Sakura's Statement.
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I was planning to make a different video for this week, but this situation has been on mind. Also I do realize their actual company is Source Music and HYBE is the label over them. Thank you so much for watching, let me know your opinions!
It was my first time hearing their song “Fire in the belly” and after that I listened to the song on Spotify and what a difference.🤯
I agree with you and some people these comments who are doing it just to get attention
The problem Hybe itself. They use WAY too much vocal processing and filters to the point it creates a literal cognitive dissonance between the members themselves and their listeners when we hear them without all that post editing on their voices. If Hybe relaxed on the autotuning, invest more on I n-house vocal trainers rather than choreographers, it would actually set realistic expectations on how the live version of Le Serra (and all their groups) would sound like and also the members won’t have to worry about any hate trains like they are experiencing now.
i do think sakura did improve but it’s still bad that the others seemingly didn’t
kazuha and eunchae are still stagnant like no improvements
chaewon carrying
yunjin has regressed and this shows me that hybe didn’t train their voices as your voice can regress if you don’t keep singing you can lose your style and technique
but despite all that tho i think hybe is responsible they do need criticism like come on
also they were defo not ready for Coachella but yeah i expected this
I agree Sakura, did improve in that performance
I think Sakura improved as well as Kazuha, Yunjin still sounds good to me vocally, I don't think she regressed at all, she just isn't trained for a live performance or she was nervous. If you listen, she clearly still has her voice and it sounds great still, just her technique when singing live isn't great.
It's a bit disappointing but I do think the group improved a bit and I think they were genuinely nervous 😅 especially Yunjin seemed nervous to me personally, which I can't blame her for lol
I agree that Yunjin has regressed, she seemed to have better technique and vocal control in highschool and on PD48
ok so hear me out i'm not a lesfm's stan but i still went to see the coachella performance cuz like why not lol...i saw bp and aespa too when they came and lemme tell you they sounded so goos the vibe of the whole show was AMAZING the aura they created was just wow....even a group of ppl who did not listen to kpop asked me who they were..n said that they were amazing...n i thought they were better than bp and cuz they used a lot of back track but i literally did not hear any backtrack from lesfm n aespa had no stage presence but they had so much of that...
one more thing sakura used to use her nasal voice during iz*one n when she was japanese idol but now and she sounded good and stable(u can check her performances) n now she has to use her chest voice which she is having trouble with but sounds so much better in coachella....
it's only the ppl who've not even been to the actual live performance who are shitting on them like...tell me one person who was there live n is shitting on them lol
I think people don’t realize that vocal improvement takes a long time. If they were dragged only a month before, they’re not becoming gold tier vocalists automatically.
For as long as Beyoncé is still touring and singing her ass off effortlessly thanks to actually TRAINING and still training her voice- I REFUSE to accept lackluster effort when I comes to perfecting vocal stamina, agility, and stability. There are 2nd and 3rd gen groups who perform every so often but when they do, their vocals never wavered and even it cracks, they’re still on pitch for the rest of the song. I refuse to lower to bar just because one of my favorite groups think they “make it look easy” all the while lacking the sufficient breath support to back that up. Love Le Serrafim, but they REALLY need to pull it together because these excuses only get lamer and lamer as the years go by. If you claimed you trained for x amount of years, you should be able to have something to show for it. That’s my only opinion on the matter. Love them, just wish they’d work on their vocal stamina & agility, also hoping they find a better way to utilize Eunchae’s cove cause what they’re doing rn…. That’s just not it.
I'm a fearnot, and I also feel disappointed 😩 only because we can see other groups, trainees, and artists sing live and perform without it sounding bad (even txts encore wasn't that bad, it was honestly fine). As someone who knows a bit about singing, it's not too hard to sing in a way that the public thinks sounds good 😅 there are certain things (heavy breathing, vocal cracks, being off pitch, etc.) that is obvious to the audience's ears and that makes you sound bad.
