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4:42. I'm a bit confused about how right-of-centre outlets not carrying left-of-centre critique of something said by someone right-of-centre is a "blind spot". Do they accuse the left of having a "blind spot" when the situation is the reverse? I think we can see just how "objective" _Ground News_ really is.
Gotta be honest, the news is (are?) among the last things I want to risk further exposure to nowadays, but I appreciate their support for the channel, all the same.
@@kgbgb3663 A lot of news is syndicated , via PA or similar and "Reach" / Trinity Mirror own a lot of local and nationals. Sometimes I read / watch Aj Jazeera/ Russia Today just to see their take on things even If I dont agree with them. the Jellygraph used to be better than the times for objective reporting but its scope and more opinion over recent years has ruined it for me
3:00 reminds me of my favourite Victorian joke. "I say, stationmaster, would it not have been better to put the station in the village where the people are?" "No, sir, the company thought it best to put it here, where the trains are."
@@nickchambers3935 France? Describe very well our high speed lines network. With station colloquially named after what is grown in the field nearby....
We're lucky he wasn't talking about Cockfosters :p This channel is required watching if you live in London, it manages to be informative and entertaining.
When I was young I was often taken on the train between Wimbledon and Croydon with my mum and brother. In those days Croydon was a place to go. We had a large old pram which could only be put in the front carriage as that had the space reserved for large goods. Anyway we'd done this journey many times and one day the driver of the train from Wimbledon asked if I wanted to drive the train. This was the 80s and so I sat on the lap of (probably) the guard whilst the driver sat in the other seat and I drove the train to Morden Road. I remember pressing buttons and pushing handles. I was about 3 or 4 at the tine.
I just love the fact that in this world of “normal jobs” there are ppl like you who do this sort of stuff and give us the first class factual entertainment programming that TV has largely lost!👏👏👏
The LSBCR South London Line from Victoria to London Bridge, when converted from overhead catenary to third rail by Southern Railway, converted the now surplus driving-cab power cars and classified them as 2SL (2-car South London) sets. They were definitely driving cab coaches, as they retained their flat roofs over the driving cabs where the pantographs had originally been (see brief glimpse of these trains on the video at 09:12). Around 1950, I used to get the train from Merton Park to Morden Halt Station to see my uncle who worked for Triang Toys in the industrial estate near the latter station and I knew the trains intimately. Their headcode was 2. They were scrapped around 1953.
French here, and since the UK is the birthplace of railways and London the birthplace of subways, there is a massive amount of historical fact that will interest any train nerd of the world behind many station and bits of railway of the UK. This example is perfect, this trackbed and station location started its life as the first horse drawn public tram line... (and Jago is a fantastic narrator and railway historian).
English here - because we were the first, we are also the worst, which means that every other country in the world can learn from our mistakes, which from the Victorian times to HS2 keep happening !
It got a mention but there was a surprising amount of industry very near to the station including well known Tri-ang toys, Connolly leather, William Morris fabrics and other factories on the Merton Industrial Estate.
I certainly remember the 2EPB that ran the shuttle in its last days waiting at platform 10 at Wimbledon to return to Croydon. Thankfully there were only 2 other trains an hour that used it as a through line. Now it is Tram only with all Thameslink trains using platform 9, still two an hour in each direction.
I only now understand the Surrey Iron Railway was originally using horses, not locomotives, for traction! That made a few things click in place. Thanks Jago!
There is, or used to be, some preserved iron rail from the Surrey Iron Railway in Purley Recreation Ground, Brighton Road, Purley. There were also a few stretches of trackbed visible between Croydon and Merstham…but I’m guessing with the construction of the M23 and all the housing that’s occurred since I was a lad back in the early 1950’s, it’s probably disappeared :-)
Cheerio. That video was great. I travelled from Merton Park to Wimbledon every morning in the early 1970s on the old rattlerly train. Lovely oldmanual signal box at Merton Park road crossing. Baton handover. Had to walk over a metal footbridge half way down the track. Now I travel on the tram almost daily to and from Wimbledon, Waddon Marsh and Croydon from Mitcham. Fantastic service. Clean and efficient. Hope the powers that be never, ever nationalise the railways.
Tramlink, continuing to be the shot in the arm to neglected commuter lines that were victims of attempted (or successful) closure by stealth. Very much like the Overground in that sense. That line and this station are, in many ways, better than it's ever been. Great video!
