1 Month Later... Do I still Love it? - 2021 KTM Super Adventure S Ownership
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Join me 1 month into ownership of my brand new KTM 1290 Super Adventure S. In this video I go through my pros, cons and things that I have managed to get around which I thought would bug me.
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Gear;
Helmets - Shoei RYD and Arai Tour X4
Summer Gear - Richa Daytona 60s and Revit Lombard 2 Cordura Jeans
Touring Gear - Halvarssons Walkyr Jacket and Wish Trousers
Boots - Daytona Roadstar GTX and Daytona AC Classics in Brown
Gloves - Knox Handroid Pod Mk2, Dainese Corbin D-Dry, Gerbing X12 heated gloves
Camera Set Up;
Main Camera - GoPro Hero 9 Black
B Camera - GoPro Hero 8 Black
Drone - DJI Mavic Mini (1st edition)
TimeCodes
00:00 - Intro
1:17 - Follow on from First Ride Review
3:51 - Seat Comfort
5:20 - Fuel Range/Consumption
7:36 - Electronics
8:44 - KTM MyRide & MyRideNavigation
10:06 - Connecting Phone/Intercom to Bike
11:08 - Engine, Quickshifter & Suspension
12:30 - High Speed Wobble?
12:45 - Phone Compartment
13:16 - Dealer Support
14:05 - Adaptive Ride Height
14:37 - Custom Switch Options
15:30 - Overall Thoughts
16:30 - Cornering
17:41 - Outro
Enjoy! 
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I like! And heartening to know (so far) no electronic issues……….looking forward to the next one.
3.5k miles in so far and still no issues! So hoping that stays the same haha! Thanks for watching
Excellent Channel! Please keep posting for a long term review to spot any issues.
Thank you! I've just filmed a 1500 mile review and will do a 5000 mile too. Will get the 1500 mile one edited and uploaded soon
Hi Sam. Good update, I'm running in my SAS at the moment aswell. Have to agree with you on most points. Screen is fine for me at motorway speeds I'm 5"8
My samsung phone fits in the compartment if taken out of it case. Seat ok for two hours riding for me. It's a brilliant bike to ride does everything. I never get bored playing with that quick shifter and blipper. I chuckle to myself everytime I use it.
Thanks Steven! You wait until you get it past the first service, it just gets better. Although careful of those speed cameras.. had to have a serious chat with myself haha! Got my ergo seat on order so hopefully that will help! Glad you're enjoying yours too
Think I might just have to get myself a 1290 for next riding season. Look forward to more updates from you bud. 👍
You won't be disappointed! Thank you, let me know if there's anything specific you'd like to know about. Got an off road, anti-dive, long haul and headlight test in upcoming vid too!
Good to meet you today at Bikestop Sam, il let you know if I get a SAS, but will be keeping my R9t UGS
Good to meet you too Jon! Good chat. Hopefully see you here again!
Nice review sir! And I can add that I drove mine 12000km this summer, mostly with my wife and fully loaded touratech cases, but also on some more "inspired" trips with my buddies on gravel etc. It is an absolutely hooligan bike, I love it!
Awesome! Very jealous. I'm looking forward to getting out on a few trips of my own. Its an amazing bike isn't it.. even if it does bring out the child in us haha
@@SamVBikes Trust me, I have done some very childish moves with it and just ending up spontaneous laughing like crazy, when it revvs up to 9500 and you blip the shifter you feel alive, if not, sell the bike and start working as a kamikaze pilot or similar =)
Haha! Agreed! I've had to have a chat with myself a few times to calm down! It's such an addictive bike to ride though
Thks sam.Picking up my new 1290 R tomorrow.Cheers
Congratulations!!
The fuel tank gauge is the same on my s1000xr, fill it up and it’s reads different every time. Good review 👌
Good to know its not just my bike having a 'KTM moment' 😂 Thank you very much!
