Just got the prophet 6 today,,, the new firmware update making the vintage knob what it is now is the real thing. Noice... ob-6 and prophet 6... playing nicely in the studio as they should.
The unison was amazing. The Prophet 6 has so much deep weight, while the OB 6 is just wild. Both meant in a good way. Crazy how different the characters are.
OB-6 sounds unreal! So much more raw/gritty/dirty. Way more up my alley for sure. The Ob-6 is like Eventide & the Prophet 6 is Strymon. I was really sold on the prophet 6 before this video. When you started messing with "The Notch" I was sold. OB-6 owns. The Prophet is polite while the OB-6 punches you in the face!
Its crazy how you play a sound on the PRO and I just think to myself wow thats huge, but the then the simillar sound on the OB is just even crazier (cant even find the right words). Thanks for the comparison Starsky, definitley gonna get the Oberheim
Have to say that I was using my OB-6 for five weeks straight, jumped on a Roland Jupiter-6 and could not believe how much low end was on the Jupiter in comparison. OB-6 is probably the best modern day poly-synth out there, has great character, well rounded and generally reliable but the low end and air still doesn't compare to the earlier gear. I'm not trying to be elitist it's just a genuine 'fresh ears' A B of two synthesizers. The filters are of course completely different but I don't hear any better from other modern poly synthesizers.
As an new OB-6 owner the distortion tip @13:23 and the Unison voicing and detuning @ 10:50 was golden!! This whole video is extremely useful. I will say the differences between these two poly synths is really a matter of personal taste. Like I can't decide if I prefer fat and grit and buzz of the OB-6 or the smooth fatness and warmth of the Prophet-6. I found myself preferring the Prophet @ 10:32. I guess sometimes you want a smooth rich cognac(prophet) and other times you want a strong shot of OB-6 SCOTCH!!!😆
Again, wonderful review. Turning into a fan here! I’m an Oberheim fan boy. Hav an OB8 and just recently acquired an ob6. I have done a bunch of patches on both that are a virtually indistinguishable. And the new vintage function on the ob6 makes them even closer. The OB8 has the page 2 functions that the 6 doesn’t have , ob6 has Xmod for FM type modulation. Love them both.👍
Amazing work! I totally hear the difference between these two now! You really know what you are getting with each one. Will help many people make a decision on whats best for them.
OB-6, or any Oberheim synthesizer is so unique that you can't not notice them in a crowd of synthesizers. Their personality is the strongest I have ever heard from any synthesizers. When that "tune-shifted" smooth mellow sounds with "nano-particles" feel rises up I will immediately recognize that it's an Oberheim. OB-6 is a true masterpiece, which combined the advantage of Sequential Synth(which is easy to program and has rubust built quality) with the classic Oberheim sound. It's just a amazing choice. Sounds extremely rich and iconic. Sometimes it might not be able fit into a mix becasue it's just too unique...but I believe it's the best addition to an existing set up(for example if you already have a TAKE5 or Prophet6 or something). But I heard Behringer is making an UB-Xa and it also sounds insane...considering the price of OB-6...here I come Behringer😂
@@davebellamy4867. I just wish there weren’t so much overlap between them. Besides their filter and choice of sub-osc waveform (OB-6 better here), they are very much the same synth …
@@davebellamy4867 I love hearing other people tweak the OB6 in videos, but when I play one, I'm 80% of the time just not feeling it. My Prophet-6 always feels 'right' when I play with it.
OB-6. Nothing Sounds like that filter. The Prophet is a great synth too. Very distinctly Clear. Love it. Sequential and DS make great synths all the way around. Thanks for this demonstration. I have to agree with you on your conclusion too. It just depends on your style of music.
This was fantastic. Easy to see why people end up with so many synths. Found these two hard to separate on the basis of what I saw/listened to. I vacillated at least 5 times.
They're both great, I think the stand out is the OB but the better overall performer is the p6. It plays better with others and in mixes which frankly was true about the Prophet 5 and OBXA imo. My favorite polys of all time are P5, OBXA, JP8, Synthex and PPG. There is just no way to compare them all they are all great. If I won the lottery there'd be no question about having all of them.
Hey this is a great video. Perfect ratio of talking and synthing. I'm considering selling both my inferior 80's poly's (JX-8P w/ PG-800, DW-8000) to fund the purchase of one of these in desktop format. Your video helps in some ways and confuses me in others. It IS like choosing your favorite child, although, I lean towards blue stripes! Great work though...I'm highly impressed.
I just wanted to say that your demos have been astoundingly helpful in choosing my first analog polysynth. They've shown me that while I definitely greatly prefer the sound of the Ob-6 to the Prophet 6, and slightly prefer the sound of the P6 to the Rev2, In terms of features and play-by-play comparison, I think the Rev2 is the choice for me and my uses. I really found your demos helpful in helping me understand the range and limitations of each instrument, as well as their strengths and drawbacks. You have a great talent for providing objective honesty, even when it comes in the form of saying which you personally prefer, and the amount of thought you put into your demos and comparisons really helps to understand what's actually desirable about things like DCO vs VCO, and how much one synth can get the job done even without the "secret sauce" another might have. Thanks for the great content.
I assume you mean the square sub-osc? Yeah, I agree … and, well, apart from that difference and the filter difference, they are very much the same synth …
Thank you for this great test. I own both of em, and i really can't sell one of them. Both are fantastic and different sounding Poly-synhs. Love them both. Together they play verry well. OB6 is a bit more my favorite, but it appends on what kind of sound you are looking for. Thanx
Nothing wrong with either. I LOVED playing a P5, and I LOVED playing an OB8...BUT, to me, I LOVE the Obie sound. There is just something special about that thickness. It's not as "deep" as a Moog unosynth, but it's got more character.
