That one struck me also....ha ha....I do wish my Jewish friends would at least attempt to read the 4 Gospels of Christ....then they would learn that Jesus never ever referred to himself as a Christian...in fact Jesus Christ never used the word Christian as it was a word and description that was created after the ministry of Christ on this earth....in fact it was a term created by non believers in Jesus to describe the growing community of believers at that time....indeed the term Christian itself is only used 3 times in the whole New Testament.
Not so fast, Stimul. While I agree that as an historical fact Xtianity had not yet developed while J was preaching, the intention of the assertion that he "converted to Xtianity" is a way of saying that he taught principles which are anathema to Judaism and therefore like developing a new religion. What are those principles? Among many others: "No man may come to the Father but through me." This is a obrogation of one of the most fundamental commandments, that "You shall have no other G-ds before me." Judaism requires keeping kosher, keeping the Sabbath and honoring one's parents. J taught that these commandments dont apply. So while your observation is corect in only the most narrow sense, taking a more bird's eye view of his approach to Torah does reveal a step toward a new, fundamentally non-Jewish, path.
ha ha ha brilliant! he whole arguement between all religions is a nonsense and counter productive, and a waste of time. Just look out for folk, and be good for them, and be the light and examople, and stop wasting time with thse dumb arguements. And find entertaining examples like your brilliant discovery that jesus was ''a christian'' ha ha! brilliant!
Rebbe never said he was messiah. He encouraged His coming. The Rebbe was the most righteous in our time. It is understandable some would think of him as messiah. Nontheless. he is someone that set a standard for us to strive to reach.
Leah, it really saddens me when I hear Jewish people, or anyone, say things like that. No one sets our standard but God my dear. The best human that ever lived can only make a poor effort to live up to God's standard. Allowing a human to set your standard is practicing to fail.
Dude at 2:29: "Jesus can't be the Messiah...because he became a Christian." Sorry, but at what point did Jesus ever, EVER become a convert to Christianity? Jesus was a Jew through the span of his adult life. Does anyone really think he'd pray to himself to intercede on his own behalf with God? I'm not a theological scholar or anything but that's really hard for me to buy into. But it seems to come up again and again with the circles of the orthodox and ultra-orthodox religious Jews who usually have extensive exposure to Talmudic studies or to the opinions of communities who make Talmudic study their primary practice. I have never once heard this position taken by any of my friends or associates who are reform or conservative Jews. This is very similar to the kind of foolishness I hear from the fundamentalist Christian community when they speak about topics like Dominionism and the Rapture - hot-housed ecumenical idiocy that can manifest in closed religious organizations with strong preconceptions and highly dogmatic interpretations of scripture/text.
It's true, they have no idea what they're talking about. I know Jesus is not the messiah, because I don't think he is and I am the definition of truth.
There’s always the same misunderstanding that Jesus was a Christian. The Christian religion wasn’t established/organized until decades after Jesus’ death. Jesus was a Jew
I see that jews are not very educated about christianity... everybody says: he became christian, he is an apostate, he didnt believe in torah etc etc..... well no, Jesus did not become christian, he did not invent christianity.... the people who kept following him after he was crucified called themselves christian.... Jesus´aim was not to create a new faith system... he was a Jew, he was a mesiah and he came to update the faith that was originally in.... the jews denied him and his teachings so for those who wanted to follow his teachings- they had to split from the original jews and create the new one.... jesus was actually very knowledgable about torah... he used to have passionate discussions with rabbis... part of the christian bible is the old testament and the new testament....not just the new testament... the reason why christians did not throw the old testament to trash and just kept the new testament as their new Bible is, that the old testament is important too... it says what was before the messiah came, and the new testament say what was after the messiah came... and Jesus couldnt be an apostate, because he was born and he died as a Jew.. he never said : create a new religion and call it christianity..... it is just what people started calling themselves
"Yoshke Ponkrik" isn't "Jesus in Yiddish", but an insulting name for Jesus Christ in Yiddish. The same applies to "Yeshu" in Hebrew. His Name is Yeshua, Yeshua haMashiah.
Jews think He did abolish the Torah because let's face it, over 90% of the Christian world has nothing to do with the Torah. All the doctrines (and all of them are FALSE) teach that the Torah was abolished and they only need faith. Of course, they take Paul's references and twist the scriptures to justify it when Paul never meant to, he was referring to those who wanted to be justified by works alone.
@@Caution40404 the orthodox and catholic church does not believe this though. We believe in works and faith. Those that are still full flooded hebrew must follow the law of moses. Those that are gentiles don't have to but follow the law of christ which was a gentile version of the law of moses. Good works gives you redemption, Faith gives you victory over death which the messiah was said to do.
thats just as bad, the rabbinical traditions are just as important and part of the torah as the ones explicitly written, if he goes against them he is considered a heretic
Not really. Jesus actually teached tons of rabbinical traditions, especially from Beit Hillel in the Sermon of the Mountain. He had a beef with the Pharisees because he wanted to be recognized by them and saw it wasn't happening, so he started to criticize them and even accusing them of bad faith. Karaite Jews realized that they also had to develop traditions to fill the gap (since Sola Scriptura is clearly not good enough) and they learned to respect the rabbinical traditions; they just do not follow them, since now they have their own traditions.
As an ahteist who is learning Judaism, this is what I've read : Jesus cant be accepted by jews because his messianic characteristics don't add up -The messiah is supposed to bring an era of peace, love, compassions etc, which absolutely didn't happen -In jewish conceptions, nobody can't be g.od, not even the messiah, neither being the only son of g.od, in the jewish conception of the world, every human is the son of g.od However, some jewish scholars admited the importance of Jesus (Yeshua or Yehoshoua). Maimonides said that through christianism, g.od have transmited most of the important elements of the message of judaism , you can see christianism as an imported version of judaism just like buddism is with hinduism.
Thank you for sharing the Jewish perspective because it proves that Isaiah prophecy has been fulfilled in that the Messiah (Yeshua) is a Light to the Gentiles. Amen!
elConsciente NY, can you please point out to me the verse that says the Messiah will be a light to the Gentiles. I have read the entire Isaiah and never seen such a verse. In fact I have never even seen the word Messiah in the book of Isaiah. But perhaps you can correct my mistake (if I am making one) and actually show that verse where it says what you claim regarding the Messiah. Oh, and then show me where Isaiah names the Messiah as "Yeshua". I am VERY curious to see that verse for if you can show such a verse you will have done what nobody else in history has done. I anxiously await...
Ha, I detect some sarcasm! All good man, all good. The verses I'm talking about speak of a Servant of God chosen by God to do great things. Here they are: Isaiah 49:5-6 (NIV): And now the LORD says --- he who formed me in the womb to be his servant to bring Jacob back to him and gather Israel to himself, for I am honored in the eyes of the LORD and my God has been my strength --- he says: "It is too small a thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept. I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth." Isaiah 49-7 (NIV): This is what the Lord says --- the Redeemer and Holy One of Israel --- to him who was despised and abhorred by the nation, to the servant of rulers: "Kings will see you and stand up, princes will see and bow down, because of the Lord, who is faithful, the Holy One of Israel, who has chosen you." Isaiah 52:13-15 (NIV): See, my servant will act wisely; he will be raised and lifted up and highly exalted. Just as there were many who were appalled at him --- his appearance was so disfigured beyond human likeness --- so he will sprinkle many nations, and kings will shut their mouths because of him. For what they were not told, they will see, and what they have not heard, they will understand. Isaiah 51:4-5 (NIV): "Listen to me, my people; hear me, my nation: Instruction will go out from me; my justice will become a light to the nations. My righteousness draws near speedily, my salvation is on the way, and my arm will bring justice to the nations.
elConsciente NY, you were correct in noting the sarcasm but I feel it is warranted. The claim that jesus is the subject is without any basis & so when somebody seeks to insert jesus into the Passages in Isaiah, it behooves me to point out that this is the farthest thing from Isaiah's intention. Yes, there is a servant of God and that is precisely the point. The servant is not identified as the Messiah and so to insert it as being the Messiah is without merit. In fact the servant IS identified as ISRAEL quite a number of times by God in the book of Isaiah. However in chapter 49:5/6 the person spoken there as being a light to the nations is none other than Isaiah himself. Notice the word "me" is used by the Prophet Isaiah. Btw... I suggest you stop using Christian translations of Hebrew Scriptures. They are faulty to the max. Literally thousands of mistakes are made by them. I have seen this myself because I am a Hebrew speaker. I suggest you use Judaica Press translation & if too expensive (though it can be found online as well on the chabad website which is chabad . org (no spaces) ) you might try ArtScroll Publications. No translation is perfect but these are the best. Btw... I retract my earlier statement that I never saw the word Messiah in Isaiah. I actually did see it once. God in Isaiah refers to His messiah Koresh (Cyrus) in chapter 45:1. I apologize for the mistake.
1) It's my understanding that in Rabbinical writings such as those of Maimonides there is the concept of a "Suffering Servant" as Messiah and a Messiah that would be a light to the nations. So for you to say that the "servant" does not represent the Messiah is an outright OPINION of yours. The passage is up for interpretation, and just by anybody reading it one can sense that this "servant" is destined to do great things. So please save me the "oh you christians twist scripture" argument. 2) Yes the servant is identified as Israel in some passages but then in others the servant is clearly identified as a person. Why would God make that distinction if it was not important, why not just call the servant Israel throughout the whole Book of Isaiah? It is clear that the passages are talking about a person when it speaks of "disfigured face" and so on. 3) I don't know Hebrew so I would appreciate it if you would post YOUR translation for the world to see before stating that the scriptures that I posted were mistranslated. That said I will look into the bible versions mentioned as I am only looking for TRUTH. One day I will take it upon myself to learn Hebrew so I can read the Dead Sea Scrolls myself. It should be noted that the very first Christians were Hebrew speakers like you. They were Jewish like Yeshua so there were no issues of translation. A gentile like myself knows your scriptures because of early believers that took it upon themselves to spread the gospel to the world. 4) The "me" you mentioned has to refer to the spoken SERVANT mentioned throughout Isaiah. I believe it's part of the prophet Isaiah's prophecy because Isaiah was not a light to the nations. The only one who currently fits that description is Yeshua. I have to point out that it's 2018 and Israel is a powerful nation celebrating its 70th anniversary, the tribes of Israel are being restored, and the Hebrew scriptures have travelled the world. Many of the prophecies have been fulfilled. 5) I'm well aware that many Jewish people believed that Cyrus was the coming Messiah in ancient times. Do you think he's the Messiah? If not then who do you think is the Messiah and why? Thanks
Jesus never said he was equal to God - John 14:28 Jesus didn't deny the Torah - Matthew 5:17 Jesus was an expert in the Torah - Luke 2:41-52 Jesus was a Jew - Matthew 1:1-17 Jesus did practice Judaism until his death - Matthew 26:17, Luke 4:17-21 So Jesus isn't the messiah because he was killed... well, so were many other prophets... since when does that disqualify? Job 14:14 - someone who has died CAN live again I could continue, but I think I've proven my point, no need to continue
Jesus claims to be the first and the last, a statement used by God in the bible to affirm his divinity. The metaphorical description of Jesus in the first chapter of Revelations matches that of God in the book of Daniel. There are plenty of places where Jesus alludes to himself being divine, which is in starkly ironic to Old Testament teachings.
You're going to have to quote scriptures so I can refer to them. Rev 1:8 says "I am the Alpha and the Omega", says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." "Almighty" refers to God, not Jesus, as Jesus does not have complete power, but only that which God has given him.
In Revelations 22:14 the same statement of the alpha and omega is repeated, and in Revelations 22:16 it is revealed that Jesus is the one speaking, so there seems to be some implicit references by Jesus himself to being divine. In Revelations 1:14 " The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow", while in Daniel 7:9 "His clothing was as white as snow; the hair of his head was white like wool." There are some clear parallels. Jesus is claiming to be God.
Isaiah 53 1 Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? 2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. 3 He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. Like one from whom people hide their faces he was despised, and we held him in low esteem. 4 Surely he took up our pain and bore our suffering, yet we considered him punished by God, stricken by him, and afflicted. 5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed. 6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before its shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth. 8 By oppression[a] and judgment he was taken away. Yet who of his generation protested? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was punished.[b] 9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth. 10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the Lord makes[c] his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand. 11 After he has suffered, he will see the light of life[d] and be satisfied[e]; by his knowledge[f] my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,[g] and he will divide the spoils with the strong,[h] because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
N vd Plas Isaiah 53... 1Who would have believed our report, and to whom was the arm of the Lord revealed? 2And he came up like a sapling before it, and like a root from dry ground, he had neither form nor comeliness; and we saw him that he had no appearance. Now shall we desire him? 3Despised and rejected by men, a man of pains and accustomed to illness, and as one who hides his face from us, despised and we held him of no account. 4Indeed, he bore our illnesses, and our pains-he carried them, yet we accounted him as plagued, smitten by God and oppressed. 5But he was pained because of our transgressions, crushed because of our iniquities; the chastisement of our welfare was upon him, and with his wound we were healed. 6We all went astray like sheep, we have turned, each one on his way, and the Lord accepted his prayers for the iniquity of all of us. 7He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he would not open his mouth; like a lamb to the slaughter he would be brought, and like a ewe that is mute before her shearers, and he would not open his mouth. 8From imprisonment and from judgment he is taken, and his generation who shall tell? For he was cut off from the land of the living; because of the transgression of my people, a plague befell them. 9And he gave his grave to the wicked, and to the wealthy with his kinds of deaths, because he committed no violence, and there was no deceit in his mouth. 10And the Lord wished to crush him, He made him ill; if his soul makes itself restitution, he shall see children, he shall prolong his days, and God's purpose shall prosper in his hand. 11From the toil of his soul he would see, he would be satisfied; with his knowledge My servant would vindicate the just for many, and their iniquities he would bear. 12Therefore, I will allot him a portion in public, and with the strong he shall share plunder, because he poured out his soul to death, and with transgressors he was counted; and he bore the sin of many, and interceded for the transgressors. Note the contrast in translations. Then look at the following and note the context... 15So shall he cast down many nations; kings shall shut their mouths because of him, for, what had not been told them they saw, and [at] what they had not heard they gazed. This last verse here is verse 15 from chapter 52 which provides the context for chapter 53. The kings of the nations are speaking in Isaiah 53 all the way till verse 10.
ellenfrancis67, you could also question her as to how she would derive jesus from 'he was assigned a grave with the wicked'. After all, according to the new test wasn't jesus assigned a grave with the rich? His death was with the wicked according to the new test. Yet her version of Isaiah says the precise opposite. That the death was with the rich. So it turns out that her version of Isaiah 53 is the exact OPPOSITE of the jesus story here. P.S. ויתן means and he gave. :-) (you forgot the 'and')
ellenfrancis67, they probably have nothing to say about this because they probably have not really internalized what they read. Christians unfortunately have been dumbed down. I don't mean this as an insult to them. It is simply that this is how they have been taught to think. In fact they have been taught not to think. They have been taught to accept what they are told face value. If they actually truly looked for themselves they would clearly see the internal contradictions of their theology. Note how what Isaiah 53 says about the death and burial is the exact opposite (as I pointed out previously) of the way jesus is portrayed yet Christians insist on pointing to jesus as the subject. Had they actually used their brain to think about it, they would right away realize the fact that it is the exact opposite of the jesus story. I will point out another thing for you. If you look at John chapter 3 verse 13 you will note that he quotes jesus as saying "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven." But this clearly stands in contradiction of God's word in 2nd Kings chapter 2 verse 11 which states "And it was that they were going, walking and talking, and behold a fiery chariot and fiery horses, and they separated them both. And Elijah ascended to heaven in a whirlwind." These are the things Christians are never taught to notice. They just accept things at face value as to what the new test teaches. & then they add on their own commentary which also ends up for the most part contradicting what God says in Tanach. (such as the verse here in Isaiah 53 we are discussing) P.S. You're welcome. (on your other post for the thank you)
how could Jesus become a christian when being a christian means to follow the Christ which Christians believe Jesus is. also He never denied the Torah. in fact he affirmed it.
