Tortured Son Murder Trial: Twisted Tale that Led to Teen's Death
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- Опубликовано: 13 дек 2023
- Shanda Vander Ark is accused of severely abusing her teenage son with special needs, who was in an ice bath for 9 hours before he was declared dead.
Shanda Vander Ark, 43, is facing first-degree murder and child abuse charges for the death of her 15-year-old son, Timothy Ferguson, who police found dead and severely malnourished inside the family’s home. Timothy’s older brother Paul, 20, had also been charged days after his mom’s arrest. Together, Vander Ark and her son Paul are accused of a sinister pattern of abuse that may have lasted for years.
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I think death penalty do that have that in this state
I can't understand why this trial is not live on you tube?? A missed opportunity.
@@brandacofieldray4509no death penalty in Michigan
@@5GreenAcresCourt Tv has many videos about her testimony in court.
@@bbe3034 I know that. I am a court tv junkie. It is nice to interact with people on face book while it is live. Not interested in video. I watch live stream
There should be laws. Home schooled kids should have to be seen a few times a year.
Presumption of guilt is not what this country is about- you need evidence to send CPS. I really hope you never bring the bad karma you’re spouting down on your family…. CPS likes to lie.
This woman had neighbors, and a history- better to say what in the hell was that child doing with her- not call the dogs down on innocent families.
Agreed. It could open up more jobs and provide lots of support for parents that are home schooling but also safeguard children!
My daughter is homeschooled. We had an initial visit from the local authority but that’s all. I wish that they would visit more often and offer assistance. I don’t want my daughter to be under achieving and would appreciate it if we could get some sort of indication that she is doing ok. I think she is doing well and is in line with kids of her age but it would be nice to be assured of that.
Having said all of that, I cannot begin to imagine what the poor boy went through. How could anyone subject their child to such depravity. I feel sick to think of what happened to him at the hands of the woman who birthed him, and his own brother too. May he now rest in peace, and may she rot.
by that logic all households that have children too young to attend schools should receive visits from the authorities. OH, and don't forget they need to be check in on in the summer when school is out too bc no parent can't be trusted with their kids. Also, in case you missed it there are plenty of kids who are abused under the watchful eyes of schools so why are you only concerned about homeschool kids? Why not have the state go to all homes and check in? Before, you say if you aren't doing anything wrong then you don't have anything to worry about so why not agree to allow them into your home if it saves children....given up personal rights and freedoms to the government never ends well for anyone, the amount of man power needed to do that would cost the already stretched CPS workers resources to help the kids who are actually in need. there is a difference between privacy and hiding wrong-doing.
@@sophialee8065I homeschool my daughter too, she was getting bullied at school and has other health issues. We just started this year and she's doing fine. I'm sure you are doing your best.
HOW can a parent deny their child the most basic needs?? This poor boy suffered and died slowly. May he rest in peace and may justice be served.
It hurts me even more because I have disabilities myself and I don’t understand why parents can’t just accept their children for who they are
@@INDLISit’s not accept it… it’s handle it…we are going to see more of this with the asylums & mental hospitals all gone-States sold them to developers
She so evil poor kids
I watch it a Brazilian guy that has a child like that. He is a teen now, but this family does everything for him. His father goes around doing everything he can, with timing just for his routine not to be disturbed. Every single day he wakes at the same time, he has a routine. I cry many times to see him telling his father how much he loves him. And his father says the same. Of course they are very wealthy, but some people hide an autistic child, but if you can love them, they will love back. He can speak, not as clearly as us, but he can.
It's a person with anger issues.
Sweet Lord. This woman just forced herself to vomit on the stand over a picture of her deceased son. The son whose condition she saw daily. I am incredulous.
Yes she put a finger in her troat. Paul was very skinny too. I hope the yongest one will have a follow up because he certainly was fed a lot of bread too
You caught that? Evil personified that witch
😮😮😮
That’s what I thought because she saw him in person 😏 No one believes you Shanda STFU 🤬
You could absolutely tell that was forced absolutely pathetic excuse of a woman! She felt nothing for that little boy!
I have seen a lot of trials but I don't think I have felt the rage I feel towards this poor excuse for a woman. She treated those "service dogs" 100 times better than her own son
I'm watching her now on cross and she thinks she is the smart one and she's being ripped apart😅
We dont know how she treated the dogs.
This is the worst.Hard to even digest....Iam a mom.This dear boy suffered tremendously...his own mom...😢
Melanie, pls. Don't make a statement putting someone down. YOU are wrong. She spends tons of time on how she treated her dogs in these videos. Just watch. It's easy.
Vinny is so into showing what a humanitarian he is.
He is so fake.
She wasn't getting enough sleep because she was spending her every waking moment torturing her child. She's articulate, somewhat intelligent, crazy like a fox. This woman is just plain evil. She's smart enough to study law and work for the courts but she can't get the proper paperwork to put her child in school? Or get medical insurance and medication therapy for her special needs child? Her excuses are falling flat.
