Tamron 24mm F2.8 M1:2 Review: Part 2 | 4K

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @Celestialrob
    @Celestialrob 4 года назад +5

    I have the 24GM but watched your review. As always, objective, accurate and very watchable. You’ve become the benchmark.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      Glad to hear it.

    • @albertanderson3885
      @albertanderson3885 4 года назад +1

      @@DustinAbbottTWI It continuous to vex me how many reviewers like him fail to mention that post correction for distortion is not a free lunch. Post correction for distortion as bad as on this lens will cost edge pixels and a significant loss of fidelity.

    • @videodrome5
      @videodrome5 4 года назад +1

      Yes these are the benchmark of lens videos. Some of the best on youtube!

  • @gitithadani
    @gitithadani 4 года назад +8

    Thanks for the review which along with other reviews made me buy the lens. Finally lenses are being developed that are lightweight yet have great optical quality and work for the lighter mirrorless bodies. Unlike the trend of heavy very fast and very expensive lenses - some even being more expensive than the camera bodies. In terms of the prime 24mm the main asset is that of the macro possibilities and great detail in a lightweight form factor. Given the improvement in light sensitivity in sensor design for certain kinds of wide angle imaging one needs better detail & more DOF. The macro range makes the lens more flexible - particularly for detail-design, texture& perspective work (whether exterior or interior). In contrast to using zoom lenses one now has the possibility of small lightweight primes. The 24mm appears to be slightly wider than my other 24mms and on the R4 one can get a crop range of excellent detailed images that would give a F.O.V of close to 40mm. Combined with the samyang 45/1.8 the mid focal range is covered. Hence far greater ergonomy - a factor that is extremely important in lens selection. Ergonomy determines how much and how one uses a lens. Initially the click AF sound did slightly bother me but after a day of usage its hardly present. The still AF for macro & in even in some low light situations was by and large very accurate. DMF fine tuning works well so no complaints there. Barrel distorsion is severe but easily corrected and I consider software processing part of the craft of digital imaging. Where I was pleasantly surprised is the detail - be it at the macro or the infinite end. And I would not be surprised if this level of detail does not match lenses that are far more expensive and heavier. Eventually the more this line of lenses develop the more improvement one will see for all kinds of imaging needs.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      I'm glad you are enjoying the lens. It is very strong optically for the money.

    • @gitithadani
      @gitithadani 4 года назад +1

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks - I have been following you since almost the advent of the mirrorless revolution (eos-m days) and I have gained a tremendous insight into modern lens technology thanks to your nuanced and objective lens testing which complements my own usage-testing of several 100s of vintage lenses. In terms of the 24mm fl the tamron has the lowest MFD that I know of (even the earlier sigma 1.8 macro lens had 0.18). In terms of native sony lenses the zeiss batis 25 has 0.2 so the tamron is giving a unique optical range that for certain kinds of work that I do is very useful. When I first used the high resolution a7r it did not have either sensor stabilization or high level ISO performance. Fast lenses had then much more additional value in terms of light intake - apart from the shallow depth of field - mainly for portrait look. Now with the R4 with 5 & a half stops of stabilization & a much better ISO performance + new processor the light intake context is very different. Yesterday I was in the national musuem in Delhi which thankfully they are upgrading & have made beautiful arched frames with intricate design on their borders - same on the ceilings - in some of their displays. Then there are sculptures - paintings with incredible detail. With the tamron lens I was able to get fine close up & far detail - handheld and I was able to work in a more complex way with the framing & possible perspectives of the space. Then the lens is weather & dust sealed so it is giving tremendous utility as well as value. This is not to say that fast lenses do not have their use value and camera companies do have to make money for the R&D that we are receiving. It is only that lens design too should evolve ergonomically, open up new kinds of imaging and work in conjunction with the improving cameras.

  • @Xetenor
    @Xetenor 4 года назад +2

    Wonderful review Dustin. I actually went to my favorite camera store and got to play with tamron 20/24/35. I was actually pleased with the 20mm IQ and being super light. I did a similar test to the zoom 17-28 and found the primes to just resolve better in the corners. These tamrons make me miss my tamron 35 1.8 VC lens I had on my nikon so I most likely will pick 1 or 2 up (thinking 20mm as I really love that focal length). What a good time to be a photographer with so many more options now compared to a year ago!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      So true. So many great options.

