A desktop server case?
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2023
- The Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 Server is designed for desktop server use however it is capable of so much more!
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But when microcenter in Europe...
There isn’t even that many in the US
This. A family trip would be cool
Or Alabama
In Italy, please! It would be awesome lol
When every state has their own
And every Canadian province has one
And every Mexican state has one
And every....
Love the big Phanteks boxes. Great for homelab stuff.
I've got an Enthoo 719 tower: Currently mostly used for gaming, but also a work computer. It was a gift build as a thank you for a team project I was a part of a couple years back. Its super quiet, & has lots of upgrade possibilities. I love the brand so much, I got a 2nd case, an Eclipse P360A, for my other computer! Great review as always, thank you Jay & Team!! 😎
I have this non-server version of this and I love it. So easy to work with, especially with the water cooling.
Thanks for reviewing this case, it is exactly what I have been searching for!! 11 pci slots with drive support and solid airflow is incredible.
As always I feel like Jay should build a quick "test build" when reviewing cases just to get a better idea of them
I was gonna make this comment. Assuming he has the parts, a mock-up build would be nice.
@@acidcrow4051 He has 3d printers, even proper mock up of fake parts would be pretty interesting.
Agreed.
He could just use failed/junk/scrap components to do it. It would be a better use of dead parts than landfill if you're not stripping them for parts. It wouldn't have to be anything recent either.
GN does this. Why can't Jay?
Finally, the version 1 was amazing, soo much space and perfect placement.
I've got the Pro 2 currently and i love it. The current nv7 looks amazing as well and I'll update to that once i move. But the pro 2 is still great.
Amazed it took this long for phantex to make a proper server chassis considering they are leading the full tower case market imo.
The Fractal Design Define R5 is still one of my favorite chassis to build a home server in. Really, any of the Define R series chassis are awesome when kitted out with all of the drive sleds. Been using one for my media server for quite some time now and it's been awesome. Plenty of fan mounting options. Some sound deadening panels that also help control airflow. The R5 even has 5.25" bays for when you need an optical drive.
Or you can use the 5.25 bays into space for 3 more 3.5 HDDs!
True, I forgot about those!
I never saw one, so I looked I up, and Jay's video was so old he barely had grey hair
I use one of these as well and I love it! 8x3.5" drive bays, 2x5.25" bays, and 2x2.5" sleds on the back.
@@alexfair6653 it's the perfect size for a home server. Plenty of space for a variety of Motherboards, flexibly fan mounting options, great filtration, easy cable management, and stays quiet. All packed into a mid tower.
Yes i would use this, i already put it (the glass panel version) on my wishlist on Newegg last week, so im glad you reviewed it. I still haven't planned a build yet but it might just start with that case and go from there
Hmmm, I'm definitely with you on the front USB cover, and the wasted space for the 3.5" drive bays. I think my preference would be for the Fractal Design 7XL in this regard. I guess each has their positives and negatives.
Thank you Phanteks for taking the risks at creating something niece. I don't have home server, would love to make one... And this definitely is in my radar if and when the time for it comes.
All that space. Still no 5.25" bays...
INB4 "WHY DO YOU WANT OPTICAL DRIVES, BRO? IT'S CURRENT YEAR, BRO"
@@arnox4554 Bruh, I'm 97', ofc I understand why you'd want one lmao.
I remember having CD's burned for me, and playing on grandparents old white box, playing those games that came on cereal boxes, and the practical applications of retaining old data whiles it's still usable. It's a bit of an hoarders mindset, but I get that since I had CD rack with bunch of DVD's and shit.
@@arnox4554 USB optical drive
@@arnox4554 Got to agree. A couple of 5.25 bays and a better front IO position (bring it forward, with no cover) would make this near perfect.
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Yea why do you need multiple 5.25 bays?
I use external BR mdisc drives and like them.
There's so much space for 3.5" drives you don't even need icydocks anymore.
