BMW M4 vs Formula 4 Racecar

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • I'm at Brands Hatch to have a go in a Formula 4 open-wheel, single-seat racecar, and before that it's some warm up laps in the BMW M4, but how do they compare?
    There's no question the M4 is the 'faster' with 450hp to the 185hp of the F4 car, but when you factor in the aerodynamics, the grip levels, and the experience, how do they stack up?
    The day is part of MSV's Experience Days, you can see more at: www.msvdrivingg...
    Thanks for watching, Tim
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Комментарии • 220

  • @easilytriggered3891
    @easilytriggered3891 7 лет назад +191

    Drove so slow it looked like a funeral convoy

  • @ChristopherDonaldson
    @ChristopherDonaldson 7 лет назад +79

    You looked like a Sunday driver out there on the track....lol!!!

    • @Shmee150
      @Shmee150  7 лет назад +34

      Might look like that, did not feel like that ;)

    • @ChristopherDonaldson
      @ChristopherDonaldson 7 лет назад +1

      I believe you for sure. Its a total different feeling behind the wheel..

  • @kuglepen64
    @kuglepen64 7 лет назад +87

    Driving like a granny.

  • @TuddecBMW
    @TuddecBMW 7 лет назад +56

    I expected an actual race between an M4 and a Formula 4.

    • @South4153
      @South4153 7 лет назад +14

      Tuddec that's what you call clickbait welcome to the internet(;

  • @NickRS1
    @NickRS1 7 лет назад +29

    I can't stop watching your tongue when you speak

  • @ExtremeRunning1
    @ExtremeRunning1 7 лет назад +35

    driving pretty slow compared to archie

    • @Shmee150
      @Shmee150  7 лет назад +54

      Two times Le Mans driver vs Amateur racing car driver... What did you expect? ;)

    • @JS106
      @JS106 7 лет назад +1

      Lol

    • @marcSVJ
      @marcSVJ 7 лет назад

      Hendrik Oostenenk Archie was like flat flat flat !

    • @puma490
      @puma490 11 дней назад

      @@Shmee150you seem scared to push something that wants too be pushed m4s passing you lol. get on that mf they don’t care

  • @mowie71
    @mowie71 Год назад +2

    I did this experience earlier this year and absolutely loved it! The instructors were fantastic and really bought the Racing Driver out in me. Although expensive, I'd do it again and again

    • @leefatusa6991
      @leefatusa6991 Год назад

      Do they add a speed a limit on the F4 ? Or do they let you drive to the very edge

  • @kahlaaja
    @kahlaaja 7 лет назад +3

    Omg I just cannot get how frequently you do all kinds of different cool car stuff - I´m getting a bit out breath by this pace, I guess.. Awesome job, Tim! You made my day yet again!

  • @sxemontague1
    @sxemontague1 6 лет назад +3

    Did this last month (F4 Master Experience). Did a 55.78. (Average speed ~ 78mph). So while they arnt crazy fast, theres nothing quite like driving a single seater. Especially if you have not done it before.
    If you have any questions about this experience ill do my best to answer.

    • @CaptJofaz
      @CaptJofaz 2 года назад

      You're about 10 seconds off the pace lmao

    • @sxemontague1
      @sxemontague1 2 года назад +1

      @@CaptJofaz not in one of those? where can i find times of other people for that car? Its no where near as quick as a derestricted F4 car.

  • @MTobin1000
    @MTobin1000 7 лет назад +3

    Tim, what a great experience to drive in a true race car. thanks for taking us along for the ride. Cheers!

  • @joshuathompson6720
    @joshuathompson6720 7 лет назад +16

    Didnt Archie Hamilton just do this and also make a video on it?

    • @ThibauTM
      @ThibauTM 7 лет назад +17

      And a better one in my opinion. Didn't fall asleep during Archie's video

    • @Shmee150
      @Shmee150  7 лет назад +14

      Yup, Archie was also there :)

  • @ArchieHamiltonRacing
    @ArchieHamiltonRacing 7 лет назад +31

    Awesome day mate! Lots of fun 👌🏻👌🏻

    • @alexcritchley9714
      @alexcritchley9714 7 лет назад +9

      Archie Hamilton Racing Archie's vid was so much better

  • @mh9649
    @mh9649 7 лет назад +16

    It's easy without rain. #MaxVerstappen

  • @mikewinburn
    @mikewinburn 7 лет назад +1

    How awesome was this! Looks like you had another memorable experience. Thanks for sharing it with us!

