Need an Intel CPU containing replacement for my aging Synology DS916+ (Plex transcoding), but uGreen still not on sale in UK (only Germany & US). Don’t want to import (support, taxes, etc) but would buy if on sale in UK. No I don’t want Synology’s only (aged design) Intel 4 bay NAS (423+) - embarrassing offering for 2024, but then they’ve drunk the corporate cool-aid and seem hypnotised by that market!
I wanted a Ugreen NAS. Missed the Kickstarter and it is not for sale in the UK yet. I have given up waiting and bought a Flashstor 6 when it was on sale for ~£350 last month. Not offering these NAS's worldwide was a massive fail for Ugreen!
Ugreen is reputable- The Kickstarter price was great but the scheme had potential to be a rug pull. Now the pricing is too high considering other options. I would consider it if there were some hardware revisions..
What capacity Exos drives? I have a DXP8800 Plus as well and it works well with Plex IMO. I’m using a mix of drives. WD Red (CMR) 16TB (four) and 14TB (three). Although I just bought a 20TB and plan to buy another 20TB. Eventually I’ll standardize on all 20TB drives.
@@jodajackson4489I thought these NAS units required one size drives? Or is that because you are using another OS? Sorry i am a newbie and still learning about NAS units
@@adrianjenkins2447 RAID can mix and match, but you will limit the capacity to the size of the smallest drive. Example: five 4TB drives, and one 6TB drive the RAID will treat the 6TB drive as a 4TB drive.
Taking it all in, it just seems like they are crawling before they walk. UG will undoubtedly flesh out the missing bits over time. From what you've said, these machines seem to have a lot of promise. I just hope that the shortcomings don't poison the well with people thinking that the evolution as ceased here.
I could not buy the Kickstarter offer, due the limited offer to only US and Germany. Now, the SSD version price is insanely high (compared with the Kickstarter) and still not available in my country (while UGreen offers other products). I got the Flashstor 6.
Whats a better deal??? The AOOSTAR WTR PRO AMD Ryzen 7 5825u for 400 USD or the UGREEN NASync DXP4800 Plus for 560 USD? Mostly docker services, image backup and plex server.
Currently UGreen NAS models are on offer stateside. Over $100 off depending on model. Personally I don’t think anything beats the Kickstarter price and while it still a decent product at retail price there are other options with similar hardware now. TerraMaster has a number of models using the Core i5 1235U and Core i7 1255U. The F6-424 Max and F4-424 Max are noteworthy options. I have the DXP8800 Plus (Kickstarter) and I am reasonably pleased with it.
I have never owned a NAS and have been using portable SSD HDD. I don't get the vibe that there is a perfect product out there for me yet. At a risk to loosing my files I think I will wait for a high Tb storage solution utilising SSD's in a small form factor. That does not exist yet.
got the Aoostar WTR Pro AMD instead...changed out the wifi card with m2 key adaptor. running the OS from that slot on 2230 nvme. 2 free nvme bays + 4 hdd bays. Wonder Ugreen can even sell these at that price.
The larger units have USB-4 connectivity. Can this be used to connect a mac directly to use as a ‘DAS’ or is it only network connections for accessing shared files?
Would you go the normal DXP4800 or the Plus version? Whats the real perfomance increase of the plus version? I have yet to find content that helps give data to make this decision. I know the plus has a cpu with 1 more core... but what does that mean to performance. The plus also has a 10gb ethernet port... but i would not even benifit from that at current. My main use case scenario is plex media sever with up to 4 concurrent users and just general personal file and photo storage backup for my family.
I'd like to know how well this Ugreen NAS works with TrueNAS scale and other OS's; is there driver support for the 10G ethernet NICs? ...the Thunderbolt 4 ports? ...included in a standard OS install, or do I have to hunt for drivers and tweak some things? (I know I'd have to make a few BIOS changes.) Seems like the hardware specs are great but I'd almost prefer they didn't try to reinvent the wheel with their own OS. There's plenty of more evolved (and free) options out there to use, but do they work well? Is there any downside to just using TrueNAS or ProxMox (or even Windows) on an additional SSD? (and set BIOS to ignoring the built in SSD to preserve warranty and the option to use UGOS). I know it's possible to install other OS's because I watched your other video, but is there any downside to going that route?
