Frankly the Allies should have made space militarization a red line for war. You develop military shit to put into space and you risk land warfare. Nukes or not because putting nukes in space to destroy satellites and drop straight down on cities with no warning is an absolute first strike system and the hell with that.
We thought they wanted to colonize the moon, so we did it first. Turns out they wanted Mars and now they've claimed it.....and so the great Space Expansion Race began.
This is littlerly how we got into space in the first place. The reason we stopped funding it was because we won the space race and the Soviet Union dissolved. Things like the radio were made for war too
For better or worse, war tends to be when a lot of technology rapidly progresses. It's hard to make the masses support paying for stuff that'll not have an immediate impact on them, even if it'd make things better for everyone in the future. "We need it or the Russians will kill us all and we'll be powerless to fight back" is a way better motivator to get things funded.
Wars won’t be fought in order space for a long time. It’ll be space weapons and a place to store more troops. Think about it what the fastest way to get to somewhere a plan well what’s faster than that coming from space and landing right where you may need to be to win a war say you’re fighting for high ground well if I can drop troops from space I can win that ground in a couple of minutes as we can drop right down. At least that’s my theory as guns don’t work in space and fighter jets aren’t built to fly in a vacuum.
@@raptorwhite6468accurate. But also I feel like this could be fear mongering by the powers that be in order to get more funding for the USSF. Which I think is a good thing, I’d rather we control space than China. Just look at how they treat international waters. Now picture that in space.
South African here... WERE DOING WHAT WITH WHO! Like, if this is true, has our goverment lost its dam mind. The money spent to do that could be better spent upgrading our power grid so that we have power 24/7 like a normal country
Relax. No-one really needs military bases there. They would be too fragile and expensive. China always screams about how cool and innovative they are and how many friends they have. On another hand it's a chance for us military to get more money
Ideally, yes. But politicians are too worried about re-election and political brownie points to fund space programs enough when there isn't an direct military threat in not doing so. As bad as it may seem, this is probably the best thing that could happen for mankind long-term. So long as we don't wipe ourselves out in the process, this will get space exploration, militarization, and colonization closer and closer to being a reality. And these things will all be needed to become a post-scarcity species.
Its one of many flaws of the old world. So long as all young people believe in right and wrong, and peace, then the ways of the world will change. It is when we are convinced by our elders way of life that we truly lose the future we could have if we were free to choose what we know is right.
@@aliceslab Thinking this is a case of "young good people" VS "old bad people" is even more naive. Every generation is young and old at some point, and young men especially stir up conflict all the time. Why should anyone think the world would be at peace if only young people made decisions?
@Chicky_Lumps one day progress will happen as time changes everything. one day they will have to make those decisions anyway. It is better to establish organization for the next generations. Who will have their own opinions which should be respected at the very least. Because they are the ones that have to live with it for many years. The incentive to make things work is greater than someone who's on the way out. Young people have more energy, to fix society through action. I think the advice of someone 30-50 to young people is enough to pass on a better way of life that ensures peace and prosperity for the whole planet. The old world is gone, even times and memories in my life just isnt reality anymore. This is a new age and fresh eyes would be better as it is less corrupt. But still i think a test should be implemented to become president, something more rigorous and proof of concept that they are a young intelligent person who is there based on a better moral compass as well.
It's wild to me that Russia and China are going to Egypt, South Africa, and Pakistan for help with building a moon base lmao. Boy howdy I'm quaking in my boots thinking about the Egyptian space force
You do understand that Russia and china single handedly rival the USA only in europe are a few countries cooperating. The european countries are on the side of the US anyway
Rival? They are already passed the US. Why else you think they finding partners? China alone has already surpassed US in space and until a few years ago, the U.S. was fully reliant on Russian rockets as well as the ISS mainly built by the USSR.
China, Russia, Egypt, South Africa, Pakistan all working together to develop space facilities? Can these five really be serious about working together? It'll be lucky to get off the ground on Earth!
It has more to do with BRICS and the Chinese using captive trade to prop up their economy than genuine exploration. The benefit will be solely for China.
not really, the world is curently unstable yes but saying were all gonna die 5-10 years from now is like saying you have the knowledge of the universe we as a civilization have plans for 2050 already for world leaders to throw that all way just because they hate each other is unlikely
I remember talking in hs about how if we had weaponized satellites no body would ever be able to compete because we could have a monopoly on a super weapon. I was laughed at about how that could never happen because it would be too expensive or some other reason, demilitarized space or whatever. That was 2019….
