Mercedes F1 vs Toyota LMP1: Technical comparison
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Formula 1 and the World Endurance Championship's LMP1 Hybrid class are both at the cutting edge of technology and speed, but how do the best cars from each of these worlds really compare? With the help of our exclusive 3D animations of both cars, Jake Boxall-Legge is your guide for a detailed look at the Mercedes W10 and the Toyota TS050, explaining how they differ both aerodynamically and with the incredibly advanced engine technology that is in use under the skin.
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the differences:
TS050 has doors
AMG W10 doesnt
Or a roof, or a windshield
Or running lights
it is not AMG F1, just F1: AMG is for Mercedes
Don't forget his majesty the windshield wiper
Coz f1 is way more hardcore and skilful if ur not talking bout how much hrs lol
Basically if you drive either you have your team mate to beat to be world champion.
mportusable well in the WEC your team mates drive your car too. It’s a fight between the #8 toyota and the #7 toyota, each have 3 drivers and if either wins Le Mans all 3 are the champions as it’s more about the team in the WEC.
Sounds like you're looking for a same-spec series.......
Hello, this is James
kimi this is Jock, Your teammate cant handle pressure and will probably crash but let him pass anyway.
Unless your Vettel who cracks under pressure!
Really puts into perspective how BIG F1 cars have become.
An F1 car of this time is 18.04 feet, basically it’s longer than a boat
Pls like if you got that reference
much longer than even an S-class Mercedes, wtf?
NO THICCCCCCCC...
@@scotchgod8478 Half a foot longer than a S class sadan
LMP1s are reeeeeeaaaally small tho, look up photos of these next to GTE cars on track, smol bois
Mercedes and Toyota... Germany and Japan... it's a dangerous combination.
Well ... actually the Mercedes F1 Cars come from England. And the Toyota TS050 come from Germany.
I know ... its a strange World xD
Karl S. how?!? Can you explain?!
@@carholic-sz3qv Sure. The Mercedes Team is the old Brawn GP Team. And they are the old BAR Team. And they have all Factorys and Facilitys in England.
So actually only the Money and a few Bosses come from Germany.
And the Toyota was build in Köln Germany. Thats where the old Toyota F1 Cars came from. Köln Germany is the Motorsport Brain from Toyota, and they used their old F1 Facilitys, to build the TS050.
Like i sayed. Strange World.
Karl S. yeah its really strange
imagine a japanese chassis, a german aerodynamics, and an italian engine.. would be a deadly combo
So basically,
One you battle your teammate
One you battle with your teammate
One is 800m sprint
One is marathon
@@B201SGT more like 5k and marathon
One you battle your teammate
One you battle your other teammate with your teammate
@@B201SGT f1 engines have to last 7 races with all the practice sesions .-.
@@carlosjavierramirezolano2872 7 races ?! Is this true ? I stopped to watch F1 long time ago when they could changed engines every race. So I'm not like ready to believe they have to last now 7 races.
anyone else kinda want 1 season with no regulations? just to see where the limits really are for motorsport?
The limits are : unconscious driver due to g forces
Gran Turismo. In real life it won't happen.
At this point the limitation might actually be the drivers.
@@rexsong4835 as I stated
You don't want that, Mercedes would be faster than light.
What would truly have helped is comparative lap times, acceleration times, top speed etc comparisons. I understand that they are different beasts, but I want to know what's faster, easier to drive, differences in materials, construction etc. What does LMP have to do differently to ensure 24 hrs flat out racing?
The aerodynamics piece was interesting, but the rest was essentially facts I could find out elsewhere.
Yes exactly , just reading facts and specs doesn't make for a very good comparison video . Maybe making some comments also on some off track things like bugdet , logistics would have made it better
I believe the Toyota is the easier to drive due to the awd traction, the F1 is the fastest overall
He gave top speed towards the end. The Mercedes is faster, 360km/h vs 330km/h.