Hi Sam for your info I bought mine, 2021 model ex display version with a load of extras due to new showroom stock coming in for same as new model price. Had not ridden or seen one other than You Tube reviews (particularly yours) and pics of my bike sitting in the showroom. Anyway - delivered 27th Jan 22. and had to wait for Sat for first ride out after ACF50 applied. Just completed 200 miles and I am amazed how good this bike is. WOW Only niggle so far Fuel gauge thing ?????? had engine warning light on today (electrical issue, not noticed) which went off after a restart after 50 miles. Think it must be damp plug somewhere after washing Sat road salt off. Washed again after Sun ride and back on again!!! Will let you know what happens.
Carry on the great Vlogs. Cheers Mike
Congratulations on the new bike! Glad you enjoyed the bike. I'm wondering if it could be a low battery voltage. This current weather and irregular riding seems to have caused a few people to have low or dead batteries. As soon as that happens, the electrical system on any of these new bikes hates it! Keep me updated!
I’m wanting the 2021 but being that I’m from the USA, they’re not here yet. I’ve got a 15 super duke but I think it’s time for a larger size bike, I’m 6 foot and skittle more room to move around will be nice. Thanks for the input.
Moving up to one of these would be ideal when they arrive. Basically the superduke with more comfort and leg room! Thanks for watching!
What a great video, man I love motorbikes
Great bike. I've got a 2020 Superduke GT....only getting 47mpg 😃. Have the ergo seats too, I still get a sore ar5e unless I set the suspension to comfort mode
Thanks! Love the GT, and hoping they will be updating it soon with the new engine etc too. Good to know! The ergo seat has now turned up for this and its so much more comfortable than the stocker!
Glad you really like the KTM mate. I Will have a serious look at this bike soon. Certainly appears to tick all the boxes for my needs. Just found your channel and it's great. Subbed.
Its a corker of a bike, so hopefully it's taken that step away from the KTM tendency for electrical problems etc. Thanks for watching and the sub! Appreciate it!
The Triumph fuel gauge is as you mention but only for a couple of minutes, I’ve never seen it take 15 minutes to settle. The range estimate does take a few km though as it needs some basis to see how you are riding.
15 mins was an exaggeration! Haha I wouldn't be too pleased if a bike that costs this much took 15 mins to notice it! Its a few minutes too
Hello. Thanks for the review. I noticed your GoPro RAM mount center of the dash. Can you post the info on that mount? That looks like an ideal spot.
No problem! It's a great spot isn't it! It was just a GoPro sticky pad in the middle of the plastic behind the TFT, with a RAM ball mount arm attachment. Very simple but super clean! Unfortunately I no longer use it because I have my Garmin in the position but I'm trying to find a neat solution for it again
I just f-ing ❤️💯 Apple Car on my Honda Africa Twin….I love riding to my playlists. I hope KTM will integrate CarPlay soon
Agreed! It would be so good if they did integrate it!!
Nice review Sam, I must try getting a go on one at some point. You tell how much fun it is from your enthusiasm.
Definitely worth it! I always get off with an aching face from smiling so much, and a slight worry I've been caught speeding 😂
@@SamVBikes I couldn't help laughing with you, every time you gave it some throttle. They should do a monopoly version which comes with a pack of get of jail free cards 😂
Haha! I'm sure my mates are growing to hate my laugh.. its constant ha! I wonder if that would work.. I might add some Get out of jail free cards in my wallet and hope the officer has a sense of humour 😂
@@SamVBikes it's worth a try and if you can make a copper laugh, it may help. Bikes are all about how they make you feel and this beast obviously makes you happy, and probably poorer every time you open the throttle. Please let me know which petrol station you use so I can buy some shares 😀
Hahaha! I'm just chatting with a guy on Instagram about that... premium Shell optimum had me coughing up £34 for one tank when I was really low.. that was painful haha. It's so worth it though!
Every review you do makes me want one more, lets see how I feel after our trip next week!
I'm sure there's there's dealer we can stop by on the way home for you to get yours valued
@@SamVBikes My local dealer is a very friendly JD Racing in Plymouth, don't encourage me
You've got 4 days of me giggling after every corner... you'll hate it soon enough 😂
I bought mine April 21st I'm 5k miles in and loving it
Great to hear!! It's an awesome bike isn't it!
