Yeah there’s no such thing as reconciliation or Appeasment with idealistic expansionist regimes like Putin’s, they won’t take any loss lying down and the moment they feel the heat’s off them they’ll be back at it again, this time they’ll probably have learned from their mistakes as well, the only way to prevent a future conflict is to make sure this regime has not enough power or capability to invade another country again.
I don’t think politicians in the US seem to understand this: If Russia wants to escalate, it will. And if it doesn’t, it won’t. It doesn’t seem to follow logic, it follows the will of one particularly unstable person.
Unless Russia's escalation is entirely related to Nato action which is why this whole war started to begin with also Ukraine can't use Nato long range weapons without Nato satellites so Nato aims Ukraine pulls the trigger but we're not supposed to say the quiet part outload
@@DarthVader-yd9id did NATO involvement trigger the war in Ichkeria? In Georgia? Did NATO involvement trigger Crimean occupation? Russia is an expansionist fascist empire, in need of land bridges to warm water ports, and a failing dictator, whose ratings always fly into the stratosphere when he announces a new war effort. No, NATO is not the reason. Why aren't they attacking Finland then, or any of the Baltics? You have been duped, your analysis is flawed, read less theory and help your community more. Also, donate to Ukraine
@@hellyrazr9459you’re a moron if you believe this. The war started because of Russian territorial ambitions, they are not really interested in “protecting Russian speaking peoples.”
@@hellyrazr9459Cool story. Russia is ruined either way, it’s a matter of when rather than if. So much for re-building the Soviet Union. You’ll be lucky to still have the Russian Federation 10 years from now.
Is it? Would you rather your country men die in this war then? America chose between letting Ukraine fight it with NATOs credit card or sending young men of their own to die.
There is no reconciliation as long as Putin lives. So, let's not forget that appeasement doesn't prevent World Wars, it *causes* them. Poland is spot on, as usual.
Democracy!! We should have constitutional republics not democracy. Democracy is just same wolf different clothes. We all talk about how sacred democracy is . That's just conditioning.we literally do nothing but complain about the people we vote in
India had been against democracy the whole time. Inside its own country they've got the fascist BJP and outside in the neighborhood they've been promoting dictators. Look up Indian support for the Myanmar military junta and also the recent Bangladeshi revolution which removed an India supported dictator.
@@robmyers8948 the Minsk agreements Russia broke every chance they got then blamed Ukraine? get a grip, if Russia had not invaded Ukraine in 2014 the Minsk agreements wouldn't even exist. you need to stop trolling for Russia and learn some actual history.
@@jaimes350 NATO 2002 summit in Prague started NATO expansion against Russian wishes, followed by further expansion invites in 2008 to Ukraine & Georgia, followed by the 2014 Ukraine coup, installing MI6 and CIA regime, training Ukraine army over 8 years…
@@luigimrlgaming9484 what? Where was that implied in my comment? The implication(which I thought was clear) is that when Wagner started towards Moscow it made the RuAF second best in Russia...
If you appease victory to peoples peddaling the appeasement argument we'll prove that we don't ever learn anything from history and actualy enjoy being played by Bankers who gonna lizzard cuz that's what lizars bankers do.
If Ukraine was allowed to do whatever & had all the right weapons, ammo, products, supplies, support, they could have already taken Putin out of power for a regime change
@@kevfit4333it's not the first nuclear strike, you know. When one nuclear state launches nukes, other nuclear states don't wait for that nuke to reach its (unknown) target. They launch a response nuke missiles. So a lot of places in the world will be glassed, including russia.
@kevfit4333 you really think that the Russian military would allow the launching of nukes for one man's desires? They know full well what the retaliation would be and wouldn't risk it. They'd throw putin out of power and call their armed forces back home rather than risk destroying their military forces and having Russia become a landmark for future warnings
Frankly... Yeah. They've shown time and time and time again that they do not want democracy, they do not want political freedom, and they *especially* don't want their neighbours trying that ****. They want a strong authoritarian bent on expansionism. Russia needs to get it's act together and start being a country in the 21st century, much like how it was dragged kicking and screaming into the 20th.
@@evanoconnell9448 Germany was occupied and de-nazified. Unless Russia goes through the same process, it should forever be a pariah state that has no dealings with any civilised nation. Let them sit in the p!ss with north korea.
