Knife Maker's Friday Five #16: Honing and Stropping
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- In this video knife maker Walter Sorrells discusses sharpening knives, including both honing and stropping. Four keys to sharpening!
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Of all the stupid reality shows I've seen on my downtime. I don't know why the history channel hasn't found you and made an awesome show. Thank you for all the free wisdom/Professional tips.
They sortove did (he was on forged in fire)
yah thank you soo much!
Good job, , I have a knife sharpening business, and I have found 3 things that determine the angle that a blade should be sharpened at. 1) the kind of metal that the blade is made of.
Most any blade can be sharpened, but will not hold an edge unless made of high quality steel.
2) the hardness of the metal.
The small included angle of a strieght razor will not hold up if made of a soft metal.
3) what the blade is going to be used for.
A softer metal blade with a larger included angle will work fine for chopping vegetables.
When ( grinding ) the grit puts scratches in the surface of the metal. The scratches on one side do not align with the scratches on other side. So that makes teeth in the edge. ( get out your microscope ) ..
Those teeth are fragile.
So I use a finer grit to make the teeth smaller.
And smaller, ect, ect.
Now I use a leather belt on my belt sander,,, And the magic is,,,, GREEN JEWELERS ROUGE,
green is the color code for , hard stainless and crome.
If two mirror faces meet at the edge, you should have a razor's edge.
And without the teeth to bend over and break off, the edge should hold up longer.
I don't stop my process until I can shave.
(preaching to the choir)
"Sometimes I carry a knife that's that sharp, but sometimes I don't and I don't go around feeling bad about it....anyway" - Walter Sorrells (Genius)
Thanks Walter, I always appreciate being able to learn via your experience and tutorials.
No nonsense explanation about honing and stropping. Looking forward for more common sense info from Mr. Sorrells.
Hello Walter, you inspired me to actually sharpen up my "crowbar" kitchen knives. Using your technique of moving the knife edge from handle to tip across the stone vs along it. Also not using a worn out "extra fine" diamond DMT block. Tomato's and fingers are now very scared.
Thank you - no more crowbars
ayyy got here before the title of the video
I like yours friday five videos. You always give me good ideas to think about. Thank you.
thanks for coming back to basics
I have found that if I don't let my knife get really dull all I need to do is strop it. I strop after each use for one 1-3 minutes and it is sharp again, especially convex grinds. For small nicks in the edge I use a sharpening steel, then strop it. Using a stone is the last option for me, but I do enjoy sharpening on a stone. Thanks for the info. Good stuff.
i seen the episode of forged in fire u was on n it sux ur blade failed but no ones perfect n ur my favorite knife maker I knw u can be a champion of forged in fire hope u get the chance to do it again
Well explained. Thank you. Love the vids keep em coming
Much respect and thank you! great video...subscribed!
There's also "power stropping" where you use a leather belt on the belt grinder or sander.
I call the removal of edge material sharpening, the next level honing, and the last level polishing or stropping
Great information for everybody, thanks!
Thanks Walter
I can't wait
If I missed it sorry but are you ever going to talk about your go on forged in fire?
Peter Ferguson he's spoken about it before
Yeah, I do mean to do a video about the technical side of the show. Just haven't gotten around to it...
Walter Sorrells can u make me a knife please i work outside and not having a knife is like well being less of a man here in west va lk
I bought a 1000/6000 grit Whetstone. Some videos call the 6000 a polishing stone and I'm confused. Do I use it just like a normal whetstone or do I do it like the opposite direction like you said?
have you used a leather belt on the 2x72 i use one and its super fast
Walter.....I've enjoyed your videos for over a year now, just about the time I began trying to make some knives. I'm retired now and have lots of time to spend at it. My question is as I'm putting the BEVEL on the blade, how thin should I make the cutting edge?? The width of a dime.....more narrow.....not that thin????
I'm using my 2 x72 belt grinder to sharpen my knives. What grit belt should I start with ?? What progression of grit should I go up to in order to obtain a final edge???