2016 6 hrs of COTA fastest lap is at 1:47.052
2016 F1 USA GP fastest lap is at 1:39.877
2018 F1 USA GP fastest lap is at 1:37.392
2019 Indycar Classic fastest lap is at 1:48.895
P.S: Not sure if the 2018 spec LMP are faster than the 2016 spec
An f1 car is, qnd likely will be as long as the sport lasts, the fastest car around a trac in the world, and subsequently one of the hardest cars to drive due to the amount of sheer power in the engine and brakes. Extremely easy to lock up going into corners and even easier to spin out coming out. The drivers are absolutely nuts
Verdict: Both fast af
Also ugly af😃
@@zanebundy280 Have to disagree on that one
@@zanebundy280 Opinion
But F1 a little faster
Only due to the WEC low weight limit.
Wait that Toyota's full length is approx the same as the wheelbase of the merc. Damn these modern day f1 cars are long
For this reason f1 overtakes are impossible
Eudald Guell it’s for multiple reasons. The biggest reason is because of dirty air, not because of the length of the cars.
@@yummyhershey5902
Ok
Stefan Roadman e
Lmp2 are even smaller. You wonder how a person can fit in some of them
Neither the cars used a decade ago were that small.
5500mm total length!
A s-class (W 222) is 5116mm long, the Maybach Version is 5353mm long.
So Lewis Hamilton is racing a car which is longer than a luxury sedan
The long wheel base really helps on the high speed tracks which just happens to be most of them.
I know, it's crazy how big the current f1 cars are
You can see that it is far longer than LMP1 as well
Actually the 2017/8 Mercedes' were around 5700mm from nose/splitter apex to the tail light. To compare it to few everyday use cars, a Ford Fiesta is 4080mm, a Ford Raptor is 5590mm, so 10cm or 4inch shorter than a Mercedes W09 😱😱😱
All thanks to the 2010 regulations of no refueling. The cars had to have so much bigger fuel tank that they just got ridcoulesly big!
Racing Teams: We have a new innovation.
Racing Associations: BANNED !!!!
Racing Teams: But?
Racing Associations: BANNED !!!!
The FIA in a nutshell
Williams: Starts developing a CVT for F1
FIA: Bada bing bada bam, your transmission is _banned_
a total double digit iq take
This aged well
I wonder which year it was when cars were truly allowed to be limited by the creativity of their designers. I get that restrictions are also a driving force for innovation and creativity (and driver safety). But so is competition.
F1 2030: Trains with ten wagons are racing each other.
Tracks are now designed by people with over 10000 hours in Rollercoaster Tycoon 1/2/3 or Planet Coaster.
Sats a dude with an 1850kilo 'Sports car' in his propic😋
The FIA just disqualified your power delivery setup...and you
For starters:
LMP1: has a roof, closed wheels, can race non-stop for 24 hours, easy to repair, can refuel mid-race, has headlights
F1: open wheels, race for 190 miles maximum, quite difficult to repair, has a halo as roof, can't refuel mid-race, no headlights
One is an endurance racer, the other optimised for maximum performance at limited range. Not exactly a difficult difference ro spot.
Lol toyota lost for so long solely on the fact that their lmp1s kept breaking down in the last quarter ish of the race.
Stalker 2016 was a sad year...
@@edgiestofcars right in front of the pitlane
Gte pro:we got an supercar how let's add new rims a new fuel cell in some cases new interior a widebody kit for tyers a wing anything else for downforce and we are done
F1 cars keep getting longer and longer.
and heavier
And wider, and they wonder why is there so lil overtaking at Monaco.
Got a lot to fit under the body.
RSA169 umm there’s been barely any overtaking at monaco for a least 50 years lol.
The merc is as long as a maybach sedan 🤣🤣
It's the first time Alonso has been in the best car in class since 2007!
like Fittipaldi, spent half career driving a pile of junk, but when they have the cars 🤩
Its the only way he can win.