Fantastic review. Been considering adding a P6 to cosy up beside the OB6 and your demo really helped. Especially the bit with housey stabs. The P6 really shone here. Nevvvver selling the OB though, it just does what it does so well.
This is phenomenal. Thanks for doing this! Very interesting and useful. And I appreciate how systematically you go through the various parameters, etc. Two great synths!
Great video, as usual. I wouldn’t have thought there was as much difference in the oscs, but I guess there is! You’re making it hard not to add an OB-6 to my studio! (And I’ve already got the Prophet 6, which I got before the OB.) I bet the Prophet would still do the lion’s share of analog poly work, but the OB would be like that extra bit of cardamom to spice things up.
I had both, and really liked both of them, but eventually kept the P6 due the cream factor. OB6 is still awesome though and will probably pick up a OB6 desk top version.
great review. The ob-6 is lushes with the notch turned on and sounds beautifully different. While Prophet sounds more snappier. It sounds like the envelopes on the prophet make it better for snappier sounds like base while the ob6 is far more open. Both are beautiful synths, I want them both :)
My wallet hates you, but I deeply appreciate your videos. Thank you! I don't live near a store where I can try these out. I'd love both, but man the OB6 is just lovely. Lovely. It's got a sound that VAs and AUs can't touch, whereas the Prophet is closer to what I can already achieve with VAs. $2.5K seems like a lot for that sound, but you could easily spend more than that on a clarinet or a trumpet.
Oh man, I think you’ve made it even harder for me to decide! They both sound so epic in their own right. :-) I am leaning towards the OB-6, though. There’s just something about it that’s pulling me in...
If you plug in a pedal, you can sweep the P6 filter without any stepping. Just a tip for anyone who is really annoyed by this. I do wish there was a setting to turn the stepping on or off.
As I used to have an OB-8, your video is extremely exciting and nostalgic as well as being very useful in finding the right synth today. Thank you for making and posting this great video. 👍
Great comparison. My OB6 arrives in a few weeks with the new vintage knob function! It's badass!!!!!!!!!!!!! The new Prophet 5/10, IMO gives the true prophet sound that the Prophet 6 is missing.
Great review ! I'd roughly say that I would take Prophet for leads and OB for pads ;) i if one can't afford both, wich is my case. Thanks for this video, i've been watching it a lot of times.
Thanks for the excellent comparison man, helped me out for certain. They sure are both beautiful instruments. I just bought an OB6 and I agree, it’s just a bit more special ! More than likely eventually have a P6 too, they really are both so nice.
Finally did it... I've had the OB-6 for over about 15 months,,,, and still really wanted the Prophet 6,,, alas, After pulling the trigger, and with the new firmware update on the Prophet 6, there really seems to be a peace come over me, no more gnawing, aching lust for a new bit of kit.... OK, I could be fooling myself with that statement, but am still enjoying the honeymoon period with the P6.
thanks so much for this detailed and entertaining review, you really know how synths work which is why its so amazing to see your comparisons and learn the instruments at the same time! thank you so much!!!!!! you rock man!
Yo i love you for this video. I can hear the difference in both. I can also hear distinct tones that bring to mind certain songs that were produced with the original versions of these synths.
The OB-6 is my favorite OB synth of all time. I just bought a Moog One and a Moog Matriarch this year. So it's going to be a fun time bringing an OB-6 home in a few months and looking at my wife's face :)
Both sound great! I've been trying to find a demo of the OB6 that showcases just the pure oscillator tones so I could compare it to the SEM Pro module. Honestly, based on your demo vs some of the SEM demos on RUclips, played through my studio monitors with a sub, I don't hear much of a difference in tone. Thinking about going for the OB6 now. More versatile. Thanks for delivering the goods!
IMO, the OB6 looks cool and sounds cool, perhaps for electronic music Genre. The Prophet 6 sounds very classy for ones leisure or entertainment. Interesting video !
That is great video as always! Thanks Starsky! How about the knobs on both? Are the sturdy or wobbly? I wanted the OB-6 for a long time but it is very expensive in the EU. So if I decide to go for it I want to have an OB-6 with sturdy build quality/sturdy knobs. Have heard/read to much negative on the quality of the knobs. :(
I’ve never thought of them as wobbly. They feel fine to me… but then if you’re used to vintage stuff maybe they are? Giving them a wiggle right now. There’s movement but nothing that’s ever bothered me. My pro one is worse the prophet 5 is and OBX8 have less etc. they’re fine.
31:30 and 32:08. I love both sounds. Quite different so keep both! There seem to be a lot of difference when you push these two machines past what they have in common. I note you like CHO and bbd on the effects. Same here. I like to set them both to 0 mix with effetcs on and then move the mix around while playing. I also really love the arpeggiators and then messing with the sound with both hands free. The design is so immediate and musical to play.
Great video! One thing about the effects section. The ob-6 does have distortion on board. It also includes a third phaser that’s based on an original Tom Oberheim design before he made synths.
Fantastic video, love your approach, really gives us a feel for how these two synths are different. Two questions: - does the high end / grittiness of the OB-6 become irritating after a day's work listening to it? - which better complements a Prophet 08 Rev 2? Thanks!