Partnered with South Africa, Pakistan, and Egypt. 😆 South Africa would be an absolutely terrible partner. What kind of money are they putting into this insanely expensive project? Monopoly money? They have way to many other problems to deal with before they can even dream of helping in any sort of way.
The only thing mind boggling is somebody consider this a real threat. Russia do not have the heavy lift capabilities for any manned or sizable lunar missions. And have nothing in the works to achieve this. PRC is developing Long March 9 which will give the capabilities for lunar missions but AT A MINIMUM 10 years. Pakistan space agency annual budget is less the US Space Force toilet paper budget and they only develop a small 10 pound cube-sats. South Africa Space Agency has been gutted through corruption and the only thing they do is assist the US as its only source of income via radio antenna array support.
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Instead of competing to better humanity, our governments are competing against each other while putting humanity at risk of mutuality assured destruction.
Only thing I think they care about in any near future is finding more minerals, precious metals etc... to collect to exploit and get rich off us some more. Don't matter what government it is.
According to the man who stands to gain the largest budget increase from people being worried about China and space, “people should be worried about china and space.”
You know we gotta have Space Marines now, right?
If we remake the British Empire then they can even shout “For the Emperor!” During battle
“there is no shelter for those who oppose the united states”
@@kingdomofgenevamappingnah. No USA. The only service a space marine needs is service to the GOD EMPEROR!
Hoi4 Players 👀
@@Jocraft2039No, war hammer 40k
So much for the demilitarization of space
For real.
Kinda went out the window when Russia decided to ignore treaties
Inevitable, was going to happen sometime but didn’t think it would be so soon
The Chinese space program is run by the PLA. Where is NASA is a civilian government run agency. Is there really much surprise?
Frankly the Allies should have made space militarization a red line for war. You develop military shit to put into space and you risk land warfare. Nukes or not because putting nukes in space to destroy satellites and drop straight down on cities with no warning is an absolute first strike system and the hell with that.
SPACE RACE 2 BOYS, THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO MARS!!
The sequel is always worse than the original
@noobssindcool Wrong. The Lost World Book and Film exist.
We thought they wanted to colonize the moon, so we did it first. Turns out they wanted Mars and now they've claimed it.....and so the great Space Expansion Race began.
We are barely keeping our space station together. We would definitely want a base on the moon first.
Out of all the comments here, this one is the only one I've seen with this energy 😂
This was NOT the way I had thought space research would get funded.
it is how I did
This is littlerly how we got into space in the first place. The reason we stopped funding it was because we won the space race and the Soviet Union dissolved. Things like the radio were made for war too
Then you weren't paying attention 🤣
Most did
For better or worse, war tends to be when a lot of technology rapidly progresses. It's hard to make the masses support paying for stuff that'll not have an immediate impact on them, even if it'd make things better for everyone in the future. "We need it or the Russians will kill us all and we'll be powerless to fight back" is a way better motivator to get things funded.
Space is not the place to fight wars…space is supposed to be the answer to ending wars…more resources, more room…what are these world leaders doing😢
Greed, ambition, and hate.
You underestimate the will of politicians to destroy everything
Never seen Star Wars ig
Wars won’t be fought in order space for a long time. It’ll be space weapons and a place to store more troops. Think about it what the fastest way to get to somewhere a plan well what’s faster than that coming from space and landing right where you may need to be to win a war say you’re fighting for high ground well if I can drop troops from space I can win that ground in a couple of minutes as we can drop right down. At least that’s my theory as guns don’t work in space and fighter jets aren’t built to fly in a vacuum.
FOR THE EMPEROR!
crazy to think that maybe, we are the galaxy far far away
Don't tell me we're getting moon bases before GTA 6 🤦🏾♂️
No, we’re more than likely gonna get GTA 6 first. Moon base will be in two years if Artemis stays on schedule
@@blackgem12not really if you count the PC version 🤣
@blackgem12 If we're lucky we'll get it by phase 4 of Artemis 😭😭.
Fam I pray we even make it that far in general things not looking to bright for our future, I’ll come back Tuesday and share my thoughts though 🙏🏼
@@yungrom427"that far" in regards to moon bases or GTA 6?
