Kinda bizarre as wasn't their Z390 Taichi pretty good (I say that as a question as I had audio problems on mine then horrific coil whine so returned it) but their later Intel boards have been seriously downgraded. eg They did a model with 10Gbit ethernet on Z390 but don't for the later models.
Back then (tm) they used to provide the cheap retrofit junk, you would only buy if your original Board failed after 5 Years, but you didn't had the Money for a new Build yet. Guess they going back to their roots.
In the next few years Chinese, Taiwanese manufacturers will have their way with these youtubers. I can almost promise you that you won't see any youtuber saying anything negative or calling anything trash. We already turning into a communist type government around the world.
@@lewislu8533 yeah its wierd, the b560 itx boards are as expensive as b550 boards and have the same features as a A520 board - which are around 100€ in the EU
I also planned to go for "affordable" but I noticed that usually means low quality components and problems down the road, I now have my eye on 2 motherboards that are currently around 200 euro, my first choice is more expensive and worse tbh but it is white to fit the white case I'm going for *Asus ROG STRIX B560-A GAMING WIFI* but I might just go for the better one *ASUS ROG STRIX B560-F GAMING WIFI* I've chosen these 2 above the others that are less expensive just because they have a BIOS FlashBack button, which keeps me from worrying about ruining my motherboard from making a mistake.
The Asrock B550 series of boards are reviewed positively. So they spent their RND on something moves rather something that sit on shelves. Not the first or last time a company has done it.
@@josethemacho Do you seriously think major tech journalists go around demanding money for good reviews? 1: Companies would laugh in their face and 2: their credibility would be tanked if they were caught, so it's really not worth it to them. Please think for more than 3 seconds before hitting send.
Not quite as much to talk about; VRM performance is a bit of a moot point on a locked platform. Also, B560 mobo stock is kinda limited at the moment, so there's not a whole lot of choice. If you're doing a build with an 11400 or something like that, honestly anything is fine, pick whatever's available at a good price. The Asus PRIME B560M-A is in stock for $110 at Newegg, and it looks pretty well-equipped from what I can tell.
You would have thought that asRock would have learnt by now not to skimp on an overclockable mobo. series. They really need to improve their reputation imo, but I'm not sure if its equally as dire on their AM4 products.
They have nailed some AMD stuff so I really don't get the inconsistency. Some of their earlier stuff was really good and cost competitive, I still have an X58 Extreme pulling duty and ITX motherboards in HTPC's for myself and others that have been rock solid. Had a few GPUs from them too latest one being a 6800, never an issue. They just can't seem to get it together and things that shouldn't pass checks are just getting pushed through. Something is off.
@@Berserkism My theory is that the intel chipsets are more expensive across the board, so they try to achieve same levels of profit as with AM4, but have to cheapen the motherboard whilst keeping the same 'cheapest budget' for Z590 (a bit of an oxymoron) price. Still, they perhaps should aim above this 'tier', and price. They used to make some really good products years ago.
I have the Asrock B350M motherboard back when you recommended it during the Ryzen 1000 days. Sad to see this company go down the drain since then. Safe to say my next upgrade won't use an Asrock board.
These VRM reviews are a real service to the community. Without them, motherboard shopping is almost nothing but wading through meaningless marketing terms.
I've never had a problem with these boards, just finished a build with z590 phantom and the temps are great with 11600k, just like the b460 phantom I've used in dozens of builds, I really like these boards and represent a huge value, Im a system builder since 96, and these boards are solid, never a complain at all and great bang for the buck.
Hey thanks man liked and subbed. I got the MSI Z590 A Pro WIFI paired with a locked i7-10700. I do know that I lose some features since this board is mainly focused on 11th gen CPUs, still it was the only board Best Buy offered at 189 dollars, and they also had a flash sale so it used to be 219.99 dollars (Flash Sale ended). I've been doing research about this board and reviews to see what others think but I couldn't find any, I then found this video which now I do believe that I at least have a good board, may not be the best but at least it's not the Phantom Gaming 4. Before upgrading my platform from my old LGA 1155 and core i7-3770 cpu. I heard that B and H motherboards do limit performance on some CPUS and locks ram which reduces a lot of performance, so many recommended z boards if using a i5 or higher. So I was trying to look for a z490 board instead but I honestly didn't wanna wait for shipping, so I just picked up the MSI Z590 A Pro WIFI. So far everything seems to be running pretty well and I really liked the integrated WIFI it comes with since I had to use a generic USB WIFI adapter on my LGA 1155 board, but still at least it worked. I also do know that these boards are meant for overlocking as well but I wanted a board that could handle the i7-10700 I was getting and many recommended me to get a good B series board or a Z board, so I opted for the Z590.