  • @xBris
    @xBris 7 лет назад +4

    0:14 So that's what a clear british sky looks. Always wondered. Quite grey, don't you think? ;)

  • @DTFilmProductions
    @DTFilmProductions 6 лет назад +2

    Those F4 cars redline was about 5k very low and I bet more like 150bhp. Looks restricted.

  • @supercarspotter4726
    @supercarspotter4726 7 лет назад +1

    awsome video as always! keep up the work shmee! :D

  • @iaingales1591
    @iaingales1591 4 года назад

    All the gear and no idea. How does this guy make a living talking about cars? I'm not even mad... I'm impressed!

  • @AutomotiveMike
    @AutomotiveMike 7 лет назад +1

    Though choices! Why not best of both worlds with a BAC Mono?

    • @Shmee150
      @Shmee150  7 лет назад +1

      Oh yes please, great little car

  • @johnnytampocao7671
    @johnnytampocao7671 7 лет назад

    Another great experience Shmee. I enjoyed it.

  • @Bryan-fg3ey
    @Bryan-fg3ey 7 лет назад

    it just shows how a proper race car works,I mean 'only 180 odd bhp' in a road car on that track would be very normal and slow,however chuck it into a car designed to do one thing and bingo you get the feeling for just how low weight,aero and race suspension and race tires come together to be better than the sum of its parts.

  • @StephenButlerOne
    @StephenButlerOne 7 лет назад

    Use to say in the hotel there often when in my early 20s when I use to contract around greater London. Use to love finishing early and just sitting in the stands on open days etc. Always fun.

  • @pol1250
    @pol1250 7 лет назад +22

    This is unwatchable.....

  • @Ezio15352
    @Ezio15352 7 лет назад

    Love your videos Tim! Just an idea for you to hear out, have you thought of getting a camera/actioncam stabelizer? It truly helps when you are giving us a awesome shot of you driving! But all n all, great video! KEEP IT UP :D Cheers!

  • @MpowerRick
    @MpowerRick 7 лет назад +2

    Why aren't you buying a car like that F4 car? Its nice to have and probably you can store it at a track garage or something!

  • @EA40
    @EA40 7 лет назад

    Are those your standards for a clear sky? Lol poor British weather, but a very unique video. Loved it Tim!

  • @EdwardV20
    @EdwardV20 7 лет назад +3

    Maybe get a BAC Mono, or an Ariel Atom, that would be cool as a track weapon ;)

    • @South4153
      @South4153 7 лет назад +5

      Edward Van. so he can drive them at 17mph around the track?

    • @Shmee150
      @Shmee150  7 лет назад +3

      Nope at decent speed as I did last year... Tricky car that BAC ;)

  • @Traumglanz
    @Traumglanz Год назад

    The elevation changes in brands hatch seem to be crazy, that track scares me, it really does, especially the main course, but the smaller Indy lap that we see in this video has a lot of it too.

  • @CCGR-2024
    @CCGR-2024 7 лет назад

    Tim, bet it was a fantastic experience , I wish I was young and healthy and could do stuff like this. Thanks for filming and sharing this, I envy you. That's not saying you don't deserve these experiences or anything like that. I'm saying I envy you but am very glad you film and share this stuff. Thank you.

  • @joelthorogood1727
    @joelthorogood1727 7 лет назад

    Amazing video Tim love your work

  • @statesidesupercars
    @statesidesupercars 7 лет назад +23

    Those Formula 4's seem pathetically slow in a straight line...

    • @Spaffboy
      @Spaffboy 7 лет назад +19

      They are for general public driving experiences, so they are turned down a lot! RPM etc.

    • @lukeburrows6341
      @lukeburrows6341 7 лет назад

      They're still pretty slow in race trim haha

  • @zakattack1120
    @zakattack1120 7 лет назад +9

    So when's the F1 drive happening?

    • @Shmee150
      @Shmee150  7 лет назад +7

      No idea, let's aim to do it next year :D

    • @Sunny-jm7jw
      @Sunny-jm7jw 7 лет назад +9

      Its impossible to drive a F1 car slow, it will just stall.
      with Tim driving like a granny i don't think he will be driving a F1 car any time soon.

    • @easilytriggered3891
      @easilytriggered3891 7 лет назад +3

      True I was just about to say that I remember Hamster stalling the F1 car multiple times and lets be honest Hamster is a way better driver than Shmee

    • @Shmee150
      @Shmee150  7 лет назад +1

      Never say never ;)

    • @T0Mdisstroya
      @T0Mdisstroya 7 лет назад +2

      It doesn't matter what driving skills you have, if you got enough money

  • @diegoramdhani2799
    @diegoramdhani2799 7 лет назад

    Really cool to see a racing driver perspective on Archie's and your (amateur racing) driver perspective here!