Having been in a career where I used to build servers on the daily, that's probably as close to what I used to work on while maintaining a full tower functionality. Instead of one PSU, most of the builds I commissioned had 2 or more PSU's as 'redundancies' (obv. we're talking about a long time ago now, but that's how they were back in the late-90's). Back then, the largest build I ever set up was for 36x 18Gb hot-swappable drives on the good old Win NT platform. The largest server I ever commissioned was like a giant mini-fridge and weighed about 50kgs with nothing in it. So large that the box it came in had its own wooden ramp that the unit had to roll off to get it on the ground, and took two people to lift.
I think i'm in love lol. This is EXACTLY what I needed for my home server/Gaming PC Build. Glad you featured this for us despite any flack that may or may not come your way. Great video as always Jay.
If you need more than 8-3.5" drives that this case supports, also check out the Meshify 2 XL.
A few years ago, I was playing around with some SSI-EEB boards ( for dual 2011-V1 processors ) At the time the only options were the Corsait 1000D ( which at the time was just coming to market ) or the Phanteks Enthoo PRO SE, which was also waaaaaay cheaper ( 130€ at the time ) I used this case for around 3 years, and it was great ! Sold it to a friend who still uses it to this day.
A big plus with pretty much any Phanteks case is that they use A LOT of screws, so that you can pretty much gut the whole chassis out, IIRC on my Enthoo PRO SE, I was able to unscrew the 2 HDD cages, the HDD cage support, the ODD cage ( Yes, it had 3 ODD slots ) the side reinforcement / decorative plate, and parts of the actual motherboard plate
Phanteks makes some great cases. I have the P500a and absolutely love it.
I already have the original Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 works great. Mass airflow and I love Phantek's drive cages. The server edition looks good if I went with server mobo options etc. Thanks for vid Jay!
Ive been pricing NAS desktops and rackmount cases for the past year for a ceph build I want to do. Cheap 4u multi-bay cases are now super expensive. Even stupidly designed 1u four bay cases are reaching $400 dollars with no included PSU / backplane / or even other computer parts. This Phanteks case comes in the middle of a super expensive server white build time, so it is absolutely a calculated move.
Nice case. I recently just built into a Fractal Design Meshify 2. Has space for 14 drives and I am running a custom loop in it. Dedicated home server where i self host all my services. Love home server content!
I found out about this chassis when I was building a new homelab server. It had *just* been released, there were no reviews that I could find, and it wasn't stocked anywhere. I had such a great experience with the original Enthoo Pro seven years ago when I built the lab server the new one is replacing. I called Phanteks, confirmed some compatibility questions (Noctua NH-U14S for Epyc Rome), and bought it direct from them. This thing is a beast. It's holding a dual Epyc 7452, 512GB RAM, and 8x 3.84TB enterprise U.2 NVME disks. I have three Noctua PPC-2000 industrial fans in the front, three Phanteks T30-120 (I think is the model) up top to exhaust, and one more PPC-2000 in back for exhaust.
My only complaint, and it's pretty minor all things considered, is that the bracket that moves to mount a fan on the side does not fit with the NH-U14S. The cooler is too tall. That's my fault, and I should have asked a more specific question about that, but cooling isn't an issue either way.
I also really dig the slick white LED ring around the power button. It's understated, with a bit of a Tron vibe. Very clean.
EDIT: As for it being a risk, I'm not so sure about that. The Enthoo Pro was so ubiquitous as a server chassis among the homelab crowd that when a number of small shops sprung up offering pre-built homelab servers, many if not most were built into it. It's definitely not going to see the same sell-through, but for the homelab and DIY server crowd looking for big specs, it's perfect.
I just love how much of a relatable dork Jay is.
Love the case unboxing videos for sure!! I’m still window shopping my first custom built pc for myself. I’ve built a few for friends and family. But, being very patient for myself.
I use the Corsair Cube case (D600? maybe?) for my homebrew build. It has plenty of room behind the MB tray for all the drives I need and works great for what I use it for. It's neat that there are alternative cases with Servers in mind that aren't part of proprietary SI packages. Thanks for sharing! Cheers 🍻
Yep, I've got a home server that I've put in a Fractal Meshify 2. I do love to see more cases like this. I would love to be able to do a full blown rack, but doing a standard build just makes more sense right now. So... nice to see more options.
