How to Prevent Knee Pain when Cycling

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  • @BulletproofCycling
    @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад +16

    In this video I discuss knee pain and how to prevent it. This video is part of a series that I am doing. When I uploaded this video I missed off saying goodbye so don't worry, I wasn't being rude. I will make up for it in the next video. 😀

    • @danielnascimento9837
      @danielnascimento9837 2 года назад

      great stuff as always.. can you settle an argument for me.. if you have a more forward set saddle (smaller saddle set back) vs a larger one (further back) - does the forward position increase Quad muscle activation or more glute activation?

  • @user-jo3pt4op5e
    @user-jo3pt4op5e Год назад +2

    This is just an amazing video, so clearly expressed, so empowering to have this information on hand to diagnose one's own issues with knee pain. So many times Coach Scott has with one video opened up a world to me. Previously, he helped me with back pain, just by lowering my saddle. I am very grateful! Coach Scott is someone who sees problems as something that can be solved and addressed, not career ending. Many, many thanks!

  • @SteveBrill
    @SteveBrill 2 года назад +2

    Brilliant! Lots of great advice and logic. Well done Coach.

  • @mhthmusicvideos
    @mhthmusicvideos 2 года назад +6

    Saddle angle is also very important. A professional bike fitter deduced my saddle was angled pointing down too far thus putting undue pressure on my knees to compensate for my weight being further forward which was resulting in significant pain in my right knee. Once she corrected it, the pain instantly went away. There is no question as to the importance of a professional bike fitting for optimal comfort and performance.

  • @thomasbudi2000
    @thomasbudi2000 2 года назад +3

    Thank you coach, from the ligaments of my knees. Your tips stop most of my pain. I wish to enlist your service one day as distance is quite a barrier between us. In the mean time, I will support you with my subscribe and likes

  • @CyclingDoggo
    @CyclingDoggo Год назад +1

    Been lookin' for that knowledge for such a long time and went through so many videos and pages ... thnx !

  • @terrybu2233
    @terrybu2233 2 года назад +2

    Great video, very informative as always,

  • @pwheels76
    @pwheels76 2 года назад +8

    Perfect timing, just finished a bike ride & started getting knee pain just on the outside of my knee ☹ Great information as always.

  • @eddieneville
    @eddieneville 4 месяца назад

    Excellent insight 👍🏻

  • @Alborg83
    @Alborg83 3 месяца назад

    I suffer from knee pain mainly sue to cycling / indoor trainer now. There are so many elements at play it is absolutely mind blowing. It's really not as simple as just jumping on and cycling for an hour or so.

  • @downhilldemi
    @downhilldemi Год назад +1

    finally a video that explains everything so well! :)

  • @nikolaj781
    @nikolaj781 Год назад

    Great video

  • @steveevans7179
    @steveevans7179 2 года назад +3

    Super video Scott. Interesting and informative. My bike fit with you has made a huge difference to my performance and improved my knee issues.

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Steve - very kind of you to say buddy. Hope you enjoyed some of that rare Ayrshire sunshine at the weekend 👍👍👍

  • @AbiShafi
    @AbiShafi 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for that I’m literally waiting for my new Ribble Endurance to be delivered (between 15:00-18:00) this afternoon. If I understand you correctly the important thing to take away is as a starting point have everything set in it’s neutral setting ie in the middle and get the saddle height correct based on your inseam measurement, mine is 68 cms x 0.883 = 60.044 cms (thanks GCN) wearing you cycling shoes and make small adjustments as you go. I’m using SPD’s and have adjusted the cleats as far back as I can and the float is set in the middle as a start even though my feet ‘toe out’ slightly, the cleats just about line up where my toes join the tarsal joint. So I’ll see where that takes me. Brilliant video and thanks again. 😎😎😎

  • @emailForDye
    @emailForDye 2 года назад +8

    So much information to take in within a short period of time. I’m still waiting to move my saddle forward (from your fore/aft) video. I always forget about it just after I’ve jumped on the bike. Thanks for another gem, coach.

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад +1

      Maybe I am trying to put too much into the videos?

    • @emailForDye
      @emailForDye 2 года назад +1

      @@BulletproofCycling no, not at all. It’s a cool format. It is just remembering, if it hurts here, move that way, if it hurts there, move the other way. It just means the old man has to watch the video again, when I am ready to adjust. I just have to determine which applies closest to my case now: discomfort above the knee after 3-4 hours of riding.