As some who doesn't travel, I often go on tram rides via the tram drivers pov videos on youtube. I spend much time in Holland, Germany and Poland. I love the trams and wish we could have them instead of buses but our roads aren't wide enough in a lot of places.
it's not just the provinces of Holland that have cities with trams, the province of Utrecht in The Netherlands does too. Trams can go through narrow streets, providing there's a no-stopping restriction for other vehicles.
Edd China on his street legal double bed. Had a go on it at Bill McAlpine's open day earlier this year. It was excellent. Nearly as excellent as your video, Jago. Many thanks.
I have little interest in either London or the details of various forms of public transport, but your videos are so well-made and entertaining, I watch them all. Thanks.
The building 13:15 into the video looks like something that could have been in a 70s or 80s "future" movie. Not too scary, but still had that 'vibe. 1975's Rollerball maybe?
I remember that line from 1986. I had a job on the Purley Way and the nearest stop was Waddon Marsh. Always a bit “in the middle of nowhere”, it was terrifying on a Winter evening.
Used this station fairly regularly around 1979 when I worked in Deer Park Road. It felt like a total backwater then more like a branch line deep in the country that avoided the Beeching axe.
Brilliant video thanks It's also the nearest station to Sun Hill Police Station from The Bill - filmed round the corner in Deer Park Road, complete with fake exterior, police, court and hospital interiors and entire fake street with bus stop which once you've seen it you can't stop seeing it still being used in ads and other TV shows today... you can see it on the satellite image on Google maps - behind the Wimbledon Studios...
Numerous fun times. They shot an episode of London's Burning on the adjacent industrial estate where gas lines were used to produce the fire in an old warehouse. Unfortunately the fire spread to an adjoining warehouse completely gutting it destroying half a million pounds in stock. What was so amusing for the onlookers was the fire engines packing up and driving away. When the real fire brigade arrived, they asked the police to close the road, only to discover that the police were a film unit from The Bill. It started an enquiry and things turned quite nasty. Laws were passed preventing film units wearing emergency service uniforms, or driving any vehicles marked as emergency services on a public road unless the road was closed for the filming. Prior to that The Bill shot quite a lot, where the general public produced the backdrop, so it made things very difficult. One of their favourite locations was Morden Sainsburys loading yard and car park. Another location was the Colliers Wood youth center, along with numerous houses behind Morden road station in Merton Park, including ours.
Used to be my nearest tram stop! Where you filmed was just the other side of the pub, and about a hundred yards away, from the house on Morden Road where I used to live.
I had to use this when I had a nursing placement in Mitcham. It was the best way of getting from the tram to the Northern Line at Morden, and it's a bit of a walk (although an out-of-station interchange I think)
Hiya Jago ive got on and off at Morden Road tram stop a few times when meeting up with my dad who worked at Thames Televison(Bill Set) down Deer park Road always a good stroll through the industrial estate. Ive also know the Balham-Morden stretch on the Northern line going way back back to the early 1960's Marc In Bletchley G6XEG
Thanks for another insight to London's transport, it brought back memories because as a youngster I lived in a flat within sight of the Morden tube station. Is this the same line that went through Mitcham, I seem to remember that was served by 2-Car DMU's. ....Drew
I've been watching these videos for several weeks now, but "I don't have any footage of Beddington Lane, so here's a bed" just earned you a subscribe 😂
Enjoying the car at 14:18. I'm guessing the men in it are unaccustomed to being merely extras in a shot of the front of a relatively unremarkable underground station.
FYI: the Croydon, Merstham & Godstone Railway (CMGR), an extension to the Surrey Iron Railway (SIR), opened in 1803. There's a nice footpath including a bit of its route just outside the M25 near Redhill.
For the avoidance of doubt, the "Godstone" in the title of the railway was an aspiration rather then a fact. It never actually got beyond Merstham quarry. I'm surprised they didn't put Portsmouth in the title, as that was another aspiration!
Have I mentioned the Stationmaster at Morden Road Halt ? He was killed in WW2 on a bomb strike somewhat leaving his two daughters effective orphans, mum went to school with one of them and knew her from the area until recently, I think she died about a year before covid (time goes so fast I cannot always remember - I will have to check 1939 register next time on free access days
Hey Jago - It looks like quite a 'Morden' Tram Line!!! 😉 Also I like your Title "...Morden Meets the Eye"!!! Very Good @ 11:54 - I like your "Bed Footage" - very funny!!! 😄🙂🚂🚂🚂
Awesome video, and btw, heres a suggestion Every train in the uk ranked based on their design and how useful they are, though if you find that will take too long then do a ranking for the london underground trains in terms of design, though it would have to be based on the look of the trains face since all of them kinda look the same with the red and white pattern. (Optional though.) Keep up the good work!