The messiah had to have entered into the second temple. As the temple of Herod the Great doesn't exist anymore, no one in this or the next generations can be the messiah
Romans 11: 25 Some of the people of Israel have hard hearts, but this will last only until the full number of Gentiles comes to Christ. And so all Israel will be saved. Amen!
Jesus never claimed to be the son of God nor the god or trinity. He taught ppl the oneness of God and how God was so powerful and believe in one god and don't do sins that's what he taught the rabbis and ppl. the messiah sent by Allah was the word OF TRUTH! and his mother Mary peace be upon her was so righteous why don't ppl believe in Jesus Peace be upon him he literally performed miracles and made ppl ALIVE! how come ppl don't believe in it???!!!! Judaism (WAS) TRUE BUT NOT ANYMORE. Jesus came to make it better but guess when his return will be then he will make everyone a Muslim (submitting their will to god). SO SHUT UP YOU ARENT THE MESSIAH!!!!!
Jesus was son of David, Jesus was born a Jew, Jesus didn't abolish the Torah, Jesus didn't associated anything with God, Jesus was pure monotheist, Jesus was the Messiah. Most of the people you has asked are ignorant they don't know their religion, if you ask learned man then they might know but they will conceal, the same they did with Muhammad. As said in the Qur'an: "Those to whom We gave the Scripture know him as they know their own sons. But indeed, a party of them conceal the truth while they know [it]. The truth is from your Lord, so never be among the doubters." (Q 2:146) אלה אשר נתנו להם את הספר מכירים אותו כפי שמכירים את בניכם (2:146 סורת אלבקרה)
Son of David? But he is the Son of God!!! So he cannot be the son of a man!!! He abolished the sacrifices in the Temple , ordered by God. He associâted his person( the Son) with God ( the Father).And the Holy Spirit to make the Trinity.
Yes if he is the Messiah, then He is the Son of God, have you not read Psalms 2??? Its not feom Christians that it is speaking of the Messiah, it is from ancient Jewish sources that the Messiah is the begotten Son of God!! I pray you are Christian today, AMEN❤@@malka7708
It's a bit of a mistranslation. While that word could be translated to boss in some contexts. In this specific context, he was saying that he is their principal/dean. (Not sure how much better that makes it)
IT’S not Yeshu It’s YESHUA HAMASHIA HE WAS RESURRECTED 3 DAS THEY CRUCIFIED HIM . 512 Jewish people witnessed 50 days after HE RESURRECTED ON THE MOUNT OF OLIVES you call this place mount of SION WHEN HE ENTER TO HEVEN.
The Messiah is not a popularity contest , it is a man who fulfills the mission of gathering all the 12 tribes to Israel , builds the Holy temple , is victorious in the war of GOD, and leads alll the nations to peace and truth in knowing GOD as ONE .
God Himself came into His creation to pay the penalty of sin. God Himself took on flesh and paid the ransom for many so they can have eternal life but only if they believe in Him Yeshua! Read Gospel of John and see who the Messiah is!
The rambam tells us why Jesus can't be moshiach - because he doesn't have any qualities to be moshiach. On the contrary when we consider the qualities which make moshiach we realize he is the anthesis of moshiach. The defining characteristic of moshiach is that he brings Jewish people back together and closer to God and His Torah and in the words of the rambam "has anyone done more harm in driving the Jewish people away from God, than Jesus?"
Rebbe Yeshua miNetzaret was a young 1st century CE Romaniote Hillelite of the Holy Land whose biography and teachings are recorded in Romaniote literature of the same century. His disciples (Simon Clopas and others) were sent to deal with his nephew Plony Yeshu HaNotzri Ben Stada' followers by Herod Agrippa II's Sanhedrin during the reign of Helen of Adiabene. From the early 4th century onwards, Rome made it illegal for Romaniotes to teach anything about their Rebbe. Nevertheless, a Hebrew record of his Biography and teachings known as Hebrew Matityahu has still survived into the present along with a handful of oblique references to him in Jewish tradition. He is not to be confused with his nephew Plony Yeshu HaNotzri Ben Stada.
Well here you see that the Jews dont know about Jesus and what he teaches. In short: Jesus said the Torah is good and true He attacked the priests for their believe in traditions And told them they have to back to the Torah only. He was never a Christian or teached christianity He teached the Torah
This is both hilarious and sad to see. Reminds me exactly of Hosea 2- where the Israelites abandon God for sake of material well being as this rabi “messiah” provided - the sad part is how they are almost deliberately kept in ignorance about Jesus, his teachings, the New Covenant and the role and history of the church in the world. we are blessed that we worship a merciful God however. Jesus is King. OneforIsrael.org
It's just one particular sect within Hassidic Judaism that believes this, albeit an extremely influential and growing sect. (They are growing both in terms of having many children and through their outreach activity among non-observant Jews.)
M Benyossef ya and you know what other extremely influential Jewish sect took over the world but actually fulfilled the Torah, Psalms and the prophets - Christianity :)
Well, that's what Christians believe. It actually was a pretty minor Jewish sect originally. It changed after Paul let in non-Jews without requiring that they first undergo conversion to Judaism, and once Emperor Constantine became Christian, it became kind of a big deal. But Lubavitch (Chabad) , contrary to some Jewish critics who say it will develop into another religion like Christianity, isn't interested in bringing in non-Jews. Any non-Jews who become Chabad/Lubavitch first undergo rigorous conversion to Orthodox Judaism, but not because Chabad missionizes among them.
M Benyossef yes i am well versed in church history, also I’m from Jordan/Palestine, so my ancestors were quite literally the first Christians in the world and the development of the sect into a world religion is well documented in our monasteries and holy cites. And as a matter of fact Christianity was already quite big deal before Constantine became Christian and the number of saints and martyrs and underground churches attests to that. I also think it’s quite clear in the Hebrew Scriptures that the Messiah is supposed to bring in the nations and that the new covenant would be distinct from the Old and worship would be in Truth and Spirit. This would not be possible without solving the problem of the rebellious human heart- which only through the Love of God through Christ can truly be amended “heart of stone vs. heart of flesh”. I would be very suspicious of a “Messiah” that cared not for humanity and only for the Jewish people/religion - that would make the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob the god of Israel alone and not the One True God, creator of heaven and earth.
Well, although I was raised in a religious Jewish home, I'm an agnostic now and I lean more towards atheism (Thank God!). Yes, Christianity was growing before Constantine, but it was first one of many competing Jewish sects and then after Paul allowed Gentiles in, it was just one of many Oriental cults in the Roman Empire. Jewish teaching lays out a number of necessary conditions for the Messiah to fulfill, including ingathering the Jews in their homeland, ending all wars, rebuilding the Temple, etc. Traditional Jewish eschatology teaches that when the 3rd Temple is rebuilt and all the Jews of the world are restored to their homeland (not in the way that so many Jews live in the State of Israel today), the world will be restored to its rightful order and things will be better for all humanity. At any rate, neither the late Lubavitcher Rebbe nor the dude from Nazareth fulfilled these conditions. (As far as I'm concerned this is all nonsense.)
Jesus came to earth to fulfill the torah prophecies, did no wrong yet he was crucified on the cross for all sinners and rose again the third day after he was buried. Accept Jesus Christs free gift of salvation. Reach and take of the tree of life, Jesus paved the path.
tranceman22 there is more historical evidence of Jesus than any other person of that time at least 10 historical writings talk about Jesus and described as the bible did so you have been misinformed even the biggest atheist dont deny he lived and most agree something happened that caused many to believe he rose they recently found a temple from the year 100-200 it has arameic writings saying yeshua is the comforter the king so check out the facts cold case christianity is a good site as welll as ravi zacharias frank turek wrote i dont have enough faith to be an atheist it hasthe i historical facts God bless you
An excellent question. 1. The Rebbe never claimed to be God or the son of God. Nor did his followers... ever. 2. Neither he or his followers never claimed that anyone who does not believe in him will burn in hell as followers of the catholic church believe. 3. Even if it turns out that he is not the Messiah... this does not change anything in the value of what he taught.... If Jesus would turn out to be a fraud... all christianity will collapse.
Jesus never claimed to be God he claimed to be the messiah. his followers claimed that he was the messiah who was of a divine nature who revealed God nature to his people, he fulfilled the checklist all the prophets said the messiah would do. hell was a roman perversion to conquer the goths and surrounding area's. later on Yeshua became God and the trinity was defined when the trinity was supposed to be a transcendent mystery of how God and the messiah work it was never to be defined. the messiah is supposed to reveal divine truth to his people and solve problems of humanity that no one has solved yet. the messiah is a concept that is transcendent and no man can truly achieve. people can only follow the way of the messiah. what is the way of the messiah? ill give a parable. a man or woman, works day and night grinding the bone trying every solution suffering every failure in order to find the cure to cancer. day and night the person works even tho they might not find it they keep trying, well one day after an ubsurd amount of effort blood sweat and tears. they find the cure, then a man in a suit appears and tell them if they bury the secret cure they will give them riches, woman, and wealth, because they have made a profit off the problem remaining in the world. the person refuses the man in the suit. it is clear tho if they release the cure to cancer they might and probably will perish a horrible death. but regardless they publish the cure anyways even if it does kill them... WHY??? love... thats the only reason why and the only answer..love. these people are the ones who will save the world and make it better. only those people who fit that allegory. no politician who say a bunch of empty promises. or a revolutionary who says change the world by force just do the same bullshit but different people in charge. one set of people move the world forward and in a better place. the others move the world in circles wasting time and ruining lives.
@Forever Learning what does the Tanack say about the messiah? and one of the qualifications for being the messiah was having lineage of king David which both his mother mother and father Joseph had. so you cant say he didn't fulfill any of the requirements.
@Forever Learning regardless Mary is still lineage of David and he was adopted by Joseph. so regardless he still has king David's lineage. so that's still a qualification of the messiah.
I think he knew just six languages well. (Maybe he could get by in some others.) Yiddish was his first language, then he knew Russian because of growing up in Russia and the USSR, German from his time in Berlin and its closeness to Yiddish, French from his time in Paris, English from the USA, and he knew rabbinical Hebrew, which he spoke with an Ashkenazi/Yiddish accent. He was in Warsaw for a bit too, maybe he spoke some Polish.
@Secret Service Never heard that the Rebbe knew Spanish. Maybe he could read, but not speak it? I've seen video clips of him speaking all the other languages I mentioned, and there are lots of Habad hassidim in Latin America who speak Spanish, but I've never seen any clips of him speaking to them in Spanish by dollars or anything like that. Not saying you're wrong, and that I'm such an expert, just that j'd expect there to be audio/video of him speaking it if he knew it so well.
@Secret Service Okay, could be, I just never heard of him speaking Spanish, and never saw or heard any video or audio of him speaking Spanish. By the way, I was actually by dollars myself (I'm that old) and I seem to remember people from Argentina (probably) on line with me, but don't know if the Rebbe spoke to them. Also, by the way, he spells it "Steinsaltz" in English.
nechemia Vogel To my knowledge the Rebbe didn't know Italian or Spanish fluently. He may have been able to read and comprehend and have simple conversations in those languages. There are lots of videos of him speaking in French, Russian, Hebrew, Yiddish and English to people who spoke those languages, and I know he spoke all those languages well. I was by Sunday dollars once and on the line with me were people from Argentina who were speaking Spanish. I don't remember them speaking in Spanish with the Rebbe, although maybe they spoke with him in Hebrew or Yiddish? (Or ,maybe they didn't say anything, I really didn't have any conversation with him.) But it's one thing to be able to read and speak "ah bissele" anpther thing to know fluently.
True, but you guys refuse his Jewish roots every day by worshiping him. You don’t keep kosher, you don’t circumcise, you don’t live by the Thora nor do you live by the noachite law. I can’t even call you part of the Abrahamic faiths due to your mixture with western pagan religions.
@@nabil5535 I understand what do you mean, but If you know Yeshua and Torah is writen in your heart, some things have no matter, for example keeping man made traditions, which YeHoVaH never asked or comanded to do. We are not cristians, we keep Shabbat, YeHoVaH feasts, not eating pork, we are hebrew now, not pagans any more. All our life and duty is to serve YeHoVaH Elohim, El Shaddai of Ysrael, Elohim of Avraam, Yaakov and Ytzhak. Yes we are not perfect, but we have His mercy trough Yeshua HaMashich blood, to be added to the Ysrael house. Blessings to you brother and may YeHoVaH Kadosh one of Ysrael bless you and your house!
@@nabil5535 Christians believe in the New Convenant brought by Jesus, which is why we do not have to be circumcised, or keep kosher. We do live by Torah and noahide laws, and the sabbeth is still saturday. We do not mix western pagan religions only Islam is mixed with paganism. Christianity is a true continuation of second temple judaism, Rabbanic judaism is false.
