Guitar Shop Innovations - Mobile Bandsaw Base
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2013
- Just sharing something i made to make working in my Guitar Shop even easier! An inexpensive method to move around my bandsaw!
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I like the simplicity of the lock out latch, works on gravity, no springs, no fancy gadgets. Well done!
Yes, it's a well designed mobile base. But what's far more significant to me is seeing great parenting. Those kids are clearly being raised in a happy, supportive and loving home. The world needs more parents like this. 👍
Hello stphnalln,
Thank you for your kind words. These kids have been a blessing.
@AlcalaGuitars Do you have plans for this mobile base? I have the exact bandsaw and would luv to see a more detailed video on how you built it. Thx!
Wow. This is probably one of the simplest and most elegant mobile bases for small machines I have seen. Thanks!
I built one that is almost exactly like this. The "box" around the outside is four pieces, joined with box joints and is very strong. Thanks for the inspiration on this thing, it was easier than I thought it would be, and your attitude really helped me. That bandsaw hasn't moved since my brother helped me lug it in there about 7 years ago. It's so nice to get some much wanted shop space back - I didn't know what I was missing, wow. Now I'm working on one for the table saw and work bench.
Watched many mobile base designs. This is still one of the most simplest and best designs posted 8 years ago. Thank you very much. Love your loving family.
This is the best mobile base I have seen for band saw or similar tools so far!!!
Among the best designs I have seen. Very clean and low profile for having used 2x4 lumber. The whole mechanism is on the inner side of the tool's steel base and has clearance beneath for your feet. Fantastic! I really like it, and especially your talented models who showcased with much enthusiasm!
Aw man... I have this EXACT same bandsaw and have been searching for days now for a good mobile base solution! Wonderful video, beautiful woodwork, and your guest stars were a great addition!!!
This is the cleanest, best designed base I've seen. Nice job! While I could probably visually deconstruct it, it would be great to see how you built it!
This is one of the best designs I have seen. I will be following this design for my drill press. Thank you for sharing.
Mr. Alcala,
Of all the DIY mobile base videos I've viewed this seems the most simple yet effective. I like that all the parts are within the perimeter of the base. This will be a big help in my workshop. Thank You Sir for sharing this.
Best Regards,
George
I love this design for its simplicity, the ease of use and because it doesn't increase the machine's footprint. I wish I'd seen this before building a base for my saw! ;-)
This is an excellent design. Thanks so much for posting. I'm going to build this for my Craftsman table saw of the same line.
great video, thanks for sharing,one of the best designs ive seen so far ,
Nice! I'm going to use a modified version for my table saw! Good to see a MAN being a good dad. Not many of us around these days. Great Job with the kids. They love their dad. Pass on what you have learned. Save a generation it will. Yoda.
Hello William Green,
Thanks for the kind words. These kids have been a blessing in my life.
Nice work and smooth operation. I like the auto lock feature.
I like your elegant solution, functionality appears to be exceptional. Enjoyed the music as well, very cool!
Outstanding design with nice finish,
Thanks for sharing mate,
Ingenious. Best design I've seen yet!!
Brilliant! Great video and entertaining too. Nice guitar playing as well. I've got a 12in Craftsman bandsaw in my brand new guitar shop that is in need of a mobile base. I love this idea so that it stays on it's original pads.
rediryou Hello rediryou, I'm glad you like the design.
Good job. Nice kids. Nice to see people taking care of their kids. Keep them busy and they will keep you happy.
This brings me back. Back to a time when 2x4 lumber didn't look like corkscrewed tree bark. Look at those amazing pieces of wood on this build. So clean. So straight.
Hi Espressomatic. Finding straight 2 x 4s is almost impossible today. I spend a lot of time at Home Depot and Lowes looking for that one 2x4 that is not full of knots and bent.
Well done. Effective and simple to build.
Very nice! Small footprint, toe space, etc. Also liked the music.
Hah! Great concept. I am looking for ideas, and this is the simplest, most effective one yet. Thanks' . And you kids are quite the stars!