    • @albertanderson3885
      @albertanderson3885 4 года назад

      It continuous to vex me how many reviewers like him fail to mention that post correction for distortion is not a free lunch. Post correction for distortion as bad as on this lens will cost edge pixels and a significant loss of fidelity.

    • @Xetenor
      @Xetenor 4 года назад

      @@albertanderson3885 Yup. The distortion on the 20mm is absolutely insane. Dustin did talk about that in his 20mm review. Tamron failed with that one. The 24/35 are much better. Yet after seeing just how much of the image you loose after correction which still is visible even at infinity i lost interest in all the tamron primes and went with a voigtlander 21mm nokton 1.4. Brilliant lens in so many ways. Now sony is coming out with a 20mm 1.8 G 😁👍 It's funny how their own 17-28 2.8 is better in almost every way.

  • @gibsonsg4100
    @gibsonsg4100 3 года назад +2

    I got a Samyang 18 2.8 today and I like it, but I definitively want a Tamron too, for its weather seal and macro capabilities. I don't know which is better for me, 20 or 24? I think 24 mm makes more sens now that I have Samyang 18mm, but I am afraid that after corrections it can be 26 mm? So in that case is better to go with 20 mm. What do you think?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад +2

      I would go with the 24mm to compliment your 18mm. I found the Tamron lenses extra wide and so that they are 24mm after correction.

  • @setaside2
    @setaside2 4 года назад +2

    I have enjoyed shooting both the 35mm and the 24mm, thus far. Since I'm not the video guy for Tamron, the sound doesn't bother me :) the image quality, though, has been excellent with the 35mm being even better than the 24mm, in my opinion... And I think the 24, for the price, is actually pretty special. I just received my 20mm, today... And that is the model I'm most excited for. If it runs with the other two, optically, I think we're in for a treat.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +4

      They are definitely optically sound, and I too am most excited about the 20mm as the aperture value at 20mm is not as significant. I love the Zeiss Loxia 21mm F2.8 (though I don't own it), and if Tamron can deliver something somewhat similar for $1000 less...well...

  • @MarkusSenior
    @MarkusSenior 4 года назад +3

    Amazing 2 part review Dustin. Very detailed and helpful. Love my 24mm copy. I tested it against the Sony 24mm 1.4 GM and I am impressed with what you get for your money with the Tamron. Would you mind if I link from my video to yours? I think it could be interesting for my viewers to check out your review.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      Sure. I'll check your video out, too, as that would be interesting.

    • @MarkusSenior
      @MarkusSenior 4 года назад

      Cool, thanks. I just added a link to your reviews on my videos’ description page as well as added a card for you.
      Cheers from LA.

  • @AYAYEET
    @AYAYEET 4 года назад +2

    Great two part Video series. Going to pick one up, thanks!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      Enjoy. It's a solid little lens.

    • @albertanderson3885
      @albertanderson3885 4 года назад

      It continuous to vex me how many reviewers like him fail to mention that post correction for distortion is not a free lunch. Post correction for distortion as bad as on this lens will cost edge pixels and a significant loss of fidelity.

  • @Lauren_C
    @Lauren_C 3 года назад +1

    Ill be getting this lens soon for my Sony A7C. While the F2.8 isn’t super exciting, the pinch Macro capability, small size (easy to toss in a bag), and sharpness make it appealing.

  • @bostryxplacatus2148
    @bostryxplacatus2148 4 года назад +2

    Hi Dustin,
    great review as always, thanks!
    It's interesting because the new Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 DG DN Art has also a very good macro capability. Especially at the wide end. The minimum focusing distance at 24 mm is 18 cm (magnification ratio 1:2.9) vs. 12 cm on the Tamron 24 mm. (magnification ratio 1:2).
    The new Sigma 24-70mm for Sony seems also a good choice for that.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      I would love for lensmakers to "crack the code" that would allow for better magnification on more lenses. It's such a useful tool.

