Wow...I had a NC700x DCT and loved it. I felt it was a great 45 mph bike for tooling the back roads. That was because of engine vibration mostly. You can ride at any speed, but, two speeds 45 and then 75 ish it is smooth enough. The drivetrain between your 1100 and my 700 are vastly different so I will say with a grain of salt that I just put it in manual with the switch on the right bar cluster and pick a gear as I would on a manual. City driving is GREAT, period. For cruising back road twisties at 50 the 700 was a blast. I raced dirt bikes. I had one of the first Husky 360 automatics way back when. It was traction control for dirt bikes! Auto shift up on muddy hills was crazy good. I have also ridden a Aprilla Mana quite a bit, an 850cc 8 speed automatic. I get the "free wheeling/no clutch" thing you are talking about at low speed. I learned to hold some throttle on and drag the brakes to compensate. An automatic has worked for me in many situations. They are heavier though...
I don't care one way or another but I love to clutch and shift. My company bought new trucks this year and we were forced to buy automatics or pay an extra $10,000 fee per truck to get a standard 10 speed manual. I had way more control with a manual transmission especially in slippery conditions in mud and snow making deliveries to jobsites. I think the automatics are great for people who need them or want them I just don't want to be forced to buy one eventually. I really feel like I work harder driving the automatic truck working around all the extra technology. Some new trucks see dark spots in the road or guardrails on curves and randomly lock up the breaks and it really gets your attention.
@@geraldburmeister9637 I’m a truck driver who made a living hauling heavy equipment and cut my teeth on a 5 and 4. I have no problem with dual clutch transmissions after trying one. In this high tech world the only outstanding feature of a manual clutch is that it makes a great theft deterrent. I also like driving a manual clutch but realize they are almost only available on bikes.
Sorry to hear about your problems. Sounds to me though you don’t have much riding experience. I’ve been riding since 1968 and tried one on a VFR. I thought it was actually wonderful. I also know that it is a preference with the Gold Wing riders which in my area you have to shell out 35-38k. If I were to buy a new bike it would have DCT.
There is a RUclips video counting down most sold 2024 motorcycle models in the USA. The 2nd most sold model is the Rebel 1100. Most Rebel 1100's are DCT's. I don't think I will have a problem selling my DCT in light of that demand. New riders and old riders, who don't care if it is manual or not, being the market. DCT Africa Twins and Honda Goldwings are pretty popular with all kinds of riders. Quick shifters are huge amongst hyper sports. They like the speed advantage of a Quick shifter. I don't see the DCT as anything different from a Quick Shifter except for finger triggers instead of a foot lever.
Cannot agree with you on anything you said (except that in today´s market) you should have taken the $8000 and that you Dont have the experience to make a judgement. I own a 2023 AfricaTwin DCT and your complaints about Torque are actually funny.
"it has too much torque to go slow" is a problem? I love the DCT and wish it was a 10 speed (probably weigh 30Kg) for fuel economy whilst touring. it might get pretty wide too! But still two shafts switching back and forth. #Engineering
@@thepadonthepondbythescum I am a bit confused by the video - the complaint of being unable to go slow is while riding in 6th gear? I haven't owned a DCT model myself, but my basic knowledge tells me that you can force it into a lower gear and lower speed if you want to. Am I wrong or is the argument provided completely unfounded? It's not like I ride around town doing 15 mph on a manual bike in 6th gear either.
It's amazing how much they are crying and criticising this man. And then you remember they ride DCT motorcycles and you just have to laugh and think of how adorable they are.
some people made a good point, you're comparing it to a manual, when in reality there's nothing to compare. I think you should try to adapt your ride style and accept it's drawbacks.
I don't think he had a riding style as a beginner. Like most beginners, I think he just wanted a new bike after riding his first street bike for a couple years. There are a lot of beginners starting off on Rebel 1100 DCT's as their first bike.
I have my 1100 DCT since Nov. 2023 and close to 14K km under the hood. I had none of the presented issues. It is as if you refer to a completely different bike. if the bike stalls by itself, there must be a mechanical or electronical failure in the mix. Same applies also for the inability to go slower than 30 mph. i would have had this issue presented to your Honda dealer...
