Why I Love The D6 System
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If one thinks about it, The One Ring is essentially a reimagining of the D6 system, with the d12 replacing the Wild Die. Which might explain why I love TOR so much. I'm working on making my own D6 game at the moment. Maybe one day I'll actually finish it! Great video, subscribed.
D6 is really a great system because it is very simple yet very deep at the same time and incredibly versatile. I don't know of another game like it really and I don't understand why it isn't more popular. The only thing I didn't like about it was the fact that I couldn't find a good magic system, but I was able to cobble a pretty decent one together myself.
Have you seen the "Simpler Magic System for Mini Six"? forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/mini-six-simpler-magic-system.531361/
I know what you mean about the Magic Systems in the various D6 games. They all seem a bit convoluted or wonky. Each version of the game does it differently, and none do it well.
For me, Mini-6 Bare Bones (which is free) has one of the easiest, but also poorly done magic systems. Magic needs to be an extra perk you buy at character creation, but from then on is just another skill you can have for the Wit attribute. However, the penalty to miss a spell cast attempt is -1D for the skill until you get an hour of rest to remove all penalties. That is too steep. I changed it to either be -1 pip to the magic skill, or to -1D whenever you attempt that spell and leave all other spells unaffected (unless you miss a spell cast skill check for another spell, so each is -1D).
I also think the GM needs more control over the difficulty numbers. The GM could even change the difficulty for attempting the exact same thing twice. AKA using telekinesis to lift a drawbridge of a castle is moderate target number (TN15) one day, but at midnight you try again only to find out the Target Number is now 25. Because magic is unknowable and eldritch. Or the GM needs the drawbridge to stay down for his scenario to work.
I built a "rare, high magic fantasy" with D6. Some of it is posted on the forums over at Rancor Pit.
Using the standard size attributes from SWD6 I added 2 more, Casting and Channeling. Casting determines your success with a spell, channeling determines the spell's power/damage. Individual spells are learned like advanced skills under the Casting attribute.
This sets up a system that keeps individual mages balanced with melee fighters for power, usually a bit weaker. Casting a spell by yourself automatically invokes multiple action penalties. Casting as a group allows one player to cast while other players channel. It allows for some very powerful magic to be done, but keeps magic rare.
There's a lot more to it, but I'll keep it short and end there.
Also did a quick and dirty Star Trek D6 you can find over at Rancor Pit
@@Kytross I created a home brew cd6 fantasy game as well.
GURPS maybe?
It's a pearl of great price to listen to a heavy-set, middle-aged man get really enthusiastic about something beloved. It makes me (a bloke of similar description) feel vicariously enthusistic too.
You cheer up my day, Bear.
...and, for me at least, d6 tapped into the greater satisfaction to be had from the rolling of a handful of dice over just a single d20.
Glad to hear I bring cheer to you day sir! :)
I am still debating whether to back the D6 2E Kickstarter but after the mention of Supers! REd in this video, I went back and re-read it. After playing (or at least reading) multiple other RPG systems, I find that it is actually even better than I remembered.
I applaud your DIY journey. I’m not a superhero RPG player myself, but the Fantasy portion of your story resonates. As a GM I value cinematic games where the rules take trunk space with my back seat full of story/conflict options and my driver seat full of eager Players and their characters. I cut my teeth on D100 games but wanted a smoother, simpler, core-mechanic centered game. D6 scratched the itch. I now GM and play a home brew variant of Mini-6 and WEG and couldn’t be happier. As a side bonus I watch with sadness as my WotC brothers and sisters mourn the seeming demise of OGL 1.0, but deep down I can’t help feel fortuitously lucky I play D6-I got no burn marks from that raging dumpster fire. Carry on, mate! May all your WD roll “6”!
The big problem is OpenD6 was done under the OGL1.0a... so no one knows what's up with the ultimate fate of this system and so far the owners of OpenD6 have said nothing :(
I played in a game of Star Wars in which we blew up the Death Star before the Rebels could... one of the other players went nuts, told us off and we never saw him again...
LOL! Fanboy's gonna fanyboy ;)
Yes! The D6 System book you showed is a WONDERFUL source of brain food for using the system for whatever you want! Back in the 1990s I used it to fashion my own fantasy game based on AD&D. Some playtests to work out any bugs I might have missed and then I was off to the races with it!
I ran a multi-year fantasy game with 6+ players and had a BLAST! All using the D6 System. I never took to the "D6 Fantasy" book when it came out, as I already had a D6 based fantasy game I had been running for YEARS.