    • @Xetenor
      @Xetenor 4 года назад +1

      I too think that better magnifications on more lenses just make them so much more fun to use. I recently aquired the sony 135 1.8 GM lens and because of its close focus ability I am taking picture of things I never did before at 135mm. Dual purpose, double the fun! :)

  • @s0medudeuknow
    @s0medudeuknow 3 года назад +1

    Hey, great review!
    How does this lens compares to the Sigma 24mm/f1.4? I want to use this lens for hiking, landscape, timelapse and the best thing about Tamron will be the weight. Is the image quality of Sigma that much better so that I would want to choose it over Tamron despite the weight? Let's consider money not a problem.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад +1

      That depends on how you are shooting. It sounds like for many of your applications you would be shooting at smaller apertures, and, if that is the case, the IQ difference would be minimal at most. Also, the Tamron's close focus abilities could be a useful addition while out hiking to get close to something interesting and get a macro-like shot. Sounds like a good fit for you.

    • @s0medudeuknow
      @s0medudeuknow 3 года назад

      I plan on doing some night shots and timelapse too, but if i underastand correctly 1.4 might not be that sharp to shoot the stars. 2.8 will be just enough considering sharpness and light. Is that correct?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад +1

      The Sigma has to stopped down to eliminate coma, so I don't see it having a big advantage for the night sky.

    • @s0medudeuknow
      @s0medudeuknow 3 года назад

      Thank you for the answers! Keep up the good work!

  • @TheDIYFilmmaker
    @TheDIYFilmmaker 4 года назад +1

    Hi Dustin, you image in the minute 13 is really sharp. I love it. What lens did you use for that shot?

  • @LessTalkMoreDelicious
    @LessTalkMoreDelicious 4 года назад +6

    Such amazing IQ... just wish they used the much better and truly silent RXD drive. 🤷‍♂️
    So, I returned it and went back to the much quieter Samyang AF 24mm.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I agree on the focus motor.

    • @Ra-Hul-K
      @Ra-Hul-K 4 года назад +1

      hi.. how is the IQ on the samyang when compared to the tamron.. on the first part of this video I saw someone's comment saying IQ on the tamron is lot better than the samyang.. im confused now (planing to buy a 24 mm samyang or tamron)

    • @LessTalkMoreDelicious
      @LessTalkMoreDelicious 4 года назад +3

      @@Ra-Hul-K I made a video and compared the 2.
      Summary:
      Tamron has super good IQ compared to Samyang; but is also super noisy, sketchy and archaic AF technology.
      Samyang has very good, confident, fast and very quiet AF; but IQ isn't as good (less contrast and a lot of flare). But, Samyang's IQ is still decent and much better than cheap "kit lenses."

    • @Ra-Hul-K
      @Ra-Hul-K 4 года назад +1

      @@LessTalkMoreDelicious i'll check out your video 👍🏼

  • @GaryJahman
    @GaryJahman 4 года назад +2

    Thanks again for your review Dustin!

  • @JackieSemple
    @JackieSemple 4 года назад

    I'm interested in purchasing this lens in spite of the fact that I currently have the Tamron17-28/2.8. There is obvious duplication in this idea but the MTF charts for both lenses at 24mm makes the prime a clear performance winner and there is the 'macro' facility. I've always liked the 24mm primes and probably will do so here. I think it's a case of versatility (offered by the 17-28) versus the higher performance of the prime and its compact size and weight, making it easy to pack/carry in the bag. Normally I shoot with primes unless versatility is required. Spoiled by choice but I like it! Any thoughts on this prime v the 17-28 zoom conundrum?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      I actually cover that in this review along with an optical comparison.

    • @JackieSemple
      @JackieSemple 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI - Yes I did see that but thought I might elicit more. No worries. Thanks.

  • @TVe200
    @TVe200 4 года назад +1

    I am looking forward to your test of the 20 mm when Tamron release it.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I too find that the most interesting of the three in theory.

  • @daveperrin9408
    @daveperrin9408 3 года назад +1

    For the money I think this Len's is amazing. Yes it don't have all the bells and whistles on it but if you want that then you are going to pay the higher price. I think Tamron have done a fantastic job of thinking about the photographer on a budget plus the idea that each of their lenses have 67mm filter thread which again is saving us money by only having one set of filter's. Your not going to get the best features that more expensive lenses have because that's the whole idea to be able to give a photographer on a budget the chance to add more gear to his setup. Plus it's not just about the gear it's about how good the photographer is. Great review Dustin. And well done Tamron for thinking about photographer's on a budget.

