nope, David Munshi and co. were never part of the Pathos II team. they're only referenced later as the authors of the legacy scans included with the Nakajima Neurograph development kit. Catherine explains this when you find your own scan in her lab. both Munshi and Simon (the original from the 21st century) died many years before the events of Pathos II and the Ark project.
Interesting thoughts just for fun but clearly 100% wrong. The game explains itself very well, there's no good motives to put Simon through some simulated test. People planning his car accident is stupid since there's no way they could ensure he'd injure his brain, he could die, he could break a leg, he could be fine etc. Simon died around a month after his scan, a copy of that scan was then woken up by the WAU inside a corpse in a diving suit in the hopes that he would restart it's main power source (which he did) because it had been switched off and its back up generator would have depleted eventually, this is a proper motive that makes sense. Even if people did for some reason want to make a simulation to test Simon in for no reason, why would they bother putting him in an underwater facility in the future? Wouldn't the whole point to be to make it indistinguishable from reality? Making a much more normal in Simon's current year would be much more convincing.
James Gillam haven’t seen the video yet but from the start it seemed like it could all be a simulation because one pamphlet at the beginning says the scan will “copy” his brain and test it to fiend the best cure.
Very interesting theory, but from what I recall in the game, Munshi isn't ever part of the research team at Pathos-II, only that Catherine bases her studies off of his research and testing (with Simon)
(crazed jester) mind if i leave a link in the Descriptions below when i make a video thats been inspired about this video but its vary VARY VARY DIFFERENT!. I am gona have it at the end of my Highlights video i played the game on my channel however a number of things did not feel right at all.
I appreciate the theory, but I'd say it's doesn't make much sense. A good point you made though, was that Simon had brain damage when his brain was scanned, so it could be quite likely that the damage also got transferred. But since it is never specified what was wrong, I don't think one can really use it for much since "brain damage" is so vague.
I think the biggest piece of evidence to support this theory that I'm surprised no one is talking about is the ARK survey. Unless you skipped it there is a survey that Simon takes twice in the game, once shortly after he discovers he is in a robotic body, and another at the very end of the game when he is on the ARK. Both surveys are identical, it's all a test.
What do you mean? That survey is supposed to be in the ARK. The one at Lambda (in the real world) was just a preview of it (for whoever was working on it). The idea behind re-using it in the game was to give the player a nostalgic feel. To help him understand how their opinion on the whole idea has changed as they progressed through the game and whether or not the ending affected it.
Not a big fan of this theory mainly because I found the game's actual story so thrilling, but I think what the OP meant was that the two surveys found in the game could be initial indications that Simon is in a visual reality. We know that there are two ARK simulations: The first one (the one in Lambda, if this theory were true) is a cruel test by the testers to see how Simon will react to the world should it meet a terrible fate (maybe it was to prepare an impending event or the Impact Event itself), and the second one (the one at the end of the game) is their resolve to a paradise if such a destruction event were to occur. Honestly, it can work either way if anyone stretches the theory far enough.
Literally one of the best games ever made, as a fan of horror games I can honestly say this was without a doubt the most terrifying and dread inducing gaming experience I've ever had.
nope, David Munshi and co. were never part of the Pathos II team. they're only referenced later as the authors of the legacy scans included with the Nakajima Neurograph development kit. Catherine explains this when you find your own scan in her lab. both Munshi and Simon (the original from the 21st century) died many years before the events of Pathos II and the Ark project.
Interesting thoughts just for fun but clearly 100% wrong. The game explains itself very well, there's no good motives to put Simon through some simulated test. People planning his car accident is stupid since there's no way they could ensure he'd injure his brain, he could die, he could break a leg, he could be fine etc. Simon died around a month after his scan, a copy of that scan was then woken up by the WAU inside a corpse in a diving suit in the hopes that he would restart it's main power source (which he did) because it had been switched off and its back up generator would have depleted eventually, this is a proper motive that makes sense. Even if people did for some reason want to make a simulation to test Simon in for no reason, why would they bother putting him in an underwater facility in the future? Wouldn't the whole point to be to make it indistinguishable from reality? Making a much more normal in Simon's current year would be much more convincing.
James Gillam haven’t seen the video yet but from the start it seemed like it could all be a simulation because one pamphlet at the beginning says the scan will “copy” his brain and test it to fiend the best cure.
Very interesting theory, but from what I recall in the game, Munshi isn't ever part of the research team at Pathos-II, only that Catherine bases her studies off of his research and testing (with Simon)
Nick Orie Munshi is long dead since it's like 100 years later
Well, I prefer it will stay theory. It just spoils the whole plot which is pretty serious itself.
The developers confirmed that yes, it is real.
the end of soma really hit me, it made me think about the meaning of life and what it means to be human. good vid by the way
Yup, very fascinating game. And equally as disturbing.
Thank you!
+VG TI yes anything that questions life itself can gut disturbing xP
+Kevlar for days Haha, this game is like an existential crisis times 1,000.
+VG TI yes ,exactly the writing is on point if it makes you think. keep up the good work btw
hope you have a great holidays :D
Hey, thank you! I'll do my best. Hope you have great holidays as well. :D
(crazed jester) mind if i leave a link in the Descriptions below when i make a video thats been inspired about this video but its vary VARY VARY DIFFERENT!. I am gona have it at the end of my Highlights video i played the game on my channel however a number of things did not feel right at all.
What if the scan was a simulation there was a display at the beginning when he got in the chair. The chair had a screen.
i feel like this theory makes sense kinda but it is a little bit lazy.
But there is a very large spectrum of brain damage it is not specifically said what he suffers from.
I appreciate the theory, but I'd say it's doesn't make much sense. A good point you made though, was that Simon had brain damage when his brain was scanned, so it could be quite likely that the damage also got transferred. But since it is never specified what was wrong, I don't think one can really use it for much since "brain damage" is so vague.
No Facts. Not worth 10 mins.
I think the biggest piece of evidence to support this theory that I'm surprised no one is talking about is the ARK survey. Unless you skipped it there is a survey that Simon takes twice in the game, once shortly after he discovers he is in a robotic body, and another at the very end of the game when he is on the ARK. Both surveys are identical, it's all a test.
Elemity1 Exactly. As soon as I saw the second survey I though, Oh no, its the dream within a dream all over again. The Matrix stuff haha
What do you mean? That survey is supposed to be in the ARK. The one at Lambda (in the real world) was just a preview of it (for whoever was working on it). The idea behind re-using it in the game was to give the player a nostalgic feel. To help him understand how their opinion on the whole idea has changed as they progressed through the game and whether or not the ending affected it.
Not a big fan of this theory mainly because I found the game's actual story so thrilling, but I think what the OP meant was that the two surveys found in the game could be initial indications that Simon is in a visual reality. We know that there are two ARK simulations: The first one (the one in Lambda, if this theory were true) is a cruel test by the testers to see how Simon will react to the world should it meet a terrible fate (maybe it was to prepare an impending event or the Impact Event itself), and the second one (the one at the end of the game) is their resolve to a paradise if such a destruction event were to occur. Honestly, it can work either way if anyone stretches the theory far enough.
Literally one of the best games ever made, as a fan of horror games I can honestly say this was without a doubt the most terrifying and dread inducing gaming experience I've ever had.
Lost me at Dr Munshi caused the accident cuz they wanted to give Simon brain damage and proceed with the experiment. Facepalm.
Mind=blown
Awesome! Keep up the awesome work. I like how you really thought through what the game had put for you to belive.
+AwesomeGoldenGamers That was the idea! Thank you very much.