    • @gokaygs
      @gokaygs 2 года назад +1

      ​@@BulletproofCycling The more information the better coach, bike fit is a mind blowing deep topic in the beginning but it starts to come together after some time .Great video, I didn't learn anything new on this particular video but confirmed what I already knew and the pains/sensetaions I experienced before. I watched most of the good bike fit videos on RUclips, read books on the subject, got four bike fits and I'm still working on dialing in my position on my bikes. I'm looking to learn and understand more so I can address my rather unique issues which, so far, no one was able able to help with. In short, there are levels of understanding in bike fit and learning new things from your personal experience is much appreciated. If the video has too much goodness to comprehend at once I just watch it over and over again :)

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад +1

      @@gokaygs thanks for sharing. I hope I can help you in your journey. 👍

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад

      @@emailForDye thanks Terry

  • @cloudcatchermedia
    @cloudcatchermedia 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great stuff thank you

  • @derekhobbs1102
    @derekhobbs1102 2 года назад +1

    Finally an explanation of symptom vs cause. Most people don't explain the connections.

  • @ivanmazur9233
    @ivanmazur9233 2 года назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @davidjudd951
    @davidjudd951 Месяц назад

    Had pain behind the knee cap for the first time ever, last night while riding.
    Figured I'd ride it out. But it only got worse and I had to shut it down.
    Thank you for the advice on, "too much too soon" . Barley rode last year at all.
    Finally got on the bike two weeks ago, and at 65, I was feeling great.
    Probably rushed the increase in mileage and exertion due to feeling so good.

  • @100drips
    @100drips 9 месяцев назад +1

    I had to abort a 400 kilometer effort last week because of knee pain. At 270 kilometers the pain became unbearable. Now I try to figure it out to make a new try next year. Thank you for the information.

  • @danielraycre
    @danielraycre 10 дней назад

    Good advice! My seat has been up too high for 6 months (I've been extending my legs almost fully straight), so I'll adjust it lower and see if it solves the knee pain issue.

  • @yiannispapelis8260
    @yiannispapelis8260 2 года назад +12

    Love the videos, but the constant mention of a bake makes me hungry

  • @tommorrisey3999
    @tommorrisey3999 2 года назад +1

    My new Selle Italia saddle has rail markings that indicate the limits of the clamp contacts. When I put the saddle on in the same position as the Amazon cheapie I was replacing, I was outside the limits indicated on the Selle Italia’s rails.
    So, reluctantly, I moved the saddle into the “safe zone” on the rails. And when I did that, my knee pain (which I’d chalked up to old injuries and my age) disappeared..

  • @Dcully
    @Dcully 2 года назад +3

    Great video, look after them knees people.
    I started getting pain on the outside of my right knee, no amount of bike fits could help it.
    12 months or so later it all came to a head and i had to get off the bike for good.
    About 18 months later after numerous failed attempts to get back to riding my two road bikes i decided to try out a mountain bike and ive never looked back since.
    No knee pain at all, its all about the position on the bike, the less agressive position on the mountain bike is key for me, even though my road bikes were setup for endurance and comfort with relaxed geometry.
    Im about 2 years on now and still going on the mountain with little to no knee pain, i do wear a patella strap on this right knee for added reassurance but so far so good.

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад +2

      Awesome 👏 great to hear you found pleasure in mtb and no pain - thanks for sharing Cully 👍👍

  • @lexa5051
    @lexa5051 Год назад +1

    Thanks, Coach Scott. i Built a 2-3 cm larger bike just this week and replicated my set up from my old smaller bike. I moved the saddle 2 cm foreward and changed from 100 to 90 mm stem. My cleat was unchanged and my sAddle height too. Now Im having pain in my left knee at outer side. I wll try lowering the saddle and my cleat 1 cm back. Hope that helps.

    • @lexa5051
      @lexa5051 Год назад

      Or maybe at 50... im sTill grinding hard like a 30 yo. IDK. Maybe will take it easier from now own.😄

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  Год назад

      👍👍👍👍

  • @fethimouhoub4163
    @fethimouhoub4163 2 года назад +1

    Very good explication 👍 can you make a video on middle foot cleats position ❤️

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад

      Will do. Doing a series of weekly bike fit videos at mo 👍👍👍

  • @JDRELGOR
    @JDRELGOR Год назад

    Hi, I was getting sore glutes so I dropped my saddle, I'm now getting pain in my abductors and the outside of my left knee ( possibly due to chiropractor ). I've now dropped my saddle again after checking with a straight leg to pedal with no shoe on.