Not surprised, ASRock is the Zotac of Motherboard manufacturers... bought one board from them for a 6700K back in the day, couldn't even apply BIOS settings.
Keep up the good work, Steve. I'd appreciate in such comparisons a table summing up board prices at least, but possibly also VRM configuration. The intro part detailing these things always makes me zone out.
I don't know of a table for LGA1200, but here's a really good one for AM4 (also includes a link to LGA 1151v2 boards). docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit#gid=2112472504
I remember buildzoid In his asrock z590 rundown came to the same conclusion on the phantom 4. Just by looking a picture of it, he said he had zero faith that asrock could make that vrm configuration work
@@Ren_1106 Yeah, duh. Of course Z590s can support 10th generation CPUs. Did you not realise that B560 is from the same generation as Z590, and that there's no point in buying an overclocking motherboard with a locked CPU?
Phantom features in the phantom gaming. At some point the Intel discounts are offset when you factor in a good motherboard. AM4 has so many more less expensive options. Intel value is being tested by the features of these boards.
Fantastic Motherboard review. This is helpful to so many people trying to choose the right motherboard from the options available. I'm happy that you include the pricing as well because down the line, the pricing tends to fluctuate as I have noticed in your older motherboard reviews. Also, I like the fact that you don't hold back when dissing particular items.
I think asrock spent their entire budget on AMD boards this time around. Their AMD stack is quite good and they have some of the best B550 boards, both in value, features and BIOS support. These boards remind me of Zen 1 boards. How the turntables.
@@cyberspectre8675 true, I actually made a build with the taichi myself. I was mostly thinking about Asus, gigabyte and msi boards that had very questionable boards. I guess asrock just literally roll a dice every time a new chipset gets released with the dice determining the amount of lines taken before designing boards.
ASRock does not have a good B550 lineup. For a start they have two ATX motherboard designs that they sell as 5 different models with different heatsinks, plus the Taichi, which is overpriced and only slightly different to the midrange model. The B550M-HDV is by far the worst B550 - with only 8 Vcore MOSFETs. MSI and Gigabyte's cheapest A320 motherboards have 9, and they use better MOSFETs. Hell, even BIOSTAR doesn't sell any AM4 motherboard with a VRM as bad as the ASRock B550M-HDV. The only ASRock B550 motherboards worth buying are the Phantom Gaming 4 (because it's the cheapest ATX B550 motherboard) and B550M-ITX (because it's the cheapest ITX B550 motherboard). The B550M-HDV is the cheapest micro-ATX B550 motherboard, but I would rather buy an A320 for half the price (you're not overclocking with that POS anyway), or spend £5 more to get a massively superior Gigabyte S2H or DS3H. Do you see a pattern here? ASRock makes crap. Crap is cheap. For all of ASRock's other B550 motherboards there is usually an alternative option from MSI, Gigabyte or ASUS (sometimes all 3) which is a straight upgrade for the same price or less. The Steel Legend and Extreme4 are sometimes sold for decent prices, but the Tomahawk, Strix -A/F and Aorus Pro are often cheaper. One board (with two different heatsinks) that trades blows in the midrange market in a couple of regions (and is hopelessly overpriced in most others) and a pile of cheap crap is not a good lineup.
Unless your next CPU upgrade is an 10th or 11th gen Intel processor, don't base your decision on this video. Any particular manufacturer's products can vary wildly from one generation to another, so wait for reviews on whatever specific motherboard you're getting.
@@deadtake2664 The B560 chipset can't overclock, no point in getting a K series chip if you aren't overclocking. Why not just go with an 11400F? Could buy yourself a new SSD with the price difference lol
I remember when ASRock was a good cheap option even for K sku CPU's in the LGA1155 and 1150 days. Even the cheaper models weren't too bad at what they do. But unfortunately, it seems that their budget offerings falls short of what Intel CPU's require to run out of spec
I build my pc with i5 10400 an asrock phantom 4 and still no problems. Thermals are pretty solid and i'm not even using a graphic card. I play mostly esports and i'm using 16 gb ram 3200 vengeance and it's very nice build. I never used asrock but for the chipset...i think it's good price and very satisfied with the performance.
Thanks to this series i was able to choose my msi b550 tomahawk knowing exactly what the vrm can handle Thank you for your hard work. Its really helpfull
Steve, B560 testing with something like a locked 10700 and 10900 could be very interesting ^^. Those CPUs have quite the price cuts recently so they are viable high core count options for cheaper if you don't plan to overclock but might want to have the power limits removed for that extra performance.
