Hi, I have been around the block investigating this, and proven for my self with your recommendations, as in your RUclips tutorial. I'd like to share this summary with you as it may help fill in between the dots a bit for some watchers. There are two main options, to grade OM-log-400 in Divinchi Resolve 1. Color management or alternately 2. Manual 1.Select in "project settings" "color science" select color manged" select "output color space"= rec709 (standard stuff). Under "look up tables", select OM-log-400 LUT. (this needs to be pre-loaded into Divinchi) Make sure it's the "output table" you have selected (NOT input table). This enables you to grade before the LUT as in the video above. With this option Divinchi applies the LUT for you at the end. 2. Manual (all in your own node tree) same as option 1 above in outcome, but you do the work. In "project settings" select "color science" Davinchi YRGB". Select timeline color space rec709 or Davinchi WG/intermediate. (DWG/int will offer better grading as some of the tools are "color aware".) Select "output color space" = Rec709 Gamma 2.4. Do not select any LUT's in the look up tables section. Now manually add the OM-log-400 LUT in your node tree at the end. Grade before the LUT, for best results. Note the full color space Gamit (range of CIE chromaticity) is preserved. To prove this, (experiment) set "output" in project settings to Divinchi wide. Save, then view CIE chromaticity viewer, you will see an huge color Gamit over shooting rec709 boundary markers, reset "output" to rec709 and you can see the CIE chromaticity viewer indicating the gamit inside the 709 color space boundary markers. Therefore we know the full color Gamit is available and is only suppressed to rec709 at the end.
Holy shit this is amazing!!!!! I’m a photographer and wanted to learn videography and I’m using my ride or die Olympus so thank you so much for this. You’re here proving this system is capable!
Thank you for the kind comment!! Honestly nowadays (going back a few years actually) it's difficult to find bad cameras. People will nitpick and say "autofocus is unusable" or "the 8bit file will fall apart"... But years ago the same folk talked about "cinema grade quality" on things that today would be laughed at. We all will choose different tools for different reasons, all valid ones (including how does a camera look), and there's a lot to squeeze from all of them. Anyways, I'm glad if the video was helpful 😌👍🏼
Thanks!! I've been doing it for a while and you're the very first to comment on it 😊 I don't like getting bored, so I assume that some people just want the 1min elevator pitch instead of me vlogging about my morning walking the dog or taking the kids to school... Because that's how exciting my mornings are 😅
I'm glad this was helpful! And in case you haven't seen them, I have a bunch of short videos about Davinci Resolve: Davinci Resolve Basics: ruclips.net/p/PLZst2QsrC8VFs5vPtRKWgkE_E67kQwfp6 And that list will slowly grow as well 👍🏻😊
@@RogerinFinland Thanks Roger, I will check them out! Superb content. I noticed this video was in 1080p. Did you also record in 1080 or down res from 4k?
@Etchd Photography also has a pretty good video on color correcting and grading OM-Log400, for the OM-1 😊 He turns on color management, but without using DaVinci wide gamut AFAICT (something I would like to try), and in his case, he decided against the OM-Log400 LUT. Cullen Kelly (a color pro) proposed a third solution, for when people don’t have the color management specifications for a camera, namely, you apply a color space transform as the last node, from Davinci Wide Gamut - or maybe any log profile? -, and then in the nodes before you’re in essence just matching the difference between the actual log curve of your camera and whatever log curve you are using for the “head start”.)
Appreciate your comments!! Is there by the way some topic you'd like covered on Olympus (I only have the EM1 mk II)? Flat Vs OMlog400 is in my to-do list.
That would be very nice, but unfortunately I don't own an OM1 and I'm not sure if I'll get one. If I get my hands on some OM1 10biy Log footage for sure I'll make a color grading video though 👍🏼👍🏼 And thanks so much for your comment!!
Where can I get some sample OM-1 OM-Log400 footage, straight out of camera, does anyone here know? I would like to try out three methods for color correcting it in DaVinci Resolve, the one by Roger, one by Etchd Photography and one proposed by Cullen Kelly (a color pro).