HOW CAN ALL THESE PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT A MESSENGER FROM GOD WILL ACT IN A POLITICAL WAY - GOD IS PURE SPIRIT, SO THE MESSENGER OF GOD WILL HANDLE THE SPIRITUAL DIMENSION, AS JESUS DID !!
If Jesus is not the Messiah, a person who's most important value was LOVE and RESPECT over anything else and dies for your sins and as the Bible says treats women right, poor people,...and talks about a God who loves and forgives and not a God who you have to fear and that you have to follow 9000 rules as the Torah says then I don't know who are y'all waiting for...
you have gotta be the most ignorant person I've ever met, look in the talmud for a bit before you go yapping utter nonsense about what it is@@nurousek123
This people are ignorant. Yeshua was no Christian, he was Jew. Yeshua never denied Torah, he teached people to follow Torah and not Talmud. He teached people to follow the law. Christianityis invented after Jesus and by Romans, before that Yeshua's followers were sect in Judaism.
Jesus did not become a Christian. The word Christian comes from his name as Christ. Jesus was a Jew and always will be. Christianity was not even used to describe followers of Jesus until the First Century. He was a Jew and he taught the Torah and spoke the Torah. He never denied the Torah either. Maybe if these Jews would read the New Testament they would know this. Jesus did not change the laws of God, he fulfilled the law.
@@someman7 true. in the same time..all are called. as it is written.."when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself" we are all called to an amazing calling..but not all have their veil off. and this indeed seems to be His..purposes. thank you for reminding me to see everything in perspective..
6:33 man you need to start thinking for yourself and not believing everything what is written. It is not about religion, it is not about Messiahs and Prophets, it's about love for our fellow men, being spiritual and discovering the truth for ourselves.
I'm not with that the comment above wrote, but that is the point. According to jewdism the Messiah could be anyone, like Moses was only guardian some sheep and he became the leader of Israel, like King David who was the weakest among his brothers (he lived in a poor village) he was chosen to be the king of Israel, like shaul who became the king of Israel after he tried to help his father take his injured donkey upon him from Jerusalem to his village. We've seen it throughout the Torah. And I believe that the Messiah could be anyone. Jesus has denied the Torah, caused a huge division in Judea and took advantage of rabbais to teach him magic so he could carry more people through his way. Funny thing is when you compare Moses and Jesus, Moses was shepherd, Jesus was a salesman after being a carpenter. Like I said, the Messiah could be anyone. But not one who denies the Torah and causing the nation to fight against itself
We have to be very careful not to idolize someone to the point of claiming they are the Messiah, when they don’t meet all the criteria of the Messiah. I think the Lubavitcher Rebbe was a very righteous individual. He did so much good, perhaps more so than anybody else in our generation, but that doesn’t mean that he hast to be the Messiah. If anything, he is helped pave the way for the Messiah. When we stoop to saying that, because he was a righteous person, he could be the Messiah, we’re falling into the same trap that Christians fell into with their deity. The Lubavitcher Rebbe was a giant among us. But he wasn’t Messiah.
Jesus was the messiah in every way you can see. He spoke the truth did miracles and ascended to the Father. He was the incarnation of God. God doesn't have a form he's not a man like people imagine him to be. Jesus is the human form of God. Which ancient people had trouble understanding. Throughout old testament God has been giving instructions to the Jews to live a certain way but they failed to do so even like they do now. So he came in the form of a human just to show how it should be done. He challenged the corrupt Jewish preists even calling them hypocrites. Which is why he is villainized by the jews. Even the Romans found no fault with him when they crucified him. Demons feared him. Tell me one jewish leader that the demons fear now. Up until Jesus Christ every prophet in the old testament was from God. After his resurrection every one that followed was what the Bible says beware of wolves in Sheep's clothing. Don't believe me look at the markets controlled by the jews. Rothschilds, etc. You name it. Just like how the Messiah (Jesus Christ) came from the Jews the same way the anti‐christ (Satan's son) will come from the Jews as well
@@reALBOdmonjohnsON The Father is God and He is ONE and He is UNIQUE! All the men in this World are the Sons of God.God is not a man and He cannot be born of a woman( that He created, )it is an aberration.Gd does not incarnate, because it becomes idolatry : We pray in front of a stone image that We call God!When you say Jesus is the Son and God His Father, you believe in two Gods, and with the « Holy Spirit « that makes three !!! The trinity. When Moses received the Tables of the Law, on the Mount Sinaï, millions of people, including the surrounding Nations, heard the Mighty Voice of Gd who proclaimed: » I Am The Lord your God….you will not have other God but Me….you shall not make yourself gods of stone… » And every day, we proclaim aloud , in morning and evening player: » Listen Israël, THE LORD is our GOD, THE LORD is ONE! » You say that Jesus came to show us the Right Way.Okay I agree.So,why don’t you follow his example? He wascircumcised a-t-il 8 days old. He ate Kosher food’he observed the Shabbat, he prayed in Hebrew and not in Latin( latin was the language of the pagan Romans who crucified him and his disciples.) The Messiah is a Man ( not a Gd) born of a man and a woman of flesh and bones.He descends from the Line of KING David( who is a man , it seems to me.) About the » antechrist »,it is a pure invention of the Christians to discredit the Moshia’h of the Jews, When strong signs will announce him. Finally, Jews didn’t make massacres or genocides in the name of G-d. The Moshia’h is a Liberator for all mankind and all the Righteous of the Nations will have their share of the Future World.
he certainly wasn't "The messiah" but i think there's an argument to be made that he was a messiah in the same way that Cyrus the Great was also a messiah, in the traditional sense of the word
I see some similarities between this Rebbe and Jesus in the way their followers idolize them. Originally the Jesus movement merely recognized Jesus as a human man, a jew who they thought to be the Messiah. After his death, they then experienced visions of a resurrected Jesus or hallucinations of him if you don't believe in his resurrection. They also found an empty tomb. Jesus's body was most likely removed by Roman soldiers from the tomb but these Jesus followers so desperately wanted him to be the messiah, they concluded that an empty tomb could only mean a resurrection. Since they thought him to have resurrected, they went to the Tanakh and interpreted it as a prediction of Jesus and claimed that Jesus would return as Messiah. But they did not claim he was a god, at least not yet only a messiah, because the Jesus' followers were still orthodox Jews who adhered to the strict monotheism. We see this in three books of the Christian bible , Mark, Mathew and Luke who label Jesus as Messiah but not God. Here, in the case of the Lubavitch Rebbe, we have followers who claim that even though the Rebbe died, he will return as messiah and there are others who believe that he is still alive at 770 eastern parkway and is remaining hidden. Despite the fact that we have video and thousands of witnesses of him going into the ground. So this parallels the early stage of the Jesus movement in that they refuse to accept the death of their Rebbe. However as we all know, some 30 to 40 years after his death, two followers of Jesus, named Paul and John began to claim that Jesus was a manifestation of God himself, God living on earth, making no distinction between Jesus and God. They claimed Jesus followers did not need to follow all of Torah and Jewish Law. They split the Jesus movement in two and were in opposition to James, a brother of Jesus who led the original sect of the Jesus movement, who adhered to Jewish law and refused to call Jesus God. These followers of Paul and John called themselves Christians. The original Jesus followers called themselves Ebionites and were eventually killed, banned, and eradicated by Roman Christian emperors a few centuries later. The Ebionites were like the Lubavitcher Chabadniks today, an Orthodox Jewish movement that claimed a dead man as a messiah who will return in resurrected form. The question is will they eventually start to claim that this Rebbe is divine and even somehow God? Could they even reject Torah as some early Christians did. If Christianity is a good example of this, in a century or so Chabad may be it's own religion completely separate from Judaism.
Only Lubavitch believes that Rabbi Shneerson ע"ה, could be the messiah, and could somehow still be alive. Furthermore, they are the only sect of seemingly Orthodox Jews who believe in the concept of a second coming. Just want to be clear, whatever Orthodox-looking people say in this video in favor of "the Rebbe" being a or the messiah is not representative of mainstream, normative Judaism.
I find it very interesting that they believe in a "second coming." Would you be kind enough to provide information as to how they arrived at that concept? Thanks in advance!
@Mister Privacy And get nailed to a cross? Nope. That was the first time. Next time round is no more mr nice guy. ""Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."
From his mother's side ,hah ? Maryam bent Amran, And jesus never said he was divine or son of god ,that is why people believed him and the jews tribes were divided on him at that time and the christianity arised and prevailed all until the church falsely claimed him son of god .
@@hashemsaad4850 Jesus did say he was the Son of God, that's the main reason why he was executed. And both of Jesus' lineages related in the New Testament are Davidic. He is also by far the only Jew in History to clearly and undeniably fulfill the prophecy of bringing all the nations to the worship of the God of Israel.
@@leandronc God never let one of his messengers get executed or murdered, he always protected them against the odds even with miracles ,why would jesus be execluded from that mercy ? Cause he is the only son of god?? Would it be possible that he saved him before that to let him be execuded by the hands of who opposed him ? Was that prophecy fulfilled during his time or 100's of years after his time and under christianity flag not Judaism ? What i want to say is that i believe that god all mercfull sent mankind several messengers through time call it Judaism, Christianity or Islam But the messages were the same there is only one god that we will all return to one day.
@@hashemsaad4850 Jesus died for our sins. I agree the prophets speak of returning to God (Amos 4:12). God's judgement is also a clear message in His Word (Daniel 12:2). And so is the fact that nobody managed to uphold His law (Psalm 14:1-3), which is why Jesus came as the perfect sacrifice (Hebrews 10:11-14). But Jesus is now exalted at God's right hand, as per Philippians 2:5-11, fulfilling messianic Psalm 110.
"Do not touch My anointed ones, and do not harm My prophets." (אַל־תִּגְּע֥וּ בִמְשִׁיחָ֑י וְלִנְבִיאַ֥י אַל־תָּרֵֽעוּ:), psalms 105:15 Speaking of Israel, all of Israel are Moshiacs. The difference being that Jesu claimed he was a divine partner with G-d which is idolatry.
Im shocked about the guy who said that if they believe that Schneerson is the messiah, or better said that he will return as Messiah. It's like he's saying "Sorry God, we dont care what you want - what your goal is. We just want it our way and you will serve us." The man is dead, leave him to rest.
Isaiah 53 was traditionally interpreted as referring to one person, often the Messiah. In that case, the suffering servant can only be Yeshu/Jesus. Zechariah 9:9 and Daniel 7:13 also make clear the 1st and 2nd coming of the Messiah, in line with Talmudic interpretation (b. Sanh. 98a).
1st Yeshu was a mythological character and 2nd even by the story in the NT Yeshu never fulfilled the requirements to be a Jewish Messiah but he is a messiah to idol worshipers.
@@Rajul_Jamil There is more historical evidence for Jesus than there is for any other ancient person. Do you think Alexander the great existed? how about Julius Caesar?.. I pray that you take an honest look. You will find the truth if you seek it.
Jesus didn't become a Christian, His followers were called Christians because He Is the Christ! And all these people will bow down on their knees soon and will profess Him as Lord with their own lips! And not just them, but every single person on the planet! He is God, and He made an impact on the whole world, because He is God!!
Yeshua did teach Torah. And he didn't become a Christian. Christianity, as we know it today, has its origins in Roman Catholicism which seems to have come from the writings attributed to Paul. Those teachings have nothing to do with Yeshua's teachings.
God to Ezekiel - They won't listen to you because they don't listen to me. Jesus- "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.
yes the messiah sent by Allah and his mother Mary peace be upon her was so righteous why don't ppl believe in Jesus Peace be upon him he literally performed miracles and made ppl ALIVE! how come ppl don't believe in it???!!!! Judaism (WAS) TRUE BUT NOT ANYMORE. Jesus came to make it better but guess when his return will be then he will make everyone a Muslim (submitting their will to god).
How on earth did Jesus become a Christian. Oh my days. They do understand that Christianity wasn’t a religion. Jesus was the Jewish messiah he was Jewish. Followers of Jesus were called Jews and was classed as a sect of Judaism and it wasn’t until later that we were given the name Christian which means followers/believers of the Messiah the Christ means messiah. What have they been keeping hidden from these people. Seriously.
@@user-iw2wu8yp6v Crusades, inquisitions etc etc. The countless people who have suffered at the hands of Christians for thousands of years. All in the name of one man: Jesus Christ.
Yep. Add to that the issue of trinity and a human as God being completely incompatible with Judaism... It is therefore imo clear that Jesus simply can't be him (according to Judaism). 🤷♀️
@@lilgamergirl7745 LOL. WTF are you talking about? Jews killing Jesus isn't 'an idea'. It is expressly confirmed in the Bible. That is how it went down. It's not an opinion. It's not someone's 'idea'.
@@leodf1 if you pulled the trigger of a gun and I was standing across the street watching you pull the trigger. Would you be the killer or would I be the killer? Romans crusified Jesus. They nailed him on a cross.
There is a huge problem that these Rabis cannot see: Yeshua was a jew and never wanted to create a new religion. All of His followers were jewesh and were kicked out by the others jews. Maybe if the jewish people had not expelled the followers of Yeshua from the synagoges the followers of Yeshua would be part of the judaism as well. Then it brings us to the question again: if Lubavitch can be considered as a messiah to a lot of jews, why Yeshua can not?
Krzysztof Janeczek, not that it matters, but you are mistaken. jesus's genealogy is actually not given by Luke. (or Matthew) It is Joseph's genealogy that is supposedly given. (and whether it is accurate or not is not even the subject, but it isn't accurate anyway) The new test claims that Joseph wasn't jesus's father. Thus it is not even giving his genealogy.
I don't recall Jesus ever claiming to be a Christian. So sad that they use a false claim like that as justification for their disproval of him. But it is what it is...
Whoa the first guy is dead wrong when he said that Jesus denied the unity the Almighty God. Jesus declared the Shema when he speaks to the Jews : hear O' Israel, our Lord God is one. It was the early Christians that twisted the teachings of Jesus to suit their agenda at the Council of Nicaea.
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true. Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth. But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved. He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light. But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. John 5:18, 23, 32-40 KJV bible.com/bible/1/jhn.5.18-40.KJV
I'm puzzled by some of these answers at times being that it is taught that Jesus was a Jew, born then died one. As for denial of the Torah, it's pretty clear that he is told to be well versed in the Torah but is against the establishment and that his fight ended up being with the priests of the temple. Also, no one references the first messiah, Cyrus.... amiright?