The thing is, live singing isn't new. It's not new in Kpop, not new in general. It's definitely more expected right now to be good at it, but it has always been a part of performance as a musical artist. There are techniques, quick techniques, that can improve how you sound do the audience isn't uncomfortable. So, it does feel like the company is neglecting the girls because it's not impossible to sing live. If they had been receiving proper training and had been taught quick techniques to help with certain things, it would show for most of the group.
The only people I expect to lack or sound worse is Sakura or Kazuha or Eunchae (idk how long Eunchae trained 🤔) because of their specific training situations. Yunjin had her moments, but overall obviously struggled with breathing.
Chaewon probably sounded the best because of her idol career, but obviously Sakura had a longer career, but in Japan it's not as important (until recently) for idols to sing well, so I'm not surprised that she might not have good foundations and she probably is working twice as hard as the others all the time because of that.
Anyways, I definitely think the company is not doing much to help them, and I know they are seeing all the hate and criticism, which makes me sad tbh because people are being so mean. But I do hope the company can accept this critique while punishing the people actually being hateful. I'm sure the girls want to improve, and I hope they do.
ok so hear me out i'm not a lesfm's stan but i still went to see the coachella performance cuz like why not lol...i saw bp and aespa too when they came and lemme tell you they sounded so goos the vibe of the whole show was AMAZING the aura they created was just wow....even a group of ppl who did not listen to kpop asked me who they were..n said that they were amazing...n i thought they were better than bp and cuz they used a lot of back track but i literally did not hear any backtrack from lesfm n aespa had no stage presence but they had so much of that...
one more thing sakura used to use her nasal voice during iz*one n when she was japanese idol but now and she sounded good and stable(u can check her performances) n now she has to use her chest voice which she is having trouble with but sounds so much better in coachella....
it's only the ppl who've not even been to the actual live performance who are shitting on them like...tell me one person who was there live n is shitting on them lol
@@yourleftbuttcheek.75 I go to live concerts a lot, I still think they sounded questionable. I am a Lesserafim Stan and and ATEEZ Stan. Ateez also did Coachella and just watching the live stream they sound great, no one is off pitch, they are pretty clear, no one sounds horribly out of breath, and they are doing full choreography and screaming at times. Even the "weak vocalists" have basically proven that they are not weak anymore and they have definitely improved as singers. I think maybe the bar is high, but when you've seen groups sing live perfectly fine and members who previously weren't great at singing becoming stable singers, it makes you question why other groups do it so poorly, especially with less choreography and less intense vocals required. And ateez have always performed live when they could and have a lot of concert experience, so that's something to point out, but since debut we have seen consistent meaningful improvements with their live performances vocally.
I went to see another artist, Melanie Martinez, she was out of breath on stage and occasionally off pitch. But she is a recovering smoker 😅 and she was wearing facial prosthetics. That's a situation where I expect long term damage to someone's voice and lungs to impact their performance. The only one who could have that is Sakura because like I said she might've been trained wrong for years while doing idol work in Japan. Unless something terrible happened that is preventing Lesserafim from not sounding questionable every time they do an actual live performance, I think they will continue facing criticism because there is no excuse when other groups sound absolutely fine.
I think people have a point to criticize whether they were there or not. I think many audiences think attempting to sing while dancing is impressive, and it is, but it's their job. That's literally foundationally kpop I'm 2024 is to sing and dance at the same time. So, for others, maybe it's cool, but seeing other kpop groups do it better and knowing that's a bare minimum standard in kpop, I think criticism is valid. Also it's a concert so if the artist is having fun, the audience will too. I don't think anyone thinks they did a bad job making people like them or people didn't enjoy their performance, I think we are saying they didn't show meaningful improvements vocally as a group, and it's disappointing and also weird that we have been saying the same thing for years lol
I understand where you are coming from and I don't think everyone sounded like trash or anything. Sakura did sound better than usual, but as a group of 2 years with concert experience, the vocal performance was questionable. They have more opportunities to perform live than other groups do, but it doesn't seem like they are learning how to sing live while other groups with less opportunities are way better at it.
@@Molly-iw1rc I love how you worded all of this. So well said.