Like you, I had different magic forms, from the spell casters akin to AD&D, to more of a conjuration system where the conjuror fashions their own magic from the power they draw from the planet. Even my clerics and druids used a different form for their "prayers", where they gain their abilities from a deity they pray to.
I am still using my fantasy rules for the D6 System to this day, as I am running a one player game with my wife using the system, building upon the character she previously played some 20 years ago with our group. I have even added a new magic system, one the taps into the magical power trapped within the brilliant luminescence of gem stones. Gem Magic! Different gems grant different spells, and the power of the spell is scalable based on the refinement of the gem stone!
That being said, Mini Six and many other OpenD6 products that came out are neat to read over and potentially mine for other ideas.
It remains my favourite system of all time for many of the same reasons as you cite. :) Welcome to the funhouse :)
“Mine for other ideas” hehe
Ok, I came here to learn a bit about the D6 system since there is now a D6 2E Kickstarter running, but I was surprised to hear of your involvement with Supers! REd (my 2nd favourite Supers RPG) and then right after that, Capitaine Quebec...One of my best friends was the manager of the CQ store in DDO. It's neat to hear the name again all these years later.
Dude. My brother in RPGs. This is so me. I still have ALL of my original Star Wars d6 books, AND the WEG "D6" boxed set (Fantasy, Modern, and Space). It is my favorite core system. But good luck convincing anyone to play it. Sad panda.
And the various hacks out there! So many, and all so flavorful, such as "Buffy d6".
I also dislike pre-determined "classes" and Star Wars d6 did such a good job of presenting "archetypes" as a basic template to play as-is, or tweak to make it your own. Flexible. Simple. Brilliant.
I’m a big fan of D6 systems. WEG D6 Star Wars is so much fun to play/run! I ran a one-shot for my son’s group a while ago……and this has me in the mood to run another.
Outstanding!
I've always loved the D6 system...and for all the reasons you discussed. Btw, every single one of those games in the vid, to include the ones you only mentioned, are sitting on my shelves.
Envious ;)
Really enjoyed this. You seriously need to consider narrating audio books or something, your voice is like smokey whiskey butter, takes me back to the Icewind Dale days
You are too kind.
I'm a huge fan of Mini-6 Bare Bones. However, you're right that it needs some work. The main one for me is the magic system. I changed the penalty from -1D6 per failed spell check roll to -1D6 to further attempts to cast that same spell. Other spells are unaffected. The second thing is to ignore the target numbers of the spells. Let the GM set that as needed. Even consecutive uses of the same spell can be different target numbers. Why? Because magic is mystical and ever changing. Or just that the GM needs the gameplay to not mess up his campaign tonight, so that spell that was easy is now very hard.
One more thing I added was changing the Star Paladin "spell" called Sense Danger. In my version Sense Danger has the effect of turning your plasma sword into 75% cover when active, and you are concentrating, with a target number to cast based on numbers of enemies of 5 per enemy. If you roll an 11, then you are in cover vs 2 enemies. Get a 15, then three baddies need to shoot you as if you were in 75% (aka +10) cover difficult.. Yes, this means its only useful against ranged attacks, but so be it. When it comes time to sword fight, it is skill vs skill, though using your powers to aid you in other ways is always a possibility. Also, your really can only fail that spell if your roll was a 1-4. If you roll a 5, you are protected, though only against one enemy. If your facing 3 enemy troopers shooting at you, you may want to actually seek real cover, or drop your concentration and try again to get a 15. At least this combat spell is unlikely to ever induce a spell failure penalty this way, and that is by design.
I also love the Dueling Blades rules from Griffon Publishing for lightsaber fights. It makes it much more cinematic. Instead of hit/miss, now you a single opposed roll per round (no initiative needed), and your margin of success can result in 1 of 4 outcomes for the winner. 1-You push your enemy backwards in a direction you choose, 2-you stun them, 3-you wound them, 4-or you get a GM determined critical hit (aka severed hand, destroyed weapon, blinded in one eye, your pants fall down, etc.). It is really fun.
I really like this format. Not instead of, but in addition to. Good job, Bear!
Thanks!
Actually managed to stumble across the 2nd edition revised Star Wars D6 cheaply on a used game shelf, good (or better) quality. Not sure I'll ever have that much luck with Star Wars D6 again, but I'll keep my eye out.
