I think the reason Arven was such a threat was because people looking to explore the most effectively focused on getting the Titans out of the way first and then you go to wrap up the storyline and you're hit with level 60s with great coverage.
Yeah I just fought him after koing dozogiri becuz he's impatient and I didn't want to keep him waiting. I got swept twice, but Tinkaton helped a ton by defeating the 2 hardest things to take down (and is surprisingly faster than the rock golem despite being underleveled)
The hardest battle in Pokémon Scarlet and Violet is against Champion Geeta. I mean she thinks so outside the box. She sent out her Toxic Spikes setters last. That is a genius move. It totally caught us off guard.
No matter how many times I’ve played through Violet, I’ve always struggled in the final battle against Arven. I barely defeated him the first time around.
His Toedscruel was the most annoying to deal with, it can spore and put to sleep your whole team ignoring abilities that prevent powder moves or sleep, unless you have a grass type.
Hassel's Elite Four battle gave me the most trouble. Even though I was prepared, his Baxcalibur nearly wiped out my entire team, including my own Baxcalibur.
arven and eri are my top 2 fave characters in the game respectively and coincidentally they were also literally the only major trainers who gave me a bit of challenge (though that's not the reason why they are my faves) and granted that i was 10 levels below when challenging them, but it made those battles 10x more fun for me like i was so full of adrenaline battling them and i never felt anything like that in pokemon battles in a while with the exception of volo
For me the ones I struggled the most against were Atticus, Eri and Arven. Yes surprisingly Atticus, my mons were underleveled and he just swept my entire team. Changed my approach and I defeated him by a very close margin, I really sweated it up there
Me personally I had a hard time with the fighting one Eri her main team was fine but her car THE CAR was the biggest problem with its ability and moves I had to stall so long luckily after a couple of tries I defeated her but honestly that was the hardest battle in the game
As for me, i was gonna sweep her in my first try with my Ceruledge but it took me two tries because her Lucario outsped and koed me. Plus I was underleveled so it was awesome
I just finished. 1st try I flip flopped around my team and lost. Second round I just tera-ed Skeledirge and poured my trust in it, and it burned the whole team down,car included
She was the first and only one to give me an L in this game. Also didn't help that my team were purely physical attackers either, so her Starmobile was literally eating that up
Sada was the only trainer I lost to in the game. And it was mainly because of that the fact I had no idea what to expect with the Paradox Pokemon she was using. What they were based off and typings. Plus my team was a bit underleveled
Clavell got slept on again. He's the only battle in the game to have defeated me twice in a row, before that the only boss that had actually wiped my team was Mela and that was because she was my first Team Star fight and I had no clue how strong those Starmobiles were gonna be. But Clavell, specifically his Quaquaval since I chose Fuecoco, swept my team with Aqua Step and Ice Spinner and imo he deserves more recognition.
This is a fascinating point to me! I can definitely see how hard that fight is if you pick Fuecoco. When I play RPGs I have an obsession with keeping all my party members within 1 level of eachother but after the Geeta and Nemona battles my Quaquaval was my highest level Pokemon by 3 levels. That thing is an absolute monster with a perfect movepool for an in-game playthrough and Torrent+Aqua Step is an insane sweeping setup, especially with Muscle Band being such an easy and early get in SV. Skeledirge is unquestionably the optimal starter for this game if you do the speed EV training + choice scarf+ Torch Song strat, but if you're more casual like me and don't wanna EV train an in-game team, then I think Quaquaval is the best starter for that kind of playthrough because HP, Def, and SpDef EVs are just as valuable on the dancing duck as Attack and Speed are. Sorry for nerding out, I just really like these games while also still being disappointed with the performance issues. I hope they manage to fix this game so that in a few years the perception of it will change for the better, and at the same time I hope future Pokemon games don't get released in the same state as SV.
Yeah clavell was down to the wire for me, I lost my Skeledirge, talonflame (to sleep), Garg and jumpluff to him, but eventually prevailed by clodsire yawning the duck and poison jabbing it.
I also agree the version professor battle was the toughest not only for the paradox Pokémon but the legendary versus legendary battle that immediately followed which wasn’t obvious on what to do at first
@@Cyrovolt I got lucky enough to have a miraculous bonding save to prevent my koraidon from getting KO’d and I didn’t want to chance it so I healed it before terastalizing but other than that it’s next to impossible to lose provided you live long enough to terastalize and have Tera blast become dragon type
Honestly I'll have to go back and try it again with lower level mons, but the ghost gym was a cakewalk because of two words: Dondozo/Tatsugiri. I ignored the Mimikyu and concentrated on taking out the other pokemon with Order Up, constantly raising my stats while dealing neutral damage. Meanwhile, as a water type, her Toxtricity used overdrive right out of the gate...which also hit the Mimikyu, breaking it's disguise. Since I had been massively boosted by that point, I survived the supereffective attack and one-shot the Tox. Even if the Dondozo had ended up dying, it had so much hp and defense, even before the Tatsugiri buffs, that I could finish off half her team before going down.
Honestly surprised to see Ryme on a list like this since the crowd gives you lots of free stat boosts. I personally just swept her team with Skeledirge and Annihilape. Even being weak to ghost they just tanked the shadow sneaks and one shot everything except Mimikyu do to disguise. Iono was definitely tricky especially at that point. Mismagius with no weaknesses is pretty scary when most of your team isn't fully evolved.
Once I found out that Arven's goal was to heal Mabosstiff I prioritized doing the titan story which led to me being underleveled and not able to beat his team. I ended up doing the other quests to level up, leaving Arven at the lighthouse for a while.
@@HeyyHeyyHeyy08 I know what you were talking about. I was making a joke because S&V has so few side content apart from the 3 main story lines. A little sad.
Good list! Personally didn't have trouble with most of this list, BUT Eri, Arven, and Sada almost wrecked me! Had to break out ol reliable, Skeledirge 😆
Mystic: says Mimikyu will get at least one thing off because of Disguise My Tinkaton with Mold Breaker taking it out with one Gigaton Hammer: "I missed the part where that's my problem."