  • @simonalexandercritchley439
    @simonalexandercritchley439 2 года назад +1

    My knee pain (R) comes from comes from a lot of asymmetry. My right ankle has a fusion from 1985 following injuries the 2 previous years. I have had 6 further surgeries 2015-2018. Further alignments and more fusions/removal of bone etc. My foot angle is set about 20degrees.In order to try to not hit the chainring with my heel I need to keep my knee into the top tube,my knee has a degree of instability. According to MRI the right leg is 15mm shorter than the left,the tibia being 37mm shorter while the femur is 22mm longer due to the K rod that was in there back in the 80's. No wonder there is issues with sciatica (L) as well. I last had a bike fit 20 years ago. I have orthotics and the right shoe is built up. I have lowered the saddle over the years,different shoe /pedal combos and the like . My inseem is 88cm and I am 178cm. Saddle height is 77cm for road and TT,76 cm mtb.Cleats as far back as they will go,saddle centered. Any suggestions ?

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад

      Incredible story. You are amazing to be still cycling. Well done.
      I can’t really offer much help via a message due to the range of issues you mention. One thing that is interesting is that we are very similar height and inside seam but I ride 740mm saddle height.
      Take care

    • @simonalexandercritchley439
      @simonalexandercritchley439 2 года назад

      @@BulletproofCycling Kia ora, I thought you said your inseam was 84 cm ? I have long limbs for my height and a short torso like you.

  • @jackliang6061
    @jackliang6061 2 года назад +1

    I experimented with putting the cleats as far back as possible. Caused knee pain while I never had problems in years.

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад

      I have heard of this happening. I always suggest starting them in this position and then moving and adjusting them. Obviously it works in conjunction of saddle height and how far forward the saddle is. Crank arm length can also play a role in this pain as well. However, I hope u got your knee pain sorted 👍

  •  2 месяца назад

    Good day! Coach, silly question, but you measure the inseam with riding shoes on, might also with the riding trouser or no of them?

  • @eugenetsen579
    @eugenetsen579 2 года назад +2

    I wanna ask.. when measuring your inseam , do you wear your cycling shoes or bare foot?

  • @RyanLimZW
    @RyanLimZW 2 года назад +2

    I fucking love this guy

  • @Firewalkwithme44
    @Firewalkwithme44 10 месяцев назад +1

    this is truly wonderful, thanks a lot. im a runner with an injury (inner ankle thing) never had knee pain running. but started cycling, and what the heck, I have a bakers cyst that pops up right after I do my morning ride...why?! it's so frustrating and now my left knee is tight. currently im cycling at the gym on a Kaiser bike. but I have a real bike on the way with a Swift trainer. any ideas for what I could do with the bike at the gym to help out this left knee thing?

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  9 месяцев назад

      Sometimes it can be your quad strength and hip flexors - your knee may be tracking poorly - stretch quads more and really focus on hip flexors (they are working very differently know compared to running)
      Obviously keep tweaking saddle height as this is often the main reason for knee pain

  • @FreddieB1957
    @FreddieB1957 2 года назад +2

    So if I understand correctly the sadlle to high or to far back causes hamstring trouble. I'm having a lot of trouble with the hamstrings the past years and didn't find a satysfying solution yet. Maybe you have some tips about inwat direction to search for a solution. I like you video's very much, very professional and with a lot of humor.

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад +1

      Yes saddle height can cause hamstring issues.
      Try moving your saddle forward as well and moving your cleats back.
      I would suggest some hamstring exercises off the bike as well as it may be weak. 👍👍👍

    • @FreddieB1957
      @FreddieB1957 2 года назад

      @@BulletproofCycling Thanks for the reply and tips. I was already doing stretch excercises for the hamstrings, they are shortenend caused by the years of cycling and not stretching in the right way. The sadlle a bit lower and more forward I'm going to try, like you said in another topic, on my socs and heel on the pedal/straight leg. I think your youtube channel and your explaining things, with this humor also is great 💪💪😍😍

  • @TFB-chris
    @TFB-chris 11 месяцев назад +1

    I am struggling to find the right height for months. I don´t have and did not have any issues while riding, even if it is 70k in one go, but as soon as I increase the load, for example, trying to do 100k as fast as possible, I get knee pain two days AFTER the ride. Mostly inside or at the front of the knees.
    Maybe it is just overloading, but I am still not happy with it. I already have my cleats as far back, as possible.
    thanks for that video