He violated the Sabbath in public, practiced black magic, and tried to get his rabbi to look at a beautiful woman that he was attracted to. He took a huge decline later in his life. Fables made up about him convinced people to assume he has some divinity unique to him.
@@morehn I haven't read the Talmud, nor am I Jewish or even Religious to have conviction in saying one the thing is truth over the other but, I was under the assumption that that was not in the same person as the name Yeshua is a s common as... say uh Joshua. Also I had to track down this little bit of wisdom which I look at as middle ground. No one is correct. "Pappos ben Yehuda, is mentioned as being martyred with Rabbi Akiva[6] and is himself mentioned as being among the Pharisees returning to Israel following their persecution by John Hyrcanus,[5] which would place Yeshu's lifetime anywhere between 130 after and 70 years before the birth of Jesus." Let's be reasonable and say... I like ancient history. We can leave it at that.
@@terrence6674 Jesus was alive during the Second Temple period and after its destruction. Yeshu was a common name and there is some debate if he was the same one Christians claim. However, the one that Christians claim is based on misinterpretations and perversions of the original Torah. They base their religion on those misinterpretations, which makes the religion completely moot.
@@terrence6674 you can read some history on wiki en.m.wikipedia. org/wiki/Second_Temple_period#:~:text=The%20era%20from%20roughly%204,from%20within%20Second%20Temple%20Judaism I don't know exactly all the dates, but our tradition is that Christianity developed in connection with the destruction of the Second Temple. The Second Temple was destroyed because of hatred among each other and that is what Christianity stands for.
"Jesus became a Christian" lol. He didn't become one, He FOUNDED Christianity--Christianity didn't exist before His coming. A Christian is a follower of Christ--obviously Our Lord wasn't a follower of Himself, it makes no sense. It's like saying Yahweh was a Jew.
@Abraham Villalobos He is God, the eternally co-existent and consubstantial Second Person of the Trinity, begotten before all worlds, by whom, through whom and for whom all things were created that are.
Corey please make a part two of this video asking christians the same thing, all you’d have to do is reword the title “if jesus can be the messiah then why cant the lubavitcher rebbe?”
Christian here. I would say that christians do not care to deny judaism - Maybe the lubavitcher rebbe is the messiah? I would expect the messiah to return, from the line of Juda and David (Though i do not know the geneology of the lubavitcher rebbe). We just follow Yeshua and his teachings, until his returrn is evident - As lightning strikes from the west to the east, so the return of the messiah shall be evident to all.
@@JezielProdigalSon i wasn’t saying whether the lubavitcher rebbe or jesus was the messiah, i was simply saying that since corey asked the question to chabad-niks he should reverse the question and ask it to christians, also according to your new testament jesus is not descended from David because the messiah has to be descended from the father’s side through David+Solomon BIOLOGICALLY, this was an issue that the earliest christians had with the virgin birth, in fact, the very first Jewish followers of jesus(known as ebionites) didn’t believe in the virgin birth, they believed in the adoptionist theory that jesus wasnt God’s biological son but his adopted son which personally i think makes way more sense than what christians today believe, i myself used to be a christian and saw very big problems with deifying jesus and with the virgin birth and with many other mainstream christian doctrines that didnt come from the Bible but from the council of nicea, in the end i think that the adoptionist theory could be possible but i won’t worry on who the messiah is until he arrives since the Tanakh says that when the messiah arrives no one will be able to deny him, so if the messiah arrives and it’s jesus or if it’s someone else then great, but the main thing to focus on in the here&now is following God’s laws, oh also i dont think that the lubavitcher rebbe could be the messiah at all since he never even claimed the title and his geneology is pretty sketchy in my opinion
They dont study the torah but rabbinic traditions. You dont even need to learn hebrew to see that Jesus is the Messiah. Just look at biblical events. They all point to Jesus.
Great video, was nice to hear so many opinions, especially from a Chabad perpective. Though here in Budapest there are some Lubovitch in my area (a couple of streets), there is zero religious discourse, which I can inderstand due to the horrors of the near-past, but as a curious soul I still find it unfortunate. I realizse from having grown up in NYC that not all sects even WANT to speak to a non-jew, not out of spite but because they see it as pointless/waste of time. I strongly disagree with this, as it serves their best interest to get to know the people in their community (and see it as such), with the local community getting to know thrm and what they feel strongly about in life and their relationship to God. This would be so easy to do and would make life so much nicer by dispelling the fear of the unknown that is inherent in people. Yet instead it is somehow still seen as pious to find and focus on the few things that divide us :/
If the Lubavitch Rebbe can be the Messiah, why can't Jesus? BECAUSE JESUS DONT HAVE SYMBOL OF GODS BECAME FLESH In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God (WORD=SYMBOL)
Relics Malayalam Sad but true. It will be the false prophet they've been warned about in the Torah. The New Testament warns about him also, he will perform lying signs and wonders.
@ellenfrancis67 I guess You dont read the scripture carefully or no Use it as a inhabit. Yeshua Hamashiach had a human father called Yusuf(Maries fiance) and his blod line are all the way from Avraham and King David too(Yesha'yahu7:14, Matthews1:1-17 and Luke1:26-31) .We all know Yeshua got crucifixed as the propechy says Tehillim22:16-18, Yesha'yahu53:3-12 and in New testament Acts13:38,Rom8:3,Mathews27:14, Luke23:9,John1:29,Rom5:6,8, John3:16, Mathews27:38,Luke:4:18-19,Mathews27:57-60 and John5:27. Please give me some scourses in your scriptures why Yashua is not Hamashiach? (only from Nevi'im and Ketuvim not a menmade comments book like Talmud... That is not from Elohim! ) Not your own opinions, because it Equal to 0
@ellenfrancis67 So Yeshua was the son of Yusuf in the full legal sense, because he was adopted when Yusuf married Mariam, and thus Yeshua is also considered to be a legal descendant of King David. You know The tradition in old testament😉. He still is legally and the propechy talked about a Virgin woman right? How can this man so called Lubavitch Rebbe be Ha massiach?
Jesus never claimed to be the son of God nor the god or trinity. He taught ppl the oneness of God and how God was so powerful and believe in one god and don't do sins that's what he taught the rabbis and ppl. the messiah sent by Allah was the word OF TRUTH! and his mother Mary peace be upon her was so righteous why don't ppl believe in Jesus Peace be upon him he literally performed miracles and made ppl ALIVE! how come ppl don't believe in it???!!!! Judaism (WAS) TRUE BUT NOT ANYMORE. Jesus came to make it better but guess when his return will be then he will make everyone a Muslim (submitting their will to god). Who created you then if u have common sense bro you would know if religion and god were true then it's good for believers and even if there was no god it's still ko because nothing will happen to them but to u it's 50/50.
Jesus was a sinner according to Jewish law. He was not perfect. That is why he is not the Messiah. That is the Jewish tradition, although not the Christian faith, obviously. One of the Jewish commentators even mentions that the Messiah awaits in Eden to be called down and bring the Messiah. I think it is Derech Eretz Zuta, for sure the Maharsha in Sanhedrin commentary around daf 97. And yes, the Rebbe is Moshiach.
If the word of God is truth, he will not be an expert of the Torah, but the other way around. For us, the Torah is percieved, the messiah will not percieve, but know. No torah needed.
I'm Torah it is written that machiah is a human being not God. The problem is the invention of Trinity in 3rd century. Judaism believes in Torah not a man made religion of Paul.
we muslims dont believe paul or bible too. but the bible is false they make trinity bur jesus real teaching is not that what they wrote in bible. thats why he is a prophet but christians change his teaching and life and make a new religion this was not the idea of jesus
LOL, the best answer is that if the Lubavitcher Rebbe is Mashiach then by definition it is impossible for jesus to be the Mashiach. After all, how many Mashichim can we have?
Many, as there have been. It's a title. This is the sin of flattering titles and personhood. These clowns are apostates and from the synagogue of the adversary, whether they are Yahoohim or gentile with their corrupted doctrines.
apparently one which appears to be two. One suffers and is rejected and bares the sins of the world, and yet is a light to the gentiles, preparing the way for the ''second'' One, and the one yet to come, who will gather the jewish tribes and establish the true zion and spew out the horrid systems now controlling and manouvering our lives and ''evolution'' where ''they'' want it to go, and we all pay into that horridness. And that first Messiah, in Christ has planted the seeds to prepare the other nations of the Earth for this full blown all encompassing Messiah who shall be seen by all nations, and every knee shall bow! Really should not be an arguement at all. I agree! yeh.
Cyrus the great was also mentioned as the messiah because he freed the Jews and let them return to Israel, also he was the one to rebuild the Temple because God told him. And of course Cyrus the great wasn't a jew either he was a zoroastrian
One of the most ignorant answers given was that Jesus couldn’t be the Messiah because he became a Christian.
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That one struck me also....ha ha....I do wish my Jewish friends would at least attempt to read the 4 Gospels of Christ....then they would learn that Jesus never ever referred to himself as a Christian...in fact Jesus Christ never used the word Christian as it was a word and description that was created after the ministry of Christ on this earth....in fact it was a term created by non believers in Jesus to describe the growing community of believers at that time....indeed the term Christian itself is only used 3 times in the whole New Testament.
That guy was clearly not the guy to ask ANY question, not only this one. You should realize that by yourself
Agree that was real dumb.theyre real sheep !
Not so fast, Stimul. While I agree that as an historical fact Xtianity had not yet developed while J was preaching, the intention of the assertion that he "converted to Xtianity" is a way of saying that he taught principles which are anathema to Judaism and therefore like developing a new religion.
What are those principles? Among many others: "No man may come to the Father but through me." This is a obrogation of one of the most fundamental commandments, that "You shall have no other G-ds before me." Judaism requires keeping kosher, keeping the Sabbath and honoring one's parents. J taught that these commandments dont apply.
So while your observation is corect in only the most narrow sense, taking a more bird's eye view of his approach to Torah does reveal a step toward a new, fundamentally non-Jewish, path.
ha ha ha brilliant!
he whole arguement between all religions is a nonsense and counter productive, and a waste of time. Just look out for folk, and be good for them, and be the light and examople, and stop wasting time with thse dumb arguements. And find entertaining examples like your brilliant discovery that jesus was ''a christian'' ha ha! brilliant!
Rebbe never said he was messiah. He encouraged His coming. The Rebbe was the most righteous in our time. It is understandable some would think of him as messiah. Nontheless. he is someone that set a standard for us to strive to reach.
I'm more RIGHTEOUS.
he set a standard of supremacy and furthered a psychopathic agenda, you gotta know it, and if you don't, now you do
Leah, it really saddens me when I hear Jewish people, or anyone, say things like that.
No one sets our standard but God my dear. The best human that ever lived can only make a poor effort to live up to God's standard. Allowing a human to set your standard is practicing to fail.
So he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy?
Sounds like john the baptist
Surprised to see so many "Orthodox" Jews actually believe Lubavitch is the Messiah
Most of them don't believe in that, but they can't deny absolutely
@yechiel michel piekarski a lot of people agreed they were Moshiach. Shabbtai Tzvi and many more among them. Besides the Rebbe never said such a thing
He sought out a bunch of Lubavitchesrs in this video, so the participants of this video don’t reflect the general orthodox population.
No just some of the lubavitch jews
It’s literally the Mormonism of Judaism.
Dude at 2:29: "Jesus can't be the Messiah...because he became a Christian."
Sorry, but at what point did Jesus ever, EVER become a convert to Christianity? Jesus was a Jew through the span of his adult life. Does anyone really think he'd pray to himself to intercede on his own behalf with God?
I'm not a theological scholar or anything but that's really hard for me to buy into. But it seems to come up again and again with the circles of the orthodox and ultra-orthodox religious Jews who usually have extensive exposure to Talmudic studies or to the opinions of communities who make Talmudic study their primary practice. I have never once heard this position taken by any of my friends or associates who are reform or conservative Jews.
This is very similar to the kind of foolishness I hear from the fundamentalist Christian community when they speak about topics like Dominionism and the Rapture - hot-housed ecumenical idiocy that can manifest in closed religious organizations with strong preconceptions and highly dogmatic interpretations of scripture/text.
It's true, they have no idea what they're talking about.
I know Jesus is not the messiah, because I don't think he is and I am the definition of truth.
as a jew i whole-heartedly agree with this comment
okay so that guy is not so knowledgeable, so what? there are other people in this video
There’s always the same misunderstanding that Jesus was a Christian. The Christian religion wasn’t established/organized until decades after Jesus’ death. Jesus was a Jew
I see that jews are not very educated about christianity... everybody says: he became christian, he is an apostate, he didnt believe in torah etc etc..... well no, Jesus did not become christian, he did not invent christianity.... the people who kept following him after he was crucified called themselves christian.... Jesus´aim was not to create a new faith system... he was a Jew, he was a mesiah and he came to update the faith that was originally in.... the jews denied him and his teachings so for those who wanted to follow his teachings- they had to split from the original jews and create the new one.... jesus was actually very knowledgable about torah... he used to have passionate discussions with rabbis... part of the christian bible is the old testament and the new testament....not just the new testament... the reason why christians did not throw the old testament to trash and just kept the new testament as their new Bible is, that the old testament is important too... it says what was before the messiah came, and the new testament say what was after the messiah came... and Jesus couldnt be an apostate, because he was born and he died as a Jew.. he never said : create a new religion and call it christianity..... it is just what people started calling themselves
"Yoshke Ponkrik" isn't "Jesus in Yiddish", but an insulting name for Jesus Christ in Yiddish. The same applies to "Yeshu" in Hebrew. His Name is Yeshua, Yeshua haMashiah.
1:54 Yeshua didnt deny the Torah, only the rabbinical traditions... similar to Karaite Jews today.
Jews think He did abolish the Torah because let's face it, over 90% of the Christian world has nothing to do with the Torah. All the doctrines (and all of them are FALSE) teach that the Torah was abolished and they only need faith. Of course, they take Paul's references and twist the scriptures to justify it when Paul never meant to, he was referring to those who wanted to be justified by works alone.