@@SamVBikes Yes a few thing is just don't get re kTM my pet hate is the Lighting when you have the DRL on you are NOT ALLOWED! to have your headlight on at the same time time? only full beam. I have many many extras fitted inc the KTM front spots but I would like my headlight ON! and the DRL at the same time but you cant. What happens is some car drivers seem to think you have flashed them and they pull out at junctions etc. Iv got use to the stupid cancel indicator switch. But Im getting weaving wobbling at speeds if you let one hand off the bars. Other than seat comfort which i now have the OEM seats The heated ergo seats(high) and the Orange Rally Ironing Board seat. I hope to flatten and bed at least one in LOL.... But other than that the bike is agile fast as fcuk and amazing. Im 54mpg just getting rid of MITAS tyres for some Conti Trail Attack 3's.
Ahh really? I'm sure I can have both DRL and headlight on. It's very decisive on when it wants to actually change but if I go into the menu and turn off my DRL, it puts the headlight on all the time, and the DRL stays on but quite dim compared to usual. I'll double check when I get on the bike next but I'm sure I have managed to get it to do that through the menu. For the high speed wobble, might be worth re-balancing your wheels. Ricardo Yeep had the same issue but it went away after he rebalanced the wheels. I've also found it's far more settled at high speed if you dial up the rear preload to around 70%/80%. That puts more weight on the front wheel and stops it moving about, at the sacrifice of a little wind protection. I'm looking forward to getting my OEM ergo seat. Still not in stock yet!!!
Great review! I have a 790 R and it takes a little while to register the fuel load after filling...but that's due to the saddlebag tank. Love the stability of them but HATE the totally inaccuracy of how much fuel is in there as in I cover 150m and its barely moved then its drops to a quarter of a tank left! Good job I know the fuel range on it. 😂
My 790 went in for new chain and sprockets last week and I was offered the opportunity to take the 1290s out. I declined because I knew I'd hate my 790 after that! 🤣
Thank you! Haha I know right!! Can get so much technology in a bike but not an accurate fuel gauge haha! The 790 is still an amazing bike... the 1290 is just a more license losing version 😂😂
@@SamVBikes Yes, these KTM's love to be rode hard. The 790 is amazing at launching itself in the air over relatively small bumps with a squirt of power..just awesome hooligan machines when you want that sort of thing! 🤣
Does the fuel gauge work accurately on the 1290s?
I'm still quite surprised how relaxed and comfortable they can be when you do manage to restrain yourself too haha. The fuel gauge seems to work well, although the estimated range isn't the best.. seems to stick to 170 miles, then suddenly drops to 120, then counts down properly. I'd assume that's more because it's estimating mileage for a full tank above the sensor.. then I suddenly drop below the sensor where It becomes more sensitive
Hi!
How is the heat from the engine? I live in country with hot summers and engine heat is problem.
Tnx.
Great bike btw 🙂
Hey! It is still warm but the design helps to direct heat away from you so it's nowhere near as hot to ride as the last model. Hope that helps!
how come the new 1290 super adventure R with a small screen got better wind protection ? ride both and i was so suprised !
The wind on the R hits your body, but the S gets directed up to your helmet meaning its a lot rougher. It's a poorly designed screen on the S!
Hi Sam. Great review mate. I've had mine for about a month and it's brilliant. Two niggles I have is buffering from the screen, I'll buy that Puig deflector and see what that does, the other niggle is bringing the bike to life after not using it for a couple of days. No matter what I do it won't wake up. I end up moving the bike a few inches then it'll wake up. Have you had any problem with the keyless start mate?
Thanks! The buffeting on screen was a real annoyance of mine too. I'm sure you can find other clip ons which are cheaper. No issues with turning it on, besides when the steering lock had pressure in it. I do have to press relatively hard on the button though. Try not to press the button more than once as it seems to turn it off mid-start up sequence if that makes sense
Thanks. Next time I'll check the steering lock. The bike is in the corner of the garage, perhaps the steering has pressure on it hence when I move it a bit it takes pressure off it. Cheers for the reply
No problem, hopefully that's the issue! Safe riding
Braaaap braaaap braaap, giggle giggle giggle 😂😂😂 Did a short testride, man this bike is a torque monster. Considering it, jist worried about ktm reliability and ownership experience.... 🙄
Haha that basically sums it up! So far the reliability has been faultless so hoping that stays that way. Nearly 4k miles in! I think the big one for most people is the dealer experience too, some dealers are great and some seem to not care so depends which dealer you have closest to you! I'm loving it so far though!