I’m really tired of the lie that I’m Japan it’s not important to sing well when literally ONE GOOGLE SEARCH can show you a pleathora of Japanese singers who have vocal talent and don’t sound like prepubescent children. Some of Japans biggest singers are heralded world class VOCALISTS!!!! Really REALLY sick of this misinformation being spread as if Japanese artists are inferior to their Korean counterparts.
@@OGseoulite lets not even talk about japanese artists but the group that sakura was under in japan did use their nasal voices...unlike now i lesfm where she has to use her chest voice.
and yes as someone who listens to jp songs not all japanese artists sould like a child there are those who do and that's there genre which is fine music is subjective but this is not at all missinformation
Tbh if you want to look at the company one of the biggest issues is how much they were doing during the performance while singing live. The stage choreo was not organized in a way where even their strongest members would sound good live - nor did they utilize the dancers in a way where they would sound good live - and they were singing some parts (like the chorus) that most other groups will just let the backtrack sing or partially sing. The only girlgroup in kpop currently who I think would pull off that much choreo (of that difficulty) while singing live with so few members with hardly any backtrack AND sound good the entire time is Nmixx. Even when I think of a girlgroup like RedVelvet performing a set like that I feel like it would turn out similarly.
If you go watch vocally/performance strong groups like EXO's live performances most of the members singing extensive parts in the songs or belting are doing so while standing still (Chen, Baekhyun, D.O.) + there are more members to divide the lines between - even looking at Ateez they know when + how to use the backtrack especially if the members are dancing hard hitting choreo . If you go watch BlackPink or Beyonce's Cochella performances the stage choreography is adjusted in a way for the artists to get enough breath to support their notes where LeSerrafim is doing their full out choreography for most songs while singing live with little to no backtrack or backup singers.
IMO The worst two performances were Smart + Fire in the belly. Yunjin had a rough start but seemed to pull it together for the most part, Chaewon also sounded good for most of the performance, but you could tell she was struggling to get breath support during the second half or when doing complex movement like crawling on the ground. Kazuha was fairly stable throughout but also struggled with stability during dance heavy parts of the performance. Sakura sounded the best I have ever heard her sound live - and she knew when she should just 'not sing" even if it was her line and she was going to sound bad. Eunchae seemed to struggle the most. Overall I think they should use the handheld mic's more often because the songs where they used them sounded better for almost every member.
ok so hear me out i'm not a lesfm's stan but i still went to see the coachella performance cuz like why not lol...i saw bp and aespa too when they came and lemme tell you they sounded so goos the vibe of the whole show was AMAZING the aura they created was just wow....even a group of ppl who did not listen to kpop asked me who they were..n said that they were amazing...n i thought they were better than bp and cuz they used a lot of back track but i literally did not hear any backtrack from lesfm n aespa had no stage presence but they had so much of that...
one more thing sakura used to use her nasal voice during iz*one n when she was japanese idol but now and she sounded good and stable(u can check her performances) n now she has to use her chest voice which she is having trouble with but sounds so much better in coachella....
it's only the ppl who've not even been to the actual live performance who are shitting on them like...tell me one person who was there live n is shitting on them lol
Tbh this all is crazy cuz before their easy comeback their vocals were a nightmare, so i was so fcking scared when i found out they’ll be performing on coachella, but they’ve improved a lot, like, compare their coachella performance to their unforgiven encores.. I definitely wasn’t expecting the hate train; i do acknowledge that before coachella certain members were disappointing (esp kkura cuz shes the one w most experience) but in coachella they really improved as much as a person can within such a short amount of time, there is still room for improvement thats for sure, but “criticizing” them for their coachella performance is crazy cuz there’s literally no way they’d serve amazing vocals in such a short training time, as a multi stan i do have high standards for performances, but they did amazing at coachella.
i feel conflicted over sakura's statement. i agree that to the public it sounds more like an excuse that lacks accountability. it was as if she puts the blame on people for having different standard than hers who rated the performance as their best yet. i feel like it shouldve been kept private as means to support and encourage oneself. in self improvement and mental health perspective, its more important to see the progress we made and compare us to how we were before. but then again, like i said, it shouldve been kept private. shes an idol of 10+ years, she shouldve known how to be careful in making a statement.