Cheers. Glad you liked it. Two answers:) - no it's not harsh or irritating in any way - adds a little excitement to the day. - this is a really difficult question. I think the Rev2 covers so much ground it can do OB-6 with its 12dB filter (no notch/blend though) and it can sound like the Pro-6. I used to have the P8 but sold it when I got the P6 and OB6. I was hoping to replace them both with the Rev2 but had issues with a couple I tried... you may have seen my P6 vs Rev2 comparison. If I had to pick one to go with the Rev2 it would be the OB-6 as it adds so much more with the SEM filter. Rev2 has a digital high pass in the FX section plus a 24dB self-resonating low pass, so covers P6 ground but it can't replicate the SEM style filter.
My god that OBie is in a league of it's own with pads/filter sweeps...so beautiful indeed! But for my first hardware synth, I see myself getting the Prophet 6 for versatility/cutting through the mix. Let's face it, I'll probably get the Ob-6 eventually as well...gotta have those syrupy pads! XD
Patch sound at 28:11 sounds great for the prophet 6. Really like that one. I own an OB 6 desktop but the prophet 6 really does sound good in its own right.
Bought the ob6 module. Didn’t need another keyboard (space in studio) so I tried both the units hooked up to a master keyboard. I was sold immediately on the Oberhiem. Both great machines. Neither is better than the other. The ob6 just suited my ears. 🕶🎶
I knew that I should decide with prophet6 of polymodulation or OB-6 of cross modulation. The sound comes to the front of OB-6. It was helpful. Thank you.
Good, I found your P6 vs OB6 review! I'm glad you did one because I liked the style of the DeepMind12 vs Juno106 comparison. I have a P6 from a swap deal and no OB6 hut I would like one. Do the controls on the OB6 feel as nice as the P6 because I really like the P6 potentiometer feel. I also love the sound. I was not keen on the Prophet 6 presets but programming it is a blast. I want an Obie 6 to go with it.
Thanks for the answer! Good point about the sub osc on the P6 that souds like it's underneath the sound. That is really true. Sometimes I even wondered if it was 2 octaves below. On the other hand, it gives a bit of a 12-string guitar effect.
@@StarskyCarr I'm gonna update now. Got the OB6 delivered on my best mate's birthday in July 2019. I had to go home from his house to take delivery!🤣 Bought myself an OB-6 for my mate's birthday! It was one of the very first Sequential labelled ones #03638. It had an odd behaviour on the subosc that is typical of them so I tried another one #03632, which was labelled DSI. In the end I kept the Sequential one of course. I had both in the house at the same time. Plus the P6!🤣😊👍 ruclips.net/video/eV2Oio6xuDk/видео.html
李智上 it’s a Jaspers stand bought from Thomann in Germany. It’s on castors so I can easily move it to access the rear of my rack. It’s a bit wobbly but hasn’t collapsed yet ;). Had it about 6 or 7 years I think.
Great video as always Starsky Car. I shadowed the first part of your for 12 minutes comparing the sounds of both the OB-6 and the P-6 with my Prologue 16. All 3 have different characters which is great. Depending on what sound or style you are looking for depends on what synth you use to create it. To be honest I am partial to all 3. I love the harsh buzz of the OB-6, the smoothness of the P-6 and the deceptive flexibility of the Prologue (it does both but doesn't overlap the sound of either the OB-6 or the P-6). I wouldn't be able to choose between the OB-6 and the P-6 as they both have character that I would love to bring into my productions. You are one of the fortunate few who has both
Haha what happened at 13 minutes ;). Never played with a prologue and I’m all Poly’d up at the mo so doubtful I’ll get my hands on one anytime soon. I’d be interested in how they compare.
You edited and switched to basses and I couldn't follow as quickly lol. If you want to borrow mine for a few days I could allow that. We have mutual friends from Toxteth and you have worked with my cousin back in the days so I trust yah lol. You're just up the M62 from me in Manny. Let me know as it would be a good comparison to do
I just got a Moog One and love it and it replaced several of my other synths but I'm still considering the OB6 for THAT sound. Now it's looking like Dave and Tom are reissuing the OBX so I'm going to wait so I can compare features and whatnot.
awesome comparison! how do these sounds through HEADPHONES? i have limited space and can't make too much noise. is it complete nonsense to get one of these only to play them through headphones? might as well go digital? or running things through a sound interface would help? sorry if silly questions, noob here
35:40 totally understand you, man you do love both right? We shouldn't be asked whether we love mommy or daddy more. We need to own both. Thanks for the wonderful comparison. No better/worse, just different. Both great! PS) I tend to be attracted to granular, dirtier sound than smoother or ethereal sound...
would be good if DSI would come with a mark-2 update of the OB-6 providing more LFOs and a knob-changing recording feature (even at eliminating the digital effect-section instead)
Having been involved in music most of my life i found very quickly that keyboards were the way to go for variation of sound, my first was a Casio Cz5000, which i quickly added a Roland J.X.8P. A while later , i had the chance of gefting am ax73m and my last purchase was a Kursweil. Along with a dedicated sampler by Roland and about three sound modules and a harmony box and a couple of SQ sequencers i found that i had just about every sound you can think of with a really nice balance in different sound where ever i wanted to go. I know that these are now considered really old hat but in reality there arevnone of the modern sounds that i cannot create myself, I taught music fot fifteen years which i really enjoyed doing while at the same time playing at conncerts. I have found that the Kursweil really is a great keyboard that plays very much like a piano. I dontbthink I would evervwantbto part with any of the gear i have even though i now play for my own pleasure after an accident where i lost some fingers on my left hand. I also like listening to tthe likes of Elton John, and paul Mc.Cartney at the pure ease that music seems to pore out of their skin , it really is a gift and one has to be grateful for something so satisfying, a nd beingbable to pass it on was something that i have been grateful for, as there is a great satisfaction from passing something on regardless of who it was, so much so i think its a shame that many schools no longer have music lessons anymore.