  • @scottroberts3131
    @scottroberts3131 4 года назад

    Dustin. I'm intrigued by the macro in regards to unique people shots. I bought the 28f2 used for $350 for my son to use on an a6000 and for my walkabout wide for a7riii. Which would you choose between these two. I do need good af to catch kids. I already have the 28-75 tamron and some longer primes. Thanks for your time and I enjoy how you RUclips!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I don't know the 28mm F2 well enough. This is a very good lens optically, though.

  • @Creative-ik5xm
    @Creative-ik5xm 3 года назад

    Thank you for your review! Question: how is this lens when manual focusing? Is it okay or a complete nightmare? I do a lot of landscapes night photography and I just use manual focus. Please give me your thoughts regarding that. Thanks.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад +1

      It's okay. The focus ring is nothing special, but there's nothing particularly offensive about it, either.

  • @SuperDigitalMe
    @SuperDigitalMe 4 года назад +1

    Is it good enough for a A7RIV? Thats the camera i have... (also a A6600)

  • @adrianfaulkner1353
    @adrianfaulkner1353 4 года назад

    Thanks Dustin for another great review, for me personally another strength of these primes is the small form factor, i now tend to stay away from the big lenses in favour of a nice small compact travel friendly lenses, although the Tamron zooms are appealing I still find a small prime even more appealing, i just hope when I get the 24mm that the slowish focusing doesn't become an issue, thanks again for making such superb content.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      You'll have to report back to me and tell me how you find the focus speed. I completely agree on the beauty of small, sharp lenses. If you travel or carry multiple lenses, it can make up such a difference.

    • @gitithadani
      @gitithadani 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI It makes a huge difference. I took the samyang 45/1.8 along with some other primes - excellent results

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      @@gitithadani I love that little Samyang 45mm. It's a great little lens.

  • @lintennant7109
    @lintennant7109 3 года назад

    I'm hoping to pick up a Sony a7iii with Sony 24-105mm f4 lens tomorrow. Budget won't allow for an expensive 2nd lense but I need something wide and relatively fast for astrophotography..Would you recommend this as a 2nd lens?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад

      This is the cheapest option. A better option if your budget is slightly more is the brand new Samyang AF 24mm F1.8

  • @the_viper_leo
    @the_viper_leo 4 года назад

    I stumbled upon your video since there are not many of these reviews out now - great review btw, clear and concise! :) Have been very keen to get an affordable prime and think these line ups might be perfect. Currently shooting in a 7iii 24 - 105 G, but thinking I of getting a much lighter set up so I can take it around more often without thinking twice (I have a mobility issue that makes walking difficult).
    I mainly shoot landscape/street/city photography at 24mm and 105mm, the latter for separation and bokeh effect with the compression to make up for the 4.0f. About 28% of my photos are between 24mm-28mm (20% at 24mm). 21% between 30mm-40mm (10% between 33mm-37mm). I was thinking of getting the 20mm as I've not got that focal length. What do you think of that and might that be too wide for?
    Cheers, Dustin!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      It sounds like these would be a good fit for you. The 20mm isn't out yet, but should come soon. And no, I don't think you'll find the 20mm too wide for your purposes. It's a great focal length.

    • @the_viper_leo
      @the_viper_leo 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Brill! Are you planning to do a review on all three of them next to each other? Just saw the release of your vid on 35 1.8 - that was also on my mind. Looking forward to learn something about it.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I won't have all three at the same time because of the delay on the 20mm. I'm about to send the 24 and 35mm lenses back to Tamron, and expect to get the 20mm shortly from them.

    • @the_viper_leo
      @the_viper_leo 4 года назад

      Dustin Abbott ahh fair enough! Guess I’ll have to just compare across your videos

  • @gitithadani
    @gitithadani 4 года назад

    How is the lens for detailed intricate architecture for the a7r4. I am looking for a lightweight travel lens that can give good detail between an aperture of 5.6 to 11. What is interesting about the lens is also its macro possibilities. It makes it a versatile lens & if it is good for architecture & landscape then it could be a useful lens to have. Thanks

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +2

      I don't have an RIV on hand with now, but on an RIII the images are nicely detailed. I don't see it being a problem.