ok so hear me out i'm not a lesfm's stan but i still went to see the coachella performance cuz like why not lol...i saw bp and aespa too when they came and lemme tell you they sounded so goos the vibe of the whole show was AMAZING the aura they created was just wow....even a group of ppl who did not listen to kpop asked me who they were..n said that they were amazing...n i thought they were better than bp and cuz they used a lot of back track but i literally did not hear any backtrack from lesfm n aespa had no stage presence but they had so much of that...
one more thing sakura used to use her nasal voice during iz*one n when she was japanese idol but now and she sounded good and stable(u can check her performances) n now she has to use her chest voice which she is having trouble with but sounds so much better in coachella....
it's only the ppl who've not even been to the actual live performance who are shitting on them like...tell me one person who was there live n is shitting on them lol
It doesn’t sound like an excuse to me one bit when i read it. Rather it’s more like reflecting on it, trying to be positive while acknowledge that there are still more that they need to improve on. She have always strive to improve and always acknowledge that she did not have good vocals. But people always wanted to hear the idols say that they are not good enough with their own mouth and over and over again
I think this whole statement was more of an excuse over accountability. Throughout the statement, Sakura seems to offer excuses rather than taking full accountability for their performance for instance, she mentioned being a relatively new team which might suggest that any shortcomings can be attributed to their lack of experience. However, instead of using these factors as excuses, let's not forget that she was in the industry for 10 years and Chaewon was also in a group earlier so they have more experience being on stage than the other girls and also they could have focused on how they overcame challenges and delivered an outstanding performance but their performance was not even good. I think what irked me about her statement was that there's a tone of self-congratulation throughout the statement, with Sakura repeatedly emphasizing how proud she is of their performance. While it's important to acknowledge achievements, humility is also crucial, especially in an industry where teamwork and collaboration are valued and especially after they were being criticised by everyone, it seemed a bit tone deaf and delusional. Also no one was setting heavy emphasis on perfection, people just wanted a good performance for once from that group. Maybe I'm just upset because I am an older fan and have higher standards for performances but I really just want to enjoy kpop with good music and good performances.
ok so hear me out i'm not a lesfm's stan but i still went to see the coachella performance cuz like why not lol...i saw bp and aespa too when they came and lemme tell you they sounded so goos the vibe of the whole show was AMAZING the aura they created was just wow....even a group of ppl who did not listen to kpop asked me who they were..n said that they were amazing...n i thought they were better than bp and cuz they used a lot of back track but i literally did not hear any backtrack from lesfm n aespa had no stage presence but they had so much of that...
one more thing sakura used to use her nasal voice during iz*one n when she was japanese idol but now and she sounded good and stable(u can check her performances) n now she has to use her chest voice which she is having trouble with but sounds so much better in coachella....
it's only the ppl who've not even been to the actual live performance who are shitting on them like...tell me one person who was there live n is shitting on them lol
@@yourleftbuttcheek.75 Okay first of all I think my comment was mainly on the statement that Sakura made and one line about their performance but that's the only cord that struck with you so I guess I'll comment on the performance. As you said Sakura's vocal improvement is commendable, its' good to know that she's working on refining her technique after all the criticisms she got. However, attributing her progress solely to the switch from nasal to chest voice overlooks the complexities of vocal training is lacking ,Improvement in singing often involves a combination of factors, including proper breathing technique, vocal exercises (who knew my 4 years in choir would be useful lol) which she still lacks in and she needs to continue to improve, I am not discrediting her improvement, I actually found her to be one of the better ones on stage on that day and I was actually a Sakura stan since she was a Japanese idol and going to iz*on (MAYBE I LIKE NASAL TONES BECAUSE I LIKE ANIME LOL). ALSO while you dismiss criticism from those who haven't attended the live performance, it's important to acknowledge that opinions can be formed based on various factors, including recorded footage, audio quality, and personal preferences. Discounting valid critiques simply because they weren't present at the event I feel like its not fair and it limits constructive criticism because the majority of their fandom may not be able to go to Coachella and had to sit and watch their performances at home on their computer. (sorry for my essay, I am currently writing research and this is my aversion and procrastination so I'm here lol)
“Accountability”?! These are Kpop idols not politicians. We’re talking about singing here, this isn’t some injustice she committed.