@@Caution40404 yea... agree
@@Caution40404 the orthodox and catholic church does not believe this though. We believe in works and faith. Those that are still full flooded hebrew must follow the law of moses. Those that are gentiles don't have to but follow the law of christ which was a gentile version of the law of moses. Good works gives you redemption, Faith gives you victory over death which the messiah was said to do.
thats just as bad, the rabbinical traditions are just as important and part of the torah as the ones explicitly written, if he goes against them he is considered a heretic
Not really. Jesus actually teached tons of rabbinical traditions, especially from Beit Hillel in the Sermon of the Mountain. He had a beef with the Pharisees because he wanted to be recognized by them and saw it wasn't happening, so he started to criticize them and even accusing them of bad faith.
Karaite Jews realized that they also had to develop traditions to fill the gap (since Sola Scriptura is clearly not good enough) and they learned to respect the rabbinical traditions; they just do not follow them, since now they have their own traditions.
As an ahteist who is learning Judaism, this is what I've read :
Jesus cant be accepted by jews because his messianic characteristics don't add up
-The messiah is supposed to bring an era of peace, love, compassions etc, which absolutely didn't happen
-In jewish conceptions, nobody can't be g.od, not even the messiah, neither being the only son of g.od, in the jewish conception of the world, every human is the son of g.od
However, some jewish scholars admited the importance of Jesus (Yeshua or Yehoshoua). Maimonides said that through christianism, g.od have transmited most of the important elements of the message of judaism , you can see christianism as an imported version of judaism just like buddism is with hinduism.
Thank you for sharing the Jewish perspective because it proves that Isaiah prophecy has been fulfilled in that the Messiah (Yeshua) is a Light to the Gentiles. Amen!
elConsciente NY, can you please point out to me the verse that says the Messiah will be a light to the Gentiles. I have read the entire Isaiah and never seen such a verse. In fact I have never even seen the word Messiah in the book of Isaiah. But perhaps you can correct my mistake (if I am making one) and actually show that verse where it says what you claim regarding the Messiah. Oh, and then show me where Isaiah names the Messiah as "Yeshua". I am VERY curious to see that verse for if you can show such a verse you will have done what nobody else in history has done. I anxiously await...
Ha, I detect some sarcasm! All good man, all good. The verses I'm talking about speak of a Servant of God chosen by God to do great things. Here they are:
Isaiah 49:5-6 (NIV):
And now the LORD says --- he who formed me in the womb to be his servant to bring Jacob back to him and gather Israel to himself, for I am honored in the eyes of the LORD and my God has been my strength --- he says: "It is too small a thing for you to be my servant to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept. I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth."
Isaiah 49-7 (NIV):
This is what the Lord says --- the Redeemer and Holy One of Israel --- to him who was despised and abhorred by the nation, to the servant of rulers: "Kings will see you and stand up, princes will see and bow down, because of the Lord, who is faithful, the Holy One of Israel, who has chosen you."
Isaiah 52:13-15 (NIV):
See, my servant will act wisely; he will be raised and lifted up and highly exalted. Just as there were many who were appalled at him --- his appearance was so disfigured beyond human likeness --- so he will sprinkle many nations, and kings will shut their mouths because of him. For what they were not told, they will see, and what they have not heard, they will understand.
Isaiah 51:4-5 (NIV):
"Listen to me, my people; hear me, my nation: Instruction will go out from me; my justice will become a light to the nations. My righteousness draws near speedily, my salvation is on the way, and my arm will bring justice to the nations.
elConsciente NY, you were correct in noting the sarcasm but I feel it is warranted. The claim that jesus is the subject is without any basis & so when somebody seeks to insert jesus into the Passages in Isaiah, it behooves me to point out that this is the farthest thing from Isaiah's intention. Yes, there is a servant of God and that is precisely the point. The servant is not identified as the Messiah and so to insert it as being the Messiah is without merit. In fact the servant IS identified as ISRAEL quite a number of times by God in the book of Isaiah. However in chapter 49:5/6 the person spoken there as being a light to the nations is none other than Isaiah himself. Notice the word "me" is used by the Prophet Isaiah. Btw... I suggest you stop using Christian translations of Hebrew Scriptures. They are faulty to the max. Literally thousands of mistakes are made by them. I have seen this myself because I am a Hebrew speaker. I suggest you use Judaica Press translation & if too expensive (though it can be found online as well on the chabad website which is chabad . org (no spaces) ) you might try ArtScroll Publications. No translation is perfect but these are the best. Btw... I retract my earlier statement that I never saw the word Messiah in Isaiah. I actually did see it once. God in Isaiah refers to His messiah Koresh (Cyrus) in chapter 45:1. I apologize for the mistake.
1) It's my understanding that in Rabbinical writings such as those of Maimonides there is the concept of a "Suffering Servant" as Messiah and a Messiah that would be a light to the nations. So for you to say that the "servant" does not represent the Messiah is an outright OPINION of yours. The passage is up for interpretation, and just by anybody reading it one can sense that this "servant" is destined to do great things. So please save me the "oh you christians twist scripture" argument.
2) Yes the servant is identified as Israel in some passages but then in others the servant is clearly identified as a person. Why would God make that distinction if it was not important, why not just call the servant Israel throughout the whole Book of Isaiah? It is clear that the passages are talking about a person when it speaks of "disfigured face" and so on.
3) I don't know Hebrew so I would appreciate it if you would post YOUR translation for the world to see before stating that the scriptures that I posted were mistranslated. That said I will look into the bible versions mentioned as I am only looking for TRUTH. One day I will take it upon myself to learn Hebrew so I can read the Dead Sea Scrolls myself. It should be noted that the very first Christians were Hebrew speakers like you. They were Jewish like Yeshua so there were no issues of translation. A gentile like myself knows your scriptures because of early believers that took it upon themselves to spread the gospel to the world.
4) The "me" you mentioned has to refer to the spoken SERVANT mentioned throughout Isaiah. I believe it's part of the prophet Isaiah's prophecy because Isaiah was not a light to the nations. The only one who currently fits that description is Yeshua. I have to point out that it's 2018 and Israel is a powerful nation celebrating its 70th anniversary, the tribes of Israel are being restored, and the Hebrew scriptures have travelled the world. Many of the prophecies have been fulfilled.
5) I'm well aware that many Jewish people believed that Cyrus was the coming Messiah in ancient times. Do you think he's the Messiah? If not then who do you think is the Messiah and why? Thanks
And my people perish for lack of knowledge.
Jesus never said he was equal to God - John 14:28
Jesus didn't deny the Torah - Matthew 5:17
Jesus was an expert in the Torah - Luke 2:41-52
Jesus was a Jew - Matthew 1:1-17
Jesus did practice Judaism until his death - Matthew 26:17, Luke 4:17-21
So Jesus isn't the messiah because he was killed... well, so were many other prophets... since when does that disqualify?
Job 14:14 - someone who has died CAN live again
I could continue, but I think I've proven my point, no need to continue
There are plenty of vague statements made by Jesus making your claims very complicated.
MrEVAQ Like? I haven't really made a statement though, I've just responded to the inaccuracies stated in this video.
Jesus claims to be the first and the last, a statement used by God in the bible to affirm his divinity. The metaphorical description of Jesus in the first chapter of Revelations matches that of God in the book of Daniel. There are plenty of places where Jesus alludes to himself being divine, which is in starkly ironic to Old Testament teachings.
You're going to have to quote scriptures so I can refer to them. Rev 1:8 says "I am the Alpha and the Omega", says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."
"Almighty" refers to God, not Jesus, as Jesus does not have complete power, but only that which God has given him.
In Revelations 22:14 the same statement of the alpha and omega is repeated, and in Revelations 22:16 it is revealed that Jesus is the one speaking, so there seems to be some implicit references by Jesus himself to being divine.
In Revelations 1:14 " The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow", while in Daniel 7:9 "His clothing was as white as snow; the hair of his head was white like wool."
There are some clear parallels. Jesus is claiming to be God.
Isaiah 53
1 Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
3 He was despised and rejected by mankind,
a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.
4 Surely he took up our pain
and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to our own way;
and the Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
8 By oppression[a] and judgment he was taken away.
Yet who of his generation protested?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was punished.[b]
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the Lord makes[c] his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
11 After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life[d] and be satisfied[e];
by his knowledge[f] my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,[g]
and he will divide the spoils with the strong,[h]
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.
N vd Plas Isaiah 53... 1Who would have believed our report, and to whom was the arm of the Lord revealed? 2And he came up like a sapling before it, and like a root from dry ground, he had neither form nor comeliness; and we saw him that he had no appearance. Now shall we desire him? 3Despised and rejected by men, a man of pains and accustomed to illness, and as one who hides his face from us, despised and we held him of no account. 4Indeed, he bore our illnesses, and our pains-he carried them, yet we accounted him as plagued, smitten by God and oppressed. 5But he was pained because of our transgressions, crushed because of our iniquities; the chastisement of our welfare was upon him, and with his wound we were healed. 6We all went astray like sheep, we have turned, each one on his way, and the Lord accepted his prayers for the iniquity of all of us. 7He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he would not open his mouth; like a lamb to the slaughter he would be brought, and like a ewe that is mute before her shearers, and he would not open his mouth. 8From imprisonment and from judgment he is taken, and his generation who shall tell? For he was cut off from the land of the living; because of the transgression of my people, a plague befell them. 9And he gave his grave to the wicked, and to the wealthy with his kinds of deaths, because he committed no violence, and there was no deceit in his mouth. 10And the Lord wished to crush him, He made him ill; if his soul makes itself restitution, he shall see children, he shall prolong his days, and God's purpose shall prosper in his hand. 11From the toil of his soul he would see, he would be satisfied; with his knowledge My servant would vindicate the just for many, and their iniquities he would bear. 12Therefore, I will allot him a portion in public, and with the strong he shall share plunder, because he poured out his soul to death, and with transgressors he was counted; and he bore the sin of many, and interceded for the transgressors. Note the contrast in translations. Then look at the following and note the context... 15So shall he cast down many nations; kings shall shut their mouths because of him, for, what had not been told them they saw, and [at] what they had not heard they gazed. This last verse here is verse 15 from chapter 52 which provides the context for chapter 53. The kings of the nations are speaking in Isaiah 53 all the way till verse 10.
ellenfrancis67, you could also question her as to how she would derive jesus from 'he was assigned a grave with the wicked'. After all, according to the new test wasn't jesus assigned a grave with the rich? His death was with the wicked according to the new test. Yet her version of Isaiah says the precise opposite. That the death was with the rich. So it turns out that her version of Isaiah 53 is the exact OPPOSITE of the jesus story here. P.S. ויתן means and he gave. :-) (you forgot the 'and')
ellenfrancis67, they probably have nothing to say about this because they probably have not really internalized what they read. Christians unfortunately have been dumbed down. I don't mean this as an insult to them. It is simply that this is how they have been taught to think. In fact they have been taught not to think. They have been taught to accept what they are told face value. If they actually truly looked for themselves they would clearly see the internal contradictions of their theology.
Note how what Isaiah 53 says about the death and burial is the exact opposite (as I pointed out previously) of the way jesus is portrayed yet Christians insist on pointing to jesus as the subject. Had they actually used their brain to think about it, they would right away realize the fact that it is the exact opposite of the jesus story.
I will point out another thing for you. If you look at John chapter 3 verse 13 you will note that he quotes jesus as saying "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven." But this clearly stands in contradiction of God's word in 2nd Kings chapter 2 verse 11 which states "And it was that they were going, walking and talking, and behold a fiery chariot and fiery horses, and they separated them both. And Elijah ascended to heaven in a whirlwind."
These are the things Christians are never taught to notice. They just accept things at face value as to what the new test teaches. & then they add on their own commentary which also ends up for the most part contradicting what God says in Tanach. (such as the verse here in Isaiah 53 we are discussing)
P.S. You're welcome. (on your other post for the thank you)
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@ellenfrancis67 all' christians are Jesus offspring,as jews and all mankind if you allow me to say so is Abraham descendant. Have a nice day.
Jesus can't be the Messiah "because he became a Christian." 🤔😅
Jews will never accept anyone as a Messiah lol
@@POTATOSOOPS they will accept the Antichrist
how could Jesus become a christian when being a christian means to follow the Christ which Christians believe Jesus is. also He never denied the Torah. in fact he affirmed it.
As an israeli i laughed here😭😅
@@jesusflores7099 being a Christian means to follow Paul’s corrupted religion. Jesus never said I’m the God, worship me.
The messiah had to have entered into the second temple. As the temple of Herod the Great doesn't exist anymore, no one in this or the next generations can be the messiah
The Antichrist can and will enter the third one.
Yes, and we know who entered the second temple!😂
Romans 11: 25 Some of the people of Israel have hard hearts, but this will last only until the full number of Gentiles comes to Christ. And so all Israel will be saved. Amen!
Neither of them can be the messiah, because I am. I will be setting up a web page for donations shortly.
lol
Sign me in.
Jesus never claimed to be the son of God nor the god or trinity. He taught ppl the oneness of God and how God was so powerful and believe in one god and don't do sins that's what he taught the rabbis and ppl. the messiah sent by Allah was the word OF TRUTH! and his mother Mary peace be upon her was so righteous why don't ppl believe in Jesus Peace be upon him he literally performed miracles and made ppl ALIVE! how come ppl don't believe in it???!!!! Judaism (WAS) TRUE BUT NOT ANYMORE. Jesus came to make it better but guess when his return will be then he will make everyone a Muslim (submitting their will to god). SO SHUT UP YOU ARENT THE MESSIAH!!!!!
@@hink3630 W3 literally said that God and I are One.
@@SlyTF1 In Spirit! but not in Person! Moshe was like God for Pharao! And Moshe wrote about Yeshua !
Jesus was son of David,
Jesus was born a Jew,
Jesus didn't abolish the Torah,
Jesus didn't associated anything with God,
Jesus was pure monotheist,
Jesus was the Messiah.
Most of the people you has asked are ignorant they don't know their religion, if you ask learned man then they might know but they will conceal, the same they did with Muhammad.
As said in the Qur'an:
"Those to whom We gave the Scripture know him as they know their own sons. But indeed, a party of them conceal the truth while they know [it]. The truth is from your Lord, so never be among the doubters." (Q 2:146)
אלה אשר נתנו להם את הספר מכירים אותו כפי שמכירים את בניכם
(2:146 סורת אלבקרה)
Son of David? But he is the Son of God!!! So he cannot be the son of a man!!!
He abolished the sacrifices in the Temple , ordered by God.
He associâted his person( the Son) with God ( the Father).And the Holy Spirit to make the Trinity.
