125 Years of the Waterloo and City Line
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- 8th August 2023 is a milestone for the quirkiest line on the Underground - the Waterloo and City!
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Nearly half an hour on a journey that takes four minutes. I like it.
I agree ☝️.
Nearly half an hour on a journey that takes only four minutes. I like 👍 it too!
Train nerd gonna train nerd.
Drain gotta Drain, nerd gotta nerd.
Well, this nearly half an hour certainly felt like four minutes, so it's fitting.
More Jago is always good.
"Bakerloo line" came from Baker Street to Waterloo line. So surely Waterloo to Bank should be "Wankerloo line"?
HA HA HA HA HA I LOVE IT😂!!
😂😂
I think this is a new record for total time without mentioning Yerkes
Sounds like a Yorkshire pudding
IMHO the tunnelling shield at Bank is one of the coolest things you can see in a station on the underground, it shows really well how small the tunnels are. You don't get many fogs that impressive these days 8:20
It’s nice to see all these anniversaries springing up along with a lovely chronicler in tow.
As an ex drain user I have fond memories of the daily subterranean adventure. The challenge of getting on as quickly as possible to secure a seat was always at the forefront of my mind.
When my dad got moved from The City to Canary Wharf, at first he complained that the Tube part of his commute had gotten a bit longer.
(Paddington to Waterloo to Bank became Paddington to ?? to Canary Wharf. I think he still changed at Waterloo even though he could do it at Baker Street?)
Soon after, however, he was mostly talking about how much nicer the Jubilee Line Extension was over the Waterloo and City line! Especially the experience at Canary Wharf station.
Of course, by the time he retired it had gotten a lot more crowded in the station as many more offices moved there. But for a time it was apparently a much more relaxed commute despite taking a bit longer.
@@kaitlyn__L Nowadays he could just take the Lizard Line.
Why? You were not sitting for long..
I remember the snaking queues at Waterloo and bank stations (and when I first started using it a lot of people still wore bolar hats and striped trousers)
My own Waterloo & City titbit: During the last week of operation of the 1940 stock I found myself alone on the line during off-peak. I noticed the carriages had distinctive air vents at each end forming the words ‘Southern Railway’. On closer inspection I saw that these vent covers were secured by just two or three screws and reflected that if only I had a screwdriver I could have helped myself to a souvenir! (I reasoned that they were going to be scrapped soon anyway).
I remember those Southern Railway air vent covers too. I travelled on the W&C a number of times during its BR and Network SouthEast days... usually just because of its uniqueness and interest.
At least some of them were removed and preserved; I knew somebody who had one.
On some cars the vent on the right hand side said 'Region' so I wonder if some had previously been removed, and replaced in BR Days?
I had a screwdriver….😊
@@nilo70 - Ooooooh get you! (I’ve now got screwdriver envy) 🤓
the thumbnail really made me jump to the conclusion of 125mph running in the tube 😂
Yeah, didn't you hear that the Bakerloo line is getting HSTs?
I often used the Drain on Saturday mornings when it ran a single-car service. The ride was akin to being on a fairground roller-coaster.
Yes , the Saturday morning opening was a regular feature of the line for many years. After the replacement of the 1940's stock in the 1990's, a full day Saturday service ran, but after Covid lockdowns in 2020, the Saturday service has since been withdrawn altogether.
When I was about eight years old, I was allowed to drive one of the trains out of the depot at Waterloo onto the platform, supervised of course. I have never forgotten that experience!
Years ago when I worked for BR, I was hidden away in the old lamp arch which adjoined onto the lift area for the W&C and sometimes we were marshalled in to help out with lifts and drops as couple times a year a tamper would be squeezed onto the lift and other utility wagons when renewing track and infrastructure. Curious place to work, my "boss" was colloquially known as "Catweazle" as he looked just like that with the frizzed out beard and hair, he used to talk to himself a lot and he was often pie eyed too whether on proper booze or the lamp oil we never knew, chap could knock a bottle of scotch back in one throw and not even burp or show any outward signs and off he would go muttering to himself whilst I did all the stuff like lamp work and trudging up to the platforms with my trolley laden with fresh lamps and next door stores would load me up with train sundries because I was a lowly knowlessman and they were senior to me. To be fair, we gave other BR staff hell, YTS trainees were excellent fun with my favourite wheeze of sending them up to watch incoming trains, measure buffer to buffer stop distance and if it wasn't 2 and half feet they were told to write a ticket out and give it to the driver... the grumpy Welsh Area Manager constantly had us on punishment duty, including hand sweeping with a normal yard broom the whole concourse he nailed on to me several times. We nearly caused a major signalman walkout when using the stores database we "issued" various signalboxes the staff with old 1950's "Weskit" uniforms that were still in storage, signalmen do not wear uniforms ever and so we issued them to London Bridge, Waterloo, Victoria, Clapham Junction, Borough Market, out went these hideous uniforms and my own father went berserk when he was issued his horrible smelly uniform. It was around then I was encouraged to transfer and moved to Norwood TOPs where I rained hell on unsuspecting folks from there like putting EPB's into service for an erroneous "long weight" and wrong colour yellow cab end corrections...