They are evil she mother 😢 l fell şad for kids
She couldn't enroll him in school or get medical help because she wasn't supposed to have custody, and applying for those would raise a red flag.
Absolutely agree!
I think she has autism or high functioning so has no emotion and expects everything done in a specific way... so this is how she controls her environment..
Yeah, she is a monster. How in the world? I can’t even imagine not feeding my cats, never mind a child. This is so sad, very sad.
My son has autism (nonverbal, more impacted) and is age 15 just like Timothy. I cannot even believe the RAGE I feel about this woman. And what she did to Timothy AND her son Paul. I have hundreds of photos of my son just in the last week! I would die if I didn't have my beautiful child. He makes my life worthwhile. WHY did she take custody of Timothy if she didn't have any love to give? Not only did she not give love, she gave Hate. Contempt. Disgust and Sadism.
Same. I have 2 autistic boys myself (15 and 17) and will admit that it can be hard and overwhelming at times. I have had many sleepless nights myself. That being said, I can't fathom how it would get to this point unless you have true hate for your own child. It boggles the mind and hurts my heart...
@@jennipherweston we need our own village for teens with autism so we can all help each other and we moms can have FRIENDS lol
@@fanofthedog agreed! It definitely takes a village. The more support, the better. 💜
And WHY do So Many Judges all over the Country chose to allow children to stay in homes with the Worst Case Scenarios Worst Case Breeders ( Can't even call them Parents) and We All Wonder WHY The Outcome Was the Worst Possible Outcome!?!?!???!?
69 lbs at 15 years old. My heart breaks, and I weep for Timothy. It's incomprehensible. I pray for him and hope his little brother is doing well.
My 3 yr old grandchild weighs 30 lbs so 69 lbs for a 15 yr old is unfathomable. I have been obsessed and eerily fascinated by this case. I keep trying to find something that I missed. I keep listening for a detail and I didn’t hear before. I guess I want to find a rationale and there isn’t one. It’s hard for me to get in my head that someone starved a child and chained him up in the basement. When I’ve heard of child starvation in the past, Ive seen pictures of the home and there’s no food in sight. This fools house was full of food. She needs to suffer the same, if not worse fate. You have to be pure evil to do something like this. 😢😢
I just keep thinking of my younger brother at 15 and he was about 150lbs give or take. And that's definitely on the lower end of my estimate before he started getting more into sports.
This poor kid was less than half that weight. Obviously not every kid is the same weight at that age, but I'm pretty sure the standard male weight at 15 is still double what he weighed at death. Disgusting.
How she can argue both "hunger strike" and "he was stealing food" is beyond me.
Honestly? I don't think she even thought about that until someone repeated it back to her. All she saw was a punching bag, it didn't matter the reason.
He was 5’9
Any mother or person who treated her son, as she did, is pure evil.
Agree.. It's like that's all I've see lately,
I do have to say " the devil doing its work"
Evil is too kind!!😡
I have a severe GI illness, and have nearly starved to death on a couple of occasions, 5’3”, 70lbs. (it’s not an0rexia). It’s the worst state your body can be in. You can’t sleep you’re so hungry, and when you do sleep, you dream of eating, when you’re awake, it’s all you think about. Your mind starts to play tricks on you. It’s a slow torture. That poor boy, I can relate and it’s inhumane what she did to him. That woman is nothing less than absolutely evil.
The other son, testified, he’s been abused also. I was on the fence until I saw him testify.
Don’t jump on me… I was waiting for non circumstantial evidence. He gave it.
@@grngooseputter I certainly won’t jump on you, waiting to see all evidence is a very sound way of judging the situation. Those poor boys.
5 years in prison. I swear the system seems like they kind of like criminals that harm children.
I'm just 5 mins in and reading comments , surely not just 5 years ?
@@ianclarke3627the man in the case first talked about not her. Tim Ferriter got 5 yrs
@@chichi775whew! I was about to throw my phone.
Its is in no way a severe enough punishment for such awful abuse. Do you know how long the poor boy was abused for?
Possible the time he lived with her over a year but starved for months.. but not just starved, abused punished, made eat bread soaked in hot sauce, chained, 9 hour cold bathes, clean the garage with not clothes below the waist...@@NotAnotherKuromi
Just watched her testify. She’s blaming sleep deprived, her texts and demands sure show a different picture: I can only hope the jury gets it right. She’s an evil pos.
Justice for Timothy.
where can i watch her testify. Is anyone live streaming? xx
She's really not believable....you can tell it's all an act. The juror are seeing her up close and hopefully pick up on it. Not a tear was shed no matter how hard she tried to squeeze one out!!
@@ingyell24 right. I zoomed in on her “crying”
And nothing, not even watery. I hope the jury sees through this.
What channel are you watching this on. I just have the local one that I can find. But comments are turned off, and it bugs me if I can’t comment. Even if I don’t comment.