I can't give a straight and simple answer. The G9 does have better and more video features. The EM1 mk II has better autofocus. The EM1 has log profile via firmware update (OMlog400); for the G9 it's a paid upgrade (but you get 4:2:2 and 10bit). The EM1 is slightly smaller. The menus are a matter of preference... I will be making a full video comparing them, but I can tell you right now that there won't be a winner 😊, it depends on what matters the most to you.
I learned a lot from this video, thank you so much! I noticed that when you are fixing the color, you are not using lift, gamma and gain, you are using shadows, midtones and highlights (the “log” version of the wheels - I know from a curve point of view what the difference between the two modes is). Can I ask why you are using those curves instead of the normal ones? Others (including professional colorists) will stay with the normal wheels, but OTOH I have also read that for log footage, the log wheels are good starting point.
I'm glad if the video was helpful! About "normal Vs log", they are just different tools. It's been a while since I made this video, or any other color grading video so I'm speaking from (probably bad) memory here. So, what I recall is that lift-gamma-gain affect each other more strongly than shadows-midtones-highlights, so that's what makes me use over the other one on occasion and viceversa. Mind you, I'm just a hobbyist, so listen to the professionals. I'm also an engineer and a nerd, so I hope I make some practical sense in my videos 😅, but I'm not s professional colorist.
@@RogerinFinland Indeed, that is the difference, the curves for the three wheels have a very sharp separation in “log” mode. OK - and this is what I read from pro colorists - you just use what’s more appropriate. But it’s better you know what you are doing 😊
Hi! For color in general I prefer log, and with this method I like the skin tones I get. For low light, I haven't tested enough, but you just gave me an idea for a video 😊👍🏻 Lots of testing coming
@@RogerinFinland thank you very much . i have a question i've seen a video of you filming with the 17mm 1.8 . i do mostly talking-head videos in front of tthe camera does it hunt for autofocus with that lens or were you filming with manual focus . also i wish there was trick for unlimited recording just like the latest sony cameras .
The 17mm f/1.8 doesn't hunt for me with the EM1 mk II. It does hunt a bit with the Panasonic G9, but everything does. And there aren't any parameters to adjust for the OMlog400 picture profile. To me looks fine and you can judge by my Olympus videos if it's too sharp for your taste / needs.
Nice one! It's nice to see someone else's process. I had a hard time liking the officially provided omLog400 lut. Working with clipped highlights right off the bat is a bit annoying especially when you try to expose well in camera coz you don't really have that much headroom coz it's 8 bit. I don't get why they made it that contrasty. For me it seems like the flat profile lut is a lot more conservative in that regard.
Thanks! And the highlights is about dynamic range, not so much the 8bit, which is color depth. It is still annoying though 😁 I wanted to share this because too many people think of LUTs as magical things that do every by themselves, and that's not the case. Nice to find fellow OMlog400 users! 👍🏻😊
Hi! I haven't done this earlier, but we could have an initial discussion. Could you please contact me in private via Instagram private message? My handle is in the description.
Hi, I have been around the block investigating this, and proven for my self with your recommendations, as in your RUclips tutorial.
I'd like to share this summary with you as it may help fill in between the dots a bit for some watchers.
There are two main options, to grade OM-log-400 in Divinchi Resolve
1. Color management or alternately 2. Manual
1.Select in "project settings" "color science" select color manged" select "output color space"= rec709 (standard stuff). Under "look up tables", select OM-log-400 LUT. (this needs to be pre-loaded into Divinchi) Make sure it's the "output table" you have selected (NOT input table). This enables you to grade before the LUT as in the video above. With this option Divinchi applies the LUT for you at the end.
2. Manual (all in your own node tree) same as option 1 above in outcome, but you do the work.
In "project settings" select "color science" Davinchi YRGB".
Select timeline color space rec709 or Davinchi WG/intermediate. (DWG/int will offer better grading as some of the tools are "color aware".) Select "output color space" = Rec709 Gamma 2.4. Do not select any LUT's in the look up tables section.
Now manually add the OM-log-400 LUT in your node tree at the end. Grade before the LUT, for best results.