Y’all have lost the plot.
@@Lonadurn like they ATE in 2nd week now ppl are accusing them on lip syncying lmooo bfr
@@Lonadurn get a dictionary, you can still use the word accountability in this context. Accountability is taking responsibility for one’s actions and it also includes admitting one’s errors and mistakes and being able to accept criticism and it shows that the person is willing to communicate and listen for them to improve in the future. Also if a child can be accountable for their actions then so can Sakura. I’m not talking about politics and I didn’t talk anything bad in simply analyzing her writing in that letter.
Good on sakura for releasing that. Kpop stans have lost the plot. Remember this is Kpop. Kpop has positions. They spell it out for you. A main dancer is skilled at dancing. A main vocalist is good at vocals. A visual or center has great aura and draws people towards the group. Groups are a team. Much like basketball. Basketball teams have assigned roles too. There needs to be versatility in skills. Shaq was a terrible shooter. But thats what stephen curry is known for. Both still very revered in their sports.
I hate to be the person that brings up blackpink but part of the reason they were able to be so popular is because each member had a strength that made up for another members weakness. If lsfm can strike that balance, then their live stages will be improved exponentially.
This is true. But wanting the girls (or anyone else) to have proper training and vocal technique, regardless of who’s in what position, is not just because they’ll sound better. It’s because it’s healthy, and not having proper training can cause issues later on. Poor vocals are a result of low stamina, not having enough support, and poor technique. Even main vocalist, who are seen as amazing singers, can have poor technique. Also I like your BLACKPINK example
my problem is i never seen them on stage as a team. i think hybe poorly managed the choreos or something like, if this was skz they would good in team and individual shots. but they lack individuality. or rather their moves are so big all the time, they look like robots than a team
Regardless of the position, a debuted idols should be able to carry a tune and sing live of their own songs.
I understand that not anyone can be a Baekhyun or Wendy, or a group to be blessed with 4 main vocals like Mamamoo; but LSF performance is dissappointing esp. for fans and audience who paid premium to be there. Even more so since this is not the first time they are critized due to unstable vocals.
ok so hear me out i'm not a lesfm's stan but i still went to see the coachella performance cuz like why not lol...i saw bp and aespa too when they came and lemme tell you they sounded so goos the vibe of the whole show was AMAZING the aura they created was just wow....even a group of ppl who did not listen to kpop asked me who they were..n said that they were amazing...n i thought they were better than bp and cuz they used a lot of back track but i literally did not hear any backtrack from lesfm n aespa had no stage presence but they had so much of that...
one more thing sakura used to use her nasal voice during iz*one n when she was japanese idol but now and she sounded good and stable(u can check her performances) n now she has to use her chest voice which she is having trouble with but sounds so much better in coachella....
it's only the ppl who've not even been to the actual live performance who are shitting on them like...tell me one person who was there live n is shitting on them lol
If they wanted to be a dance group they’d be a dance group. The bar is in hell, even for their main vocalist due to hybe’s training.
Sakura vocal was improved in coachella,yet the quality was just basic, not too bad, but it was her unnecessary statement that made the problem got bigger
I feel like people blew this whole thing out of proportion and now treat these girls pretty unfairly: Sakura didn’t refuse to better herself, she did improve, their first songs of the set were absolutely fine and I feel like you guys are kinda putting words into her mouth by now- The fact that she did even release a statement shows that’s she’s aware of the fact that they aren’t the best vocalists this generation has seen and does take accountability while simultaneously saying that being perfect in every area wasn’t their goal in the first place but to have fun and I just don’t think it’s valid to shit on them for that.
Ever since the 2nd gen it’s been very normal to have a few members in a group that can’t sing, those are usually then made to be the rapper of the group despite not being good at that either, in that sense I think ppl should rather focus on the fact that the actual issues lies between them not having members that seem to be able compensate for the lack of vocals all of the time and their songs may or may not often being out of their range imo.