Every parent knows what sleep deprivation is like. Nice try, Satan. 🙄
Watching the cross, it's frickin mind blowing. When she described the McDonalds frappachino that she loves I lost my mind, she gives me Irma Grese vibes
This mother is NUTS!! She’s trying to blame her other son!!
She’s not trying. She is. She is disgusting.
Mama used Paul to do her dirty work.
Her other son reportedly has the same attachment disorder Tim Ferriter's son has.
He was easily manipulated.
@@veronicacollins4449 I can see that in Paul. He definitely didn’t do this without order from her. And then, he played into it, because mom gave him kudos. He felt acceptance from her. Doesn’t make it right. But it happens a lot with children, and doing these bad things because their parent tells them too. They do it.
I also believe sexually abused. She was not suppose to have custody per the other state she lived in. @@veronicacollins4449
There are no excuses. Period. Her 15 yo son weighed 69lbs. The medical examiner determined he died of malnutrition and hypothermia. She doesn’t deserve any mercy.
Shanda is a psycho, disgusting she’s blaming it all on Paul. Paul is no innocent, he had plenty of opportunities to stop the abuse. Shanda keeps glancing at the jury to see if they are buying her testimony. I can’t stop crying for this abuse this child suffered.
This is exactly why I'm loosely watching. This hurts my heart so much. As a mother I just can't understand how another mother could treat a child so horribly. Shanda is hideous.
We know those text messages are the truth about what took place and so will the jury.
@@whowebead i know, i'm so so pained! my heart is shattered for this little boy!😭
@whowebead even a court tv veteran like me is also loosely watching! It's unbearable otherwise
@whowebead even a court tv veteran like me is also loosely watching! It's unbearable otherwise
She might be highly intelligent, but she can't seem to recognize where the prosecutor is leading her with his questions, and she is falling into his traps. She is so narcissistic and sociopathic, she believes that she can talk her way out of her crimes. She is making eye contact with the jury much more than any defendant I have ever seen.
There aren't any traps. She is guilty as sin. Given the evidence, there is no possible defense or mitigation for what she did.
Home schooling leaves vulnerable children unchecked on!!! Not that most are bad, but some are hiding stuff like this!😡
She's looking at them like why is he treating me so badly?? She's gone....no hope.
@cadcad-jm3pf oh, there have been plenty of traps. Deliberately having her correct the weight he was when he died was one of them.
Except for Amber Heard
I'm glad Joseph discussed some of the symptoms of severe malnutrition accompanied by dehydration. It's not just that you become emaciated. Because of electrolyte, enzyme and vitamin deficiencies, you suffer organ damage--kidney, cardiac, brain, etc.--which may not be reversible. Several of the texts between Paul and Shanda suggested that Timothy was faking seizures. The seizures are real with severe malnutrition. Poor kid.
That’s why he had the stroke 😢
I remember hearing one text of paul telling his mom that Timothy said "i need support". To have that capacity to beg on his last days and paul knew deep down how desperate tim was yet still left him in the ice bath! Paul should get life too.
This country needs to impose justice by subjecting the these people to the same treatment they dole out to their victims.
I swear to you I was going to same thing. No more being the “better person.” When these people go low, we meet them at their level.
That’s awful. I don’t want a society that tortures people. Life in prison
@@edw8889life in prison is hardly a punishment. They get 3 meals a day, healthcare (albeit not great, but better than many Americans who, like myself, don’t have healthcare at ALL) college education, commissary, phone calls, visitors, perhaps they can even form relationships depending on the situation.
@@rodentgirlHave you ever heard of Federal Medicaid programs? Get a check up, that’s so gross. You’re privileged to live in the US & you don’t even try.
@@edw8889Watch this trial and you might change your mind. This lady is a monster!
When she testified, i couldn't believe that she was speaking about the death of a child that she birthed. She was cold, calculated, and callous. She was disconnected and seemed like she was trying to blame everyone, including the victim, besides herself. She is a COMPLETE M O N S T E R!! 👹👹
I can’t believe that she took the stand in her own defense. There is nothing she could say that would justify what she put that poor child through. I see a guilty verdict for sure. Justice for Timothy.
The entitlement on so many levels. Wake up call!!
People like her who take the stand in their own trials often have an exaggerated sense of their own intelligence and charisma, imo. They think they can win the jury over; they’re imbeciles.
Her son seemed broken during his testimony, she's just putting on a show...and gladly sacrificing her son to save her own ass...lock her up throw away the key!!
He seemed honest... unlike her.
He's no innocent party, either. He could have stopped the torture and abuse, but chose to not do anything but help her torture his own brother. They both belong behind bars for life.
I believe he is on the spectrum.
I don't pity Paul.He was in it.
Spectrum. Perhaps..
????
Had a job, call police. Something older brother should have been Sad, Dumb Paul, sorry but not sorry .