OB-6 is a much more valuable synth to have in the analogue realm. I find the Prophet sound can be recreated fairly convincingly from Arturia etc. The Oberheim sound is proving much harder to digitize. having played Prophets in a few studios, I find myself thinking it sound like a plugin, whereas Ob's I always want to track in audio, especially the Prophet 12 which I find sounds WORSE than the Arturia prophet XD
You always here the positive elements in a youtube demo. What are the con's of the OB-6? Are the knobs "infinite" turning? Are the knobs wobbly or sturdy? is the built quality worth the money?
@@StarskyCarr I remember Behringer of yesteryear. Because of build quality, I stayed away from that product line, after a bad experience. So, has Behringer had a better focus on better components and build quality??? I would be curious to know, without getting burned again...
I am guessing the P6 fits in a mix better, but there is something sexy about the OB. I have the P6, but I would love to add the OB as well. Don't NEED it, but WANT it!
For me the Prophet is more geared towards soundtrack works or music like Peter Gabriel or Phil Collins. More UK based. The Oberheim is more for that 80s American synth rock sound. Like if you play with a band. I’m a soundtrack guy personally and I can count on one hand how many soundtracks used an Oberheim by itself. More often than not though an Oberheim was always played with something else...including Prophets. Now soundtracks that used Prophets? The list goes on and on.
Interesting - I never thought about it from a soundtrack perspective. You’re right I think in hat the OB is a great synth to supplement others, but may be a little too distinctive as your one and only poly.
Agreed. Even in a band setting the synth sounds of Jump, Don't You Forget About Me, etc are all thick, fuzzy brass stabs. Songs like Everybody Wants To Rule The World, Forever Young, In The Air Tonight etc are all quite a bit softer than their Oberhiem counterparts.
I'm just trying to think of the films that used ONLY an Oberheim as it's only synth. Revenge Of The Ninja, Young Warriors, Flash Gordon, The Exterminator, Maniac Cop, Invasion USA...hmm...that's about it really but even those scores either had orchestras or guitars playing alongside the synth. Every other time an Oberhiem appeared it was always partnered up with something else...most of the time a Prophet.
wonderful. all you did was convince me i need both.
agreed lol
2nd that
Just got the prophet 6 today,,, the new firmware update making the vintage knob what it is now is the real thing. Noice... ob-6 and prophet 6... playing nicely in the studio as they should.
The OB-6 is crack to us !
The unison was amazing. The Prophet 6 has so much deep weight, while the OB 6 is just wild. Both meant in a good way. Crazy how different the characters are.
OB-6 sounds unreal! So much more raw/gritty/dirty. Way more up my alley for sure. The Ob-6 is like Eventide & the Prophet 6 is Strymon. I was really sold on the prophet 6 before this video. When you started messing with "The Notch" I was sold. OB-6 owns.
The Prophet is polite while the OB-6 punches you in the face!
@Luke The neverending GAS.
Its crazy how you play a sound on the PRO and I just think to myself wow thats huge, but the then the simillar sound on the OB is just even crazier (cant even find the right words). Thanks for the comparison Starsky, definitley gonna get the Oberheim
Love that OB so much! Can't believe how much low end is there. I do love that dreamy resonance on the Pro 6 though! I guess I need both......:(
BTW,
Thanks so much, great demo!
Have to say that I was using my OB-6 for five weeks straight, jumped on a Roland Jupiter-6 and could not believe how much low end was on the Jupiter in comparison. OB-6 is probably the best modern day poly-synth out there, has great character, well rounded and generally reliable but the low end and air still doesn't compare to the earlier gear. I'm not trying to be elitist it's just a genuine 'fresh ears' A B of two synthesizers. The filters are of course completely different but I don't hear any better from other modern poly synthesizers.
As an new OB-6 owner the distortion tip @13:23 and the Unison voicing and detuning @ 10:50 was golden!! This whole video is extremely useful. I will say the differences between these two poly synths is really a matter of personal taste. Like I can't decide if I prefer fat and grit and buzz of the OB-6 or the smooth fatness and warmth of the Prophet-6. I found myself preferring the Prophet @ 10:32.
I guess sometimes you want a smooth rich cognac(prophet) and other times you want a strong shot of OB-6 SCOTCH!!!😆
Hey Brian are you still enjoying your ob 6? And how do you find it cutting through the mix and with studio recordings?
Again, wonderful review. Turning into a fan here! I’m an Oberheim fan boy. Hav an OB8 and just recently acquired an ob6. I have done a bunch of patches on both that are a virtually indistinguishable. And the new vintage function on the ob6 makes them even closer. The OB8 has the page 2 functions that the 6 doesn’t have , ob6 has Xmod for FM type modulation. Love them both.👍
Amazing work! I totally hear the difference between these two now! You really know what you are getting with each one. Will help many people make a decision on whats best for them.
Thanks, that’s what I was going for so good to know.