I agree. It is nice to see additional case options to the Fractal Meshify 2 XL. I have 3x Fractal Meshify 2 XL cases which at the time was the only tower case that could hold the have Supermicro X9DRI-LN4F+ boards for my Proxmox HA cluster.
I have the Meshify 2 for my server as well, and the hard drive mounting system is much more space efficient than this one since it's a mid tower and it can hold 15 3.5" HDD drives and 2 2.5" SATA SSD
I'm considering modding my TV stand to accept 15-19 inch rack chassis. I forsee a 1u for a media server. And a 2-3u for a media center whenever Strix Point hits desktop.
@@EnricoAnsaloni Running the non xl meshify 2 for my gaming rig / plex / nvr-blue iris server / vm box. Only thing i wish i would have went with the xl as i lost two drive slots due to gpu power plugs.
@@nwngunner yes the XL has more space I made a build with it for a friend and the space for radiators especially in thickness is much more, also I believe there are 3 more HDD sled slots in the XL in storage configuration
I plan on doing up a home server soon. While it may be old, my Cooler Master Cosmos II is gonna be perfect for what I need. Plenty of storage options, plenty of fan mounts for cooling and proper E-ATX support. All within a durable and well-designed chassis.
Running a Enthoo Pro M-TG for my home server now. It's doing ok, top fan is 1/2 obstructed by the front of the case and you have to buy the drive sleds separately but it's holding (5) 3.5" drives perfectly.
I've got the Enthoo Pro 2 currently and i love it.
Nice. Thinking of buying this now for my server. Thanx.
I have the Enthoo Pro, with the solid side panel (they only offer glass or plexi window options now). Great case, with tons of room!
Funny thing: I have been looking for a case that supports many 3.5" drives with good airflow and that is under 12" of width. I have been going through your case reviews these last few days. Now that you uploaded this video I went to look for your video of the Pro II non-server version of this case (which was surprisingly 3 years ago) and that's definitely the case I need, even if it's extremely huge. I'm going for that one.
I'd take a look at the Thermaltake Core V70, got one of those as my home server, space for 8+ HDD's plus some SSD's, 5 1/4 drive bays, up to 200mm fan support, room for large radiators front and rear and decent IO
Something I still miss from a case like this is a front side full of 5.25" expansion. Because then you could fit hot swap bays to the front. You can fit 5X 3.5" hot swap bays in 3X 5.25" expansion bays. But for that you need an old Cooler Master Stacker or similar.
enthoo pro V1 version of the case has 3 + 6 3.5" drive bays + 1 2.5" mount behind the motherboard, i have 2 8 bay SSD hotswap cages in mine. my 360 radiator on top blocks the 3rd one since i had to push it forward due to the 8 pin on my motherboard being in the way.
That would've been a much better implementation of a "server" case. 12-ish 5.25 bays in a new modern case for $170, without having to buy Rosewill, would be pretty nice. Not that Rosewill is bad, I'd just like to see that convertible tower/rack case come back in some form. Size it so you just pop off the top and bottom plastics, bam, holes for mounting rails.
Yeah when I had to get a monster super tower foe my homelab, I had to buy a used Corsair for that kind of expansion. Hindsight 20/20 I should have just grabbed rackmount stuff, but whatever.
For weirdos like me but with less space, I can see the value of having hotswap cages in the front, or having a bunch of disk drives for ripping blurays.
SSDs are now cheap enough that home server implementations including 6/8 bay 5.25" SSD cages (with SAS or SATA backplanes) are no longer unrealistic. This is how I've implemented storage on my gaming rig, and is how I will be implementing storage on my next home server.
This is why I'm still running an old Lian Li PC-P50 midi tower. 9 x 5.25" drive bays in the front that allow for 3 x 5x3.5" hot swap bays holding 15 drives. There was even a full size tower with 12 x 5.25" drive bays so that you could fit 20 drives.
I'm currently running 10x Seagate Exos X18.