Agree on the compromises of the DCT (I have an Africa Twin DCT). The biggest drawback generally is that you can't manually disengage the engine from the driveline. Once engaged, it's locked to the rear wheel and there's nothing you can do about it until you lurch to a stop at a light, etc. Also, lots of low speed maneuvering will smoke the clutches and it's a non-warranty repair by Honda. On the other hand, it's most important advantage is the reduction in "pilot workload". This is a huge safety feature, relieving the rider of the task of managing the engine. This is no small advantage, as this type of automation is a well known life-saver in aviation (eg. autopilots, etc.). it can also save your bacon in high workload situations in, say, crazy big city traffic or an interstate where all the SUVs are literally trying to end your life. So to me, the advantages outweigh the drawbacks. Interesting point about resale, though. I'm going to sell my AT (for other reasons, not the DCT) and so I will expect some difficulty moving it because of the DCT...
You first paragraph is not true. Honda will 100% warranty it. The issue I am sure you're bringing up is one "content creator" who intentionally blew out his DCT and Honda refused to honor it because they could tell it was customer abuse. Stop lying.
@@SimonRiley752 Excessive dragging of the clutch doing excessive amounts of low speed maneuvers _is_ customer abuse, according to Honda. Try it yourself - Go smoke a clutch or two practicing for your motor officer competitions on your goldwing DCT. Get back to us after you submit the paperwork and let us know how you made out.
I have never driven a DCT, but my experience with cars, is that while I have absolutely no issue with using a clutch and shifting gears manually, somehow trying to use a paddle shifter is just too much of a distraction. 🤔
@@peterwilson8039 Same here. I have an Africa Twin DCT and I literally never use the paddle shifters. When I want to shift gears, I ride my Super Cub. Tho, trust me, if you can ever learn to shift _that_ damn thing smoothly, then you are a _true_ motorcyclist... :)
@ I had this idea, and I think there is a commercially available setup where you can shift gears on a DCT with a foot shift, which would probably be more intuitive.
Seems like a skill issue. Jokes aside, my NC750 DCT is an absolute dream. I use the rear brake for slow speed stuff. Never have the lurch problem. Dont have the "Cant go slower issue", since its a "Slow" bike and putting yourself in the right gear/ride mode helps. Every single issue you have i dont have on the NC. But i guess that might be due to the smaller displacement engine.
I have the 1100 DCT since Nov. 2023. I never had "slow speed" problems. And the bike never stalled by itself. Despite the bigger displacement. So I agree with you when you say, that all the issues, we were told in the vid, are foreign to me as well.
Apart from the DCT, the Rebel is industrial-strength ugly. Clearly that's by intent. Also I can't understand why an 1100cc motorcycle can't go over 100 mph. It bothers me that Honda chose to use a speed limiter to deal with the high-speed instability issue, instead of just fixing the problem. Where's all that engineering talent that Honda is so widely respected for? I guess I just don't get the cruiser mindset.
I think depreciation on the rebel 11 is just really bad in general. I've seen them pop up in the 6k range with like 1000 miles on them, which is insane. The engine is really good but I feel like there aren't many people who want to buy a "beginner" liter bike.
Reports on most sold bikes in the USA, during 2024, say the Rebel 1100 was the second most sold bike at 40,000 units sold. Most of them were DCT. The Rebel's I bought, two of them for cheap, seemed to be sold by beginners who thought they wanted to ride motorcycles but didn't really enjoy the experience.
@@TheZX11 Wow I didn't realize they sold so many of them, I wonder why the used market is so low right now? Maybe it's just because of the seasonal demand being low.
@@Tarkov. I think seasonal. The Rebel groups still get stories of people paying $12.5k for new bikes with dealer fees and tax. So, not sure why OP couldn't sell his at $8k or $7k. My bicycle groups pay $7k for bicycles. $12+k for a top end Trek bicycle. So Rebels seem cheap for what you get.