Yay! The Surrey Iron Railway (SIR) got mentioned again😀 Just one small nitpick this time, I know the building at 02:18 is called "Station Court" but is there any evidence that it was part of a station? From what I heard it was built as the house of a well-to-do merchant about the time SIR was being constructed. The arch led to the stables and a storage area at the rear. I assume the merchant saw a business opportunity in the SIR and wanted to be next to it.
I'm right near beddington Lane. You should pop in for a cuppa and a jaw some time :-) When the weathers nice i like going to Morden Road then walking up to the big sainsburys at colliers wood then bop back to mitcham common. Nice little trip out
Can't actually remember the old GLC trams in South London as we had moved to the suburbs when they were withdrawn, Nan was always going on about being crammed in on the lower deck amongst 20 odd standing passengers, not ladylike to go upstairs for her, she called them boneshakers as rattled, bounced and rolled side to side. She loved the Trolley Buses that replaced them, as did I. Even in the 60's I was chopping the old tarred Cedarwood blocks that surrounded the tram tracks for noise reduction for firewood at Nan's house, supplied by London Coal Merchants. They were lethal for cars and bikes when wet. The Croydon network should have gone double deck but it uses too much of the old rail tracks, a lot of the roads used still have the same lampposts that carried the tram and trolleybus wires and the new tram wires.
In his book 'Roads and Rails of London', author Charles Klapper recalled that sitting in front of a fireplace where salvaged wood tramway blocks were burning would risk being hit by pieces of hot gravel being spat into the room! Was this your experience? Thanks.
@@edwardsadler7515 Split for kindling, although Mother did often ask for me to bring some home from Gran's when getting low on Anthracite for the Aga. Both Nan and Mum always had a spark guard in front of the fires.
Good to read your comment…my dad took me as a small child on one of the very last trams in Croydon and I can still remember that unique sensation and sound of it moving on the track…there can’t be many of us that remember trams in London :-) As for trolleybuses, absolutely my favourite! Not just riding on them, my lord the acceleration! But going all over London on a Red Rover collecting bus numbers….still got my Ian Allen books lol
I am local. Ironically the station building/house was much larger than the one at Mitcham (seen old photos).Also the Morden Road bridge nearby was lowered over old the Wimbledon to Merton Abbey freightline (which closed around 1975) sometime in 1990s i think; a walkway is now at far end of the park. Enjoyed video.
I used to work just over the road from this and it's still my closest tram stop. Plus it's just a few metres away from a rather good Sri Lankan restaurant I go to semi-regularly.
The suffix "Halt" was eliminated from all Southern Region stations in 1969. Sandhurst Halt on the Reading to Guildford line became simply Sandhurst. However, station announcers would still use the old name into the mid 1970s: "Next train at this platform calling at Crowthorne, Sandhurst Halt, Blackwater, Farnborough North..."
I always thought that a Halt was named as such because the Driver had to halt the locomotive to exchange the Token giving them permiossion to use that section of line.
Yes, used the station many times when it was a railway. Kodak's London laboratories and Kodachrome processing, the only lab in the UK, we're only a few minutes walk away.
pedant note "grouping of most of britains main railways" ( Col Stephens lines even at full guage seemed to get missed, the met and underground group were excluded ( any tubes not part of underground group in 1923? ) Glasgow Subway , most tramways under a Light Railway order construction (cannot recall what happened to the Dearne District Light Railway) , lines owned by most "private owners" likewise didnt get on the list/s
Ah, I misread your comment for a moment as meaning that there was a branch of the SIR reaching the current location of Wallington Library. Which there almost was. But it stopped about a mile short, roughly at the southern end of Sutton Business Centre.
@@kgbgb3663 I actually thought so, at the time (i.e. the track was still sitting where it once had been). I also remember seeing something about Stephenson's Rocket on the sign next to it and thought the railway was steam powered. Either it wasn't explained very well or I didn't read the sign properly. I was a child at the time, though!
A shame you didn't have archive pictures of the attractive buildings at both Morden Rd and especially Beddington Lane...as a teen in the late 70s I found this line an attractive,almost rural,backwater in suburban S London...
I once walked between Morden and Morden Road (eschewing South Wimbledon for petty reasons only known to my railway track atlas) and I can safely say it's one of the most boring things I've ever done. It just goes to show that there is, indeed, Morden meets the eye in most things.