Yes if he is the Messiah, then He is the Son of God, have you not read Psalms 2??? Its not feom Christians that it is speaking of the Messiah, it is from ancient Jewish sources that the Messiah is the begotten Son of God!! I pray you are Christian today, AMEN❤@@malka7708
@@malka7708Jesus know nothing about ur trinity !
"I'm their boss,I don't want you to interview them"
Since when can a boss decide that? Lol he doesn't own them
It's a bit of a mistranslation. While that word could be translated to boss in some contexts. In this specific context, he was saying that he is their principal/dean. (Not sure how much better that makes it)
1. Jesus was a Jew. He never changed that.
2. He followed the Torah and all the teachings. He quoted the Torah all the time. He kept the Sabbath.
Jesus was and is the king
Idk why jews don t recognize and hope for someone to come again. Nobody will come.
IT’S not Yeshu It’s YESHUA HAMASHIA HE WAS RESURRECTED 3 DAS THEY CRUCIFIED HIM . 512 Jewish people witnessed 50 days after HE RESURRECTED ON THE MOUNT OF OLIVES you call this place mount of SION WHEN HE ENTER TO HEVEN.
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Dude, that’s bullshit
you don't know anything our country people languages deferent they called yeshu yeshwa Jesus is same name
The Messiah is not a popularity contest , it is a man who fulfills the mission of gathering all the 12 tribes to Israel , builds the Holy temple , is victorious in the war of GOD, and leads alll the nations to peace and truth in knowing GOD as ONE .
It is a pageant.
God Himself came into His creation to pay the penalty of sin. God Himself took on flesh and paid the ransom for many so they can have eternal life but only if they believe in Him Yeshua! Read Gospel of John and see who the Messiah is!
None of what you said is in the Bible it was just stated by rabbis centuries after Jesus as a reason for their disbelief
@@SonicSega0964 actually it is all in the Bible. Yeshua has to do it during his second coming.
@wesley8173 very true
The rambam tells us why Jesus can't be moshiach - because he doesn't have any qualities to be moshiach. On the contrary when we consider the qualities which make moshiach we realize he is the anthesis of moshiach. The defining characteristic of moshiach is that he brings Jewish people back together and closer to God and His Torah and in the words of the rambam "has anyone done more harm in driving the Jewish people away from God, than Jesus?"
Rebbe Yeshua miNetzaret was a young 1st century CE Romaniote Hillelite of the Holy Land whose biography and teachings are recorded in Romaniote literature of the same century. His disciples (Simon Clopas and others) were sent to deal with his nephew Plony Yeshu HaNotzri Ben Stada' followers by Herod Agrippa II's Sanhedrin during the reign of Helen of Adiabene. From the early 4th century onwards, Rome made it illegal for Romaniotes to teach anything about their Rebbe. Nevertheless, a Hebrew record of his Biography and teachings known as Hebrew Matityahu has still survived into the present along with a handful of oblique references to him in Jewish tradition. He is not to be confused with his nephew Plony Yeshu HaNotzri Ben Stada.
Well here you see that the Jews dont know about Jesus and what he teaches.
In short: Jesus said the Torah is good and true
He attacked the priests for their believe in traditions
And told them they have to back to the Torah only.
He was never a Christian or teached christianity
He teached the Torah
Jesus taught a new sermon, literally and figuratively. He created a new church in His name after the denial of His divinity by the Jews
This is both hilarious and sad to see. Reminds me exactly of Hosea 2- where the Israelites abandon God for sake of material well being as this rabi “messiah” provided - the sad part is how they are almost deliberately kept in ignorance about Jesus, his teachings, the New Covenant and the role and history of the church in the world. we are blessed that we worship a merciful God however. Jesus is King. OneforIsrael.org
It's just one particular sect within Hassidic Judaism that believes this, albeit an extremely influential and growing sect. (They are growing both in terms of having many children and through their outreach activity among non-observant Jews.)
M Benyossef ya and you know what other extremely influential Jewish sect took over the world but actually fulfilled the Torah, Psalms and the prophets - Christianity :)
Well, that's what Christians believe.
It actually was a pretty minor Jewish sect originally.
It changed after Paul let in non-Jews without requiring that they first undergo conversion to Judaism, and once Emperor Constantine became Christian, it became kind of a big deal. But Lubavitch (Chabad) , contrary to some Jewish critics who say it will develop into another religion like Christianity, isn't interested in bringing in non-Jews. Any non-Jews who become Chabad/Lubavitch first undergo rigorous conversion to Orthodox Judaism, but not because Chabad missionizes among them.
M Benyossef yes i am well versed in church history, also I’m from Jordan/Palestine, so my ancestors were quite literally the first Christians in the world and the development of the sect into a world religion is well documented in our monasteries and holy cites. And as a matter of fact Christianity was already quite big deal before Constantine became Christian and the number of saints and martyrs and underground churches attests to that. I also think it’s quite clear in the Hebrew Scriptures that the Messiah is supposed to bring in the nations and that the new covenant would be distinct from the Old and worship would be in Truth and Spirit. This would not be possible without solving the problem of the rebellious human heart- which only through the Love of God through Christ can truly be amended “heart of stone vs. heart of flesh”. I would be very suspicious of a “Messiah” that cared not for humanity and only for the Jewish people/religion - that would make the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob the god of Israel alone and not the One True God, creator of heaven and earth.
Well, although I was raised in a religious Jewish home, I'm an agnostic now and I lean more towards atheism (Thank God!).
Yes, Christianity was growing before Constantine, but it was first one of many competing Jewish sects and then after Paul allowed Gentiles in, it was just one of many Oriental cults in the Roman Empire. Jewish teaching lays out a number of necessary conditions for the Messiah to fulfill, including ingathering the Jews in their homeland, ending all wars, rebuilding the Temple, etc.
Traditional Jewish eschatology teaches that when the 3rd Temple is rebuilt and all the Jews of the world are restored to their homeland (not in the way that so many Jews live in the State of Israel today), the world will be restored to its rightful order and things will be better for all humanity.
At any rate, neither the late Lubavitcher Rebbe nor the dude from Nazareth fulfilled these conditions. (As far as I'm concerned this is all nonsense.)
Jesus came to earth to fulfill the torah prophecies, did no wrong yet he was crucified on the cross for all sinners and rose again the third day after he was buried.
Accept Jesus Christs free gift of salvation. Reach and take of the tree of life, Jesus paved the path.
THE FALSE MESSIAH= jesus.
Jesus is a myth...
@@joelweiner4798 shhhhh dont tell them that you will ruin the Christmas shopping season svige
Clerical Orthodox Fascist you must receive Jesus Christ not religion my friend
tranceman22 there is more historical evidence of Jesus than any other person of that time at least 10 historical writings talk about Jesus and described as the bible did so you have been misinformed even the biggest atheist dont deny he lived and most agree something happened that caused many to believe he rose they recently found a temple from the year 100-200 it has arameic writings saying yeshua is the comforter the king so check out the facts cold case christianity is a good site as welll as ravi zacharias frank turek wrote i dont have enough faith to be an atheist it hasthe i historical facts God bless you
An excellent question.
1. The Rebbe never claimed to be God or the son of God. Nor did his followers... ever.
2. Neither he or his followers never claimed that anyone who does not believe in him will burn in hell as followers of the catholic church believe.
3. Even if it turns out that he is not the Messiah... this does not change anything in the value of what he taught.... If Jesus would turn out to be a fraud... all christianity will collapse.
good point
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Jesus never claimed to be God he claimed to be the messiah. his followers claimed that he was the messiah who was of a divine nature who revealed God nature to his people, he fulfilled the checklist all the prophets said the messiah would do. hell was a roman perversion to conquer the goths and surrounding area's. later on Yeshua became God and the trinity was defined when the trinity was supposed to be a transcendent mystery of how God and the messiah work it was never to be defined. the messiah is supposed to reveal divine truth to his people and solve problems of humanity that no one has solved yet. the messiah is a concept that is transcendent and no man can truly achieve. people can only follow the way of the messiah. what is the way of the messiah? ill give a parable. a man or woman, works day and night grinding the bone trying every solution suffering every failure in order to find the cure to cancer. day and night the person works even tho they might not find it they keep trying, well one day after an ubsurd amount of effort blood sweat and tears. they find the cure, then a man in a suit appears and tell them if they bury the secret cure they will give them riches, woman, and wealth, because they have made a profit off the problem remaining in the world. the person refuses the man in the suit. it is clear tho if they release the cure to cancer they might and probably will perish a horrible death. but regardless they publish the cure anyways even if it does kill them... WHY??? love... thats the only reason why and the only answer..love. these people are the ones who will save the world and make it better. only those people who fit that allegory. no politician who say a bunch of empty promises. or a revolutionary who says change the world by force just do the same bullshit but different people in charge. one set of people move the world forward and in a better place. the others move the world in circles wasting time and ruining lives.
@Forever Learning what does the Tanack say about the messiah? and one of the qualifications for being the messiah was having lineage of king David which both his mother mother and father Joseph had. so you cant say he didn't fulfill any of the requirements.
@Forever Learning regardless Mary is still lineage of David and he was adopted by Joseph. so regardless he still has king David's lineage. so that's still a qualification of the messiah.
Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.🙏
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@@keithevans9544 yeah Americans XD
Repent of your sins and believe in the Lord Jesus, he is the only one who can save you .
the guy at 9:40 is wrong about one thing...the Rebbe spoke like 7 or 8 languages, including Hebrew. but he never came to Israel.
I think he knew just six languages well. (Maybe he could get by in some others.)
Yiddish was his first language, then he knew Russian because of growing up in Russia and the USSR, German from his time in Berlin and its closeness to Yiddish, French from his time in Paris, English from the USA, and he knew rabbinical Hebrew, which he spoke with an Ashkenazi/Yiddish accent. He was in Warsaw for a bit too, maybe he spoke some Polish.
@Secret Service
Never heard that the Rebbe knew Spanish. Maybe he could read, but not speak it? I've seen video clips of him speaking all the other languages I mentioned, and there are lots of Habad hassidim in Latin America who speak Spanish, but I've never seen any clips of him speaking to them in Spanish by dollars or anything like that. Not saying you're wrong, and that I'm such an expert, just that j'd expect there to be audio/video of him speaking it if he knew it so well.
@Secret Service
Okay, could be, I just never heard of him speaking Spanish, and never saw or heard any video or audio of him speaking Spanish. By the way, I was actually by dollars myself (I'm that old) and I seem to remember people from Argentina (probably) on line with me, but don't know if the Rebbe spoke to them.
Also, by the way, he spells it "Steinsaltz" in English.
@@guywhousesapseudonymonyout4272 Italian etc
nechemia Vogel To my knowledge the Rebbe didn't know Italian or Spanish fluently. He may have been able to read and comprehend and have simple conversations in those languages. There are lots of videos of him speaking in French, Russian, Hebrew, Yiddish and English to people who spoke those languages, and I know he spoke all those languages well. I was by Sunday dollars once and on the line with me were people from Argentina who were speaking Spanish. I don't remember them speaking in Spanish with the Rebbe, although maybe they spoke with him in Hebrew or Yiddish? (Or ,maybe they didn't say anything, I really didn't have any conversation with him.) But it's one thing to be able to read and speak "ah bissele" anpther thing to know fluently.
People are blinded by religion lies, Yeshua never refused His hebrew roots, He born, raise and served as a Jew, period!
True, but you guys refuse his Jewish roots every day by worshiping him. You don’t keep kosher, you don’t circumcise, you don’t live by the Thora nor do you live by the noachite law. I can’t even call you part of the Abrahamic faiths due to your mixture with western pagan religions.
@@nabil5535 I understand what do you mean, but If you know Yeshua and Torah is writen in your heart, some things have no matter, for example keeping man made traditions, which YeHoVaH never asked or comanded to do. We are not cristians, we keep Shabbat, YeHoVaH feasts, not eating pork, we are hebrew now, not pagans any more. All our life and duty is to serve YeHoVaH Elohim, El Shaddai of Ysrael, Elohim of Avraam, Yaakov and Ytzhak. Yes we are not perfect, but we have His mercy trough Yeshua HaMashich blood, to be added to the Ysrael house. Blessings to you brother and may YeHoVaH Kadosh one of Ysrael bless you and your house!
@@nabil5535 FYI ruclips.net/video/cUMmbwl3Org/видео.html
@@nabil5535 Christians believe in the New Convenant brought by Jesus, which is why we do not have to be circumcised, or keep kosher. We do live by Torah and noahide laws, and the sabbeth is still saturday. We do not mix western pagan religions only Islam is mixed with paganism. Christianity is a true continuation of second temple judaism, Rabbanic judaism is false.
HOW CAN ALL THESE PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT A MESSENGER FROM GOD WILL ACT IN A POLITICAL WAY - GOD IS PURE SPIRIT, SO THE MESSENGER OF GOD WILL HANDLE THE SPIRITUAL DIMENSION, AS JESUS DID !!
shabrour every prophet acted in a political way. Every single one. God Himself acts and talks about the nations all the time!!
Jesus never denied the Torah. He came to confirm it. He denied the false modified writings from the rabbis called the Talmud…
When the Lubavitcher mentor didn't want the young-uns to answer the question...Lol, was that a sign that he is a Meshichist? 🙃🤔
Corey, please ask: If Goldilocks is real, why can't Snow-White be real too?
(Sane Israeli here.)
😂I agree
You're so smart for figuring out we really evolved from rocks
Both of those guys were real (at least we know for a fact Schneerson was). Whether they were the messiah is questionable, but they’re real figures
@@sylph8005 My point was that the concept of the Messiah is as imaginary as Goldilocks or Snow White.
These people are ignorant.
progresive Jews are not so brainwashed as some of these interviewees ,and are more likely to have the gift of discernment
If Jesus is not the Messiah, a person who's most important value was LOVE and RESPECT over anything else and dies for your sins and as the Bible says treats women right, poor people,...and talks about a God who loves and forgives and not a God who you have to fear and that you have to follow 9000 rules as the Torah says then I don't know who are y'all waiting for...
Yeshua never denied the Torah he fullfiled the Torah,but he denied the TALMUD! THEY Torah!