Just saying.. Something nefarious was perchance going on with Shanda and Paul. . 19:10
@@Annie497Amen Amen Amen.
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Thank you Vinnie for giving a voice to our collective outrage over such evil. May God rest this poor child’s soul. May he have the peace and love he was so cruelly denied in this life.
"In the arms of the angels". Now I'm going to cry for this precious lost child.
Wow! no known photo of this child. That is depraved and inhumane what she did to this child. I hate it for him. How did we not know he existed. The world has missed out.
Absolutely - I'd like to think that a kind and compassionate person would have cared for and loved this boy. There is always help out there for parents who find it hard to cope with a special needs child.
I feel the same way. Whenever I hear of children being hurt I feel like humanity has failed them personally. think we’ve all in this world failed the children.
Wow she’s playing like she didn’t know what was going on but yet she was the puppet master . And how convenient she’s saying she has PTSD . And Paul was controlled by her maybe because he was abused as well lol how skinny the poor child ( I know he’s 20) is . She is the perfect example of a mother who is a serial abuser 😢
Paul is also under weight. I suspect this witch had more control over these children than what people want to believe. Yes, Paul probably did order the XXX hot sauce. He was trying to PLEASE his sick deranged mother.
Agree. Paul appears also severely underweight and childlike.
"he was abused as well lol" why the F do you think it's funny that Paul was abused?? What the effing helll is wrong with your head that you think abuse is funny??
Since the ex returned an left Timmothy with this monster after a court order said only supervised visitation then he should face charges too. If he couldnt handle him then turn him over to state of Oklahoma.
Where is the father?
You can see how her other son that supposedly helped her, paul, was very very scared of his mother. You know something happened to him also
Paul was her first "victim'. He participated but I see a pattern there.
I think Paul is also culpable for this crime. He's old enough to know right from wrong and one can't do these type of things to somebody else without getting some type of satisfaction from it. I would like to know where were all the other adults in these kids life while this was going on.
I think that if you're being abused when a new victim comes in, you feel a relief it's no longer you even though you know it is wrong. Paul should have "gotten rid" of her. All the kids would still be alive and better off. He probably wouldn't even gotten too long a prison sentence, if any.
Yes, that is where the stockholm syndrome comes in. He wanted to please his abuser at all costs. His body language spoke volumes. I wanted to hate him when he began testifying. Once questioning got underway I felt sympathy for him.
From my understanding these kids didn't live with her full time so it wasn't like there was years of grooming to become their mom's henchman. When kids are home schooled these types of crimes can fly under the radar.
This one was very difficult for me. I have a 15 year old severely disabled child. He's such an angelic gentle soul and I couldn't imagine hurting him like this. Any child doesn't deserve this life but knowing he was mentally impaired makes it worse 😢
I agree… my 15 year old son isn’t severely disabled but was diagnosed at 3 with Autism and is such a bright and innocent boy. Poor Timothy… they don’t even have photos of him…. I’ll never understand how someone could hurt any sweet child let alone their very own…
Even if he was acting out it would be fully understandable on his part.
I worked with people with special needs. They weren’t always perfect, none of us humans are. That’s why we help each other when we fall short and need help. I would never want to hurt any of my clients. Even when I was assaulted we worked as a team to get her help. I didn’t even think to hurt her back back. She may have been an adult but she had a child’s understanding.
She was a graduate of law school with high honors, and worked as a law clerk, but she was a vicious monster. What she did to that poor child she deserves to be put away forever.
To torture anyone is foul. To torture a disabled child is incomprehensible. This is pure evil.
Bless this beautiful boys soul. May his next life be peaceful and full of love and kindness. God bless his soul.
This thing is a true sadist, she would have made a perfect guard at Dachau concentration camp. The defense attorney is making me sick. This thing knew her elder son had severe mental issues and used that against him to enlist him in the torture and murder of Timothy.
I also in my heart believe why the Oklahoma courts took away her custody of children was because of sexual abuse. Who knows what Paul has been through. He is also very thin. I suspect she was withholding food from all in the house except for her fat A....
I commented saying she gave me Irma Grese vibes
@@Cazza1206 that hairdo, and I agree with you about Irma vibes
@@5GreenAcres I'm watching her testify right now, she is wicked.
@@deborah3912 I think wicked evil to the bone is more accurate. I can't stand one teeny drop of tobasco sauce let alone that triple X stuff. There are restaurants that make you sign a liability waver if you request it for dipping sauce for your wings.