As a maths graduate "one point forty-seven" at the start made me wince
I failed GCSE maths on the first attempt and it made me wince as well.
See Jerome K. Jerome's " Three Men in a Boat" for a tale of how confused Waterloo's three LSWR stations were prior to rebuilding as one.
Missed opportunity to say: “I’m here at Waterloo and…OH NOT THIS AGAIN!” 😂
Where from? Belgium?
@@PopeLando the reference could be waterloo east on the southeastern line
No, not Belgium, but Liverpool... Waterloo Station on the Northern Line of MerseyRail...
@@trevordance5181he probably doesnt have footage for that unfortunately
@@trevordance5181 And as an alternative handily titled for Another Place 🙂
Another nicely-timed video- James Henry Greathead was born on this day in 1844!
wonder how they dug his grave ?
“I’m a poet and I’m fully aware of the fact” 😆🤣
Very interesting and more so as I used to work wit the team that maintained the Trav-o-later powered by AC Commutator Motors. We also used to help when the BBC did filming for e.g. Survivors "The Lights Of London". We also maintained the pumps keeping the tunnels dry and the Armstrong Lift including re chaining it and conversion to AC water pump powered when the "London Hydraulic" water stopped. The 1940 stock stopped single car running when one had a brake failure due to some pins being left out after maintenance. The line was also closed twice for other issues for several months, 1. Flooding when a 36" water main burst at "The Cut" turning into a real "Drain". 2. Beetles doing damage to the jarrah railway sleepers.
I think the Victoria Line should be considered entirely underground, regardless of having an Overground depot at Northumberland Park.
I agree. Every part of the Victoria line to which the public has access is underground and the status of the rest is surely irrelevant
@@nicfripp4159well yes, technically true and I thought that too, but it does mean the trains themselves sometimes go outside, something you don't see at all on the W&C (they have to be winched in and out). I suppose that's what Jago was getting at.
@@stephenholt4670that’s still wrong: it’s technically“below ground” but it still passes an open space before entering the depot…it is never entirely underground except when in swrvice
just south of Waterloo the line actually “gets some air” as the tracks to the depot are exposed. it doesn’t go “aboveground” but it’s not entirely buried underground as is thought
I loved those 1940s trains especially the art deco lights, I remember riding on them back in the 1970s with my dad, , Even though the trains and stations were getting a bit tired and shabby by then i still have great memories of them.
Fascinating video. You mentioned the power station at Waterloo, to get the coal wagons to the power station a 10ft turntable was installed and there is still one there in the same location (now used for moving bogies and wheelsets out for maintenance), the current one being the third, having been installed in 2021.
It may have been a longer video than usual, but very well explained and easier to understand since it's such a short line. Happy Birthday come Tuesay.
Shame it's not been extended to Liverpool Street. Just saying.
I first went on it in 1989. Not knowing how it worked at Waterloo I went on to the platform and was surprised how quiet it was. I got on the train which then trundled off into the sidings. I was a bit anxious until the train reversed into the departure platform. I've always been a track basher so this was an unexpected bonus!
I've been commuting on this line for 22 years. I'm watching this video for a reason to hate it less :)
I've always been a bit odd... I used the Drain in the 1970s, and I absolutely loved it. I loved the rattley blue trains and the queueing system to get on, and the travelator was a wonderful daily experience. I'm so glad you were able to include the old blue trains in your film. I may have been the only person working in the City at that time who actually relished the commute!
Thank you for bringing back so many wonderful memories.