Really nice design. Simple and effective. Thanks
Great video! Great simple design. Awesome kids. Cool music. You rock!
Great design, great music and I enjoyed the children having fun also. Great video!
Beautiful design & beautiful Family! Have A Super Blessed Week!.....Gus (aka "TheWoodWerker" )
I made a mobile base by watching your video. And I would have to say it is a very good design. It lifts my Craftsman 10" table saw with no problem. I will use this design on all of my shop machines. Thanks for the video Robert.
Hi Jeff,
I'm glad you could use the design.
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing!
I tried to build a similar design and couldn't make it work. Your video, seen for the first time today, showed me what I missed seeing on the other video. Thanks!
what where you missing, about to make three of them, table saw, band saw and drill press.
That's the best system I've seen so far.
Very cool. Great video! Fun to watch.
Just put one on my band saw. Works great. Thanks.
Great design for an open base. I'm going to noodle around with this and see if I can adapt it for a heavier, closed base machine.
Good design! I like it! Thanks for posting. Nice guitar music too.
Subbed, about to make this for my New planer. Great job !!
excellent and you have good helpers too
This is the greatest mobile base I've seen! I've been looking into making one for my table saw and this is exactly what I was looking for. Great work!
If you could post plans for this it would be much appreciated. PS. nice tone.
RockNJeep Hi RockNJeep,
Sorry, I didn't draw up any plans for the mobile base. I do have some pictures I took while building it. Perhaps they will help. I'll post them as soon as I figure out a way to do it.
AlcalaGuitars
It would be nice to know the type of wood, have the shape of the latch, and information on some of the hardware. Where did you get the bolt with the eyelets that catches the latch? Lowe's? I can't tell from the videos if the cross pieces that attach to the frame are 2x4 or bigger. The last piece of information that would be helpful would be the angle of the wood the holds the cross 2x4's off of the wheel bases. This is an excellent, yet simple design and I would guess your guitars are equally well built and high quality. Thanks Robert for such a great post!
Barry Tipton Hi Barry,
All the wood used is 2 x 4 pine from Lowes. The latch catch (the bolt) is the non-threaded section of a 1/4 inch diameter by 5 inch long bolt. I cut the head and threaded section off and ended up with a little 3 inch bar. The bar is dropped into a groove that was routed on the 2 x 4. It is held at the ends with 1/4 inch bolts with washers. (this makes it look like a bolt with eyelets). All cuts, except for the groove are cut on the band saw. The cut angles were a bit tricky. There was some trial and error on scrap pieces of wood to get the angles just right. The shape of the latch was cut out of thick card stock paper. I played around with the shape until I figured out how it should work then I cut the real one.
Hope this helps.
I recently built a workbench and started looking on youtube for caster designs. Your design is awesome. Thanks for sharing it.
Ken L Hi Ken,Your welcome.
Cracking, simple idea - I hope you don't mind, I unashamedly copied your design for my Record Power (Yes its an English one, as I'm in the UK!)RSBS 14 (14 inch wheel) bandsaw - slight difference on the latching - just used a standard door bolt and metal plate. But it works perfectly. Thanks for the video!
Just built this lift and works great! Thanks for the great idea!
Hi Robert, I'm glad the video helped you.
I am looking to do the same thing with my Craftsman saw. Did you run into anything that might need to be passed on? Thanks...
Beautiful. Your design is clean and well executed. I love the kids too - makes the video more fun to watch. I've looked at dozens of videos on mobile bases and yours stands out, way out. You have fine craftsmanship and an enjoyable presentation. I have that exact band saw and intend to copy your design. I'm thinking that it can be accomplished without the side rails and I'll attempt that to see what happens. The saw is light enough that I don't think the steel legs will bend, but we shall see.
Hello Jack,
Thanks for the kind words. Let me know how your version comes out.
DAMBBBBB...BEEN LOOKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR MY BAND-SAW.....
