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The people complaining here about the french player tells me the french player did his job perfectly. Congrats to him for managing to replicate the assertiveness of french diplomacy.
@@Zeelandian_Manfor the part about Guinea, I looked it up and apparently Guinea was extremely not profitable and cost more than it made with its modern gdp being only 1.3 billion usd while for 60 million francs converted to modern day usd is 3 billion which is a great deal, as for the connecting parts in Angola you’ll just need to wait for the next video ;)
I really love this rolepaly scenario. And the participants here are well-versed in this period of history. Everyone did a great job at representing their country.
@@tubumafu232 I can’t give any spoilers on the part 2 (for my families sake) but the whole conference was pre-recorded weeks earlier and this is just an edited and mapped version of it
BRO WHY IS FRANCE SO GREEDY THIS VIDEO 😭😭they only give other powers port cities (Spain and Belgium), and they want AAAAALL of the Guinea region for themselves
This is what france historically wanted in the region. But still is a bit unrealistic for all of those states to not put up resistance. Britain was the closest to it, and they were just being indecisive
With what? Your minds? Until 1942 there were still italian pockets and for the first half of 1940 all of the horn of Africa was Italian @@ThePanEthiopian
@@ThePanEthiopian that's not something you should be proud of but anyway, Africa is a lot bigger than Europe so population is something more of a fair comparison also because most of the land in Ethiopia is mountains
if I was the Russian diplomat, I would have offered Italy the Ogaden region while the core of Ethiopia was a Russian ally. Possibly cite the Russian colonies in northern Djbouti as a springboard for Ethiopian sea access. Maybe incentivise France to give up Djbouti to Ethiopia by supporting them getting northern Ghana from Britain (though not touching German Togoland) and having naval access in Djbouti if they gave up the whole colony to Ethiopia
Portugal. He argued for all of Africa which was obviously not gonna happen and in doing so probably lost most of his credibility and bargaining power with the other European Powers. As a lover and player of Portugal, in my opinion I would've either put all my chips into bargaining for a larger Guinea colony or for a land connection between Angola and Mozambique.
The french were very greedy here, and the fact the other powers werent putting up any resistance.... im gonna need to join one of these to make sure that this dosent happen. Maintain that balance of power
@@ManFromChicago yeah but they were pushing for everything, only giving out trade ports or cities, the amount of natural resources they own with all of that and the amount of money they make from it is absurd
@@Videntis.History bro when u gonna do part 2 for the spain and portugal united video the whole reason i subscribed to u is cuz i wanted a part 2. im unscubribing bro fts
It would make more sense if The Netherlands had colonized the congo instead of Belgium since they actually have a History of colonization in the continent if you consider they had South Africa, coast of Ghana and trading posts in Angola.
I hope the British, German, and Portuguese GP should really give a back in Diplomacy. Regardless of how pushy France is being, he’ll be rejected if two or more GP’s deny it. Aka, don’t let the French push y’all.
I was Portugal for this and here’s some behind the scene insight: the parts about Sierra Leon and the Gold Coast took 30 MINUTES which was excruciating to sit through
I would have brought a list of clear requests. As an italian this would be: Non negotiable: Morocco's northern ports (for access to the atlantic), Suez (for access to the red sea), East Africa (Eritrea, Ethiopia, Djibouti and somalia), the fourth shore (libya and tunisia) and some key parts of Nigeria with a land connection to Libya, possibly throught Niger Negotiable: All of Nigeria (we recognize british interests there and are open to a partition) and Egypt (with Sudan) Then in the Congo and Southern Africa I would just ask for resource rights and some major ports to project military power in case of conflict
Australia out of no where with their Kombat Wombats, mag pie dive bombers, attack dingos being lead by the Emu marines sweep in and crush all the European powers!