Wonder how many people like me couldn't care about Intel, the motherboards or the vrm performance but....still watched the whole video because...it's hardware unboxed
I went for a MSI Torpedo to pair with my 11400. It'll be awesome for future upgrading to a K processor. I've yet to install it but damn it is a beautiful board.
The problem with Steve doing this testing is that as soon as he reccommends a motherboard, it instantly sells out on newegg. When I needed a board for my ryzen 3700x I bought the motherboard he recommended. I should have bought two. I ordered within minutes of the video going live and an hour later they were sold out. Any time HU and GN recommend a product it becomes an instant sellout. When they BOTH recommend the same product, good luck getting one. Both sites have tremendous reputations due to their honest testing and high standards of ethical behavior. When it comes to buying hardware, these two sites have become the only sites I really trust.
It also hurts ASRock because people like me who haven't built a computer in 8 years is looking for mobos and I see they sell a really cheap Z590 that gets bad reviews so I immediately tell myself to stay away from that brand. Little did I know they also make some nice quality mobos as well. Too late, Z590 ASUS TUF was already ordered.
I always go with the Gigabyte motherboards. I'll definitely looking forward for next tier op of Motherboards video. Planning to upgrade my Motherboard and CPU. Looking at the i9 10900K for 380 euro. Since the 11 series are a disaster.
I'd still buy an Asrock Phantom Gaming 4/ac, because it has wifi, and OC potential. For a 11600k this seems like a great board if you need wifi, and OC. I don't care about 80c VRM thermals. That's very well within spec.
It still kills me that ASRock doesn't do well in these test because the x570 pro4 I have (and b350 pro 4) is one of the better lower end x570 motherboards.
The X570 Pro4 has a weaker VRM than the Z590 Phantom Gaming 4 (8 phases instead of 6, but only 2 MOSFETs per phase instead of 4), but Intel 11th gen CPUs need a lot more power than Ryzen. ASRock just doesn't seem to have properly caught on to how much power these CPUs need, or how the other manufacturers are dealing with it by massively upgrading their VRMs.
i went with the gaming edge, then it came faulty and got a strix-e, ik its a more expensive board but... worth, the z490-a pro from msi was too basic, i mean it had the important stuff, power and z chipset, that's it, cheap too
Just bought myself a MSI MAG B460M MORTAR WIFI thanks to one of your older videos showing it outperforming ASRock's Z490 Phantom Gaming 4. This one made me all the happier about my decision.
that phantom 4 vrm heatsink is way too small... but the pro4 is great improvement over Z490 pro4 last year... seems asrock need to redesign or delete the phantom gaming 4
I was very surprised that AsRock released Z590 Phantom Gaming with so weak VRM section, much below any other Z590. Their Pro4 and Steel Legend B560 boards wipe the floor with anything in their price range, so some AsRock haters will have a hard time digesting the results when they come out.
That Z590 is really the best selling platform of Intel ! All the latest technology for a low price - and future proof for the next generations to come ! Well done Intel !
The PRO4 series used to be for midrange B boards. It shows how terrible the intel platform is when those midrange brand are put on the overprised Z platform
I built a 12400f with the ASRock Phantom gaming and I’ll have to disagree with you. The board and bios were excellent. Yes, the heat sinks were small……..but they were all metal without the large plastic cover on them. The 12400f ran beautifully on this board.
Great video and really solidified my recent z590 purchase. Wouldn't pair a asrock board with more than a 11400f at this point. They also bit me back in the AM3+ days with a stock clocked FX-8120 and 8350. I picked up a Asus Tuf z590 recently and am pairing it with a 10900 65w tdp. Gaming at 4k and paired with a Noctua D15 this thing should run cold for a very long time (coming from a 4790k so trust me, non K is still a huge upgrade even with a slow base clock). Yea I know I didn't need a Z board for a locked chip, but extra pci-e lanes and typically better features & thermals.
I was pc builder and these videos help me A LOT understanding the value of motherboards and the mess that latest CPU starting from Intel are making with customers. I think that some motherboard makers shouldn't reccomend certain CPU over their motherboard. Asus Prime and Asrock for example couldn't tell to use nothing more than a 11600k to their entry Z590 boards... I don't still understand the existence of certain products.
The "phantom" bit refers to the magic smoke that will seep out of your case if you try to run that board with any OC. These tests are under perfect conditions, imagine the same board in a more constrained or dirty case (As is the case with MANY builds focused on glass before ventilation, sadly) and with a thirsty GPU like a 3000 series running how and blowing hot air towards the VRM. That will end well.