@@evanoconnell9448that why in WW2 it got even worst punishment and aplitted up, wouldn't be surprise if Russia as we know fragmented into smaller states
@jubal6654 That is precisely what the Larry Fink's, George Soros's, Klaus Schwab's, etcetera, of the world are keeping this war going and maintaining the propaganda in the mainstream and social media spaces (among other things) for. They want nothing less than the partition of the current and, largely historically as well, Russian nation-state to facilitate the formation of smaller, less powerful, and thus less able to resist the hegemony/domination by the individuals & entities/companies/corporations/etcetera who want to exploit the immense amount of resources like fossil fuels, rare earth minerals, precious metals, industrial ores/raw materials, and who knows what else. It also eliminates one of, if not the only, (mostly European, population-wise at least) European nations that's a bastion of conservative, Christian, non-"woke" values like ultra-radical "feminism," over-toleration & promotion of radicalized, degenerate homosexuality, ever increasing normalization & widespread acceptance of abortion as birth control, and the destruction & demonization of the masculine male and traditional family unit, among much more, all of which they want gone & forgotten like they're trying to do here.
Tell me about it so I just went to Wendy's got me a tasty freedom hamburger if you know what I'm saying that good old baconator and I blew out the toilet cleared out the old pipes. If you know what I'm saying my fat ass was barely on it. Almost shit on the floor if you know what I'm saying. 😊
@@tinycockjock1967 Iran crying because they are attacked back after constantly funding terrorists for decades? Iran crying after trump turned their terror general into hamburger paste? Israel now getting full justification to wipe yall off the map? Which one?
Actually China, North Korea and Cuba sent “troops” to Russia. (They’re actually prisoners who are forced to fight because it’s either prison for life or fight for Russia)
Pootin portrayed himself as a strong man. But he surrounded himself with weaklings and corruption. Now that's coming to fruition, his international allies are recognizing it and heading for the exits. Pootin will be making his exit soon.
Why would we care to reconcile with Russia. Norway can provide 100% of the gas and natural gas that Russia did alone. And as far as other recourses go we have so many different options. Russia needs to be reconciling with us
You do realize Russia is more than just a bad guy with gasoline right? They’re a nation, and if we don’t reconcile, then they will come after us forever because we have shown no ounce of forgiveness nor mercy for them.
@@QuickScopeChris how’s there gonna be a world war 3? You realize if like Sweden Poland and the balcans joined in the war Russia would be completely overwhelmed in months? Not even. All Europe. America alone could destroy every single Russian milltary base from The skies in a matter of hours. Where is this imaginary threat of world war 3? Can also have the technology of to easily erase their nukes on launch before they can go off. So what are you so worried about russias 2 ally in North Korea and Belarus ? Really bro do you understand any geo politics?
@@QuickScopeChris Whilst a major conflict between Russia and the west would be devastating it is already known to be coming soon. Russia is at its lowest point, mine as well finish the rest of conflict on the European continent
Norway couldn't, this is the exact reason why the EU went to Qatar after the Russian Invasion and went to Azerbaijan after 7th October in Gaza due to Qatar support towards Hamas. If Norway can, Brussels wouldnt bother to play blind to Azeri warcrimes against Armenians
Why then after 2 years is Ukraine just now reaching inside Russian territory? After Ukraine was destroyed first? Makes me wonder if anyone is really paying attention. No to mention it isn't Ukraine fighting this war, it's always been NATO and the US...
@@platypus1287 Pull your head out & stop spreading LIES! Russia would have lost to Germany if USA would not have armed them. That was 80 years ago. Russia has never helped anyone, as it's a dictatorship. Learn to appreciate freedom & democracy or STFU!!!!!
@@platypus1287 with America's money, supplies and not to mention the multiple fronts that England, America and French resistance fighter created to distract Germany 😂😂 you fool don't forget you was in bed with Germany before turning your back on them. You're the Nazi supporters except your dictator Stalin got paranoid about Hitler and turned on him 🤡
@@platypus1287saved? They basically took over half of it after ww2 and let’s not add the fact that they tried to starve Berlin so they would turn to communism and let’s not also add the fact that America sent the designer of one of our largest cities and we helped start their industrial revolution and with that also sent about 14 billion dollars and the fact that ww2 wasn’t one country but many fighting against Germany but America and Russia I will give credit they did a lot but it was a combined effort OH and that any attempt of reform in the satellite countries were brutally supressed
This is like when two men fight but one of them has their girlfriend trying to hold their arms back. She may be trying to help but all she’s doing is getting her man punched in the face
Considering how they keep losing them and abandoning turns out that was a good idea. Just today they left an almost fully intact Abrams just sitting there inside Russia with nothing but track damage.
