SYNTH VS SYNTH -- Sequential OB6 or Prophet 6?
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TLDR: They're not the same, but they are lol
The OB6 to me is a freakin freight train of sound, i's power is WAY more than you can imagine. If you haven't heard one in person you're missing out. There's something special in there, but the Prophet 6 has it's place, and obviously to me a VERY special place. Anyways...watch and FIND OUT.
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I use my OB6 more than my Moog One. (just a comment on 2 modern analog giants) The filter is insane! It is my “go to” synthesiser. 👊🏼
I own both and the OB has the best filter I’ve ever heard, is it worth almost 3k??.. Yes! It’s that good. Great Video Noir, always spot on.
Nah
That picture of those 4 creators is awesome. We owe so much to them!
Great video !
I own an OB6. I would like to say the keys themselves are very good too. My main complaint is the 4 octaves ... I usually miss an extra octave.
Today, it is my go-to synth and it remains one of the most pleasing keyboards to play with.
I am very glad that Dave and Tom made this wonderful collaboration.
what do you think of the obx?
I think it is probably a great synth but I never had the chance to test one.
A = P6
B = Ob6
You can tell from the buzzier filter but also the sub oscillators. P6 is sine wave while the Ob is square
and the OB6 dosnt have the clicky snap of the amp env that the P6 does - and that shows in that clip.
@@paulmapp8306 then I would say the OB6 sounds darker, if B is the ob6. None of both sounded thin to me..
@@tutorial4779 neither are thin of course (I have both lol) but you can tell thje distinctive differences in that vid. The OB6 si brighter and fizzier, the P is darker and smoother BUT thats a generalised comment. The P6 can sound bright (but not fizzy) and the OB can be dark (but not so smooth).
Oh ! So, it wasn't the Virus 2 Darkstar ?
P6 sub oscillator is a triangle -- not a sine. :)
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Or the Will Smith slap 👀
Zzounds is responsible for like 20k+ of gear in my room
Big checks and bad credit ftw lol
oh no
Zzounds has been nothing short of incredible
I have neither but own the Xpander and I'd say the description about being a show stealer is spot on for the Xpander as well. It doesn't fit but sound amazing. Was thinking about replacing it with a prpphet
Gosh, that Oberheim, tho. I feel like we haven't talked about the Take 5 vs Prophet 5 idea as much as these two being pitted against one another, but I'm also curious about the value proposition right now. That said, the OB6 seems like the flagship big beautiful baby of the gang, more an instrument to multi-track for your all electronics project than the Prophet, which will let you fill space with a live band. Can't argue with that beautiful filter, tho.
Based on your frequency and resonance comparisons, the strings/pad sounds on the Prophet 6 has fizzy harmonics. It sounds like skimming off of the treble end of the sawtooth oscillators and using it as a lead sound, or that the fizzy harmonics can definitely be used for interesting soundscapes, such as industrial or scifi soundtracks. The Prophet 6 patch you demonstrated can even be more interesting if you use white noise with it. The OB-6 has a pronounced deep end and the filter response is very mellow. Perhaps it's based more on sine waves because I didn't hear any sharp harmonics like the Prophet 6. It's more ambient. But the sounds on both synths depend on the patch you select and edit. These two are great instruments and the preferences are up to the individual. I like the Oberheim slightly more, but wouldn't mind having both.
the reason why i like the ob6 way more than the prophet, is because the ob6 sounds likea spaceship and the p6 sounds like a airplane... the ob6 is perfect for my dub techno tracks 😊
Blind test: Synth A 9:26 and Synth B 9:42. A's filter sounds like it's buzzier, so maybe the Prophet, while B is likely the Oberheim.
that preset 007 on the ob-6 is such a staple lol I own both, I was initially intending to keep only one but could not manage. P6 gets quite a lot of hate overall I the synth community and OB-6 is highly praised. I think they serve different purposes, the OB-6 is too recognisable and full of squelchy character when played on it's own, whilst the P6 seems much smoother and creamier that fits well in every track which makes it a winner imho so I agree with your final conclusion! thanks for this video, it's THE hot question in the synth community.
not sure whos hating on the P6!? :0
I love my OB-6, and I also love, generally speaking, the Prophet sound. But I have a Rev2 which, using VCM, *can* sound pretty much like a Prophet, albeit not quite like a P5/P6/10. Additionally I use Repro-5 in case a P5 sound is absolutely required. So I think I don‘t need the P6.