I like this longer format, but I understand why you don't do more of them.
I live on the other side of the Pond, so it's unlikely I will take the W&C anytime soon, but I love hearing about all these little quirks and oddities that result from having a transit system with over a century of history
As a fellow Yank, I find the London Underground to be fascinating. I use it whenever I have the pleasure of being in the UK. While not as long a history as London's on our side of the Pond the NYC system also has an interesting and quirky history all its own dating back 119 years.
I've travelled on the underground when on holiday, but didn't understand the history at the time.
Thanks Jago for the wonderful broadcasts that you've been doing.
A very comprehensive story covering just about everything relating to the Drain. Thanks Jago.
What a very interesting video, Jago. I was fully engaged throughout. Many thanks for making and posting this episode.
Happy 125th anniversary Waterloo & City! 🚇🩵
There is a memorable and not particularly exaggerated description of the old Waterloo station in a famous comic novel.
"We got to Waterloo at eleven, and asked where the eleven-five started from. Of course nobody knew; nobody at Waterloo ever does know where a train is going to start from, or where a train when it does start is going to, or anything about it. The porter who took our things thought it would go from number two platform, while another porter, with whom he discussed the question, had heard a rumour that it would go from number one. The station-master, on the other hand, was convinced it would start from the local.
To put an end to the matter, we went upstairs, and asked the traffic superintendent, and he told us that he had just met a man, who said he had seen it at number three platform. We went to number three platform, but the authorities there said that they rather thought that train was the Southampton express, or else the Windsor loop. But they were sure it wasn't the Kingston train, though why they were sure it wasn't they couldn't say.
Then our porter said he thought that must be it on the high-level platform; said he thought he knew the train. So we went to the high- level platform, and saw the engine-driver, and asked him if he was going to Kingston. He said he couldn't say for certain of course, but that he rather thought he was. Anyhow, if he wasn't the 11.5 for Kingston, he said he was pretty confident he was the 9.32 for Virginia Water, or the 10 a.m. express for the Isle of Wight, or somewhere in that direction, and we should all know when we got there. We slipped half-a-crown into his hand, and begged him to be the 11.5 for Kingston.
"Nobody will ever know, on this line," we said, "what you are, or where you're going. You know the way, you slip off quietly and go to Kingston."
"Well, I don't know, gents," replied the noble fellow, "but I suppose some train's got to go to Kingston; and I'll do it. Gimme the half- crown."
Thus we got to Kingston by the London and South-Western Railway." - Jerome K Jerome, Three Men in a Boat (Not forgetting the Dog).
Jago was confined to bed a few weeks ago ( the vids were pre-recorded and time to upload ), he had his depot down below attended to and his canteen moved.
WOW a LONG Jago! LOVE it!! :) made my morning!
In the BR Days, upto the introduction of the preasant stock and the major rebuilding work the line was controlled by a Signal box, on the platform of the Bank bound platform at Waterloo, just by the end, where the the depot is. Although colour light signals the box still had a lever frame, This controlled the whole line in the off peak. During rush hour there was a very small signalling panel at Bank that could control Bank station, It was located in a tiny space in the building between the two platforms at the Waterloo end of Bank station, accessed from the left hand platform as you faced Waterloo. A unique feature in BR Days was on the tunnel walls rows of three blue lights to indicate the 20 mph speed restrictions on the tight curves.
Hello Jago, thank you for all your work to bring us this fascinating tale from “The Drain.”
Interestingly the Waterloo & City also had a single car with a cab at each end for off-peak service, as did the District line shuttle for the short line between Acton Town to South Acton.
Please keep up the good work. Best wishes from Oxfordshire.
Well done Jago. You should consider doing more long-form work like this. You're very good at it!
I have fond memories of the Drain and riding the old 1940's stock during the off-peak when there was no one much around. It was like a strange mix of being in a working museum from the 2nd WW, and being on my own personal ghost train. Those trains looked awful when they got the NSE livery put on them. It totally ruined the ambiance of the whole experience.
Looking forward to your next offering soon. Keep up the good work. 👍
Sunday videos with the Jago......
And its a half hour one. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
I share my birthday with the W&C but happily not quite so many of them.
Loving the Network Southeast logos still in place on the platform edge. (NSE ceased to exist on 1st April 1994).