Trance 9 someone forgot 2005 & 2006
@@iamanidiotbut7403 2005: The best car.
2006: The best car in the first half of the season with the Mass Damper, when Renault didn't had the Mass Damper Schumi was raping Alonso.
Not really, in 2012 he had the best car in the season, in fact, Alonso didn't suffer a single DNF by mechanical or engine problems and had an excellent chassis.
Interesting comparison, do more!
I hope the hyper car class will bring something new to WEC. I want to see 24h Le Mans as the race every major car manufacturers wants to win again
hydrogen powered lmps
Toyota, Peugeot , Glickenhaus and Kolles have confirmed an Le Mans (Hypercar) Programme. But once the Lmdh regulations are out more manufacturers will join. Porsche have confirmed interests in the Lmdh category and are currently evaluating an comeback. As an born German, I would like it when Porsche joins. I
@@helmuthoppe633 Aston Martin has also confirmed that they would be participating in leman with the new lmdh cars
i doubt it gent the lmp and group c racers was the ultimate
@@wadegeduldt1106 yeah but those cars mostly looked the same. LMDh promises unique cars like the GT1 era
WTF the F1 Is longer thant MB S-class, BMW Series 7 or Audi A8
angelbeerleader13 longer, but much thinner - less drag.
Modern F1 car is gigantic.
@@AceDeclan F1 cars are wider as well, e.g. 7 series width 1900mm, F1 car width 2000mm
Verdict: both fast
But F1 a little faster
@@filipolofsson well depends in straight wec car is faster in corner F1 is
Impressive tech. I also remember when F1 cars weighed a minimum 500(!)KG, and had unregulated toxic qualifying 'jungle-juice' fuel concoctions, along with qualifying engines and tyres, in 1990-91.
bring back old group c 1000hp cars with over 400 kph in mulsane straight
Jake Heke everything they touch turn to pussies
@@lansiman I hope this thread is just purely for satire.
@Jake Heke Group C ended in 1993. Since 1993, it has become more efficient to build a car with a smaller engine and less horsepower to make more room for aero, because we don't need bigger engines to hit insane speeds and a bigger engine burns more fuel meaning the car has to stop more often to refuel meaning a slower run overall. For road cars that follow the same principle, look at the Ford GT. First, they dropped the old 7 liter NA V8 because a 5.4 liter supercharged V8 was more efficient. Then, they switched to a twin turbo 3.5 liter V6 because the smaller size allowed them to design better aero. Because of the smaller, lighter engine, the new GT can outrun a Hellcat in a straight line, despite having about 70 less horsepower
@Jake Heke Yes, but why have a bigger engine when a smaller one does the job better?
@Jake Heke In the case of a car whose only purpose is to race, "better" means faster overall speed. A smaller, lighter engine allows you to lower the car's overall weight and gives you more space for aero. Like I said before, it also burns less fuel than a bigger engine, meaning fewer fuel stops, raising the car's average speed significantly
Ive always wondered how Aerodynamics compared between the LMP1s and F1s, two completely different looks aesthetically but still achieve such high downforce
LMP1 aero is extremely efficient compared to F1, and is much better suited to close racing.
Look up the battles between Porsche and Audi, and in the corners they don't seem to be bothered much with dirty air.
Though the tactics they used is very different to F1, so on track battles are rare.
Ortekk F1 aero is far, far superior to LMP1 aero though.
@@Tommmmmmmmmmmm F1 cars are definitely more intricate, and produce more downforce. But for efficiency it's nowhere close.
But that's down to regulations, and not to the skill of the designers.
@@Tommmmmmmmmmmm Nope they're not, sorry.
F1'S simplest solution so far would be closing the wheels it seems. It's not gonna remove alot of it, but it would reduce alot of stress and turbulent air on the front tires. Not sure what people would think about F1 cars with closed wheels though. 🤔
5 Sec Penalty for Toyota in Le Mans for not being Mercedes.
Hahaha lol
lol
sennadasilva11 no.. but he isnt Hamilton so yeah a Penalty!
