Why this port is a BIG deal for Mac gaming
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Quick video about the Mac port of Honaki Impact 3rd and what this means for Genshin Impact and other mobile games coming to Mac.
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This is actually so exciting, I've been hoping for a Honkai Star Rail port for quite a while, so I'm really curious what else they'll port if Impact 3rd does well!
not really necessary for a star rail port.
Playcover version works flawlessly.
@@12yrtti the PC level graphics is unparalleled. Using Playcover only brings you shabby mobile graphics
@@shigure_114 worth noting this honkai impact "mac version" is just an ipad version running on catalyst.
@@shigure_114 Playcover gives you M2 iPad Pro level of graphics, not mobile phone ones. It's roughly equivalent to PC medium settings
Genshin would be nice
Mihoyo would rather port an entire game than give their Android games controller support lol
Well, one store have about 1 active OS version for every user and about 5 different phone type (by screen size, not by phone name..), but the other have 4 OS and hundreds of phones (not to mention the difference in those phones, like even new budget phones can lower the price with just Bluetooth 5.0 or 5.2, but for example your code required a Bluetooth 5.3 to work..)
Simply way more work/testing required on Android, and actually not even worth it to spend 20x more time on it, since the renevue still more on Apple app store (the 89billion store renevue is actually the 15-30% cut off, so the developers earning 3-6x more in that store, but in Google play store it's only 42billion, and the cut off is actually the same even in steam store (9billion) and in playstation store (30billion) too, so the earning by the store actually tell you that how much money earned by the developers (it's more accurate if you check about the 2021-2022 renevue, when still everyone equally worked with 30% cut off)
So why would they waste 1 full month of work on something what on the other OS can be done by just 1-2 days (simply way less amount of combination exists, so way less work to do and more importantly to test it you need the devices too, will you buy all type of phones for them what they are missing..?), when that 1 full month also pay back only half of the price of the 1-2 days on the other OS..?
That and give the PC version a 120fps or higher toggle without modifying the files.
But genshin and HSR already have controller support in android…
@@itsmeonion4279Genshin only has controller support on PC and iOS, not android.
The weird thing, is that Android had native Xbox controller support since Android 9 (we’re on 14 now), so you’d have to purposefully omit it from a game to make it not work.
You can navigate through the entire Android OS with a controller, but you can’t play Genshin with it… HSR works though, but only with Xbox controller/X-input.
I’m 53.
Gaming has been about to become a big deal for the Mac since I can remember the Mac 🖥️
Same as every year has been the year of the Linux desktop :)
@@newezreal3241 Well Linux is actually having a breakthrough for gaming right now, thanks to the Steam Deck and Proton. I think Apple wants to do the same by releasing ways to play iPadOS and Windows games on Mac.
Compatibility layers like Proton and GPT are a huge deal imo.
Genshin and star rail on Mac would be awesome
If Mihoyo lets me play all their games on Mac, then all I need is for Riot to release a Mac version of Valorant and I no longer need my PC...
The elephant in the room is GTA 6. If Apple could get Rockstar Games to port GTA 6 to MacOS, that would change everything.
I'll cope with you, that would be the best
I've told my friends this is the only game that will make Apple look like they are serious for gaming.
I really don't think that'll happen. Developing for PS5, PS6, Xbox Series X/S, Xbox Next - that'll be priority 1. Then a year or two later they may reluctantly release a PC port that's pretty poor to begin with and that'll be that.
@@casperes0912IF there is a PC port, I wouldn’t expect it to release until some time in 2027. And Mac? That’s not going to happen unless Apple throws R* a metric boatload of cash. So IOW, not going to happen.
It's not an elephant at all. It won't come to Mac. It's that simple. Stop coping.
The biggest stumbling block to gaming on Mac is Apple itself. Sadly.
Guess the biggest potential win in using MetalFX with this would be battery life improvements.
What happened to the M3 vs Zephyrus 14 video?
I really hope that HSR comes to Mac
This
I used to play Honkai Impact 3rd in 120Hz glory everyday for almost an entire year on my now 7 year old Pad around the year 2020 but I stopped as I got busy after that. Now that it's on the Mac I'm excited to revisit with a 120Hz screen again but this time in 4k. Thanks for posting about this Andrew, I wouldn't have known that it was made available on the Mac if it weren't for your channel.
Remember when the excuse for games not getting ported was that Macs were too slow, or Macs didn’t support DirectX…
Well, it turns out games that can work on Mac with a simple Xcode checkbox enabled don’t even get ported because developers don’t want to set up a support team to support the Mac. 😂
Not only that, a AAA game dev never knows when Apple will depreciate or just plain get rid of a core technology that their game depends on. Too many game devs lost out when Apple dropped 32 bit apps, and things like Apple depreciating OpenGL really doesn't give developers much confidence in making games for Macs, a dev could produce a game today, and in 18 months Apple may decide to stop supporting some technology that the game depends on, forcing the developer to completely rewrite that game or stop supporting it, in most cases the low volume of sales usually means the dev stops supporting it.