Mind boggling, yes, like how china threw a rocket at one of their own villages instead of into space.
then covered it up 😂
Correction, China regulary drops rocket stages on villages, so the payload still makes it to orbit.
@@raptorwhite6468accurate. But also I feel like this could be fear mongering by the powers that be in order to get more funding for the USSF.
Which I think is a good thing, I’d rather we control space than China. Just look at how they treat international waters. Now picture that in space.
if it was left into space you'll call it littering. A little toxic fuel is nothing Chinese can't handle😂
@@woth-th9gi I mean in certain things.
But rocket fuel?
Nobody's coming back from that.
In fallout the US and China had a military conflict on the moon in this exact manner
South African here... WERE DOING WHAT WITH WHO! Like, if this is true, has our goverment lost its dam mind. The money spent to do that could be better spent upgrading our power grid so that we have power 24/7 like a normal country
Relax. No-one really needs military bases there. They would be too fragile and expensive. China always screams about how cool and innovative they are and how many friends they have. On another hand it's a chance for us military to get more money
That's what happens when you allow blacks to run a country. Things were much more safe and sane under the orange flag.
Don't stress, US Military always talks up the capabilities of Enemy forces for extra funding. That's how US always stays the best.
@@dsdgdsfegfeg remind me again who lost almost every single war since the 1950s
South Africa been getting richer with China. Having a space program is a pride for any nation. Your not spending your entire GDP on Space,
Why even choose sides like that, they should work together to explore space instead of trying to conquer space
Ideally, yes. But politicians are too worried about re-election and political brownie points to fund space programs enough when there isn't an direct military threat in not doing so.
As bad as it may seem, this is probably the best thing that could happen for mankind long-term. So long as we don't wipe ourselves out in the process, this will get space exploration, militarization, and colonization closer and closer to being a reality. And these things will all be needed to become a post-scarcity species.
This is naive, like expecting that to have happened when the Americas were discovered. Did more land create peace in the Old World?
Its one of many flaws of the old world. So long as all young people believe in right and wrong, and peace, then the ways of the world will change.
It is when we are convinced by our elders way of life that we truly lose the future we could have if we were free to choose what we know is right.
@@aliceslab Thinking this is a case of "young good people" VS "old bad people" is even more naive. Every generation is young and old at some point, and young men especially stir up conflict all the time. Why should anyone think the world would be at peace if only young people made decisions?
@Chicky_Lumps one day progress will happen as time changes everything. one day they will have to make those decisions anyway.
It is better to establish organization for the next generations. Who will have their own opinions which should be respected at the very least. Because they are the ones that have to live with it for many years.
The incentive to make things work is greater than someone who's on the way out. Young people have more energy, to fix society through action.
I think the advice of someone 30-50 to young people is enough to pass on a better way of life that ensures peace and prosperity for the whole planet.
The old world is gone, even times and memories in my life just isnt reality anymore. This is a new age and fresh eyes would be better as it is less corrupt.
But still i think a test should be implemented to become president, something more rigorous and proof of concept that they are a young intelligent person who is there based on a better moral compass as well.
We’re at moon bases now😂
I wonder what would be a space war in the moon? Fighting against martians or unknown tons of pure democracy 😂
All I know is space radiation won’t be service connected
It's wild to me that Russia and China are going to Egypt, South Africa, and Pakistan for help with building a moon base lmao. Boy howdy I'm quaking in my boots thinking about the Egyptian space force
We’re closer to having the game Infinity Blade come true
Funny how it takes so many nations to even attempt to rival the U.S😂
You do understand that Russia and china single handedly rival the USA only in europe are a few countries cooperating. The european countries are on the side of the US anyway
Rival? They are already passed the US. Why else you think they finding partners? China alone has already surpassed US in space and until a few years ago, the U.S. was fully reliant on Russian rockets as well as the ISS mainly built by the USSR.
South Africa came out of nowhere
Finally, the For All Mankind AppleTV show becomes a reality
that show underrated fr
I knew I wasn't the only person who thought of that show.
I remember the Pentagon and CIA had secretly smuggled weapons into the base😂
I was looking for the for all mankind ref! Jamestown base is real, only now it will be 60 years later
Oh great, now France can have a space orbital strike 'warning shot' too
getting drafted to the moon is crazy
So begins the second space race
So Antarctica is demilitarized but not space lmfao
Space is demilitarized, it's just that... The politicians don't give a shit
Likely only because launching military operations from Antarctica is pointless.