They re released the first three books in physical copies. I would love to play in a star wars universe with the D6 system. I am okay with not being in the "official" canon of the movies, shows, books, etc because its the player's version of the star wars universe.
@@squatchhammer7215 The Ones Fantasy Flight Published? I have those too, they're 1st edition though. Even then, they're once again Out of Print. It was a limited run produced with permission of Nocturnal Media for the 30th anniversary. Both companies said they have no intention of restarting the Star Wars D6 Line (Fantasy Flight (and now their subsidiary, EDGE Studios) has their own Star Wars system (Which isn't that bad, just proprietary Dice...), Nocturnal has their more generic takes on the system that could be used for Star Wars with some minor work.)
@@SwordlordRoy ah, so there's a website that hosts the entire d6 run as well as a few newer editions.
Just wanted to say I used the WEG Star Wars system for a lot of different stuff back in the day. Before they did the D6 rulebook. I even cobbled together supers rules by kind of bolting the FASERIP Marvel powers onto it. It was a lot of fun.
It is such a versatile system and I am constantly shocked it isn't more popular than it is.
It's also worth noting that everyone has some d6 lying around. And although getting a set of dice is incomparably easier now, if you don't have at least one, you're screwed or forced to improvise Chits. d6? You get 7 of those between nearest risk and monopoly. Hell, I got 5 for pennies on a gas station once. And although you know I'm a sucker for other systems, I have that Mini Six: Bare Bones map-folded in my wallet just in case.
I got into RPGs when my friends got me West End Games Star Wars in 1987. Both the main rules and sourcebook. They wanted me to GM the game,and loved to system. I would go on to run Mekton Z (made by the same publisher that makes Cyberpunk) and Dream Pod 9's Silhouette system (a different type of D6 system) mainly Heavy Gear and Jovin Chronicles. Never knew about the Mini Six game. Need to get that.
Excellent games all around. :)
I love the D6 system.
I'm currently running a Steampunk Western that I call "Steam and Gunsmoke."
Been a lot of fun so far and the plays seem to really like it too.
Did almost have a TPK in the last session, came down to a single roll by one of the players....they were sweatin bullets. 😂
"sweatin' bullets"!?!?!? I love it! :)
Dude I loved Palladium’s Revised Superhero game! It was fun
love d6 system. helps to have players that are quick at arithmetic.
So I've run a ton of Star Wars but it was all the old WotC D20 and then FFGs version. I did pick up the WEG 30th Anniversary release though. That's because I loved the D6 system from my exposure to it, which funnily enough was through the campaigns I ran in the DC game. I still have all of the released books.
I really had high hopes for the D6 DC game, sadly I was only there before the Directive on Powers came out which supposedly fixed a lot of the issues.
Yeah, I'd say the Directive on Powers and the Magic Handbook are essential for the game. Sounds like I had an advantage knowing nothing about the game and coming to it later on. I had been heavily playing Marvel SAGA at that point so was really into Superhero rpgs. I just remember seeing it in the bargain section of a local game store after it had already been cancelled where I picked up all the books pretty cheap. Which is really cool in the case of that JSA book, it's ridiculously expensive now.
That all you spoke of sounded awesome! Now we have an awesome ttrpg from the UK produced by MK Games and called
D100 Dungeon from
Martin Knight.
I love D100 Dungeon!
The d6 is the best dice in my opinion so easy to just start playing with. 1 is always a fail 2 is like beating up a kid 3 is like beating up a pc nerd while you are physically active 4 is if both is as skilled 5 is like you are a gym bro but you are fighting an actual martial artist and a 6 is like fighting Mike Tyson
That Star Wars d6 book is incredible! I was lucky to score my own copy
I shall have it again... someday lol
I like the accesibility factor, very simple, very essy to learn and you use dice that are the most common to find
I have just got into EZD6, but I always loved the WEG D6 system, it just works. It’s easy, and can do everything. Might have to go get that pod!
Awesome video! Thank you!
Loved Marvel Supers Heroes, Yes Housed Ruled my own game
The system is perfect for everything from high fantasy, gritty fantasy, sci fi, spy stuff, you name it.
I've got Mythic D6 which I understand is based on Open D6. Then I've also played HERO System 5rev and 6. Then I also played GURPS 4e as well.
Seems like ICRPG is the d20 equivalent of this spirit. With few moving parts and many examples of how you can adjust and create your rules of choice.