After owning an ASRock X470 Taichi, I am done with them next time I upgrade my motherboard. While the X470 Taichi has an amazing VRM and cooling, the BIOS's have a terrible time getting correct auto settings when setting XMP on most AM4 motherboards. You almost always have to manually enter memory controller settings into it to get the system to run stable. I'm done. I only bought the ASRock board vs the MSI one because of GPP, but I wish I'd have gone with the MSI board now..
Saw the title and Steve holding another Asrock MoBo. Clicked ASAP
ASRock never learns... Good at least you are here to give their products an honest review!
Hey! Nice to see you there! Yeah, AsRock is making questionable choices lately
Kinda bizarre as wasn't their Z390 Taichi pretty good (I say that as a question as I had audio problems on mine then horrific coil whine so returned it) but their later Intel boards have been seriously downgraded. eg They did a model with 10Gbit ethernet on Z390 but don't for the later models.
Back then (tm) they used to provide the cheap retrofit junk, you would only buy if your original Board failed after 5 Years, but you didn't had the Money for a new Build yet.
Guess they going back to their roots.
@@alexatkin The Phantom is one of their lowest end boards can't compare with their Taichi line.
With intel being crap can't blame them for providing the crap as well. Which can be corelated with their AM4 boards since Ryzen 3000 has been better.
Asrock is gonna be mad at a reviewer giving their opinion again. Keep up the good work steve they should have improved their VRMs
In the next few years Chinese, Taiwanese manufacturers will have their way with these youtubers. I can almost promise you that you won't see any youtuber saying anything negative or calling anything trash. We already turning into a communist type government around the world.
@@benjy117 Keep projecting.
@@benjy117 take your meds
I would love a affordable B560 Board roundup - since they might be a go to for budget builds
b560 is so much more expensive than b550... and there's not a lot of choices
@@lewislu8533 yeah its wierd, the b560 itx boards are as expensive as b550 boards and have the same features as a A520 board - which are around 100€ in the EU
@@zpNt prolly has something to do with pci 4.0 support for nvme drives, and maybe even the onboard header for usb 3.2.w.h.a.t.w.a.s.i.t.a.g.a.i.n.
@@Rem_NL prolly - makes sense, otherwise the b550 boards would be cheaper aswell.
I also planned to go for "affordable" but I noticed that usually means low quality components and problems down the road, I now have my eye on 2 motherboards that are currently around 200 euro, my first choice is more expensive and worse tbh but it is white to fit the white case I'm going for *Asus ROG STRIX B560-A GAMING WIFI* but I might just go for the better one *ASUS ROG STRIX B560-F GAMING WIFI* I've chosen these 2 above the others that are less expensive just because they have a BIOS FlashBack button, which keeps me from worrying about ruining my motherboard from making a mistake.
Asrock "What do you mean he can just BuY TheM?!"
Lol
"sticking it on a trash board like the Phantom Gaming 4..." Ouch! That truth is going to leave a mark.
My thoughts as well. Not mincing words, eh?
Steve I hope that we can expect similar video about B560 boards
Also looking forward to b560 vrm tests, they seem decent
I want a b560 steel legend.. hope the vrm temps are good
@@hassan_dgf I just finished my build with a micro atx 560 Steel Legend with a 10400 though and 3200 MHz ... no problems.. 👍😂
@@michaelhansen2947 that’s great to hear! Pretty relieving after seeing this video😂
@@hassan_dgf vortez already tested B560 Steel Legend and B560M Mortar, they are good enough.
They don't allow overclocks, so I don't think such benchmark is not worth.
I just ordered the MSI 590 Pro. Thanks for the reassurance!
You don't get to control reviewers like puppets, Assrock. Make better products and you won't have to worry about bad reviews.
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is that a spelling mistake or intentional?
@@nurenzayyan4825 just noticed that lmao 😅😂
The Asrock B550 series of boards are reviewed positively. So they spent their RND on something moves rather something that sit on shelves. Not the first or last time a company has done it.
Assrock 😂😂😂
"HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN?!?"
-HardwareUnboxed to ASRock, probably
or is it the other way around...?
Asrock didn't want to pay for the review... that's the reason for the bad review.
@@josethemacho Excuse me, what?
@@josethemacho Do you seriously think major tech journalists go around demanding money for good reviews? 1: Companies would laugh in their face and 2: their credibility would be tanked if they were caught, so it's really not worth it to them. Please think for more than 3 seconds before hitting send.