If the OB-6 had an optional 4-pole LPF like the Xa, it would be the perfect synth.
Excellent video my man!! I think that the p6s interest has dwarfed because of the prophet 5 rev 4 (which I just ordered and can’t wait to use!). I think that the ob-6 is super popular and desired because of the lack of modern Oberheim on the market. I personally like both of these synths but the one thing on the ob-6 that I find lacking is the fact that you don’t have a 4 pole filter option. Don’t get me wrong the sem state variable filter that the ob-6 is based off of is a classic piece of audio engineering but it it’s not a Swiss Army knife like the p6 filter at all. Too many high frequencies pass through which makes it hard to make basses and plucks.
Sequential had the name obx registered as a product coming out... Hopefully rev 4 will get is brother soon...
Thats a good thing im my opinion more power to the P6 owners . Both sit in their own sonic lane an cross-over a little . As N.E.V.B says the P6 covers so much ground.
I’ve never heard anyone say they had a hard time making basses with an Oberheim before .
ob6 is a synth bass monster. its *that* sound. the issue some people have its also *that* sound.
i do admit that the OB6 sounds much more alive, but the Prophet 6's smoothness, warmth and clean sound with a nostalgic feel and that slightly vintage imperfection that distorts it ever so slightly, really gives a feel i wouldnt say you can find on any other synth in the league. by no means are my words law, but in my ears, the prophet 6 has a feel that i wouldnt be able to feel in other ways with other synths
Great video! Both are incredible synths. To me if you can have both that's where it is. If you can only get one I'd probably go OB6 because of its oozing character which I believe informs my need to get hardware synths more these days in a plugin mostly session world. Maybe clients would only use one or two sounds per song from the OB6, but those sounds even in raw form have that mojo straight away. Really you can't go wrong either way. I even like the Rev2 actually.
Yes. Always love your videos mate! Thanks as always
10:00 That's an example of the wonderful musicality of the Prophet-6 sound, filter and resonance.😊❤ No! It's the OB-6! Waaaaahhh!!!!😂
The P6 seems like the better way to go for people gigging with a band. It's a little subtler, and seems like you can let is sit in the background of a mix without it screaming "look at me! I'm a synthesizer". The OB6 sounds more like a synthesizer than most other synthesizers, and if you need that rich character then its probably the better choice for you. ? They both sound great, are both extraordinarily expensive, and both a joy to play.
I have no ill feelings for the Prophet 6, but I just love my OB6.
Got the Take 5. Pretty happy with it. The OB-6 looks amazing though.
I bought both modules. I have always loved the sound of the OB-6 because it is so juicy and it takes me back to my childhood when the originals were out. Love that sound. The P6 fits better in most places.
Prophet 6 for me every time (I also own an OB6 module). But now also Prophet 5 Rev4 which is less versatile than the 6 but the tone is unbelievable. The OB6 is the one everyone prefers, but for me, it has some harshness in the highs/mid highs that are not always wanted so I end up having to sculp them out, which defeats the purpose of the original tone of a synth. I used the OB6 a lot for my ambient and more experimental projects, but for daily usage, 100% Prophet.
The prophet 6 is my all time favorite synthesizer I've owned so I thought the OB-6 would be even better. However when I got it, I was so disappointed. It did not behave in any of the ways I wanted it to. The demos sound great so it must have been user error.
The warmth of the prophet is unparalleled
Thank you for this brief overview of the history of these! That was incredibly educational!
Greatly enjoyed this video! Loved the history and photos in the lead up to the comparison. Thank you!
I love it that someone loves the Prophet-6. It was so underrated.
Then the OB-6 appears and wow. Decisions, decisions.
The OB6 has that character that the Prophet doesn't due to it's filter and now with the vintage mode, it's a tour de force.
You can always make a gritty sound (OB6) milder, on the mixing board, but it's very difficult to give a mellow sounding synth (P6) authentic grit, WHEN it's needed. I go with the OB-6. Thanks very much for the comparison. 🙏
Dope vid bro!
Trigon 6 has entered the chat. :)
That intro was enough for a thumbs up : )
Man, I love both these synths but I found the prophet to be a little easier to work with in the short time I've had with them
Synth A sounds like the Pro6 and synth B sounds like the OB6. The OB6 seems to my ears to have a stronger noisier resonance on the lowpass filter (which I like). That sounded like it was coming through on synth B.
They both sound incredible. I think the Prophet is a bit more smooth, while the OB-6 is a bit more naughty
5:44 To add to confusion, Prophet-6 lit with blue lamp!😂😅👍
I have the OB6 and love it!