I'm a bit of a newcomer to D6. I mostly dabble in other systems but the key componet to me is easy to run, not alot of crunch. Like I am a big fan of Kingdom Hearts and I want to make a campaign set in that world and given how each world (being based on various Disney properties though in my case I'd also be using non-Disney worlds) is radically different from the next I need a system that's versatile enough while having a solid foundation.
Course what also drew me to D6 is obviously, Star Wars because yeah, I love me some Star Wars.
A D6 Kingdom Hearts game sounds like it would work perfectly. Well done! :)
Minisix is pretty cool.
I really like the vaesen version of mutant year zero. I feel like it gives me the same feeling, but faster.
Vaesen mutant year zero? What is that?
Vaesen is a horror/mystery rpg running on Year Zero Engine system
I find the talent system in year zero engine too fiddly but love the the elegance of resolving several aspects in one roll with the different colored dice in Forbidden Lands.
If anyone says "Anti Pa-LAH-din" in my presence, they're gonna need eyes in their colon to read that rulebook!
Of course, if they say that, their head's probably way up there already.
Loved TSR's Marvel. It's really the best superhero rpg I've seen. FASA's Battletech/Mechwarrior was another d6 based favorite of mine.
Loved this. I loved Star Wars d6 as a teen. Think I might have to give mini d6 a whirl.
It's truly the BEST edition of D6 IMHO :)
You can't knock the price of Mini-Six Bare Bones. The PDF is free.
Thank you for this video, you have gained a new subscriber!
Welcome aboard!
I loved D6 Star Wars ! You could grow your character however you liked 👍
Yes! MiniSix is my favorite RPG system I've ever used. Constantly fiddling with it and adjusting things, especially the magic system.
One issue with Mini Six in particular is that the 12D you start with in your attributes makes the character feel superpowered, especially when you add the maximum 2D in a skill at character creation. If I create a dwarven warrior I'll give him (or her) Might 4D and Axes 2D so when making attacks with the axe, I roll 6D. The average result of that is, what, 20-21? Most monster's Parry is nowhere near that high!
I might limit characters to 10D for attributes at character creation, but we'll see.
Easily fixed, as you demonstrated :)
You can also make each 1D you have to spend in attibutes enough just to buy a pip, instead of a full die, as it follows: 1D, 1D+1, 1D+2, 2D, and so on.
I never have been able to play any of the Cyberpunk trpg games but I played a lot of Marvel and Star Wars D6. Star Wars was an impressive rpg due to how much material WEG pumped out. Every novel got a book for a few years, sometimes the comics got some attention too. A great time to be a Star Wars fan. I'm not a fan of Mythic d6.
Cyberpunk is something special as an RPG.
What are your thoughts on Open Legend? Believe it or not, my first RPG I ever ran was minisix and it was a campaign. I started to get overwhelmed trying to create mechanics for everything the players wanted to do, like creating werewolves for a player character who took over an NPC after theirs died and I didn't have any player side rules for that. The stress of balancing everything got to be too much. Loved the system though, it's size made it a plausible entry point for someone with social anxiety to not be overwhelmed from day one.
Open Legend kind of felt to me like it drew a lot of inspiration from the D6 system, Fate, and of course DnD. I decided it was still rules light enough to not overwhelm me but had enough 'do anything' mechanics to make so I didn't need to homebrew so much. It is sad to see it as also kind of defunct now.
Hey there. Never even read Open Legend. I don't know much about it, and would have to score the PDF and give it a look, since you are now the 2nd person to mention it to me. What can you tell me about it?
@@bearthegenxgm I'll try my best! But first you can read the rules free online on their website, the pdf and hardcopy are minorly out of date due to the new ownership not having access to the original files and having to rebuild the pdf and book from scratch. I own the hardcopy. I believe it is only 1 boon that has officially been replaced and there isn't any other large changes currently.
I would say the main takeaways are that it separates 'how' an action is done from it's effects, so that players can RP what their character is doing; whether a spell or a weapon or superpowers or what have you, through it's banes and boons system. I don't know if they were the first to do something like that but it was the first encounter of banes and boons that I had.
So for example whether you are casting a spell to entangle someones feet, throwing senbon needles at their nerves, or lasso'ing them with a rope, those actions would 'invoke' the "immobile" bane on a target.
The system also has all die explode. Advantage and disadvantage. And a 'fail but the story progresses rule' to try and make all rolls matter. Classless system.