@@malch2843 You're not wrong. I'm really really ticked off (polite term) that Apple dropped support for 32-bit games and ALL my favourite Steam games won't work now, forcing me to get Crossover for a suboptimal experience.
That said, if Apple Silicon and Metal are the future of Macs...? 🤷🏻♂
@@malch2843 Apple forewarned developers with a three year-notice: it was already absurd, at that point in time, that some of them had no intention to update their code to x64 both on Windows and Mac (32 bit-only apps in 2019: seriously?). Apple's always been fairly forceful with technologies deprecation but they're almost always been right: this time around, though, developers had had plenty of time (again, we aren't just talking about extremely old games: keep in mind that any CPU from the Core 2 Duo onwards was 64 bit! The ancient Core 2 Duo!). The important stuff gets supported long enough, actually Apple probably kept supporting the old OpenGL technology for way too long (Metal was long overdue). Apple aren't dropping any core technology anytime soon, especially with the ARM switch.
I want to play Wuthering Waves on my MacBook
Hi Andrew, do you experience any throttling while playing on Mac?
As a HI3 player, this makes me so happy 🎉
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I'm wondering if you'd be able to get Dead by Daylight (Steam game) working on your Game Porting Toolkit setup, as in my case it keeps prompting an error message once the game's loaded, potentially due to the anticheat system?
indeed, that's the case with 99% of online games on gptk
I would LOVE that every AAA title that got over 64Bit and OpenGL apocalypse would get an UB2 binary with controller fix. But I don't think that feral or aspyr would do anything for mac again...
Seems a bit optimistic tbh so I wouldn't get my hopes up too much, but would really like to see that happen.
Meanwhile Ubisoft making AC Mirage only for iPad with M series chips and iPhone with A17 Pro chips
The console level games required the 8GB memory, so older devices, even if the phone totally usable with less memory (also consume less power even in idle mode), the less than 8GB memory backfire here, on 6GB there are some game, what is unstable (you can play it even on that, but sometimes randomly crash when it's out of memory)
Is the m1 max more powerfull than m3 pro chip? For example, i saw more fps in overwatch 2 on m1 max than m3 pro.
I hope its quicker than No Man's Sky being released on the iPad.
Recently made the decision that I will have to be getting a windows laptop for school, but I'm still going to follow Macbooks just because I find the technology interesting. Keep up the great work covering the developments!
will this let me play skate 3 on m1 MacBook Air
Andrew, what are the best alternatives for PlayCover?
Windows PC
@@cyberbot076 ofc, only Mac for now
@@cyberbot076 Agree, they're unbeatable for ransomware compatibility too: back when a ransomware seized most of the PCs at my workplace, the few machines I had set up running Linux and Mac weren't infected, I was really jealous of my colleagues since I felt left out!
I hope they will finally port Genshin as well 😭😭
I mean for MiHoYo is a lot easier since they're using Unity (probably the more advanced chinese version) which makes porting to different platforms almost seamless!
I wish I had access to the Chinese version
I wish I had access to the Chinese version
I'd love to see a 120fps port of Real Racing 3 to MacOS, mostly because I have 2000 hours put in that game (not proud)
I really want to play all of the Mihoyo games so badly
legitimately I thought you meant port like HDMI or MagSafe or something haha
can i play honkai impact only using a touchpad?
Theoretically Yes (you also need a keyboard of course)
Genshin and HSR when 👀
Parallel for Genshin works great! Please give them a shoutout, because they have fixed their environment color light issue in their latest patch update! =)
we need star rail and I hope they consider ZZZ for Mac as well.
Same
I really want honkai star rail on mac, like pleeeeeease…. 😔 I know you can side load and use playcover, but I’m worried about the account getting flagged or something.
I don’t own an ARM/M series based Mac, I have an Air from 2013, but I would love to get one. The only game I can play is WoTB and I find it mildly boring, but I don’t want to play these other mobile games shown here (especially the anime ones). The game that I would like to be natively playable on Mac is Pizza Tower, never played it but have been a fan ever since it was announced to be in development and yes there’s Crossover but I would like to wait to get an M-chip Mac before doing stuff like that. Also even though the “subscription” for Crossover is actually a one time payment for one year of updates I still feel it’s overpriced at 70-75 USD and if I were to get Pizza Tower 20 USD the would be basically 90 bucks for a 20 dollar game.
Indeed it is pretty big news, unnoticed by many
I downloaded this just to show support
I hope they’re porting genshin to macOS as well
All they have to do is check a box and allow the mobile app to Arm Macs. Could you imagine COD: Warzone on Mac for minimal effort? Make it happen MS.
this is great !