Portugal will be happy Mozambique, Angola, Cape Verde, são Tomé, principe, guinea bissau and: Annobon, Casemance (we were there before the French) Congo-kinshasa (it had been granted to us before the Belgians got in the way -this come genocide free-) Zimbabew, Malawi and Zambia (the pink map). We will be the historically not resourcefull and because of that not forceful enough colonisers...not meddling too much and not racially too discriminatory. Luanda is gorgeous so it gets to be the capital of a massive Central African State powerfull enough to develop and do its own thing, speaking portuguese and dancing Kuduro and with a nice alliance with Brazil and Portugal where they would soon be the biggest portuguese speaking nation and capable enough to make sure the neighbours do not genocide or civil war or dictatorrlue themselves too much..that is my dream.
@@Videntis.History Not the entire world. Contrary to popular belief, the Treaty of Tordesillas only divided "newly discovered lands." It explicitly mentioned these lands and these lands only. They don't get to conquer the entirety of Europe. The video should split Africa, the Americas, etc. along the lines set by the Treaty of Tordesillas (ratified by the two powers in 1494 and setting a meridian west of the Cape Verde islands to divide the two powers) and the Treaty of Saragossa (ratified in 1529 and accounts for the lands of Asia). So basically all of these lands minus Europe divided along these lines. The video could be titled something like, "What if the European Powers recognized the colonial claims of Portugal and Spain". I'm not saying to automatically give these lands to the two powers but to make it so other powers wouldn't interfere with their colonization attempts. Keep everything non-colonial related the same, like WW1, WW2, etc.
Do you have a similar game with immigration to European countries? I would like to send 50000 20-30 year old men from the most religiously archaic parts of Morocco, Algeria and Lybia to Southern France.
@@Videntis.History strong-armed everyone into doing what they wanted and effectively shut down *all* negotiations with them. Basically had the attitude of "It's mine or it's mine, your choice"
@@lEGOBOT2565 He was basically just an annoying pushy type who IRL would have just pissed off all the other diplomats and none of them would have agreed to anything he proposed.
For Germany I would have probably focused my efforts in the Congo primarily and not much else because then you could have justification to only aim for central Africa due not you not getting much else besides it.
Italy got lucky but if I was I talk I would cede Ethiopian all western inland territory and a somewhat short panhandle. Then I would gain most of south western areas and Somalia. Plus northern regions. Then for giving Ethiopian with a decent amount of influence I would want to expand south
What did you expect here we have a couple people And possible history had a couple thousand people just doing the pole how they want or just doing chaos
I like PH but I think having votes for that kinda stuff always ends up with super dumb and unrealistic maps, while having live players represent with actual weighted votes makes more realistic but fun changes
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How can you become part of one of these?
@@PrussiaAustriaConfederal join my discord
@@Videntis.History I have, but good to know
@@Videntis.History ok
>be Portugal
>Claim all Africa and offer just one port of the other's choosing
>"Can I have Alexandria?"
>"No"
Chad
I would’ve been happy to give away more useless ports but they insisted on important parts of africa
Absolutely based and redpilled
@@redpizza6929 why thank you
Refuses to elaborate further
as a portuguese, Africa is ours
The people complaining here about the french player tells me the french player did his job perfectly. Congrats to him for managing to replicate the assertiveness of french diplomacy.
I can’t believe I didn’t get all of Africa, my pitch was great imo
were u portugal?
@@lunalingo4461 yes
Pope said so
If I were you I would've either bargained souly for a larger Guinea colony or bargained for a land connection between Angola and Mozambique.
@@Zeelandian_Manfor the part about Guinea, I looked it up and apparently Guinea was extremely not profitable and cost more than it made with its modern gdp being only 1.3 billion usd while for 60 million francs converted to modern day usd is 3 billion which is a great deal, as for the connecting parts in Angola you’ll just need to wait for the next video ;)
Portugal - I clame all of Africa
Belgium - I clame all of portugal
Real thing
Luxemburg - I clame all of Belgium 😏
claim*
As the Spanish player, this video will forever be my reminder on how harder I fumbled the bag
Good luck I'm supporting you
@@machocoder22w Well for your own sake, you should probably change who your supporting
At least you got a port city I guess...