Players really create whatever abilities they want their characters to have. This was the same approach we used in my mini six campaign where one player had a jerryrig skill. It is definitely balanced towards a super powered style of game like DnD or something with superheroes, trying to do a 'regular people' type campaign with it was a little bit off but not too bad.
I honestly think it would be better to introduce new players to a system with less creative freedom than Open Legend and move to it after the fact just because of how much 'player cooperation' you need given how much freedom player's have over flavor; they can mechanically be able to do something that their own character flavor doesn't actually allow them to do.
That being said it's 'how you do it' agnostic design creates a very rules lite and versatile system. My biggest gripe was honestly that because dice can explode infinitely and all dice explode - you sometimes got absurd runaway numbers in VTT's like 105 that there was no way to satisfyingly describe an outcome for; like killing a filler monster. In person a lot of people homebrew explosion limits and dice limits to avoid excessive rolling. But for some people all that rolling and exploding is a big part of the fun. Being a VTT only gm, I don't get the full experience there.
Also, disclosure, I haven't run any ttrpg in 2 years and am just starting to get back into it. Probably going to use open legend most likely. Unless I ran a regular people game again, in which case I would probably do minisix again; just with no werewolves this time :)
@@fanfywriter8727 sounds neat! I'd want to see it played to get an idea more of how it flows, but sounds very interesting. Thanks for sharing :)
Have shadowrun 2e and starwars Wes 2e. Love them both especially the starwars one
I am one of those who doesn't care for the WEG Star Wars 2e. Adding in skill specialties just complicates everything. WEG Star Wars 1e is perfect.
I can go either way. Ultimately the problem for me with D6 will always be character improvement.
Can we get on a list for your Marvel Super Heroes clone?
There is no list. It was pulled due to the OGL issues.
Hello, fellow Canuck! Whenever I design a game, it's always the WEGD6 system that is the root. However, I always hated the addition!
Is this d6 system rules available online with the license to use the game mechanics for those who wish to create their own role playing game?
Google OpenD6, but be warned it uses the OGL1.0a
Hey, love this review. Wish there were more videos on the D6 System. I have massive trouble reading "rules" from a book and have to always ask a million questions, because everything appears ambiguous to me when reading. I guess that is some kind undiagnosed reading disability or something. Don't know. But videos on the topic always help me.
You said that you use the standard D6 and MiniSix. Is it to complement the MiniSix rulebook for more specific things? I have the D6 Space rulebook, because I like more of a Cyberpunk, Scifi-Setting. Can I assume that D6 Space has everything the standard book has or would you recommend getting Starwars REUP (revised, expanded updated) or maybe even Septimus for the most up to date and granular rules? 🙂I know it's an involved question again, like I mentioned before :D
I cherry pick from all D6, but any D6 Adjective (Space, Fantasy, etc ...) game is complete. Star Wars REUP is also complete, and I've no idea on Septimus. :)
@@bearthegenxgm Thx, Starwars REUP look great, but is just too massive :D I would have to print it on demand, but we don't have lulu here in Germany :-)
Septimus is a complete Pen and Paper from WEG finished in 2009, basically the final product. I think it was already released in OGL. It didn't strike me to have vastly different rules 🙂
Can I ask wre the "Damage devided by Soak" rule comes from? I looked into the D6 and D6 Space rulebook, but could only find the "damager over restistance" kind of rule.
@@deltapi8859 It comes from 1e Star Wars and the D6 basic book (still the best official D6 product ever). :)
@@bearthegenxgm Awesome, thx. I'll look into it :-)
great video. what is your opinion on GURPS?
Love their source books, never actually played the game. Sorry to disappoint.
@@bearthegenxgm i am not disappointed :) i actually liked your video. i just wonder about opinion ;) i believe people with all this DnD fuss right now, started to realise that there are other systems
@@Leverquin I'm an old school gamer from like 1985, we played LOTS of different games and very little D&D in the 90's ;)
@@bearthegenxgm that is nice. i wish i can make my friends to try non DnD
I love EZd6!!!
Not judging, just asking.
Basically, you are advocating mini d6? Is it an entire system or like you talked about, one would need to get other d6 books to hack together an actual game?
That clip at the end. What was that? Why was it for Mr. Welch? ...
Mini Six can play on it's own. As for Connelly, well Mr. Welch and I disagree on who the goddess from that era was, he says Ryder, I say Connelly ;)
Definitely Connely, hands down!