Ivankin style is not sloppy, he's actually an expert in top rolling. The problem is that he is facing an expert technician that nows what propper techniques to use against a top roller, and that guy is Brzenk.
Ошибаешься немного,потомучто Воевода проиграл Бадженту лишь единожды ,но в реванше Воевода не оставил Бадженту не единого шанса ,а и Брзенка Воевода положил легко ,хотя реванша между ними небыло ...но все же Джон Брзенк легенда ....
Mirko Romeo also in this match Taras Ivakin wasn’t shit. The worst thing he could do is take corner advise from alexey Semerenko. Brzenk broke that guy BAD. Ivakin has beat John though and is to be respected. Hear about his comeback attempt? He’s old like John but man I hope he comes back too. He’s training hard it looks like.. the sport is finally growing
2005 john was massive over 220lbs but it wasnt his strongest, He was in best form from 2006-2009 there was no one that could beat him in a hook at that time
Voevoda had one spectacular year, and that's it. He was great during that year, but nothing more. Also, watch his match against John again. During their first pull, Alexey puts a huge hit on, but Brzenk top-rolls and pulls Alexey back to center before they slip. The second match, both went for hook and Voevoda won. Had they not slipped the first time, John wins it. And that was after an army injury, during arguably the worst year of John's career, and having just beaten Taras the round before.
the other guy is exaggerating by saying that john was at his best from 2006-2009. But your reply is voevoda that was good in 2004? The fact that you are only able by saying 1 year saids it all. Voevoda was good one year, and thats it. btw i thought bagent destroyed voevoda in 2004? or was that 2003? i'm not sure
No, he was dominant for' 1 yearn all the other years he was veyr beatable. So you can't counter his Brzenk comment with that because Brzenk was dominant for over 20 years and also wrestled when he was in very bad shape (voevoda didn't). So if your reply tried to say voevoda his one year is more impressive than johns whole career, then you made a massive error
nm c Brzenk lost to several of the greats when he was young. He had trouble with Lupkes losing several matches to him, was beaten by Goodridge, Cleve Dean etc.. Brzenk has been at the top much longer and more consistently than anyone. This is why he is considered by most to be the greatest all time.
Достали писать Voevoda the best.Никакой он не бест.Трэвис его много раз уделывал как ребенка.Да и Брзенк проиграл ему только из-за травмы.Лучше видео смотрите а не из себя придумывайте.Да пускай для вас будет бест но не надо тут писать публично.
Elman Haciyev Он чаще проигрывал лишь в последних годах своей карьеры, и то будучи веганом, а так же много времени уделял бобслею, а камбэк да, вообще не о чем
i said in his (prime) yes he is unbeatable in 2004 he never lost once not like tars prime 2005 he lost in both hands or john in 2006 lost in his stronger arm to farid but not voevoda in 2004 you get what im saying right?
Meanwhile, Voevoda had guys surrendering to him all day because of other upcoming events. He was bull-strong, and completely fresh. When John bulked up to work towards a rematch, and the rest of the field started to get stronger as well, Voevoda coincidentally disappears into bob-sledding. 2006 Brzenk would beat 2004 Voevoda. 2008-2011 Larratt could get him too. I may even take today's Cyplenkov against him. When Voevoda comes back, I promise you he won't be as good as he once was either.
3:05 Ivakin intentionally "slipped" from the hand of John - this is clearly shown by the movement of his little finger and ring finger. Ивакин нарочно "съехал" с кисти руки Джона - это отчетливо видно по движению его мизинца и безымянного пальца.
no one in armwrestling history didnt lose a match everybody lost a match here and there but the thing is voevoda prime in 2004 was unbeatable while brzenk prime was beatable and yes he did beat brzenk and sorry john didnt dominated everybody in 20 years his weight class yes not overall last time i checked guys like goodridge and lupkes was there too and john is a legend no argue there but so is voevoda who left a big mark in just 1 year but he was good for several years but he changed sport!!
he beated voevoda in 2003 in canada but voevoda got his revenge in 2004 nemiroff plus voevoda was best for many years he was unbeatable in 2004 in 2003 lost the finals and in 2002 was the man and hell even in 2007 was ranked second so how the hell he was good one year? he is 3 times world champ and couple of times euro champ in different years from 2002/2003/2004/2007 and your saying only 1 year? no that dont says it all its a fact for voevoda!!
still the way he smoked everybody in 2004 was not seen before not even by john in 2006. i disagree completely about him disappearing not becuz the rest became stronger but becuz bob-sledding was more profitable and better career there than to armwrestling. and btw he beated a well shape cyplenkovand his trainer confirmed this. he may not become as strong as he once was only becuz he is out from the sport like 7 years and he didnt practice at all and his right elbow now is not good too!!