With the extra voting power you got. yes, you fumbled the bag.
@@ducksdog9996 Atleast in this world, Franco can’t start a civil war with the African corps
As the Danish player, I see this as a huge success.
as i danish guy, i support the assessment
You did our country very well
Still can’t believe we voted on you gaining togoland lmao
Considering Denmark got jack in the real one
I'd say so as well, you got Denmark some actual colonies instead of nothing
Everyone gets a port!
I was Portugal and did it for the memes lol
@@ManFromChicago in an alternate universe . It was accepted, and the video only lasted a couple minutes.
@@stargazer-elite would’ve been better than listening in on the Gold Coast for 40 minutes
That’s how it is baby, I get paid, you get a port
How about we get colonies next time?
Myth of consensual sale of Sierra Leone
Britain: "I consent."
France: "I consent."
Germany: "I don't."
You get a port and you get a port and you get a port!
Everyone gets a port- Oh France nice hammer
Austria ruined it by wanting a port sadly
oversimplified?
Now to the serious stuff-africa is in severe economic ruin
Africa
As the French Player, I think that I did pretty good, this was so much fun, the big blue blob goes to west Africa! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
You were very annoying, sorry
I was just trying to be assertive, got to be forward if it m going to accomplish my goals
You did great! My favourite statesman in the vid
aka ports guy
@@WilliamFlea you were even worse in the sequel 💀
Basically France is a New Jersey Used Car salesman.
I gotta a deal for you! 🤣
It was a good deal, great deal
@@WilliamFlea that’s got to be the greatest salesman I’ve ever seen
Found your content from the "my viewers remade the Versailles" and I loved it, keep up the work
Awesome, thank you!
I like how when the viewers speak the F1 radio notification sound plays
Suggestion: Sebastián of Portugal wins the battle of Alcacer Quibir!
As moroccan HELL NAW
@@ziyadrgb9584Hell yeahhhh
@@carinaslima nuh uh
@@ziyadrgb9584 HELL YeAH
@@carinaslima why
I really love this rolepaly scenario. And the participants here are well-versed in this period of history. Everyone did a great job at representing their country.
Thanks for the kind words
We tryin Vienna again well let’s do this one more time
My god is this going to end? I think there were 4 or 5 already
Portugal made best roleplay ever! Thats how i imagine the real conference started 😂
That’s what I was going for lol
Nice
France just gave us a masterclass in colonial era diplomacy 👏😂
Where's the Biblically accurate portugal? (Pope said Portugal should get all africa)
its at the start of the video
@@Videntis.History Ik but they don't get it 😭
@@ducksdog9996trust me I’m more heartbroken than you are
@@ManFromChicago take the congo because Portugal converted them to christianity and the kingdom of kongo is a vassal of Portugal
@@tubumafu232 I can’t give any spoilers on the part 2 (for my families sake) but the whole conference was pre-recorded weeks earlier and this is just an edited and mapped version of it
BRO WHY IS FRANCE SO GREEDY THIS VIDEO 😭😭they only give other powers port cities (Spain and Belgium), and they want AAAAALL of the Guinea region for themselves
they just wanted what they got irl
actually got less than irl so far
Meh I sold it for 3 billion modern usd so it was worth it
@@thecreaturebehindyou no they didn't they pushed for what they got irl AND a bunch of stuff that other great powers got irl
This is what france historically wanted in the region. But still is a bit unrealistic for all of those states to not put up resistance. Britain was the closest to it, and they were just being indecisive
As the Sweden-Norway player, I approve 🇸🇪🇳🇴
You have to push for the Congo, you are the best nation for it in all categories.