OB-6, or any Oberheim synthesizer is so unique that you can't not notice them in a crowd of synthesizers. Their personality is the strongest I have ever heard from any synthesizers. When that "tune-shifted" smooth mellow sounds with "nano-particles" feel rises up I will immediately recognize that it's an Oberheim. OB-6 is a true masterpiece, which combined the advantage of Sequential Synth(which is easy to program and has rubust built quality) with the classic Oberheim sound. It's just a amazing choice. Sounds extremely rich and iconic. Sometimes it might not be able fit into a mix becasue it's just too unique...but I believe it's the best addition to an existing set up(for example if you already have a TAKE5 or Prophet6 or something). But I heard Behringer is making an UB-Xa and it also sounds insane...considering the price of OB-6...here I come Behringer😂
OB6 fits with the Prophet-6 like a glove.
@@davebellamy4867. I just wish there weren’t so much overlap between them. Besides their filter and choice of sub-osc waveform (OB-6 better here), they are very much the same synth …
Two of the best ever? Could be! Can never imagine the love I have for my prophet 6.. It is my dream and my reality!
P6 is wonderful but the OB6 always seems to excel in demos! When I'm playing the P6, the fun begins. They're both rather brilliant, I think.
@@davebellamy4867 I love hearing other people tweak the OB6 in videos, but when I play one, I'm 80% of the time just not feeling it. My Prophet-6 always feels 'right' when I play with it.
OB-6. Nothing Sounds like that filter. The Prophet is a great synth too. Very distinctly Clear. Love it. Sequential and DS make great synths all the way around. Thanks for this demonstration. I have to agree with you on your conclusion too. It just depends on your style of music.
I am just in the decision process and this video is so helpful!
This was fantastic. Easy to see why people end up with so many synths. Found these two hard to separate on the basis of what I saw/listened to. I vacillated at least 5 times.
“I vacillated at least 5 times.”
Was that a euphemism?! 🤔
@@kierenmoore3236 No, but I might have had more fun choosing a synth if it were…
They're both great, I think the stand out is the OB but the better overall performer is the p6. It plays better with others and in mixes which frankly was true about the Prophet 5 and OBXA imo. My favorite polys of all time are P5, OBXA, JP8, Synthex and PPG. There is just no way to compare them all they are all great. If I won the lottery there'd be no question about having
all of them.
Yeah - Moog sucks!!! 😉
Yet another fantastic demo from you, you big geek :) I love the OB-6 personally... thank you for the videos!
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Thanks - very nice of you. Glad you liked it.
Hey this is a great video. Perfect ratio of talking and synthing. I'm considering selling both my inferior 80's poly's (JX-8P w/ PG-800, DW-8000) to fund the purchase of one of these in desktop format. Your video helps in some ways and confuses me in others. It IS like choosing your favorite child, although, I lean towards blue stripes! Great work though...I'm highly impressed.
Never sell your old stuff man. You'll regret it... really :-)
Excellent video - first time i’ve heard the differences between the two so clearly exposed.
Great review! They are so similar. You can’t go wrong with these synths
I just wanted to say that your demos have been astoundingly helpful in choosing my first analog polysynth. They've shown me that while I definitely greatly prefer the sound of the Ob-6 to the Prophet 6, and slightly prefer the sound of the P6 to the Rev2, In terms of features and play-by-play comparison, I think the Rev2 is the choice for me and my uses. I really found your demos helpful in helping me understand the range and limitations of each instrument, as well as their strengths and drawbacks. You have a great talent for providing objective honesty, even when it comes in the form of saying which you personally prefer, and the amount of thought you put into your demos and comparisons really helps to understand what's actually desirable about things like DCO vs VCO, and how much one synth can get the job done even without the "secret sauce" another might have. Thanks for the great content.
A pleasure, and thanks for the lovely comment, much appreciated :)
8:48 The reason I prefer the OB-6
it sounds squelchier but is it because of the keyboard or the person using it here?
Any beyerdynamic wearers w me?
@@brendanjames8818 1990Pro here
I assume you mean the square sub-osc? Yeah, I agree … and, well, apart from that difference and the filter difference, they are very much the same synth …
Thank you for this great test. I own both of em, and i really can't sell one of them. Both are fantastic and different sounding Poly-synhs. Love them both. Together they play verry well. OB6 is a bit more my favorite, but it appends on what kind of sound you are looking for. Thanx
Nothing wrong with either. I LOVED playing a P5, and I LOVED playing an OB8...BUT, to me, I LOVE the Obie sound. There is just something special about that thickness. It's not as "deep" as a Moog unosynth, but it's got more character.
Fantastic review. Been considering adding a P6 to cosy up beside the OB6 and your demo really helped. Especially the bit with housey stabs. The P6 really shone here.
Nevvvver selling the OB though, it just does what it does so well.
This is phenomenal. Thanks for doing this! Very interesting and useful. And I appreciate how systematically you go through the various parameters, etc. Two great synths!
Oh how i miss my Pro 6!
Oredered the OB6 last night though!!!
CAN'T WAIT!!!
Great vids by the way, top quality.
Keep up the good work.
Cheers Starsky - for me OB-6 all the way, so bought one..!!
Great video, as usual. I wouldn’t have thought there was as much difference in the oscs, but I guess there is! You’re making it hard not to add an OB-6 to my studio! (And I’ve already got the Prophet 6, which I got before the OB.) I bet the Prophet would still do the lion’s share of analog poly work, but the OB would be like that extra bit of cardamom to spice things up.
From the filter movements I'm getting a strong Terminator synth vibe from the OB6 and a very 70's galactic vibe from the Prophet 6.
32:15 ! Wow that resonance almost made me cry, so beautiful.