Found the ignorant Vettel fanboy...
5 Second penalty for saying a retarded comments
Verdict: Both speedy bois
Seriously enjoyed this presentation and the visuals were clean and informative.
Have been waiting for a proper side by side comparison for ages. Brilliant.
and people say f1 is too predictable. hopefully the hypercar regs will liven it up a bit
Well, that's a completely different story. WEC LMP1 is predictable because there's no competitors, mostly because of dieselgate. Racing before that was way better and more unpredictable than F1 is/was. F1 is just predictable because one team does a better job and regulations are shit so there's not much action on track even when someone slips up.
I think the Supercar regs will end up like the old GT1 category. Good for a few seasons then die.
@@VaporpireWinkleschmidt Yeh, I am thinking so too sadly.
@@VaporpireWinkleschmidt well, acording to plan, LMH and LMDh are going to last for five seasons, until 2026, the ACO plans to introduce hydrogen cars. So you are not so wrong...
How can the Toyota weighs 888 kg with turbocharged v6, 2 electric motors ,batteries and all the other electrical components its unbelievable
F1 cars are huge....
I quite enjoyed this head to head comparison👍 *KUDOS* from Alabama 👏
1:07 this is a picture from my garage ;)
s u r e b u d d y
Y U W I S H
Or is like comparing 400 m athelet to marathon runner
It's more the comparison of "both are the best in the world" instead of "they do the same thing, but differently".
Sprinting and marathons are two very different things. While both require the same basic concept, one requires the fastest times possible within the rules, while the other is about being the fastest while spreading out your energy over a long distance.
Except F1 cars MUST last 7 races without changes, more than Le Mans
Matteo Tommasi 7 races of 2 hours each. 14 hours of racing with repairs in between. That doesn’t compare to the flat out 24 hours of el mans. And that is just one race of the season.
@@R4M_Tommy Le Mans is only one out of the many races of the World Endurance Championships.
@@haydid It is, but it's not the only 24hr race.
One’s a car, the other’s a spaceship with wheels
If anything this shows how regulated both LeMans and F1 are.
I’d prefer to limit only amount of fuel used and the obligation to publish all technical details 1 year after their first implementation.
That will create more relevance to everyday car technology (focus on maximum performance out of a limited amount of fuel) and it’ll give the fans more insight in the technical aspect of the sport. The publishing will accelerate technical improvements because teams can build on inventions of others. The year gap between implementation and publishing gives teams enough room to benefit from there own developments yet keeps them pressured to keep improving. A novelty will give you (only) a two year advantage.
At the moment F1 is all about managing tire temperature and aerodynamics. Both subject are very hard to comprehend. Even the teams don’t fully understand how to get the tires working for them.
This has been tried before, and it always consistently fail after a few years. No restrictions means rampant spendings to get the faster car, which makes the lower end teams drop out once they see that they no longer stand a chance, and then the series dies.
Restrictions are in place to stop exactly that, and to keep the racing competitive. Yet even then, with as relaxed as the rules are in lmp1 right now, you see that everyone has dropped out due to the ridiculous costs, forcing them to scrap the series and come up with a new one..which is going to be a lot more restrictive.
Excludos
Than maybe there should be restrictions on the aero of the cars too. The Engines can be bought at ‘relatively’ low costs for ‘B’ teams.
Developing better engines especially with fuel restrictions, will help producing better engines for normal cars too.
Formula 1 gave us ABS but that was ‘ruled out’ later on.
@@Conservator. There are restrictions on the aero of the cars. Several books worth of it. Both in lmp1, and especially in F1.
Yes, F1 has given us a lot of innovations, but that doesn't necessarily make for good racing or a good sport. Most of them, like abs, have been banned over the years to keep it interesting. A no restriction sport would be boring, and then it would die due to costs
Excludos
It seems like you favor F2 over F1.