3:09 Oho! Yeah, that’s definitely a problem, when it’s used against you. Still, Aqua Tail is (to me) less threatening than Waterfall, and it doesn’t have Aqua Jet. So, it’s not all bad. 5:17 I definitely agree here. For a third Gym Leader, she’s very much like Whitney and Platinum Fantina: a big difficulty spike for the unprepared. Especially her ace Mismagius, which suddenly becomes an homage to Ghetsis’ Eelektross, minus the ludicrous coverage. Now, if you’re prepared, then you’ll be fine. But I predict that a number of Nuzlockes and Monotype runs will struggle with her. 5:38 Thank goodness for Colosseum and XD, for giving us all practice with the format.
I love how the top 3 were the ones I struggled the least on 😂 My team was just Fairy and Grass types, with a Glimmora, I struggled on the Fire Revaroom and Eri
I had no difficulties to battle Team star BUT Geeta was a bit hard. It took me, no joke, 6 times before i could defeat her. Her Glimora was diffciult to defeat even if my pokemons were more than level 60. Beside her, defeating Clavel and all the gym leaders was easy. Honestly, i had more rough time beating Ghetis is Black 2 and Cynthia in Pokemon Diamond than any gym leaders in Violet. Ghetis and N took me 8 times to defeat but i was so fun winning against them plus N became friend with my trainer. His development was well done, his love for pokemon was cute and his past was sad. One of the best trainers in this franchise 🙂
I have to give props to the game devs for making the Team Star Bosses a challenging fight. Eri’s team almost swept though my squad until I had to use my Armarouge and defeat her starmobile
In Scarlet my team was around level 45 or so. I managed to beat Arven. It took time and lots of Intimdates on his Mabostiff. I had an mono fire team. After that I was good after doing more training.
Fun fact: Arvens team is countered pretty well by orthworm of all things. Most of his team barring scovillain uses physical attacks. So set up a couple iron defenses and sweep his team with body press (though you may want a berry to deal with Scovillains fire blast)
Um…I kinda overleveled my team for each battle, so I technically had no problem with any opponent. Though the #1 choice was a bit of a task, especially the strongest of the team.
i loved the turo battle i almost lost on my first attempt because i wasn't aware iron valiant was fairy type (i used dragon darts) so i had to do some revive stuff to clutch it
If I were to rank hardest trainer battles in SV, I'd go like this: 10) Atticus - Poison/Dark and Poison/Steel type Pokémon are incredibly good at that point. 09) Brassius - STAB Rock type move from Sudowoodo covers all the major grass type weaknesses (except poison). This is especially challenging because he's just the second gym leader. 08) Poppy - That team is definitely really good; the only reason she's low is because two starters have super-effective stab moves against steel types. 07) Iono - Her Ace has levitate and charge beam, and after terastralisation, it literally has no weakness. She was definitely going to be in this list. 06) Geeta - Okay, I know this is a weird pick, but the reason she is here is because her Espathra can be deadly if you are blindly setting up like most players do in Pokemon games. Plus, body press from Avalugg, bulk up + horn leech from Gogoat (if timed well), and the supreme overload Kingambit can be mildly troublesome. Finally, Double Power Tera Blast (because Glimmora has terastrallised into a rock type) from 130 Special Attack (higher than hydreigon) hits brutally hard. Even though Gigaton Hammer and Glaive Rush from Poppy's and Hassle's aces will hit harder, this is a dual STAB Rock type move, one of the best offensive types, and hence this should be taken into consideration. These are my reasons for ranking her this high. The only reason she's not higher is what we all know; not using her team optimally. 5) Larry (Elite 4) - An underrated obstacle. His first four Pokemon are okay but his Flamingo is a monster. What can actually survive a high roll (or a crit in the worst scenario) from a double power brave bird? Rock and Steel Types? Defensively bulky ground types? Yeah no, this Flamingo has STAB Close Combat and Liquidation for coverage. Without a fast electric type or a really bulky Pokemon like Garganacl, this thing is gonna do some serious damage. 4) Hassle from Academy Ace Tournament - he explained already. Also 4) Clavell - His team is no joke. 3) Eri - Annihilape with Rage Fist is already a notoriously Pokemon to go up against, but the description of Caph Starmobile is what ultimately pushes her this high. 2) Nemona (Champion Battle) - This is the average difficulty and the average team composition of a Champion; Stealth Rocks, Double Shock, Coil Dudunsparce, and a pseudo legendary. 1) Sada and Turo - This had to top.
Arven is the only story trainer I’ve ever struggled with in a very long time. And it was mainly because my team was 25-30 levels lower than his. And I didn’t know what type Scovillan was and I kinda wanted to do it without looking things up. Once I got in the 15 levels lower I ended tying with him, which is a loss, because I had life orb on my annilihape and he took down doggo and died due to life orb. But trained more of the other Pokémon to be around 15 lower and then just destroyed him. I can see Ortega being hard, but not really. And then the rest is cake. Penny surprised me with her Jolteon. I am use to Jolteon leaning heavy into its attack stat, so when thunder came out it shocked me, but aside from that still easy.
I found Ryme fairly easy, though that may have been at least partly because I'd levelled my pokémon up quite a lot. The hardest gym leader for me was Tulip.
The Battle you have with Nemona after becoming champion was the first time my team got wiped out on the first try. I tried again, and barely won and only because my Lokix came in super clutch against her Skeledirge, since Throat Chop stopped it from using Torch Song...
Fun fact the only battle I ever lost in scarlet/violet was Iono and it was literally because of an unlucky crit…. Spoiler alert the professor battles Ace can be countered with a gardevoir, yes even Iron Valiant, it’s part fighting
I think Eri was the trainer I struggled most with, she managed to KO most of my team, even with super effective moves on my side, and I was left with just two Pokemon at the end, one of which I had to use a max revive on. She was the only trainer I was really caught off guard by aside from Professor Turo for the obvious reasons.