Interesting, never thought much about the low speed issues (haven't ridden one though). Don't ever plan on buying a DCT anyway- probably have my last bike in life unless the bike dies. I like using the clutch and shifting when I want up and down. Thanks for the info.
First gear + rear brake is the way we get taught turning on a dime. You see the same in police bike gymkana. Especially watch their brake light. But then, I've yet to take a DCT for a spin look here for a DCT Ghymkana example ruclips.net/video/vi9Pc2OxrK4/видео.html
I don’t think this is a DCT issue, rebels are more of cruiser/sports bike, he didn’t know what he was buying, lack of experience and it being a 1100, might been overwhelming. That engine has punch. There different types of bikes for different people and that one may not be for him and that what’s he’s finding out. But being in 5th gear at slow speeds and not understanding why it not slowing down the way you want it to, that’s lack understanding, not the bike. I would be frustrated though if I spent the money on the bike, finding out it just wasn’t for me and having hard time selling it, I get that. I never been on a dct, but from what I’ve seen over the years this review most savage 🤣🤣🤣.
I had the Rebel 1100 manual transmission and that on/off throttle jerking (some call it "snatchy throttle") was unbearable. My bike was awful to ride in all conditions and i sold it after only 1 season of riding. Its not just a DCT problem, its a Rebel 1100 problem.
Try the new e-clutch, you still have a clutch and can regain that low-speed control. That drives so well, but I only know of the CB650R and CBR650R that support it. I hope it becomes the winning Honda solution.
Personally, while I think the DCT and the e-clutch are technically cool, I would never want to own a motorcycle that had either. I like using the clutch and shifting gears. I've been doing it for over half a century. I think it's sad that if I wanted to buy the Honda 650 four-cylinder motorcycle in the U.S. I would have to buy it with an e-clutch. If it's something that you want, that's cool for you, but what's wrong with me having the option to get what I want?
@peterwilson8039 Dude, the e-clutch has a normal clutch. There's a mechanical and secondary electronic clutch. The e-clutch is to avoid stalling and automatic shift, but you can engage the mechanical clutch through the lever, as always. The transmission is manual, but the e-clutch adds that second source of engagement, right where the cable you pull with the lever enters the transmission. A DCT is an automatic transmission by design.
@peterwilson8039 That should add about a cellphone of weight, a few bucks in BOM, a little bit of mechanical complexity. I don't think anybody is looking up close to the transmission case, it's just a little bump on top of it. Have you seen it from the outside and how it works inside? It's accessibility, they want to reach more customers, new customers, while still getting the hang of a manual.
I felt like the new eClutch would be best of both world. Just turn it off when you're riding spiritedly, and when you couldn't be bothered in a traffic jam, turn it back on.
The Honda 1100 is an awesome bike, but the DCT is not for everyone. I bought this motorcycle with a manual clutch and it rides just great. Fast, comfy and with style.
I’m listening to what you’re saying and I can’t believe it. Why don’t you just admit that you couldn’t adapt to riding a DCT instead of criticizing the technology? The problem isn’t with it, it’s with you. I ride a DCT, so I know what I’m talking about. Of course, the control of the bike is completely different compared to a traditional clutch. You’re just not capable of adapting-go back to a manual.
That's funny. I watched this video and never once thought he was criticising the technology. He was giving an account of his experience with riding a DCT motorcycle. Which is pretty much what we were promised from the title and thumbnail. I don't understand why you're so upset with the guy. This is my first time seeing any of his content but he seems thoughtful and honest.
Lifelong rider: I won't buy a dct (Hondas biggest mistake): If I want a scooter I'll buy a vespa. Clutch work and shifting are skills that are integral to the motorcycle "experience" not "a bother".
@@nohero178 not surprised to hear gold wings are selling with DCT in large numbers if that's true. Average gold wing rider is retired and loosing mobility and dexterity. That's exactly who DCT is great for. I hope to live long enough to bed a DCT bike myself some day. I'm glad this option exists to help riders extend their riding career if they get old or have disabilities.