For people needing much storage space SSDs still aren't an option.
And who even still uses plain 2.5" SATA SSDs? Way too slow. NVMe is pretty much standard for quite some time already. So this 2.5" mounts are pretty much useless.
i actually have the enthoo pro 2 that you have showed previously, and i love it as its such a giant case with lots of space. also site note, you can mount 3.5 hdds directly on the fan back wall with a little messing around to get the screws to fit
I have the Ethoo Pro case and love it! I wanted a more modern case that has a full tempered glass side panel and USB-C on the front panel and still had 5.25" Drive Bays. So this case was prefect!
Definitly a nice case to have as server case. I have a server running in an old case. Sharkoon Rebel 12. A bigtower from 2008. My first watercooled system ran in this tower for years. It has 11 5.25" bays at the front and a 3.5" bay. 6 dedicated drive bays inside the case. It now houses a supermicro serverboard with 2 Xeon E5645, 96GB ECC memory and 10+ drives.
I have the Enthoo Pro II and I love it. It's one of the very few cases you can get WITHOUT a glass sidepanel.
Glad to see these sort of stuff on your channel, Please keep it up man! There are a lot of us interested in semi-nerd-homelab-hardware/accessories :D Cheers ^_^
18:30 Not only Phil was dying in the background, I was too! I had to pick myself up! 🤣🤣🤣
I have case in the pro2 (non server) and love that case. Dual loop, dual GPU hardline in that with 2 separate distribution blocks as well. This case is HUGE!
I'm watching this video, and my mind already going over all the ways I could move my media server for my home theater into it and modify my existing system... Thank you for sharing. 🙂
Sick build
Nice review with a lot of good details.
I have the original Enthoo Pro for my server. Love it!
Love my fractal node 304. Perfect server case for the home.
This thing looks pretty amazing
Would like to see a complete sever build in this. I love seeing up-right rectangular box filled with computers and silicons. It make me happy lol.
That is the case I have. Absolutely love it!
I have been looking for something just like this...thanks!
It’s always hilarious when Jay gets zapped by cases. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I used to use an EVGA DG 87 for my NAS. This one looks amazing!
Thanks for reviewing this! I'm considering this exact case for my home gpu server
Great case unboxing and review! Would really like to see a home server build in a case like this, built with off the shelf products (not necessarily server grade parts), that would show performance with multi-load use. I have been considering doing this at my home since I have 5 desktops running, along side multiple laptops and tablets. Its a load on power and internet to handle all this. Was thinking that if the computing could be consolidated into one unit, and not lose too much performance, it would be great. Any thought on doing a build like this, Jay?
Running my home lab in the Fractal Design Define 7 and as for this case. I have the none server variant and I've got 2x 360 1x 480 and a 240. Moved from the OG Enthoo to the Pro 2 for a downsize in case size but an upgrade in mountable space for rads and also that drain port is a nice touch.
i got the luxe2 were it was solid on front and the follow up enthoo pro with the mesh for quit some time now fully costum watercooled, love that case! best big ass case so far, and i got a lot like 2 tower500, the corsair1000D(biggest crap ever) and lot others. changed layouts so often, its just great experience to build in. no worthy replacement out there so far!
i would so use this case, for a home server or just as my rigs case lol cool case, love all the adjustable stuff.
Ive got a Old rack mounted server chassis. So seeing this will make it nice as i have a home server for my backups and stuff
Its hilarious, I just got on to my main pc to watch some youtube videos. I legit just got this case in today to put my old spare pc/server in to and just finished getting it all put together. What an amazing case. I got the one without the glass panel as well.
love Phanteks. Still rocking my enthoo pro from 7 years ago
Awesome case and an awesome Step-Brothers reference.
I have the echo 2 :) and you can buy more of the 3.5 drive holders. They mount where those ssd covers are on the case using thumb screws. It holds like 12-14 3.5 drives.
PHANTEKS! been a while i havent seen a box that excites me as the image i saw before clicking on the video !