I really struggled against Eri and Tulip, the latter because I was vastly underleveled and the former because I just didn't have the right team. I had relatively little trouble with the Elite Four but Hassel did take me down the first time before I tweaked my team to counter his dragons.
I struggled badly and almost lost the Gym battle to Larry but thanks to Garganacl I pulled it off but the hardest two battles are the Fighting type Team Star boss and the AI Sada battle.
If you're reading this Mystic Umbreon I had no problems with the other half of the hardest battles, but I only lost to Arven I defeated the game around new years day. I bought Scarlet on the day after Christmas, my aces are Lucario and Annihilape and Tyranitar. The big 3 in my opinion. Annihilape of mine can easily tank and so can my Lucario.
Raven was my biggest struggle because I was underleveled when I got to him, so I went off to do the other battles, even become champion, then came back to beat him, and he even managed to faint some of my team. I didn’t struggle agains the Elite 4, Geeta or the Star team members. Just Arven
Eri's both one of my favorite characters and was very tough doing a Dark only Challenge. And the Final Boss one still did give me trouble despite being ~lvl 72.
I was destroyed by Eri 3 freaking times. The only pokémon that i have that was strong against her team was Tinkaton, thats also not very good defensife against her. And that Revavroom of her with +6 everywhere was invinceble.
Hardest battles are the Star Leaders since they’re normal boss fights and end it with super strong Pokémon who have enough bulk you can’t stop their set up. Hardest regular fight is Ryme. Dual gyms are confusing, and she can stall you really well.
The hardest gym for me was the grass one. The grass type Sudowoodo that could still uses Rock Throw to counter grass weaknesses and trailblazer to speed up was trouble for my early team. The hardest star team leader for me was the poison one. I didn't have many ground or psychic attacks at the time.
E4 Larry probably gave me the toughest fight in ScVi, but that being said, I entirely understand it's solely on my team. I did not have a good counter specifically to fast flying types with fighting move coverage. If it was just Flying types, I had Ice and Rock, bit those are exactly what Fighting is good against, and they're slow, so they'd take a hit first before I could attack. I had stuff strong against Fighting types, but that wasn't the damage I needed to deal. Had I kept my Belibolt from the journey on my E4 team, it likely wouldn't have been as bad. That or if my Tatsugiri hadn't missed 2 Draco Meteors in a row when I just tried the nuke strat.
In Scarlet I only lost 2 battles: first against Eri, her Annihilape wiped basically my entire team. Second against Sada, whose Roaring Moon proved too much first time around. Got lucky on second, though. Gardie survived just enough to 1-hit KO with Moonblast. Some other difficult ones I was either over-leveled or barely lucked out. In Violet, I've had a bit worse. Haven't made it to Ortega and Eri, False dragon, nor Glaseado mountain gyms yet, but lost against Mela (because of poor team build-up) and twice against Tulip (because underleveled and poor team setup).
The only fight I struggled with was Clavell, since he had Quaquaval for me, and that thing was doing some damage sweeping my team with Aqua Step. On the flipside, Poppy being here at all was laughable to me because I had Skeledirge and that plus Torch Song equals “Magnezone is the only survivor and only because of Sturdy.”
The elite four member that gave me the most trouble was Hassel. It was the only battle in the elite four that i didnt have coverage for. The baxcalibur just out sped my whole team and one tapped them all.
Honestly poppy was the easiest elite 4 for me. Managed to sweep her with a garganacl. Salt cures increased damage combined with iron defence and body press made it real easy.
My only question is how does Mystic literally ALWAYS have a whole video to talk about literally just Pokémon? I respect the hell out of that ability because I would definitely run out of things to talk about. Haha.
Honorable mention goes the Larry gym team. I got whited out and had to evolved my Skeledirge and talonflame allyne way, as even with my higher levelled Espathra and Coalossal, he still decimated me. Oh and mela becuz u went in underleveled and the car was annoying to deal witj
Honestly, the hardest fights for me were as follows: Brassius, surprisingly, takes the first spot. Not because he's tough specifically, but because at the point you first fight him, that sudowoodo is just plain mean and punishes you hard for taking advantage of its tera typing. And again at that point, you're probably going to be somewhat limited in good answers if you're not powerleveling. Grusha was also painful to battle. In spite of Ice's fragile nature, he has quite a few physically bulky mons on his team... And I, due to some unfortunate coincidences, happened to have a team heavy on physical attacks. I still won, but it was enough to make the battle harder than it should have been. Special mention to Geeta, who gave me a loss for much the same reason. Carved through most of her team no trouble, but Kingambit's physical defenses stopped me cold even with type advantage... And unfortunately he was boosted by his fallen teammates to hit back hard in return. Arven also gave me more trouble than he should have, primarily because of Mabosstif. That actually was quite a nasty bit of coverage with its attacks, and I had to try and bait the AI into using certain ones for safe switches during the match. Finally... While not the "hardest" match, Turo was definitely my closest fight, literally coming down to our last pokemon each. A fitting finish to what was supposed to be the most climactic opponent of the game. Also, fun note... Ryme was my easiest fight, specifically because it was a double battle lol
Tbh fighting to mabustiff after that story line is quite hard it's like do I want to murder this with my lucario and most speed through it because of how heart warming it is to then faced with level 60 mons
I was in love with TinkaTon So Ortega was a breeze with the Hammer. And Ryme? Lol laughs in Meowscarada But the lil Steel girl, yea she got me, i was NOT prepared, And that Belibolt messed me up to the point i was NOT ready for that Mismagious. And Eri that attack boost with that Revaroom damn that was unexpected.
Since I was an overachiever and didn't do anything story wise until my team was all level 60, I steamrolled through everything until I got to Eri who nearly wiped me. The final boss also nearly got me.
I'm surprised at the difficulty posed by this gen. Of course it has to do with the area level gap and the order you choose to do things, but I am very happy that it is once again possible to get wiped by a gym leader due to being under levelled.