I took care of a preteen boy for a woman who was complaining about his behaviour , how she wasnt managing him . Id observed her food regime in her home , An evening meal of a slice of luncheon meat , a stick of cheese and some fruit juice and a cracker , when she asked me to care for him, she warned of how he was behaviour wise. In the 3 weeks in our home , he ate , and ate well , He never misbehaved once , He got what i gave my family , it was the issue at heart , He was always hungry at home , but not at my home , God Bless him , He eventually grew up , 6feet tall, well grown and a fisherman , loved him , i did .❤
God bless you! You have a kind heart ❤
I've been watching the cross examination of this thing, called a human. I am blown away at how little self-awareness she has. She says her memory of all incriminating things is lost, supposedly due to PTSD (she can't remember the bad things she did for over six months or any of the hundreds of incriminating text messages she sent, which is not how PTSD works) but can suddenly remember when she needs to put all the blame on her older son, who participated in the torture of this child at her bidding-saying that it was his idea to put the hot sauce on Timothy's private parts-for example. She needs to be in prison and never see the light of day. This story is beyond disgusting.
There's a lot of bad mothers out there. Amen. I grew up in the 80s and 90s during the Murphy Brown era and all anyone wanted to hear about was sainted single mothers. Well, my single dad did the best he could on his own after my mom walked away. He didn’t have any support and people just gloss that over. Moms are not always good. Amen.
Single mothers have never been seen as "saintly" and were openly opposed by the majority. It's only recently that the stigma of being unmarried and pregnant has been lifted. No sex has a monopoly on being awful.
Im glad your dad was a good parent, im sure he's proud of you.
Exactly, there are horribIe parents, period. I raised my sons mostIy myseIf and l wasn't & will never be a perfect parent but I Ioved my chiIdren and they never went hungry. They aIways had a safe pIace to Iive and aIways wiII.
I'm still cIose to them both and would give my Iife for theirs. She's no mother, she's a monster.
What about bad fathers? No one ever mentions them. We blame women for everything.
I want to cry reading these lines. I’m a mother , I’m not the best, I do love my child so much , I cannot imagine abandoning her, she saved me when I didn’t have a reason to live. It hurts me to hear what some moms do. I’m not judging them because I make mistakes daily while raising my child , I just don’t understand how can a mother be so evil
I want this woman to rot in prison in the worst way imaginable. The thought of any of this is so heartbreaking and i cant even begin to comprehend his torture.
This is unbelievably horrible!! When I tried to watch some of the trial yesterday, my husband got so upset I had to turn it off! I'm the resident murderphile. So, I don't blame him. This should never happen to anyone much less a special needs child! 😡
She blames her insomnia so my question how was she able to function in the justice system working as a clerk for a judge without any issues .. she is an evil human being who treated her child worse than her dogs period
She said she has insomnia and minutes later, states the boy would not let them sleep. She is a monster!
5yrs for that man is sheer injustice. He should’ve gotten more than just 5yrs. As for Shanda, I don’t even have words to describe what she is. She’s ruined paul’s life too. I feel sorry those kids for having a psycho mother like her
I think he was a victim as well though..
@@aClownBaby-So? That’s no excuse.
It’s crazy that the justice system treats drug crimes worse than r@pe and abuse cases a lot of the time.
You should have live streamed this trial. It’s horrific. Watching her lie on the stand is sickening. Prosecutor is basically telling her what questions he’s going to ask after the lunch break Why? Why would he give her time to think of an answer or an excuse? She actually clerked for this court, she knows everyone. Why wasn’t just moved to a different jurisdiction?
There is no need for that. She basically played a Nazi camp with her own child and the evidence is damning. She will get the maximum possible sentence for sure.
That was only 1 question that they had to recess over because her defense attorney objected after she answered the prosecutors question with to much detail that provided information on why she lost custody of her children in Oklahoma and that opened up the chance for her to be questioned about information that defense didn't prepare for her as the defendant and state hadn't filed to use it against her in this trial. So the jury had to disregard her 1st response and in recess the defense, the state, and judge agreed for the question to be rephrased in front of the jury and she responded with a yes or no in order to not open up the line of questioning that her last response would have done.
@@megannoe2057 Well said.
Why does the courts allow people to chew gum in court it’s SO disrespectful
I have seen more than a few judges who have nipped that immediately, even with non-parties in the courtroom. It's tremendously disrespectful of the court.
The judge did make her spit it out after he noticed
@@corrinabanks3567 yes I noticed that later on. Good on the judge 👏
i wish this trial was live streamed the full days. People need to know what this poor child endured and what an evil person his mum is. He had nobody who cared when he was alive but he has plenty now, knowing what he went through. If only the brother cared and told someone about it.
It is being live-streamed.
It's streamed on "13 on your side" channel. She's currently being cross examined
Yes 💔
How could you in good conscience represent and defend people for these types of heinous crimes? I couldn't do it.
The law states everyone, even despicable mothers like Shanda, get legal representation just like everyone else. It's the law.
He’s defending the constitution.
I understand that everyone has the right to a defense, but not everyone deserves it. In her case, aII she did was seaI her fate. She shouId never, ever see the Iight of freedom again.
The thought of her being a Iawyer is terrifying. Or a judge in charge of anyone's fate. 😳
Thank God this man was willing to take this awful case, im sure he didn't want to
When you think you wouldn’t ever hear anything so horrible…here you go. Horrible, horrific, evil and incredibly sad what happened to Timothy.