I have the same band saw. I will use your idea and design. Thanks
Do you have plans for the lift?
Very good.
Nice work.
Great video.
Well done ! Now put some sheet tin where the timber rubs together for a much easier gliding action
excellent!
Wow! 3 years, and not a single comment on your collection of fantastic model airplanes. My son immediately noticed the Stringless Wonder, as he has one of the Peck Polymers kits for it on his workbench now.
Any chance we will see you in Geneseo at the FAC Nats this year?
Oh yeah, love the base. It is an elegant design, beautifully executed.
One of my dreams is to attend the Nats as a spectator. I can't travel due to my work. The Stringless Wonder was one of my favorites. I built several of them and wore them out flying them. Some of the airplanes on the wall are over 45 years old. I flew model airplanes year round since I was 12. I'm still building but not flying as much. Glad you liked the base.
Well, perhaps things will change next year for the Non-Nats then. We will be glazing a couple of Prairie Birds for Embryo tonight.
Sweet!
Very Good!.
Awesome
Thank you~ I finally found a design I want to use. You are great~ ;)
Hi Taehyung Cho,
I'm glad you like my design. Thanks for watching the video.
AlcalaGuitars do you have the plans to build the base?
Ingenious idea, good workmanship, and application. Thank you for sharing. I would like your advice on starting my own guitar shop. Are you playing one of your handmade guitars? It sounds great. I noticed the action was very low and your style is very similar to mine. Your video was a pleasure and you have great helpers. You are Blessed. Keep up the excellent work.
Hello E Caff,
The red guitar in the video is my favorite. I played it for around 15 years while playing with a couple of local bands. I got a lot of compliments on the tone.
I started making guitars for other people only after I learned how to make them from scratch. Looking back, it took me 5 years to acquire the skill and knowledge to make a neck that would rival any neck from Fender, Gibson, PRS I also made a lot of my own tools and fixtures. I'm always looking for ways to improve. My mantra is to make the next guitar better than the last one I made. Hope this helps.
Really like this design! Any chance you can make a template?
Beautiful design and beautiful family! Like you, I have been pulling together from various designs, such as Carl Holmgren and his wisdom. Just wish I know what strange ax is inside that huge rectangular case--my guess, a bouzouki on steroids?
Hello embwee.
The case is for a V type guitar that had a really bent neck, about an inch between the strings and the frets. I started fixing it but it was to far gone. I'm actually making a replica.
wow, really cool. DO you have any plans please....
Great design. Just bought a Firestorm 10" tablesaw and I have been looking all over for plans and I like yours the best. I will be spending my weekend figuring out your video. Already replayed it 10 times!!! How did you attach the springs you mention in another comment? I look forward to checking out more of your videos.
Hello Thomas,
One end of the spring are inserted in a shallow hole on the hook and the other is inserted in a shallow hole on the lever arm (the 2x4 the kids are pushing down). The holes need to be aligned the that the spring is compressed nice and straight. During assembly, the spring is compressed a little bit as the hook pivot pin (bolt in my case) is inserted. The spring being in compression will keep the hook in the lock position until you press the little handle and unlatch it or when you press it down to lock the wheels down. The spring is captured due to it wanting to extend and the way the hook hits the lever. It's all pretty simple once you catch on.
You need that early Camaro in the garage, not the blue one which has no value. Great job on the base.
Love the design and ease of use! How is the spring and locking mechanism assembled?
Hello Ryan Goehring,
The spring is a compression spring I bought at Lowes or Home Depot. They come two or three to a bag. The spring is compressed and always wants to push or rotate the latch into position. There is a great video by MyRobertadams "Planer Stand". His video shows a similar latch being assembled. The gentleman explains how it is assembled and how it works. Hope this helps.
Hola. Por qué no hace un video enseñándonos como hizo el mecanismo. Gracias
Aweomse project. I'm in the early stages of trying a similar one. What is adding the tension to your wooden latch. It springs into place when you kick it down and springs back into place when you release. How did you achieve that?