Note the full color space Gamit (range of CIE chromaticity) is preserved. To prove this, (experiment) set "output" in project settings to Divinchi wide. Save, then view CIE chromaticity viewer, you will see an huge color Gamit over shooting rec709 boundary markers, reset "output" to rec709 and you can see the CIE chromaticity viewer indicating the gamit inside the 709 color space boundary markers. Therefore we know the full color Gamit is available and is only suppressed to rec709 at the end.
Holy shit this is amazing!!!!! I’m a photographer and wanted to learn videography and I’m using my ride or die Olympus so thank you so much for this. You’re here proving this system is capable!
Thank you for the kind comment!!
Honestly nowadays (going back a few years actually) it's difficult to find bad cameras. People will nitpick and say "autofocus is unusable" or "the 8bit file will fall apart"... But years ago the same folk talked about "cinema grade quality" on things that today would be laughed at.
We all will choose different tools for different reasons, all valid ones (including how does a camera look), and there's a lot to squeeze from all of them.
Anyways, I'm glad if the video was helpful 😌👍🏼
I love yours "for impatient ones" ! Quick rundown helps a lot and always makes me to watch the rest :)
Thanks a lot!
Thanks!! I've been doing it for a while and you're the very first to comment on it 😊
I don't like getting bored, so I assume that some people just want the 1min elevator pitch instead of me vlogging about my morning walking the dog or taking the kids to school... Because that's how exciting my mornings are 😅
Thanks for this video Roger. I watched it some time ago, but now I'm back here.
Thanks so much for the message! 👍🏼😊
Wow, this is stellar. I learned so much from watching this video... scopes, color checker, applying corrections... thank you for the great content!
I'm glad this was helpful! And in case you haven't seen them, I have a bunch of short videos about Davinci Resolve: Davinci Resolve Basics: ruclips.net/p/PLZst2QsrC8VFs5vPtRKWgkE_E67kQwfp6
And that list will slowly grow as well 👍🏻😊
@@RogerinFinland Thanks Roger, I will check them out! Superb content. I noticed this video was in 1080p. Did you also record in 1080 or down res from 4k?
I shoot in 4k and deliver in 1080 (so far)
Great work mate! The lut definitely needs some massaging to get looking right! You have explained a very nice and easy way of getting it usable!
Thanks!! Yeah, it's a common misconception that LUTs, in general, are some magical thing that "just works" 😊. I'm happy if the video is helpful!
@Etchd Photography also has a pretty good video on color correcting and grading OM-Log400, for the OM-1 😊 He turns on color management, but without using DaVinci wide gamut AFAICT (something I would like to try), and in his case, he decided against the OM-Log400 LUT. Cullen Kelly (a color pro) proposed a third solution, for when people don’t have the color management specifications for a camera, namely, you apply a color space transform as the last node, from Davinci Wide Gamut - or maybe any log profile? -, and then in the nodes before you’re in essence just matching the difference between the actual log curve of your camera and whatever log curve you are using for the “head start”.)
Hi Roger ! Very interesting video again ! Thanks for sharing :)
Appreciate your comments!!
Is there by the way some topic you'd like covered on Olympus (I only have the EM1 mk II)? Flat Vs OMlog400 is in my to-do list.
I don't even own an Olympus camera but I want to help your video get a better tick up in the algorithm.
Thanks so much!! 🙏🏼👍🏻😊
@@RogerinFinland keep up the good work!
Great vid. I hope you will be able to do one like this for the OM1. It Log video seams quite different and a lot better too.
That would be very nice, but unfortunately I don't own an OM1 and I'm not sure if I'll get one.
If I get my hands on some OM1 10biy Log footage for sure I'll make a color grading video though 👍🏼👍🏼
And thanks so much for your comment!!
It help me a lot !! Thank you
Happy to help then 👍🏼😊
How did you added the nodes at 3:00 ? key shortcut? I can´tfigure it not..thank you :)
In Windows Alt+S, in Mac... "Whatever-equivalent-to-Alt"+S 😅
That adds a serial node after the one you have selected.
@@RogerinFinland cool thanks! :)
Where can I get some sample OM-1 OM-Log400 footage, straight out of camera, does anyone here know? I would like to try out three methods for color correcting it in DaVinci Resolve, the one by Roger, one by Etchd Photography and one proposed by Cullen Kelly (a color pro).