The US is sending supplies with strings attached. It’s not just hears a bunch of stuff use it however you want, it’s here’s a bunch of stuff you can only use it to do XYZ. The US literally refused to send long range missiles so that Ukraine couldn’t hit within Russian territory. Then when Ukraine finally got close enough to use the missiles they did have they still had to get the US to say ok you can use it for that
@@Cameron0214If the tracks aren’t working the tank can’t go anywhere. What do you want them to do sit there out in the open in enemy territory. What’s destroyed the most tanks in this war on both sides is drones. So yeah if something stops working or they get a report of possible drones in the area the safest thing to do is abandon the tank. Not sit there out in the open and wait for someone who might be able to come and fix it
Russia wanted a fight but to have ukraine have a hand tied behind their back and somehow we went "yeah that seems fair" If we allowed ukraine to do what russia does this war will be over in days if not hours.
Except its Ukraine thats losing to Russia. Large amounts of land in eastern Ukraine is currently being overrun by Russia as Ukrainian defeanders there can't hold them back. Bakhmut, Marinka, and Avdiivka are all far behind Russian lines, especially Avdiivka.
The US is far too concerned with keeping the world borders exactly as they are. Let Ukraine do unto Russia as Russia has done unto them. They'll lose steam eventually, and by that time Russia will be more willing to offer peaceful negotiations with appeasements towards Ukraine. Will we have to draw new maps? Most definitely. Will it be worth it? Oh yeah
India never allied themselves with Russia. India's concern is the potential formal alliance between the Northern Bear (Russia) and the Eastern Dragon (China). If that happens, India is doomed. Sri lanka and Pakistan continue to ally themselves with China. Bangladesh is unstable, Myanmar is in a civil war. By maintaining a good relation with Russia, it hoped to be a wedge in the Moscow-Beijing relation. Last time India hoped for Western help, The west did help. They helped Pakistan, India's eternal enemy
@themsky8905 Oh, yeah, I never meant to imply that India is already allied with Russia. Just condemned the potential. I'd love to learn more about Amero-Paki relations and why we have strong ties with them. Could be a biproduct of WWII, could be America's desperation for allies and/or footholds into the oil rich Middle East like Israel, could have to do with their possession of nuclear weapons. Got some reading to do.
this war has been going on for like 9 years they're tired of fighting. They want to end this shit already but everyone's too chicken shit to just send it.
It's kinda true though while they've been providing stuff the restrictions have allowed russia to take advantage and avoid the most devastating blows by making sure they keep there people in areas where ukriane isn't allowed to go full force.
Putin already said if America doesn't stop intervening and supplying weapons and then claiming ignorance that he will supply Korea with weapons and they wouldn't be responsible for how Korea uses them
If the US is gonna let Israel defend itself how it want then they need to let Ukraine’s defend itself how it wants to. Why should Ukraine people be the only ones to feel the affects of a war that Russia started.
Well that would be the moral reason, but also it is in our best interest to stop Putin. To be really frank big wars are bad for free trade and therefore bad for our ecconomies around the world. (Yes the military complex is happy but that Industrie is nothing compared to all the rest). So making sure that Russia fails epicly in Ukraine and Russia being far worse off afterwards is what we want to happen. Just because that outcome is the most efficient at detering other actors of similar ideas.
Russia doesn’t need a reason to escalate, they do it all on their own
Dirt on his shoe? ESCALATION!!!!
@@Tinman-1 Russian bots don't pay taxes.
@@Tinman-1Weak, months old disproven troll. Good luck getting a job when the Kremlin's money runs out.
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Putin tried to talk about peace 5 times but zelenski lox don't need it because he keeps getting money from USA. Fk uKraine fk the war.
"Reconciliation" with Russia sounds an awful lot like Appeasement.
yes, but the difference between hitlers Germany and Putins Russia is that Putin would never ever dream of invading Europe.
Doesn't it though?👌
because it is! meanwhile, the US has a space program with Russia, propping up the Russian space program!
I mean it doesn’t 😂😂 if it was appeasement it would be appeasement to Putin himself not the whole damn country 😂
Yeah there’s no such thing as reconciliation or Appeasment with idealistic expansionist regimes like Putin’s, they won’t take any loss lying down and the moment they feel the heat’s off them they’ll be back at it again, this time they’ll probably have learned from their mistakes as well, the only way to prevent a future conflict is to make sure this regime has not enough power or capability to invade another country again.
India canceled more russian arm sales cause the war showed the world how much better ours is than theirs 😂
Right on brother! 🤣
Made In USA!
@@Realfrenchieonly thing in the US that isn’t made in China
@@gvudrt8266Actually Mexico is now the largest American trade partner.