Thanks for the help.
Hi jordoPDX,
The spring is a compression spring I bought at Lowes or Home Depot. They come two or three to a bag. The spring is compressed and always wants to push or rotate the latch into position. I just saw a great video by MyRobertadams "Planer Stand". His video shows a similar latch being assembled. The gentleman explains how it is assembled and how it works.
Fantastic solution as I also have a large bandsaw and base similar to yours, which is almost impossible to move. Any chance you could do a more detailed video as to how it’s made please. Great video. Thank you
Hi Mike, There is a great video by MyRobertadams "Planer Stand". His video shows a similar mobile base being assembled. The gentleman explains how it is assembled and how it works. Hope this helps.
@@AlcalaGuitars Thanks for getting back to me, I’ve watched Roberts video but still can’t decide what height I need to fix the cross piece to the legs of the stand. Am I overthinking it. The castors I plan to use are 3” so I’m thinking the hinged timber that the castors fit to needs to be about 2 3/4” from the floor. Thank you.
Buena idea me gusta voy a ponerle un set a mi sierracinta y a mi serrucho de banco ,la vikina Buena rola
How did you determine the wheel size and placement? Also have you made any where the lever is on the outside of the tool? Do you have a drawing and measurements?
Hello John,
The wheels are the cheapest I could find. They came on a furniture dolly I purchased at Harbor Freight for around $8 dollars. The placement of the wheels is as close to the hinge line as possible. The trick to the 10 year olds pushing the lever down with ease is the amount of lever travel vs the amount of lift. If you notice, the amount of lift is very small compared to the distance the lever travels down. The ratio between the travels can be used to estimate the force needed to push down with. For example, the down travel on the lever is 5 inches and the upward travel of the band saw is .25 inch, then 5 / .25 is 20. So now you get the weight of the band saw say 80 pounds... 80 / 20 is 4. So, the kids are pushing down with 4 pounds of force. I regret not making plans for this design. I have had many requests for the plans. I think if you watch the video and think about the "trick" I described above, it should not be impossible to make a good mobile base. Good luck.
As others have mentioned, your design is clean and functions smooth. I have a question: on your latching system there is a metal cross piece that allow the hook to latch, where did you purchase the cross piece, or did you modify something to produce the loops/holes on each end that allows for bolting the piece to the frame? Thanks!
NitsuaNayrb Hi NitsuaNayrb, I'll try to explain how I made the latch catch. I got a 5 or 6 inch long quarter inch bolt. The bolt had about an inch of threads at one end and the rest was not threaded. I cut the threaded portion off and also cut the head off. I was left with a 3 inch rod. The rod is not modified any further. The rod is dropped in a slot that was routed on the 2 x 4. It is held by two bolts that go through the 2 x 4. The two bolts have washers on them. The washers press on the ends of the rod. It makes the rod look like it has eyelets at the ends. The bolt holes are counter bored to a 1/4 inch from the bottom of the slot.I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
but how do you make it? Plans??
Outstanding work. Would you please tell me the name of that song? I remember it from my childhood but can't remember who did it. Was that Herb Alpert???
La Vikina, great song from my childhood
Great design. Any chance I can get a simple sketch of whole unit please? I really want to build one for my bandsaw which is similar to yours. Thanks.
Daniel Yeung
Hi Daniel, I been trying to sit down and sketch the base but I have been so busy developing other tools for guitar building that I have little time available. I may take a break and draw it one of these days.
I'm curious how you fastened the wood to the saw legs. You can see the 4 bolts on each leg, but how are they fastened on the other end? Are they just wood screws in the end grain or are there nuts?
Hello Hooper Snow,
I used nuts in the back of the cross members. If you look closely, the cross members are compound mitered. I used the existing holes that came with the bandsaw. The back of the cross members are counter bored to eliminate some bolt interference in the back. All the bolts on the cross members are 1/4 inch bolts. Only the hinges are held on with screws. Everything else uses 1/4 inch bolts.
Plans?