Recognise that in fact, not every idol needs to be a good singer. There’s a reason Position existed and why idols are called idols, there are so many other layers that makes u one and in no way am I saying they should just be comfortable with the state their vocals are in rn, but I’m saying Sakura wasn’t saying that either in her statement and that you guys could cut them some slack when noticing that they are improving and that vocals are still, wether u like it or not, not the main department of every idol to necessarily be good in.
I do appreciate that u did also call the fact out that It has gotten to a point again where it’s not about good-intended criticism in favour of their improvement but straight up bullying. I mean yes, constructive criticism is fine as long there’s Intention behind it that doesn’t hurt anyone but I don’t think I’ve ever seen kpop stans be good at handling that.
Anyway, let’s see how it plays out for next week
I agree Sakura improved in that performance. I agree with a lot of what you said, but I’m going to add that every member in LE SSERAFIM are listed as vocalist. Even if some are weaker than the others, that’s still a role they play in the group. And despite the vocals, it comes down to the fact that their stamina and stability is not that good as well. I know there are other roles in the group, but no one has an issue with their dancing or stage presence. It’s the vocals, stamina, and stability. And I also do realize, that there are other things that go into being an idol. But that’s just not what’s being discussed and not what people are having issues with. (Besides a few controversies recently) I completely understand where you’re coming from though. And I do really wish people were aiming their frustrations more towards their company, cause the girls can only do so much on their own.
@@luna_n0va absolutely and I guess I was more referring to those who now constantly bring up their faves (Especially the main vocalists of named groups) to now further bring them down and/or try to downgrade their talents as a whole, when singing is a part but not the only one that makes an idol an idol.
@@icebreaker5303ohh I see what you mean. Yea that’s definitely not right. I don’t even know why people are questioning their talent. All they need is more practice, the talent is there
ok so hear me out i'm not a lesfm's stan but i still went to see the coachella performance cuz like why not lol...i saw bp and aespa too when they came and lemme tell you they sounded so goos the vibe of the whole show was AMAZING the aura they created was just wow....even a group of ppl who did not listen to kpop asked me who they were..n said that they were amazing...n i thought they were better than bp and cuz they used a lot of back track but i literally did not hear any backtrack from lesfm n aespa had no stage presence but they had so much of that...
one more thing sakura used to use her nasal voice during iz*one n when she was japanese idol but now and she sounded good and stable(u can check her performances) n now she has to use her chest voice which she is having trouble with but sounds so much better in coachella....
it's only the ppl who've not even been to the actual live performance who are shitting on them like...tell me one person who was there live n is shitting on them lol
@@icebreaker5303 it’s cause most of the group struggles to sing their own parts. If they release music, they should be able to sing their own songs. If you compare lsf to itzy, a group that isn’t vocally strong, each of the members are comfortable with singing live
Its honestly just sad at this point how bad this whole Situation got espacially since people apperently seem too forgett pretty basic stuff about the girls while critizising things that arent even in the girls responsibilty just as a reminder being an idol is about way more then just vocals and it still comes down too raw talent aswellll as the pure composition of the group were still talking about a group where only 2 members are known for being able too be good vocalists sakura was never in her whole carrer known for being a good vocal and she did defenetly improove over the years aswell kazuha was literaly a ballerina before diddnt have a sufficient training period and was then just thrown in eunchae is literaly a child that got thrown into it too soon do you guys really think constantly preassuring them will acctualy do any good ? Ever thought about that the whole pressure might even influence things negative ? There Literaly have been statements of the girls (in the case of the statement sakura) that theyrs literaly scared of stepping into a recording booth because of crap like that stop targetting the girls and focus on where the Problem acctualy lies and thats not just hybe rather the pressure of doing things quick that simply is extremly big in this industry
I get where you’re coming from, but it definitely still is HYBE’s fault. The industry may be fast paced, but HYBE has control over how long the girls train before their debut. To my knowledge, there really wasn’t a reason to debut them so early. GFriend was still a group and were doing great at the time. There was no need to rush their debut, they could’ve used the extra training. And I definitely agree that a lot of negativity might do more harm than good. But when it comes to criticism, like the actual constructive criticism. That comes with the job. And it’s not just about them not sounding good, for me it’s about their vocal health as well. If the girls want a long career and to actually improve, they have to learn how to properly support their voice with breathing techniques and more. Straining, Forcing notes without proper support, will only damage their voices in the long run.