Im unable to have children. I see disgusting stuff like this and my heart hurts. People are so ungrateful and cruel. He is now with God and he is safe and pain free
I struggled through the LSAT's and Law School..graduating and passing the BAR. How the hell does someone like this graduate with honours and land a great job?
As a mother, I can not fathom how anyone could do this to their babies . 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
Me neither. I had such a powerful sense of protecting my sons, they're both grown now and Iarger than I am by a Iot and I wouId stiII give my Iife for theirs. She's no mother, she's a monster.
This guy is one of the best News anchors I've seen,emotions,like disgust,disbelief and anger are 100% real
9 hours in ice? I have no words for my emotions in this case. It’s just stunning. I never heard of this one until today. It’s unreal. How did he survive those 9 hours? Obviously, he didn’t but 9 hours?
No one seems to be talking about the failures of services who should have been monitoring this vulnerable child.
Every single vulnerable child should be routinely visited to ensure they're happy, healthy and thriving. Any child being "home schooled" should be monitored in the same way, because this is one of the most common methods that abusers use to isolate their victim and hide their crimes.
The agencies who did nothing to safeguard this child should be on trial too.
Unfortunatley this happens to millions of children, it's just not publicized. But it's good that some are publized to keep people aware that this evil exist in the world.
I personally know a woman who only likes boys, she had 3 boys and is a mother in law from hell to her daughters in law. Her youngest son secretly got married and they were living with her, they had a son and the woman was so overjoyed. Then her DIL got pregnant with a girl and she did everything until she broke up the son's marriage. The son or her grandson could not see the baby for years. Finally the grandson grew up and went to look for his mother. There are so many evil mothers out there.
Theres not many like this.. or at this level.. starved for months.. but not just starved, abused punished, made eat bread soaked in hot sauce, chained, 9 hour cold bathes, clean the garage with no clothes below the waist... torture. This is the worst I have heard...
She may be on the spectrum with no emotion and therefore has no emotions
This mom is a monster, void of caring. She hated her son, and seemingly enjoyed his pain. I have never heard worse
In the direction examination, her attorney asked if she was sad, scared, etc. She replied, " absolutely"! Body language she was shaking her head NO! 😢
She's toast.
Hannah Payne jury was what? 90 minutes.
I give Shanda's jury an hour of deliberation when the time comes.
Only if, they take a 59 minute lunch break too.
15 years old and only 60 pounds 😢 wtf man this is almost too much to watch I think I'm done
For me, and this is personal......this is all about a "depraved heart", not a "sick mind." This kind of evil arises from an evil heart FIRST....and then that evil is activated by the mind. She is the definition of: "serving the father of lies"....and some of us know who "he" is. And I agree...she is a sadist. Someone who drives pleasure from inflicting pain and humiliation on another human being.
I wonder if she ever loved him. How were his early years, did she hurt him when he was a baby? Did he ever have a happy moment, did he ever smile 😢 . I don’t understand why she tortured him like this
This is what a malignant Narcissist is ,its a personality disorder and these people are Sociopaths and psychopaths. They have no human empathy , or feel for others and have no ability to love they don't know what that is. They literally don't have the ability. Its a disconnect in the hard wiring of the brain. Not an excuse but an explanation. They are still at fault and their actions are evil . And need to be punished for. Slot of people don't understand people like this. I do, because I grew up with two in my family. And they have caused great damage. One person ended up dead. (By their own hands) ,but the chaos and dysfunction they cause destroys slot of people. And I'm still living with the aftermath of growing up in that environment.
Ive been an avid trial observer years. This is thee absolute worst yet. Her blaming this poir child, snd her eldest son makes me want to screaam. Shes a very dangerous deadly snake.
I am infuriated watching her.
That poor beautiful sweetheart😔…. May Timothy be resting peacefully in the arms of Jesus and may the evil woman who tortured him get the karma she deserves and may the prison ladies serve up some justice day after day after day🤍🩵🕊️
Part of being an adult with a disability in this country is seeing a case of child abuse/torture/murder and knowing instantly that that child was also disabled. Judges and juries often let these parents off with a slap on the wrist, sometimes even calling murders like this "mercy killings" and expressing sympathy for the parent from the bench. People who seem shocked by these crimes have no idea how horrible society is to disabled children.
These people do not represent your average homeschooled family at all. Also children are tortured every day and still show up at school and pretend everything is fine. The level of cruelty in this case is unfathomable
Why these people aren’t locked away for life, I’ll never understand…😢
She is testifying right now blaming her older son and the fact she cant remember because of black outs. Luckily the judge isn't allowing her to self diagnose her problems. Paul only came to her a year before Timothy's death and came with a bag of medications for his mental health issues that she didn't refill because she didn't have time to take him to the dr. Same with Timothy... She said the hot sauce was pauls idea so she ordered reaper sauce because he liked hot sauce as akid and when she was pregnant so regular hot sauce wouldn't do...She is throwing her older son, who has reactive attachment disorder and who just wanted her approval, son under the bus not saying he's innocent but he wouldn't have been involved if she hadn't had wanted him to... I cant imagine how he feels being sent away from his father and now being betrayed by his "mom". Same as Timothy before his death. This is frustrating to watch. The woman is just horrible.