Bro, 🔥fire comparison video....but you know you really want a P5 deep down 😢
I mean…the P5 is sooooo large…I’d rather have a OBX recreation in the theee of the P5 from Sequential, that would be amazing!!!
@@NoirEtBlancVie Good news Bro. ..Sequential recently registered the name OBX 💪🔥
Is there a place where we can listen to the background track in the last segment of the video? Amazing review btw, a million thanks!
I'm inspired mostly by old school synth soundtracks and it's shocking that almost everyone used a Prophet-5 and synths like the OBX or OBXa barely made an appearance. It was mostly an Oberheim SEM Four Voice. If an OBX or OBXa was used, it was in conjunction with a larger synth ensemble (for example, Brad Fidel's score for Terminator used an OBXa alongside a Prophet 10 and Emulator 1). So the Prophet 6 was the first Sequential synth I got and I absolutely love it. I had no interest in an OB6 for a long time but as of recently I've started to warm up to it.
I would say in terms of comparisons:
Prophet=New Wave, Phil Collins, Genesis, Tears For Fears, Peter Gabriel, John Carpenter,
Oberheim-Van Halen, Styx, Bon Jovi, TOTO.
It feels like the Oberheim sound is meant to be played alongside a loud band and cut through in a mix where as the Prophet feels more versatile and can be at home anywhere.
Great assessment! That's what I think as well.
Dang…the Prophet cuts like a hot knife…and the OB is smooth like butter….they really are my two favorite sounds…(Korg being my 3rd)
Which Korg?
@@null_state all of the Poly series and the MS line. I even like the DWs, wave station too.
I also bought my prophet6 on my credit card as it was being sold for a great price, might take me three months to pay it off but my god was it worth it - this will be with me for life
I bought a TAKE5 instead of Prophet6, seems like they are similar😂So I choosed a more affordable option. OB-6 and Prophet-6 are both way too much for me.
I have to agree. When I need a sound I reach for the P6 and more times than not I get what I want, weather it be strings, or basses of weird percussive sounds.
Nice history…very cool of Yamaha and Roland. Cool how Dave A Tom got to together. Btw never max out your card unless you can pay it off the same month unless it’s is a dire emergency. (that’s a message for the Kids) I make all my unwise purchases with debit card and only if I have 10k left in emergency fund. Last examples….iPad pro m4/iphone15 pro max at Apple Store impulse…3K headphones and dac/amp…I said no to ob8 but may pull trigger on teo 5.
Finally got around to watching this. For me neither one given the price(s). A P10 desktop plus a Hydrasynth Deluxe is a couple hundred bucks more than an OB-X8 and $800 more than a P10 w/keybed which has no Poly AT.
i came because i needed to know what morphis thinks however this guy is great!
Thank for the demo. Very helpful!
But "synth prices are out of control"??? I'm one of the original Prophet People on the Sequential Circuits poster. My Prophet 5 Rev. 2 cost over $4000. I probably made that back in the first month playing sessions. I think costs of the new analog synths are eminently reasonably.
Yeah it`s all relative to the quality and use. I don`t make any money from music anymore but I understand that quality costs and there are plenty of cheap options out there that are decent too for folks which didn`t really exist years ago as an option. Having said that after some time I did trump up for a Rev2, Nord Electro 6D 73 and an OB 6 desktop to add to my collection just cos I wanted them that much and found the money to spend on `em .......... and they were worth it .......... and will always hold a decent value as well
It is just as you concluded. For me though I will just go with OB-6. I trust OB-6 can be worked around to fit in sound layers with EQs and FXs. But the Prophet can not solo as well as OB-6. Certainly though if you have the money, get both.
The blind test is the perfect example of the differences between the two, especially because the first example is so clearly the Prophet and the second is the OB-6. The OB-6 is just so gritty and if that's what you want it gets you there. Currently I only own the OB-6, but the Prophet 6 I think is the winner overall.
ob6=bees in a jar.
@ghost mall ... well for me the oberheim filter reminds me of that smouldering sound of bees in a jar ...a thousands wings buzzing away randomly ...prophet cant do it.
Synth A. Prophet 6
Synth B. OB6
Yes, that parpy growl gives it away
I respect the passion you must have had to max out credit cards to get the synth. But unless you needed it to perform on stage with, were plugins not good enough?