I still find it hilarious that the first time I fought Eri, I thought that the Star Mobile was Poison-Steel, not pure Fighting because this was the first Team Star base I raided. As a result, I got swept due to type confusion, the Star Mobile’s Shift Gear move, and its Stamina ability. I came back for a second attempt and beat it with good ol’ Gardy, but the first attempt was definitely a shock. Might I add that in the second fight against Arven, by some miracle I managed to win on the first attempt despite being a whopping 11 LEVELS underleved. 😂😂😂
In my second play through the water gyms crab hammer kept one shoting my team, I was revive cycling forever. But I didn’t have any particular counter to water types and I may have been a little under leveled
Funny enough i don't recall blacking out in any of my fights in my first playthrough but i remember always getting very close to losing due to my team going all out. Potions helped but still.
Honestly, Turo's team is a threat even with a team as type diverse as the one I have. Each of the Paradox have different weaknesses and my team didn't exactly cover my weakness to poison type.
the only things i struggle with was the great tusk, sada, and grusha because he was my third gym battle. i had became super overleveled after trying to complete the dex as fast as possible because i wanted to see everything
Eri was the hardest for me, I often have dark types on my team and I like to try to keep one team through the whole game. Fighting is often a weakness for me as a player, I was expecting her to be as pain. But that annilape wrecked me over and over. Any answers I had for her fighting such as my Gardivor or Clodsire toxic stall, etc. if I got through her Annilape then her Vroom finished my team off. I ended up beating her with my gravehound and the super broken move last respects.
My freshly added Brambleghast annihilated the Dondozo+Tatsugiri fight. Grass Knot was very effectivs vs Dondozo and the fact Tatsugiri tried to use Ice Wind which activated Wind Rider did not help the Sushi mon.
The hardest fights for me were Rika and Arven. Arven’s team is legit a great team if you’re not prepared. And Rika’s team is tricky to counter sometimes.
For me I only had trouble with one character in the game so far and that was number 7 because I was a little under leveled but with a lot of revives and hyper and Max potions I was able to defeat him😓
Iono and Eri battles are undoubtedly the hardest ones in entire game (Violet in my case). Mismagius have almost NO WEAKNESSES if you don't have an ability-changing move, and Eri's Revavroom... IT'S FREAKING CHEESY As for Ryme, I didn't find this battle hard. Have Annihilape and a good Dark-type mon, and you're victorious
I feel bad for Poppy first time around in the Elite 4. I overleveled my Meowscarada to 80💀 because I thought it was gonna hurt badly like it did for me in Pokemon Platinum. Turns out, while worth it, was not necessary and completely overkill
I havent had a chance to struggle against any trainer so far....by the time i reached the 4th gym I had pokemon over level 60. I was having too much fun exploring and battling wild pokemon instead of doing the story that I was super overlvled for every major fight.
I had trouble with alot of the battles, but the only ones I had failed was when I tried to rush Kofu at game start (level scaling test) and professor purple what's his name
I curb stomped Rhyme and Dondozo. Rhyme perished because my team consisted of almost exclusively dark and ghost types. Then Dondozo crumbled because of Flower Trick and an angry Tinkaton.
I think the reason Arven was such a threat was because people looking to explore the most effectively focused on getting the Titans out of the way first and then you go to wrap up the storyline and you're hit with level 60s with great coverage.
Salt Cure Naclstack can only carry so much weight.
Yeah I just fought him after koing dozogiri becuz he's impatient and I didn't want to keep him waiting. I got swept twice, but Tinkaton helped a ton by defeating the 2 hardest things to take down (and is surprisingly faster than the rock golem despite being underleveled)
I forgot what dark type tera was 🤣 so I lost a mon thanks to that and then It was easy
Thats my story with that.
I still don't remember how I managed to beat him after 30 whole minutes of pain and suffering
I want to give an honourable mention to Director Clavell's fight. Was imo the hardest of the "end of story" battles
Yeah, I was surprised that didn't make the list. How was the sandwich kid harder than him?
Dendra and Jaqc are also very tough too
I agree, I didn't see it coming on my first play through. His team is significantly better than the champion's team lol.
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Yeah,I had a harder time with him than arven or penny (but to be fair penny is super easy to counter!)
The hardest battle in Pokémon Scarlet and Violet is against Champion Geeta. I mean she thinks so outside the box. She sent out her Toxic Spikes setters last. That is a genius move. It totally caught us off guard.
Why the hell doesn’t this have more likes? This got me laughing so hard. xD
@@DarkKnight-q2d they probably took it too seriously 😂
Literally using the hazards stacker as her ace, truly thinking outside of the box this one
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There were so many characters in the game who were harder than Greta.
No matter how many times I’ve played through Violet, I’ve always struggled in the final battle against Arven. I barely defeated him the first time around.
His Toedscruel was the most annoying to deal with, it can spore and put to sleep your whole team ignoring abilities that prevent powder moves or sleep, unless you have a grass type.
I barely struggle there too
@@kaiserberserk3622I used jumpluff against it.
@@gabrielchee8470 I used Meowscarada
I was very surprised when his Mabosstiff had play rough
Hassel's Elite Four battle gave me the most trouble. Even though I was prepared, his Baxcalibur nearly wiped out my entire team, including my own Baxcalibur.
Iono was a war of attrition with her Mismagius the first time
Ryme was probably the hardest for me since I didn't truly prepare myself for her
I had a much tougher time against Hassel than the actual champion.
@@BladeEdge86 La Primera was a joke
I had a tougher time against Wallace in Emerald
@@ThexZeldaxChampx90 Wallace was definitely easier for me, but the sad part is not by much.
@@ThexZeldaxChampx90ryme rematch could be challenging but the boost mechanic ruins it
arven and eri are my top 2 fave characters in the game respectively and coincidentally they were also literally the only major trainers who gave me a bit of challenge (though that's not the reason why they are my faves) and granted that i was 10 levels below when challenging them, but it made those battles 10x more fun for me like i was so full of adrenaline battling them and i never felt anything like that in pokemon battles in a while with the exception of volo
For me the ones I struggled the most against were Atticus, Eri and Arven. Yes surprisingly Atticus, my mons were underleveled and he just swept my entire team. Changed my approach and I defeated him by a very close margin, I really sweated it up there
Eri is the toughest of the team star leaders, it took a lot of grinding for me to stand a chance and I wasn't even under leveled.