Thanks so much, Vinnie, for helping shine a light on this horror. I just can't imagine hurting a kid - they are all just so adorable and precious 😢😢😢
I am a mother of a highly impacted child on the autistic spectrum, that is Timothy’s diagnosis (with motor and speech disability). I absolutely cannot imagine hurting any child, much less these amazing babies. I feel sick to my stomach.
I would never presume how anyone else is feeling, but if anyone herein is an advocate, I’d love to call upon anyone and see what could possibly be done to prevent this. The youngest person to be a professor at Cambridge didn’t have the ability to speak (Jason Arday) until age 11!!! He became a professor at age 18. What worldly impact would he have had sans love and support???? So upset!!!!!
Pure evil at its finest. This is heartbreaking, and I hope they both get what's due.
I call bs on the "patterns of abuse!" I was severely abused as a child by an alcoholic, drug head parent! I became a nusre and raised 4 wonderful children who now claim they had a great childhood and say I was a wonderful mother! Once you are out of an abusive situation it's up to YOU to choose your path in life! Being put through that was utterly horrific, but it doesn't mean I have to let that define who I am as an adult or how I treated my children.
He was a minor, not an adult.
@@mablekay8145 who was a minor?
May this woman never know a moment of peace.
So thankful for brining up the difference between child neglect and torture.
This is a case of sadism.
This woman is a monster. I do believe that families need more support; but you can hear the resentment, the raw anger in her messages. She had an urge to control and punish that reaches the level of evil. This must not be tolerated. This must be resoundingly decried, reviled. This was a young man who had absolutely no power, no way to advocate for himself. He was already battling disability, but to be starved, tormented and tortured by the person or people upon who you must rely for your every need, for the crime of eating. Disgusting. Her other son however, could have stood up to her and didn’t. He is complicit.
Her son was 15 years old and she didn’t have a single photo of him?? 😢
This makes me so so furious I cant even describe the level of depravity. They both should get life in prison with little food and icy bath.
Yeah you just say that for attention.
How sad to hear there is no photo of Tim. That really hit hard… she’s beyond a monster. Rest with angels Tim❤
I'm watching trial today. She is on the stand...depraved, vile excuse for a mother. She murdered one child and is throwing another under the bus for it. She makes me sick.
This makes me so angry and sick to my stomach I have two sons with autism how disgusting and evil can you get to torture your own children. This 15 year old boy was 69 pounds when he died and she said on the stand it just runs in my family we all are a very skinny family then the prosecution shows her the photos of her dead son at 69 pounds and she couldn't handle that she started throwing up. This women needs to get food taken away in jail to see how it feels make her lay in bed with ice this women was so obsessed with torturing this poor child while she's at work sending messages repeatedly what's he doing what's he eating I know he snuck food make him run up there stairs make him take am ice bath make him sleep in the garage with his clothes off I don't even know how she worked with all the time she spent texting about what is her son up too.
Ok. So here’s a thought… she was only able to have supervised visits per Oklahoma DHS. Yet the father gave the child back to the mother that moved to Michigan. And the father ended up en Florida. This should become a Federal case charging the father with endangering the child by surrendering the child to a parent that’s only supposed to have supervised visits. He should be held accountable too.
Or if the child was a ward of Oklahoma and the father disregarded the Oklahoma court rulings then Oklahoma should be able to extradite him back and press charges. There’s no accountability on his part
The court allowed it.
I've always thought it the strangest thing to say a child is "stealing" food. Even if they were told not to have it now, it's just a strange word to use - stealing - about necessary household items - especially considering a parent has a duty to provide them 🤷🏻♀️
Thank you Vinnie; I love your passion for what's right and honest... You ask where this comes from, it comes from the pit of hell - for only a demonic individual could be okay with treating anyone like this... My goodness, the poor child couldn't even get a reprieve from the abuse through sleep because she did not want him to be "too comfortable"!!!
He’s father of the year compared to that evil psycho! That’s okay, her text messages with the older brother don’t lie regardless what she’s saying on the stand!
Oklahoma child protective services has the answers.
"They obviously felt at some point there was a basis to at least state that her rights should have been terminated, but for whatever reason, they decided not to go forward."
“For whatever reason.”
There needs to be an investigation into exactly what that reason was.
Wish you had the full hearings of this case! It’s just bizarre how much this woman cannot seem to remember about her involvement in this torture of her own son! Very selective memory she blames on PTSD of her husband having a stroke even though she wasn’t around him when he had the stroke! Just unbelievable! Her son remembered pretty much everything & I can see how he was manipulated by his mother.