Its the current economy/interest rate. Bike's aren't moving in the market. There's a lot of cheap inventory, thanks to fb marketplace. Certain Honda's like the Rebel 1100 cost a lot compared to the alternatives. The person who shops for a Rebel 1100, has lots of choice. You also have a sea of Rebel 500's which are super cheap in the used market.
I mean you are in the 5th gear and complaining, that the bike is going too fast? how about switch to manual shift and put it in the 1st gear? that should move much slower right?
Hey blockheads,….we don’t care that you love loud obnoxious sounds coming from the pipes. We don’t care if YOU think clutch is mandatory. Some people like new automation. This why the world is leaving us behind……
As a septuagenarian myself, I would argue that it's the young guys who are lazy and incapable. I've been using a clutch and shifting gears manually for over fifty years now.
I have a manual and a DCT bike and love them both. I have no problem with controlling either, it just takes a slightly different skill to get the most from a DCT
@@jonnsmith180 you forgot the Formula One drivers who be completely flat footed with an archaic manual. I use to drive an 18 speed Roadranger for a living and am very impressed by the double clutch transmission.
Meh. The DCT was developed for racing when they wanted a faster shifting six speed. Banned in motorcycle racing because it was too advantageous with launch control and instant shifts. I'm the rider bored with seeing again, and yet again, another manual six speed. DCT is a nice change of pace.
The Rebel DCT is one of the best bikes made! No problems at low speed and a blast at highway speeds! Sounds like a skills issue!
Wow...I had a NC700x DCT and loved it. I felt it was a great 45 mph bike for tooling the back roads. That was because of engine vibration mostly. You can ride at any speed, but, two speeds 45 and then 75 ish it is smooth enough. The drivetrain between your 1100 and my 700 are vastly different so I will say with a grain of salt that I just put it in manual with the switch on the right bar cluster and pick a gear as I would on a manual. City driving is GREAT, period. For cruising back road twisties at 50 the 700 was a blast. I raced dirt bikes. I had one of the first Husky 360 automatics way back when. It was traction control for dirt bikes! Auto shift up on muddy hills was crazy good. I have also ridden a Aprilla Mana quite a bit, an 850cc 8 speed automatic. I get the "free wheeling/no clutch" thing you are talking about at low speed. I learned to hold some throttle on and drag the brakes to compensate. An automatic has worked for me in many situations. They are heavier though...
I don't care one way or another but I love to clutch and shift. My company bought new trucks this year and we were forced to buy automatics or pay an extra $10,000 fee per truck to get a standard 10 speed manual. I had way more control with a manual transmission especially in slippery conditions in mud and snow making deliveries to jobsites. I think the automatics are great for people who need them or want them I just don't want to be forced to buy one eventually. I really feel like I work harder driving the automatic truck working around all the extra technology. Some new trucks see dark spots in the road or guardrails on curves and randomly lock up the breaks and it really gets your attention.
@@geraldburmeister9637 I’m a truck driver who made a living hauling heavy equipment and cut my teeth on a 5 and 4. I have no problem with dual clutch transmissions after trying one. In this high tech world the only outstanding feature of a manual clutch is that it makes a great theft deterrent. I also like driving a manual clutch but realize they are almost only available on bikes.
Sorry to hear about your problems. Sounds to me though you don’t have much riding experience. I’ve been riding since 1968 and tried one on a VFR. I thought it was actually wonderful. I also know that it is a preference with the Gold Wing riders which in my area you have to shell out 35-38k. If I were to buy a new bike it would have DCT.
Great write-up. Learnt a lot. Motorcycles and clutches belong with each other.
Ok boomer.
There is a RUclips video counting down most sold 2024 motorcycle models in the USA. The 2nd most sold model is the Rebel 1100. Most Rebel 1100's are DCT's. I don't think I will have a problem selling my DCT in light of that demand. New riders and old riders, who don't care if it is manual or not, being the market. DCT Africa Twins and Honda Goldwings are pretty popular with all kinds of riders.
Quick shifters are huge amongst hyper sports. They like the speed advantage of a Quick shifter. I don't see the DCT as anything different from a Quick Shifter except for finger triggers instead of a foot lever.
3:40 if you want to go slower maybe don't be in 5th gear...