@@josethemacho hardware unboxed is not like linus tho,
Man the amount of work u guys put on to this is absolutely amazing.. respect!
Please same video for B560 motherboards
Review b560 motherboards, since those are most worthwhile this generation!
Not most,the only.
Not quite as much to talk about; VRM performance is a bit of a moot point on a locked platform. Also, B560 mobo stock is kinda limited at the moment, so there's not a whole lot of choice. If you're doing a build with an 11400 or something like that, honestly anything is fine, pick whatever's available at a good price. The Asus PRIME B560M-A is in stock for $110 at Newegg, and it looks pretty well-equipped from what I can tell.
You would have thought that asRock would have learnt by now not to skimp on an overclockable mobo. series. They really need to improve their reputation imo, but I'm not sure if its equally as dire on their AM4 products.
They have nailed some AMD stuff so I really don't get the inconsistency. Some of their earlier stuff was really good and cost competitive, I still have an X58 Extreme pulling duty and ITX motherboards in HTPC's for myself and others that have been rock solid. Had a few GPUs from them too latest one being a 6800, never an issue. They just can't seem to get it together and things that shouldn't pass checks are just getting pushed through. Something is off.
@@Berserkism My theory is that the intel chipsets are more expensive across the board, so they try to achieve same levels of profit as with AM4, but have to cheapen the motherboard whilst keeping the same 'cheapest budget' for Z590 (a bit of an oxymoron) price. Still, they perhaps should aim above this 'tier', and price. They used to make some really good products years ago.
Summer is comming, that Asrock mobo is perfect for outdoor BBQ LAN parties
I have the Asrock B350M motherboard back when you recommended it during the Ryzen 1000 days. Sad to see this company go down the drain since then. Safe to say my next upgrade won't use an Asrock board.
Yeah, the X370 Taichi was an excellent board and I'm still using one with my 3700X. Wonder why they aren't keeping up any more.
How about z590 oc formula from asrock?
Asrock boards for AMD ain't that bad at all. For some reasons, they only screwed up on Intel boards. Asrock B550 and X570 line up were great.
That's definitely the way to loose customers 😆
@@fleurdewin7958
+ They support zen 3 on their 300 series motherboard you can find the bioses online
These VRM reviews are a real service to the community. Without them, motherboard shopping is almost nothing but wading through meaningless marketing terms.
Great in depth reviews, very good. You also have a great announcer voice, makes it a pleasure to listen to ;)
I've never had a problem with these boards, just finished a build with z590 phantom and the temps are great with 11600k, just like the b460 phantom I've used in dozens of builds, I really like these boards and represent a huge value, Im a system builder since 96, and these boards are solid, never a complain at all and great bang for the buck.
I love the "Hate Hate" relationship You and Asrock have. Wonder whos fault is that. Probably the bad products. :)
Hey thanks man liked and subbed. I got the MSI Z590 A Pro WIFI paired with a locked i7-10700. I do know that I lose some features since this board is mainly focused on 11th gen CPUs, still it was the only board Best Buy offered at 189 dollars, and they also had a flash sale so it used to be 219.99 dollars (Flash Sale ended).
I've been doing research about this board and reviews to see what others think but I couldn't find any, I then found this video which now I do believe that I at least have a good board, may not be the best but at least it's not the Phantom Gaming 4. Before upgrading my platform from my old LGA 1155 and core i7-3770 cpu. I heard that B and H motherboards do limit performance on some CPUS and locks ram which reduces a lot of performance, so many recommended z boards if using a i5 or higher. So I was trying to look for a z490 board instead but I honestly didn't wanna wait for shipping, so I just picked up the MSI Z590 A Pro WIFI. So far everything seems to be running pretty well and I really liked the integrated WIFI it comes with since I had to use a generic USB WIFI adapter on my LGA 1155 board, but still at least it worked.
I also do know that these boards are meant for overlocking as well but I wanted a board that could handle the i7-10700 I was getting and many recommended me to get a good B series board or a Z board, so I opted for the Z590.
I knew which brand when I saw the title.. :D Good job again Steve!
putting my money on the UD for value
Not surprised, ASRock is the Zotac of Motherboard manufacturers... bought one board from them for a 6700K back in the day, couldn't even apply BIOS settings.
Keep up the good work, Steve. I'd appreciate in such comparisons a table summing up board prices at least, but possibly also VRM configuration. The intro part detailing these things always makes me zone out.
I don't know of a table for LGA1200, but here's a really good one for AM4 (also includes a link to LGA 1151v2 boards).