I had both, and really liked both of them, but eventually kept the P6 due the cream factor. OB6 is still awesome though and will probably pick up a OB6 desk top version.
Man that OB6 at 22:09!! Wow. It's like grains of sand. So fine. Love the resolution on analogue.
While you use it is like making love.
ASMR inducing!
Sweeeeeeshhhhh, swoooooshhhhh!
great review. The ob-6 is lushes with the notch turned on and sounds beautifully different. While Prophet sounds more snappier. It sounds like the envelopes on the prophet make it better for snappier sounds like base while the ob6 is far more open. Both are beautiful synths, I want them both :)
Really great review! Just was I was looking for... THANKS!
My wallet hates you, but I deeply appreciate your videos. Thank you! I don't live near a store where I can try these out. I'd love both, but man the OB6 is just lovely. Lovely. It's got a sound that VAs and AUs can't touch, whereas the Prophet is closer to what I can already achieve with VAs. $2.5K seems like a lot for that sound, but you could easily spend more than that on a clarinet or a trumpet.
I really appreciate you taking the time to show the scope for the waveforms. I'm visual.
Oh man, I think you’ve made it even harder for me to decide! They both sound so epic in their own right. :-) I am leaning towards the OB-6, though. There’s just something about it that’s pulling me in...
If you plug in a pedal, you can sweep the P6 filter without any stepping. Just a tip for anyone who is really annoyed by this. I do wish there was a setting to turn the stepping on or off.
As I used to have an OB-8, your video is extremely exciting and nostalgic as well as being very useful in finding the right synth today. Thank you for making and posting this great video. 👍
"Sounds like the devil's comin to get ya" (the Ob-6) Got a laugh out of that one
DSI really has it going on don't they? The warmth and size of tone they pack into these boxes is insane.
Great comparison. My OB6 arrives in a few weeks with the new vintage knob function! It's badass!!!!!!!!!!!!! The new Prophet 5/10, IMO gives the true prophet sound that the Prophet 6 is missing.
Great review ! I'd roughly say that I would take Prophet for leads and OB for pads ;) i if one can't afford both, wich is my case. Thanks for this video, i've been watching it a lot of times.
This video proves that I need to get an OB-6 and a Prophet 6. Now I just need to find a good winning lotto ticket.
Thanks for the excellent comparison man, helped me out for certain. They sure are both beautiful instruments. I just bought an OB6 and I agree, it’s just a bit more special ! More than likely eventually have a P6 too, they really are both so nice.
Finally did it... I've had the OB-6 for over about 15 months,,,, and still really wanted the Prophet 6,,, alas, After pulling the trigger, and with the new firmware update on the Prophet 6, there really seems to be a peace come over me, no more gnawing, aching lust for a new bit of kit.... OK, I could be fooling myself with that statement, but am still enjoying the honeymoon period with the P6.
Angel and Demon both got there serious charm, im an ob6 owner ;) ..but also loving the round/smoothness of the p6
thanks so much for this detailed and entertaining review, you really know how synths work which is why its so amazing to see your comparisons and learn the instruments at the same time! thank you so much!!!!!! you rock man!
They both sound beautiful.
Yo i love you for this video. I can hear the difference in both. I can also hear distinct tones that bring to mind certain songs that were produced with the original versions of these synths.
The OB-6 is my favorite OB synth of all time. I just bought a Moog One and a Moog Matriarch this year. So it's going to be a fun time bringing an OB-6 home in a few months and looking at my wife's face :)
Whoaw that’s quite some spending spree 🤩
Both sound great! I've been trying to find a demo of the OB6 that showcases just the pure oscillator tones so I could compare it to the SEM Pro module. Honestly, based on your demo vs some of the SEM demos on RUclips, played through my studio monitors with a sub, I don't hear much of a difference in tone. Thinking about going for the OB6 now. More versatile. Thanks for delivering the goods!
Great comparison - thanks for the work and effort you‘ve put into it
IMO, the OB6 looks cool and sounds cool, perhaps for electronic music Genre. The Prophet 6 sounds very classy for ones leisure or entertainment. Interesting video !
Thank you so much for this comparison video (and ALL the videos you make!) So incredibly helpful! THANK YOU!
Nice comparison video or two amazing analogs synths. I love when effects are removed at 28 minutes and they still sounds soo rich!
That is great video as always! Thanks Starsky! How about the knobs on both? Are the sturdy or wobbly? I wanted the OB-6 for a long time but it is very expensive in the EU. So if I decide to go for it I want to have an OB-6 with sturdy build quality/sturdy knobs. Have heard/read to much negative on the quality of the knobs. :(
I’ve never thought of them as wobbly. They feel fine to me… but then if you’re used to vintage stuff maybe they are? Giving them a wiggle right now. There’s movement but nothing that’s ever bothered me. My pro one is worse the prophet 5 is and OBX8 have less etc. they’re fine.
@@StarskyCarr Thanks a lot for that :)
Can't go wrong with either synth. They're both great. However, I'm a sucker for the filter on the OB-6.
31:30 and 32:08. I love both sounds. Quite different so keep both! There seem to be a lot of difference when you push these two machines past what they have in common. I note you like CHO and bbd on the effects. Same here. I like to set them both to 0 mix with effetcs on and then move the mix around while playing. I also really love the arpeggiators and then messing with the sound with both hands free. The design is so immediate and musical to play.
Excellent job capturing the essence of both synths!
Great video!
One thing about the effects section. The ob-6 does have distortion on board. It also includes a third phaser that’s based on an original Tom Oberheim design before he made synths.
