Watching that pitching rotation dominate the NL for over a decade was truly something special. Every game the Braves had an ACE out on the mound. It was so tough to beat them in a best of 5 or 7 series, I feel so lucky to have witnessed that first hand.
Maddux has to be the greatest pitcher of all-time. When you look at all the other most commonly listed greatest you see pitchers with great stuff who usually could throw harder. He was a magician out there. I'm not sure anyone has ever done more with less and to pitch as good as he did in his era is remarkable. We could come back in 100 years and I highly doubt a better defender at his position will have come along
I firmly believe Maddux's 94 and 95 seasons are top-3 since integration, and top-3 in the AL/NL since Walter Johnson. Yes, they were shortened, but he threw 202 and 209 innings -- and the only season I'd rank above these is Pedro Martinez's 2000 season where with no labor dispute he threw 217 innings. Maddux also had 25 and 28 starts, while Pedro had 29 -- across a full season! Which means Maddux was having to do all this on a whole lot less rest than pitchers nowadays are used to.
They certainly warrant consideration, as do some seasons for Marichal, Koufax, Martinez, and Gibson's '68. Also need to check a few others; e.g. Tom Seaver, Lincecum, Carlton, Ryan, Johnson, and Halladay.
The fact that Jamie Moyer was already a 4 year veteran in 1986 is wild to me. Dude's career started 4 years before Maddux's and ended 4 years AFTER Maddux's
Not gonna take away anything from Maddux, dude was one of the best ever, but he and Glavine were recipients of very generous wide strike zones, because they were so efficient at hitting it. Just watch that clip of him striking out McGwire, that ball was one to two balls outside the zone and Big Mac was like "WTF that was a strike?"
Wrigley Field not having lights shouldn't be hard to believe. The Friendly Confines lacked lights not because it was somehow 50 years behind the times, but by very deliberate choice. Like fans famously watching games from the rooftops across Waveland Avenue out beyond left field, and the field's ivy-covered outfield brick wall, Wrigley's status as the last Major League park without lights - hosting only afternoon games - was part of the lore of this stadium steeped in tradition, cherished by fans even outside Chicago.
I enjoy these kinds of videos, but there are always inaccuracies. The Braves actually played in the NL West in those days(93), and won their division on the last day of the season in an NL where competition was severely thinned by expansion(the Giants won 103 games and missed the postseason).
From 1997-2000 Pedro Martinez was 77-25 with a 2.10 ERA, 1153 strikeouts and 3 Cy Young Awards plus 1 runner up finish. He would have had 4 straight Cy Young is Clemens was not on steroids. In Maddox’s 4 straight Cy Young seasons he was 75-29 with a 2.21 ERA and 737 strikeouts. This is not to downplay Maddox’s seasons as it was a great run but Pedro’s 4 consecutive season exceeded Maddox’s in every regard.
I was a huge Pedro Martinez fan growing up, following the Expos. Pedro was one of my faves back then and still is. I would mimic the way he threw the ball, playing with my grandpa in our backyard. Good times. Seeing him play for another team afterwards was tough.
Who played in the most post season games during that time span, Maddux? Or Martinez? And btw, The Professor was a well known sinker/cut fastball pitcher, and therefore caused more ground outs than strike outs, and an out is an out.
The gold gloves are little over-rated, if you read how their voted on. Not to say that they don't signify excellence in fielding, it's just that the voting was a bit inexact.
Couldn’t pitch in today’s MLB with the in between innings’ checks of pitchers…was shitty in postseason cuz he followed the shine ballers’ oath of backing off in playoffs: definition of a “Jake”
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Watching that pitching rotation dominate the NL for over a decade was truly something special. Every game the Braves had an ACE out on the mound. It was so tough to beat them in a best of 5 or 7 series, I feel so lucky to have witnessed that first hand.
Maddux and that pitching staff was only thing that could stop the 95’ Indians
Indians wouldn't have won regardless 🤷♂️
Wdym ?? I’m a young fan and don’t know
Although how many series did the win?
His two seamer that comes back to the plate on lefties is a thing of beauty
unhittable, I can turn on stuff as a leftie but that back door is evil.
He made Mark Grace look straight up foolish at times and he was probably the best contact hitter of the 90's next to Tony Gwynn.
Maddux has to be the greatest pitcher of all-time. When you look at all the other most commonly listed greatest you see pitchers with great stuff who usually could throw harder. He was a magician out there. I'm not sure anyone has ever done more with less and to pitch as good as he did in his era is remarkable. We could come back in 100 years and I highly doubt a better defender at his position will have come along
I firmly believe Maddux's 94 and 95 seasons are top-3 since integration, and top-3 in the AL/NL since Walter Johnson. Yes, they were shortened, but he threw 202 and 209 innings -- and the only season I'd rank above these is Pedro Martinez's 2000 season where with no labor dispute he threw 217 innings. Maddux also had 25 and 28 starts, while Pedro had 29 -- across a full season! Which means Maddux was having to do all this on a whole lot less rest than pitchers nowadays are used to.
They certainly warrant consideration, as do some seasons for Marichal, Koufax, Martinez, and Gibson's '68. Also need to check a few others; e.g. Tom Seaver, Lincecum, Carlton, Ryan, Johnson, and Halladay.
a 1.63 ERA in 210 innings pitched is absolutely insane! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
The fact that Jamie Moyer was already a 4 year veteran in 1986 is wild to me. Dude's career started 4 years before Maddux's and ended 4 years AFTER Maddux's
Moyer was a rookie in 86. He was four years older than Maddux though
At 4:31 he says “his ERA never dropped below 3 again” when I think he meant to say it never rose above 3 again.