I’m exaggerating a bit for clarity.
@@Conservator. From a pure racing point of view, F2 is miles better than F1 atm. Much due to how every car is practically the same, which leaves only the skills of the drivers left. That's not to say every sport has to be that way, and I certainly don't think F1 should be. However F1 these last few years have been exceedingly boring due to the aerodynamic making overtaking inaccessible, combined with the runaway success of the Mercedes cars that no one is able to compete with.
I am looking forward to the 2021 season where they are going to overhaul the entire rulebook, which further restricts the aerodynamics of the cars so they can much easier follow each other (and move over to using tires that more resembles what road cars use).
Reading spec sheets episode 1
At least this is better than when they try to deliver"analysis"
Difference is Toyota TS050 doesn't have FiA's help
Can you please stop with this? It's just getting ridiculous. I disagree with the penalty too but move on with your life.
Because FIA is helping Mercedes right 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@champagnefinest woooshh
Diddums
Aslamnur Fikri I guess FiA crashed Vettel at hockenhiem too LOL!
Still remembering LMP1 vs F1 engines anyone watching in 2020
4:42 that is actually incorrect the rules last year (2018) were that the drivers weight was included in the final weight of the whole car but now in 2019 they took away that rule so that the final weight discluded the weight of the driver (so the car is the only thing that has to weight no less than 743 kg)
Now:
“And it’s lights out and away we go!”
Soon...: 3...2...ready?
*B O O S T F I R E*
MotoGP, Moto2, Moto3 comparison pls
And SBK, also MansTT.
Its like comparing oranges to pears
Open wheel vs enclosed wheel
If both classes had no restrictions, we'd be seeing low 1:30's around Spa.
Both cars are ridiculous as they currently are, imagine what it would be like without a 300 page restriction manual book on top of them.
Gotta love the engine sound of TS050. =)
The F1 V6 sound has absolutely grown on me. Its now my second favorite right behind the V10.
Same. I love the 2020 V6s
I dont mind the V6 but I still love the V8 and V10
There’s only 1 hybrid entry in the LMP1 class? Did I hear that right?
Yes, Alonso is racing alone
Yea after Audi and Porsche left
Fulcrum lol are there any other teams in LMP1 then?
@@John_smith118
No they are racing alone.
Le Mans is a nightmare from 2018, except in gt class
@@fulcrum2168 Cheated the world with #Dieselgate
I wonder what a F1 car would look like without the current restrictions. Is there a concept like that?
You forgot an important fact about the merc. If it gets overtaken, your opponent gets a critical time penalty. thats quite a feature!
919 Evo is the fastest 😼
5 months later :
2019 F1 cars under regulations seems to be even faster than 919 evo itself 👊🐯
919 Evo is an Unrestricted car in which they remove all the limiters and rules. Then how much more in F1 if its unrestricted? Imagine.
919 evo's laptime in Spa was already beat last year by ferrari and mercedes
@@marinerchris If F1 goes unrestricted we would probably see a lot of G force related injuries to drivers
@@corwynn_
Exactly
@@marinerchris Get Hamilton or Verstappen to take the RBR X201 car around SPA and the Nürburgring. That's what an unrestricted F1 car is like.
The LMP1 looks more badass tho
Now there is an idea... an F1 class at the Le Mans 24hr... That... would be fucking sick...
Interesting comparison. I'd love to see more. Now obviously the tech is kinda related here. But I would also like to see comparison between classes with similar goals. SuperFormula vs F2 for example. Or SuperGT vs DTM (which is probably more about regulations).
DTM and SuperGT are Class 1 now
The Winner of Mônaco and the Winner of Le mans ...
Monaco*
Both cars will have a production, street legal version super car in 2020. AMG Project One and GR Super Sport.
The amg one isn't even close to an f1 car, only the engine
Is 2020 the real year of gr super sport??? Toyota never confirmed it.