@@MacTac141 for now, check that loop.....
Ukraine is being held back, but not russia
If Russia didn't hold back, it would have been just another Fallujah.
Dude they only thing russia hasnt utilized are nuclear weapons @@nikitazubin3415
@@nikitazubin3415 really? So is that why they're the ones being invaded now?
@@nikitazubin3415 Just get off your backside and open your eyes.
@@nikitazubin3415 this all started with the expectations this would be a 5 day war. How many years ago was that?
america and germany giving the most but also stopping them, why?
They owe us money
Because Russia can use it as an excuse to launch nukes
It’s a dangerous game
Because Russia keeps threatening nukes
Fear.
“cause russia big and scary” -every american politician
Let them have as much freedom as Russia took. Let em go all the way to Moscow if they want.
It will be chaos if real elite army doing it. Even Wagner almost reach Moscow. What if there are real plan and go professionally.
imagine if ukraine forces Russia to surrender lmaooo
@@Derp0ut5We don't need to imagine, we just need to wait a few months.
Said like every clown said since 1147😂
I'd like to see Russia's permanent seat on the UN Security Council given to Ukraine.
I don’t think politicians in the US seem to understand this: If Russia wants to escalate, it will. And if it doesn’t, it won’t. It doesn’t seem to follow logic, it follows the will of one particularly unstable person.
Unless Russia's escalation is entirely related to Nato action which is why this whole war started to begin with also Ukraine can't use Nato long range weapons without Nato satellites so Nato aims Ukraine pulls the trigger but we're not supposed to say the quiet part outload
they do not care about Ukraine and people there. they just want half of empty country for their plans and to damage Russia
@@DarthVader-yd9id did NATO involvement trigger the war in Ichkeria? In Georgia? Did NATO involvement trigger Crimean occupation?
Russia is an expansionist fascist empire, in need of land bridges to warm water ports, and a failing dictator, whose ratings always fly into the stratosphere when he announces a new war effort.
No, NATO is not the reason. Why aren't they attacking Finland then, or any of the Baltics?
You have been duped, your analysis is flawed, read less theory and help your community more. Also, donate to Ukraine
facts
Who should be escorted off the premises..
WHY DO WE NEED TO RECONCILE WITH RUSSIA?! WHAT?!
Eventually the world will have to reconcile with Russia. Nobody needs constant conflict
Trade.
Oil
They don’t wanna risk Putin taking the nuclear option by pushing in too quickly.
Because you can't defeat russia.
Screw reconciliation
Fight to win and defeat your enemy or go home.
Take the gloves off of Ukraine. Russia is the escalating party in this. And if they want to collectively pout and be difficult to work with, let them.
Banderas attacking Russian speaking citizens back in 2014 is who started clown 🤡
@@hellyrazr9459you’re a moron if you believe this. The war started because of Russian territorial ambitions, they are not really interested in “protecting Russian speaking peoples.”
@@hellyrazr94592014! What does that have to do with now?
@@hellyrazr9459Cool story. Russia is ruined either way, it’s a matter of when rather than if.
So much for re-building the Soviet Union. You’ll be lucky to still have the Russian Federation 10 years from now.
@@hellyrazr9459 hmm….. that’s sounds familiar, possibly from another dictator who wanted to expand his territory…..
I agree with Ukraine and Poland.
Absolutely
No one gives a shit what you agree on
Warmonger
@@lazarus_8589FYI, there's already a war
@@lazarus_8589 right because their wasn’t a war happening already from a country that wanted this war from the start.
Russia should have thought before they started sh*t.
Poland's itching😂
The us has become so gloves on. It's sad
It has NOT, its only fearing for itself.
Is it? Would you rather your country men die in this war then? America chose between letting Ukraine fight it with NATOs credit card or sending young men of their own to die.
Poland, Poland, Poland….i say let em at it. It’s clear they want some lol
Poland is screaming for its turn 🤣
There is no reconciliation as long as Putin lives. So, let's not forget that appeasement doesn't prevent World Wars, it *causes* them.
Poland is spot on, as usual.
The last time Europe appeased a dictator the poles had to fight half a century for their freedom again.
People often forget about that 😂@@djcokeisnotreal9810
There is no reconciliation as long as people who voted for putin are able to vote.
Let that sink in for a moment.
@@real_andriiPretty sure the elections in Russia are rigged, so moot point.