The first in the ob6, the second p6... I know that filter anywhere.. liked you the p6 is my baby.. I can't wait tell the obx comes out just so all the ob6 is better talk will softly quit.. not that I think the p5 is better then p6, but they are different.. ob6 needs the obx to restore order in the force..lol.
I recently upgraded my Prophet Rev 2 to 16 voices and bought an OB6 desktop, when u stack some sounds from them together u get achieve something tuely epic !
I've been thinking of upgrading my rev2 - is it worth it? have been looking for a side by side comparison of the two but doesn't seem to exist!
@@rohaxfx001 Yeah it took me a couple of years until I could justify spending on the upgrade but in the end it is worth it because duel layer/bi-timbral patches now become more useable and 16 over 8 voices overall will eliminate voice stealing that happens when you have a long release rate on even a regular patch. Now I have a synth that has no limits anymore and so I`m happy with that in the end
and yeah a side by side comparison isn`t really worth it as it`s just about knowing that the above restrictions from before have been lifted
BOTH!
😃👍
I want to say Synth A is prophet and Synth B is Ob, but also I have no idea. Would love to see you do a video on the Take 5 sometime!
I love my Prophet 6. Usable good sounds. The only thing I really don't like is the ugly to big Prophet -6 logo on the right. Makes the machine so ugly. Afraid to damage the machine when I want to get rid of it.
The OB is thick and smooth! 🔥💪🏾
Great video! Any official word on the blind test? Hoping B is inded the OB6 🙂
Two great synths - I have both (with a Pro 3 to go with them). If I HAD to choose one to keep - Id keep the OB. its just more me is all. As for the clips - clip A is the P6, clip B the OB6. A couple of things give it away... First the resonance of the OBs filter - and secondly the clicky snap to the Prophets amp envelope.
They also have fairly different discreet VCO cores
If I had to pick just one, then Prophet 6 for sure.
May Yahweh bless you brother and your videos we love you
I've always liked the prophet 6, one of my top sequential circuits instrument. I've never owned one, eventually in my collectors interest will own a Dave Smith synth one of these days. To be honest I was never really into Oberheim, but I also haven't really looked into the modern classics. It might just be a preference thing, and my likes to dislikes of the sound of it, and maybe not enough demos to my liking.
I've one Dave Smith synth. An evolver mono keyboard. It's absolutely awesome but I've got to be honest I barely use it. Has midi sync problems (arp/sequencer just drift) but it's sound is just awesome. Will never sell as i regret all the synths ive ever sold (apart from korg monologue)
@@SectorSevenSlumz those early modern Dave Smith's. I was on the fence of the tetra 4 or something, but I decided against. Plenty of those ones probably have much programmable options. I was looking into the revs or that wave table one just to do collect something different of the line up.
Awesome Video! Your talk about gear is awesome. More, please!
BOTH !!!!
excellent information 🔥
Desktop of each chained for the indecisive.
came here to decide which of both (desktop) versions i am going to buy. For me its the P6. Thought about buying the keys version but i really like my Korg D1 for playing so i am gonna go with the desktop.
P6 everytime. Thank you.
Both sound great but from the demos, the OB-6 Sounds bit thin to me. I don't get its appeal and prefer the sound of OB-X8 over OB6. Its P6 for me all the way. It seems to be alive and feels like it has a heartbeat and I can't explain why, Gives me goosebumps.
I own both. planned on selling my least favorite and I just can't
I feel you I’m on the same boat
Cool video! 👌
Literally checking Zzounds right now, and they don't offer the Pay as you Play plans on any of the Sequential stuff right now lol. They did a while ago(that's how I got my P6) but not currently.
Daaaaaaaaamn, that sucks. I thought you could on everything. There’s literally NO WAY I can afford gear without payment plans…that’s lame af, it it’s probably a Sequential thing instead of Zzounds.
@@NoirEtBlancVie it's totally a Sequential thing, Zzounds is awesome. I've used them for almost all of my gear! Your video made me want an OB 6 or Prophet 5(I already have the 6) and was looking to see what the 12 month plan would be. Turns out it's not available outside of Affirm financing 😂
@@pjlabarge oh HELLLLL no, never Affirm…god nooooooooo 😩
That’s like a fate worse than death. Totally sucks. I’ve been looking at some rack gear, but I think I’ll have to wait. Prophet 5 is a monster, I heard J3PO’s video on the Prophet 5 vs 6, it’s the best semi-no talking comparison video I’ve ever seen. Made me think about the prophet 5 very seriously!