Thats so sad not even a single picture of this poor kid
Right?! I have 5 million of my teen kids and my spoiled cats!
No, no, no, Vinny..she is on the stand right now and she did nothing wrong, it was all her older son’s fault and she saw nothing wrong with the punishments that her son came up with ALL on his own!!!! 😢😢😢 WHAT??? I keep thinking after each case like this, THIS is it..THIS is the most evil…well they keep proving me wrong and I HATE IT!!!! she needs “very special” treatment WHEN SHE GOES TO PRISON!!!!!! 😡
It seems like every year a news like this comes out. It’s scary to imagine there are kids right now that could be going through abuse like this. So sickening
If you want an idea what Timothy Ferguson looked like at his death, you only need to look at photos from released prisoners from Dachau during the Holocaust. The average male prison weighed around 66 lbs. Timothy died 3 lbs heavier. He not only starved, he was dehydrated and had hypothermia from the ice baths his mom gave him in the hours before he died. The text messages between Shanda and Paul show how her torture of her own son was continuous. May Timothy be graced with the peace his mother refused to allow him.
I was watching his testimony last night. Shame on her but he is not blameless. He worked at Applebee's, he could have at anytime say to any coworkers, please help my brother call 911. And i saw he was texting his mother " can i kill him now" a few times
Imo, something is not mentally right with him and he has been diagnosed with R.A.D. and other things. He feared his mother and had anger issues. Both are guilty, but he's not charged with murder just child abuse.
@iffyangel3380 yes, That's why one of the jury question was "is he diagnosed with anything?". He has issues too.
If his mama is that screwed up, then he most likely was also abused in some way.
He has issues too but the mother created this evil environment and encouraged this behavior. If she didn't, then I doubt older bro would've treated him the way he did.
@@melistasy that's my opinion also.
My grandmother hated my dad. She used to get his brothers and sisters to turn against him too.
Paul in my opinion was terrified of his narcissistic mother
Sadly if she had not called 911 and just dumped his body somewhere may have been years, if ever, that anyone noticed. She kept him so isolated not many people knew he even existed. Also, tragicly seems as no one cared enough, no one involved in his life, included his father, to keep abreast of his situation.
Why did Tim's father send him to live with her knowing that she had a supposed history of child neglect - the courts never approved of Tim going to live with his mother - Shouldn't the father also be held accountable - I can't imagine having such hatred for a child - she never sought help,, this was worse than neglect - it was torture - I believe Paul the older brother was neglected also - he was thin and his teeth looked to be in poor condition. I hope more comes out about this whole family and her past marriage - my heart breaks for the suffering Tim endured. If you think a child might be neglected please report it.
Thank you 🙏
She has good enough working memory to be able to study as a lawyer and hold down a complex job role. I smell bull💩 with the lack of memory issue....her lawyer is really reaching there!!!!
According to her she worked 12 per day as a lawyer assisting judges. But when she steps into her home her mind is mush.
The judge needs to give her the MAX. She is evil.
My heart breaks for what that boy went through. The mother is a true evil, monster. I feel no mercy for her. May she suffer for the rest of her life.
This crime was absolutely mind blowing. The Judges sentencing was over the top phenomenal, on target, spot on and very accurate.
How horrifically tragic 😖 😞 😢 😭
She said that they could barely afford food but stashed chicken nuggets in their freezer along with other fast foods. That's about the most expensive food you can buy.
The mother is a sadist . She tortured her child and enjoyed hurting her child . Forget asking why she did this , because you will never get a straight answer . This woman has selective memory loss , pretends she does not understand questions and then starts with the fake tears . She hated the kid and tortured him to death . She should receive the maximum prison sentence in a super. Max prison .
She had the AUDACITY to film him with cameras all over the house! This child was a prisoner! And tortured ,he was her scapegoat. No matter what she would have made ANY excuse to do what she did. It didn't matter, she hated this child....
@@deirdreevangelista856 : Absolutely.
Thank you for not mentioning the other evil witches name "that woman from Florida..." 🙏👍
This woman can't claim any sort of psychiatric or neurological problems as a defence - she was working as a LAW CLERK
Love your show Vinnie. Watching from the U.K.
My son is 15. My 3 year old daughter almost weighs half as much as this poor boy did when he was killed. I just can’t even fathom not providing for my kids and keeping them from living a life of safety, health, happiness, and love. 😮💨
I heard darkness was here....
My almost 8 year old is autistic. She is 60lbs! I can't imagine what that poor guy went through. His 'mother' makes me sick.
Not even a photo of this baby 😢 it means his entire life he went unloved 😭
It is truly shocking how grotesque, evil, and inhumane this woman was to her own son.
She is not his mother. Parents are supposed to love, nurture, guide, and cherish their child, not hate, torture, misdirect, and throw them away.