My fuel gauge never reads above 200 miles even though I know I can do slot more than that . Also mine always cost an extra couple quid to fill each time we stop , but I'm sure im the one having the most fun.
Good to know! I've never seen mine go about 180 yet so glad it's not just me! Agreed haha! Always the one with the biggest smile on my face
So can you assign the up and down preload to the custom buttons to avoid multiple button presses? Assuming I can’t flatfoot it. 6’0” and 32” inseam. Though I suspect my 25 stone weight may assist a bit in flat footing it😂
You won't be able to assign it that in depth but you could set the menu option to it so it's one click, into the menu then dial up and down. You'll be able to flat foot it I reckon. I'm nearly there and only 5ft9, 31 inch inseam
Can`t wait to get mine :D
Its awesome! Get off it with a smile on my face every time
@@SamVBikes been smiling since i won it :P
Haha!
So if you cannot do adaptive cruise in rally....Can you use standard cruise control in Rally mode?
Yes, that's all fine, just not the Adaptive
A black sharpie pen takes care of that orange stitching 😉👌
😂😂 knowing my luck, I'd mess that up and end up drawing on my brown jacket
Do you guys luv the 1090R ?
Gidday bud, what mount are you using on your helmet for the camera? Cheers
I couldn't get a decent one that wasn't horrendously ugly so I use Sugru. It's a mouldable putty which you mould to a standard gopro mount. It's solid and doesn't come off!
@@SamVBikes Thanks heaps
Quick question, with the puig deflector, are you still looking over the screen or you now looking through it?
I still look over the top of it but only just. I have it more parallel to the screen than above as they are designed to defuse the air rather than add extra height so hopefully it won't add too much more
@@SamVBikes thanks mate
Just a side note just changing my tyres and the bolts on front pcallipers and pinch nuts are crazy tight and bone dry when when you finally get them out . Copper greased before I replaced .
Thanks Gary! That's great to know too! Make sure I don't strip the threads haha!
@@SamVBikes this is curly Watts from Instagram.
Knew I recognised your name!
What is the quad lock model do you have on it ? Thanks
Its the motorcycle handlebar mount, with vibration dampener and more recently the knuckle adapter. Gives me a lot of flexibility with where it fits!
Hi
I thought I had better let you know that the puig 6319W deflector screen is NOT the one you have fitted.
I ordered it and installed this defector and it does not cover the width of original screen being only 230 wide....I haven't tried this yet to see how it fairs.
Ahh that's annoying. That is the part number I have on my order confirmation so I assume they sent me the wrong one, or put the wrong number on the confirmation! Sorry for that!
@@SamVBikes that's ok.....I thought they had sent me the wrong one until I checked the specs. I think it looks ok though, hope it works alright
Thats really annoying! I bought mine from Amazon I think so I assume wires are crossed on model somewhere along the line. Hope it works for you bud!
Hi, how is the high speed wobble? If theres any? They say around 200kph
I havent noticed any. The bars are very reactive at those kind of speeds meaning small inputs make huge movements but there's no wobble. A few people have said it was imbalance in the wheels that caused theirs
Thank you and enjoy the ride
Hi, 1290 outgoing model owner here.
At least my model, doesnt like to change "Load" wich is what i assume you reffer as '"Seat Height", WHILE the motorcycle is under load, or riding.
It does change the setting, the preload mech works up and down, but it grinds down inside.
I actually had to take my bike to the dealer for a "suspension reset" due to lock on the preload system, there they told me to not change this setting while on the bike, and mostly never while riding, if possible only change the setting with the bike on the center stand, but is fine on the lateral stand if there is no bags, panniers and such already attached.
This is at the manual, sadly, so listen to this words of caution hehe.
Is my belief that ktm should have locked the change of this setting on software when the bike is not on stand to avoid damages, they do have all the sensors needed for this.
Nonetheless, i hope you enjoy your toy as much i enjoy mine, this bike is a beast....