We already did the entire map in one day, but I won’t spoil what happened…
20:03 1896 moment
More like a 1935-37 moment
@@idk-cj8mn we still fought until 1941
With what? Your minds? Until 1942 there were still italian pockets and for the first half of 1940 all of the horn of Africa was Italian @@ThePanEthiopian
@@sisi4508 we held lands comparable to the size of Southern Italy
@@ThePanEthiopian that's not something you should be proud of but anyway, Africa is a lot bigger than Europe so population is something more of a fair comparison also because most of the land in Ethiopia is mountains
if I was the Russian diplomat, I would have offered Italy the Ogaden region while the core of Ethiopia was a Russian ally. Possibly cite the Russian colonies in northern Djbouti as a springboard for Ethiopian sea access. Maybe incentivise France to give up Djbouti to Ethiopia by supporting them getting northern Ghana from Britain (though not touching German Togoland) and having naval access in Djbouti if they gave up the whole colony to Ethiopia
the russian guy was such a pussy he just gave away ethiopia for nothing
wtf happened with tangier anyway did russia get anything or what?
WE NEED THE REST OF THIS VIDEO :)
I actually thought you had like 70K subs at least with this quality, I'll make sure to push your channel to my friends, and comment for algorithm
0:53 I agree that you should do one for the Congress of Vienna, it would be very interesting.
Who do you think is winning and losing so far?
britain majourly they r just giving giving up all thier lands in west africa without a competition
France is doing pretty good in west Africa and Italy is doing better than in real life.
France
Portugal.
He argued for all of Africa which was obviously not gonna happen and in doing so probably lost most of his credibility and bargaining power with the other European Powers. As a lover and player of Portugal, in my opinion I would've either put all my chips into bargaining for a larger Guinea colony or for a land connection between Angola and Mozambique.
Victory
France
Loss
Spain
That is way too cool and interesting.. definitely need to see the other parts!
More to come!
My family is from Silesia to! (When it was German we owned a hotel and I have been there it was really cool it is now owned by a really nice lady.
when the time traveler kicks a rock
The french were very greedy here, and the fact the other powers werent putting up any resistance.... im gonna need to join one of these to make sure that this dosent happen. Maintain that balance of power
France pushed around Spain and that’s it, he got scammed on buying Guinea though
@@ManFromChicago yeah but they were pushing for everything, only giving out trade ports or cities, the amount of natural resources they own with all of that and the amount of money they make from it is absurd
well venti IS a french nationlist wanker, so that doesnt surprise me
@@ManFromChicago whys britain and russia just agreeing to whatever france is offering them tho?
They just grabbed Ethiopia like that lol
Definitely have to be apart of the Congress of Vienna one! Also a part 2.
Make part 2
Love from France, your vids are great. Is there anywhere we can find the music you use for your vids? The song at the start of this one is great
the 1st song is "Deus, Patria, Rei"
Please do a part 2!
Anybody notice the Portuguese song at the beginning?
What about it
@@Videntis.History bro when u gonna do part 2 for the spain and portugal united video the whole reason i subscribed to u is cuz i wanted a part 2. im unscubribing bro fts
@@lunalingo4461 well aren't you an entitled child
@@fullsendtictic bro i was kidding
Are the remaining parts/part already recorded? Looking forwards to seeing it/them
Banger.
Imagine not getting the Congo 😂😂😂
@@ManFromChicago at least I made the video entertaining
@@Sithbuilder1 cope
@@ManFromChicago You should have gotten all of Africa
@@levisgamingandaviationchannel agreed
Portugal claiming all africa was historically accurate
And not also for the treaty of tordesellas but the fact that portugal owned all the ports
Very good! Part 2 please
Videntis! Love your content! You're amazing 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I‘m polish so when i heard that you forfathers were polish you got a sub
Making a part 2 is criminal
It would make more sense if The Netherlands had colonized the congo instead of Belgium since they actually have a History of colonization in the continent if you consider they had South Africa, coast of Ghana and trading posts in Angola.
I hope the British, German, and Portuguese GP should really give a back in Diplomacy. Regardless of how pushy France is being, he’ll be rejected if two or more GP’s deny it.
Aka, don’t let the French push y’all.
