruit user. As you say if he was a devil fruit he would have used it against Whitebeard and the fact is that Roger used a Haki imbued sword projectile move against Whitebeard in the Oden flashback. Roger is suppose to be an OP version of Shanks and so we can learn a lot about Roger fight style by examining Shanks fight style.
You also have to remember that Gol D Roger the man himself decided to surrender himself to the marines because he was dying and also to inspire the new age of pirates.
I was thinking that too.
Yeah and probably with the one piece maybe the one piece was to keep the pirate era going I don't think the one piece is a treasure though
@@cubicity personally i think its the journey to becoming the pirate king.
@@LEilrahc who's going to know if it's the one piece though
Or did he.. I don't know how exactly Brooks fruit works. If it resets after the 2nd life Is gained he could possibly have and he used his execution to cure his disease and start his life again