Bus services via Morden Road had a quite bewildering history with near circular services as the area would have at times direct services to Sutton (Via Worcester Park and Raynes Park), to St Helier via Rose Hill, sometimes to Sutton - but via the indirect Woodstock . Sutton Common Road, Epsom , and of course Morden itself - mainly from Wimbledon , but not really from anywhere east of Colliers Wood (except for the more recent night services to Trafalgar Square via Elephant and Castle )
Long Buckby station (also Northamptonshire county) is now at the edge of the expanded village, but was only on the hill "next to near the village" until then..heckuva hike from the village to the train.
A station only 30 minutes walk from the town it was named after? That sounds like bliss compared to "London" Southend airport, a full 85 minutes train journey from Trafalgar square!
There was an ad,that the Baltimore Transit[Maryland-USA],ran during 1926,that I think has relevance! When dealing with high rise elevator buildings,and rush hours,the streetcars/trams,were horizontal elevators,with the same ability to absorb loads!( The Baltimore Streetcar Museum,has a booklet,of the ads,very useful) Anyway,I surprised that people can't see the obvious,but there is nonstop automobile advertising,so public transport has been pushed to the back of the bus[pardon the pun]!' Anyway,Jago,another side line,from Morden,to the ends of London! Thank you 😇 😊!
What are those cones that can be seen from 8:47 onwards? It looks like some sort of cattle grid. Although I'm not entirely certain how much cattle roams around Croydon...
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4:42. I'm a bit confused about how right-of-centre outlets not carrying left-of-centre critique of something said by someone right-of-centre is a "blind spot". Do they accuse the left of having a "blind spot" when the situation is the reverse?
I think we can see just how "objective" _Ground News_ really is.
It's interesting that my comment arguing that _Ground News_ is far from objective (with evidence taken from your clip of it) gets hidden.
@@kgbgb3663 It's certainly very American
Gotta be honest, the news is (are?) among the last things I want to risk further exposure to nowadays, but I appreciate their support for the channel, all the same.
@@kgbgb3663 A lot of news is syndicated , via PA or similar and "Reach" / Trinity Mirror own a lot of local and nationals. Sometimes I read / watch Aj Jazeera/ Russia Today just to see their take on things even If I dont agree with them. the Jellygraph used to be better than the times for objective reporting but its scope and more opinion over recent years has ruined it for me
3:00 reminds me of my favourite Victorian joke.
"I say, stationmaster, would it not have been better to put the station in the village where the people are?"
"No, sir, the company thought it best to put it here, where the trains are."
Amazing, where’s this from?
@@nickchambers3935 France? Describe very well our high speed lines network. With station colloquially named after what is grown in the field nearby....
It goes along with the town dignitaries that said those noisy, smelly engines are not spoiling our town.
11:52 "I don't have any footage of Beddington Lane..." LMAO!
We're lucky he wasn't talking about Cockfosters :p
This channel is required watching if you live in London, it manages to be informative and entertaining.
It's the bed from Bedknobs and Broomsticks.
I snorted with laughter at that.
When I was young I was often taken on the train between Wimbledon and Croydon with my mum and brother. In those days Croydon was a place to go. We had a large old pram which could only be put in the front carriage as that had the space reserved for large goods. Anyway we'd done this journey many times and one day the driver of the train from Wimbledon asked if I wanted to drive the train. This was the 80s and so I sat on the lap of (probably) the guard whilst the driver sat in the other seat and I drove the train to Morden Road. I remember pressing buttons and pushing handles. I was about 3 or 4 at the tine.
I just love the fact that in this world of “normal jobs” there are ppl like you who do this sort of stuff and give us the first class factual entertainment programming that TV has largely lost!👏👏👏
“for once I don’t see the railways pulling a fast one”😩🤣
Excellent video, Jago. The Surrey iron railway fascinates me especially as its extension finished in merstham just down the road from me.
“It only took 140 years.” That’s pretty speedy, people appreciate it more if you make them wait for it. JH makes great videos, thank you.
The LSBCR South London Line from Victoria to London Bridge, when converted from overhead catenary to third rail by Southern Railway, converted the now surplus driving-cab power cars and classified them as 2SL (2-car South London) sets. They were definitely driving cab coaches, as they retained their flat roofs over the driving cabs where the pantographs had originally been (see brief glimpse of these trains on the video at 09:12). Around 1950, I used to get the train from Merton Park to Morden Halt Station to see my uncle who worked for Triang Toys in the industrial estate near the latter station and I knew the trains intimately. Their headcode was 2. They were scrapped around 1953.
The out of station interchange is non existent! It's a good 15 minute walk
Love the travelling bed.
That was Edd China, at the helm of the travelling bed
@@tomasjones3755 I had to watch it again to check if it was him, and then noticed it's an IKEA bedframe! I got the same bedframe!