Потому что тот кто стоит на вершине в течение практически 30 лет всегда вызывает уважение. И даже когда он стареет, он доказывет молодым что король всегда один.
i like match 5 brzenk doesnt take him seriously and then BOOOM taras with the top roll style if brzenk didnt run he would lose but still brzenk killed taras in this vandetta and own him!!!
devon kicked his ass in 2008 6-0 with a hook and what ever tech u want he beated him plus an old lupkes killed john too in 2008 add to that taras beated him twice in 2007 but lost a supermatch with john and hell even 2006 john best shape got beated by farid in a hook but can you say the same about a 2004 veovoda? no!!!
Джон железный мужик ! Столько лет форму держит !
До сих пор
джон лучший. вопрос закрыт все свободны.
Ivankin style is not sloppy, he's actually an expert in top rolling. The problem is that he is facing an expert technician that nows what propper techniques to use against a top roller, and that guy is Brzenk.
tomojulitaiga Brzenk knows everything
Ошибаешься немного,потомучто Воевода проиграл Бадженту лишь единожды ,но в реванше Воевода не оставил Бадженту не единого шанса ,а и Брзенка Воевода положил легко ,хотя реванша между ними небыло ...но все же Джон Брзенк легенда ....
@@АбдулаМусаев-щ5о как я помню в тот год джон все еще не восстановился с полученной травмой в армии
Джон его укладывает как любителя.Легенда!!
В то время уровень Джона был недосягаем. Только топовые тяжи, типо Воеводы могли уложить Джона. И то не всегда.
@@АндрейЧесноков-ч6ф и тогда он не был травмирован сильно.
Не думаю, что "любитель" почти победил бы Джона. Тарас был невероятно сильным
who else finds it funny, when they go to walk off after a round and forget their hands are strapped together
Makes sense though. It's so intense on the table that you forget to keep your fingers open until they say to close em.
Arsen Vs ivakin would be epic!
Haha love the round that starts at 2:19. John's straight into the hook and Taras can't even begin to deal with it.
Джон обычный мужик! А Химики вроде Дениса и то проиграли ему под старость )))) Природа есть природа))))Джон это как Тайсон в Боксе
Ты присутствовал при сдаче анализов Брзенком?
it really amazes me how brzenk wins against these monsters,he looks quite average.
That's because you don't know exactly where to look!
Manish Baid tendons of pure iron and raw strength earned not only from steroids like most others.
Jhon is the real monster. Taras biceps are bigger, it s true, but look at the Jhon wrist/hand/ forearm. He's a fucking neanderthal.
Mirko Romeo also in this match Taras Ivakin wasn’t shit. The worst thing he could do is take corner advise from alexey Semerenko. Brzenk broke that guy BAD. Ivakin has beat John though and is to be respected. Hear about his comeback attempt? He’s old like John but man I hope he comes back too. He’s training hard it looks like.. the sport is finally growing
Too much resolution for this days, my screen is bend due to the hot
Прекрасный ролик.
John Brzenk is a fucking beast !!!
Taras is freaking strong, but brzenk is such on another level even in his later years
John Wayne He is truly unique
Brzenk - лучший американский рукоборец!!!))
Судью на мыло!!!)
John looked massive here. This is the John we need back.
2005 john was massive over 220lbs but it wasnt his strongest, He was in best form from 2006-2009 there was no one that could beat him in a hook at that time
Фарид османов
Voevoda had one spectacular year, and that's it. He was great during that year, but nothing more. Also, watch his match against John again. During their first pull, Alexey puts a huge hit on, but Brzenk top-rolls and pulls Alexey back to center before they slip. The second match, both went for hook and Voevoda won. Had they not slipped the first time, John wins it. And that was after an army injury, during arguably the worst year of John's career, and having just beaten Taras the round before.
Beaten Taras after Voevoda)
Всю неделю тренировался и стал чемпионом планеты.
1:58 John's elbow 1 inch above the table
This just got recommended to me why?
1:58 look jon's elbow , not touching table
Great
brzenk is a legend
the other guy is exaggerating by saying that john was at his best from 2006-2009. But your reply is voevoda that was good in 2004? The fact that you are only able by saying 1 year saids it all. Voevoda was good one year, and thats it. btw i thought bagent destroyed voevoda in 2004? or was that 2003? i'm not sure
Джон интервью дает я неделю тренировался два раза неделю это неполное достаточно
@headcaseman
he was 209 lbs / 95kg in this match
No, he was dominant for' 1 yearn all the other years he was veyr beatable. So you can't counter his Brzenk comment with that because Brzenk was dominant for over 20 years and also wrestled when he was in very bad shape (voevoda didn't). So if your reply tried to say voevoda his one year is more impressive than johns whole career, then you made a massive error
This spoiled the intro of "Pulling john" for me... that pinning on ivakin was actually a point for taras lol :P
NO ONE could be a match for Brzenk when he was young.
nm c Brzenk lost to several of the greats when he was young. He had trouble with Lupkes losing several matches to him, was beaten by Goodridge, Cleve Dean etc.. Brzenk has been at the top much longer and more consistently than anyone. This is why he is considered by most to be the greatest all time.