@@luna_n0va hybe is defenetly Part of it No questions asked but i still think Putting all the blame on them is still false they have controll but theyre still forced Too comply with Public expectations due Too the industry Being so fast paced and competetive even though it in Most cases is the wrong decision Too overpace Debuts im with you there also Ofc constructive critizism is Important i agree but i also think it highly depends on the Timing of it making it During a on going hate train wont lead Too the Girls seeing how they improve rather Hurt them and make them Shut Off in Most cases i also agree that its Important for them Too get proper Training and Training periods but that again imo isnt only on hybe but the whole industry its a systematic Problem far spread which defenetly needs Too change
No one is going to be happy until the girls say “sorry, we suck at singing. we’re going away forever and will apologize for the rest of our lives” like what do y’all want them to say? The only thing they can do is keep performing live to improve. So they’ll keep making mistakes until they get better, but they’ll never be great singers naturally. You all are going to expect apologies every single time.
Y’all are just insane. Sakura has never claimed to be a singer.
I never said I expected an apology, she doesn’t even have to apologize. And I don’t really know if too many people have even been asking for one. But if you’re going to give a statement, instead of jumping around the subject, why not just directly address it. She doesn’t have to do anything, it’s still her choice at the end of the day. But this is apart of her job. The only reason I’m speaking on it, is because it’s become a reoccurring issue for a while now. So there hasn’t been much improvement. And I’m also speaking on it, because the criticism has become insane. I’m actually really just wanting HYBE to do more and for people to stop putting the blame on only the girls.
@@luna_n0va and what if they are getting training? The public never sees that. We’ll never see all the behind the scenes work that goes into putting this performance together. Y’all assume they are just out out there. In reality, they are probably preparing a lot but need years of live performance practice. The solution is not to perform less. When they keep making mistakes, will y’all keep hating? Live singing in Kpop is ULTRA rare for this exact reason
@@Lonadurn if they are getting vocal training, than that’s a whole other conversation. And you’re right, there are a lot of assumptions, and they shouldn’t just be thrown around. I still think it’s fair, for fans to give out constructive criticism. No hate of course. And no one’s asking them to perform less, many people just did not think Coachella was a good move for the group. And people are allowed to share those opinions. And again this video isn’t hate, nowhere in this did I give out hate. Once again a mistake is a mistake, there might be some who will still have something to say. But some fans aren’t going to get upset about a few mistakes. But this has not just been a few mistakes. But I hope they improve more in the future, cause they are a talented group and do not deserve the hate. I wish fans could give out helpful opinions, instead of hate. But because of that, fans now can’t even give out constructive criticism either, without it being viewed as hate.
@@luna_n0va only Kpop fans place this much importance on Coachella. People go to get hype and see all kinds of artists from around the world let loose. Le Sserafim weren’t headliners and frankly Kpop wasn’t even the talk of the festival. People who were there had a great time and said it was super hype. The people expected to put on insane shows are the subheadliners like Peso Pluma (who also can’t sing, but no one cares) and JBalvin and the headliners. That’s why they put them on the giant Coachella stage.