I have the DXP8800 plus and have installed proxmox to boot from one of the nvmes and wanted to virtualise Truenas under proxmox.SATA Controller passthrough (it has two) works only for the first 4 bays but not the last 4 bays. Until now I don’t see any solution other than passing the individual HDDs of the last 4bays to have the 8 bays showing under Truenas
I have 2 6bay units and have a question. I am happy with the hardware and true there are for sure problems with the software and tech helps very much. I want to connect a UPS to protect units on power failure, is there a way that I can connect 2 units to shut down smoothly or do I have to buy 2 UPS units?
Why 2 UPS? . You can connect both to a single (but sufficient) UPS Then select SNMP option ( this requires that your UPS must be equipped with Network Management Card)
@@IamShopping I bought a QNAP TS464 on a 2nd hand site which included the 10gbe/2NVME card, the other week. I replaced the SSDs with something a lil bit larger (P3+4TB) and have my flac files stored on them for music streaming. A bit overkill possibly but……. So yes i love the idea of a NAS having 1/2 NVME drives for cache duties, and another 2 (or 4 on larger units) for specific files such as photos/videos for current projects…
Wish they can provide option for buy hardware only and cut of the price for their still not perfect software Going to buy terramaster F8 as they now discount 100GBP again , or another cwwk pocket nas / p8 x86 but some user reported cwwk have nvme issue where my first unit is fine (lucky)
Thanks for raising this. It's not in the original recording and wondering if it's an issue related to a specific frame rate/Res, or happening during the RUclips processing. Raised a query about it. Apologies for the technical blip regardless
Just find a Chinese student to help you. Almost all Chinese students have to buy things from China to live better in the UK. Because the cost of living in Europe is too high. There are many forwarding companies in China that can transport Chinese products to the UK cheaply and efficiently. I calculated that it costs about 280 pounds to get a 4800 plus. I am a Chinese living in Canada. I bought one from China. The total cost is about 500 Canadian dollars, but it costs 980 Canadian dollars in Canada.
Do I have to though? I mean, these are all "in use" devices. Surely it's better they have some miles on the clock and some dust on the dash, rather than shiny and unused. That said, I definitely could have run a cloth over it for the vid...
I’m so tempted to pick up a ugreen NAS but having no previous NAS experience I’m hesitant. Synology sounds like the way to go at the moment but would like to see better hardware on their 5 bay drive.
@@timh3365sounds nice until you see that Ugreen is mostly copying Synology UI... Ugreen with officially working DSM onboard would be a bomb. Or I hope Ugreen will get it to proper software lvl in 5-10 years (although everybody knows that long term support and keeping software up to date is main problem for all new Nas developers - not proper hardware). Nowadays if you want/need NAS it's still better go with Qnap/Synology. If you need capable home server - Intel based mini PC or Chinese Xhuanang motherboard with custom case is your choice in conjunction with Linux server, proxmox or whatever. Ugreen working officially with software developers like Truenas (just as example) also could be a potential bomb instead of "inventing a wheel" as it was mentioned in comments above...