Достали писать Voevoda the best.Никакой он не бест.Трэвис его много раз уделывал как ребенка.Да и Брзенк проиграл ему только из-за травмы.Лучше видео смотрите а не из себя придумывайте.Да пускай для вас будет бест но не надо тут писать публично.
левой?
+Сергей Владимирович читал комментарий и радовался, пока до последней фразы не дошел
Elman Haciyev Он чаще проигрывал лишь в последних годах своей карьеры, и то будучи веганом, а так же много времени уделял бобслею, а камбэк да, вообще не о чем
Воевода в ЕР этим все сказано.
i said in his (prime) yes he is unbeatable in 2004 he never lost once not like tars prime 2005 he lost in both hands or john in 2006 lost in his stronger arm to farid but not voevoda in 2004 you get what im saying right?
Voevoda unbeatable... even though he lost to Travis Bagent?
ТАРАС ХОРОШИЙ БОРЕЦ НО В СРАВНЕНИИ С ДЖОНОМ ОН ПРОСТО ЩЕНОК
Meanwhile, Voevoda had guys surrendering to him all day because of other upcoming events. He was bull-strong, and completely fresh. When John bulked up to work towards a rematch, and the rest of the field started to get stronger as well, Voevoda coincidentally disappears into bob-sledding.
2006 Brzenk would beat 2004 Voevoda. 2008-2011 Larratt could get him too. I may even take today's Cyplenkov against him.
When Voevoda comes back, I promise you he won't be as good as he once was either.
Archibald Doogan And you were right!!
I think the dislike of this video is from Ivakin
the family of Ivakin
Бляяяяяяя,как же я жалею,что я не оказался там в Ялте((
3:05 Ivakin intentionally "slipped" from the hand of John - this is clearly shown by the movement of his little finger and ring finger. Ивакин нарочно "съехал" с кисти руки Джона - это отчетливо видно по движению его мизинца и безымянного пальца.
getting old? he already is old hes already 48.....
no one in armwrestling history didnt lose a match everybody lost a match here and there but the thing is voevoda prime in 2004 was unbeatable while brzenk prime was beatable and yes he did beat brzenk and sorry john didnt dominated everybody in 20 years his weight class yes not overall last time i checked guys like goodridge and lupkes was there too and john is a legend no argue there but so is voevoda who left a big mark in just 1 year but he was good for several years but he changed sport!!
the point is lost here so i won't be putting more energy in this topic
Ivakin's arm is fuckin huge
Ручища какие у Тараса.
41 год Карл
he beated voevoda in 2003 in canada but voevoda got his revenge in 2004 nemiroff plus voevoda was best for many years he was unbeatable in 2004 in 2003 lost the finals and in 2002 was the man and hell even in 2007 was ranked second so how the hell he was good one year? he is 3 times world champ and couple of times euro champ in different years from 2002/2003/2004/2007 and your saying only 1 year? no that dont says it all its a fact for voevoda!!
Ivakin looks like such a young dude here. Look at his recent videos he looks like an old man. Why do Eastern European’s age so badly?!
Some go overboard on steroids then don't get off of them and probably don't get on trt like they need to. Most ped abuse will age you though.
worst reffing of any arm wrestling match in history
God is God
God
still the way he smoked everybody in 2004 was not seen before not even by john in 2006. i disagree completely about him disappearing not becuz the rest became stronger but becuz bob-sledding was more profitable and better career there than to armwrestling. and btw he beated a well shape cyplenkovand his trainer confirmed this. he may not become as strong as he once was only becuz he is out from the sport like 7 years and he didnt practice at all and his right elbow now is not good too!!
Почему я болею за Джона???
Потому что тот кто стоит на вершине в течение практически 30 лет всегда вызывает уважение. И даже когда он стареет, он доказывет молодым что король всегда один.
Джон легенда и лицо этого спорта, как можно за него не болеть? ))
ну да)
Brzenk best of all voevoda strongest larrat best now 2014 travis best left ever cyplenkov idk about that guy brzenk just 95 kg cyplenkov over 130...
Eyup Atasoy
Coz you're a son of a bitch
да и алексей воевода тоже химик)) все блин химики. без них они все фигни поверьте!!!!
i like match 5 brzenk doesnt take him seriously and then BOOOM taras with the top roll style if brzenk didnt run he would lose but still brzenk killed taras in this vandetta and own him!!!
Voevoda-The BEST!!!!
bad refereeing
devon kicked his ass in 2008 6-0 with a hook and what ever tech u want he beated him plus an old lupkes killed john too in 2008 add to that taras beated him twice in 2007 but lost a supermatch with john and hell even 2006 john best shape got beated by farid in a hook but can you say the same about a 2004 veovoda? no!!!
@khalsasikh haha...good point
Вафлерный рефери поди
nah thanks im not gay why you think that in the first place? if you want comment on a gay video not here please!!!
армреслинг это синтоловое рукоблудство...
Arsen Vs ivakin would be epic!