@@real_andrii LMAO Russia isn't a democracy, so not quite. Short of an uprising, only the Kremlin decides matters of foreign policy.
yes India, choose democracy
Democracy!! We should have constitutional republics not democracy. Democracy is just same wolf different clothes. We all talk about how sacred democracy is . That's just conditioning.we literally do nothing but complain about the people we vote in
India had been against democracy the whole time. Inside its own country they've got the fascist BJP and outside in the neighborhood they've been promoting dictators. Look up Indian support for the Myanmar military junta and also the recent Bangladeshi revolution which removed an India supported dictator.
Let Ukraine defend itself fully!
Yes with their own weapons and money
It would have been easier for them to follow the Minsk peace agreements, no need for defending themselves 😂
Would have been even easier if Sad Vlad stayed TF out of where he doesn't belong.
@@robmyers8948 the Minsk agreements Russia broke every chance they got then blamed Ukraine? get a grip, if Russia had not invaded Ukraine in 2014 the Minsk agreements wouldn't even exist. you need to stop trolling for Russia and learn some actual history.
@@jaimes350 NATO 2002 summit in Prague started NATO expansion against Russian wishes, followed by further expansion invites in 2008 to Ukraine & Georgia, followed by the 2014 Ukraine coup, installing MI6 and CIA regime, training Ukraine army over 8 years…
Poland: I swear if you all hold Ukraine back I’ll start my own “special volunteer operation” to reclaim my “historical rights of Moscow”
So Ukraine will continue to fight even when there are no Ukrainians in the AFU? Are we fighting for Ukraine or are we fighting for NATO?
Be real, we'd be fighting AGAINST Putin.
Based Poland.
ph 14
War is just politics
It literally is
Yeah. No shit.
Yup, it's just a nasty part of it
Always has been
tell that to the Ukrainians dying for their land ...just because you live in comfort doesn't mean you know war
Truthfully Russia has been all-in whilst the West is playing defensive
Let Them Fight
“You’re lucky he’s holding me back” is real now
Russia went from the second best Army in Ukraine to the second best Army in Russia😂
Twice even, remember Wagner almost making it to Moscow?
Not if they use the arsenal we all know they have. Much bigger and more powerful.
Yet Ukraine’s meager advance in Russia has already been halted. Your joke doesn’t even make sense here.
@@YourGodStalinWagner driving on public’s roads in a convoy to Moscow is not a military failure.
@@luigimrlgaming9484 what? Where was that implied in my comment? The implication(which I thought was clear) is that when Wagner started towards Moscow it made the RuAF second best in Russia...
Reconsolidation? What Bizarro world is that idea coming from?
Ukraine has shown to be an incredibly valuable ally, let them defend themselves through a taste of Russia's own medicine
The US have been incredibly frustrating.
GLOVES OFF TIME NOW.
Without the west Ukraine would’ve capitulated already
So?
Bro, last time we appeased a dictator's wants we got WW2
If you appease victory to peoples peddaling the appeasement argument we'll prove that we don't ever learn anything from history and actualy enjoy being played by Bankers who gonna lizzard cuz that's what lizars bankers do.
If Ukraine was allowed to do whatever & had all the right weapons, ammo, products, supplies, support, they could have already taken Putin out of power for a regime change
And then UKraine would be a glass parking lot.
@@kevfit4333it's not the first nuclear strike, you know.
When one nuclear state launches nukes, other nuclear states don't wait for that nuke to reach its (unknown) target.
They launch a response nuke missiles.
So a lot of places in the world will be glassed, including russia.
@kevfit4333 you really think that the Russian military would allow the launching of nukes for one man's desires? They know full well what the retaliation would be and wouldn't risk it. They'd throw putin out of power and call their armed forces back home rather than risk destroying their military forces and having Russia become a landmark for future warnings
@@kevfit4333Just look up how many civilians Russia has killed and many tanks aircraft and other pieces of equipment and armor
@@kevfit4333right buddy keep telling yourself that. Because the only reason Russia isn’t glassed is because we’re holding Ukraine back.
Love Ukraine from America we stand with you forever till the end! 🇺🇸❤️🇺🇦
But DJT/JD/Vivek say Otherwise.
No reconciliation with Russia. Forever isolate.b
Frankly... Yeah. They've shown time and time and time again that they do not want democracy, they do not want political freedom, and they *especially* don't want their neighbours trying that ****. They want a strong authoritarian bent on expansionism.
Russia needs to get it's act together and start being a country in the 21st century, much like how it was dragged kicking and screaming into the 20th.
I dunno....they did that to germany after ww1 and it allowed some pretty extreme views and aggressive behaviour
@@evanoconnell9448 Germany was occupied and de-nazified. Unless Russia goes through the same process, it should forever be a pariah state that has no dealings with any civilised nation. Let them sit in the p!ss with north korea.