"Better hardware for what?" is the question I usually asking. The only downside for Synology is their 1Gb network speed which is easily bypassed by USB network adapters for 2.5 or 5Gbit (god bless Github). Otherwise Its hard to understand what exactly ppl want from NAS. It's not a server for proper virtualization, but 920+ easily do all what I need (like mediaserver/backup/cloud like photo synchronisation/vital documentation synchronisation with versioning/several containers in docker/snapshot replication/aggregating couple cloud services etc, etc, etc) All these are "eating" maby 10% of it's hardware capabilities with exception for transcoding which need more resources, but still easily achieved with present hardware... so just interested - do ppl realize why they need powerful hardware for NAS (except advertisers telling them bullsh...t) or they just not clever enough and ask from NAS tasks wich must be handled by completely other class devices like servers.
no, you shouldn't buy these: 1. Their OS is crap even after some big updates 2. If you ditch their OS and install your own 3rd party OS, there are other bare metal NAS or DIY options much cheaper
UGREEN hardware + Synology DSM = The NAS Synology should have built. I hope UGREEN becomes popular because Synology needs to serious competition...
Easy to say "build software like Sinology" lol
Need an Intel CPU containing replacement for my aging Synology DS916+ (Plex transcoding), but uGreen still not on sale in UK (only Germany & US). Don’t want to import (support, taxes, etc) but would buy if on sale in UK. No I don’t want Synology’s only (aged design) Intel 4 bay NAS (423+) - embarrassing offering for 2024, but then they’ve drunk the corporate cool-aid and seem hypnotised by that market!
I wanted a Ugreen NAS. Missed the Kickstarter and it is not for sale in the UK yet. I have given up waiting and bought a Flashstor 6 when it was on sale for ~£350 last month. Not offering these NAS's worldwide was a massive fail for Ugreen!
Ugreen is reputable- The Kickstarter price was great but the scheme had potential to be a rug pull. Now the pricing is too high considering other options. I would consider it if there were some hardware revisions..
Used das diskless plus m4 pro mini plus hdd be an idea lol
Got a dxp8800 pro - using with TrueNAS EE + Intel A310 + 8 Exos HDD + 96GB RAM - and (for me) is the perfect plex server
Their hardware was great ,really great
What capacity Exos drives? I have a DXP8800 Plus as well and it works well with Plex IMO. I’m using a mix of drives. WD Red (CMR) 16TB (four) and 14TB (three). Although I just bought a 20TB and plan to buy another 20TB. Eventually I’ll standardize on all 20TB drives.
@@jodajackson4489I thought these NAS units required one size drives? Or is that because you are using another OS? Sorry i am a newbie and still learning about NAS units
@jodajackson4489 16TB for now, but I start buying 20TB to make an upgrade
@@adrianjenkins2447 RAID can mix and match, but you will limit the capacity to the size of the smallest drive. Example: five 4TB drives, and one 6TB drive the RAID will treat the 6TB drive as a 4TB drive.
Taking it all in, it just seems like they are crawling before they walk. UG will undoubtedly flesh out the missing bits over time. From what you've said, these machines seem to have a lot of promise. I just hope that the shortcomings don't poison the well with people thinking that the evolution as ceased here.
I could not buy the Kickstarter offer, due the limited offer to only US and Germany. Now, the SSD version price is insanely high (compared with the Kickstarter) and still not available in my country (while UGreen offers other products). I got the Flashstor 6.
for me annoying part is that firmware updates mess up my configuration like SSH keys and configs otherwise I am quite happy.
Whats a better deal???
The AOOSTAR WTR PRO AMD Ryzen 7 5825u for 400 USD or the UGREEN NASync DXP4800 Plus for 560 USD? Mostly docker services, image backup and plex server.
Currently UGreen NAS models are on offer stateside. Over $100 off depending on model. Personally I don’t think anything beats the Kickstarter price and while it still a decent product at retail price there are other options with similar hardware now. TerraMaster has a number of models using the Core i5 1235U and Core i7 1255U. The F6-424 Max and F4-424 Max are noteworthy options. I have the DXP8800 Plus (Kickstarter) and I am reasonably pleased with it.
Agree about the availability, lost out on sale from me as couldn’t make a purchase in UK so ended up get the Terramaster F6-242 Max instead.