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit#gid=2112472504
@@nathangamble125 Thanks! That's a really impressive table.
Linus Tech Tips latest watercooling project looks like the future Intel stock cooler if power consumption increase goes on.
I remember buildzoid In his asrock z590 rundown came to the same conclusion on the phantom 4. Just by looking a picture of it, he said he had zero faith that asrock could make that vrm configuration work
Thanks for all the work involved in doing this! Great info!
Since Intel is now a budget brand, I would much appreciate the B560 roundup. Could score a cheap 10700 and slap that in a decent board for upgrade.
Most of the Z590 motherboards can support 10th generation Intels, such as ASUS
@@Ren_1106 that wasn't the point, the price was, but thanks for the input.
@@Ren_1106 Yeah, duh. Of course Z590s can support 10th generation CPUs. Did you not realise that B560 is from the same generation as Z590, and that there's no point in buying an overclocking motherboard with a locked CPU?
Phantom features in the phantom gaming. At some point the Intel discounts are offset when you factor in a good motherboard. AM4 has so many more less expensive options. Intel value is being tested by the features of these boards.
Fantastic Motherboard review. This is helpful to so many people trying to choose the right motherboard from the options available. I'm happy that you include the pricing as well because down the line, the pricing tends to fluctuate as I have noticed in your older motherboard reviews. Also, I like the fact that you don't hold back when dissing particular items.
I think asrock spent their entire budget on AMD boards this time around. Their AMD stack is quite good and they have some of the best B550 boards, both in value, features and BIOS support. These boards remind me of Zen 1 boards. How the turntables.
X370 taichi was an excellent board. This thing reminds me of my 970FX board.
Just wait for B560 Steel Legend and Pro4 tests. You will change mind.
@@cyberspectre8675 true, I actually made a build with the taichi myself. I was mostly thinking about Asus, gigabyte and msi boards that had very questionable boards. I guess asrock just literally roll a dice every time a new chipset gets released with the dice determining the amount of lines taken before designing boards.
@@cyberspectre8675 x470 Taichi too.
ASRock does not have a good B550 lineup.
For a start they have two ATX motherboard designs that they sell as 5 different models with different heatsinks, plus the Taichi, which is overpriced and only slightly different to the midrange model. The B550M-HDV is by far the worst B550 - with only 8 Vcore MOSFETs. MSI and Gigabyte's cheapest A320 motherboards have 9, and they use better MOSFETs. Hell, even BIOSTAR doesn't sell any AM4 motherboard with a VRM as bad as the ASRock B550M-HDV.
The only ASRock B550 motherboards worth buying are the Phantom Gaming 4 (because it's the cheapest ATX B550 motherboard) and B550M-ITX (because it's the cheapest ITX B550 motherboard). The B550M-HDV is the cheapest micro-ATX B550 motherboard, but I would rather buy an A320 for half the price (you're not overclocking with that POS anyway), or spend £5 more to get a massively superior Gigabyte S2H or DS3H. Do you see a pattern here? ASRock makes crap. Crap is cheap.
For all of ASRock's other B550 motherboards there is usually an alternative option from MSI, Gigabyte or ASUS (sometimes all 3) which is a straight upgrade for the same price or less. The Steel Legend and Extreme4 are sometimes sold for decent prices, but the Tomahawk, Strix -A/F and Aorus Pro are often cheaper. One board (with two different heatsinks) that trades blows in the midrange market in a couple of regions (and is hopelessly overpriced in most others) and a pile of cheap crap is not a good lineup.
Liked, thanks for all your awesome, work with all these setups and testing!
It must've been very time consuming!
Well Gigabyte is definitely getting my purchase again when I next upgrade my Motherboard
Just be careful that Gigabyte Customer Support is kinda bad lately. People having issues when doing RMA.
Go for MSI
Unless your next CPU upgrade is an 10th or 11th gen Intel processor, don't base your decision on this video. Any particular manufacturer's products can vary wildly from one generation to another, so wait for reviews on whatever specific motherboard you're getting.