    • @gitithadani
      @gitithadani 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks

  • @vikmanphotography7984
    @vikmanphotography7984 4 года назад +1

    Minor correction 9:00 : shooting in a cropped format technically does not change the macro magnification. While the definitions of macro photography are somewhat outdated (from film cameras) admittedly, a 1:1 macro would have to cover a full frame sensor with a 24mm x 36mm (real life) image while an APS-C would have to fill it's frame with a 15.6mm x 23.5mm (real life) image.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +3

      You are citing a technicality that obfuscates the reality. In reality, the frame will be much more filled on an APS-C than on a FF sensor, and trying to explain that away because of the vagaries of sensor differences only confuses people. Is the subject going to appear much more magnified if you are using an APS-C camera? The answer is yes (I've checked!)

  • @itzik_levi
    @itzik_levi 4 года назад

    Is the camera lens good for taking a video with a RODE microphone?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      Mounted on camera? I would think in most environments, yes. A completely quiet one with a lot of focusing going on you might pick up some sound.

  • @mrbaiser4133
    @mrbaiser4133 4 года назад

    How does the image quality compare to the FE 24-105?

  • @sagittariusalba2851
    @sagittariusalba2851 3 года назад

    Great as always, many thanks! 👌

  • @vpr5562
    @vpr5562 3 года назад

    I am selling the GM and will get this one for the close focus @ 24 mm, strange isnt it?

  • @acouragefann
    @acouragefann 2 года назад

    With a price drop to 199$/€ which seems to be the new normal for it, this really is amazing value for money for a small, weather sealed, semi-macro landscape lens when you're on the go.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  2 года назад

      It does offer great value for money despite the limitations I detail.

  • @DebashisDeySnewz
    @DebashisDeySnewz 4 года назад

    How does this compare to the Sony 28mm F 2 lens?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      I haven't tested the Sony 28mm, unfortunately.

    • @drewwolin3162
      @drewwolin3162 2 года назад

      I own both. I love this 24mm. Sharper and smoother.

  • @paganmin1214
    @paganmin1214 3 года назад

    Does this lens good for astrograpghy milkyway sir?

  • @JeffSpeers
    @JeffSpeers 4 года назад

    Any word on these being available for the Canon RF mount?

    • @JeffSpeers
      @JeffSpeers 4 года назад

      SwitchRich I’m not to sure about that. Tamron is still actively releasing Canon and other manufacturer compatible lenses. Just nothing yet for the RF mount. I also don’t think that it would be a conspiracy against Canon’s RF mount system.

    • @vikmanphotography7984
      @vikmanphotography7984 4 года назад

      @@JeffSpeers I absolutely believe that Tamron will release Canon RF lenses within the next 2 years BUT I highly doubt that the current Sony/Tamron lens will be directly related. With the aforementioned Sony/Tamron relationship, I suspect that Tamron will develop lenses for other systems independently.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      Not yet, though it's obviously much simpler to convert existing mirrorless lenses to a new mirrorless mount. Samyang seems to be starting that process with their FE lenses (I've got the AF 14mm F2.8 in an RF mount in hand right now)

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      I don't think that relationship is relevant to releasing in other mounts (I've never gotten that impression from any Tamron execs).

  • @Hsukhaybir
    @Hsukhaybir 2 года назад

    I wanted a temporary lens that’s good and not expensive so I just bought this for 199$ .. this is the lowest price I’ve found for FE E mount camera

  • @albertanderson3885
    @albertanderson3885 4 года назад +1

    It continuous to vex me how many reviewers like yourself fail to mention that post correction for distortion is not a free lunch. Post correction for distortion as bad as on this lens will cost edge pixels and a significant loss of fidelity. Any particular reason you fail to mention this?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +3

      With all due respect, distortion is not "bad" on this lens (well within the range of normal for the focal length), and I thoroughly detail the nature of that correction and show how much correction it required. I think your "vexing" is misplaced here.

    • @albertanderson3885
      @albertanderson3885 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI With respect Dustin that’s an answer to a remark I didn’t make! I’m not disputing you pointed out the lens exhibits distortion; my point was that post correction has its costs that will be unacceptable to some. To be exact After correction and cropping the 24 MP image of an a7II has only 20.5 MP, which is a loss of about 15% in resolution. If that can’t be described as bad for a prime the word has lost its meaning.
      Thank you kindly for taking the time to reply it is appreciated.

  • @JimBailey
    @JimBailey 4 года назад

    Thank you Mr Abbott

  • @m_w_TR
    @m_w_TR 2 года назад

    Heyyy.. Ich habe dieses Objektiv für 140€ über die Amazon-Aktion gekauft :)) preis/Leistung Toll 👍🏻