They were positioned to line up with the train doors when they were installed, but for the old trains which were built in the 30's, which were replaced by the "Central Line clones" in 1994.
I now have a medley of ABBA songs in my head - couldn't escape if I wanted to, which I don't. It's always ABBA o'clock somewhere in the recesses of my brain and it takes very little to bring it to the fore. Skål!
No way was this documentary about a two station line thirty minutes long, that went so quick! Nice work btw, very informative 👌🏻
Great video, Jago - lots of information there! I’ve only been on it once when me and a work colleague decided to go on it during a lunch break when we worked at Baker Street! 😀
'A strain on the drain' classic Jago 😂
Save the strain and take the train through the drain.
You might not want to do it again.
A satisfying ½-hour discourse on 'The Drain'. Since it is at least 3 times that of your normal offerings, you should now take a two video break. Others have opined that longer is a good idea, however my thoughts on that are that that format should be reserved for specials. For example '125 Years of the Waterloo and City Line'. 😇
As always an enjoyable video and an interesting one. NY has a version of this though for a different reason its 42nd Street Shuttle. Its history dates back 1904, though not as a shuttle. When the Interbrough Rapid Transit Co's (IRT) first line was built as NYC's first subway (our word for our Underground vs a passage way under the street) it originally made a hard left at Grand Central followed by a hard right at Times Sq and 42nd Street. When the IRT extended the lines north on the East side of Manhattan and South on the West the shuttle was born. For many years it was possible to still run the old route though it never was done, but modern improvements now make that impossible.
Can't be the only one expecting you to start the video in Waterloo, Belgium
Thanks
And thank you also!
Great little video about a great little tube line , always been an oddity but well loved by all the Londoners that use it.
Superb an comprehensive, Jago. You have truly excelled yourself this time. thank you.
Did the very odd trip on it in the late 70s/early 80s.
It seemed to 'smell' differently to the usual underground trains as well as looking different !
Thankyou Jago. I have lived in in all parts of London (south of the river, north of the river & on the Isle of Dogs) & yet have never used this railway. Never had to. It seems that this railway was only intended for the Surrey stockbrokers commute & yet still operates.🙃
Used to live in the south west while having family in East Anglia. Waterloo and city was very useful back then as it allowed a quick journey to bank followed by a short trip to Liverpool street to east Anglia.
But as you say more useful for commuters or those transiting London rather than Londoners
@@wilfredarasaratnam Hi. Yes for me to get to Waterloo it would be a longer journey than necessary, there always being a quicker route. It seems that the original concept, 125 years later, South West still has there own private line into the city, as long as you don`t mind walking through a lot of tunnels lol🙂
@@iank-dz6gg Now the Walbrook exit is in place it really is a quick nip up the new escalators or lift to get you to the surface and feet away from Canon Street or the Mansion House.
@@highpath4776 And very nice it is too. But unless you are traveling from/to Waterloo to/from the square mile there are so many quicker ways to go- including walking. Although walking across London Bridge in the wind & rain is not much fun - hoorah for the Northern Line 🙂
If it's of interest, I believe the South Western Circle P4 modelling group has a 4mm finescale model of the station that would have been at London Bridge. I was lucky to see it a decade or so ago when a friend's dad was part of the group. If its still around and they would be happy to allow it, it would make for a fantastic video. I remember the excitement of realistically interlocked signaling and lever frames and train operation! I was an exciting teenager 😅
What a wonderful history this is, thank you for this new video with so much information in it. Watching this and other stories from you, I every time wonder: where in Britain is the producer who makes the 160 years long history of London's public transport subject for a few comedy series? I mean, all the ingredients are there on your doorstep to make it hilarious: characters, drama, humor, fierce competition, failures, successes.
A mammoth effort, well done.
I remember travelling as a kid, the trains where a little spooky with the small windows.
The travellator was a novelty, now common in shopping malls.
Twenty minutes per mile!
A truly pedestrian video.
I loved the Class 487 cars. When the line was closed prior to the introduction of the Class 482 units I was given a set of the aluminium ventilator covers 'Southern Railway' & 'Southern Region' I suspect that they were the last vehicles carrying Southern Railway insignia in BR service.
Last Tuesday I was part of an LCGB party visiting Acton Depot and it was nice to see the surviving Waterloo & City car no 61
looking very smart indeed.