@@Lonadurn That’s very true! I do believe the hate, put a huge spotlight on the girl’s performance and it was mostly the bad parts. Which sucks, cause they did have some really good parts in there, the stage presence was good and I’m sure it was fun in person. I’m ready to see what they bring next week, and I hope the hate doesn’t cause them to be timid
Why are we acting like she spat on a fans face and yelled at them ? I'm sorry but this all seems a bit much😭😭😭😭
ok so hear me out i'm not a lesfm's stan but i still went to see the coachella performance cuz like why not lol...i saw bp and aespa too when they came and lemme tell you they sounded so goos the vibe of the whole show was AMAZING the aura they created was just wow....even a group of ppl who did not listen to kpop asked me who they were..n said that they were amazing...n i thought they were better than bp and cuz they used a lot of back track but i literally did not hear any backtrack from lesfm n aespa had no stage presence but they had so much of that...
one more thing sakura used to use her nasal voice during iz*one n when she was japanese idol but now and she sounded good and stable(u can check her performances) n now she has to use her chest voice which she is having trouble with but sounds so much better in coachella....
it's only the ppl who've not even been to the actual live performance who are shitting on them like...tell me one person who was there live n is shitting on them lol
If fearnots don’t want people to address the problem anymore, then fans have to be okay with lsf being known as a lipsyncing group. Those mics need to stay off if they can’t sing
Cuz she called them out for being jobless and not minding their own business, n that hurt them 💀
@@dotcom3015that has nothing to do with the comment ur replying to.. they’re talkim about sakura’s letter specifically, and ur talkin about vocals
@@Iamcompletelysane yeah sakuras letter was addressing the comments about their singing ability. Sakura needs to stop excusing her lack of skills when it’s been years of no improvement, literally the only solution for the whole group is to stick to lipsyncing or take enough time to actually learn to sing
Honestly I would love to see some of these haters preform outside doing full choreo to like 15 songs and singing. It just isn’t always gonna sound perfect.
The haters and the naysayers are not debuted idol, nor they are paid artist.
I agree that some feedback are very mean, and done for malice. But a lot of other criticism are warranted. LSFM is a debuted idols, a bunch of professionals, and the Coachella audience paid to be there; the least the artists can do is put out decent performances.
Sakura was trying to say is yes we made mistakes and we’re human and we’re not the only artist had difficulties with the equipment so stop being so disrespectful. and it makes me mad that you will diss my favourite girl group and the weather wasn’t perfect, so most equipment could be not working in the weather that Coachella had
Excuses. It's not just about coachella.
ok so hear me out i'm not a lesfm's stan but i still went to see the coachella performance cuz like why not lol...i saw bp and aespa too when they came and lemme tell you they sounded so goos the vibe of the whole show was AMAZING the aura they created was just wow....even a group of ppl who did not listen to kpop asked me who they were..n said that they were amazing...n i thought they were better than bp and cuz they used a lot of back track but i literally did not hear any backtrack from lesfm n aespa had no stage presence but they had so much of that...
one more thing sakura used to use her nasal voice during iz*one n when she was japanese idol but now and she sounded good and stable(u can check her performances) n now she has to use her chest voice which she is having trouble with but sounds so much better in coachella....
it's only the ppl who've not even been to the actual live performance who are shitting on them like...tell me one person who was there live n is shitting on them lol
what bad weather..
One there was bad weather I’ve heard from many people who are doing videos the air clipping bad in a mechanical failure, backstage for barely pick up their voices or not raising it to you guys to hear it and stop talking trash about them. I’m getting really tired of it.
@@elisa68 you were just being annoying critic that it don’t have to do it on constant basis
My problem is that no one has this same energy for the other girlies who can’t sing, and there’s a lot of them
I get what you mean, but to be fair a lot those groups or idols, aren’t singing several encore stages and aren’t being put on a stage like Coachella. Which makes it a lot easier for some groups, who do have vocal issues, to hide behind auto tune and loud backtracks. So a lot of people aren’t paying attention to them, or aren’t aware
Tbh this all is crazy cuz before their easy comeback their vocals were a nightmare, so i was so fcking scared when i found out they’ll be performing on coachella, but they’ve improved a lot, like, compare their coachella performance to their unforgiven encores.. I definitely wasn’t expecting the hate train; i do acknowledge that before coachella certain members were disappointing (esp kkura cuz shes the one w most experience) but in coachella they really improved as much as a person can within such a short amount of time, there is still room for improvement thats for sure, but “criticizing” them for their coachella performance is crazy cuz there’s literally no way they’d serve amazing vocals in such a short training time, as a multi stan i do have high standards for performances, but they did amazing at coachella.