Valkyrie and 003 Valhalla are closer interms of aero, chassis and suspension. Which is mostly what F1 is about outside the power-train.
They're both beautiful.
It's a shame P1 couldn't have more success. Like F1, the cars and engineers became too good for their own good.
Id say it was a success. however simply not sustainable considering the cost and value to Manufacturers
I hope F1 wil have a free regulation in terms of engine configuration as long as it's hybrid. So the team could use a various engine confg, could be V6, V4, V8, flat4, flat6, etc. Seems very interesting
Toyota back in F1 would be very nice! Very good video, thx ✌️
Between the Tettre Rouge curve and the first chicane of Mulsanne straight, TS050 reached 350 Km/h (or so) during the qualifying season. During the race, many times reached 338 Km/h.
Toyota is the only hybrid in LMP1
The 919 hybrid: Am I a joke to you?
The only hybrid at the moment and probably until the end of LMP1
The 919 is a retired car. They don't race anymore retired at the end of 2017.
I didn’t realise how close the top speed were. Only 30 kph slower than an F1 car yet 145 KG heavier... can only imagine what speed the LMP car could reach down the Le Mans straight.
Cool video !!
4:38 It’s still odd to see them side by side... the LMP1 _looks_ bigger on tv as it’s more _”car”_ like... 2x5.5 meters is a *_big_* frelling car !!
Ford vs Ferari made me interested in racing, so uh... now I'm here.
How's it been so far
How do you like it ? I am interested in WEC and Le Mans from Ford vs Ferrari as well
Nice Compare but f1 cars are much faster then other cars the aero and the Chassis are another Level
Built for different reasons. The Toyota can go 24 hours flat out and probably even more if needed. F1 cars do 24 hours total throughout most of the entire season of racing (around 12 races or so). Think about that for a moment.
Toyota in F1: Is that Glock?
Mercedes in WEC: Le Mans Airport
‘Mercedes has DRS to overtake competitors one second in front’
Nah, the have the maFia and 5 second penalties.
Awwww a butthurt sour puss ferrari fanboi. Can't handle the fact vettel choked once again under pressure...so sad....SMH
Trance 9 That does not change the fact, that Ham passed on penalty and not on track.
@@Votisx007 it doesn't change the FACT that vettel choked under pressure and lost the race because of himself....not the first time nor the last either.
Trance 9 You are beside the point of my original comment
Trance 9 And it was just a joke anyways and you are attacking me without any context
0:39 Ahhhh, Sebring. My home away from Home. So glad I was there for the WEC race last year :)
The Audi diesel days were astonishing!
They hardly had any competition though.
@@aosorea Bloody Nissan? I can tell you don't know what you're talking about, Nissan mostly raced to show off their zero emissions and pulled out after a few laps... The Bentley was literally an Audi with a Bentley livery and Toyota and Porsche were only competition to Audi for about three years.
@@aosorea Toyota came back in what? 2012? Count one year of trial and error, that means they were only effective from 2013 on, Audi retired in 2016 that means Toyota was competition to Audi only for 3 years, one of which they won the endurance championship. Porsche only fought Audi for 2 years (2015-16). Those are simple maths my friend, not rocket science.
You seem pretty butthurt, posting three times, sometimes with insults just because I said Nissan was no competition to Audi and that for most of the time Audi did not have competition. It's like saying Toyota has competition from privateer LMP1 cars, it simply isn't true.
@@aosorea Except Audi didn't win in 2016. Porsche did. Audi won with Toyota as credible competition for three years, the argument was about Audi winning, not Audi competing. You're trying too hard.
Porsche is still better.
the porsche 919 hybrid beat the mercedes F1 track record at monza like 1:41 to 1:42. give me the days of road racing of the 80s through 2000 with toyota eagles, 956s, 962s, 787b, jag v12s, ferarri 333sp, etc.
Would love to see these two on a 20-lap sprint around Spa.
That Toyota wouldn't stand a chance...