@ a man with a tiny square mustache would disagree lmao
@@disaintoscar🤨
@@disaintoscarthats why he lost
Bro imagine troops being sent to the moon to start fighting 😂
Good time to be an astrophysics major. Let’s keep this up to when I graduate please.
All of those countries do not get along 😂 that plan’s gonna fail
China, Russia, Egypt, South Africa, Pakistan all working together to develop space facilities? Can these five really be serious about working together? It'll be lucky to get off the ground on Earth!
China and Russia are doing all the work, others are just for the sake of name
Kinda like picking Ralph, Millhouse, Martin & the red glasses black hair nerd to play American Football
Then why are you american afraid?
@@woth-th9gi We aren't afraid of nothing. The man said worried not afraid. What are you afraid of?
It has more to do with BRICS and the Chinese using captive trade to prop up their economy than genuine exploration.
The benefit will be solely for China.
Oh, no, 🇨🇳china's gonna make a military moon bass 🇺🇲 we better go back to the moon before they do
We better make sure they stop fishing for that moon bass.
Wait my country??? South Africa is helping China build a moon base?? 😂😂 with what?? We are struggling just to keep the water flowing and the lights on
Funny how space force is no longer a joke in the news
Shit is reality gonna become infinite warfare before we know it
Another Cold War, a different rival!
Everyone said "Bet!" 😂
We’re literally heading towards the fallout universe every day
not really, the world is curently unstable yes but saying were all gonna die 5-10 years from now is like saying you have the knowledge of the universe we as a civilization have plans for 2050 already for world leaders to throw that all way just because they hate each other is unlikely
@log-w3m Nuclear war in inevitable and the wheels are currently in motion.
And we don’t even get the cool 50’s retro futurism aesthetic!
@@log-w3m the fallout universe was nowhere near death in 2024/2034. it was thriving and resources were still very plentiful.
@@PaladinElliott yes you're absolutely correct but we are at a steady pace to discover to make nearly everything artiffically
It’s impressive the new and different ways we are developing to kill each other with the justification “well they are doing it…” 😢
I remember talking in hs about how if we had weaponized satellites no body would ever be able to compete because we could have a monopoly on a super weapon. I was laughed at about how that could never happen because it would be too expensive or some other reason, demilitarized space or whatever. That was 2019….
Battles on the moon will be hell never seen before in the history of our species.
There is no final frontier, just more front lines
That’s no moon… it’s a space station
We’re really getting griffin station before GTA6
How tf did South Africa end up in the conversation
It's like my mind is trapped in a bottle...
Where is Buzz Lightyear when you need him?
Great news for space exploration
When and who'll build the death star
Probably Jeff the same guy with the nukey
We should make Helldivers
As a South African. They will never build a moon base
Are we gonna provide the power and make government tenders for the construction efferts.😅
@@arnobreedt5048no no we gonna do the issuing of Moon licenses
Partnered with South Africa, Pakistan, and Egypt. 😆 South Africa would be an absolutely terrible partner. What kind of money are they putting into this insanely expensive project? Monopoly money? They have way to many other problems to deal with before they can even dream of helping in any sort of way.
No religions, no politics, no borders. We would be travelling the stars already.
They also called the PS1’s effect “Mind Boggling.”
Space X launches more to space than the rest of the world combined.
China, Russia et al have an operational tempo problem.
A catastrophic one.
I've been waiting for this my whole life! Nothing accelerates technology like war
.......this is literally the start point for one of the gundam series. Someone call megabots, we got some work to do. Damnit
Is this the new season of For All Mankind?
As a South African, I have not been okay in a very long time.
COD ghosts incoming
I'm loving the thumbnail pics, epic photos of our beautiful machines.
Hell yeah more funding for space
It’s the silver lining
If we spent 1/100th of what we spend on the military we'd have a permanent presence out of low earth orbit and have colonies through out the system.
Did all of these countries forget about the international treaty they signed, including the USA, not to militarize space?!🤬
As far as we know the USA has not broken that treaty
@@Acrophobia2 However Russia has broken that treaty.
@@AxePlays-hc5dj and they bragged about it
Who's gonna stop them? The UN?
@AxePlays-hc5dj Like NATO's expansion treaty, none of this would be happening. But no, greedy Europe need cheaps Ukrainian oil.