Love the jay reviews, he keeps them fun and entertaining
I actually am running a home server in the Enthoo Pro II, SSI-EEB sized board. I have the same criticism with this case as I do with mine: I want more space for 3.5" drives. The way the sleds mount on the case wastes a ton of space. If they gave me an option to have a backplane and 3.5" drive holder like they do in actual server hardware, it would an instant buy from me. As is, in tower formation, they could even do as Jay said in the video and put mounting points in the bottom so I can make my own tower of drives with their sleds.
Great video! As always :) keep up the good work ❤
been waiting for this one!!
I have a phanteks p500a rgb and I have loved the room to build in the case.
Love you jay I watch all the time love case talks
I did an a cyberpunk build in the Enthoo Pro II and I loved how much space i had for an internal city design and lcd's and all the cooling and a distroplate designed for the TT P5 so i had all horrizontal runs.
Definitely would have this chez moi, housing my modest desktop.
I had a P600S to house my main server, and then I upgraded to the 719 for more drives. I currently have space for 14 HDDs without impeding on a dGPU. I agree with the point about the mechanism on the floor of the chassis being useful for stacking extra drive cages, but I do prefer the wall mounted drive cages having some space between them as it appears to help with airflow (for me). In the future, when I finally take the plunge into open-loop water cooling, I want to use the 719 for that.
I upgraded to a corsair 100D from a 900D which I've promoted as my new SAN! Because of this I really like the case and I approve for this move to create a "server edition" desktop case!
Nice case, been saving my old Ryzen 3900XT to upgrade my homelab server with it and this case looks perfect!
I currently run my home server in my old Thermaltake Overseer RX-i
Another modern option might be the beQuiet! Silent base 802 with the mesh front..... that case like the entoo has got 3.5 inch drive mounts that can be put in the front
I've got a home server running older consumer grade parts in an ancient Dell workstation case that I got for free from a family member. I would love to get actual server hardware, but what stopped me for my current server is a lack of space for a server rack. If I ever build another server, a case like this is absolutely something that I would consider building in!
Really like this chasis. I've been looking for a multi-function case that gives flexibility, this seems to check alot of boxes. I also bought the rosewill rackmount like your own server, but its really not great once you start trying to vertically mount it etc... This might be something i keep an eye out for in the near term to rebuild/build a new server on it.
I would love that case. I've been wanting to build something to combine 2 servers into 1 with a TR4 platform
I have the Phanteks Enthoo Pro -- I guess that is the predecessor to this case. I only have 3 hard disk drives and 2 SATA SSDs along with one gtx-1050 video card, but I needed something that could handle a SSI-EEB motherboard, and this was one of the only reasonable cases that could handle that. It has been a great home server.
this reminds me of my chaser MK1 case from Thermaltake, I still use it but its getting old and things are wearing down on it. very cool case
Had a thought in a reply to reply; Jay, you have 3d printers... Could you print mock-up parts and put like magnets at "PCIe slots" to make a fast'n'blocky mock-up build inside the case? PLA with low infill is light enough to stay around with magnets or 1~2 screws; print some stubs for watercooling connectors and you've got pretty good aproximate for planning a loop etc.
Really good to ser such product comming back on the marked😊
Abit to late for me though, already settled on the old Antec cases with 5.25 slots in the hole front of the case 9slot and 12slot versions.
Love the idea og this Server case case, but also do not like much the 3.5 mechanism that attach to the rear..
Funny that a couple of decades ago before the big switch to 3u and smaller most of the X server cases from IBM/HP/Compaq/etc were setup to be rack mount or standing. Of course back then they were like 6u or 8u or bigger. You could order them either way and could get a simple kit if you needed to change it. I remember HP even had a series that allowed you to change the 5.25 bay rotations. It was 2 screws and a couple of clips and you could pull out the cage that housed the bays and turn them.
Phanteks make great cases. I wasn't expecting the Server Edition to be so different.
Love phanteks for my home server! Currently running a p400a
I run multiple servers, one of them inside that very case. I love it, doesn't come with any fans though, which is not necessarily bad (pick the ones that fit your hardware). Do need to budget for them though.