Nah you should’ve seen Germany original claims where France loses Algeria and gains nothing and Britain gains all of Angola and Mozambique
Tf is the British and French negotiating 😭
I was Portugal for this and here’s some behind the scene insight: the parts about Sierra Leon and the Gold Coast took 30 MINUTES which was excruciating to sit through
So when do we get a video with African nations colonizing Europe?
Part 2, please.
As a Eritrean thx god its not the french😂
You can have 1 port of your choosing
Can I have Alexandria?
No! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 cracked me up
I would have brought a list of clear requests.
As an italian this would be:
Non negotiable: Morocco's northern ports (for access to the atlantic), Suez (for access to the red sea), East Africa (Eritrea, Ethiopia, Djibouti and somalia), the fourth shore (libya and tunisia) and some key parts of Nigeria with a land connection to Libya, possibly throught Niger
Negotiable: All of Nigeria (we recognize british interests there and are open to a partition) and Egypt (with Sudan)
Then in the Congo and Southern Africa I would just ask for resource rights and some major ports to project military power in case of conflict
This conference was a lot more of f’ing around than trying to be this serious
bruh this guys worse than france
Who invited those damn danes to this meeting? I vote to give Denmark to Germany and Greenland to the british
Yeah...what have the Danes to offer Africa? LEGO?
No. Germany should go to Denmark.
@@formalist6096 No Denmark should go to Brazil🇧🇷
@@michaelchance6125 ironic, considering I’m both Danish and Brazilian.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Wsg aml
try this out with the ww2 aftermath, the west and the east dividing germany
Seems fun
Literally fell off the seat when faccetta nera started playing
Australia out of no where with their Kombat Wombats, mag pie dive bombers, attack dingos being lead by the Emu marines sweep in and crush all the European powers!
RAHHH, the Portuguese song in the background is awesome. PORTUGAL CARALHO!!!
i love that song, i wish they still had the monarchy
@@Videntis.History Yeah tbh the ending of the monarchy didn't solve anything
@@Videntis.HistoryBased
@@Videntis.HistoryMe too
dayum france being greedy
As the inverse Obi Wan quote goes, “so civilized “.
Imagine the presidents of the countries in which being discussed in the video watched this, they sure gonna do it again 💀
Video starts at 2:25
Portugal will be happy Mozambique, Angola, Cape Verde, são Tomé, principe, guinea bissau and: Annobon, Casemance (we were there before the French) Congo-kinshasa (it had been granted to us before the Belgians got in the way -this come genocide free-) Zimbabew, Malawi and Zambia (the pink map). We will be the historically not resourcefull and because of that not forceful enough colonisers...not meddling too much and not racially too discriminatory. Luanda is gorgeous so it gets to be the capital of a massive Central African State powerfull enough to develop and do its own thing, speaking portuguese and dancing Kuduro and with a nice alliance with Brazil and Portugal where they would soon be the biggest portuguese speaking nation and capable enough to make sure the neighbours do not genocide or civil war or dictatorrlue themselves too much..that is my dream.
As the Portuguese player I did not go this in depth with their goals lol
@@ManFromChicago bro wdym u literally went balls deep and claimed the whole thing
I was about to subscribe then i realised i already subscribed
What is Austria doing here
If you'll do something like this in the near future, how could I join?
Join my discord, I will put an announcement on there
Thanks! Link?
@@Alessandro.Mucciocheck his channel
What if Venice united Italy?
disgusting, Florence and the Medici are the only way
@@Videntis.History damn bro whats venice
@@Videntis.History
W take
Ethiopian independence is indisputable.
Lmao😂
Conquered and colonized nonetheless
france tried to take so much of africa holy
You should make a video on what if the Treaty of Tordesillas was upheld.
so for just Africa, or that Spain and Portugal actually become the two dominant powers of Europe and conquer the entire world
yes
@@Videntis.History Not the entire world. Contrary to popular belief, the Treaty of Tordesillas only divided "newly discovered lands." It explicitly mentioned these lands and these lands only. They don't get to conquer the entirety of Europe. The video should split Africa, the Americas, etc. along the lines set by the Treaty of Tordesillas (ratified by the two powers in 1494 and setting a meridian west of the Cape Verde islands to divide the two powers) and the Treaty of Saragossa (ratified in 1529 and accounts for the lands of Asia). So basically all of these lands minus Europe divided along these lines. The video could be titled something like, "What if the European Powers recognized the colonial claims of Portugal and Spain". I'm not saying to automatically give these lands to the two powers but to make it so other powers wouldn't interfere with their colonization attempts. Keep everything non-colonial related the same, like WW1, WW2, etc.