I hope you will please answer these questions, as I value your opinion very much. I thank you in advance for your help. rex
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Hey Walter I'm looking forward to your sharpening video.. I'm a knife sharpener and I know there's plenty ways of skinning a cat. But I'm looking forward to yours.
Caleb Green I always get scratched. Mean kitties.
Skinning a cat actually refers to whipping with a cat-of-nine-tails. It's an old term with troubled beginnings. Though I'm sure there are many ways to skin a house cat as well, if you happened to be sick in the head
heyyyyy, that's pretty good.
Walter, suggestion. Can you add a blurb about knife steels? Thanks.
Got a whole video on the subject.
Oops, not steel used for knives, those round things kept in the kitchen with a handle on them. Used for burnishing/sharpening. Sometimes referred to honing steels. Hahaha. I'll try to be more clear next time.
DeanO or jdavis8888 make,or in jdavis's case,made,Amazing sharpening and honing videos.Search youtube for them if your new to sharpening or are curious.
How thick is that piece of leather you have in your video? Where can I get a piece like that?
he bought it on eBay, he has a video on how he made a strope and says were he got the leather
The word is sharp!!!
I sure wish Walter was my next door neighbor.
Walter off hand do you know of an inexpensive, real looking fake ivory for making scales?
shadowninja81500 can't afford real ivory, but the phenolic material on that site is what I'm looking for. Thanks!
You may want to take a peek at current ivory trade laws.
@John Ratko search Tagua Nut on Amazon and elsewhere. Has the same look and hardness as ivory. It's become the general replacement for ivory in jewelry.
Danny Beeson wow, it looks incredible! Big thanks!
can you use sandpaper
Swiss CheeZe wet or dry sand paper comes in very fine grits. there is also one coated with jeweler's rouge . which, if the backing is smooth enough, will polish well.
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What about using sandpaper by hand
You can do it, but sandpaper is expensive. 3-4 times is ok but more than that i would recommend you to get a stone.
oh ok thats makes a lot of since thanks do you know where to get a stone thoutgh
Wire edge = False edge ???
You need a Tormek
I save the shaving for a straight razor. I have yet to find anyone with a knife edge as sharp as one of my straight razors. I personally don't see any reason to get a knife that sharp in the first place. 1000 grit edge cuts good enough for my carry knives.
Remember sharpness is made up of at least three main factors. 1) is it apexed, 2) the level of finish on the blade, 3) geometry.
You wont find a blade with the geometry of a straight razor as it is too thin but you can take it to as high a finish. It won't be as sharp because the geometry of the knife is thicker. But as for finishes. Some knives do need/benifit from a highly polished push cutting edge. For example woodworking tools knives, some Japanese kitchen knives, racing axes and I am sure there are more.
So they are some reasons to get one that sharp.
Personally I don't go that sharp because I don't really use those things. I tend not to really go above 1200 on an eze-lap diamond plate. I love that edge. Sometimes I even go a lot lower depends on the task an knife.
Hope that was interesting.
I completely agree. Now my kitchen knive I do take to a 3000 grit just because I love to cook and want that keen edge. But I also repofiled the edge to a 15 degree angle so I can cut across the grain of a skirt steak like warm butter. Most people even self proclaimed knife people don't understand all of this.
Well I wouldn't call me a knife person. I just wanted to learn how to sharpen. Got sucked into the rabit hole, found one of Walter's videos and am not experimenting making knives What have I done O_O
But I love sharpening theory and there is so much to learn and try. Also when you say 3000 grit do you mean Japanese water stone grit or another system?
Yes Japanese water stones. I used to use Arkansas stones but found Japanese water stones when I started using a straight razor and found them much faster than the Arkansas stones. Now they stay in the garage I use them for my wood chisels and turning tools.
The sharpening wheel must turn away from you to be safe. If turning toward you the blade may ‘catch’ and be thrown at you. Very dangerous.
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no accidentally cutting off your finger. :(
Free advice #1: Do not shoot videos in a bathroom.
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