As for the excellent Oakwood Press book by John Gilham.
It has to be the longest possible book on shortest line!
John was a very good friend of mine and over many years I learnt a great deal from him.
Thank you for such an informative video.
It's good that a station was never added at Blackfriars and the line was never extended. The Waterloo & City line does one thing very well: get people on, give them the confidence that even if they cram in they'll get off at the other end, and take them four minutes away. A sideways lift really.
Any additions potentially compromise that capacity as people won't cram in if they don't think they'll be able to get out again, and make the line less able to do its basic job - separating the masses of Surrey commuters who work in the City from the rest of London (to the benefit of both?).
Be a master of one, rather than a jack of all trades!
A pleasant in depth Sunday excursion. I had no idea it had ever been three rail.
The colour photos of the old 1940 stock were nice to see.
In the small thumbnail the digits on the car saying 201 look like a yellow dash in the title so it says 1-25. Neat trick.
😁This is the sage of the Drain...
I've used it a bit in the past. I often thought it would've been a whole lot more useful if they'd gone all the way to Liverpool Street. So 3 stops. Liverpool Street, Bank , Waterloo , just keeping it's current shuttle service. But as you say, the Central Line tunnels could get in the way !
With it going to Liverpool Street, it could have taken some passengers off what I found to be one of the most congested bits of LUL. The Central (should I say "Sardintral" ? ) line from Liverpool Street to Bank .
Loved this long deep dive into a line that’s short and shallow.
Love this, always nice to see a new Jago video
I like this length better.
Excellent film. will watch again.
Happy 125th Birthday Waterloo & City Line. Considering you are the shortest tube line on the London Underground and only has 2 terminus stations-Bank and Waterloo.
I have been on the Waterloo & City Line lots of times and it does get very busy all the time. Especially when you get rush hour in the mornings and evenings.
Jago: you are the Waterloo to my Bank.
I rode it when I visited, simply just to ride it. Why not?
"I rode it because it was there."
And Jago, I think we're all cool with this really long video (long for you).
I've never used the Drain much, but have happy memories of the previous 1940s trains. While of the same vintage, they're surprisingly different to the Underground stock of the same time.
Great video!
A half hour Jago Hazzard video that was entertaining and informative from beginning to end. Thank you.
A truly comprehensive, if slightly breathless, trundle through the Drain. I admire your ability to do the research let alone find time to make the video.
Well done!
Who remembers when Matt Nelson ran a marathon between the Waterloo and City stations?
I've walked through that tunnel shield a few times, but it never occured to me what it actually was... 🤣 Happy birthday to the drain!
the day that instead of me watching in UK, I watched it in hong kong
I remember seeing the 1991 Central Line stock during their development at Acton Town. They had a few test trains their !
I was an apprentice Electrician (for the buildings , not the trains !) on London Underground between 1984 and 1988, and spent quite a bit of time at the Acton Town Apprentice training centre !
I travelled on it several times in the 1960s when it was "Owned" by BR and was running some unpainted stock which looked like a cross between the pre-war stock and the Victoria line kit. If memory serves, this stock also had a combination of reduced sized carriage windows and some peculiar high-level slit windows/vents. . . A bit claustrophobic.
I remember we well and truly upset the ticket collector at the Bank end by repeatedly using the line on the same day and presenting our LT Day Rover tickets on exit.
Dang. That was a ton of production work for you. Nicely done.
A most enjoyable & informative video, ffanc iw Mr Hazzard.
Most impressive of all though is that you managed to make it to the correct station first time...
I used to frequently travel in the evenings from Waterloo to Liverpool Street and the W&C line was the quickest way. I walked from Bank as ,with the long corridor and the overcrowded Central Line, it was much more pleasant!
wonderful,i spent many years working in s.e.1,indeed at 9.15 mins turn the camera round and i used to work in that building,s.e.p.o. post office now the london fire head quarters,
'resolved amicably between the LSWR directors and themselves'
best line in the whole video
Good lord having an interchange at Blackfriars nowdays would be useful, expecially post pandemic...
Really would have been interesting to see it linked to the DLR aswell!
Congrats waterloo and city line!
I liked the trains from the 80’s - they had a strange charm and yes the slightly run down feel was comforting - while the seats were like those in a posh club - I really enjoyed the experience even if it could be a bit of a crush.