It is insane that governments are trying to build a base on the moon.
the idea of a space cold war is in itself mind boggling because we are nowhere near ready for that shit
So are we gonna have a CoD where some random spec ops guy EMPs the USA now?
@OrificeHorus that would have very mixed and unreliable results. Too many variables.
Also, radhard circuitry.
South Africa needs to keep electricity flowing for a full week before building a moon base.
As someone from the uk I don’t know why we don’t
Did we forget about Project Thor after the signing on M.A.D. back in 62? Probably the best time to use it
We are a species doomed to contain ourselves to this planet until we do ourselves in along with everything else stuck on this planet
The only thing mind boggling is somebody consider this a real threat.
Russia do not have the heavy lift capabilities for any manned or sizable lunar missions. And have nothing in the works to achieve this.
PRC is developing Long March 9 which will give the capabilities for lunar missions but AT A MINIMUM 10 years.
Pakistan space agency annual budget is less the US Space Force toilet paper budget and they only develop a small 10 pound cube-sats.
South Africa Space Agency has been gutted through corruption and the only thing they do is assist the US as its only source of income via radio antenna array support.
Funny how we had a space race and an arms war during the cold war. Now we're going to reignite both together
Can we just unite already and begin conquest of the Galaxy?
Well when you say "screw all the rules" and literally don't care about where your debris falls or who it kills...yeah you ought to advance fast
That’s Humans for you. It will never be enough. The moon, mars, all space. We’ll fight over its
Man why does the US always have to convince our “allies” to help us
Since when did literally anyone wanna actually commit to making a moon base?
Imagine getting stuck on the moon base when the apocalypse goes down. You might be such there until judgement day 😂😂😂😂
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holy schizo
Spartan 117 has Entered the Chat
The new “SR72 Dark star” may wind up being the first star fighter! Crazy!
Dammm we about to have some epic space battles
It's really funny about all of them have to unite against the us just to even challenge them
Mind boggling they can actually get a rocket up into orbit
Excuse me, A MOON BASE???!!! We really in the future now
I clearly remember everyone making fun of the space force. Now look at ya
This is how Star Wars will become real 😂
Instead of competing to better humanity, our governments are competing against each other while putting humanity at risk of mutuality assured destruction.
Good this will increase funding for our space exploration stuff
If they didn’t defund NASA we would’ve been so far ahead.
Star Wars....
Earth Edition 😂
Your channel name 🤮
@RSEDITZ7450 As long as your Mom love's it 🤷♂️
@@your_m0ms_favorit3 looks like your mom has someone else favorite than your dad that's why you are talking from experience 😂😂
@@your_m0ms_favorit3 and still your channel name is 🤮🤮
@@RSEDITZ7450 My experience as your mother! 🤣
With all the issues on earth, why is everyone spending money to fight in space 😂
What are they going to do on the moon? 😭
As i heard in 1 or 2 games
"Firing orbital strike"
Only thing I think they care about in any near future is finding more minerals, precious metals etc... to collect to exploit and get rich off us some more. Don't matter what government it is.
Probably fuck humanity has to leave its mark
If we are involved. Then they're doomed.
Well, they have to have the materials and quality to actually do any of this.
To quote Husk
"Are you f*cking high?"
🗣️Star War was inspirational to everyone.🏆
Aka: SPACE FORCE NEEDS FUNDING! GIVE US A GOOD BUDGET! RAHHHH!
Space nukes, Space Force…… space Marines?!?!
Guess we need to spread DEMOCRACY
@@Hex424. to space and to aliens. Sowing the seeds for the United galactic federation
According to the man who stands to gain the largest budget increase from people being worried about China and space, “people should be worried about china and space.”
TRIPLE THE DEFENSE BUGGET!
Triple the tax?
For All Mankind bout to be real yall
US should definitely not underestimate China because unlike Russia, they are not a paper tiger and have an economy to back their military
Unfortunately you're right. But the development past the van Allen line is a serious no go for earth. Forget China or the US. Just earth.
IT'S NEVER A THREAT UNTIL YOU START TO SURPASS AMERICA AT SOMETHING THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM
Damn NASA's budget all of a sudden skyrocketed
Space Race 2 Electric Boogaloo. Same players, bigger stakes. Winner claims all.
Let's not take our foot off the accelerator this time.
That make building out of drywall. Bull shit they got military stuff in space.
Moon bases and space nukes…can we all just calm down for a second?