Me personally I had a hard time with the fighting one Eri her main team was fine but her car THE CAR was the biggest problem with its ability and moves I had to stall so long luckily after a couple of tries I defeated her but honestly that was the hardest battle in the game
The poison type boss was pure hell for me
As for me, i was gonna sweep her in my first try with my Ceruledge but it took me two tries because her Lucario outsped and koed me. Plus I was underleveled so it was awesome
I just finished. 1st try I flip flopped around my team and lost. Second round I just tera-ed Skeledirge and poured my trust in it, and it burned the whole team down,car included
Same.
She was the first and only one to give me an L in this game. Also didn't help that my team were purely physical attackers either, so her Starmobile was literally eating that up
Sada was the only trainer I lost to in the game. And it was mainly because of that the fact I had no idea what to expect with the Paradox Pokemon she was using. What they were based off and typings. Plus my team was a bit underleveled
Asked my sis to help me against Turo bc he destroyed my team once and I had no idea what to do. In the end, we defeated him.
Clavell got slept on again. He's the only battle in the game to have defeated me twice in a row, before that the only boss that had actually wiped my team was Mela and that was because she was my first Team Star fight and I had no clue how strong those Starmobiles were gonna be. But Clavell, specifically his Quaquaval since I chose Fuecoco, swept my team with Aqua Step and Ice Spinner and imo he deserves more recognition.
Exactly, that's how he sweeped my team too. My Garchomp was the last mon but Quaquaval was too fast and I had to reset.
I beat his team even though only two of my mons were the right level to face him
This is a fascinating point to me! I can definitely see how hard that fight is if you pick Fuecoco. When I play RPGs I have an obsession with keeping all my party members within 1 level of eachother but after the Geeta and Nemona battles my Quaquaval was my highest level Pokemon by 3 levels. That thing is an absolute monster with a perfect movepool for an in-game playthrough and Torrent+Aqua Step is an insane sweeping setup, especially with Muscle Band being such an easy and early get in SV. Skeledirge is unquestionably the optimal starter for this game if you do the speed EV training + choice scarf+ Torch Song strat, but if you're more casual like me and don't wanna EV train an in-game team, then I think Quaquaval is the best starter for that kind of playthrough because HP, Def, and SpDef EVs are just as valuable on the dancing duck as Attack and Speed are.
Sorry for nerding out, I just really like these games while also still being disappointed with the performance issues. I hope they manage to fix this game so that in a few years the perception of it will change for the better, and at the same time I hope future Pokemon games don't get released in the same state as SV.
Yeah clavell was down to the wire for me, I lost my Skeledirge, talonflame (to sleep), Garg and jumpluff to him, but eventually prevailed by clodsire yawning the duck and poison jabbing it.
Mela caught me off guard as well, once I was properly leveled though she wasn't much of a problem.
I also agree the version professor battle was the toughest not only for the paradox Pokémon but the legendary versus legendary battle that immediately followed which wasn’t obvious on what to do at first
Isn’t that legendary battle impossible to lose?
@@Cyrovolt I got lucky enough to have a miraculous bonding save to prevent my koraidon from getting KO’d and I didn’t want to chance it so I healed it before terastalizing but other than that it’s next to impossible to lose provided you live long enough to terastalize and have Tera blast become dragon type
@@Cyrovolt i think i Saw a video of someone trying to do everithing wrong and the game forced him to what was planned.
Honestly I'll have to go back and try it again with lower level mons, but the ghost gym was a cakewalk because of two words: Dondozo/Tatsugiri. I ignored the Mimikyu and concentrated on taking out the other pokemon with Order Up, constantly raising my stats while dealing neutral damage. Meanwhile, as a water type, her Toxtricity used overdrive right out of the gate...which also hit the Mimikyu, breaking it's disguise. Since I had been massively boosted by that point, I survived the supereffective attack and one-shot the Tox.
Even if the Dondozo had ended up dying, it had so much hp and defense, even before the Tatsugiri buffs, that I could finish off half her team before going down.
Honestly surprised to see Ryme on a list like this since the crowd gives you lots of free stat boosts. I personally just swept her team with Skeledirge and Annihilape. Even being weak to ghost they just tanked the shadow sneaks and one shot everything except Mimikyu do to disguise.
Iono was definitely tricky especially at that point. Mismagius with no weaknesses is pretty scary when most of your team isn't fully evolved.
She has a well put together team and the only double battle, so I think she has a place.
Not as much as Clive though, who got cheated.
Once I found out that Arven's goal was to heal Mabosstiff I prioritized doing the titan story which led to me being underleveled and not able to beat his team. I ended up doing the other quests to level up, leaving Arven at the lighthouse for a while.
Bro, Scarlet and Violet has Quests? What sourcery is this!?
@@leargamma4912 hahahahaha cant think of the right word. Other missions? Other storylines? Hahaha
@@HeyyHeyyHeyy08 I know what you were talking about. I was making a joke because S&V has so few side content apart from the 3 main story lines. A little sad.
The ones giving me trouble were Rika, Kofu and Larry's normal team. The first two because of Type advantages.
Good list! Personally didn't have trouble with most of this list, BUT Eri, Arven, and Sada almost wrecked me! Had to break out ol reliable, Skeledirge 😆
This was a great video the Proffesor, Nemona, Arven and Iono were the most difficult in my opinion
Mystic: says Mimikyu will get at least one thing off because of Disguise
My Tinkaton with Mold Breaker taking it out with one Gigaton Hammer: "I missed the part where that's my problem."
3:09 Oho! Yeah, that’s definitely a problem, when it’s used against you. Still, Aqua Tail is (to me) less threatening than Waterfall, and it doesn’t have Aqua Jet. So, it’s not all bad.