Talmud was written by some rabbis, who modified anything as they wanted…
you have gotta be the most ignorant person I've ever met, look in the talmud for a bit before you go yapping utter nonsense about what it is@@nurousek123
This people are ignorant. Yeshua was no Christian, he was Jew. Yeshua never denied Torah, he teached people to follow Torah and not Talmud. He teached people to follow the law. Christianityis invented after Jesus and by Romans, before that Yeshua's followers were sect in Judaism.
Jesus did not become a Christian. The word Christian comes from his name as Christ.
Jesus was a Jew and always will be. Christianity was not even used to describe followers of Jesus until the First Century. He was a Jew and he taught the Torah and spoke the Torah. He never denied the Torah either. Maybe if these Jews would read the New Testament they would know this. Jesus did not change the laws of God, he fulfilled the law.
Beautiful.
And yes cristianity was created by romans our enemies. We are desciples of Yeshua HaMashiach!
it breaks my heart how much confusion and misunderstanding..
If that is true, then pray.
@@someman7 thank you for reminding me 🙏
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@@shirahsheartbeats Amen, as it is God who calls, so it is He who melts hearts and changes minds and heals bodies. Peace be with you :)
@@someman7 true. in the same time..all are called. as it is written.."when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself" we are all called to an amazing calling..but not all have their veil off. and this indeed seems to be His..purposes. thank you for reminding me to see everything in perspective..
But Jesus didnt deny the Tora
6:33 man you need to start thinking for yourself and not believing everything what is written. It is not about religion, it is not about Messiahs and Prophets, it's about love for our fellow men, being spiritual and discovering the truth for ourselves.
Yeshua was confronting religious people, as the didn't follow Yehovah law, but created traditions and kept them.
so, some dude I've never heard of could be The Messiah, but not Jesus? Strange.
keep believing in a false messiah, troll urass.
I'm not with that the comment above wrote, but that is the point.
According to jewdism the Messiah could be anyone, like Moses was only guardian some sheep and he became the leader of Israel, like King David who was the weakest among his brothers (he lived in a poor village) he was chosen to be the king of Israel, like shaul who became the king of Israel after he tried to help his father take his injured donkey upon him from Jerusalem to his village.
We've seen it throughout the Torah. And I believe that the Messiah could be anyone. Jesus has denied the Torah, caused a huge division in Judea and took advantage of rabbais to teach him magic so he could carry more people through his way.
Funny thing is when you compare Moses and Jesus, Moses was shepherd, Jesus was a salesman after being a carpenter.
Like I said, the Messiah could be anyone. But not one who denies the Torah and causing the nation to fight against itself
Jesus is not a stranger to you? Do you know jesus? Do you know jesus even existed?no you dont.
Jesus is dead.
Sue Shi facts
Let us ALL INCREASE IN ACTS OF GOODNESS WITH KINDNESS!
We have to be very careful not to idolize someone to the point of claiming they are the Messiah, when they don’t meet all the criteria of the Messiah. I think the Lubavitcher Rebbe was a very righteous individual. He did so much good, perhaps more so than anybody else in our generation, but that doesn’t mean that he hast to be the Messiah. If anything, he is helped pave the way for the Messiah. When we stoop to saying that, because he was a righteous person, he could be the Messiah, we’re falling into the same trap that Christians fell into with their deity. The Lubavitcher Rebbe was a giant among us. But he wasn’t Messiah.
Are you a prophet to affirm that ?
Jesus was the messiah in every way you can see. He spoke the truth did miracles and ascended to the Father. He was the incarnation of God. God doesn't have a form he's not a man like people imagine him to be. Jesus is the human form of God. Which ancient people had trouble understanding. Throughout old testament God has been giving instructions to the Jews to live a certain way but they failed to do so even like they do now. So he came in the form of a human just to show how it should be done. He challenged the corrupt Jewish preists even calling them hypocrites. Which is why he is villainized by the jews. Even the Romans found no fault with him when they crucified him. Demons feared him. Tell me one jewish leader that the demons fear now. Up until Jesus Christ every prophet in the old testament was from God. After his resurrection every one that followed was what the Bible says beware of wolves in Sheep's clothing. Don't believe me look at the markets controlled by the jews. Rothschilds, etc. You name it. Just like how the Messiah (Jesus Christ) came from the Jews the same way the anti‐christ (Satan's son) will come from the Jews as well
@@reALBOdmonjohnsON The Father is God and He is ONE and He is UNIQUE! All the men in this World are the Sons of God.God is not a man and He cannot be born of a woman( that He created, )it is an aberration.Gd does not incarnate, because it becomes idolatry : We pray in front of a stone image that We call God!When you say Jesus is the Son and God His Father, you believe in two Gods, and with the « Holy Spirit « that makes three !!! The trinity.
When Moses received the Tables of the Law, on the Mount Sinaï, millions of people, including the surrounding Nations, heard the Mighty Voice of Gd who proclaimed: » I Am The Lord your God….you will not have other God but Me….you shall not make yourself gods of stone… »
And every day, we proclaim aloud , in morning and evening player: » Listen Israël, THE LORD is our GOD, THE LORD is ONE! »
You say that Jesus came to show us the Right Way.Okay I agree.So,why don’t you follow his example?
He wascircumcised a-t-il 8 days old. He ate Kosher food’he observed the Shabbat, he prayed in Hebrew and not in Latin( latin was the language of the pagan Romans who crucified him and his disciples.)
The Messiah is a Man ( not a Gd) born of a man and a woman of flesh and bones.He descends from the Line of KING David( who is a man , it seems to me.)
About the » antechrist »,it is a pure invention of the Christians to discredit the Moshia’h of the Jews, When strong signs will announce him.
Finally, Jews didn’t make massacres or genocides in the name of G-d.
The Moshia’h is a Liberator for all mankind and all the Righteous of the Nations will have their share of the Future World.
he certainly wasn't "The messiah" but i think there's an argument to be made that he was a messiah in the same way that Cyrus the Great was also a messiah, in the traditional sense of the word
I see some similarities between this Rebbe and Jesus in the way their followers idolize them. Originally the Jesus movement merely recognized Jesus as a human man, a jew who they thought to be the Messiah. After his death, they then experienced visions of a resurrected Jesus or hallucinations of him if you don't believe in his resurrection. They also found an empty tomb. Jesus's body was most likely removed by Roman soldiers from the tomb but these Jesus followers so desperately wanted him to be the messiah, they concluded that an empty tomb could only mean a resurrection. Since they thought him to have resurrected, they went to the Tanakh and interpreted it as a prediction of Jesus and claimed that Jesus would return as Messiah. But they did not claim he was a god, at least not yet only a messiah, because the Jesus' followers were still orthodox Jews who adhered to the strict monotheism. We see this in three books of the Christian bible , Mark, Mathew and Luke who label Jesus as Messiah but not God. Here, in the case of the Lubavitch Rebbe, we have followers who claim that even though the Rebbe died, he will return as messiah and there are others who believe that he is still alive at 770 eastern parkway and is remaining hidden. Despite the fact that we have video and thousands of witnesses of him going into the ground. So this parallels the early stage of the Jesus movement in that they refuse to accept the death of their Rebbe. However as we all know, some 30 to 40 years after his death, two followers of Jesus, named Paul and John began to claim that Jesus was a manifestation of God himself, God living on earth, making no distinction between Jesus and God. They claimed Jesus followers did not need to follow all of Torah and Jewish Law. They split the Jesus movement in two and were in opposition to James, a brother of Jesus who led the original sect of the Jesus movement, who adhered to Jewish law and refused to call Jesus God. These followers of Paul and John called themselves Christians. The original Jesus followers called themselves Ebionites and were eventually killed, banned, and eradicated by Roman Christian emperors a few centuries later. The Ebionites were like the Lubavitcher Chabadniks today, an Orthodox Jewish movement that claimed a dead man as a messiah who will return in resurrected form. The question is will they eventually start to claim that this Rebbe is divine and even somehow God? Could they even reject Torah as some early Christians did. If Christianity is a good example of this, in a century or so Chabad may be it's own religion completely separate from Judaism.
Only Lubavitch believes that Rabbi Shneerson ע"ה, could be the messiah, and could somehow still be alive. Furthermore, they are the only sect of seemingly Orthodox Jews who believe in the concept of a second coming.
Just want to be clear, whatever Orthodox-looking people say in this video in favor of "the Rebbe" being a or the messiah is not representative of mainstream, normative Judaism.
Ty, I'll correct that and my grammar errors from before :)
Okay, I'll delete my comment!
99% right expect the real orthodox would not call him rabbi. he was a man who went to university then tried to bring it in to his cult!
maybe your messiah went to university but mine will be holy from when he is born
I find it very interesting that they believe in a "second coming." Would you be kind enough to provide information as to how they arrived at that concept? Thanks in advance!
I did a donation. Thanks for your channel, is really good!
There is so much bat-shit crazy flowing in this video that it's hard to keep up with.
@Mister Privacy And get nailed to a cross? Nope. That was the first time. Next time round is no more mr nice guy. ""Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."
@@leodf1 Simple question, what did you understand in the phrase you quoted? A sword on whom??
@@Caution40404 It means that whoever follows Jesus will not have peace but will be prosecuted.
@@kiyenmoodley7013 True!
@@Caution40404 and its symbolic of his return in book of revelation with his sword being his mouth and trodding the winepress (blood of the nations)
If you say he is the “ son of god” how is he from David dynasty , tribal lineage is paternal
From his mother's side ,hah ?
Maryam bent Amran,
And jesus never said he was divine or son of god ,that is why people believed him and the jews tribes were divided on him at that time and the christianity arised and prevailed all until the church falsely claimed him son of god .
@@hashemsaad4850 interesting.
@@hashemsaad4850 Jesus did say he was the Son of God, that's the main reason why he was executed. And both of Jesus' lineages related in the New Testament are Davidic. He is also by far the only Jew in History to clearly and undeniably fulfill the prophecy of bringing all the nations to the worship of the God of Israel.
@@leandronc God never let one of his messengers get executed or murdered, he always protected them against the odds even with miracles ,why would jesus be execluded from that mercy ?
Cause he is the only son of god??
Would it be possible that he saved him before that to let him be execuded by the hands of who opposed him ?
Was that prophecy fulfilled during his time or 100's of years after his time and under christianity flag not Judaism ?
What i want to say is that i believe that god all mercfull sent mankind several messengers through time call it Judaism, Christianity or Islam
But the messages were the same there is only one god that we will all return to one day.
@@hashemsaad4850 Jesus died for our sins. I agree the prophets speak of returning to God (Amos 4:12). God's judgement is also a clear message in His Word (Daniel 12:2). And so is the fact that nobody managed to uphold His law (Psalm 14:1-3), which is why Jesus came as the perfect sacrifice (Hebrews 10:11-14). But Jesus is now exalted at God's right hand, as per Philippians 2:5-11, fulfilling messianic Psalm 110.
"Do not touch My anointed ones, and do not harm My prophets." (אַל־תִּגְּע֥וּ בִמְשִׁיחָ֑י וְלִנְבִיאַ֥י אַל־תָּרֵֽעוּ:), psalms 105:15
Speaking of Israel, all of Israel are Moshiacs. The difference being that Jesu claimed he was a divine partner with G-d which is idolatry.
Read Isaiah 53 which was prophesied hundreds of years before Jesus birth. It most definitely speaks of Jesus
Im shocked about the guy who said that if they believe that Schneerson is the messiah, or better said that he will return as Messiah. It's like he's saying "Sorry God, we dont care what you want - what your goal is. We just want it our way and you will serve us." The man is dead, leave him to rest.
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His name is Rabbi Shnuerson
Isaiah 53 was traditionally interpreted as referring to one person, often the Messiah. In that case, the suffering servant can only be Yeshu/Jesus. Zechariah 9:9 and Daniel 7:13 also make clear the 1st and 2nd coming of the Messiah, in line with Talmudic interpretation (b. Sanh. 98a).
1st Yeshu was a mythological character and 2nd even by the story in the NT Yeshu never fulfilled the requirements to be a Jewish Messiah but he is a messiah to idol worshipers.
@Mariamne DaMotta The whole mythological story about your god has nothing to do with Judaism but is just another fable from mythology.
@@Rajul_Jamil There is more historical evidence for Jesus than there is for any other ancient person. Do you think Alexander the great existed? how about Julius Caesar?..
I pray that you take an honest look. You will find the truth if you seek it.
@@Rajul_Jamilif you’re still alive look up Ariel cohen
Neither one was the Moshiach. The Messiah has to accomplish the prophecies in the Tanack before he can be.
The Lubavitcher Rebbe had more political influence and adherents than Jesus... LMFAO
Exactly, I didn’t even know who the man was until this vid. I bet he is famous but not to people outside of israel
It’s funny because no one outside of lubavitcher Jews know who he is.
Jesus didn't become a Christian, His followers were called Christians because He Is the Christ! And all these people will bow down on their knees soon and will profess Him as Lord with their own lips! And not just them, but every single person on the planet! He is God, and He made an impact on the whole world, because He is God!!
Big surprise when Moshiach wont be who and what they expect lol
Yeshua never denied the Torah. May they break free of the Rabinic teachings
Messiah has to be born in Bethlehem according to Prophet Micah (5:2), not in Ukraine dear..
Yeshua did teach Torah. And he didn't become a Christian. Christianity, as we know it today, has its origins in Roman Catholicism which seems to have come from the writings attributed to Paul. Those teachings have nothing to do with Yeshua's teachings.
God to Ezekiel - They won't listen to you because they don't listen to me.
Jesus-
"If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.
Jesus was never Christian.
Jesus truly is the christ the messiah I wish people could open there hearts and feel it
yes the messiah sent by Allah and his mother Mary peace be upon her was so righteous why don't ppl believe in Jesus Peace be upon him he literally performed miracles and made ppl ALIVE! how come ppl don't believe in it???!!!! Judaism (WAS) TRUE BUT NOT ANYMORE. Jesus came to make it better but guess when his return will be then he will make everyone a Muslim (submitting their will to god).
How on earth did Jesus become a Christian. Oh my days. They do understand that Christianity wasn’t a religion. Jesus was the Jewish messiah he was Jewish. Followers of Jesus were called Jews and was classed as a sect of Judaism and it wasn’t until later that we were given the name Christian which means followers/believers of the Messiah the Christ means messiah. What have they been keeping hidden from these people. Seriously.
None of them is the Messiah who, according to tradition, would bring peace to the world.
@David Miles he should hurry up. Amen.