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for sharing. I hope you get a resolve to the issue

  • @mikkelstensvold4150
    @mikkelstensvold4150 2 года назад +1

    I am experiencing some pain in the front of my knee, its not a big pain, but more of a discomfort. I think it might be because I put too much pressure on my quadriceps and not hamstring (lack of balance between them). It also might be because I just started cycling and im pushing myself too hard.
    Though I feel like getting cycling shoes will help because I cant really utilize my hamstring in normal shoes, since I cant pull upwards, thus my quadriceps are doing almost all of the work.

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад +1

      Just keep on top of stretching your quad daily. This will help the tracking of your knee. Also stretch out your glutes 👍👍👍👍

  • @stevenjara6386
    @stevenjara6386 2 года назад +1

    Just Hit!!! The subscribe button Lad!!🤟🏽😁

  • @tommorrisey3999
    @tommorrisey3999 2 года назад +1

    “You love the struggle: the headwind, the rain ….” I may not fall into the focus population for this discussion.

  • @jakebailey146
    @jakebailey146 2 года назад +1

    What about tightness of the muscles of the inner thigh (eg. sartorius or gracillus) and occasional pain at the area where it attaches to the knee (on inside face of the knee)? I have had a professional bike fit on my road bike and I still get this, but not as bad as I do on my fat bike.

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад

      Hi Jake - thanks for your comments. I would suggest just having a chat with your fitter. Could be just cleat positioning. I am sure you can get it fixed 👍

  • @tarabiketayoPH
    @tarabiketayoPH 2 года назад +2

    hi coach!
    my inseam is 73cm and i am using a 172 crank arm. I feel pain in my left knee, more on the lateral side whenever I ride my bike for 40-50km. How high should my saddle be? Would love to k ow your recommendation.

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад +1

      I can’t give a specific height I am afraid but remember that if you experience lateral pain get to work on your glutes and making sure you are stretching your quads. You can increase that strength and start to pull your knee out of its natural tracking line 👍👍

  • @rosseverest9543
    @rosseverest9543 Год назад

    What about medial knee pain near the pes? Wether it is that or not I don’t no but I’ve got a issue didn’t want to play with my fit but should I?

  • @nova6600
    @nova6600 6 месяцев назад +1

    The info you are here for starts at 4:24

  • @ender4903
    @ender4903 Год назад

    Would you have the same saddle height if your crank arm length was longer? Let's say you have 172,5mm crank arm length. Would you lift your saddle 2.5mm up?

  • @shrinidhipatil335
    @shrinidhipatil335 20 дней назад

    Is it true that saddle hieght must b near your hip bone

  • @oscalcmen
    @oscalcmen 2 года назад +1

    hello, what will be your recommended cleat position if one foot is shorter than the other one?

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад

      Experiment with pulling the cleat on longer foot back further a few mm

    • @oscalcmen
      @oscalcmen 2 года назад

      ​@@BulletproofCycling So, the recommendation will be to set the cleat in the best position for the short foot then adjust the larger foot (cleat back further) until balance (or best comfort) is achieved?
      I was adjusting the shorter instead. I will try your recommendation :) Thank you!!

  • @RonJeffreyRamos
    @RonJeffreyRamos 2 года назад +1

    hey coach, i have been struggling with a knee pain beneath my knee cap. and i think it is a Runner's knee based from its symptoms. do you have any tips to recover from these? and how can it be avoid in the future.

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад +2

      Easiest answer is rest and let the inflammation pass.
      Maybe then check your shoe support in terms of your foot striking action.
      Then increase your foot stability drills to increase your nervous control around your foot strike 👍
      Then add some quad strength drills to your routine (basic body squats are fine to start with)
      Hope it helps 👍👍👍

    • @RonJeffreyRamos
      @RonJeffreyRamos 2 года назад +1

      @@BulletproofCycling Thank you very much coach! :D

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад

      @@RonJeffreyRamos 🙏🙏🙏

    • @ryand141
      @ryand141 2 года назад

      Sometimes it's saddle position but most times cycling too far too soon or not stretching imo.