  • @xtoxoxgachax3927
    @xtoxoxgachax3927 5 лет назад +2

    I started watching this yesterday it’s 3:08 this bro has to speed up

  • @djr_cars
    @djr_cars 7 лет назад +6

    What on earth is your intro music???

    • @Shmee150
      @Shmee150  7 лет назад +11

      A song someone made for me specifically. It has no name.

    • @djr_cars
      @djr_cars 7 лет назад +2

      But I really like it 😕😁

  • @owenphillips2099
    @owenphillips2099 7 лет назад

    Looks cool Shmee, great video

  • @beyondinsanitybr
    @beyondinsanitybr 7 лет назад +1

    Hey Shmee, when are you coming to Brazil? I had a great time during the F1 race this weekend. You shoulda been here!

    • @Shmee150
      @Shmee150  7 лет назад +3

      Nothing planned at this moment

    • @joaobodybuilder2863
      @joaobodybuilder2863 7 лет назад +1

      Heeeey Brasil is cool

    • @beyondinsanitybr
      @beyondinsanitybr 7 лет назад

      Okay! If you include Brazil in you plans let me know! I can give you a full on tour around here!

  • @aloevera74
    @aloevera74 7 лет назад +1

    Yes yes Tim... you do need to push it just a bit more..... perhaps 10 x more
    But thanks for sharing

  • @jasonandrsen
    @jasonandrsen 7 лет назад

    Some Say, When He Sleeps, He Revs His Vehicles, And That He Always Brings A Bag Full Of Grenades.. Just In Case A Prius Come By.. But All We Know Is...
    *HE'S THE SHMIG!!!!*

  • @d0718
    @d0718 7 лет назад

    I went to do Lotus driving academy after seeing Tim do that and now I guess I have to do this

  • @jumpjimmy
    @jumpjimmy 7 лет назад +10

    Shmee 'shortshift' 150

    • @chazzftw9313
      @chazzftw9313 7 лет назад

      James Edwards I KNOW YEAH 🙄

    • @philbrett1578
      @philbrett1578 7 лет назад +1

      You could hear the shortshift on every gear, but watching the shift lights it's obviously detuned that way for the experience.

  • @stephanstgr874
    @stephanstgr874 7 лет назад

    at six-years at youtube, and right now the formel cars... so when is the time for... the superlicense???? 😱

  • @RetiOrchid58
    @RetiOrchid58 7 лет назад

    How does the straight line acceleration compare in actual figures? Looks fun indeed..I think all track drivers should consider taking cordyceps for their sharpest reaction and concentration..Stay safe and fast.

  • @ruonm
    @ruonm 7 лет назад

    FANTASTIC !

  • @TheCarLovingSwede
    @TheCarLovingSwede 7 лет назад +1

    Have you bought a McLaren BP23? It´s going to increase in value a lot.

    • @Michael-zx5ux
      @Michael-zx5ux 7 лет назад

      You don't just "buy it", you get invited to buy it. I'm not sure if he could buy one even if he got invited because it'll be very expensive. The P14 is more interesting.

    • @TheCarLovingSwede
      @TheCarLovingSwede 7 лет назад

      Maybe he´s got more money than we think ;) and he has had every modern McLaren except the P1 and 650s coupe, so maybe he got an offer to buy one.

  • @philbrett1578
    @philbrett1578 7 лет назад

    I definitely think you need some custom colour/graphics scheme on the helmet Tim, something to go with the custom race suit. I'm thinking some in... blue maybe! 😊

  • @yann9378
    @yann9378 7 лет назад

    nice vid Tim or shmee150

  • @yardelli
    @yardelli 7 лет назад +1

    Wish F1 still raced at Brands.........................

  • @akhilhalgeri6304
    @akhilhalgeri6304 7 лет назад +1

    Do you have to pay
    for riding a formula 4 ?

  • @mwilliams3431
    @mwilliams3431 7 лет назад

    Driving Miss Daisy would have been a better title

  • @CorneliusSneedley
    @CorneliusSneedley 7 лет назад

    I have to wonder, if Archie were driving, for example, how the lap times would compare between the two cars.

  • @jordanemaviwe609
    @jordanemaviwe609 7 лет назад

    Shmee say he has fun driving slowly...really...wow!

  • @bzhln6
    @bzhln6 7 лет назад

    Awesome just awesome. Bucket list, check.