Kay Reezy unfortunately not. What I’d like to see is the Merc competing in Le Mans, it would be the fastest car out there but even Mercedes would probably struggle to get the car to last anywhere near 24 hours.
@@98MTBiker If it would last 12 hours it would be a miracle
@@98MTBiker it's not made to last 24h in one race
aller Of course not, but Mercedes has shown exceptional reliability. Also most F1 races are very hot but the nighttime at Le Mans is slightly cooler and it would help the reliability.
Images f1 cars with Le mans cars at le mans that would be sick
Calling the toyota a 'favorite' for Lemans implying there's an actual competition. There isn't. They basically only race themselves.
Rommel F 😂 podium for showing up
awesome visuals and explanations. subbed
Did you say Toyota is the best?
*laughs in Porsche and Audi*
bruh wtf is those gay piece of crap euro cars ofc toyota is the best
(sarcasm and liking toyota at the same place)
The Germans won and ran away to leave the Japanese alone so yes Toyota has now become, by far, the best team in endurance.
@@catm4403 what if the japanese is actually better than the germans
@Fire Heart ummm yeh
@Fire Heart Audi (Germany) won until 2014.
Porsche (Germany) won 2015-2017.
At that time, Toyota was also participating, but Toyota couldn't win.
After 2016, Audi pull out from World Endurance Championships (including Le Mans) and after 2017 Porsche did the same.
They decided to turn their focus to Formula E.
After that, Toyota finally won in 2018-2019.
That's why some people strongly believed that Toyota could only won Le Mans or WEC because Audi and Porsche didn't participate in the championships anymore.
I love watching F1, but I got near limitless respect for these endurance cars, making a machine that can go full out for 24 hours straight is no small challenge.
@DESTROY white supremacy BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY its not about PU only. I bet suspensions, brakes, chasis and tyres wont last the stints of an LMP1 car...and 6 F1 races are only 12 hours....
@DESTROY white supremacy BY ANY MEANS NECESSARYF1 races last 2 hours at least not 1 so 6 races of 2 hours each are...Le mans also have practices, who cover day and night and a 2 session qualy who is defined by using the best time of the drivers of the car (tree drivers each), not only the race so they last even more than 24h, the tyres in lmp1 are harder, the F1 wont last tree laps without entering to the pits to change, the lmp1 last eleven per stint depending on the car, also the race is 24h straight without rest. A weekend in F1 have at least 2h between practice 1 and 2 and then one day to practice 3 and 2 more hours to qualy, then another day to race. More than enough to make repairs and change parts...and no i dont think f1 suspensions or brakes endure 24h straight...and a chasis made for sprint wont last 24h non stop without some kind of resentment..
why am i watching this ? i don't even know how to drive
if road congestion is not a problem, Lmp1 road legal production version would be awesome
Who said that mercedes goes 360 kph?
But they probably have that potential.
DRS+maximum ERS deployment+OT mode+Lando's scenario 7+a nice lonely straight= easy 360. I mean Perez' top speed was a quite respectable 350 at Monza last year. Vettel also managed to get up to 365 on race day but was short lived. (Slipstream power lol)
Well Rebellion this year and SMP last reached 350kmh in le mans. Making them the faster lmp1 cars on straight.
Nice comparison video 👍
You forgot one thing Merc has- FIA.
Very funny. Ferrari has control over FIA, remember?
Jokes on you man
A shut it tool, both Ferrari and Mercedes have large stake in F1 FIA for ages now. Quit bitching.
The Flintstones car is the most sophisticated ever.
Would be amazing to see Toyota back in F1. Better still with Alonso.
LMAO...Alonso is a joke. We don't want him back in F1. He wore out his welcome. Porsche would be better for F1 then Toyota. Toyota failed miserably when they tried F1 last time.
@@trance9158 Did I say amazing? I meant shocking.
really enjoyed this comparison video. Good content.