I appreciate your information, I am rethinking what I want now.
Cannot agree with you on anything you said (except that in today´s market) you should have taken the $8000 and that you Dont have the experience to make a judgement. I own a 2023 AfricaTwin DCT and your complaints about Torque are actually funny.
"it has too much torque to go slow" is a problem? I love the DCT and wish it was a 10 speed (probably weigh 30Kg) for fuel economy whilst touring. it might get pretty wide too! But still two shafts switching back and forth. #Engineering
@@thepadonthepondbythescum I am a bit confused by the video - the complaint of being unable to go slow is while riding in 6th gear? I haven't owned a DCT model myself, but my basic knowledge tells me that you can force it into a lower gear and lower speed if you want to. Am I wrong or is the argument provided completely unfounded? It's not like I ride around town doing 15 mph on a manual bike in 6th gear either.
Raced for years yes I know how to use a clutch. Have Africa twin Dct love it
Yep, clutch or not is fine. The Rebel DCT was something new and different to try, for me. It is fine/fun to ride and I still have my sport bikes.
Well, the DCT fanboy brigade certainly seems to be out in force today.
It's amazing how much they are crying and criticising this man. And then you remember they ride DCT motorcycles and you just have to laugh and think of how adorable they are.
some people made a good point, you're comparing it to a manual, when in reality there's nothing to compare.
I think you should try to adapt your ride style and accept it's drawbacks.
I don't think he had a riding style as a beginner. Like most beginners, I think he just wanted a new bike after riding his first street bike for a couple years. There are a lot of beginners starting off on Rebel 1100 DCT's as their first bike.
I have my 1100 DCT since Nov. 2023 and close to 14K km under the hood. I had none of the presented issues. It is as if you refer to a completely different bike.
if the bike stalls by itself, there must be a mechanical or electronical failure in the mix. Same applies also for the inability to go slower than 30 mph. i would have had this issue presented to your Honda dealer...
Agree on the compromises of the DCT (I have an Africa Twin DCT). The biggest drawback generally is that you can't manually disengage the engine from the driveline. Once engaged, it's locked to the rear wheel and there's nothing you can do about it until you lurch to a stop at a light, etc. Also, lots of low speed maneuvering will smoke the clutches and it's a non-warranty repair by Honda.
On the other hand, it's most important advantage is the reduction in "pilot workload". This is a huge safety feature, relieving the rider of the task of managing the engine. This is no small advantage, as this type of automation is a well known life-saver in aviation (eg. autopilots, etc.). it can also save your bacon in high workload situations in, say, crazy big city traffic or an interstate where all the SUVs are literally trying to end your life. So to me, the advantages outweigh the drawbacks.
Interesting point about resale, though. I'm going to sell my AT (for other reasons, not the DCT) and so I will expect some difficulty moving it because of the DCT...
You first paragraph is not true. Honda will 100% warranty it. The issue I am sure you're bringing up is one "content creator" who intentionally blew out his DCT and Honda refused to honor it because they could tell it was customer abuse. Stop lying.
@@SimonRiley752 Excessive dragging of the clutch doing excessive amounts of low speed maneuvers _is_ customer abuse, according to Honda. Try it yourself - Go smoke a clutch or two practicing for your motor officer competitions on your goldwing DCT. Get back to us after you submit the paperwork and let us know how you made out.
I have never driven a DCT, but my experience with cars, is that while I have absolutely no issue with using a clutch and shifting gears manually, somehow trying to use a paddle shifter is just too much of a distraction. 🤔
@@peterwilson8039 Same here. I have an Africa Twin DCT and I literally never use the paddle shifters. When I want to shift gears, I ride my Super Cub. Tho, trust me, if you can ever learn to shift _that_ damn thing smoothly, then you are a _true_ motorcyclist... :)
@ I had this idea, and I think there is a commercially available setup where you can shift gears on a DCT with a foot shift, which would probably be more intuitive.
Yeah, motorcycles are hobby machines and people prefer manual clutches.
Seems like a skill issue.
Jokes aside, my NC750 DCT is an absolute dream.