  • @1dulchie113
    @1dulchie113 7 лет назад

    living it up chap,

  • @harryhenderson792
    @harryhenderson792 7 лет назад

    Twin Turbskis on the M4 , but NO bald eagles

  • @petrowolke
    @petrowolke 7 лет назад

    You can see my smile is ridiculous
    - Shmee, 2016, wearing a helmet

    • @Cornwall1888
      @Cornwall1888 7 лет назад

      Petro Wolke he said if you could smart arse lol

  • @charliebesley1543
    @charliebesley1543 7 лет назад

    These F4's aren't the same specification as the BRDC (British) F4's that raced a few years ago. Similar in every way, apart from these f4's have engine limiters and grooved tires on.

  • @netmatrix75
    @netmatrix75 7 лет назад

    Hey Tim. Have you ever reviewed a BAC Mono, Aerial Atom or Zenos before?

    • @Shmee150
      @Shmee150  7 лет назад

      Yes, only not the Atom

  • @ibeunstoppable
    @ibeunstoppable 7 лет назад

    Awesome video! Love BMW! Definitely one of my favorite automakers.

  • @ianng4633
    @ianng4633 2 года назад

    You drove so slowly the tires were colder when they come back to the pit than when you left the pit.

  • @ThemDotcomBoyz
    @ThemDotcomBoyz 7 лет назад

    a go pro 5 would be good for the view, the camera makes it smoother but love this anyways 😁

  • @AnimilesYT
    @AnimilesYT 7 лет назад

    wow. awesome. I know that racetrack. It is one of my least favourite track from Grid Autosport though.. But still awesome that you are able to drive there! :D

  • @FrankDBoyce
    @FrankDBoyce 7 лет назад +1

    Has Shmee passed a car yet in any of his track videos? I mean push it a bit mate.

  • @jamespugh
    @jamespugh 7 лет назад

    great experience for sure. love the f1 cars

  • @easilytriggered3891
    @easilytriggered3891 7 лет назад

    Shmee I really really hope the next video is about the HYPER GT

  • @AnimilesYT
    @AnimilesYT 7 лет назад

    That first corner has killed me so many times in Grid Autosport. But I noticed that there is a huge part of the track missing in real life. Or at least it looks like it.

    • @CairnieR
      @CairnieR 7 лет назад

      That is the Indy layout for Brands, the GP is the longer layout which is what you were driving in the game.

  • @joaobodybuilder2863
    @joaobodybuilder2863 7 лет назад

    Que vídeo bom !!! Muito bonita essas M4 com pintura de corrida

  • @EppingForest304
    @EppingForest304 7 лет назад

    Single seater looks more fun than saloon car

  • @troop73oo
    @troop73oo 7 лет назад

    Well that video definitely did not live up to expectation..

  • @mbal4052
    @mbal4052 7 лет назад

    Shmee, you look a little despondent at 10.00?

  • @nullusfactor
    @nullusfactor 7 лет назад

    So cool Shmee! Your videos entertain me so much. Wish I could do the same things as you do! Regards,

  • @Richz2
    @Richz2 7 лет назад

    The New 'Captain SLOW'

  • @luisnabais
    @luisnabais 7 лет назад +1

    So... now you are copying Archie Hamilton's videos...

    • @Shmee150
      @Shmee150  7 лет назад +3

      Nope we were there on the same day ;) Often you are invited together with other influencers...

  • @jhuh95
    @jhuh95 7 лет назад

    Shows how good Archie Hamilton drives. He was flatout in turn 1 and 4. :)

  • @Jeremy-Rekker
    @Jeremy-Rekker 7 лет назад +1

    what was better the formule E or this?

    • @Jeremy-Rekker
      @Jeremy-Rekker 7 лет назад

      but how expansive is it to buy a F4 or F3 car?

    • @easilytriggered3891
      @easilytriggered3891 7 лет назад +1

      Formula E is gay af

    • @Jeremy-Rekker
      @Jeremy-Rekker 7 лет назад

      Easily Triggered I know but I want to know wich one is faster

  • @matgee8892
    @matgee8892 7 лет назад

    His face does not look nearly as silly as i thought it would in an open face helmet.

  • @leegarrett5765
    @leegarrett5765 6 лет назад

    Shame it’s not on the big track. Would be much better and on slicks.

  • @guilhermecameira2915
    @guilhermecameira2915 7 лет назад

    i think you should buy one and participate in races

  • @duartepires
    @duartepires 7 лет назад

    "the top speed is not necessarily quick in a straight line..." come on man, you were shifting too soon and it looks like not even full throttle...

  • @mohamedyassine4336
    @mohamedyassine4336 7 лет назад

    Ohhh man you was super slow,if Mr JWW was there,we will not take it that easy !