Boris Johnson @ 11:57?! 😏
I've said it before and I'll say it again: One does not simply walk into Morden.
I'd make sure you do use the train between Epping and Gondor
literally 😅
I like to take scenic routes to reduce my exposure to motorists
I feel the modern equivalent of Road is Parkway!
For anyone wondering, I believe the station pictured at 9:28 is Wandsworth Road
Ok, i'm a train enthusiast from Austria. But can anyone tell my why I'm now so interested in London public transport? Well must be Jago....
French here, and since the UK is the birthplace of railways and London the birthplace of subways, there is a massive amount of historical fact that will interest any train nerd of the world behind many station and bits of railway of the UK. This example is perfect, this trackbed and station location started its life as the first horse drawn public tram line...
(and Jago is a fantastic narrator and railway historian).
English here - because we were the first, we are also the worst, which means that every other country in the world can learn from our mistakes, which from the Victorian times to HS2 keep happening !
Australian here. UK is THE home of railways.
Im from australia
Maybe it's the fascination for a working public transport we austrians who dont live in vienna fail to fathom🥲
It got a mention but there was a surprising amount of industry very near to the station including well known Tri-ang toys, Connolly leather, William Morris fabrics and other factories on the Merton Industrial Estate.
Love that you included Edd China's bed car! Brilliant Jx
I certainly remember the 2EPB that ran the shuttle in its last days waiting at platform 10 at Wimbledon to return to Croydon. Thankfully there were only 2 other trains an hour that used it as a through line. Now it is Tram only with all Thameslink trains using platform 9, still two an hour in each direction.
I only now understand the Surrey Iron Railway was originally using horses, not locomotives, for traction!
That made a few things click in place. Thanks Jago!
There is, or used to be, some preserved iron rail from the Surrey Iron Railway in Purley Recreation Ground, Brighton Road, Purley. There were also a few stretches of trackbed visible between Croydon and Merstham…but I’m guessing with the construction of the M23 and all the housing that’s occurred since I was a lad back in the early 1950’s, it’s probably disappeared :-)
@@tonyaustin4472- there’s a bridge easily visible by the Starbucks in Hooley as well as a couple of surviving buildings…
“i don’t have footage of Beddington Lane, so here’s a bed”
that’s an acceptable substitute, the snark and humility is accepted
Cheerio. That video was great. I travelled from Merton Park to Wimbledon every morning in the early 1970s on the old rattlerly train. Lovely oldmanual signal box at Merton Park road crossing. Baton handover. Had to walk over a metal footbridge half way down the track. Now I travel on the tram almost daily to and from Wimbledon, Waddon Marsh and Croydon from Mitcham. Fantastic service. Clean and efficient. Hope the powers that be never, ever nationalise the railways.
The incredible irony of your last sentence, just after praising the fantastic service on Tramlink... which is owned by TfL.
Tramlink, continuing to be the shot in the arm to neglected commuter lines that were victims of attempted (or successful) closure by stealth. Very much like the Overground in that sense. That line and this station are, in many ways, better than it's ever been.
Great video!
Sunday morning, cup of coffee, cat purring and a Jago Hazzard video. 👍👍👍
As some who doesn't travel, I often go on tram rides via the tram drivers pov videos on youtube. I spend much time in Holland, Germany and Poland. I love the trams and wish we could have them instead of buses but our roads aren't wide enough in a lot of places.
Aww.. have you tried the ones on the Swiss railways? I've often lost an hour cruising through the mountains from the comfort of my armchair 😊
it's not just the provinces of Holland that have cities with trams, the province of Utrecht in The Netherlands does too. Trams can go through narrow streets, providing there's a no-stopping restriction for other vehicles.
Edd China on his street legal double bed.
Had a go on it at Bill McAlpine's open day earlier this year.
It was excellent.
Nearly as excellent as your video, Jago.
Many thanks.
I have little interest in either London or the details of various forms of public transport, but your videos are so well-made and entertaining, I watch them all. Thanks.
And thank you!
You've got to admire the cut to a motorised bedstead on the mention of Beddington Lane. Now that's creative editing at its finest!
Yes I did see that also its Edd China from Wheeler dealers who was the driver
Well done JH - superb story and information - Morden rocks! Well it politely shakes 😂😂
The building 13:15 into the video looks like something that could have been in a 70s or 80s "future" movie. Not too scary, but still had that 'vibe. 1975's Rollerball maybe?
I remember that line from 1986. I had a job on the Purley Way and the nearest stop was Waddon Marsh. Always a bit “in the middle of nowhere”, it was terrifying on a Winter evening.