I use the rear brake for slow speed stuff.
Never have the lurch problem.
Dont have the "Cant go slower issue", since its a "Slow" bike and putting yourself in the right gear/ride mode helps.
Every single issue you have i dont have on the NC.
But i guess that might be due to the smaller displacement engine.
I have the 1100 DCT since Nov. 2023. I never had "slow speed" problems. And the bike never stalled by itself. Despite the bigger displacement. So I agree with you when you say, that all the issues, we were told in the vid, are foreign to me as well.
Apart from the DCT, the Rebel is industrial-strength ugly. Clearly that's by intent. Also I can't understand why an 1100cc motorcycle can't go over 100 mph. It bothers me that Honda chose to use a speed limiter to deal with the high-speed instability issue, instead of just fixing the problem. Where's all that engineering talent that Honda is so widely respected for? I guess I just don't get the cruiser mindset.
I think depreciation on the rebel 11 is just really bad in general.
I've seen them pop up in the 6k range with like 1000 miles on them, which is insane. The engine is really good but I feel like there aren't many people who want to buy a "beginner" liter bike.
Reports on most sold bikes in the USA, during 2024, say the Rebel 1100 was the second most sold bike at 40,000 units sold. Most of them were DCT. The Rebel's I bought, two of them for cheap, seemed to be sold by beginners who thought they wanted to ride motorcycles but didn't really enjoy the experience.
@@TheZX11 Wow I didn't realize they sold so many of them, I wonder why the used market is so low right now? Maybe it's just because of the seasonal demand being low.
@@Tarkov. I think seasonal. The Rebel groups still get stories of people paying $12.5k for new bikes with dealer fees and tax. So, not sure why OP couldn't sell his at $8k or $7k.
My bicycle groups pay $7k for bicycles. $12+k for a top end Trek bicycle. So Rebels seem cheap for what you get.
Interesting, never thought much about the low speed issues (haven't ridden one though). Don't ever plan on buying a DCT anyway- probably have my last bike in life unless the bike dies. I like using the clutch and shifting when I want up and down. Thanks for the info.
First gear + rear brake is the way we get taught turning on a dime. You see the same in police bike gymkana. Especially watch their brake light. But then, I've yet to take a DCT for a spin
look here for a DCT Ghymkana example ruclips.net/video/vi9Pc2OxrK4/видео.html
I don’t think this is a DCT issue, rebels are more of cruiser/sports bike, he didn’t know what he was buying, lack of experience and it being a 1100, might been overwhelming. That engine has punch. There different types of bikes for different people and that one may not be for him and that what’s he’s finding out. But being in 5th gear at slow speeds and not understanding why it not slowing down the way you want it to, that’s lack understanding, not the bike. I would be frustrated though if I spent the money on the bike, finding out it just wasn’t for me and having hard time selling it, I get that. I never been on a dct, but from what I’ve seen over the years this review most savage 🤣🤣🤣.
I had the Rebel 1100 manual transmission and that on/off throttle jerking (some call it "snatchy throttle") was unbearable. My bike was awful to ride in all conditions and i sold it after only 1 season of riding. Its not just a DCT problem, its a Rebel 1100 problem.
Try the new e-clutch, you still have a clutch and can regain that low-speed control. That drives so well, but I only know of the CB650R and CBR650R that support it. I hope it becomes the winning Honda solution.
Personally, while I think the DCT and the e-clutch are technically cool, I would never want to own a motorcycle that had either. I like using the clutch and shifting gears. I've been doing it for over half a century. I think it's sad that if I wanted to buy the Honda 650 four-cylinder motorcycle in the U.S. I would have to buy it with an e-clutch. If it's something that you want, that's cool for you, but what's wrong with me having the option to get what I want?
@peterwilson8039 Dude, the e-clutch has a normal clutch. There's a mechanical and secondary electronic clutch. The e-clutch is to avoid stalling and automatic shift, but you can engage the mechanical clutch through the lever, as always.
The transmission is manual, but the e-clutch adds that second source of engagement, right where the cable you pull with the lever enters the transmission. A DCT is an automatic transmission by design.
