Dancing Wings Stearman PT-17 RC Plane Maiden Flight
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- Опубликовано: 23 янв 2023
- Check out the maiden flight of this Dancing Wings Stearman PT-17 from @BitgoHobby
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Wow, that was a handful. Nice job John and Dave. Being from western Kansas, I have to deal with wind gusts about every flight I take. Using the throttle when landing is just about the only thing you can do when the plane wants to float on you. Great flymanship gentlemen!
Thanks Bill. I think with a little work this plane will fly well.
Thank you🙂
I have this plane and fly it on a 4000 to 5000 mah 6S battery and it flies very scale like. I do think it could use a larger motor though. I bought this plane over a year ago from bitgo hobby and it took close to 40 hours to build because of poor fitting parts and other things. I received the plane with a defective ESC and contacted Bitgo by phone and email multiple times and received no response whatsoever. I ended up having to purchase a new ESC myself, which left a bad taste in my mouth about the company. I also modified the landing gear with coil springs instead of gas shocks, and it lands 100% better. The plane flies quite well with a 6S battery and I did not have the issues you were having possibly because of the weight on the nose. I have learned a lot from your videos about open TX and Edge TX and I think your videos are very well done. Thanks for all the work you put into your videos and good luck with this plane.
Hi Tim, Just for the sake of others who might stop reading after your comment: You were flying a different plane. This is not an apples to apples comparison. Yes?
Nice review, John and Dave. It is such a pretty plane but it looks like a hand full to be sure. Looking forward to future videos. Thanks
Yeah thank you it'll be a while but we'll do another flight on it , it should fly much better than that .
Thanks Tony. It was a little bit of a handful but I believe it's all addressable and should be a nice flier with a little TLC.
Nice video and good review. 👍
Thanks Tom, appreciate that.
A little note. I checked several plans for PT17 steerman's they all have the CD located On the top wing perpendicular to the leading edge of the bottom wing with the airplane on a level position that means the Manual is recommending a way tail heavy CG don't know why. We'll fix that and do another maiden, I think the plane deserves Another shot. it will be a great airplane.
ssv3---just sayin'
Ssv3🤔😵💫
sunnysky v3--'da whip
I notice that the 1400mm instruction manual uses the same images that are in the1600mm manual. The images are all in the white fuse/yellow wing livery. They might have just used the 1600mm manual print file to make updates to as they went. And, somebody missed the CG change?
Also, in the 1400mm Stearman, you have an option to not use the larger 37g servos that come with the kit and go with the smaller 17g servos in both the wings and the fuse. Those larger servos weigh a ton and they're well back from CG. It would take quite a bit of nose weight just to compensate for that.
She's a beauty though. Nice build! I love the colors.
I just finished a dancing wings Cub. I bought the kit motor and all but used a eflite commander motor and better servos. I should have gobs of power. I weigh sub 1400grams and the commander is 2000 grams. This is twice the motor that came with the cub. Hopefully I haven't over done the power. I'll maiden it if we ever get a decent day around here!
Great video brother man.. thanks!!
Thanks for watching. Glad you found it useful. :)
It could be that the manufacturer got the wing incident’s wrong. The bottom should be zero to the stab, the top should have a little positive so it stalls first.
@RCVideoReviews Thanks , I read other manual for biplane where specific upper wing. This manual not specific exactly which wing. The motor and ESC are not cooling , do you resolving this problem?
Cooling requires ventilation, so make some holes in that beauty plate and make 2x the holes in the fuselage for egress.
Good ‘ol emax
Love me some Emax.
Does the 1400mm version come with the flaperon feature? I see the 1600mm does
Not that I recall.
I know this video was nine months ago, but was there any resolution with the CG on this plane? I just purchased this plane. Thanks
No. I sent it home with Dave and he sold it.
It is possible that this plane will fly differently because it is smaller. Also my experience with the Bitgo company might not be the norm. I really like mine a lot and it gets many compliments. When I posted this comment I didn’t realize that this plane was smaller. Either way, I think it is a great plane and people won’t be disappointed if they purchase one.
I'm confident this plane will fly well with the CG set correctly. The motor is just not powerful enough.
When I set my CG on mine to the manual it flew tail heavy. I moved the battery forward a couple inches and it made a big difference. All is well now. 😊
@@timmiller3815 What size battery did you use? Did you have to add weights along with the battery? How much weight? Where did you put the weight? Did you use the supplied motor?
When you setup CG on biplane , do you assembled upper wing too? Do you setup CG on 110mm by manual?