Im using a define r6 atm for my home server (fractal). i have been tempted to upgrade to the r7 XL, but this looks interesting too. great video!
I use the Enthoo Pro v1 case. No garbage RGB, plenty of room for optical dives and HDD, just a real good all around do anything with case..... And it doesn't glow in the dark!
Cheers 🍻
Sure would use this case at home for my in-progress ‘new’ dedicated PlexServer IF the drive bays were as suggested all connected together in one large pillar rather than the 2 ‘caddies’ only. Currently building it in an older Corsair 780T chassis where I have bought additional bays & caddies to maximise the number of 3.5” HDD’s I can install (along with SATA HBA PCIe cards). I do like the look of the Phanteks though & the adjustable inner fan layout would certainly help to cool the drives down a bit. The non-window side panels also appeal to me as not keen on windowed side panels if honest as would rather look at the screen instead of at the components I know I have! Just depends on the cost as well tbh.
ooh, now that's a case I would be interested in!!
Yes I am running a server now (HP micro gen 8). Also building a new one with watercooling (first time) in a Thermaltake level 20 HT case. What I dont like about this case and also the Thermaltake is just 4 harddrive slots. They should include 5.25 inch mounting strips, so we can use enclosures from icy dock or others
I'm working on parts for a home server. I picked up a Classico Storage Master case that can hold 12 3.5in HDD and 2 2.5in SSD.
Seems great for a home-server !!!
Any chance for Jayz posting a video building a badass server with this case ???
This reminds me of my first storage server, where I took a coolermaster case that had twelve 5" external drive bays in which I stuffed three four-drive cages, each with a 120mm fan in back. Felt so awesome with twelve drives --- until I realized it overheated too easily. I think this Phantek case with ten drives have big enough gaps between the drive cages to allow enough air flow to keep those hard drives cool. With a solid side panel, think of all the money you save not being tempted to buy RGB fans...
One of the few times I wished you made an epic server build with this
dag namit.. was so looking forward to this case but seeing the drive layout i'll just stick with my enthoo pro V1.. btw you can buy or 3D print(PETG) 3.5" sleds that hold multiple 2.5" SSD's that fit in the cages.
I love how Jay pre-empts certain arguments in the middle of the video. It's almost like he's heard it all.
I have a Core X9 for my storage server: 8 internal 3.5" bays filled with 4TB Ultrastars and 2X 5 1/4" bay to 6X 2.5" SSD hotswap bays with 8 2TB MX500 SSDs, and still have 4X2.5" SSD bays left to expand later. The HDDs are the iSCSI storage for my home lab hypervisors and the SSDs are the SMB file share. This case doesn't look like it would works as well. I love 5 1/4" bays for storage servers, as you can get 2.5" bay adapters to get dense levels of storage, and hot swap.
not gonna lie, Jayztwocents is the best PC technician on earth! nobody can beat him at a beautiful PC build
my old home server is/was an antec p183... planning on changing over to a fractal node 804 due to its compactness and drive capacity. Ones used before were cheapest ATX with most drive slots as it lived in another room.
current plans are to diy my own cloud kinda and have a gpu pass through to use for a gaming vm(chimeraOs) as it will live in my living room, unless I can get an HDMI power on signal to trigger the VM to start then it may get shoved into a closet. Alternatively I kitbash some Ikea end tables and make a stealth living room server box. Or i just get the chassis and call it done.
I literally have my home server built in another Phanteks case. This is sick and wouldve been the route I went if it was released at the time. This is TAILORED to my exact use case (although I need minimum 12 drive bays, oh well)
Still rocking a Rosewill Thor v2 case for my Desktop Server. It has 6x5.25 to allow for some neat IcyDock 5x3.5 tooless dock that occupy 3x5.25 each.
Is a nice looking case. I am running a 4 servers at home but I use 2U cases from SliverStone and Rackhoice. As a tower server looks good but not so much for rack mounting since it doesn’t have any rail mounting points or even rack ears. Still nice looking case
i still use the enthoo 718 elite also known as ''luxe 2'' and it is amazing.