Yes
Not gonna take away anything from Maddux, dude was one of the best ever, but he and Glavine were recipients of very generous wide strike zones, because they were so efficient at hitting it. Just watch that clip of him striking out McGwire, that ball was one to two balls outside the zone and Big Mac was like "WTF that was a strike?"
The strike zone is wherever the home plate umpire decides it is, period.
How about his like 18 gold glove awards 😳
Wrigley Field not having lights shouldn't be hard to believe. The Friendly Confines lacked lights not because it was somehow 50 years behind the times, but by very deliberate choice.
Like fans famously watching games from the rooftops across Waveland Avenue out beyond left field, and the field's ivy-covered outfield brick wall, Wrigley's status as the last Major League park without lights - hosting only afternoon games - was part of the lore of this stadium steeped in tradition, cherished by fans even outside Chicago.
Still wish they played a few games a year like this and just let it get dark naturally.
I remember the first night game at Wrigley Field.
Leaving out “The Kid’s on-pace record-breaking season and probable MVP should’ve been acknowledged more than a bad Bud joke
Hill I'm willing to die on. Greg Maddux was the greatest pitcher of all time
Greg has a great claim but randy and Pedro do as well. Clemens, ryan, etc. But maddux is in the discussion no matter what
Pedro, Randy, seaver, Bob Gibson, Clayton Kershaw, and Sandy koufax all have claims to be the greatest pitcher as well.
Agreed
@mastermace7770 yes but Greg did it without overpowering stuff.
@@codygurnick6405but he had a ton of movement and the umps gave him a larger strike zone
HELL, CY YOUNG DOESN'T HAVE 4 CY YOUNG AWARDS!
BUT STEVE CARLTON DOES
The award didn’t exist then.
@@ron88303 It's a meme joke. Of course he couldn't win an award that was named after him posthumously.
The Awards in Sports are named after their careers are over and sometimes when they are DEAD!!
@@jimnfl7134 Oh yeah?
Never will forget Will Clark's poke in the 1989 playoffs.
What game and inning is shown at 13:43? I don't remember what happened to cause the ump to grab the batter
Great job.
Everybody at the end of this video: "Wait, what?" "Oh my."
OH YEA
I enjoy these kinds of videos, but there are always inaccuracies. The Braves actually played in the NL West in those days(93), and won their division on the last day of the season in an NL where competition was severely thinned by expansion(the Giants won 103 games and missed the postseason).
Yup there was no central division until 1998 so braves were in NL west until than
Maybe the best player in baseball over the course of the past 50 years.
Certainly in the discussion.
Greatness
Steve Avery Tom Glavine Greg Maddux shew talk about a rotation
From 1997-2000 Pedro Martinez was 77-25 with a 2.10 ERA, 1153 strikeouts and 3 Cy Young Awards plus 1 runner up finish. He would have had 4 straight Cy Young is Clemens was not on steroids. In Maddox’s 4 straight Cy Young seasons he was 75-29 with a 2.21 ERA and 737 strikeouts. This is not to downplay Maddox’s seasons as it was a great run but Pedro’s 4 consecutive season exceeded Maddox’s in every regard.
I was a huge Pedro Martinez fan growing up, following the Expos. Pedro was one of my faves back then and still is. I would mimic the way he threw the ball, playing with my grandpa in our backyard. Good times. Seeing him play for another team afterwards was tough.
Who played in the most post season games during that time span, Maddux? Or Martinez? And btw, The Professor was a well known sinker/cut fastball pitcher, and therefore caused more ground outs than strike outs, and an out is an out.
It would be killer if the Cubs still had all day games at home.
Dante Bichette's 1.2 WAR in his 30/30 season is hilarious
defense is a thing
@@madxD144defense is overrated, Jeter has 5 titles
@@pwx13Did Jeter win the titles single-handed? Or did others help?
Randy Johnson was 18-16 one of the years he won the Cy Young. Come on. That was ridiculous.
Wins is a very overrated stat for pitchers… someone can give up 2 runs and still lose a game despite pitching for 10 plus Ks a game
@@JayNowitzki Agreed.
Braves won the NL West in 1993. Not the east
Yes Braves was in the NL western conference along with Dodgers Giants Padres Astros before the expansion
Those gold gloves though
The gold gloves are little over-rated, if you read how their voted on. Not to say that they don't signify excellence in fielding, it's just that the voting was a bit inexact.
One WS win though.
He was a sergean
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Couldn’t pitch in today’s MLB with the in between innings’ checks of pitchers…was shitty in postseason cuz he followed the shine ballers’ oath of backing off in playoffs: definition of a “Jake”
Oh….@maddogvaselinesavedmycarreer 1:13
1 Randy Johnson
2 Pedro Martinez
3 Roger Clemens
4 Greg Maddux
5 Nolan Ryan
Best pitchers of my lifetime. Scherzer and Verlander close
You must have missed Carlton.
Edgar Martinez
He was a DH and thrid baseman.
As... as... as... as... as
No Tommy John surgery?
4:32.....it never dropped below 3.0 again. Um, you meant rose above, right? Words matter. Checking what you say matters. Editing matters.