F1 needs Toyota ,to
improve the show
They had the biggest budget in Formula One and were proud to say there had like 60 nationality inside their team, a great recipe for uber disaster and this is what happened.
What they would need is a real Japanese team onboard and I don't think it's ever gonna happen.
merçi pour La comparaison de La f1 De proto des 24 heures.Bonne vision.bravo super bye.du mans sarthe72👍👍au TOP.sympa!
Kinda sad that every single competitor had to leave in order for Toyota to win a world championship title.
Pfff... Toyota was allready faster, and now they found reliability, they gonna dominate anyway. Even Rebellion and SMP made faster qualy times than the Porsche and Audi. And porsche retired becsuse didn't want equivalence of tecnology rules. Only audi retires because of dieselgate...
f1 is fast cornering and fast acceleration and deceleration, le mans is reliable and consistency. two very different things. both are restricted to their regulations.
I think the F1 car would not last an entire 24hrs race
Think? They for sure won't.
Maybe if they drive Max 120km/h
Well, it's not made to last an entire 24h race
The LMP1 cars are monsters, even more when they are not restricted by rules, when they took the porche 919 and made it as fast as possible with no boundaries, it was even faster than a f1 car
Can you please stop calling it “weck?” Thanks.
i wanna see a f1 season with just these rules
1. no computer assist
2. if your driver dies in the race you're banned for 2 years.
Computer assists are banned for like 20 years lol
Loved the LMP1 Cars! especially the black and white TVR Racing Rebellion, saw it race at Silverstone and it's a pity these cars have gone now. As for F1 I have found it boring for many years I prefer the GT3 World Challenge.
Pisses me off how he calls it *wheck*
IT'S W-E-C GODDAMMIT
@LeTang Piola isn't bad.
WEC -> Weck
F1 -> Fwan
f1 ferrari sf90 vs mercedes w10 comparison plzzzzzzz
Easy ... Ferrari Race Engineer, "Merc is faster than you.... Merc is faster than you, please confirm."
One is a drag car, the other is a well balanced F1 car.
Closed wheels are always faster than open wheels aerodynamically
Faster on a straight line? Yes. Faster around corners? No.
funfact: both were better 20 years back.
Interesting and useful comparison. However, please use common units or convert when making comparisons, we heard ps, bhp, mega joules, kWh.
Nonsens comparison. The Toyota is made to drive 24 hour non stop. A F1 car is made voor +-300km races.
Its like compare a marathon runner with Usain Bolt.
The efficient engines of this year need to live up to seven weekends to not get a penalty. That is well over 3000km that the engine has to live
Comparing their different characteristics objectively without stating that one is better than the other isn’t non sense at all it’s just interesting to see how different cars built for different purposes work differently
F1 engines need to last 7 race weekends including 3 practice sessions and qualifying....
Runtime:
F1: 3K
P1: 5.4K
WEC is longer and under significantly more stress. F1 shorter and stress is different to that on FIA.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks stresses on an F1 engine are arguably higher... Circa 750bhp from a 1.6ltr vs 500bhp from a 2.4ltr
I always thought the LMP1 cars are much bigger than F1 cars. The fact that it is actually the other way around is really mind blowing. I can't imagine LMP1 cars lapping Monaco and yet F1 cars which are much longer and wider doing it every years.
I thought the same but last year I visited Porsche’s museum in Stuttgart and I was surprised how small Porsche 919 LMP1 car was. Also Mercedes W10 is super long.
WEC - fun
F1 - boring, repetitive, controlled by team FIA-Mercedes
We should also have a more free engine selection a cars should be lighter.
P1 isn't much fun these days either. For similar reasons as F1.
@@filippoforni6781 There should
be multiple select configurations. Not this nonsense were Mercedes and Ferrari can rule the roost and whip everyone into touch.
FYI WEC is under FIA as well.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks That actually wouldn't solve anything because whatever the most effective configuration is those 2 would find it and then continue to shit on the rest of the field anyways.
Can't say that was the most riveting video...