5:17 I definitely agree here. For a third Gym Leader, she’s very much like Whitney and Platinum Fantina: a big difficulty spike for the unprepared. Especially her ace Mismagius, which suddenly becomes an homage to Ghetsis’ Eelektross, minus the ludicrous coverage. Now, if you’re prepared, then you’ll be fine. But I predict that a number of Nuzlockes and Monotype runs will struggle with her.
5:38 Thank goodness for Colosseum and XD, for giving us all practice with the format.
I love how the top 3 were the ones I struggled the least on 😂 My team was just Fairy and Grass types, with a Glimmora, I struggled on the Fire Revaroom and Eri
I had no difficulties to battle Team star BUT Geeta was a bit hard. It took me, no joke, 6 times before i could defeat her. Her Glimora was diffciult to defeat even if my pokemons were more than level 60. Beside her, defeating Clavel and all the gym leaders was easy.
Honestly, i had more rough time beating Ghetis is Black 2 and Cynthia in Pokemon Diamond than any gym leaders in Violet. Ghetis and N took me 8 times to defeat but i was so fun winning against them plus N became friend with my trainer. His development was well done, his love for pokemon was cute and his past was sad. One of the best trainers in this franchise 🙂
I believe the Hardest Battles for me was
First Iono Fight
Ryme's Rematch
Dondozo Titan
Mela (I didn't have a Water Type)
I've never actually played them yet, but I can understand how difficult each of these battles could be.
No Atticus, that's insane
I have to give props to the game devs for making the Team Star Bosses a challenging fight. Eri’s team almost swept though my squad until I had to use my Armarouge and defeat her starmobile
I think most are underleveled when fighting Arven. You can beat the last Titan around 55, then he breaks out level 60 pokemon.
In Scarlet my team was around level 45 or so. I managed to beat Arven. It took time and lots of Intimdates on his Mabostiff. I had an mono fire team. After that I was good after doing more training.
Definitely agree not knowing Toros pokemom typings gave me so trouble for sure.
Fun fact: Arvens team is countered pretty well by orthworm of all things. Most of his team barring scovillain uses physical attacks. So set up a couple iron defenses and sweep his team with body press (though you may want a berry to deal with Scovillains fire blast)
Um…I kinda overleveled my team for each battle, so I technically had no problem with any opponent. Though the #1 choice was a bit of a task, especially the strongest of the team.
i loved the turo battle
i almost lost on my first attempt because i wasn't aware iron valiant was fairy type (i used dragon darts) so i had to do some revive stuff to clutch it
I’m honestly surprised that I didn’t lose to some of these battles in my playthrough of Scarlet.
I do agree about what No. 1 is, I did had a idea on what the typing of Pokémon of the Past or Future was going to be
If I were to rank hardest trainer battles in SV, I'd go like this:
10) Atticus - Poison/Dark and Poison/Steel type Pokémon are incredibly good at that point.
09) Brassius - STAB Rock type move from Sudowoodo covers all the major grass type weaknesses (except poison). This is especially challenging because he's just the second gym leader.
08) Poppy - That team is definitely really good; the only reason she's low is because two starters have super-effective stab moves against steel types.
07) Iono - Her Ace has levitate and charge beam, and after terastralisation, it literally has no weakness. She was definitely going to be in this list.
06) Geeta - Okay, I know this is a weird pick, but the reason she is here is because her Espathra can be deadly if you are blindly setting up like most players do in Pokemon games. Plus, body press from Avalugg, bulk up + horn leech from Gogoat (if timed well), and the supreme overload Kingambit can be mildly troublesome. Finally, Double Power Tera Blast (because Glimmora has terastrallised into a rock type) from 130 Special Attack (higher than hydreigon) hits brutally hard. Even though Gigaton Hammer and Glaive Rush from Poppy's and Hassle's aces will hit harder, this is a dual STAB Rock type move, one of the best offensive types, and hence this should be taken into consideration. These are my reasons for ranking her this high. The only reason she's not higher is what we all know; not using her team optimally.
5) Larry (Elite 4) - An underrated obstacle. His first four Pokemon are okay but his Flamingo is a monster. What can actually survive a high roll (or a crit in the worst scenario) from a double power brave bird? Rock and Steel Types? Defensively bulky ground types? Yeah no, this Flamingo has STAB Close Combat and Liquidation for coverage. Without a fast electric type or a really bulky Pokemon like Garganacl, this thing is gonna do some serious damage.
4) Hassle from Academy Ace Tournament - he explained already.
Also 4) Clavell - His team is no joke.
3) Eri - Annihilape with Rage Fist is already a notoriously Pokemon to go up against, but the description of Caph Starmobile is what ultimately pushes her this high.
2) Nemona (Champion Battle) - This is the average difficulty and the average team composition of a Champion; Stealth Rocks, Double Shock, Coil Dudunsparce, and a pseudo legendary.
1) Sada and Turo - This had to top.
Arven is the only story trainer I’ve ever struggled with in a very long time. And it was mainly because my team was 25-30 levels lower than his. And I didn’t know what type Scovillan was and I kinda wanted to do it without looking things up. Once I got in the 15 levels lower I ended tying with him, which is a loss, because I had life orb on my annilihape and he took down doggo and died due to life orb. But trained more of the other Pokémon to be around 15 lower and then just destroyed him. I can see Ortega being hard, but not really. And then the rest is cake.
Penny surprised me with her Jolteon. I am use to Jolteon leaning heavy into its attack stat, so when thunder came out it shocked me, but aside from that still easy.
Arven caught me off guard. Wasn't expecting his pokemons to be that well leveled.
Love the video and keep up the great work
I found Ryme fairly easy, though that may have been at least partly because I'd levelled my pokémon up quite a lot. The hardest gym leader for me was Tulip.
The Battle you have with Nemona after becoming champion was the first time my team got wiped out on the first try. I tried again, and barely won and only because my Lokix came in super clutch against her Skeledirge, since Throat Chop stopped it from using Torch Song...
The ones who gave me trouble was
-Rika
-final battle nemona
-Grusha
Fun fact the only battle I ever lost in scarlet/violet was Iono and it was literally because of an unlucky crit….