@@evanoconnell9448that why in WW2 it got even worst punishment and aplitted up, wouldn't be surprise if Russia as we know fragmented into smaller states
@jubal6654 That is precisely what the Larry Fink's, George Soros's, Klaus Schwab's, etcetera, of the world are keeping this war going and maintaining the propaganda in the mainstream and social media spaces (among other things) for. They want nothing less than the partition of the current and, largely historically as well, Russian nation-state to facilitate the formation of smaller, less powerful, and thus less able to resist the hegemony/domination by the individuals & entities/companies/corporations/etcetera who want to exploit the immense amount of resources like fossil fuels, rare earth minerals, precious metals, industrial ores/raw materials, and who knows what else. It also eliminates one of, if not the only, (mostly European, population-wise at least) European nations that's a bastion of conservative, Christian, non-"woke" values like ultra-radical "feminism," over-toleration & promotion of radicalized, degenerate homosexuality, ever increasing normalization & widespread acceptance of abortion as birth control, and the destruction & demonization of the masculine male and traditional family unit, among much more, all of which they want gone & forgotten like they're trying to do here.
Russia only started this war, now they’re crying because the Ukraine gives them a nosebleed
That's because putin is a coward
Tell me about it so I just went to Wendy's got me a tasty freedom hamburger if you know what I'm saying that good old baconator and I blew out the toilet cleared out the old pipes. If you know what I'm saying my fat ass was barely on it. Almost shit on the floor if you know what I'm saying. 😊
@@Eric-jk3oi ah yess. I used to make the baconators
Sounds a whole lot like a middle eastern conflict this year
@@tinycockjock1967 Iran crying because they are attacked back after constantly funding terrorists for decades? Iran crying after trump turned their terror general into hamburger paste?
Israel now getting full justification to wipe yall off the map?
Which one?
Anyone else feel like Neville chamberlain’s back?
Ukraine Ukraine!!!
Didn’t North Korea literally send troops to Ukraine? That’s escalation enough lol.
Ehh, Kim was just stroking Putin for some food, he would never allow it, his troops would just defect.
To be fair, that's an escalation of making Russia the fourth best army in Ukraine
Actually China, North Korea and Cuba sent “troops” to Russia. (They’re actually prisoners who are forced to fight because it’s either prison for life or fight for Russia)
Ukraine’s allies need to stop playing around and let Ukraine effectively defend itself.
Pootin portrayed himself as a strong man. But he surrounded himself with weaklings and corruption. Now that's coming to fruition, his international allies are recognizing it and heading for the exits. Pootin will be making his exit soon.
Will he take the same window out that a lot of his former cronies took?
Russia isn't playing by rules why should the victims?
India finally making the right move ❤
India is playing Both side. Never trasst anyone who plays both sides.
India is a Pro-Russian "Offcially Neutral" state.
Putin needs to be out!
No reset with Russia no peace with Russia
Putin at this point had a endless supply of resentment for the west.
That's up to Ukraine. They are being attacked.
Poland foaming in the mouth with this war
Screw reconciliation, let them stay walled-off for awhile
Why would we care to reconcile with Russia. Norway can provide 100% of the gas and natural gas that Russia did alone. And as far as other recourses go we have so many different options. Russia needs to be reconciling with us
Reconciling with russia would decrease the chances of a ww3. Do you want that to happen or not.
You do realize Russia is more than just a bad guy with gasoline right? They’re a nation, and if we don’t reconcile, then they will come after us forever because we have shown no ounce of forgiveness nor mercy for them.
@@QuickScopeChris how’s there gonna be a world war 3? You realize if like Sweden Poland and the balcans joined in the war Russia would be completely overwhelmed in months? Not even. All Europe. America alone could destroy every single Russian milltary base from
The skies in a matter of hours. Where is this imaginary threat of world war 3? Can also have the technology of to easily erase their nukes on launch before they can go off. So what are you so worried about russias 2 ally in North Korea and Belarus ? Really bro do you understand any geo politics?
@@QuickScopeChris Whilst a major conflict between Russia and the west would be devastating it is already known to be coming soon. Russia is at its lowest point, mine as well finish the rest of conflict on the European continent
Norway couldn't, this is the exact reason why the EU went to Qatar after the Russian Invasion and went to Azerbaijan after 7th October in Gaza due to Qatar support towards Hamas. If Norway can, Brussels wouldnt bother to play blind to Azeri warcrimes against Armenians
We need to stop thinking in terms of appeasing Russia and let Ukraine go take Moscow if they want.