Thanks for the info - something else to have a play with ;)
The effects from the OB6 (PH3, Flangers and Ring Mod) were all add to a firmware update for Prophet 6.
The problem with these synths is that once you have one, you start wondering about the other one. I guess that's why so many peeps end up with both :)
It’s the same with women
@@eyesintheskies Good point :)
I don't want them to sound the same... That's what makes them so different.. I think I would get the Prophet 6 first. Great video!
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Fantastic video, love your approach, really gives us a feel for how these two synths are different.
Two questions:
- does the high end / grittiness of the OB-6 become irritating after a day's work listening to it?
- which better complements a Prophet 08 Rev 2?
Thanks!
Cheers. Glad you liked it.
Two answers:)
- no it's not harsh or irritating in any way - adds a little excitement to the day.
- this is a really difficult question. I think the Rev2 covers so much ground it can do OB-6 with its 12dB filter (no notch/blend though) and it can sound like the Pro-6. I used to have the P8 but sold it when I got the P6 and OB6. I was hoping to replace them both with the Rev2 but had issues with a couple I tried... you may have seen my P6 vs Rev2 comparison.
If I had to pick one to go with the Rev2 it would be the OB-6 as it adds so much more with the SEM filter. Rev2 has a digital high pass in the FX section plus a 24dB self-resonating low pass, so covers P6 ground but it can't replicate the SEM style filter.
Thanks - I really liked the sound of the OB-6 from your video :)
great demo - wish everybody offered these skills. i own their ancestors - a prophet 5 and an OB8 ;)
Thanks... lucky you:)
Wow - both sound just massive and fantastic
Wow, this OB6 sounds awesome. I want it!!!
It's so good!
Thanks for this video. I have both a love these guys. Each has his own personality.
My god that OBie is in a league of it's own with pads/filter sweeps...so beautiful indeed! But for my first hardware synth, I see myself getting the Prophet 6 for versatility/cutting through the mix. Let's face it, I'll probably get the Ob-6 eventually as well...gotta have those syrupy pads! XD
Patch sound at 28:11 sounds great for the prophet 6. Really like that one. I own an OB 6 desktop but the prophet 6 really does sound good in its own right.
Bought the ob6 module. Didn’t need another keyboard (space in studio) so I tried both the units hooked up to a master keyboard. I was sold immediately on the Oberhiem. Both great machines. Neither is better than the other. The ob6 just suited my ears. 🕶🎶
The Prophet 6 😊
I could listen to the loop at 22 Minutes all day
I knew that I should decide with prophet6 of polymodulation or OB-6 of cross modulation. The sound comes to the front of OB-6. It was helpful. Thank you.
6 years on - What do you think about getting the new Oberheim TEO-5 and the Prophet 6? Is that the perfect combo?
Good, I found your P6 vs OB6 review! I'm glad you did one because I liked the style of the DeepMind12 vs Juno106 comparison. I have a P6 from a swap deal and no OB6 hut I would like one. Do the controls on the OB6 feel as nice as the P6 because I really like the P6 potentiometer feel. I also love the sound. I was not keen on the Prophet 6 presets but programming it is a blast. I want an Obie 6 to go with it.
I can highly recommend the OB6. It’s just as inspiring as the P6 and the pots are as high quality. Glad you’re liking the vids.
Thanks for the answer! Good point about the sub osc on the P6 that souds like it's underneath the sound. That is really true. Sometimes I even wondered if it was 2 octaves below. On the other hand, it gives a bit of a 12-string guitar effect.
@@StarskyCarr I'm gonna update now. Got the OB6 delivered on my best mate's birthday in July 2019. I had to go home from his house to take delivery!🤣 Bought myself an OB-6 for my mate's birthday! It was one of the very first Sequential labelled ones #03638. It had an odd behaviour on the subosc that is typical of them so I tried another one #03632, which was labelled DSI. In the end I kept the Sequential one of course. I had both in the house at the same time. Plus the P6!🤣😊👍
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Great video. Like them both for different reasons- What rack is that you're using? I keep having bad luck with poor quality multi-rack stands...
李智上 it’s a Jaspers stand bought from Thomann in Germany. It’s on castors so I can easily move it to access the rear of my rack. It’s a bit wobbly but hasn’t collapsed yet ;). Had it about 6 or 7 years I think.
Magnificent demo. How do you activate the chord function?
using unison mode.... set it to chord.
Came for the comparison. Stayed to listen to the gorgeous wonderful sonic cathedral of sound.
Great video as always Starsky Car. I shadowed the first part of your for 12 minutes comparing the sounds of both the OB-6 and the P-6 with my Prologue 16. All 3 have different characters which is great. Depending on what sound or style you are looking for depends on what synth you use to create it. To be honest I am partial to all 3. I love the harsh buzz of the OB-6, the smoothness of the P-6 and the deceptive flexibility of the Prologue (it does both but doesn't overlap the sound of either the OB-6 or the P-6).
I wouldn't be able to choose between the OB-6 and the P-6 as they both have character that I would love to bring into my productions. You are one of the fortunate few who has both
Haha what happened at 13 minutes ;). Never played with a prologue and I’m all Poly’d up at the mo so doubtful I’ll get my hands on one anytime soon. I’d be interested in how they compare.
You edited and switched to basses and I couldn't follow as quickly lol. If you want to borrow mine for a few days I could allow that. We have mutual friends from Toxteth and you have worked with my cousin back in the days so I trust yah lol. You're just up the M62 from me in Manny. Let me know as it would be a good comparison to do
Yeah let’s do it that would be great. PM me.