@@mochabean5042 well I’m gonna get a B560 board and an 11600KF to go with it
@@deadtake2664 The B560 chipset can't overclock, no point in getting a K series chip if you aren't overclocking. Why not just go with an 11400F? Could buy yourself a new SSD with the price difference lol
The first board was nothing but Phantom Roadkill. Low grade spare components slapped on a piece of burnt toast.😎
Oh this will bring interesting results for the OC formula, really hyped for some people doing OCing on that board
Asrock Z590 Phantom Gaming 4.. wow my Raspberry Pi has more IO
Bought the Z590 UD due to Buildzoid recommendation and glad it did well, got it at around $170 and gonna pair it with the i7 10700K
I remember when ASRock was a good cheap option even for K sku CPU's in the LGA1155 and 1150 days. Even the cheaper models weren't too bad at what they do. But unfortunately, it seems that their budget offerings falls short of what Intel CPU's require to run out of spec
I build my pc with i5 10400 an asrock phantom 4 and still no problems. Thermals are pretty solid and i'm not even using a graphic card. I play mostly esports and i'm using 16 gb ram 3200 vengeance and it's very nice build. I never used asrock but for the chipset...i think it's good price and very satisfied with the performance.
Thanks to this series i was able to choose my msi b550 tomahawk knowing exactly what the vrm can handle
Thank you for your hard work. Its really helpfull
Steve, B560 testing with something like a locked 10700 and 10900 could be very interesting ^^. Those CPUs have quite the price cuts recently so they are viable high core count options for cheaper if you don't plan to overclock but might want to have the power limits removed for that extra performance.
Wonder how many people like me couldn't care about Intel, the motherboards or the vrm performance but....still watched the whole video because...it's hardware unboxed
it's also good to see how the manufacturers are doing. if they can't hit the mark with an intel board then i will doubt them for an AMD board
Gaming X cost 160 bucks in my country right now and I really like it can roll on 3200 mhz ram right out of the box with 11 gen processor
Please test out the Affordable B560 boards as well. Thanks
Time for dat annual blacklisted by Assrock. Go Steveeeee XD
I went for a MSI Torpedo to pair with my 11400.
It'll be awesome for future upgrading to a K processor.
I've yet to install it but damn it is a beautiful board.
Pretty disappointing that so many of these rather expensive boards still don‘t come with integrated IO shields.
please do a itx vrm benchmark comparison , your a legend
We NEED to see this for AM4 boards.
I can't wait to see the B560 videos.
I really like the style of the MSI B590-A Pro. The gray lines on the black board look cool
Cool! I'm planning on getting an 11600K too so that's nice it was included.
Thanks for the video! I eagerly expect a B560 lineup :)
b560 test would be nice. Thanks in advance.
The problem with Steve doing this testing is that as soon as he reccommends a motherboard, it instantly sells out on newegg. When I needed a board for my ryzen 3700x I bought the motherboard he recommended. I should have bought two. I ordered within minutes of the video going live and an hour later they were sold out. Any time HU and GN recommend a product it becomes an instant sellout. When they BOTH recommend the same product, good luck getting one. Both sites have tremendous reputations due to their honest testing and high standards of ethical behavior. When it comes to buying hardware, these two sites have become the only sites I really trust.
Thank you and sorry :)
The editorial direction has not changed.
Excellent review. I got the Asus Tough Gaming - quite happy with it.
Hello! I really like your reviews, I always watch a lot of useful information and enjoy keeping it up !!!
Appreciate the heads up! I’m totally dropping asrock x570 tachi 👍
It also hurts ASRock because people like me who haven't built a computer in 8 years is looking for mobos and I see they sell a really cheap Z590 that gets bad reviews so I immediately tell myself to stay away from that brand. Little did I know they also make some nice quality mobos as well. Too late, Z590 ASUS TUF was already ordered.
I always go with the Gigabyte motherboards. I'll definitely looking forward for next tier op of Motherboards video. Planning to upgrade my Motherboard and CPU. Looking at the i9 10900K for 380 euro. Since the 11 series are a disaster.
Same here, for the motherboard choice
I'd still buy an Asrock Phantom Gaming 4/ac, because it has wifi, and OC potential. For a 11600k this seems like a great board if you need wifi, and OC. I don't care about 80c VRM thermals. That's very well within spec.
There is no confidence that 11th gen is going to be around very long or very popular.
thanks, could you check the h570 boards since they overclock ram now they are a lot more attractive for around 100 dollar price tag
It still kills me that ASRock doesn't do well in these test because the x570 pro4 I have (and b350 pro 4) is one of the better lower end x570 motherboards.
The X570 Pro4 has a weaker VRM than the Z590 Phantom Gaming 4 (8 phases instead of 6, but only 2 MOSFETs per phase instead of 4), but Intel 11th gen CPUs need a lot more power than Ryzen. ASRock just doesn't seem to have properly caught on to how much power these CPUs need, or how the other manufacturers are dealing with it by massively upgrading their VRMs.