Used this station fairly regularly around 1979 when I worked in Deer Park Road. It felt like a total backwater then more like a branch line deep in the country that avoided the Beeching axe.
Brilliant video thanks
It's also the nearest station to Sun Hill Police Station from The Bill - filmed round the corner in Deer Park Road, complete with fake exterior, police, court and hospital interiors and entire fake street with bus stop which once you've seen it you can't stop seeing it still being used in ads and other TV shows today... you can see it on the satellite image on Google maps - behind the Wimbledon Studios...
Numerous fun times. They shot an episode of London's Burning on the adjacent industrial estate where gas lines were used to produce the fire in an old warehouse. Unfortunately the fire spread to an adjoining warehouse completely gutting it destroying half a million pounds in stock. What was so amusing for the onlookers was the fire engines packing up and driving away.
When the real fire brigade arrived, they asked the police to close the road, only to discover that the police were a film unit from The Bill.
It started an enquiry and things turned quite nasty. Laws were passed preventing film units wearing emergency service uniforms, or driving any vehicles marked as emergency services on a public road unless the road was closed for the filming.
Prior to that The Bill shot quite a lot, where the general public produced the backdrop, so it made things very difficult.
One of their favourite locations was Morden Sainsburys loading yard and car park. Another location was the Colliers Wood youth center, along with numerous houses behind Morden road station in Merton Park, including ours.
@wilsjane this is such a brilliant read ☝️thanks so much!!!
A great video which I enjoyed Morden any other that I watched today
Used to be my nearest tram stop! Where you filmed was just the other side of the pub, and about a hundred yards away, from the house on Morden Road where I used to live.
I had to use this when I had a nursing placement in Mitcham. It was the best way of getting from the tram to the Northern Line at Morden, and it's a bit of a walk (although an out-of-station interchange I think)
Hiya Jago ive got on and off at Morden Road tram stop a few times when meeting up with my dad who worked at Thames Televison(Bill Set) down Deer park Road always a good stroll through the industrial estate.
Ive also know the Balham-Morden stretch on the Northern line going way back back to the early 1960's
Marc In Bletchley G6XEG
22:18 Hi Jago, shocked to see tram footage with track covered in a dusting of snow! We’ve had no snow here in Norfolk 😅
The guard also acted as a conductor.
Now that is a challenging job on a recently electrified railway.
Shocking...
Croydon Tramlink is still the best tram line in South London. And I do like trams a lot.
Nice to see Edd China make a guest appearance 😄
Thanks for another insight to London's transport, it brought back memories because as a youngster I lived in a flat within sight of the Morden tube station. Is this the same line that went through Mitcham, I seem to remember that was served by 2-Car DMU's. ....Drew
No, it used EMUs from the 1920s until conversion to trams in 1999
“The guard acted as a conductor”….. on an electric train? I’d be asking for more money for that one.
They still do….plenty of trains in East Anglia, you pay on the train, like you used to do on the buses when they had clippies :-)
@@tonyaustin4472read it again 😊
A great little video, telling a wonderful story of old railways.
I've been watching these videos for several weeks now, but "I don't have any footage of Beddington Lane, so here's a bed" just earned you a subscribe 😂
My go-to tram stop past few years, especially for the tube challenge. Handy for South Wim to Wimbledon or vice versa.
Enjoying the car at 14:18. I'm guessing the men in it are unaccustomed to being merely extras in a shot of the front of a relatively unremarkable underground station.
Thanks Jago, that bed-machine-car-thingy ! Couldn't find footage ! 😅😅😅
Love the bed😂😂
11:55 "... Places like Beddington Lane..." That's really cracked me up!
FYI: the Croydon, Merstham & Godstone Railway (CMGR), an extension to the Surrey Iron Railway (SIR), opened in 1803. There's a nice footpath including a bit of its route just outside the M25 near Redhill.
For the avoidance of doubt, the "Godstone" in the title of the railway was an aspiration rather then a fact. It never actually got beyond Merstham quarry. I'm surprised they didn't put Portsmouth in the title, as that was another aspiration!
See my note above :-) there used to be some preserved trackway with rail in Purley; no idea if it’s still there though
Have I mentioned the Stationmaster at Morden Road Halt ? He was killed in WW2 on a bomb strike somewhat leaving his two daughters effective orphans, mum went to school with one of them and knew her from the area until recently, I think she died about a year before covid (time goes so fast I cannot always remember - I will have to check 1939 register next time on free access days
My old stomping ground so found this most interesting
Hey Jago - It looks like quite a 'Morden' Tram Line!!! 😉 Also I like your Title "...Morden Meets the Eye"!!! Very Good @ 11:54 - I like your "Bed Footage" - very funny!!! 😄🙂🚂🚂🚂
Tramsformers, Morden meets the eye!