Spoiler alert the professor battles Ace can be countered with a gardevoir, yes even Iron Valiant, it’s part fighting
Larry's Dundunsparce was giving me hell with the Hyper Drill and Drill Run move
I think Eri was the trainer I struggled most with, she managed to KO most of my team, even with super effective moves on my side, and I was left with just two Pokemon at the end, one of which I had to use a max revive on. She was the only trainer I was really caught off guard by aside from Professor Turo for the obvious reasons.
I really struggled against Eri and Tulip, the latter because I was vastly underleveled and the former because I just didn't have the right team. I had relatively little trouble with the Elite Four but Hassel did take me down the first time before I tweaked my team to counter his dragons.
I struggled badly and almost lost the Gym battle to Larry but thanks to Garganacl I pulled it off but the hardest two battles are the Fighting type Team Star boss and the AI Sada battle.
Yeah the fights with Eri and Ortega did give me a bit of trouble. Those starmobiles are no joke
Arvin almost got me my first wipe on my first playthrough, had it not been for a miss I'd have lost. Though I was ten levels under his mabostif
He also wiped me too. My first wipe was at the hands of mela until my nacli evolved
If you're reading this Mystic Umbreon I had no problems with the other half of the hardest battles, but I only lost to Arven I defeated the game around new years day. I bought Scarlet on the day after Christmas, my aces are Lucario and Annihilape and Tyranitar. The big 3 in my opinion. Annihilape of mine can easily tank and so can my Lucario.
Raven was my biggest struggle because I was underleveled when I got to him, so I went off to do the other battles, even become champion, then came back to beat him, and he even managed to faint some of my team. I didn’t struggle agains the Elite 4, Geeta or the Star team members. Just Arven
My big elite four struggle was actually Rika. I just didn't have a good team four ground types.
Eri's both one of my favorite characters and was very tough doing a Dark only Challenge.
And the Final Boss one still did give me trouble despite being ~lvl 72.
I was destroyed by Eri 3 freaking times. The only pokémon that i have that was strong against her team was Tinkaton, thats also not very good defensife against her. And that Revavroom of her with +6 everywhere was invinceble.
Hardest battles are the Star Leaders since they’re normal boss fights and end it with super strong Pokémon who have enough bulk you can’t stop their set up.
Hardest regular fight is Ryme. Dual gyms are confusing, and she can stall you really well.
The hardest gym for me was the grass one. The grass type Sudowoodo that could still uses Rock Throw to counter grass weaknesses and trailblazer to speed up was trouble for my early team.
The hardest star team leader for me was the poison one. I didn't have many ground or psychic attacks at the time.
Mysticumbreon your awesome please never stop showing your videos to the world
I was surprised not to see the final battle against Nemona on here
I tried to go in blind to the elite four and the champion. I was surprised how challenging the elite four was even though I was really over leveled
E4 Larry probably gave me the toughest fight in ScVi, but that being said, I entirely understand it's solely on my team. I did not have a good counter specifically to fast flying types with fighting move coverage. If it was just Flying types, I had Ice and Rock, bit those are exactly what Fighting is good against, and they're slow, so they'd take a hit first before I could attack. I had stuff strong against Fighting types, but that wasn't the damage I needed to deal. Had I kept my Belibolt from the journey on my E4 team, it likely wouldn't have been as bad. That or if my Tatsugiri hadn't missed 2 Draco Meteors in a row when I just tried the nuke strat.
The top two hardest battles for me were probably Atticus and Penny. Albeit I was playing with no switching in battle and no healing items in battle.
In Scarlet I only lost 2 battles: first against Eri, her Annihilape wiped basically my entire team. Second against Sada, whose Roaring Moon proved too much first time around. Got lucky on second, though. Gardie survived just enough to 1-hit KO with Moonblast. Some other difficult ones I was either over-leveled or barely lucked out.
In Violet, I've had a bit worse. Haven't made it to Ortega and Eri, False dragon, nor Glaseado mountain gyms yet, but lost against Mela (because of poor team build-up) and twice against Tulip (because underleveled and poor team setup).
The only fight I struggled with was Clavell, since he had Quaquaval for me, and that thing was doing some damage sweeping my team with Aqua Step.
On the flipside, Poppy being here at all was laughable to me because I had Skeledirge and that plus Torch Song equals “Magnezone is the only survivor and only because of Sturdy.”
The elite four member that gave me the most trouble was Hassel. It was the only battle in the elite four that i didnt have coverage for. The baxcalibur just out sped my whole team and one tapped them all.
Honestly poppy was the easiest elite 4 for me. Managed to sweep her with a garganacl. Salt cures increased damage combined with iron defence and body press made it real easy.
I'm curious as to where youd place the final nemona and the final team star boss ;) still gotta admit this is a good list.
My only question is how does Mystic literally ALWAYS have a whole video to talk about literally just Pokémon? I respect the hell out of that ability because I would definitely run out of things to talk about. Haha.
Honorable mention goes the Larry gym team. I got whited out and had to evolved my Skeledirge and talonflame allyne way, as even with my higher levelled Espathra and Coalossal, he still decimated me.
Oh and mela becuz u went in underleveled and the car was annoying to deal witj
Honestly, the hardest fights for me were as follows:
Brassius, surprisingly, takes the first spot. Not because he's tough specifically, but because at the point you first fight him, that sudowoodo is just plain mean and punishes you hard for taking advantage of its tera typing. And again at that point, you're probably going to be somewhat limited in good answers if you're not powerleveling.
Grusha was also painful to battle. In spite of Ice's fragile nature, he has quite a few physically bulky mons on his team... And I, due to some unfortunate coincidences, happened to have a team heavy on physical attacks. I still won, but it was enough to make the battle harder than it should have been.
Special mention to Geeta, who gave me a loss for much the same reason. Carved through most of her team no trouble, but Kingambit's physical defenses stopped me cold even with type advantage... And unfortunately he was boosted by his fallen teammates to hit back hard in return.