Nice demo, it changed my mind, thanks!
12:39 - when a 12dp filter rocks more than a 24db. It may be a question of taste, but I largely prefer the OB-6!
12db filters are really underrated.
I just got a Moog One and love it and it replaced several of my other synths but I'm still considering the OB6 for THAT sound. Now it's looking like Dave and Tom are reissuing the OBX so I'm going to wait so I can compare features and whatnot.
Very useful. I think the OB6 will be my next purchase.
awesome comparison! how do these sounds through HEADPHONES? i have limited space and can't make too much noise. is it complete nonsense to get one of these only to play them through headphones? might as well go digital? or running things through a sound interface would help? sorry if silly questions, noob here
Prophet sounds much closer, punchier and tight. OB great for back Pads or something. Thank you for great work🙏🏻
It's impossilbe to make a choice between these two beauties. Goodbye good 'ol sleep for the next 5 years or so :(
35:40 totally understand you, man you do love both right? We shouldn't be asked whether we love mommy or daddy more. We need to own both. Thanks for the wonderful comparison. No better/worse, just different. Both great! PS) I tend to be attracted to granular, dirtier sound than smoother or ethereal sound...
Agreed. Both would work well together in the studio synth family for sure.
Wonderfull vid !!!
My favourite synth : both OB6 & P6
The blessing and curse of the ob6 is it always sounds like an Oberheim.
would be good if DSI would come with a mark-2 update of the OB-6 providing more LFOs and a knob-changing recording feature (even at eliminating the digital effect-section instead)
Having been involved in music most of my life i found very quickly that keyboards were the way to go for variation of sound, my first was a Casio Cz5000, which i quickly added a Roland J.X.8P.
A while later , i had the chance of gefting am ax73m and my last purchase was a Kursweil.
Along with a dedicated sampler by Roland and about three sound modules and a harmony box and a couple of SQ sequencers i found that i had just about every sound you can think of with a really nice balance in different sound where ever i wanted to go.
I know that these are now considered really old hat but in reality there arevnone of the modern sounds that i cannot create myself, I taught music fot fifteen years which i really enjoyed doing while at the same
time playing at conncerts.
I have found that the Kursweil really is a great keyboard that plays very much like a piano.
I dontbthink I would evervwantbto part with any of the gear i have even though i now play for my own pleasure after an accident where i lost some fingers on my left hand.
I also like listening to tthe likes of Elton John, and paul Mc.Cartney at the pure ease that music seems to pore out of their skin , it really is a gift and one has to be grateful for something so satisfying, a nd beingbable to pass it on was something that i have been grateful for, as there is a great satisfaction from passing something on regardless of who it was, so much so i think its a shame that many schools no longer have music lessons anymore.
OB-6 is a much more valuable synth to have in the analogue realm. I find the Prophet sound can be recreated fairly convincingly from Arturia etc. The Oberheim sound is proving much harder to digitize. having played Prophets in a few studios, I find myself thinking it sound like a plugin, whereas Ob's I always want to track in audio, especially the Prophet 12 which I find sounds WORSE than the Arturia prophet XD
diva can do p6 finger in the nose
You always here the positive elements in a youtube demo.
What are the con's of the OB-6?
Are the knobs "infinite" turning?
Are the knobs wobbly or sturdy?
is the built quality worth the money?
The only real negative is the price. Let’s see what Behringer do with their OB clone
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I remember Behringer of yesteryear. Because of build quality, I stayed away from that product line, after a bad experience. So, has Behringer had a better focus on better components and build quality??? I would be curious to know, without getting burned again...
Still the best analog polysynths outhere .
Very interesting video, well done ! Many thanks.
I was so sold to Ob-6... till i watched your video :o oh man... im def having second thoughts...!
I am guessing the P6 fits in a mix better, but there is something sexy about the OB. I have the P6, but I would love to add the OB as well. Don't NEED it, but WANT it!
Leaning towards the Prophet 6, prefer the smoother sound.
For me the Prophet is more geared towards soundtrack works or music like Peter Gabriel or Phil Collins. More UK based. The Oberheim is more for that 80s American synth rock sound. Like if you play with a band. I’m a soundtrack guy personally and I can count on one hand how many soundtracks used an Oberheim by itself. More often than not though an Oberheim was always played with something else...including Prophets. Now soundtracks that used Prophets? The list goes on and on.
Interesting - I never thought about it from a soundtrack perspective. You’re right I think in hat the OB is a great synth to supplement others, but may be a little too distinctive as your one and only poly.
Agreed. Even in a band setting the synth sounds of Jump, Don't You Forget About Me, etc are all thick, fuzzy brass stabs. Songs like Everybody Wants To Rule The World, Forever Young, In The Air Tonight etc are all quite a bit softer than their Oberhiem counterparts.
I'm just trying to think of the films that used ONLY an Oberheim as it's only synth. Revenge Of The Ninja, Young Warriors, Flash Gordon, The Exterminator, Maniac Cop, Invasion USA...hmm...that's about it really but even those scores either had orchestras or guitars playing alongside the synth. Every other time an Oberhiem appeared it was always partnered up with something else...most of the time a Prophet.
Watched this vid to try and decide which to get. My conclusion I want them both now .Loving your patches don't suppose you have made them available.
Cheers, that’s also the conclusion I came to! I’m not sure what patches I used or even if I’ve saved them. Maybe I’ll make a bank.
@@StarskyCarr Please consider this. There were some really nice majestic pad there.