Their absolutely correct, we are holding them back.
Go ahead and win
Russia is getting their ass kicked
Just wait for the ruski poorer bots to say otherwise
They’re now sending the russki trolls to the front lines.
Why then after 2 years is Ukraine just now reaching inside Russian territory? After Ukraine was destroyed first? Makes me wonder if anyone is really paying attention. No to mention it isn't Ukraine fighting this war, it's always been NATO and the US...
@@Yuri-oj5lk There he is. Hi Yuri.
@@Yuri-oj5lkno Yuri, Russia is not fighting NATO. They’re fighting off the shelf drones and some NATO equipment from the 80’s.
I agree with Ukraine. No need to keep playing these games.
Russia is just full of hot air. They keep giving empty threats. Russia has become a meme because of this lol.
You do understand Russia saved Europe before 😂. Some people are stupid af
@@platypus1287 Pull your head out & stop spreading LIES!
Russia would have lost to Germany if USA would not have armed them.
That was 80 years ago.
Russia has never helped anyone, as it's a dictatorship.
Learn to appreciate freedom & democracy or STFU!!!!!
@@platypus1287saved by starting WWII?
Guess you never heard of Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. If so, I suggest you google it.
@@platypus1287 with America's money, supplies and not to mention the multiple fronts that England, America and French resistance fighter created to distract Germany 😂😂 you fool don't forget you was in bed with Germany before turning your back on them. You're the Nazi supporters except your dictator Stalin got paranoid about Hitler and turned on him 🤡
@@platypus1287saved? They basically took over half of it after ww2 and let’s not add the fact that they tried to starve Berlin so they would turn to communism and let’s not also add the fact that America sent the designer of one of our largest cities and we helped start their industrial revolution and with that also sent about 14 billion dollars and the fact that ww2 wasn’t one country but many fighting against Germany but America and Russia I will give credit they did a lot but it was a combined effort OH and that any attempt of reform in the satellite countries were brutally supressed
What Ukrainians achieved with what limited resources they have, is mind blowing, to begin with.
Reconciliation with russia? That bridge was burned when putin decided to try to imitate a certain Austrian corporal.
Only fair to hold Ukraine back, letting too much wont help de escalate things
This is like when two men fight but one of them has their girlfriend trying to hold their arms back. She may be trying to help but all she’s doing is getting her man punched in the face
No reconciliation just consequences.
How funny is that supposedly the second best military is escalating and threatening
We say ever again all the time. These words means nothing when we dont act upon them. Chamberlain would be proud of the us administration.
We been holding them back. We sent them tanks without the top secret armor 😂
Considering how they keep losing them and abandoning turns out that was a good idea. Just today they left an almost fully intact Abrams just sitting there inside Russia with nothing but track damage.
@@Cameron0214 good lord you're stupid
Top secret armor?
The US is sending supplies with strings attached. It’s not just hears a bunch of stuff use it however you want, it’s here’s a bunch of stuff you can only use it to do XYZ. The US literally refused to send long range missiles so that Ukraine couldn’t hit within Russian territory. Then when Ukraine finally got close enough to use the missiles they did have they still had to get the US to say ok you can use it for that
@@Cameron0214If the tracks aren’t working the tank can’t go anywhere. What do you want them to do sit there out in the open in enemy territory. What’s destroyed the most tanks in this war on both sides is drones. So yeah if something stops working or they get a report of possible drones in the area the safest thing to do is abandon the tank. Not sit there out in the open and wait for someone who might be able to come and fix it
*Revenge is a dish best served cold.*
*Remember; No Russia.*
It's kind of Rich that Ukraine is saying its allies are holding them back even though its allies are literally the only reason they're able to fight
No, they're running out of useful weapons and troops.
Russia wanted a fight but to have ukraine have a hand tied behind their back and somehow we went "yeah that seems fair"
If we allowed ukraine to do what russia does this war will be over in days if not hours.
Just let Ukraine do what they NEED to Do,, stop HOLDING them BACK 🇭🇲🇭🇲🇭🇲🇭🇲🇬🇧🇺🇸🇳🇿🇳🇿
Republicans mad russia is losing
Jesus, you're brain dead from propaganda huh?
It's insane that this is a factual statement in the 2020s. What the hell happened to them? How are they gonna recover from this when Trump is gone?
@@Sam-CainNo it isn't a "factual statement" - majority of Republicans, and people, just want this conflict to end.
Except its Ukraine thats losing to Russia.
Large amounts of land in eastern Ukraine is currently being overrun by Russia as Ukrainian defeanders there can't hold them back. Bakhmut, Marinka, and Avdiivka are all far behind Russian lines, especially Avdiivka.