  • @scofair1968
    @scofair1968 7 лет назад

    What's with the odd camera footage Tim! Made me feel queasy

  • @StaticVideos
    @StaticVideos 7 лет назад

    Its like a GrownUp VIP GoKart

  • @laytonsri150
    @laytonsri150 7 лет назад

    Looked like fun :)

  • @ah78dod
    @ah78dod 7 лет назад

    Its actually quite nice Also looks quite comfy!.

  • @JayBryd
    @JayBryd 7 лет назад +2

    O no white BMW shmee don't die

  • @JS106
    @JS106 7 лет назад +1

    Tim, what is your dream car?

    • @richardhurr31
      @richardhurr31 7 лет назад

      MM Animations I'll answer for him. McLaren P1 (probably) but a bit out of his price range.

  • @leliobasket
    @leliobasket 7 лет назад

    shmee were can i buy a jacket like yours from ford ? i just love it

    • @Shmee150
      @Shmee150  7 лет назад +1

      No idea, try the online stores from Ford. I got mine at Le Mans this year.

    • @leliobasket
      @leliobasket 7 лет назад

      Thank you a lot. i will check it . Good luck to you and good luck to your amazing work.

  • @maxmckittrick1321
    @maxmckittrick1321 7 лет назад

    Are u going to goodwood this year?

    • @Shmee150
      @Shmee150  7 лет назад

      Goodwood already happened this year, I will definitely be there next year :)

    • @maxmckittrick1321
      @maxmckittrick1321 7 лет назад

      Shmee150 awesome I'm going to for the first time too.

  • @001mrjam
    @001mrjam 7 лет назад

    Must be scary in that situation especially in those conditions.

  • @neilwillby
    @neilwillby 7 лет назад

    good grief tim ..... could you have gone any slower in the F4 ???? were you rev limited or something ??? maybe 1500rpm haha

  • @sotxsportscards8731
    @sotxsportscards8731 7 лет назад

    Farshad would be horrified lol

  • @carsandchronos
    @carsandchronos 7 лет назад

    Sunny and clear?? You need a new lens filter

  • @finnyfinnsterx2610
    @finnyfinnsterx2610 7 лет назад

    You didn't were a neck brace

  • @HarryTwatter
    @HarryTwatter 7 лет назад

    Why do those f4 cars have road tires? I imagine slicks would improve it dramatically.

    • @MrVoss94
      @MrVoss94 7 лет назад +2

      Wesley Green because these aren't true racing cars. These have been detuned massively to allow the public to try out and have a taste of driving a racing car. Most people going on experience days will not get anywhere near as much grip on racing tyres as they will not push hard enough to make them work, especially in winter. For the sake of the drivers and the driving school, road tyres are a far better idea as the cars aren't as hard to drive, aren't as likely to crash, and they don't need to change wheels and tyres anywhere near as often

    • @HarryTwatter
      @HarryTwatter 7 лет назад

      MrVoss94 thanks for the informative reply, makes sense

    • @MrVoss94
      @MrVoss94 7 лет назад

      Wesley Green no problem. Actually after another look, they look like wets rather than road tyres but the same largely applies. They're probably quite a hard compound it they'd wear out in 3 laps

    • @EdwardV20
      @EdwardV20 7 лет назад

      It won't make that big of a difference for someone who never drove a F4 car before. Those slicks are made to push the most out of the car and is only a big advantage if you know the car. The people who drive these on trackdays have very little experience and it was quite damp on the track. It makes more sense.

    • @martin_in_the_alps
      @martin_in_the_alps 7 лет назад +1

      well, not really. less grippy when cold, louder, harder to steer. Street tyres have a way bigger temperature window, that's why it makes sense to take them. As mentioned rain tyres would wear down in a couple of laps.

  • @Locallybuiltauto
    @Locallybuiltauto Год назад

    It's crazy that these race cars use honda civic LX engines 😂

  • @selw1244
    @selw1244 7 лет назад +1

    WHERES THE ASTON MARTIN????????????!!!!!!

  • @kitefn1
    @kitefn1 4 года назад

    Was u following a SAFTEY car ?

  • @avonbarksdale146
    @avonbarksdale146 5 лет назад

    Make an affordable formula car for the road. $30-$40k range. Cmonnnnnn. Make something different. Formula Ford is $75,000

  • @Vag_T
    @Vag_T 7 лет назад

    Excellent!The power to weight ratio must be very similar of these two cars.The F4 in the hands of an experienced driver must be a lot faster around the track.Do you know how much faster?
    PS.That ugly back box on the F4 is probably taken from...a mondeo hahaha

  • @lxwvandenberg
    @lxwvandenberg 7 лет назад

    those cameras, attached to the f4 car, suck...