I have never owned a NAS and have been using portable SSD HDD. I don't get the vibe that there is a perfect product out there for me yet. At a risk to loosing my files I think I will wait for a high Tb storage solution utilising SSD's in a small form factor. That does not exist yet.
when i saw you jumpur, my mind read as "i hate seagate" lol
got the Aoostar WTR Pro AMD instead...changed out the wifi card with m2 key adaptor. running the OS from that slot on 2230 nvme. 2 free nvme bays + 4 hdd bays.
Wonder Ugreen can even sell these at that price.
Greetings .. is direct attached ( DAS ) from PC or Mac via thunderbolt supported ?
The last update bricked SMB discovery no idea when they'll fix it
The larger units have USB-4 connectivity. Can this be used to connect a mac directly to use as a ‘DAS’ or is it only network connections for accessing shared files?
Does not work yet - could theoretically become a thing in the future but other brands except for qnap have failed in this area
Would you go the normal DXP4800 or the Plus version? Whats the real perfomance increase of the plus version?
I have yet to find content that helps give data to make this decision. I know the plus has a cpu with 1 more core... but what does that mean to performance. The plus also has a 10gb ethernet port... but i would not even benifit from that at current.
My main use case scenario is plex media sever with up to 4 concurrent users and just general personal file and photo storage backup for my family.
I would buy if for sale in the UK.. I'm holding out to be honest but how long for now I dunno😊
Short answer: no, wait for AOOSTAR WTR PRO AMD Ryzen 7 5825u 4 Bay Nas Mini PC（Pre-sale, shipping between December 13-16) $399.95 Barebones.
I'd like to know how well this Ugreen NAS works with TrueNAS scale and other OS's; is there driver support for the 10G ethernet NICs? ...the Thunderbolt 4 ports? ...included in a standard OS install, or do I have to hunt for drivers and tweak some things? (I know I'd have to make a few BIOS changes.) Seems like the hardware specs are great but I'd almost prefer they didn't try to reinvent the wheel with their own OS. There's plenty of more evolved (and free) options out there to use, but do they work well? Is there any downside to just using TrueNAS or ProxMox (or even Windows) on an additional SSD? (and set BIOS to ignoring the built in SSD to preserve warranty and the option to use UGOS). I know it's possible to install other OS's because I watched your other video, but is there any downside to going that route?
I have the DXP8800 plus and have installed proxmox to boot from one of the nvmes and wanted to virtualise Truenas under proxmox.SATA Controller passthrough (it has two) works only for the first 4 bays but not the last 4 bays. Until now I don’t see any solution other than passing the individual HDDs of the last 4bays to have the 8 bays showing under Truenas
319$ for a 2 bay is wild
I just wish it had ECC memory.
I have 2 6bay units and have a question. I am happy with the hardware and true there are for sure problems with the software and tech helps very much. I want to connect a UPS to protect units on power failure, is there a way that I can connect 2 units to shut down smoothly or do I have to buy 2 UPS units?
Why 2 UPS? . You can connect both to a single (but sufficient) UPS Then select SNMP option ( this requires that your UPS must be equipped with Network Management Card)
It's a pity Ugreen didn't add a PCIe card slot to DXP4800 Plus. Ugreen should have followed QNAP in this regard and should have added the slot.
@@IamShopping I bought a QNAP TS464 on a 2nd hand site which included the 10gbe/2NVME card, the other week. I replaced the SSDs with something a lil bit larger (P3+4TB) and have my flac files stored on them for music streaming. A bit overkill possibly but……. So yes i love the idea of a NAS having 1/2 NVME drives for cache duties, and another 2 (or 4 on larger units) for specific files such as photos/videos for current projects…
Wish they can provide option for buy hardware only and cut of the price for their still not perfect software
Going to buy terramaster F8 as they now discount 100GBP again , or another cwwk pocket nas / p8 x86 but some user reported cwwk have nvme issue where my first unit is fine (lucky)
觉得贵可以从中国买，4800plus只要不到300美元。
Can you put an alternate OS on one of these?
可以，而且不影响质保
Can't buy it in oce.