👀
The Surrey Iron Railway is one of those "I wish we made more of it" things in London
0:06 Good afternoon! 😌
Awesome video, and btw, heres a suggestion
Every train in the uk ranked based on their design and how useful they are, though if you find that will take too long then do a ranking for the london underground trains in terms of design, though it would have to be based on the look of the trains face since all of them kinda look the same with the red and white pattern. (Optional though.)
Keep up the good work!
Yay! The Surrey Iron Railway (SIR) got mentioned again😀
Just one small nitpick this time, I know the building at 02:18 is called "Station Court" but is there any evidence that it was part of a station?
From what I heard it was built as the house of a well-to-do merchant about the time SIR was being constructed. The arch led to the stables and a storage area at the rear. I assume the merchant saw a business opportunity in the SIR and wanted to be next to it.
When it was an ordinary rail line, next station towards West Croydon was Mitcham.
Jago never fails to please his fans!
“Good evening,” begins a video released at midday
Better than "Hi Guys" introducing a video punctuated by "so, yeah".
@ honestly I just never noticed because I usually _do_ watch in the evening lmao
It opened here at 4:30
It IS evening somewhere.
Good Noon. - Chesssimp.
I actually travelled on the raikleay. Signal boxes at every crossing. They exchaned tokens at each signal box
I'm right near beddington Lane. You should pop in for a cuppa and a jaw some time :-) When the weathers nice i like going to Morden Road then walking up to the big sainsburys at colliers wood then bop back to mitcham common. Nice little trip out
I used this station the other week, felt like a long walk from South Wimbledon tube, but maybe that's just me!
The travelling bed must be the best footage of a station ever!
All's well that ends well😅!
Can't actually remember the old GLC trams in South London as we had moved to the suburbs when they were withdrawn, Nan was always going on about being crammed in on the lower deck amongst 20 odd standing passengers, not ladylike to go upstairs for her, she called them boneshakers as rattled, bounced and rolled side to side. She loved the Trolley Buses that replaced them, as did I. Even in the 60's I was chopping the old tarred Cedarwood blocks that surrounded the tram tracks for noise reduction for firewood at Nan's house, supplied by London Coal Merchants. They were lethal for cars and bikes when wet. The Croydon network should have gone double deck but it uses too much of the old rail tracks, a lot of the roads used still have the same lampposts that carried the tram and trolleybus wires and the new tram wires.
In his book 'Roads and Rails of London', author Charles Klapper recalled that sitting in front of a fireplace where salvaged wood tramway blocks were burning would risk being hit by pieces of hot gravel being spat into the room! Was this your experience? Thanks.
@@edwardsadler7515 Split for kindling, although Mother did often ask for me to bring some home from Gran's when getting low on Anthracite for the Aga. Both Nan and Mum always had a spark guard in front of the fires.
Good to read your comment…my dad took me as a small child on one of the very last trams in Croydon and I can still remember that unique sensation and sound of it moving on the track…there can’t be many of us that remember trams in London :-)
As for trolleybuses, absolutely my favourite! Not just riding on them, my lord the acceleration! But going all over London on a Red Rover collecting bus numbers….still got my Ian Allen books lol
Love these, I will be doing a few more adventures south of London next year, to ride these.
I am local. Ironically the station building/house was much larger than the one at Mitcham (seen old photos).Also the Morden Road bridge nearby was lowered over old the Wimbledon to Merton Abbey freightline (which closed around 1975) sometime in 1990s i think; a walkway is now at far end of the park. Enjoyed video.
Thank you for this very decent story.
I used to work just over the road from this and it's still my closest tram stop. Plus it's just a few metres away from a rather good Sri Lankan restaurant I go to semi-regularly.
A familiar (to me) station misnomer is Wickham Market station, which is easily 2 miles from Wickham Market in a village called Campsea Ashe.
Until the 1970s the line also carried coal to Croydon B power station at Waddon Marsh.
I recall a milk train running on the line heading towards Wimbledon. this was in the days of the connection to sutton line at Mitcham Junction
The suffix "Halt" was eliminated from all Southern Region stations in 1969. Sandhurst Halt on the Reading to Guildford line became simply Sandhurst. However, station announcers would still use the old name into the mid 1970s: "Next train at this platform calling at Crowthorne, Sandhurst Halt, Blackwater, Farnborough North..."