I believe the upper wing.
@@RCVideoReviews Thanks , I read other manual for biplane where specific upper wing. This manual not specific exactly which wing. The motor and ESC are not cooling , do you resolving this problem?
Hi , I bought PT 17 from Pichler company. It is the same model but I think your is better build. I have a bit not straight the rudder . What a motor you used? Is assembly on a airport complicated because two wings?
I used the stock motor. It was a 2817 900kv.
Hello, do you have any idea with what incidence of wings it is flying ?
Sorry, I don't...
Actually when I purchased it the size was 1600mm. I noticed this one is slightly smaller
Maybe your initial comment should be revised so as not to be considered a direct comparison....?
did u paint 🎨 it grey? I thought it used to be white.
oh,, They have Grey and White
I think the white one is bigger..?
It seemed very underpowered and tail heavy all the way through both flights, as witnessed from the extreme porpoising and touchy elevator inputs. A bit more forward CG with a bigger battery (2600-3300mah) and some expo should have that thing flying like a dream.
I think you're spot on. That's what I recommended as well.
Hello 👋.
Hello 👋
You answered my question from the last video, That is NOT enough motor. With all the other problems, not a value at half the price.
I wasn't thrilled with the motor. They need something more beefy than that. BUT, I've been spending a lot of time in 3D lately--so I'm probably a little biased. I do think it should be able to do loops and rolls, and hammerheads though, and I didn't feel it with this motor.
@@RCVideoReviews I am with you 100% Flying scale cause u do not have much choice is boring and lack of power is less safe.
FWIW I provided feedback to the vendor and suggested they do something about the power situation on this plane.
Do you think a Turnigy 3542-1000 would provide enough oomph? What are you thinking of swapping out with? The 1600mm Stearman is really not that much bigger and uses a TomCat G60 5030-KV420. It uses (4) of those incredibly heavy 37g servos and from what I've seen, it flies well on a 6S. @@RCVideoReviews
Yeah that is a very pretty plane .the maiden was a heart attack, that is probably the worst made I have ever had, The 2nd flight looked much more stable on the pitch axes with the Cg more forward. but it still needs more Work. I will be checking the geometry on the wings Because they could've gotten twisted in the Box , The incidents on the wings of a biplane is very critical. it's like driving a car that's completely out of alignment .never know just gotta look at it all over. every little tweak we'll help. it should fly very good we'll see.
You did a great job with it Dave. I'll be interested to fly it again after you spend some time working on it.
@@RCVideoReviews We'll do we'll find tune it it'll take a little while but we'll do that .by the way I was curious and look for videos of that airplane, everybody has the same problem, the pitchiness the CG is wrong by the book.
This thing has been reviewed over and over, and the same results every time?
I don't know about any other reviews--only this one. I try not to watch reviews on other channels until after I've seen it first hand in an effort to avoid skewing my POV.
@@RCVideoReviews wasn’t implying your review was skewed, I have great respect for you and your channel. Mediocre construction, missing parts , underpowered. Great review.
The plane is a beautiful plane very well made somehow they did get the CG placement wrong . Once people are aware of this if they place the CG in the correct place the maiden flight will be a dream. the plane will fly very good I'm pretty sure. we'll try to prove that soon, have a good one.
No no, I got that part. I was just informing you I wasn't sure what other channels showed that's all....appreciate the clarification. My reply wasn't meant to be a dig.
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why so erratic, cg?
Minimally. I would add a heavier (more powerful) motor, move the CG forward and try again.
The assembly manual has the wrong information for CG. With the proper CG this plane will fly very very well .we'll see🙂
@@RCVideoReviews And, your motor of choice will be..?
Really seems underpowered and tail heavy. I just bought this one from hobbyking, but I’m gonna just go ahead and run it 6s in it and go easy on the throttle. I’m sure it will do much better with the extra weight of a 4000 6s shoved up front. Watched the dancing wings vids on this and the 64” se5a and they were pathetic and very underpowered. China factory is not recommending the right setups at all. those factory guys can barely even fly the things lol. I’m gonna run 6s 4000 on the se5a (64”) with a 400kv 17” prop and a 500kv 15” prop on the steerman. Nexa same thing those power recommendations are pretty weak. Like the nexa grasshopper clearly needs more power than 770 on 4s. It’s much better to have that power and just be gentle on the throttle.
I agree, the power level is definitely on the low end. Some guys actually prefer the 'scale feel'. I'm usually apprehensive about PnP power performance.