I'd be interested to give it a go also, and see how the 10bit of the OM-1 behave under stress 👍🏻
Thank you, this is very helpful!
I'm happy if it was helpful 😊👍🏻
great video!
Thanks a lot!! 👍🏻😊
👋 which in your opinion is the best choice the Lumix G9 or the Olympus em1 Mark ii?
I can't give a straight and simple answer. The G9 does have better and more video features. The EM1 mk II has better autofocus. The EM1 has log profile via firmware update (OMlog400); for the G9 it's a paid upgrade (but you get 4:2:2 and 10bit). The EM1 is slightly smaller. The menus are a matter of preference...
I will be making a full video comparing them, but I can tell you right now that there won't be a winner 😊, it depends on what matters the most to you.
@@RogerinFinland I have the lumix G9, but I will wait for a video of you to try on night photos and videos
does anyone know if there is a 3d lut for premiere pro for om log400
I'm not a Premier user, but I believe that the same LUT I used in this video (the official from Olympus) works in Premiere.
Awesome!
Thanks for the comment!! 👍🏻😊
I learned a lot from this video, thank you so much! I noticed that when you are fixing the color, you are not using lift, gamma and gain, you are using shadows, midtones and highlights (the “log” version of the wheels - I know from a curve point of view what the difference between the two modes is). Can I ask why you are using those curves instead of the normal ones? Others (including professional colorists) will stay with the normal wheels, but OTOH I have also read that for log footage, the log wheels are good starting point.
I'm glad if the video was helpful!
About "normal Vs log", they are just different tools. It's been a while since I made this video, or any other color grading video so I'm speaking from (probably bad) memory here. So, what I recall is that lift-gamma-gain affect each other more strongly than shadows-midtones-highlights, so that's what makes me use over the other one on occasion and viceversa.
Mind you, I'm just a hobbyist, so listen to the professionals. I'm also an engineer and a nerd, so I hope I make some practical sense in my videos 😅, but I'm not s professional colorist.
@@RogerinFinland Indeed, that is the difference, the curves for the three wheels have a very sharp separation in “log” mode. OK - and this is what I read from pro colorists - you just use what’s more appropriate. But it’s better you know what you are doing 😊
thank you very much . do you find he flat mode is better than log for skin tones and low light?
Hi! For color in general I prefer log, and with this method I like the skin tones I get.
For low light, I haven't tested enough, but you just gave me an idea for a video 😊👍🏻 Lots of testing coming
@@RogerinFinland thank you very much . i have a question i've seen a video of you filming with the 17mm 1.8 . i do mostly talking-head videos in front of tthe camera does it hunt for autofocus with that lens or were you filming with manual focus . also i wish there was trick for unlimited recording just like the latest sony cameras .
also can you turn the sharpness down in log . i've heard it's overshapened in om log400. thanks
The 17mm f/1.8 doesn't hunt for me with the EM1 mk II. It does hunt a bit with the Panasonic G9, but everything does.
And there aren't any parameters to adjust for the OMlog400 picture profile. To me looks fine and you can judge by my Olympus videos if it's too sharp for your taste / needs.
@@RogerinFinland thank you
Nice one! It's nice to see someone else's process. I had a hard time liking the officially provided omLog400 lut.
Working with clipped highlights right off the bat is a bit annoying especially when you try to expose well in camera coz you don't really have that much headroom coz it's 8 bit.
I don't get why they made it that contrasty. For me it seems like the flat profile lut is a lot more conservative in that regard.
Thanks! And the highlights is about dynamic range, not so much the 8bit, which is color depth. It is still annoying though 😁
I wanted to share this because too many people think of LUTs as magical things that do every by themselves, and that's not the case.
Nice to find fellow OMlog400 users! 👍🏻😊
great!
Thanks!!
👍👍👍
Thanks 😊
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Hi! I haven't done this earlier, but we could have an initial discussion. Could you please contact me in private via Instagram private message? My handle is in the description.
@@RogerinFinland please check
Can you articulate more ?! You're mumbling in your beard and it's difficult to understand what you are saying...
I'll definitely try to. English is my 3rd language, so I do what I can. And the beard doesn't have anything to do with my speech 😊