Is there a way to configure shared folders level snapshots with ugreens os. I watched many reviews and there is no word on the matter anywhere.
@NASCompares
Why is there flashing in the video?
Thanks for raising this. It's not in the original recording and wondering if it's an issue related to a specific frame rate/Res, or happening during the RUclips processing. Raised a query about it. Apologies for the technical blip regardless
@@nascompares no worries, just wanted to make sure it wasn't just me. Great video otherwise
I didnt realise we could import it here to the uk
Just find a Chinese student to help you. Almost all Chinese students have to buy things from China to live better in the UK. Because the cost of living in Europe is too high. There are many forwarding companies in China that can transport Chinese products to the UK cheaply and efficiently. I calculated that it costs about 280 pounds to get a 4800 plus. I am a Chinese living in Canada. I bought one from China. The total cost is about 500 Canadian dollars, but it costs 980 Canadian dollars in Canada.
@ if you find any in the UK let me know
@@timh3365 If I find someone like that in the UK i'll be happy
6 bay nas only worth 650 dollars no matter what pc parts they put in ; nothing in there is worth 1200 or 1500 diskless
You should dust your stuff before filming. :)
Do I have to though? I mean, these are all "in use" devices. Surely it's better they have some miles on the clock and some dust on the dash, rather than shiny and unused. That said, I definitely could have run a cloth over it for the vid...
Just checked the import fees and crazy to uk from Amazon
Find a Chinese student to help you buy a 4800 plus from China, the total cost will not exceed £280.
@@timh3365 I must do that. My guess in Jan they'll announce a new one
I’m so tempted to pick up a ugreen NAS but having no previous NAS experience I’m hesitant. Synology sounds like the way to go at the moment but would like to see better hardware on their 5 bay drive.
If you have never used NAS, your best choice is UGREEN, not Synology, because UGREEN is simpler and Synology requires some experience.
@@timh3365sounds nice until you see that Ugreen is mostly copying Synology UI...
Ugreen with officially working DSM onboard would be a bomb. Or I hope Ugreen will get it to proper software lvl in 5-10 years (although everybody knows that long term support and keeping software up to date is main problem for all new Nas developers - not proper hardware).
Nowadays if you want/need NAS it's still better go with Qnap/Synology. If you need capable home server - Intel based mini PC or Chinese Xhuanang motherboard with custom case is your choice in conjunction with Linux server, proxmox or whatever.
Ugreen working officially with software developers like Truenas (just as example) also could be a potential bomb instead of "inventing a wheel" as it was mentioned in comments above...
"Better hardware for what?" is the question I usually asking. The only downside for Synology is their 1Gb network speed which is easily bypassed by USB network adapters for 2.5 or 5Gbit (god bless Github). Otherwise Its hard to understand what exactly ppl want from NAS. It's not a server for proper virtualization, but 920+ easily do all what I need (like mediaserver/backup/cloud like photo synchronisation/vital documentation synchronisation with versioning/several containers in docker/snapshot replication/aggregating couple cloud services etc, etc, etc) All these are "eating" maby 10% of it's hardware capabilities with exception for transcoding which need more resources, but still easily achieved with present hardware... so just interested - do ppl realize why they need powerful hardware for NAS (except advertisers telling them bullsh...t) or they just not clever enough and ask from NAS tasks wich must be handled by completely other class devices like servers.
no, you shouldn't buy these:
1. Their OS is crap even after some big updates
2. If you ditch their OS and install your own 3rd party OS, there are other bare metal NAS or DIY options much cheaper
可以安装fnos，免费的。不影响质保。
What are these other bare metal NAS?
Like what?
to expensive in uk
NI + income tax + VAT feels like a triple combo hit , plus cost of living + electricity and gas price hike 😢
在中国只需要240英镑，找个中国留学生让他帮你转运到中国，总成本最多280英镑。
Chinese NAS are a non-starter for me. Cannot trust them never ever.