@@NoirEtBlancVie J3PO is a monster player. Anybody that gets to play with Marcus Miller is a beeeeast. Probably next gear purchase is a Moog Subsequent 37 since the Prophet 6 covers so many bases.
I wait till guitar center has a 4 year 0 interest on the gearcard, and pull the trigger! On that OB6.
They only reason I have not done it it’s because I heard the OB6 and the P6 sound very similar.
I really want to hear someone tell my their different.
By the way, I replaced all the nobs on my Tempest with P6 nobs, looks bad ass!
The answer is quite simple….. it’s yes
That patch in the beginning sounds EXACTLY like my eyes by Travis Scott
The answer is: Get both
OB-6 patch 007 Broken EP I suggest (I Know outrageous to even suggest!) the greatest patch of all time. Dont own one I have a REV2 16 Voice which is actually awesome, but cannot do that SEM thing as only an OBerheim can.....
I can totally agree, everyone is all about patch 007! it's a great number for a patch ;)
Owned an OB6 for 3 years now.
Its an amazing swiss army knife synth with so many sounds.
I do hate the way it saves patches though. And the way that half the patches are read only.
But the notch filter on max resonance!
I do have to admit that it's only about 80% of a true SEM based Obie. I can never quite get that Oberheim SVF shimmer the same way you can with a legit SEM or one of it's derivatives like the 4 voice. But I also don't have that kind of money.
Personally I think people dumping their OB6 for the OBX8 are fools. I don't hear 2 thousand dollars of difference. But when I tried the OB6 next to a Prophet 8 rev2, I did hear more than $1500 difference. The Prophet sounded flat. The OB6 sounded 3D.
I would like to have both. Unfortunately I'm not rich. Lol.
Haha, you and me both…it was sad to box it up and ship it back, but at this point I just want to borrow stuff. There’s no room for buying more synths 🙂
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And what about Prophet 6 vs Prophet Rev 2?
I keep hearing that the knobs are loose on the OB6. Any truth to this ?
Had em both OB6. I regret selling it!
For me it is p5 and ob6
P10 and OB6 here! (had P6 but didn't care for it)
How did you know the exact video I wanted to see?!
We have the Shinning 😅
The OB6 sounds great. But the P6 is SO much more flexible sonically, and can easily be used in all kinds of different musical genres and contexts! It can deliver anything, from classical P5 sounds, up to sounds for modern genres (modern pop, future bass, hip hop, whatever). The OB6, in contrast, always sounds like an 80s synth, in a great, but much more limited way. I'm happy with my P6 choice, and my satisfaction has significantly grown during all the years, since I own this synth. Maybe one day I'll add a OB module, but my first choice is definitely the P6.
I own almost all of the worlds most expensive and sort after synths and I can honestly say from personal experience that they really compliment each other in my ecosystem. They work in symbiosis to truly open up insane sound design possibilities with fat creamy basslines they really are a beast.
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@@adamziolkowski2549 lmao 🤣 I was saying the same thing as I was reading his obnoxious rant
I preferred test sound B over A, but I have no clue which is which!
Trigon maybe?😂
isn't it wild that at the time of this video's posting (early 2022) the P6 is the same price as the P5 (i'm counting a $100 difference as the same)
Oh snap! You’re right, good god the price of the prophet 6 keeps going up and up!!!
@@NoirEtBlancVie yea man it's insane. i'm so thankful i grabbed the P6 before the most recent price hikes. you're prior videos on it actually helped a lot in my decision, so thanks a milli for that, fam ✊🏾
like, is the P6 gonna surpass the 5 in price by next year? haha we'll see i guess
If someone can tell the type of the speakers 1:00 . Please.
The answer is Prophet 5 😎
@@kierenmoore3236 😂❤️ exactly
Prophet 1st, OB6 second
Prophet = A
I’m thinking #2 in blind test is the P6. Am I right? Cant find the answer anywhere. What did I win?!
Just a comment on the prophets.... They have released so many over the last few years it's so hard to know which one I'd want. Too many options can surely be a bad thing?
My dream lineup...one day when I win the lottery:
Prophet 10
Oberheim OB-6
Prophet X
Prophet 6
Korg ARP 2600 M
🙌✌️🎹
Interesting. I want to know why you would go Prophet X over the P6? So different 🤔
@@NoirEtBlancVie Not X over 6, one or the other. X has the stereo awesome sauce but 6 has raw power. I love both!
OB6 first
P6 second
Why not both?
/sees pricetag
ohhhhh.....well then, I'll settle for the VST