A really interesting video. Thank you
125 years old and still just a wittle baby!
I really enjoyed that, thank you.
The W&C is my fave route to the city. Go to Waterloo then let the Drain take the strain.
As always, thanks for another really informative video mate. Very educational videos! As a London Underground enthusiast and regular user, (I used to live in London and am now living just outside of London, still using the Underground frequently) these videos show the history of LU. This history just helps us to appreciate, even more, the transport system many of us use so regularly to this day! Happy 125th to the W&C!
_Logically,_ Jago, _logically,_ “one point forty-seven” is five and seven tenths, since that little -ty means you should multiply by ten.
Now, with anyone else on the Internet I would have let this slide, but I have come to expect a higher level of pedantry from _you,_ sir!
The little line that could, 🎉🥰🎉Happy Birthday🎉🥰🎉
I’ve never actually heard any average Londoner call it ‘the drain’. It’s like one of those things that only tube nerds ever refer to.
my aunties husband in Clapton called it The Drain. He was a bus driver and later a messenger in the city taking insurance contracts around
The Taff Vale Railway does have one link with the first deep tube lines of London that might explain why they had a director on the board of the W&C Railway: the Taff Vale Railway's main line from Merthyr Tydfil was approved by an Act of Parliament in 1896, but the Act included a number of smaller projects as well as the main railway as part of the company's wholesale redevelopment of South Wales' rail system. One of those projects was the Ely Subway, a short underwater tunnel across the mouth of Cardiff Bay, connecting Penarth Docks (owned by the TVR and a major terminus for their freight trains) with Grangetown for commuting dockworkers, and replacing a chain ferry which had an awkward tendency to sink during storms. It was tunneled using... a Greathead tunneling shield, of exactly the same design used for the London deep tube lines. As far as I'm aware it was the first tunnel in the UK, outside of London, to be tunneled using Greathead's shield - though don't quote me on that, I'm not a historian, just an armchair nerd - and I wonder if the TVR's presence on the W&CR board was part of some deal to get access to Greathead's fancy new technology.
I'd say it was worth a visit to Penarth to film for a video, but alas, the tunnel's entrances were buried in the 1980s - though it is supposedly still down there, under the water.
So fascinating and you put so much information into each video and love your narrative and how you describe things. I find all your uploads so interesting.
I will have lived in London for 50 years come November and I have not yet used the Waterloo & City Line. This must change!
Great research
Often wondered why Victoria was not chosen as the first London terminus for EuroStar as already had the Customs and Immigration facilities from the old Night Ferry to Paris and London end of the Orient Express days but only two platforms, 1 and 2, that were closed off from the rest. The rest had already been realigned and two new ones, an island one, for the Gatwick Express and a mezzanine floor built. Disjointed planning as usual along with the accompanying weekend travel chaos.
Victoria was built as two stations. The LB&SCR "Brighton" side had long platforms (but still not long enough for a Eurostar), but the platforms on the South Eastern side are short (some barely long enough for an 8 car train). Extending these to take Eurostars would have involved the destruction of a lot of high value property, the requirement to find an alternative terminus for the South Eastern, and much more space for passenger handling, customs and immigration. Building at Waterloo was cheaper for the same reason it was cheaper to build a station there in the first place - it is on the "wrong" side of the river so property was cheaper, and it also had the advantage of being partially built on the goods yard already owned by BR, plus the fact that the Eurostars could be slotted into the gaps in the Windsor Line services on the approach to the station.
A note about the 1948 accident: A BR Photographer who photographed the aftermath was asked by his employers to destroy the negative as to avoid embarresment for the newly nationalised railways. The Negative was not disposed of and is now but a Google search away.
I rather enjoyed this longer, more in depth video. Should there be more such in future I would very much approve.
Does anyone remember the 1960s BBC drama Adam Adamant ? One episode was about trains disappearing on the W&C. In one of the scenes a train load of skeletons arrived at the station (I forget which one).
I would love to see that episode.
@@eattherich9215 It starred Gerald Harper.
A short experimental atmospheric railway was constructed at Crystal Palace in the late 19th century, and there's an urban (well, suburban) legend that there's a carriage full of skeletons still down there.
@@caw25sha Do you think that when they were digging the foundations for the BBC transmitter at Crystal Palace that's where they got the skeletons from for that episode of Amam Adamant........
Only me then !!