@ The e-clutch adds unnecessary weight, expense and mechanical complexity. Also it’s ugly.
@peterwilson8039 That should add about a cellphone of weight, a few bucks in BOM, a little bit of mechanical complexity. I don't think anybody is looking up close to the transmission case, it's just a little bump on top of it.
Have you seen it from the outside and how it works inside? It's accessibility, they want to reach more customers, new customers, while still getting the hang of a manual.
I felt like the new eClutch would be best of both world. Just turn it off when you're riding spiritedly, and when you couldn't be bothered in a traffic jam, turn it back on.
The Honda 1100 is an awesome bike, but the DCT is not for everyone. I bought this motorcycle with a manual clutch and it rides just great. Fast, comfy and with style.
I’m listening to what you’re saying and I can’t believe it. Why don’t you just admit that you couldn’t adapt to riding a DCT instead of criticizing the technology? The problem isn’t with it, it’s with you. I ride a DCT, so I know what I’m talking about. Of course, the control of the bike is completely different compared to a traditional clutch. You’re just not capable of adapting-go back to a manual.
Stop being a dick head. This was simply a point of view of HIS experience. He made that clear several times. He doesn't have to 'admit' anything.
That's funny. I watched this video and never once thought he was criticising the technology. He was giving an account of his experience with riding a DCT motorcycle. Which is pretty much what we were promised from the title and thumbnail. I don't understand why you're so upset with the guy. This is my first time seeing any of his content but he seems thoughtful and honest.
Lifelong rider: I won't buy a dct (Hondas biggest mistake): If I want a scooter I'll buy a vespa. Clutch work and shifting are skills that are integral to the motorcycle "experience" not "a bother".
Honda's biggest mistake, yet 2/3 of all Gold Wing buyers choose DCT? Please tell me how it's a mistake, unc.
@@nohero178 not surprised to hear gold wings are selling with DCT in large numbers if that's true. Average gold wing rider is retired and loosing mobility and dexterity. That's exactly who DCT is great for. I hope to live long enough to bed a DCT bike myself some day. I'm glad this option exists to help riders extend their riding career if they get old or have disabilities.
You got a DCT and you say it wasn't the same??????
So, the engine breaking works when the rear break is depressed or the throttle is released?
Its the current economy/interest rate. Bike's aren't moving in the market. There's a lot of cheap inventory, thanks to fb marketplace. Certain Honda's like the Rebel 1100 cost a lot compared to the alternatives. The person who shops for a Rebel 1100, has lots of choice. You also have a sea of Rebel 500's which are super cheap in the used market.
Dude should’ve bought a scooter
I mean you are in the 5th gear and complaining, that the bike is going too fast? how about switch to manual shift and put it in the 1st gear? that should move much slower right?
Hey blockheads,….we don’t care that you love loud obnoxious sounds coming from the pipes. We don’t care if YOU think clutch is mandatory. Some people like new automation. This why the world is leaving us behind……
Wrong channel?
Begin to heal from starting to ride your motorcycle oppose to driving, drive a car, ok?
Only two types buy automatic bikes. Lazy or incapable old riders or those who cannot master a clutch.
As a septuagenarian myself, I would argue that it's the young guys who are lazy and incapable. I've been using a clutch and shifting gears manually for over fifty years now.
I have a manual and a DCT bike and love them both. I have no problem with controlling either, it just takes a slightly different skill to get the most from a DCT
@@jonnsmith180 you forgot the Formula One drivers who be completely flat footed with an archaic manual. I use to drive an 18 speed Roadranger for a living and am very impressed by the double clutch transmission.
I mean there's also handicapped people with hand or foot issues.
Meh. The DCT was developed for racing when they wanted a faster shifting six speed. Banned in motorcycle racing because it was too advantageous with launch control and instant shifts. I'm the rider bored with seeing again, and yet again, another manual six speed. DCT is a nice change of pace.
Wow....If your having trouble handling an automatic bike I doubt you'll do any better on a manual.
A lot of whining here. This is all 100% a you problem. Maybe you shouldn't be riding?