Next time you do the Congress of Vienna I want to be there as Britain
(It's tea here)
A video just like this about decolonisation would be interesting.
exactly that would be the perfect time to fix african borders to avoid future conflicts
Lore of My viewers redid the Scramble for Africa LIVE! Momentum 100
WE FIXIN AFRICA'S BORDERS WITH THIS ONE
ye bro gl with that
france got scammed by france so bad 😭
Russia should have just asked for Djibouti so it can have sagallo
honestly maybe also guarantee ethiopian independance ye but they just being pushed around by italy
Do you have a similar game with immigration to European countries? I would like to send 50000 20-30 year old men from the most religiously archaic parts of Morocco, Algeria and Lybia to Southern France.
Wouldn’t Ethiopians be considered Coptic Christians, rather than orthodox Christians?
France pissed me off, ngl
why
@@Videntis.History strong-armed everyone into doing what they wanted and effectively shut down *all* negotiations with them. Basically had the attitude of "It's mine or it's mine, your choice"
@@lEGOBOT2565 He was basically just an annoying pushy type who IRL would have just pissed off all the other diplomats and none of them would have agreed to anything he proposed.
@@mrXOwarrior exactly
Damn bro, I was just trying to get my claims, gotta be a bit forceful I thought
"I support an Italian Eritrea, Ethiopia, and Somalia"
*British Somaliland still exists in the video
So stupid
make a what if the principalities of Wallachia and moldavia never were conquered by the Ottomans.
Spain should've gotten more
To be fair, Spain was an overextended empire in decline at this time historically. Having less territory to manage is probably a blessing.
For Germany I would have probably focused my efforts in the Congo primarily and not much else because then you could have justification to only aim for central Africa due not you not getting much else besides it.
very sad day for Ethiopia
Seriously Portugal actually tried the, but the Pope said, when so many of these nations aren't Catholic anymore.
I only did it as a joke and didn’t take that part seriously, otherwise I would’ve made agreements over the port cities thing
big game from america here
Italy got lucky but if I was I talk I would cede Ethiopian all western inland territory and a somewhat short panhandle. Then I would gain most of south western areas and Somalia. Plus northern regions. Then for giving Ethiopian with a decent amount of influence I would want to expand south
Nice video
Thanks
@@Videntis.History i Hope this video get 10.000 like for pt 2
0:40 Deus, Pátria, Rei, Fidelidade!
What did you use for the map
Procreate
@@Videntis.Historyshhhh tell them to become a member to find out lol
@@Videntis.History Thank you want to try this with my friends
Still better than whatever Possible History's viewers did
What did you expect here we have a couple people
And possible history had a couple thousand people just doing the pole how they want or just doing chaos
I like PH but I think having votes for that kinda stuff always ends up with super dumb and unrealistic maps, while having live players represent with actual weighted votes makes more realistic but fun changes
@@Videntis.Historysó true
Egypt stays independent
Bro France was so annoying
right and so greedy for what?
and like Austria in Morocco like nahhh lil bro
@@Kakuzufan bro wtf did russia even get
did they just back down out of tangier
bro just imagine russian tangier
Just like real life
So he did a good job i guess kekw
Could you do a scramble for asia please ?
3:27 how did he pronounce Ceuta and Melilla like that????
Italy is not going to be able to conquer Ethiopia. When this becomes apparent, how will the other powers react?
Day 3 of Suggesting of What if the Byzantines repelled the Arab invasions
Ma Faccetta Nera 🗿🗿