Some people just don't want Nuclear war to happen dümbàss
Declare Ukraine NATO membership unconditionally
That B S is the reason they're at war.
Doesn't make sense that the US is holding them back. We support them to win.
Treat people like people.
The US is far too concerned with keeping the world borders exactly as they are. Let Ukraine do unto Russia as Russia has done unto them. They'll lose steam eventually, and by that time Russia will be more willing to offer peaceful negotiations with appeasements towards Ukraine.
Will we have to draw new maps? Most definitely. Will it be worth it? Oh yeah
Just hearing of this 🇷🇺 I’m sure will escalate the threats of widening war
India's hesitance to ally itself with Britain and the US is totally understandable. But allying with Russia and the communist bloc is far worse.
This clip from what was said seems like India will align more with the west eventually
@@OragamiSpliff I would hope so. I love India and so do many Westerners.
@@OragamiSpliffwell I mean china is closing the wests factories so India is the next kid on the block
India never allied themselves with Russia. India's concern is the potential formal alliance between the Northern Bear (Russia) and the Eastern Dragon (China). If that happens, India is doomed. Sri lanka and Pakistan continue to ally themselves with China. Bangladesh is unstable, Myanmar is in a civil war. By maintaining a good relation with Russia, it hoped to be a wedge in the Moscow-Beijing relation. Last time India hoped for Western help, The west did help. They helped Pakistan, India's eternal enemy
@themsky8905 Oh, yeah, I never meant to imply that India is already allied with Russia. Just condemned the potential.
I'd love to learn more about Amero-Paki relations and why we have strong ties with them. Could be a biproduct of WWII, could be America's desperation for allies and/or footholds into the oil rich Middle East like Israel, could have to do with their possession of nuclear weapons. Got some reading to do.
My allies are holding me back by not giving me enough of their own shit
Guys, are we allowed to question how slippery the road is to WWIII?
Oh we're holding them back??? How about their allies stop providing EVERYTHING and see how held back they were.
I don't see anyone else talking about it but India deciding to back Ukraine is absolutely huge.
Saying your allies are holding you back as they line your pockets is crazy
Edit: so quick to anger you silly gamers :3
I was thinking the same thing. If it wasn't for the west Ukraine would have been taken over for a year maybe longer
communist
this war has been going on for like 9 years they're tired of fighting. They want to end this shit already but everyone's too chicken shit to just send it.
@@russell5475The war could have been over if the allies stopped playing their lil game. They always wait until its to late
It's kinda true though while they've been providing stuff the restrictions have allowed russia to take advantage and avoid the most devastating blows by making sure they keep there people in areas where ukriane isn't allowed to go full force.
This is a prime example why you never depend on others to help fight your battles as far as weaponry
Vote Kamala!!!
It is Congress that passes aid. Vote Blue all the way down the ticket.
Hell no. She’s beyond unfit
Putin already said if America doesn't stop intervening and supplying weapons and then claiming ignorance that he will supply Korea with weapons and they wouldn't be responsible for how Korea uses them
If we holding them back, let's stop supporting them and see how far they get?
“Come on, let’s light this candle huh?”
Reconciliation is appeasement. Thus, reconciliation is futile. Only victory or defeat, anything held back is just one more asset for a following war.
If the US is gonna let Israel defend itself how it want then they need to let Ukraine’s defend itself how it wants to. Why should Ukraine people be the only ones to feel the affects of a war that Russia started.
Слава Україні!
And even holding back Ukraine is doing pretty damn well with what they got. The intercontinental Cessna is freaking hilarious 😂
Ukraine has a right to defend itself and sace itself from Putin, so let em at it
Well that would be the moral reason, but also it is in our best interest to stop Putin. To be really frank big wars are bad for free trade and therefore bad for our ecconomies around the world. (Yes the military complex is happy but that Industrie is nothing compared to all the rest). So making sure that Russia fails epicly in Ukraine and Russia being far worse off afterwards is what we want to happen. Just because that outcome is the most efficient at detering other actors of similar ideas.
Reconciliation is a terrible idea. You can't reconcile with a madman.
Slava Ukraini!
Yes ! Yes ! Yes ! Yes !
This is the most unhinged pro war shit i've ever heard in my life
Set them free but also stop giving them money and arms
“The White House”? Who would that be?
Let’em do whatever, just stop giving them arms and aid.
If you can't survive on your own, just be happy playing by the rules that let you live.
Those allies also gave you the >$175 billion in military aid you’re using rn
Slava Ukraini