  • @adii53
    @adii53 5 месяцев назад +2

    Hi sir , please help me , i am using my cycle with low saddle height for almost 6-7 months and now i have realised it , i have knee pain and my knee sounds too while wlaking or exercise, how can i heal it ... Please help i am too tensed about it

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  5 месяцев назад

      You may need to stay off bike for a week to 10 days to rest your knee and reduce inflammation. Set seat to correct height and start with 20-30 min gentle spins

  • @noelsamson8624
    @noelsamson8624 2 года назад +1

    Hi coach. I'm having pain at the back of my left knee when spinning high cadence. But no pain on low cadence. What could be the cause coach?

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад +1

      Hi Noel - it could be the high cadence and light gear doesn’t have enough torque and you have some collapsing over the top of the stroke. Generally most of us do and it’s a stability issue. If this drill at high cadence is part of your training then I would just dial it down a bit as your nervous control is struggling and maybe you are exerting too much load on the hamstring. What is termed the hamstring insertion (moving part) is located there. Cadence is more a natural thing based on fitness and muscle fibre type. It will increase with fitness and experience but don’t overly worry about a magic number 👍👍👍

    • @noelsamson8624
      @noelsamson8624 2 года назад +1

      Thank you so much for your response coach. I'll take note this. More power to you.

  • @LadaSchrapnell
    @LadaSchrapnell Год назад +1

    Many thanks for the video ☺️ Greetings from Ukraine!)

  • @garybunting3035
    @garybunting3035 2 года назад +1

    As a once able bodied cyclists who now has nerve and muscle damage from an accident (no right gluteal muscle and sciatic nerve damage with drop foot) I'd love to get a proper bike fit......or just get a new leg 🤣🤣

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад

      Hey Gary sorry to hear this but love your sense of humour.
      I actually work with a rider who has severe nerve damage from a crash. Has a few para events coming up - hard as nails rider 👍👍👍👍

  • @egg002
    @egg002 Год назад +1

    hi, i have knee pain when riding my bike since i started using it to commute to work. could it be that it’s just the sudden change from no bike riding for years to every day? and if yes, will this go away?

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  Год назад +1

      It could be but if only happening on the bike then try and adjust your saddle height a little as your flexibility and strength will have changed over the years

    • @egg002
      @egg002 Год назад

      @@BulletproofCycling i will! thank you

  • @mrx1979ua
    @mrx1979ua 5 месяцев назад +2

    I wish I could could get a bike fit with you. May be I'd get the knee issue solved :) And TY for supporting Ukraine!

  • @georgietheoldfaq
    @georgietheoldfaq 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for supporting Ukraine!

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  10 месяцев назад

      👍👍

    • @georgietheoldfaq
      @georgietheoldfaq 10 месяцев назад

      What would be your suggestion to my case: if i move the saddle higher, my knee pain goes away instantly. However my hips start rocking a little (

  • @pattipolvi512
    @pattipolvi512 2 месяца назад

    what is this baking?

  • @stuartmclean3843
    @stuartmclean3843 Год назад

    According to Doctor Google i apparently have a torn meniscus in my left knee

  • @DISCOhooch
    @DISCOhooch 2 года назад +6

    Omg i am from Ukraine. Thank you for support

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад +2

      I am so honoured that you have seen my video. My respect and love for your country is huge. Please stay safe.

    • @DISCOhooch
      @DISCOhooch 2 года назад +2

      @@BulletproofCycling Thanks.

    • @Furkan-vm5nt
      @Furkan-vm5nt 2 года назад +2

      Our heart with you always , Freedom Ukrain 🇺🇦💛💙

    • @DISCOhooch
      @DISCOhooch 2 года назад +1

      @@Furkan-vm5nt Thank you.

  • @user-jf3tr9io6n
    @user-jf3tr9io6n 2 года назад +1

    great video! thx for supporting Ukraine! 🇺🇦

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  2 года назад +1

      My pleasure ❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇺🇦 🇬🇧

  • @markhall6026
    @markhall6026 Год назад

    My feet are clever but my knees are Thick.

  • @wasupwitdat1mofiki94
    @wasupwitdat1mofiki94 2 года назад +1

    I solved my knee issues when I quit wear a helmet. No joke, I can't explain it but it worked. 👍

  • @alexkreyn315
    @alexkreyn315 11 месяцев назад +1

    What accent is that?

    • @BulletproofCycling
      @BulletproofCycling  11 месяцев назад

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  • @Jarek.
    @Jarek. 2 года назад +1

    🇺🇦👍