Hi, Andrew.
I left you comment a few years ago. MiHoYo's games are not available on Mac because they have not obtained the Mac distribution license, not because MiHoYo does not want to do so or for any technical issues. Honkai Impact 3rd recently obtained the Mac's license, so it can be released on Mac. MiHoYo's other games will need to continue waiting for SARFT's approval.
It so interesting
Got to be honest. I don’t play anything on my Mac. Only work. Play on my Xbox or ps5. Still watch all your videos and wish Mac gaming the best.
Thank you, for this very nice video. However, I would have used a different title: perhaps "Why porting an iOS game to run on a Mac desktop, is a Big deal for future mac gaming" (smile...smile).
Cool
To be fair I would rather see more Tripple-A-Games Mac instead of more Mobile Games, because I got a phone, I got a tablet, I got a Switch and I notice some games are better for the user flow mobile instead of the user flow on a Notebook or Desktop.
So I would rather like to see Apple finally stepping their game up to really utilize their theoretical graphic power to make even RTX Games work with a loss of 20% to Windows FPS on Mac.
I don’t know a single mobile game I would actually play on my Mac Desktop or Notebook.
Crossover for example seems to not support RTX, even so with game porting toolkit.
So yeah, they should step this game up.
Everything else is basically a little boring.
Omg genshin impact pleaaaaaaase 🤞 my only problem would be the space.
Only thing is worth to waiting for is Asahi Linux
Cool!=)
I want a Macboock with apple chip to play, I have tried windows pc, windows eats many memories, macOS seems to me a system that is very well optimized, I would use it for school, work and play, I have seen that with the portintool kit it is amazing, I think a Mac is better to play because I have tried games on windows and they work better on macOS, for example Minecraft Java is terrible on Windows, in macOS it is very good, the sims 2 is very bad is Windows and in macOS it is incredible, it is not that I despise Windows it is simply that I want my computer at the time of playing is not doing tasks in the background that I did not ask for, 8gb of RAM in macOS have even been enough for me to program in Android studio a competent app, I do not have too much money and I am thinking of buying another Mac but with an apple chip, which M1 OR M2?
In my experience games work better on Windows than MacOS. Of course specs matter
I think the biggest reason for codWM and pubgM not coming tomac is because it would make the game extremley unfair i could see an argument for warzone full fat to come to mac but i dont we will see cod on mac agian in our lifetime
Do a video on Mumuplayer(Gaming android emulator) that recently launched
I'm either getting an M4 iPad Pro, or 14" Macbook Pro 12-core M3Pro.
Mac and cheese wow
I would play this on my Mac but I don’t trust downloading Chinese software
There literally is nothing to worry about
@@crestofhonor2349 ohhhh ok sure
… because of the implication…
Ineed star rail!
MAHOYO
Fortnite is coming to mac soon as well
Intersting
Isn't always "such and such is a big deal for Mac gaming" or "This will change Mac gaming forever" like every year?
Meanwhile Macs will forever remain woeful as platform for gaming and handheld gaming PCs are beginning to take off.
Good news but I really dislike all Muhuyo's games. I rather see every single game on Steam for PC work on the Mac. Now THAT would be the best gaming news ever!
GENSHIN IMPACT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASAE PLEASELPAPLEASAELPLPEASE PLASE PLASE LPEALSP
First like :D
nobody asked
I hope this means we can see Honkai Star Rail and Genshin Impact get both MacOS and TVOSversions. I want a MacOS version of those game but I’d really liked to see TVOS ports. Because I don’t know if it’s Sony’s or Mihoyo’s but getting cross progression to work between mobile devices and the PS5 is terrible and I can’t get it to work. At this points if it means I could easily play on my TV using the Apple TV box even it’s just one version I can’t change any settings I’d take it at this point so I could use my save files native on the device. Right now I use GeForce Now to play HSR and GI on my TV.
Thanks for the video. But obviously, there is nothing unique or exciting about this port. It's exactly the same version as PC.
Genshin's PC version is different. It is almost 3-4x times bigger and specifically supports keyboard+mouse.
Genshin map is twice as bigger than hi3, but worth noting genhin in mobile is smaller (hi3 on mac is an ipad version tho).
Isn't this just a crappy mobile game? What's the big deal?
I honestly want fortnite on mac 😅 ik they had lawsuits but plz bffr
bro we want warzone nobody plays this....
i really want overwatch 2 ported 😢 I feel like it would run amazingly if enough effort is put into it
ahh get yourself in the top third of the screen, my internal cinetographer is dying right now.
Cloud gaming will become mainstream before Apple makes their systems run new AAA games properly
This "performance" test doesn't make any sense since dude just tested 6 years old content.. You need to go to part 2 section, here is modern locations, much more heavy than old ones..
"Free to play" micro transaction BS. There's no point in even playing this trash.