Thank you for the words of warning! The preload on this bike has a number of different settings. You can preload up and down which essentially lowers and raises the rear of the bike. You can have it in auto suspension mode which measures the amount of weight and adjusts accordingly. I've used it countless times while riding and no issues as yet, but always good to know about how others have found theirs! Thanks for watching and for the comment
I had a 2017 SD GT with the same issue on the preload adjuster. Had to have it “reset” once. Never had any more issues once I only adjusted it without load on the bike. That’s because the previous models used a servo. I believe the current models use hydraulic pressure for adjustment, so now it’s not a problem.
Picking mine up in 3 days. Have you had the run in service done yet?
Nice! Yes I have, I'm currently 3k miles deep on it and still loving it! There are a few niggles you'll get used to, and work out which revs you need to be at for a smooth quickshifter change and bits like that, but it's an awesome machine. Just done a 1100 mile Wales trip on it too which was a dream
@@SamVBikes excellent! Looking forward to it 👍
Hi Sam. Great reviews and general updates on the KTM. I am on the edge of a purchase and just have a running in question. Did you use the quick shift from day 1. I have seen another review where they said they would not use it for the first 1k miles! Just wondered what you did with yours and what the dealer recommended. Cheers Mike
Hey! Thank you. Appreciate the kind words! I didn't use it much for the first 100 miles or so, but after that just used it sparingly until the first service. Only in peak revs etc. I asked the dealer and they said its primarily not labouring the engine during run-in and snappy gear changes. Basically give the gear box time to bed in well and you'll be fine. With how refined and tested these engines are, I doubt it makes any difference! Cheers!
The arai tour fits well in the bike? Im looking for one
Yes! I've recently bought the Tour X4 and it's really comfy on the bike. No wind buffeting with the clip on screen either
@@SamVBikes
Even at higher speeds
I regularly ride on the motorway way my visor open doing around 70/80mph with no issue at all!
Also..I don't care to be, "locked" into my seating positions! The bench seats? Yeah, That's my 1st option for me.
The split seats are well sculpted at the back but you can still move around on them. I do like the bench seats
Sam Vincent Would you answer several questions: vibes at higher RPM - do they bother you? What option do you use do adaptive height? Have you had any yellow messages/errors during ride related to preload? I had 1h short test ride, and thinking about the bike. Preload was 0%, as I'm 5'7, not tested auto
Hey! Sure thing,
Vibes at high speeds are fine. Once you're in 6th gear at motorway speed, I barely notice them anymore than I did on my Tracer 700.
Adaptive ride height I use all the time which is just dialling up and down the preload. I normally use around 60% when riding to stop the bouncing rear end, then drop it to 20% when coming to a stop if I'm worried I won't get my feet down.
I got one preload error message the other day but I think that's because I accidently hit the kill switch after pressing the start button.. so it confused it and wasn't sure if I wanted to start or not. Turned it off and on again, and the error was gone. Never had a problem apart from that, so think it was just my fault by confusing the bike.
With the low seat and preload set to 0% when stopped, you should be okay. Auto suspension is really good, and separate to the preload so you could have auto suspension mode on and preload set to 0% if you wanted. Hope that helps
57mpg on a powerful superadventure. I'm impressed. Just 4 my amusement. What seat did the bike come with so that I can avoid it? Great review.
Edit:
I think you've spoilt yourself getting this bike since no other single bike will outdo it. Good luck being miserable on any other bike.
Its pretty good for such a big thing isn't it!
The stock seat is the 2 part split one that comes on all versions from factory. The 2 piece powerparts ergo seat is much better!
Haha agreed! I'm going to really struggle to ever get rid of this thing
@@SamVBikes thanks
Sam you must be local ….Hertford? Tewin?
Correct, I'm in Welwyn but spend a lot of time around Hertford/Tewin
Thoughts on SAS vs s1000xr?