Jesus unfortunately brought quite the opposite
@@itsjustme12345 how
@@user-iw2wu8yp6v Crusades, inquisitions etc etc. The countless people who have suffered at the hands of Christians for thousands of years. All in the name of one man: Jesus Christ.
@@itsjustme12345 Christians did that, not Jesus
Jesus met none of the qualifications of the Messiah.
The answer that he’s the reason for so many Jewish deaths so he can’t be the messiah makes so much sense and I’m atheist
Yep. Add to that the issue of trinity and a human as God being completely incompatible with Judaism... It is therefore imo clear that Jesus simply can't be him (according to Judaism). 🤷♀️
Exactly
Christianity is the father of antisemitism
@@lilgamergirl7745 LOL. WTF are you talking about? Jews killing Jesus isn't 'an idea'. It is expressly confirmed in the Bible. That is how it went down. It's not an opinion. It's not someone's 'idea'.
Francine Levesque Then what is Christianity?
Because the Gospel or New Testament is clearly invalid in Jewish point of view.
@@leodf1 if you pulled the trigger of a gun and I was standing across the street watching you pull the trigger. Would you be the killer or would I be the killer? Romans crusified Jesus. They nailed him on a cross.
There is a huge problem that these Rabis cannot see: Yeshua was a jew and never wanted to create a new religion. All of His followers were jewesh and were kicked out by the others jews. Maybe if the jewish people had not expelled the followers of Yeshua from the synagoges the followers of Yeshua would be part of the judaism as well. Then it brings us to the question again: if Lubavitch can be considered as a messiah to a lot of jews, why Yeshua can not?
JESUS IS from seed of David HIS GENEALOGY is in New Testament
chronology????
Mark Simons sorry genealogy of JESUS . Evangelia of St.Luk
jesus is gay
mohamed is butcher
moses is magician
Rezk Mohammed [مدمر جبهات السودانين والرعاع العرب ] JESUS IS GOD and who you are ?
Krzysztof Janeczek, not that it matters, but you are mistaken. jesus's genealogy is actually not given by Luke. (or Matthew) It is Joseph's genealogy that is supposedly given. (and whether it is accurate or not is not even the subject, but it isn't accurate anyway) The new test claims that Joseph wasn't jesus's father. Thus it is not even giving his genealogy.
I don't recall Jesus ever claiming to be a Christian. So sad that they use a false claim like that as justification for their disproval of him. But it is what it is...
Corey I love your channel here....you ask such fascinating and provocative questions....great stuff!
Whoa the first guy is dead wrong when he said that Jesus denied the unity the Almighty God. Jesus declared the Shema when he speaks to the Jews : hear O' Israel, our Lord God is one.
It was the early Christians that twisted the teachings of Jesus to suit their agenda at the Council of Nicaea.
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true. Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth. But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved. He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light. But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
John 5:18, 23, 32-40 KJV
bible.com/bible/1/jhn.5.18-40.KJV
I'm puzzled by some of these answers at times being that it is taught that Jesus was a Jew, born then died one. As for denial of the Torah, it's pretty clear that he is told to be well versed in the Torah but is against the establishment and that his fight ended up being with the priests of the temple. Also, no one references the first messiah, Cyrus.... amiright?
He violated the Sabbath in public, practiced black magic, and tried to get his rabbi to look at a beautiful woman that he was attracted to. He took a huge decline later in his life. Fables made up about him convinced people to assume he has some divinity unique to him.
@@morehn I haven't read the Talmud, nor am I Jewish or even Religious to have conviction in saying one the thing is truth over the other but, I was under the assumption that that was not in the same person as the name Yeshua is a s common as... say uh Joshua. Also I had to track down this little bit of wisdom which I look at as middle ground. No one is correct. "Pappos ben Yehuda, is mentioned as being martyred with Rabbi Akiva[6] and is himself mentioned as being among the Pharisees returning to Israel following their persecution by John Hyrcanus,[5] which would place Yeshu's lifetime anywhere between 130 after and 70 years before the birth of Jesus." Let's be reasonable and say... I like ancient history. We can leave it at that.
@@terrence6674 Jesus was alive during the Second Temple period and after its destruction. Yeshu was a common name and there is some debate if he was the same one Christians claim. However, the one that Christians claim is based on misinterpretations and perversions of the original Torah. They base their religion on those misinterpretations, which makes the religion completely moot.
@@morehn What source places this Yeshu at the temple destruction? The Talmud references 100 years bce. What's your source?
@@terrence6674 you can read some history on wiki en.m.wikipedia. org/wiki/Second_Temple_period#:~:text=The%20era%20from%20roughly%204,from%20within%20Second%20Temple%20Judaism
I don't know exactly all the dates, but our tradition is that Christianity developed in connection with the destruction of the Second Temple. The Second Temple was destroyed because of hatred among each other and that is what Christianity stands for.
The people answering the questions appear to be looking at the questioner with great hostility.
Because lol, they probably think he's Christian or a Messianic Jew for asking this. Lol.
Just have to read Isaiah 53 and pray God for His light!
Shalom to everyone
amen
@@cristyscottage6711 Thank you. God bless you Cristy
@@davidaimer314 God bless you too!
Yes!
@@margaritakleinman5701 Thank you Margarita. Be blessed
Jesus didn't become a Christian. He didn't even found Christianity. He was full blown Jew. Christianity developed from his teachings.
"Jesus became a Christian" lol. He didn't become one, He FOUNDED Christianity--Christianity didn't exist before His coming. A Christian is a follower of Christ--obviously Our Lord wasn't a follower of Himself, it makes no sense. It's like saying Yahweh was a Jew.
@Abraham Villalobos He is God, the eternally co-existent and consubstantial Second Person of the Trinity, begotten before all worlds, by whom, through whom and for whom all things were created that are.
Religion. A very interesting natural phenomenon.
Opium: a very interesting phenomenon. Today, opium is the religion of the masses.
@Forever Learning actually sounds like notonlyfans is the masses of the religion, especially girls.
@@NossyDrelich no, wokeism is.
3:00 yeshua is a jew and his disciples are jewish as well.. My friend, what are you talking about..
I'm Muslim and I swear to God Jesus is messiah accept or not and he will come back but he is not God and he is prophet of God peace be upon him
Corey please make a part two of this video asking christians the same thing, all you’d have to do is reword the title “if jesus can be the messiah then why cant the lubavitcher rebbe?”
Christian here. I would say that christians do not care to deny judaism - Maybe the lubavitcher rebbe is the messiah? I would expect the messiah to return, from the line of Juda and David (Though i do not know the geneology of the lubavitcher rebbe).
We just follow Yeshua and his teachings, until his returrn is evident - As lightning strikes from the west to the east, so the return of the messiah shall be evident to all.
@@JezielProdigalSon i wasn’t saying whether the lubavitcher rebbe or jesus was the messiah, i was simply saying that since corey asked the question to chabad-niks he should reverse the question and ask it to christians, also according to your new testament jesus is not descended from David because the messiah has to be descended from the father’s side through David+Solomon BIOLOGICALLY, this was an issue that the earliest christians had with the virgin birth, in fact, the very first Jewish followers of jesus(known as ebionites) didn’t believe in the virgin birth, they believed in the adoptionist theory that jesus wasnt God’s biological son but his adopted son which personally i think makes way more sense than what christians today believe, i myself used to be a christian and saw very big problems with deifying jesus and with the virgin birth and with many other mainstream christian doctrines that didnt come from the Bible but from the council of nicea, in the end i think that the adoptionist theory could be possible but i won’t worry on who the messiah is until he arrives since the Tanakh says that when the messiah arrives no one will be able to deny him, so if the messiah arrives and it’s jesus or if it’s someone else then great, but the main thing to focus on in the here&now is following God’s laws, oh also i dont think that the lubavitcher rebbe could be the messiah at all since he never even claimed the title and his geneology is pretty sketchy in my opinion
@@themosinguy6508 I agree, thats why i tried answering the question, as a christian.
@@JezielProdigalSon ah, thanks for clearing that up, i guess i just misread your comment lol
They dont study the torah but rabbinic traditions. You dont even need to learn hebrew to see that Jesus is the Messiah. Just look at biblical events. They all point to Jesus.
Great video, was nice to hear so many opinions, especially from a Chabad perpective. Though here in Budapest there are some Lubovitch in my area (a couple of streets), there is zero religious discourse, which I can inderstand due to the horrors of the near-past, but as a curious soul I still find it unfortunate. I realizse from having grown up in NYC that not all sects even WANT to speak to a non-jew, not out of spite but because they see it as pointless/waste of time. I strongly disagree with this, as it serves their best interest to get to know the people in their community (and see it as such), with the local community getting to know thrm and what they feel strongly about in life and their relationship to God. This would be so easy to do and would make life so much nicer by dispelling the fear of the unknown that is inherent in people. Yet instead it is somehow still seen as pious to find and focus on the few things that divide us :/
Jesus is barely mentioned by Roman historians.
COMPARING THE LUBAVITCH REBBE TO JESUS LIKE COMPARING A HUMAN WITH GOD !!
להבדיל
shabrour actually it’s the other way around
The sad thing is "Dajjal (Antichrist) will be their massiah
If the Lubavitch Rebbe can be the Messiah, why can't Jesus? BECAUSE JESUS DONT HAVE SYMBOL OF GODS BECAME FLESH In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God (WORD=SYMBOL)
Relics Malayalam Sad but true. It will be the false prophet they've been warned about in the Torah. The New Testament warns about him also, he will perform lying signs and wonders.
Children, settle down.
@ellenfrancis67 I guess You dont read the scripture carefully or no Use it as a inhabit. Yeshua Hamashiach had a human father called Yusuf(Maries fiance) and his blod line are all the way from Avraham and King David too(Yesha'yahu7:14, Matthews1:1-17 and Luke1:26-31)
.We all know Yeshua got crucifixed as the propechy says Tehillim22:16-18, Yesha'yahu53:3-12 and in New testament Acts13:38,Rom8:3,Mathews27:14, Luke23:9,John1:29,Rom5:6,8, John3:16, Mathews27:38,Luke:4:18-19,Mathews27:57-60 and John5:27. Please give me some scourses in your scriptures why Yashua is not Hamashiach? (only from Nevi'im and Ketuvim not a menmade comments book like Talmud... That is not from Elohim! ) Not your own opinions, because it Equal to 0
@ellenfrancis67 So Yeshua was the son of Yusuf in the full legal sense, because he was adopted when Yusuf married Mariam, and thus Yeshua is also considered to be a legal descendant of King David. You know The tradition in old testament😉. He still is legally and the propechy talked about a Virgin woman right? How can this man so called Lubavitch Rebbe be Ha massiach?
Jesus is the messiah. The Word made flesh and dwelt among us.
A partner? From what I’ve always heard, he believed he was a seed of G-d.
Annother evidence why I don't like religious fanatics, regardless which "only truth" they claim to possess.
Jesus never claimed to be the son of God nor the god or trinity. He taught ppl the oneness of God and how God was so powerful and believe in one god and don't do sins that's what he taught the rabbis and ppl. the messiah sent by Allah was the word OF TRUTH! and his mother Mary peace be upon her was so righteous why don't ppl believe in Jesus Peace be upon him he literally performed miracles and made ppl ALIVE! how come ppl don't believe in it???!!!! Judaism (WAS) TRUE BUT NOT ANYMORE. Jesus came to make it better but guess when his return will be then he will make everyone a Muslim (submitting their will to god). Who created you then if u have common sense bro you would know if religion and god were true then it's good for believers and even if there was no god it's still ko because nothing will happen to them but to u it's 50/50.
Jesus was a sinner according to Jewish law. He was not perfect. That is why he is not the Messiah. That is the Jewish tradition, although not the Christian faith, obviously. One of the Jewish commentators even mentions that the Messiah awaits in Eden to be called down and bring the Messiah. I think it is Derech Eretz Zuta, for sure the Maharsha in Sanhedrin commentary around daf 97. And yes, the Rebbe is Moshiach.
Maschiach must be a descendant of K. David by his father's lineage. Js didn't have a biological father so, he could not have been the Messiah.
Yup. Not sure who 'K' is, but you got the 2nd part right.
@@kovyjacob I think "K" stands for "King", as in King David.
@@margaritakleinman5701 You're right. Thanks! I totally missed that!
@@kovyjacob No problem!
Actually, Jewish heritage as declared by Rabbinical Law (which does not align with Torah) is decided by the matriarchal lineage.
If the word of God is truth, he will not be an expert of the Torah, but the other way around.
For us, the Torah is percieved, the messiah will not percieve, but know.
No torah needed.
Full of words, and completely clueless.
I'm Torah it is written that machiah is a human being not God. The problem is the invention of Trinity in 3rd century. Judaism believes in Torah not a man made religion of Paul.
we muslims dont believe paul or bible too. but the bible is false they make trinity bur jesus real teaching is not that what they wrote in bible. thats why he is a prophet but christians change his teaching and life and make a new religion this was not the idea of jesus
LOL, the best answer is that if the Lubavitcher Rebbe is Mashiach then by definition it is impossible for jesus to be the Mashiach. After all, how many Mashichim can we have?
Many, as there have been. It's a title. This is the sin of flattering titles and personhood. These clowns are apostates and from the synagogue of the adversary, whether they are Yahoohim or gentile with their corrupted doctrines.
apparently one which appears to be two.
One suffers and is rejected and bares the sins of the world, and yet is a light to the gentiles, preparing the way for the ''second'' One, and the one yet to come, who will gather the jewish tribes and establish the true zion and spew out the horrid systems now controlling and manouvering our lives and ''evolution'' where ''they'' want it to go, and we all pay into that horridness. And that first Messiah, in Christ has planted the seeds to prepare the other nations of the Earth for this full blown all encompassing Messiah who shall be seen by all nations, and every knee shall bow!
Really should not be an arguement at all. I agree! yeh.
Cyrus the great was also mentioned as the messiah because he freed the Jews and let them return to Israel, also he was the one to rebuild the Temple because God told him. And of course Cyrus the great wasn't a jew either he was a zoroastrian
@@MalaklypsetheElder you have title in sin is your heart The Elder. You mean granpa
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Judaism is the old testament, Christianity is the new testament and the truth.
Jesus is a football player. What does he have to do with this?
no he is transsexual
A+ post
You mean Gabriel Jesus from Manchester City?
I'm a Jewish Christian who believes in the new testament and that Jesus is the messiah.
@ellenfrancis67 He was a descendant of David and he fulfilled many prophecies. Have you read the new testament?