Arven also gave me more trouble than he should have, primarily because of Mabosstif. That actually was quite a nasty bit of coverage with its attacks, and I had to try and bait the AI into using certain ones for safe switches during the match.
Finally... While not the "hardest" match, Turo was definitely my closest fight, literally coming down to our last pokemon each. A fitting finish to what was supposed to be the most climactic opponent of the game.
Also, fun note... Ryme was my easiest fight, specifically because it was a double battle lol
Larry is a cool guy 😎
Tbh fighting to mabustiff after that story line is quite hard it's like do I want to murder this with my lucario and most speed through it because of how heart warming it is to then faced with level 60 mons
Clavell, Atticus, and both of Iono’s fights were the only ones that I had to do multiple times, but all the Team Star Revavrooms were horrible.
Since Indigo Disk has been out for a couple wks, could we get an updated list?
I was in love with TinkaTon
So Ortega was a breeze with the Hammer.
And Ryme? Lol laughs in Meowscarada
But the lil Steel girl, yea she got me, i was NOT prepared,
And that Belibolt messed me up to the point i was NOT ready for that Mismagious.
And Eri that attack boost with that Revaroom damn that was unexpected.
3:42 the fact that he’s holding the pokeball upside down
Since I was an overachiever and didn't do anything story wise until my team was all level 60, I steamrolled through everything until I got to Eri who nearly wiped me. The final boss also nearly got me.
I'm surprised at the difficulty posed by this gen. Of course it has to do with the area level gap and the order you choose to do things, but I am very happy that it is once again possible to get wiped by a gym leader due to being under levelled.
Iono is a serious Nuzlocke killer. If you don't arrive at Levincia with a specific counter on hand for Levitate Electric Mismagius, it's over.
The Larry rematch fight was tough for me because Larry kept getting Body Slam paras
Honestly, the only battles I really strugged with were Larry and Grusha's main fight, Hassel's first fight, Gigachad, and Eri
I still find it hilarious that the first time I fought Eri, I thought that the Star Mobile was Poison-Steel, not pure Fighting because this was the first Team Star base I raided. As a result, I got swept due to type confusion, the Star Mobile’s Shift Gear move, and its Stamina ability. I came back for a second attempt and beat it with good ol’ Gardy, but the first attempt was definitely a shock. Might I add that in the second fight against Arven, by some miracle I managed to win on the first attempt despite being a whopping 11 LEVELS underleved. 😂😂😂
In my second play through the water gyms crab hammer kept one shoting my team, I was revive cycling forever.
But I didn’t have any particular counter to water types and I may have been a little under leveled
Hm, how very interesting, i will look forward to see what else you might come up with for a Video.
Funny enough i don't recall blacking out in any of my fights in my first playthrough but i remember always getting very close to losing due to my team going all out. Potions helped but still.
Honestly, Turo's team is a threat even with a team as type diverse as the one I have. Each of the Paradox have different weaknesses and my team didn't exactly cover my weakness to poison type.
Dude, have you not seen the final possible team for the rival? That team is a nightmare, way harder than the other challenges
I can understand the 3th gym is hard. But because I've never did the gyms in order, the 3th gym was the 5th. It was like 1,4,5,2,3,6,7,8
the only things i struggle with was the great tusk, sada, and grusha because he was my third gym battle. i had became super overleveled after trying to complete the dex as fast as possible because i wanted to see everything
Eri was the hardest for me, I often have dark types on my team and I like to try to keep one team through the whole game. Fighting is often a weakness for me as a player, I was expecting her to be as pain. But that annilape wrecked me over and over. Any answers I had for her fighting such as my Gardivor or Clodsire toxic stall, etc. if I got through her Annilape then her Vroom finished my team off. I ended up beating her with my gravehound and the super broken move last respects.
My freshly added Brambleghast annihilated the Dondozo+Tatsugiri fight. Grass Knot was very effectivs vs Dondozo and the fact Tatsugiri tried to use Ice Wind which activated Wind Rider did not help the Sushi mon.
team star fighting was the omly time i whited out playing through, i went and caught a gengar to replace one of my mons just for an immunity
FINALLY!! SOMEONE SAYS HOW DIFFICULT IONO IS! THE HARDEST GYM LEADER OF ALL TIME IMO
I struggled the most against eri and Larry. Not all that surprising I guess, given my premiere pokemon were Ceruledge and Meowscarada.
The hardest fights for me were Rika and Arven.
Arven’s team is legit a great team if you’re not prepared. And Rika’s team is tricky to counter sometimes.
My biggest struggles were Iono and Larry 2.0; my team was stacked with bulk but lacked in speed, and their speedy high damage mons almost beat me lol
At professors sadas battle i decided to throw in a corviknight that i got randomly for “good luck” and i won with it
For me I only had trouble with one character in the game so far and that was number 7 because I was a little under leveled but with a lot of revives and hyper and Max potions I was able to defeat him😓
Iono and Eri battles are undoubtedly the hardest ones in entire game (Violet in my case). Mismagius have almost NO WEAKNESSES if you don't have an ability-changing move, and Eri's Revavroom... IT'S FREAKING CHEESY
As for Ryme, I didn't find this battle hard. Have Annihilape and a good Dark-type mon, and you're victorious
Wow you nailed it.
I feel bad for Poppy first time around in the Elite 4. I overleveled my Meowscarada to 80💀 because I thought it was gonna hurt badly like it did for me in Pokemon Platinum. Turns out, while worth it, was not necessary and completely overkill
I havent had a chance to struggle against any trainer so far....by the time i reached the 4th gym I had pokemon over level 60. I was having too much fun exploring and battling wild pokemon instead of doing the story that I was super overlvled for every major fight.
I had trouble with alot of the battles, but the only ones I had failed was when I tried to rush Kofu at game start (level scaling test) and professor purple what's his name
I never had a tough battle until I fought the fighting type team star Boss. Her car thing took out 5/6 of my pokemon
I curb stomped Rhyme and Dondozo. Rhyme perished because my team consisted of almost exclusively dark and ghost types. Then Dondozo crumbled because of Flower Trick and an angry Tinkaton.