Depends what you want from a bike. If you want an inline-4 sports bike with impeccable handling which also has the ability to go on a tour, XR all day long. If you get more of a thrill from a torquey wheelie machine like the Super Duke R, but also want to go touring and off road, SAS any day of the week. For me the XR was perfect, but almost too perfect... I get off it thinking it was amazing, because I'm stunned with how good it was at going quick... the SAS I can get off after doing 30mph and have jaw ache from smiling too much. There is a vid of me riding the XR earlier on the channel If you're interested. Hope that long answer helps 😂
I have tried already the XR, and I did like it a lot!
It is super comfortable, handles super well, lots of peak power.
However it lacks torque down low, which I am used to on my Yamaha MT09.
The XR I believe it can handle touring with 2 up easily , and will also be super fun on trackdays.
The SAS I have yet to test. The torque it has sounds fun!
However the handling might not be that good compared with the XR.
Touring it is best on the SAS due to the torque available.
I need to try it.
I have seen your videos on the XR and the SAS.
But since you got the SAS instead of the XR I was curious about it!
@@DEGMOTOV Agreed! The XR is a fantastic bike but it just lacked a bit of character, likely due to the lack of torque. Just got back from a 1100 mile trip on the SAS, and even loaded up, I never had an issue with power or grunt. Powering out of corners with 5 days worth of kit, tent and all, just felt like normal. You do need to set the SAS up to suit what you're doing though. Put it in sport mode suspension, rally mode throttle etc, and it handles like a dream and is basically an oversized superduke, but those modes would make touring hard work! Definitely worth giving it a go, but you might find it a bit vibey/clunky if youre used to a MT09. Not quite as smooth
pretty sure rally mode is not allowed when running in the bike, thats what they told me when i was asking for info, other then that good review
I'd assume that's because the throttle response is more aggressive so more likely to hit the run-in rev limiter quicker. Having said that, you can over rev it in any mode so not sure why they would tell you that
@@SamVBikes true, maybe they just have to, or to get you excited about the rally mode. how is it in rally mode, 3rd gesr power wheelies ?
Haha! Oh yeah! Rally mode and rally throttle, traction on 1... sometimes it power wheelies in 4th 😂
@@SamVBikes hell yea, cant wait to get it. thanks for the info bud. have fun and ride safe
Haha! No problem! I'm nearly 22k miles and still loving it! Enjoy and safe riding when you get it!
This or Ducati Multistrada V4?
Considering this is a 1 month ownership review, I think that answers your question haha
Not the same model, but I had a 2015 1200S which I so disliked and distrusted that I offed it before 10,000 miles. The list included: throttle maps that usually allowed an old lady in a Prius to outdrag you at the lights, but randomly would give you full power causing a wheelie; inaccurate gear indicator that would randomly cut the engine at the lights when it wandered into 1 or 2 instead of neutral; Sky Hook suspension that wanted to do tank slappies at medium speeds; a pile of metal shavings on the magnetic drain bolt up to 3/16 inch at oil changes.
I am very happy with the 1290SAS that replaced it.
The confusion in who you went to visit in Kent 😂
Haha! I just had a complete brain-fart 😂
Hi Sam, sorry but that wind deflector is ugly as hell! I prefer to have some wind that put that ugly piece of plastic... after all you are driving a motorcycle and the protection of the original windshield is already good...
Hey, The stock windshield caused me a lot of buffeting and made it very uncomfortable at motorway speed. Would be fine if it was clean air but it wasn't. A lot of people are finding the same. It's not a good looking solution but makes such a difference that its worth it.
@@SamVBikes to be honest, I don't feel all this buffeting. No more than the 1190, 1290 and new 1290 that I actually own. Apart from the fact that you have this appendix in the middle of your sight all the time, also you have to ride with style :)). My opinion.
Ciao e lamps
I won't hear you because your Sena will not connect if it rains haha
Hahaha yeah very true!
Don't buy a new seat. Cycling shorts will cure your problem for £15
the stock windshield is butt ugly a child could design a better one and adding that clip on peace does not help , take that off and let a shop that deals in poly- carbonate make a new one .
The clip on makes a huge difference for the money, and is far more accessible for most people than paying for a shop to design and make a completely new shield. Unless you get something the size of a barn door fitted to the front, it's not guaranteed to be any better as it won't have been wind tunnel tested either. Although in ideal world that would work, anyone can order a clip on and make their experience far better for not a huge amount of money