I always thought that a Halt was named as such because the Driver had to halt the locomotive to exchange the Token giving them permiossion to use that section of line.
Optimistic interchange between South Wimbledon and Morden Road, or the other direction, especially if you have been to Ampere Way.
Yes, used the station many times when it was a railway. Kodak's London laboratories and Kodachrome processing, the only lab in the UK, we're only a few minutes walk away.
Well that was a bit Morden I was expecting. Always good when a video's like that 👍
pedant note "grouping of most of britains main railways" ( Col Stephens lines even at full guage seemed to get missed, the met and underground group were excluded ( any tubes not part of underground group in 1923? ) Glasgow Subway , most tramways under a Light Railway order construction (cannot recall what happened to the Dearne District Light Railway) , lines owned by most "private owners" likewise didnt get on the list/s
There used to be a short section of track from the Surrey Iron Railway in the grounds of Wallington Library.
Ah, I misread your comment for a moment as meaning that there was a branch of the SIR reaching the current location of Wallington Library. Which there almost was. But it stopped about a mile short, roughly at the southern end of Sutton Business Centre.
Just made the same comment! Used to love Wallington Library when I was a kid!
@@kgbgb3663 I actually thought so, at the time (i.e. the track was still sitting where it once had been). I also remember seeing something about Stephenson's Rocket on the sign next to it and thought the railway was steam powered. Either it wasn't explained very well or I didn't read the sign properly. I was a child at the time, though!
After this video, I can't help imagining dancing walls.
A shame you didn't have archive pictures of the attractive buildings at both Morden Rd and especially Beddington Lane...as a teen in the late 70s I found this line an attractive,almost rural,backwater in suburban S London...
South Wimbledon even has a 1935 Lagonda Tourer. 😁
With a Weymann body, too!
@@lawrencelewis2592 What a beauty! 😘
I see the customary "Security Crows" are active and well at Morden!
This is the only channel where I don't fast forward through the sponsorships.
The story of a Really Useful Station!
Nothing makes me feel so old as the fact that I left Croydon before the tram was re-introduced.
Nice to see a video about the Croydon Tramlink.
I once walked between Morden and Morden Road (eschewing South Wimbledon for petty reasons only known to my railway track atlas) and I can safely say it's one of the most boring things I've ever done. It just goes to show that there is, indeed, Morden meets the eye in most things.
I had to watch a part of this video twice because I doubted my sanity on my first viewing. It involved a flying bed!
More tram videos please
Can you please do a video on Upminster and its history as it, I believe had a good yard and the London Transport, District Line used to go to Southend
Bus services via Morden Road had a quite bewildering history with near circular services as the area would have at times direct services to Sutton (Via Worcester Park and Raynes Park), to St Helier via Rose Hill, sometimes to Sutton - but via the indirect Woodstock . Sutton Common Road, Epsom , and of course Morden itself - mainly from Wimbledon , but not really from anywhere east of Colliers Wood (except for the more recent night services to Trafalgar Square via Elephant and Castle )
Merry Christmas and Happy Prosperous 2025 New Year to you. Thank you for your very interesting detailed videos, with very in-depth knowledge
Jago, Raunds train station was nearly 2 miles away from Raunds. If you're friends with Jon Jefferson, he might be able to tell you about it.
Long Buckby station (also Northamptonshire county) is now at the edge of the expanded village, but was only on the hill "next to near the village" until then..heckuva hike from the village to the train.
A station only 30 minutes walk from the town it was named after? That sounds like bliss compared to "London" Southend airport, a full 85 minutes train journey from Trafalgar square!
There was an ad,that the Baltimore Transit[Maryland-USA],ran during 1926,that I think has relevance! When dealing with high rise elevator buildings,and rush hours,the streetcars/trams,were horizontal elevators,with the same ability to absorb loads!( The Baltimore Streetcar Museum,has a booklet,of the ads,very useful) Anyway,I surprised that people can't see the obvious,but there is nonstop automobile advertising,so public transport has been pushed to the back of the bus[pardon the pun]!' Anyway,Jago,another side line,from Morden,to the ends of London! Thank you 😇 😊!
Always love seeing Croydon Tramlink representation.
Morden a feeling
Boston had a hit with that
I think I'm dreaming.
The title is just too good hahaha
What are those cones that can be seen from 8:47 onwards? It looks like some sort of cattle grid.
Although I'm not entirely certain how much cattle roams around Croydon...
In theory, to stop those pesky trespassers, but some berk left the right hand gate open, so free access for all.