Come on thats what pencils and paper are for . Working these things out and getting a working result is the best part
So how is it MADE?
perdon, cual es el tema que hace de cortina me suena pero no se cual es, disculpa muy buen trabajo
Hi Daniel,
There are two pieces played on the video. The first is "Has anybody seen my gal" and the other is "la Bikina". I don't who the authors are. Just a couple of songs I picked up along the way.
Hi would you have some drawings for this? It would be greatly appreciated!
what kind of spring did you use in the latch?
Hi Mike,
The spring is a compression coil spring, 1-3/4' long and about 1/4" diameter. I bought it a Lowes, they come in a bag of four. It is not very strong. I had to use two of them to get enough force to rotate the latch.
Great Idea, how can I get the plans?
Sorry, I didn't draw the plans when I built it. Work and school got in the way.
Hello Craig Morey,
Sorry, I didn't make plans for this mobile base. There is a great video by MyRobertadams "Planer Stand". His video shows a similar mobile base being assembled. The gentleman explains how it is assembled and how it works. Hope this helps.
do you have a set of plan?
Hi Chuck,
I did not draw up plans for this base. I was tired dragging the band saw across the garage every time I needed to use it. I actually wore down the rubber pads on the feet. I just started looking on you tube and doodling sketches. The corners of the base frame were tricky. They have a compound angle cut. I had to make some test cuts to get it just right. All cuts were made on the band
saw except the latch bar groove which was made with my little router.
Have seen these mobile bases and its variations on RUclips video but when you work off of someone else's ideas, common courtesy is to give that person the recognition. Thanks to Mr. Carl Holgren for introducing this great innovation to our woodworking community.
BUENAS AUN NO HA PODIDO SUBIR EL VIDEO DEL QUE ME HABLO
GRACIAS
Hola Woodworker, Discuple por la tardanza. Mi camara necesita una bateria nueva. La bateria ya no se pudo cargar. El video aun esta en mi lista de pendientes.
Robert Alcala pues nada sigo esperando ella esta en una esquina de mi taller esperando caminar
gracias
no hablo muy buen el ingles por eso le escribo en espanol en el caso que me entienda solo quisiera saber si pudiera poner un esquema de como funciona el resorte pues me interesaria adaptarlo a mi drill press
gracias
Hola Woodworker, estoy terminando una base para mi drill press. En cuanto la termine tengo plan para un video hecho con fotos. En el pondre el detalle de el resorte y el gancho.
AlcalaGuitars mil gracias estoy impaciente de verlo
resolv51, thank you but it's not my invention. I got the main idea from a Ridgid tablesaw.
Thank you so much for showing this. Do you have another machine you would like to build one of these for? Hint Hint..., and video tape the process and then post that very informative video to make the woodworking world an even better place.....and help novice like me to build this wonderful mobile base? Hint Hint, please, please, please..
Pattie Dooley Hi Pattie, I just built a mobile base for my drill press. I did not video tape it because my camera was not working. The battery is obsolete and hard to find. I have one more tool (Ridgid 6" planer) that needs a base. I might build this as soon as I get a little free time (I have been very busy this year). I have been tempted to disassemble the band saw base and video tape as I put it back together. I'll think about it.
+AlcalaGuitars I just bought the Ridgid 6.5" planer/jointer today, and I was wondering if you completed the mobile base for yours. Did you learn any new lessons from this setup?
Hello Benjamin,
I have not started cutting the base yet. I have some sketches but I haven't come up with a design I like. I want to keep the wheels inside the frame. I want it to lift only about an 1/8", This planer is very top heavy and I don't want it tipping over. If it wants to tip over, the pads will touch the ground and stabilize it. The less upward travel, the less force is needed to lift it. The other issue is getting the latch actuator outside the frame. I want it simple so my grand kids can move it.
Were those your grandkids in the video?
Yes, they enjoy going to Home Depot with me. I enjoy helping them with their homework.
I hate video’s like this, no explanation of how to do it. Nice job though