Still super happy with my MSI Z490-A pro, bought based on your budget z490 mobos review.
i went with the gaming edge, then it came faulty and got a strix-e, ik its a more expensive board but... worth, the z490-a pro from msi was too basic, i mean it had the important stuff, power and z chipset, that's it, cheap too
Just bought myself a MSI MAG B460M MORTAR WIFI thanks to one of your older videos showing it outperforming ASRock's Z490 Phantom Gaming 4. This one made me all the happier about my decision.
Thanks HU Team, always my go to for VRM performance reviews. A+
that phantom 4 vrm heatsink is way too small... but the pro4 is great improvement over Z490 pro4 last year... seems asrock need to redesign or delete the phantom gaming 4
3:47 Steve picking his nose while doing b-rolls. /s
I was very surprised that AsRock released Z590 Phantom Gaming with so weak VRM section, much below any other Z590. Their Pro4 and Steel Legend B560 boards wipe the floor with anything in their price range, so some AsRock haters will have a hard time digesting the results when they come out.
This video
AsRock: Ah shit, here we go again.
I have the Gigabyte Z590 Gaming X.
No complaints so far. Really good pricing with this many features.
Please do the cheap b560 board testing!
Love these straight forward thumbnails. xD
That Z590 is really the best selling platform of Intel !
All the latest technology for a low price - and future proof for the next generations to come !
Well done Intel !
I was searching for gigabyte z590 ud review then this review pops up. Thank you.
The PRO4 series used to be for midrange B boards. It shows how terrible the intel platform is when those midrange brand are put on the overprised Z platform
Very happy with my MSI Z590A Pro. Almost went for the ASRock but the knowledgeable tech at MSY advised me to go for the MSI.
I built a 12400f with the ASRock Phantom gaming and I’ll have to disagree with you. The board and bios were excellent. Yes, the heat sinks were small……..but they were all metal without the large plastic cover on them. The 12400f ran beautifully on this board.
Great video and really solidified my recent z590 purchase. Wouldn't pair a asrock board with more than a 11400f at this point. They also bit me back in the AM3+ days with a stock clocked FX-8120 and 8350. I picked up a Asus Tuf z590 recently and am pairing it with a 10900 65w tdp. Gaming at 4k and paired with a Noctua D15 this thing should run cold for a very long time (coming from a 4790k so trust me, non K is still a huge upgrade even with a slow base clock). Yea I know I didn't need a Z board for a locked chip, but extra pci-e lanes and typically better features & thermals.
I was pc builder and these videos help me A LOT understanding the value of motherboards and the mess that latest CPU starting from Intel are making with customers. I think that some motherboard makers shouldn't reccomend certain CPU over their motherboard. Asus Prime and Asrock for example couldn't tell to use nothing more than a 11600k to their entry Z590 boards...
I don't still understand the existence of certain products.
Ugh. Those horrible wifi wires on the Phantom. For $170? Are you kidding, Asrock? Shame on you. Also, thanks Steve!
The "phantom" bit refers to the magic smoke that will seep out of your case if you try to run that board with any OC. These tests are under perfect conditions, imagine the same board in a more constrained or dirty case (As is the case with MANY builds focused on glass before ventilation, sadly) and with a thirsty GPU like a 3000 series running how and blowing hot air towards the VRM. That will end well.
Love motherboard test from you.
thx for the review of these motherboards
Please test H410, H470, B460, H510, H570, B560 VRM too
Just read the title and already knew asrock was going to take an L on this one.
They're usually good with AMD boards
@@martinrogers8465 guess intel is getting crappier motherboards now lol
@@ademiravdic ohh how the turn tables lol.
Thanks for the insight.
Saw the Asrock logo and knew the kind of roast Steve was about to deliver
thx for objective reviewers like you
Glad I chose Z490-P instead of Z590 Pro4 and Z590-P
Amazing video, thank you very much.
Plz also do b560 mobo vrm tests 🙂
Good thing I have the ASRock z590 Extreme which was actually cheaper than the PG 4 at the time I got it
Asrock Phantom Gaming: because your pc will be in a cloud of smoke
the first time I listened to the intro I thought I heard steve saying "It's that time of the month" and had to rewatch it
After owning an ASRock X470 Taichi, I am done with them next time I upgrade my motherboard. While the X470 Taichi has an amazing VRM and cooling, the BIOS's have a terrible time getting correct auto settings when setting XMP on most AM4 motherboards. You almost always have to manually enter memory controller settings into it to get the system to run stable. I'm done. I only bought the ASRock board vs the MSI one because of GPP, but I wish I'd have gone with the MSI board now..